Basically what the title says. People who wanted them bought them already, but now there are piles of these everywhere; in almost every LGS. I know Gorka Morka was such a failure that GW bought it them back from their retail partners in response to complaints. People are acting like this box is going to give them an uncurable disease. What gives?>boring models/factions>no hardcover rulebook>overpiced>OverproducedI've never seen people respond to apathetic to a huge "Space Marines vs X" box before. How could they screw up so catastrophically in current year? Are they stupid?
>>98417417>Are they stupid?Sort of. Some of the box contents make sense from the perspective of updating some of the units, but there are problems with a lot of them.>IntercessorsIntercessors already exist and new push fit sculpts dont make that interesting >land speeder They're a unit with relatively niche appeal and there's already a new, bigger if slightly sillier looking landspeeder that landspeeder enthusiasts (all 12 of them) probably bought already >vanguard veterans Needed an update, but literally every model having a power sword is crazy boring and the sculpts are really medicine for a veteran squad.>eradicators with heavy boltersA unit that structurally doesn't make sense, eradicators were established as a 3 man rifle unit with 1 heavy weapon, but you can't do that with bolters becsuse that would just be a 3 man heavy intercessor squad so instead you get this nonsense. 3 guys with heavy bolters also has no role that isnt filled already. They really shouldn't have picked a special weapon like plasma, grav or even volkite for this unit and maybe it would have been interesting.The whole marine half is kind of ass.
>>98417417This is going to sound like cope but it's not necessarily a bad thing to have a starter box available for a couple of years after release
>>98417784used to be the norm
>>98417417>Is this GW's biggest failure of all time?The Dominion box was worse.
Considering I see /tg/ whining about how it's a failure, I'm going to assume it's a success because you faggots are subhuman contrarian filth and every thread calling this a failure or a flop reeks of cope.
Times are changing.Buying second hand is easier than it's ever been. Why would anyone in the world buy one of those boxes instead of only the specific units or faction they want. Or just the physical rules.There's 0 reason.
>>98417417>basic starter box is actually available>OY VEY THE COMPANY IS ENDING AAAA SAVE ME MARKETMAN!!!
>>98418196It's actually not the basic starter box
>>98417417It's overpriced. People are already strapped on cash and this particular box set is going to run $250+. Newbies aren't going to spend that amount of money for plastic miniatures and veterans already have their armies.
They didn't give the marines Godwin pattern bolters
>>98417417>Is this GWs biggest failure>Pic Related enters the chat.
>>98417417Can't be. It didn't get the entire setting squatted outright, so it can't be as big a failure as WHFB 8th edition.
>>98419364What the fuck were they thinking with kruleboyz in a launch box, they're cool in a weird sort of way but the furthest thing from starter material. It's as if leviathan launched with genestealers instead of normal nids.Also the fucking 20 ugly as sin hobgoblins didn't help. >>984195358th edition was a symptom, not a cause
>>98419558Nah people like genestealers and they’re useful with the cults too. It’s actually more like bringing out a very frequently requested army (like, say, elves on dinosaurs) in a box filled with some models that haven’t sold wellNow hold on a minute…
>>98417417how does big mek dakkarig even get through quality control? doesn't look cool at all>>98419558not to mention the fact that the ork cavalry lord and yndrasta were such flopped models that they didn't get an individual release
>>98419938Hard disagree, Dakkarig fucks.
>>98418196People have been doing this same song and dance with threads for the last year or so now. It's very tiring.
>>98418196You forgot the other half of this shit too>starter set is unavailable >FUCKING GW UNDERPRODUCING TO ENCOURAGE FOMO SCALPERS ITS OVERRR
