Freakshit characters are killing Dungeons & Dragons.
>>98418044Those are a thing since BECMI tourist
>>98418044not at my table desu
>>98418044Agreed, we need more male human rangers
>>98418089>gentleman cocktiel player characters have been a thing since BECMIBeaten wife syndrome. Maybe if you helped gatekeep the hobby, it wouldn't have ended up like this.>>98418109Okay. But when you say you play 'tabletops', people now think of picrelated.
>>98418044Good.
>>98418110uh based and tradthat's how I imagine all my male human rangers
>>98418044You think 5.5 is freakshit? God you wouldn't be able to handle 3.X or 4E, or something like Pathfinder (either edition). >>98418145Good thing I don't care about what "people" think. I'm not an insecure little snowflake like (you).
>>98418044Who cares?Have you tried not playing D&Dogshit?
>>98418044>Be OP>Be a retard>Play a game designed for retards>Get mad that the other players are retardsIf you swim in a sewer, don't be surprised when there's shit everywhere. This is an unironic case of "Have you tried not playing D&D?"
>>98418145Every time I see that picture I remember the copy pasta about a group of adventurers ignoring the litch.
>>98418326>>98418335The people that shouldn't be playing D&D are the freakshit 'tumblrfolks' that use a role playing GAME as an excuse to LARP as a special snowflake.I will NOT be deracinated from my own hobby because it got infiltrated by troglodytes. The troglodytes have to go, and I should be able to stay. Cowards like you are actually worse than the freaks killing the hobby, because you won't even make a token attempt to defend it. "Not my table not my problem" type of retard, that's what you are.
>>98418044Good, D&D dying would unironically be a good thing for the entire hobby.
>>98418380Why would I make an attempt to defend something that's mediocre slop? I moved on to better games ages ago, and you should too.
>>98418044No, the trend of lefties wanting hipster RPGs that pander to them followed immediately by Hasbro's insistence on doing whatever it takes to maintain a stranglehold on the RPG industry is killing Dungeons & Dragons.
>>98418380Here's the uncomfortable truth. The people you're complaining about are the ones making the game now. They don't want you here. They want you to leave. You will not be missed. (Your money will be, but lets be real, most of the people here wern't actually paying for the content anyway. The type of "people" you're complaining about WILL shill out money to be abused by their corporate overlords.)
>>98418388But then OP and the tumblr types he plays with would scatter like cockroaches and infest other games. Better for them to be at least partially contained.
>>98418257OP doesn't know what those numbers and letters mean. He doesn't even know there's more than one editions of DnD. He's just doing a meme to project a fake ingroup and validate using this board to shitpost in.
>>98418491That's what Pathfinder (both 1e and 2e) exist for.
>>98418044It's ironic that in a game that is intended to provide cultural diversity that nearly everything is becoming black-adjacent.Part of it is the Zoomer culture problem where they were told, plainly, by their peers that the only authentic life experience is the life experience of a minority. It's why so many non-minority players pick things like Tiefling, so they can roleplay being a socially disadvantaged minority while at the same time having superpowers and a moral upper hand.Zero systems have solved this problem.
>>98418406If by lefties you mean 4chan when you talk about people wanting hipster garbage, then yes. You subhuman faggots are contrarians to the core, and if any other system was #1 you'd spend all day shitting on it and STILL not play or run any games.>>98418513Probably. >>98418523NTA but my issues with PF2e are mostly how it's structured. THe classes get little to nothing baseline; all their abilities come from class feats. And that makes me ask: Why not just go classless at that point? It would make the game infnitely better IMO, though the fact it's such a bitch to homebrew for doesn't make me want to run or play it. Seriously, that's a huge hurdle for me, if I don't want to use the core options I have to make new ancestries, new ancestry feats, new classes, new class feats, new deities, new deity spell lists and what have you, new items, I have to do so much work that I might as well make my own TTRPG and since I've already done that what use do I have for PF2e?
>>98418380You can tell this guy doesn't play games because he thinks what imaginary people elsewhere in the world do affects his own table. As if this is a video game and he'll ever even know these people exist.Hell, he still says "tumblr" like it's 2015 and that site hasn't died and been reborn 6 times since then. The boogeymen he's worried about left that place for twitter before twitter stopped being twitter. To find pics like the one he posted you have to dig through peoples art blogs and bluesky feeds for private pictures they posted of their party that they're super proud of. I remember doing that on deviantart 15 fucking years ago. I was shitty at drawing then too.OP what are we even doing now? Can you get some new shitpost material or something? This one has been done to death.
>>98418380>The people that shouldn't be playing D&D are the freakshit 'tumblrfolks' that use a role playing GAME as an excuse to LARP as a special snowflake....Where do you think you are?
I am incredibly glad the SJWs I told to go write games if they're so upset started doing this.It's a shame the right wing SJWs seem incapable of performing the same task no matter how many times I tell them to.
>>98418532>It's why so many non-minority players pick things like TieflingGoddamn that's some projection. Maybe (you) do that shit, if I'm playing a Tiefling it's because I want the abilities they grant. Same reason I'd play any species, unless I'd rather do it for flavor reasons. Like I've got a Silver Dragonborn who's a Paladin of Bahamut I play, that's for the flavor, dragonborn in 2024 suck ass mechanically but I've been wanting to play this concept and the campaign I'm in is a good fit for it since it's dragon-adjacent. Also, you just described people who play male human fighters and what they want. They want to be the underdog with no special powers but also somehow be the main character who wins every fight with MUH GRIT and MUH WITS while the players themselves have neither and are retarded pussies.
>>98418559>It's a shame the right wing SJWs seem incapable of performing the same task no matter how many times I tell them to.They're sheep, that's why they love authoritarians; They are incapable of independent thought.
>>98418544>and if any other system was #1 you'd spend all day shitting on it and STILL not play or run any games.It's like when we get those regular threads bitching about critical roll and all I think is "people are still watching them? I thought Advantris were the new popular ones. They're actually funny." and I remember groups that were around years ago that people here used to bitch about, but the new shitposters never heard of them. Like does anyone remember The Adventure Zone? I remember seeing threads about how that was ruining DnD. No one fucking remembers them.
>>98418559That's because they lack creativity and the few times they've tried they always drop the ball mechanically. Like look at Racial Holy War. That game literally does not function, it lacks the rules needed to run or play the game properly, and ven if it HAD them it fails at its premise of being a white supremacist TTRPG because IT IS OBJECTIVELY BETTER TO PLAY A NON-WHITE MECHANICALLY.Seriously, open whatever "non-pozzed" document editor you use, learn how the math of ttrpgs works, and write your own shit if you're so bothered.
>>98418559well they never played games because their parents said DnD was satanic and they never got over it.
>>98418577I find watching TTRPG streams boring and in all honestly, CR works better as an animated show IMO. Like is it high art, no, but I at least enjoyed Vox Machina and Mighty Nein as animated shows more than I did when I tried to watch campaign 1 via VOD on youtube.
>>98418044Stop lying newfag. 1993 The Complete Book of Humanoids had aarakocra, alaghi, beastman, bugbear, bullywug, centaur, fremlin, giant-kin (firbolg), giant-kin (voadkyn), gnoll, gnoll (flind), goblin, hobgoblin, kobold, lizard man, minotaur, mongrelman, ogre, half-ogre, orc, half-orc, pixie, satyr, saurial, swanmay, and wemic. And it was only one book.
>>98418377What copypasta? Post it
>>98418586Exactly. They bore the hell out of me. I've always had the theory that you need to be an entertainer to make DnD entertaining to an audience and it forces them to play differently, so of course they're not an example of a real game. But we'll always have people here thinking whatever is popular to watch is ruining the hobby. But it has been years and now there's kids who clearly weren't around for the last thing ruining the hobby complaining about a current thing. I've been here too long.
>>98418145I don't play half-breeds or such. However, I will start adding the freakiest half-breed gay shit in my rotation on the off chance I piss off fuckers like you. Seethe and preferably cry about it on open forums or make a 30 minute video about it so I know its working you fucking waste of cum.
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>>98418593There were articles all the way back in the 70s in Dragon magazine for playing different kinds of races
>>98418783Oh right, I remember that one
when everyone's special, no one is.
>>98418944Or they are. Just ask DC and Marvel who each have like thousands of characters and people still enjoy them. Turns out it doesn't matter if basically everyone is "special"
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>>98418257>God you wouldn't be able to handle 3.X or 4E,is this really where we're at, now....?>3.Xremember how they had that whole level adjustment system in place so you couldn't just play a Tiefling or Aasimar at level 1? let alone some nonsense like putting Drow right there in the PHB.and that's still not filter-y enough: it was better in TRVE D&D when rolling the stats you *needed* for an elf was significant. >4E lol who cares.
>>98418960there's a reason the writers find ways to keep the characters separate, or at least nerf their powers (which always feels tedious)imagine if every single Batman story was a World's Finest.
>>98418963>TRVE D&DNever existed, everyone and their mother started houseruling away those requirements pretty much from day 1.
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>>98418044Go to bed, Mark.
>>98418380>Not my table not my problem...but that's literally true? you're in charge at your table>>98418963>remember how they had that whole level adjustment system in place so you couldn't just play a Tiefling or Aasimar at level 1? let alone some nonsense like putting Drow right there in the PHB.You don't know about lesser tief/aasimar that were LA +0? Or the furry people in OA?Confirmed for nogames
>>98418944>Syndrome fallacyNo, if everyone is special, everyone is special.>>98418963see >>98418593 >>98419478The argument isn't "you can play these things at level 1" (which, as you've been shown, isn't even true) it's "They've been around longer than you have and you don't know what you're on about", and I'm right.>lol who caresSo you admit you're wrong? good to know.
>>98418044WotC is the one killing Dungeons and Dragons. Freakshit doesn't even make the top 10 issues with the game.
>>98419607i do not think that you are correct.
>a tiny group of player characters are ruining things for me
>>98419816>without featsThat's the part I'm most skeptical about. I've met players who didn't even know feats were optional in 5e because they've read the book nones of times, learned to play by osmosis, and pick their level up choices from an app. I've never once met anyone who actually plays without feats. I've met one person who said if he ever ran a game again, he wouldn't allow them, but he has not run D&D since then to prove it.
>>98418044As someone who plays actual tabletop games and not 5e I will say that "Freakshit" starts to be more appealing when they actually add character options instead of just LARP>>98419816So are freakshit players actually unique then? Kek. It's as if all the people saying that punks weren't punk rock but then they look at literal state propaganda aka joe rogan.
>>98418380>I will NOT be deracinated from my own hobby because it got infiltrated by troglodytesThen you'd better get a gun and get out there and start using it, because nothing short of that is getting rid of us. This is our space now, and you aren't welcome here any more.
>>98419816I mean, obviously. Despite the memes, human fighter will never be dethroned as the most common pick for most casual players and nothing will make elves and half elves not be the most popular races other than humans, followed by dwarves with the short races as dead last in popularity.The number of people with weird race and classes combinations will always statistically very small, even if they are usually louder than the casual player who plays an Aragorn knock off. They are just easy to make fun off and rage bait with.
>>98418089>but what about...No, he is 100% correct. >But the book says...Up to DM discretion and no party wanted to deal with a freak walking around when an elf and dwarf was oddball to begin with.
>>98418380>>98420008Neither of you two seem genuine. Try acting like adults rather than provoking more insane replies.
>>98419816I refuse to believe this. The only way its true is if it's some super casual who happened to get dragged along to a D&D game or its somebody who gives zero shits about the game and just murder hobos everything.
>>98420008Thats the funny thing, you parasites always eat your own. You created your own hell and you can live in it now that you kicked people out who actually knew what they are doing.
>>98419885This. The rest of it seems plausible and in many ways is hilarious given how much effort pushing various forms of irl diversity mapped over fantastical realms is given, but the lack of feats is some truly bizarre stuff. I've never even heard of it being played that way let alone the majority of cases. The amount of 3.5 bloat around splatbooks and character builds and the feats involved is so counter to this statement it really needs the data to back it up.
>>98418044Freakshit people are killing it, dude
>>98420059the first poster seems fine and sincere. IRL maybe he's horrid, some table-flipping autist.20 years ago i'd say>yeah, what a nuisance.but now i wish we still had old-fashioned, anal nerds like that. he IS the adult in the room, anon.
>>98420063I don't know, I don't play DnD but I've found mostly players I play with in person prefer to play humans/elves while people I've only played with online prefer different races. It's not even a political thing, the only person I know irl who likes to play more absurd raves is a right-wing Christian. It's just his favorite videogames growing were Pokemon, Digimon, Pikmin, and World of Warcraft where he'd usually play a Tauren Hunter and Druid. So he likes either being able to turn into an animal or keep as a pet. Dude has 0 interest in human conflicts and only really locks in if you mention ecology.Honestly the divide is less about race and more about mechanics. People who love videogames seem to prefer abilities, large amounts of combat, and dislike perma-death. While people who prefer books and movies seem be more in favor to high lethality and wits-based problem solving.The unfortunate compromise seems to be Savage Worlds
>>98420125That wasn't the reaction pic I meant to post
>>98420063Do you genuinely think every table out there is made of just the most weird and convoluted characters possible?Most people play with what's familiar without having to do too much work they wouldn't usually do. Someone who doesn't want to think about being a dragon won't play a dragonborn, same reason they won't play as some tiny green goblin and this is without going for the truly weird options. Hell, Half-something will almost always be preferable to playing another race, you get the benefits and some cool parts of the other race, while still remaining a relatable human.
>>98418380The majority of leftoids I play with are power gamers, I find the more larpy people to be kinda chuddy
Why does /tg/ have this thread every week?
>>98420141>Do you genuinely think every table out there is made of just the most weird and convoluted characters possible?Yes actually because that has been my experience. I thought it was just a local thing after playing at five different tables but when I tried online games it was the same freakshit with people not knowing how to play.
>>98420160Some anon really wants freakshit to become a real word everyone uses.
Honestly, the only real gripe I have is how much more modern the parrot and the blue guy's outfits look compared to everybody else. What's up with that? They doing a time travel campaign?
>>98418044Hasn't this been a thing since Lord of the Rings?
>>98419777Doesn't matter, facts don't care about your feelings.
You know what? What most of you faggots call "freakshit" doesn't go far enough. There ought to be more of the really weird races like flumphs, modrons, ettercaps... hell, even more bullywugs and other frog people would be better than just yet another conventionally attractive human with weird skin, horns or some animal bits.
>>98418380If you want people to take your side then maybe you should try to stop being a bigger faggot than the actual homosexuals.
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>>98420350I played a Bhuka once.
>>98420215I don't see a purple demon, red scaly half dragon and an albino mushroom man.
>>98420350Honestly this is what pisses me off the most about D&D. It's doing this half measure of kitchen sink where its just star trek style aliens instead of embracing the truly absurd.
>>98420350>>98420425Not even ONE singing Diamond...
>>98418565>Same reason I'd play any species,Great job identifying yourself as a WotC shill.