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>>98425184>Favorite creature with 10 or more power?>tqIts been Dreadnought since Mirage was released. Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger and the original Emrakul are up there.
SEXO SEXO SEXO WITH WITCH SEXOOOOOO
>>98425046I really like the old fantasy book frames. But there's not really any cards in the set I'm excited to build around.
>>98425344The cards look so fucking ass thematically. Same characters over and over.THEN FUCKING FOREST ANIMALS. Not even with some kind of fantasy coating on it. Literally>bear>bear (bigger)>bear (biggest)
>>98425243The art of this card kind of annoys me because as far as I understand, this is the only card depicting Taysir of Rabiah.You would think that such important character for early MTG lore would get at least few cards dedicated to him but no, WoTC is stubbornly avoid it like fire.
>>98425498It’s literally the text from the single book that this set is based on. It’s a ninety year old tiny paperback that’s the bedrock for ALL fantasy, you can take a couple hours and read through it.
The text in question"Tell me what you want done, and I will try it, if I have to walk from here to the East of East and fight the wild Were-worms in the Last Desert. Their are 6 mana creatures that scale with the number of mountains you control. I don't know how to control a mountain but trust me on this one old chap."
Daily reminder that kikes hate White.
>>98425184>They're STILL power creeping green french vanillasHow long until G for a 20/20 uncounterable haste trampler?
>>98425557POTENTIAL MAN
at the end of the day, what's the actual difference between green and white
>>98425988I apologise for nitpicking your grammar, but English language doesn't capitalise nous except as proper names and at the beginning of a sentence.
>>98426191white has better removal, green has better ramp
TQ7yo me used to bully the fuck out of everyone at elementary school with this bad boyNever got to cast it with Morph because I didn't understand what that meant, and at some point I also edited the set symbol with a gold sharpie because there's no way this level of power could've belonged to a measly uncommon
Whats the reasoning behind jace trying to undo phyraxean invasion when phyraxean invasion was absolute nothing burger? He did not lose spark, nor anybody relevant died. Hes like the most powerful being in the universe, why cant he do something productive instead? Like removal of universes beyond?
>>98426191Green is big but few, white is small but many
>>98426468>Whats the reasoning behind jace trying to undo phyraxean invasion when phyraxean invasion was absolute nothing burger?Correction: The creation of the Omenpaths universally benefited every plane in the multiverse.Attempting to undo a cosmic-scale infrastructure project is unequivocally evil.
>>98426468The grip of the snekussy is too strong.
>>98426468>each opponent>each opponent
>>98426468Me on the bottom right.
>>984265343
>>98426504Nice b8.
>>98426529how else could you write the first one
>>98426552do a thing draw a card
>>98426552>how else could you write the first oneI wouldn't. It's stupid.
Star Trek does not fit M;TG at all in terms of aesthetics and gameplay>>98425184 Is this for reals ?!?
>>98426591kirk absolutely should have an ability along the lines of "[t], tap an untapped nonhuman creature you control: create a 1/1 human mutant creature token"
>>98426591Holy fuck the art is unironically worse than in marvel. Who the fuck is even willing to play or collect these.
>>98426591the borg do but that's about it
>>98426655The desingn docs were likeKhan: cumberlach staring lofelessly at the player, who cares they just want sheoldred reprint lmaoKirk: just screenshot from a movie lmaoOo: just a clueless asian lady at some random scifi console, asians cant drive car so just make them to drive a spaceshipPicard, spock, trelane: we are out of ideas so just draw actors in same pose, just change angle>>they bought our shit again, next time just recruit from kindergarten
>>98426591>Whenever Picard... attacks>Picard>attacksThey had one fucking job and couldn't even manage that.
>>98426675He does get into fights on occasion, so it's not like it's something the character never did
>>98425557Representing non-white non-european cultures is erm, wrong and racist, actually.Best I can do is a black King Arthur and turning kamigawa into a racist caricature.
>>98422037Grixis affinity, jund wildfire, tron (any).Alternatively, check the 'cord if you care about comp pauper
>>98426675It's a welcome deck starter card, for nerds tha thave never touched card games before
>>98426468in the upcoming series if it tells this story arc is going to end in a quote like>we need to go universes.. beyondbefore fading to blackmark nosewater my words
>>98426468His gorgon gf pegged him during the war and he tried his hardest to remove that memory from everyone's mind
>>98426468Did he even know anyone that died?
>random guy is legendaryI HATE COMMANDERI HATE COMMANDERI HATE COMMANDER
>>98426954Is that two gay halflings and their adopted black son
>>98426883>He wanted to feel it againNasty
>>98426954Then you hate Mtg
>>98426954they already said that this is a misprint, the tokens are also supposed to be black
>>98426954That's Hob, Bitno, and Terry
>>98427111Cummander will never MTG doesn't matter if you fags try to turn real Magic into it.
Which way white man?
Why don’t we just make a roving gang of 20+ fa/tg/uys and use strategic concessions to rig tournaments and proselytize our anti-UB message
>>98427583Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong door, the leather club's two blocks down.
What are the odds this mf gets rebanned on the 10th? I am so tired of losing to affinity at modern night
>>98427609zero chance. the pounding on boros energy will continue until moral improves.
>>98427535As far away from card games as i can possibly get. Lmao.
>>98427609virtually zero, wrath of the skies completely rapes the traditional affinity plan, if they do decide to do something about the deck, it's going to be banning weapons manufacturing
I wasn't around when they came out, what do I think of Energy counters as a mechanic?
i hate energy counters on principle so fuck you
I like energy counters
I have no feelings about energy counters
>>98427123>Terrymore like Tyrone
I both love and hate energy counters
>>98426954insane ramp card, hardcasting ulamog on turn 3 in pioneer
fuck you people I wanted to get a discussion going and was genuinely curiouskeep your shit thread
>>98427747>>98428028energy dominated standard when it released and it dominates modern after it got more support, it's a parasitic mechanic that gets better the more energy cards you run, there's nothing interesting or appealing about it on a game design level
>>98426191Green ramps and white removes.
I want to go back to Kaladesh...
>>98428079You and nobody
>>98427535>brushed artUnfortunate, DS brushed art sleeves are ass.
>>98426468His body was forcefully transitioned and he has to maintain illusions to look normal.
>>98428028Bye nigga no one cares dumbass
>>98428079Uhhh do you mean Avishkar?
I like colorless ponies
>>98427747>>98428028It's s a pretty toxic parasitic design since it takes over any deck you include it in not to mention most the best energy cards are effects that are generically good and generating energy is just an additional bonus ontop so it's not even particularly interesting to build with since most energy decks will always use the same handful of cards
VigilanceStoriedAs long as you have an enduring story, creatures can't attack you unless their controller pays {1} for each of those creatures.
why are so many cards in this set just "adjective animal"
This thing was kind of neat in standard but was totally overshadowed by marvel and now its a shitty Tifa i guess.
>>98428155a lot of them are just poached from random lines in the book>I should say there were little bears, large bears, ordinary bears, and gigantic big bears, all dancing outside from dark to nearly dawn
>>98428155Creative bankruptcy
>>98428116A 4/2 flyer in draft is stupid for 1b
>>98428154interesting card for MWI against dredge, it's not hard to get storied when your deck is full of moxen
Your Blue bear
>>98428196Haha is the the first black elf theyve done?
>>98428196black elves gets all the elf bitches. timmyelfs begone
>>98428216its a bard so he's obviously gay
>>98428166How many fucking things do I have to track in this fucking game??? Monarch, day/night, intitiative, poison counters, rad counters, now some fucking enduring story???
>>98428224
>>98428224You forgot poison, energy, city blessing and a few more.
>>98428224>>98428242Don't forget commander staple, experience counters!
>>98428249And dont forget who the starting player was!
>>98428155that's the best way to name cards thothe designs sucking logs of dookie and not being fun is a separate problem
>mfw they are hiding the good hobbit card reveals for later
>>98427612>>98427707Kappa Cannoneer is more likely to get banned than Mox Opal
>>98428079We went back just a couple years ago. Don't be greedy.
yep, im thinking standard is saved
>>98428283That one's too complicated for paper, clearly. Never mind PT going to game 5 because player going first won every game.
>>98428419Jeskai do nothing vs badgermole for the next two years
>>98428160I generally hate rotating formats so I haven't played much Standard, but the Gruul energy "infectless infect" deck with this guy was so fun I had to play it. Had some fun games in early Pioneer with it too.
>>98428542So many neat pauper cards in this set 'm almost considering making this the first UB set I attend a few drafts forAlmost
>>98428471Aw damn it man i read the date on the card i cant believe that was ten years ago
>>98428567Just be a hobo like me and scalp/gather up the bulk/free cards/draft chaff left over near the trash. I’ve only opened like 3 Bloomburrow packs total, but have a bunch of commons and uncommons from the trash pile from people who did buy plenty of packs that just left them there.
>>98428796Based and trashpilled skavenmaxxer
>>98428116>>98428183Anon...
>>98428941>standard cards powercreeping modern cards nowneed to hit the reset button
>>98428983too late bozo this is your magic now.
I feel things like energy counters are redundant in a game with mana system
>>98429114but it's Mana 2: No Limitations. it's more destructive than redundant
Are we expecting any MtG Gencon reveals?
>>98429114I'm not a fan, especially since it's totally uninteractable to an even greater extent than poison counters, but my buddy loves it so I am obligated to tolerate it.
>>98428983Bone picker is from Amonkhet- read the fucking card and realize that double masters was a reprint set.Between whether bone picker as a 4 mana 3/2 that becomes a 1 mana 3/2, or the bats that are a 5 mana 4/2 that becomes a 2 mana 4/2, the difference isn’t power creep. Actually technically I’d argue that the new version is weaker than the old one because high power on a deathtouch creature is worth less since any other creature dies just the same. I’d gladly give up the extra point of power to make it cost one mana less- hell, if it was three generic for 2/2 flying deathtouch that was free if something died, then that would be even better.
>>98428154why the fuckdo they keep adding dumb shit that has to be tracked for the gamefor no reason
>>98428100sad ponies
>>98426468Because the story director is being told to make more hype moments and aura. This has been Magic's story for over 20 years now where it's nothing but a means to set up whatever nostalgiajerk set they want to do next.
>>98429392so that it can have some """cool""" graphic effect on arena
>>98428028It's not a very good mechanic, doesn't make for interesting deckbuilding or moment-to-moment gameplayt. wasn't around when they came about but >>98428119 sounds like he knows what's up
>>98429231Deathtouch is kind of irrelevant here i mean what i said lol a 4/2 flyer for 1b is great in draft. Kills you faster than a b 3/2 flyer as well if you cast it in curve. A free 2/2 with flying and deathtouch is retarded you are retarded.
>>98429392It doesn't need to be tracked for the whole game, it's just while he's in play - unless you mean having satisfied the having an enduring story thing, but that's like city's blessing where you just need to note that it's happened and then it's switched on for the rest of the game.
>>98428100I'm tired.Cards should not be colorless unless there is a solid flavor reason for it (Artifacts, Eldrazi, Ugin related cards, etc...). The bird is shit and these are shit. I don't like the other earlier ones either before you bring up shit from other sets made after Magic went to shit.
>>98429605Sure, it might beat a 3/2 in limited, but limited isn’t the issue when you’re talking about power creep in ‘modern’ sets. And like I said, I’d sacrifice that one extra power to cast it for one mana cheaper if I had the choice.
>>98429672Meant for >>98429605
>>98429678no, I'm not sure it was
>>98429664the real list ends at artifacts btw
>>98429664It's commander-coded.
>>98429664Do you have a real reason for this?
>>98429835why did they decide to do a collab with lego on this card?
>>98429835Im glad halflings have jews too it seemed too good to be true.
>>98429835Does he even get mentioned in The Hobbit?
>>98429874
>>98429881I would play it and you dont have weird penis fingers so that is cool!
>>98429891Not my hand, do you talk to your TV too?
why post commander cards in magic the gathering general?
Every card is a commander card now
>>98430042commander is a different game.
>>98430042
>>98430046Correct. There is no Magic the Gathering anymore.
>>98429881grima balls
>>98429470>hype moments and auraIf they wanted that they'd make Jace a swole Korean guy and have him date his sister.The winning formula has already been established but they keep dodging Ws.
If you have big man tits how come you are not as successful as her?
>>98428419Literal Jeskike sideboard card against green landfall. Nothing in White’s catalog of the past 30 years could save the color in Standard if it were reprinted. See also;Grand AbolisherArchangel of TithesResplendent AngelDay of Judgement Rest in PeaceAnd even a variant of Path as ErodeKikes, hate, White
>>98430140Is that jellybeannose?
vaguely relatedsomeone a few threads ago said there was going to be a warcraft UB in 2027 and that person is 100% rightdnd official youtube just posted a wow dnd crossover trailer and I highly doubt microsoft would ok it only for dnd and nothing else wotc makesI can't wait to tap my mana to cast grom hellscream!!!!!!!!!
>>98429598Anon the entire point of this chain of discussion is that Bone Picker was abysmally bad in Amonkhet and never plays out the way you think it does. It was a 4 mana play 99.99% of the time.
>>98430108They already have the siblingfucker part down with Ugin and Bolas.
>>98430227>Bone Picker was abyssally bad in AmonkhetAccording to you and nobody else?https://draftsim.com/AKR-pick-order.php
>>98430263No one likes your forced "meme," gay furfag tourist. Go back and stop shitting up the EDH OP already.
>>98430268>AKRdo we tell him?
So on monday drop not only do I have to que to order but also separate que to pay before it's bought out?
>>98430286>nooooo it doesn't count because it was actually good there the same way it was good in the original setokay retard
>>98430268man...I miss Amonkhet. It was a really on the nose plane but the art hadnt totally gone to shit yet and they did it well
>>98430269Tell it to the writers' room.
>>98430291>reality doesn't matter because I say sogrim
>>98430308Provide proof to this supposed "reality"
are you ready to consume next product?
>>98430346Will Chewie be a Bugbear?
>>98430346I hate mainstream shit nowadays... Specially Collabs
>>98430346Death to D*sney
>>98430545>Thing1 x Thing2
>>98430560Your mom x my dick
>>98428079we hear you, now kaladesh merges with zhalfir
>>98428196"Harpers might be here. I have never been in this festival before. Harpers could be here anywhere. I HATE HARPERS."
>>98430566and just like every crossover, party a is dead and party b is useless
>>98430568Zhalfir will have a Vintage staple in it and you'll buy it anyway.
>>98430602Fuck, that's actually really good. You got me.
>>98428079no moe jeet sets please
>>98430710sorry mark, not a paypiggieworking on my custom set with my friends :)
>>98426468Jace isn't "trying to undo the phyrexian invasion", you're just wrong on the outset. Jace is trying to remove the concept of evil from the multiverse.
>>98426468So this faggot has to die in Reality Fracture, right?
>>98430789But transphobia already doesn't exist in the multiverse according to WotC.
>>98428079Does not exist anymore, it is now rebranded as Akabesh or something because diversity consultants complained on the behalf of [B]lack folxxx.
>>98430789but Jace IS evil
>>98430528No. He'll be a Bugbear... but Legendary!
>>98426468Jace is Urza Junior (or attempting to be) so he needs a dramatic heel turn. And, well, here it is. Not at all built up to or alluded to, like Urza's, but the attempt was made.
>>98430346Holy shit everything is cooked!
>>98430295Haha you mean the mono red set with hazoret and deserts? Retard.>>98430227Yeah and even that set had better creatures. You are gonna be swinging bad creatures into other bad creatures most of the time and then its a good card.
>>98430954I mean, frankly, Jace and Urza are pretty much the same character arc, except for Jace we actually saw him do good (or at least attempt to do good) as an insecure nerd before becoming strong and then doing evil stuff. Urza was a villainous prick ever since he and Mishra found the mightstone and weakstone, and only avoided being the actual villain because Yawgmoth was there… until Urza spent five minutes in Phyrexia and willingly obeyed Yawgmoth like a retard.Jace may also be a retard with Reality Fracture, but at least he had a level of basic human decency to fall from.
>>98430971Cooked past burn point?
Does one ever get over feeling like losses are often outside of their control (in draft)?>one in three games is practically guaranteed mana fuck or multiple mulligans>they go first, perfect curve, gg>they drop the best bomb in set, gg>they have the exact weird dogshit card needed to blow me out 3 for 1
>>98431046of course this happens to everyone. the very best drafters on mtgo are winning around 75% of their matches, meaning 1/4 of the time something like you said happens to somebody who would win every time if it was chess. If you are a regular mortal player this effect is magnified, every other match will involve some bullshit.
>>98431092except I'm stuck in plat 4, which is extra depressing since it's the start of "real" ranked since you don't get to pips for wins. People on Arena just all seem insanely good and never make mistakes.
>>98430986Kind of exactly my point. Urza always had the lust for power and his attempts at doing good tended to come with some major caveats, so his heel turn was alarming but not out of character. With Jace he's been nothing but a sparkling superhero since very early in his characterization, and suddenly he's doing his best Doctor Doom impression with absolutely no indication of why this shift in morality occurred or any sort of foreshadowing. I'm half expecting them to Superior Spiderman it and say Tezzeret swapped brains with him.
>>98430346Star Wars in this day and age...Nobody want to play as Ray Skywalker.
>>98431046i believe that arena drafts are rigged. i seem to flood out/not draw lands twice as much as arena as i do in paper. also, my opponents in arena seem to topdeck the exact cards they need to stabilize when empty handed a large portion of the time.
I stopped playing Arena because it is obviously rigged. I won too much then was given nothing but lands multiple games in a row. I only play paper magic now and that's maybe once every few months either cube or battlebox/dandan.
>>98431286>>98431420Unlikely. 17lands autists would notice it.e.g. they found a subtle manipulation of packs in powered cube: https://bsky.app/profile/sierkovitz.bsky.social/post/3mcrzkq4mns2h
>>98431432They added 2 cards to the Power of 9 and blue is still the only color.
>>98431046not in paper, at least not in ways that feel unfair. sometimes you just flood out or get mana screwed. that's part of the variance. sometimes the other guy just draws all his bombs early enough. that's part of the variance. its still somewhat tilting to lose to obvious variance, but its relatively rare and also very obvious, so its easy to shake it off and just accept that sometimes the heart of the cards is on your opponent's sidebut I know my deck isn't stacked against me on purpose, I physically shuffled it myself and know nobody else fucked with it. I know the other deck isn't stacked in his favor. I watched the other guy shuffle his and know he's not fucking with it once the game starts. but if you're talking arena its 100% rigged, top to bottom front to back. every single freemium online competitive game is today, and if you think they aren't you're a sucker. they can do anything and everything behind the scenes to adjust the outcome of a game based on what their algorithms think each player needs to stay engaged
>>98431420>I stopped playing Arena because it is obviously rigged.It was so much worse before that autist assembled large datasets of games to prove the shuffler was rigged.
>>98431046Even outside of Arena rigging shenanigans, the BO1 ladder format is a miserable way to play draft. BO3 helps balance out flood/ screw somewhat plus in games 2 and 3 you have a better idea of what your opponent has and can better play around bombs/ niche blowout cards. Pod drafts like you do in paper also help balance out the format a bit as it's harder for someone to build an OP deck assuming other people know what they're doing. With arena match making this isn't the case as once you get to like 4 wins or so you'll mostly be matched with people who were drafting with a bunch of drooling morons and got to take all the OP cards whereas you may have had to compromise on a more flawed deck
>>98431787I'm convinced a lot of the so called "drafters" are bots too. If they can't make the numbers work they'll just put a few bots in.
>>98431432>a subtle manipulation of packsit's called card rarity, and they use it every set
>>98431046It's infinitely worse in Quick Draft, I used to go for it whenever I could since I'm not spending money for fucking digital cards, but that whole queue is cursedBots are extremely retarded and draft specifically to fuck you over, so you rarely ever get to build an actually proper deck and I suspect there's bots in the actual queue as well since I've seen some ungodly plays by weird accounts
>>98426591next up, Battlefield/CoD/ModernWarfare UB sets I'm joking, guys
>>98430346When is the MtG Gencon panel?
>>98430346>>98432503D&DxStarWars?Why? Just park another movie for your 50th years of Star Wars, man.
how many UB/crossovers can this game handle? and by this game i mean magic not edh...
>>98432567Lucasfilm is already doing that Starfighter movie next year, so more than that wouldn't be feasible at this point unless it's an animated film
>>98431046The sooner you stop playing Arena, the better.
>>98431046Sorry bro but arena drafts are higher skilled than any other version of draft it takes a lot of work to really be good at it.
>>98430346so Disney got leash on hasbro, so what shit ip their holding going to push our throaths next?
surely Ill get at least 4 canada dollars worth of cards, right?
>tolarian library is now closedfuck where can i order proxies with the holo marker now?
>>98433262No
>>98433318bunch of junk that might up add up to 4 dollars though I am being generousthough I did pull this which is like half the price of the pack almost. I guess
>>98433119you just posted it amigo
>>98426504>The creation of the Omenpaths universally benefited every plane in the multiverse.Mass immigration between planes being possible is the greatest disaster conceivable actually.
>>98426504>The creation of the Omenpaths universally benefited every plane in the multiverse.
So the full set is revealed and the best card is still the common Tron piece. What a complete waste of everyone's time (WotC and players).
Does this card imply that the phyrexians got owned epic style in the jaceverse?
>>98433783Dies to Dismember
Phyrexians could still be out there, we know they got fucked on every single known plane but they devastated plenty other nameless ones (hence why so many people fucked off to the Wild West)So at any point they could just whip them out again, right?
>>98433880In response i cast mutagenic growth paying two life
I miss standard. I miss my gpg deck and bringing back angel of invention with haste.
>>98433695Hobbit set will be forgotten, this garbage is literally the worst UB set for now in the whole 2026
>>98434032Nah, it’s better than TMNT and Marvel by default
>>98434032Yeah, no idea where this is coming from. At its worst, it will be the best Standard UB set of all time.
>>98431152Not only has Jace not always been sparkling good, but his fall into villainy was built up over a lot of shit.Jace is a telepath, which means he not only can read minds, but in fact has to actively concentrate in order to not hear the thoughts of everyone around him. Worse though, his mental abilities can overpower the minds of the unprepared and break their delicate structures- he describes it as being a sledgehammer in a room of glass sculptures. This includes things like active perception, memories, emotions… basic motor control. In a fit of rage as a child he made his abusive Sphinx mentor forget how to breathe, at which point the poor guy suffocated wailing like a baby.Then you have to consider the rapid tenure of events he built up since being introduced:>accidentally release the Eldrazi>Ravnica almost falls to war so claims the responsibility of the Living Guildpact>helps Gideon defeat the first two Eldrazi>interacts with Emrakul as she imprisoned herself in the moon of Innistrad>took part in the Aether Revolt of Khaladesh>got his mind blown out by Bolas on Amonkhet>marooned and nearly died on Ixalan, managed to fall for a goth baddie who in turn only didn’t kill him immediately because he had amnesia>had to then remove her memories of loving him to keep her safe from Bolas>his role model Gideon dies fighting Bolas, he loses the Guildpact powers, then the one with the powers then (Niv Mizzet) punishes Vraska for not being helpful enough.>phyrexians get ready to invade, in the strike force Vraska gets infected, and he’s too damn in love with her to avoid getting compleated himself>manages to hide copies of his and vraska’s minds in a pocket of his brain while most of him is enslaved to Elesh Norn>subverts the invasion by deliberately not being good at his slave job, saves the multiverse, and still isn’t allowed to be happy with Vraska.Yeah, if I was an insecure guy like Jace, I’d have snapped by then as well.
>>98434053>better than star trekno way, tons of trekkies out there willing to invest on kirk/picard cards
>>98434075Nah, I disagree. If only because I prefer fantasy.
>>98434065I mean, look at it this way- the only planeswalkers with a similar tenure to this point are Nissa, who’s canonically an autistic tree hugger, so of course she doesn’t care, Chandra, who is a stupid eternal flame baby, and Liliana, who has bested the odds and scammed and been awful and never had to fully pay for her crimes. Ajani comes close, but he sparked as an adult, sidestepped the Eldrazi entirely, and other than Phyrexia has been a force for good. Elspeth comes close, but she’s a tragic hero- keyword being HERO.Jace is just… a smarter than average regular guy. He doesn’t have anything special to drive him or set him apart from others the way other characters do. He just… thinks, and feels, like a regular person.
Dick lickers
I like dicks
>>98434065They honestly missed a trick not having some loophole that brought Urza back based on Teferi visiting him at the moment of using the Sylex. Urza was incredibly smart, he could have done something slightly different based on that meeting to avoid future events, but no instead we get OMG JACE IZ BADGUYZ NOW.Doubly stupid because they inadvertently made Jace actually a decent character for once during / after the Ixalan arc but then they just threw all of that in the trash anyway.
>>98433783As things should be. Also no wakanda forevar.
>>98434412Unfortunately Urza wouldn't be the one writing the lore about his return.
>>98434432I hope Jace can shift his version of Mirrodin into the real multiverse before he inevitably loses and gets sent to the gay dragon jail where bolas resides.
>>98434432Bro you mean wakanda for never!? Bruh.
>>98425184>mythic Smaug is weaker than an ordinary bearlmao
Another one to trigger the purists
Another gay dragon.
The sloppening of MTG began with the 6th edition rules changes and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
this set fucking sucks
>>98434985>the 6th edition rules changesWhat were they?
i was expecting so much about hobbit bros...
Let me guess, the cards are not pushed enough for your taste.
>>98435065NTA but this set is so fucking Commander coded is not even about cards pushed or not, I would not care about a low or high power level but every single card is everything just fucking soulless
>>98434959>random dog>colorless>has reach for whatever fucking reasonIt's working, I'm triggered by such a fucking lazy design.
if you chuds dont like make anymore you could always stop posting in these threads and do something productive with your lives
>>98435196It has reach because it's a long dog xD
>>98435197Sorry Mark, you will have to keep hearing me shit on the vomit you are feeding the playerbase, i have free time now to do it
Never forget the anon who uses Tcgplayer snapshot sales data to prove that UB is not selling.
>>98435238Is there really any competition? Nobody cares about Yu-Gi-Oh, Riftbound, Gundam or Lorcana anymore. Pokemon cards are all scalped for outrageous prices, and it seems that players are less likely to buy the marked up cards than Magic players are.
>>98435238how many of those sales are magic the gathering and how many are for commander products?
>>98435265>Nobody cares about Yu-Gi-Oh, Riftbound, Gundam or Lorcana anymore.What do you base this off, the amount of threads on 4chan?
>>98434959are there really no golems or constructs or whatever in lotr
>>98435282Every product is a Commander product. Get this through your thick skull already.
>>98435288I own 7 game stores across 3 different states
>>98435325Proof?
I play mostly legacy doomsday. Lately ours weekly’s don’t fire.Witch modern deck for the Doomsday feel?
Hobbit full spoiler is out, and I must say it looks like the shittiest set ever until the next set.
>>98435640Explain why.
>>98435653He's mad that there's only one named female legendary of Belladonna Took- the queen of dale exists to be a mom/trophy for the heteronormative Bard (because WotC are too bigoted to understand that he and the Master of Lake-Town had a dom/sub relationship), and the sackville-bagginses are a clear case of an abusive husband and a woman who is hated for being herself.baka my head at Grand Wizards of the Coast.
>>98435339>Witch modern deck for the Doomsday feel?don't think there's a single deck that can give you the exact same feel, doomsday is a pretty unique cardI guess I'd recommend amulet titan if you want the "let me think really hard about how can I play around X to win the game"if what you really want is the "I win next turn and you can't stop me" try blue belcher
>The Hobbit full spoilersNot a monk in sight. That's what I expected though. I'll be skipping the whole set, it seems.
>>98435811is this just a ripoff of the minotaur guy gimmick from reddit
>>98435653All the cards are shit and gay.
>>98435811we'll get monk cards in the wow UB
>>98435831I find Belladonna fun strong and cute.
they will extract some passage about a monkey and make it a monk
>>98435757post so based it should have been dubs
>>98432663Is Starfighter gonna be based on Rogue Squadron? Might be fun not having a force-sensitive protag.
>>98435238I specifically chose Play Booster Boxes to illustrate the state of the game as played on the table. Play Boxes are the primary mode of engaging with the game as a game, not as a hype-driven FOMO price gouging vehicle / ersatz heroin.Going with the route of Focused Sampling, rather than just believing retard corporate hype, gives you a better view of the health of the game as a game. In other words, Play Booster Boxes give you the best available view of what people who actually play the game are buying. Other statistics indicate hype from non-players, culture vulture tourists etc.The product is selling does not mean the game is alive.
>>98425184top 10 cards for the hobbit. i knew quantum riddler was going to be good so keep that in mind
>>98436245>"Hey what do we do for the Gandalf card?">"Uhhh i'unno just slap the Vivi effect on it."VISIONARYCREATIVITY
>>98436255vivi gets counters and makes mana, it's not the same
>>98436245you're sure this isn't a random 10? what a bucket of turds this set is
>>984362842-3 cards being playable is about on par for a standard set these days. look at marvel. obviously things are going to be banned and standard needs to rotate more
>>98436233The game is doing better than ever. If you play Commander. If you don't, well, why are you still here?
>>98436233>ECLsurely it should be LEC
>>98436292>obviously things are going to be bannedin standard? lmao
>>98436292>things are going to be banned and standard needs to rotate moreStandard is flourishing and balanced
>>98436387In Nebraska?
>>98436370>>98436387if they're not then we're going to see another format where a new set releases and none of the cards are played
>>98436465I like Badgermole Cub as a concept (and have a soft spot for Avatar) but it's clearly warping the standard format- it shouldn't have been printed, and it ought to be banned alongside a number of other key cards that require immediate response.
>>98436465>>98436479Or hell, just ban all the cards from a certain number of sets in standard for a new format that has a smaller, more recent card pool... since Standard is too big, we can call this new smaller format something like... Unextended, since standard feels so stretched out.
>>98436479>warping the standard formatit's netting at least 1 mana every turn, 4 mana with 2 copies, and 9 mana with 3. it's the dumbest card ever printed into a standard format other than thoughtseize and dromoka's command. maybe steel cutter
>>98435857desu I think belladona and the mythic gollum are neat enough to try and playI have a silly little rakdos deck built around foundations alesha and being able to reanimate gollum after him drawing a card while eating a removal is a pretty nice ideapic rel is the card I know is bad but I'm going to try anyway because I love sacrifice decks and even if the jeskikes kill this immediately at least I have a 3/3
>>98436479Oy vey goyim, you should play the obviously powerful white cards that are so powerful and mighty with power. Clearly players haven’t yet fully understood how to harness such power and whiteness of powerful white cards for the past 8 years.
>>98436245arghwhat a sad selection of UB cards.
>>98436583Careful. You talk like that and the Thoughtseize defenders will come out of the woodwork to say it's skilled.
>>98436439Collectors are having a blast
>>98436245I want to cast ulamog on turn 3 with the diverse lawyer hobbits
>>98436233Very interesting. It’s almost like FIN was excluded for some specific, cherry-picking-like reason
>>98436693thoughtseize is a bad solution to worse problems that also enables those worse problems by stripping away answers to those problems
Is it just me or is there zero hype for the hobbitIt feels like a 90s magic set in the worst way, it's just turbo generic fantasy. Bear, goblin, dragon, knight.Maybe that's a good thing. I don't know. What I do know is I'd rather have 6 sets a year than have one of them be this
>>98434959WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY MAKING LIVING ANIMALS COLORLESS CREATURES NOW I'M GOING FUCKING INSANE
>>98425184I wish I liked Magic.I really do.I just don't.
>>98436872For what reason would you wish to like one of the worst, sloppiest most corporatized products in the world?
>>98436745>It’s almost like FIN was excluded for some specific, cherry-picking-like reasonThe reason FIN is excluded is because the data only goes back 1 year, and FIN was not within a 1 year window at the time I made the initial image.
>>98436986>>98436990Furthermore, even if the data went back that far I am confident FIN would still be low in this metric.Spider-man is one of the top-10 selling sets of all time, you know! MSH apparently is a FIN-level success and it does not show in Play Booster sales. My best guess given what I've seen is that FIN likely hit the 1800-2500 territory.
>>98436842there's 0 hype because its spiderman 2small set with terrible cards clearly designed exclusively for commander that is for some reason being foisted upon standard
>>98436842>What I do know is I'd rather have 6 sets a year than have one of them be thisBest I can do is 8 sets a year, and 3 of them are this.
>>98436813This was my opinion on Duress all the way back in USG it's just that they patched over it by making creatures extremely good (so no more decks running 1 copy of Morphling as their only creature) so half the time it can't hit the card that matters. Basically no other card game has permitted a Thoughtseize-style effect to remain playable even in a drastically nerfed state (Appointer of the Red Lotus) because it's such a horrible design.
it's happening
I played RG Survival Aggro at Premodern today. List was roughly this with slight sideboard adjustmentshttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7796833#paper>2-1 Oath PonzaG1 - He wins die roll and snowballs out ahead with a fast 4/4 Terravore that I can't remove, I concede to conceal infoG2 - He wasn't sure how to board because of the above, I'm able to remove his Oath and run away with creaturesG3 - I keep a 1 land hand built around Quirion Dryad, some burn and Naturalize and drew into a second one. I destroyed his Oath and rode the Dryad to victory>1-2 FEBG1 - I have a Lavamancer hand so he opts for a Shapeshifter Devourer Trisk line which I tap out of surviving I thinkG2 - I keep an opening hand with 3 wastelands and he mulls to 3, his only land being Treva's RuinsG3 - He therapies me and misses but sees that I have Reverent Silence. He plays out his own survival and I'm prompted to go through my lizards then Silence to blow both of them up, then he Pyroclasms (I should have ended the chain with an Arrogant Wurm) which I didn't expect. The game becomes stalled, my two Wild Mongrels unable to break through his two Wall of Roots even going to the point of Unearthing one when I do manage to kill it. He ends up resolving a Battlefield Scrounger which I can't remove due to his well stocked graveyard, then he casts a second Pyroclasm to sweep up my now 3 Mongrels and wins with combat damage.>2-1 Elves w/ AngerG1 - Keep double Lavamancer hand, but can't keep the elves under control and he snowballs up to double HermitG2 - He has vomits 4 creatures into play on turn 2, so I bolt the Symbiote and kill the other 3 with Cave-In and he can't rebuild.G3 - He gets a turn 3 (?) Masticore into play, but I have Bolt + Cave-In to deal with it and the mana dorks in play while he's tapped out. I think I ended up winning with a Dryad + Lava Dart or something
>Hear Hobbit spoilers finally ended>Check spoilers>More interesting card to me is a 2-mana Bone PickerI think I've officially given up on standard. Reality Fractured is gonna have to be the best Magic set ever to bring me back in, and "Snapcaster but red" is not what I'm looking for. Maybe if Cauldron goes below $30 after rotation I'll get into modern.
>>98437032>Battlefield Scrounger/Volrath's Shapeshifterhow does that even work in the rules anon? if you have the full text of Scrounger and use its ability then gain the full text of something else (or nothing) then go back to having the Scrounger text again can you use the ability again?
Had a dream about leaving two mana open to play Rakdos Charm's anti-artifact mod against Ruby Storm as an answer to their early Ruby, I wonder if that was the right play or if my subconscious is supposed to know that emptying their graveyard when they go off with flashback is better.
>>98436245Where is the astrolabe-lite with the scry 2?
>>98437032Soul...
>>98437094I am very tired so if I typed something about that line sorry I didn't mean to, it didn't occur in any of my games. I do believe it's considered a different Scrounger each time and there's a line that involves activating it infinite (?) times for combat damage or something. >>98437115I don't have reals, I just proxy them as do most people. I did help the FEB player source and buy a playset before line went up though.
>>98437154What is FEB?
>>98437156In MtG? In context of Survival of the Fittest most likely Full English Breakfast combo. (Too complicated to explain. Sorry!)
>>98437156Yeah, full english breakfast. You can look up some videos but tl;dr it's a deck built around Hermit Druid and has a number of other very complex paths that you can take to victory. It's quite resilient but can be difficult to play.
>>98437103>scry 2 vs draw oneare you dense
>>98437212>>98437204>>98437156I thought full english breakfast is rather simple? Have Volrath's Shapeshifter in play. Discard Flowstone Hellion (Volrath's Shaleshifter gains its abilities), then activate its (0) ability 11 times, then discard Phyrexian Dreadnought (Volrath's Shapeshifter gains its abilities except since it's already in play Dreadnought's ETB ability won't trigger), then allow 11 activated abilities to resolve. Result? 23/1 trampler with haste.
>>98437230Woah premodern looks fun and definitely not cancerous like any other format!
>>98437218I guess we'll find out soon enough won't we
>>98437254astrolabe was mostly broken because of snow synergies and because it made you immune to wasteland, none of which are applicable here
>>98436245making a 4/4 flyer for 2 mana is no good?
>>98437230I've not seen a version with Hellion or Dreadnought. The latter is run in Angry Ghoul which is a different deck but still based around Hermit Druid and has a Stiflenought backup plan.
>>98437272no, it is nothttps://gatherer.wizards.com/M21/en-us/3/angelic-ascension
>>98437278but eagles let's you recast it. tho if your opponent just holds removal it's kinda dead
>>98437290ok so it's a 4/4 fear of isolation that can't bounce noncreatures in white. it's basically a glorified ninja or duskmourn kaito, and duskmourn kaito is a lot better than a 4/4 flier
Welp, The Hobbit fucking sucks.Gollum might do something. Who cares honestly.Guess it's time to wait for the next disappointing slop fest.
Are you hyped for WoW?
At least no pushed bullshit chase rare is a good thing.
>>98436590>3 mana 3/2 + 3/3 on deathjust seems very strong desu
>>98437584>>98436590Let's target Ball Lightning with it
>>98436583>>98436693>>98436813>>98437017Do we hate the entire mechanic of picking a card from your opponent's hand and binning it, or is it specifically thoughtseize for being too efficient and oppressive?
>>98437609My thoughts had gone to the mindskinner and slumbering trudge but that's a sensible option too. Tbh I'm increasingly itching to investigate if there's a deck to be made out of sacrificing cheap creatures with very high power stats.
>>98437609>6 mana 9/8Unironically pretty fucking awful
>>98437218This post isn't going to age well.
>>98437846It's standard-legal though?
>>98438264Standard already has a better target for it than Ball Lightning
>>98438282And I forget the image
>>98437230the best thing of premodern is that the value of my old shitpile collection is growing exponentially
>>98438285Oh yeah for sure.
>>98438312It's the only good thing about it, that's the point.
>want to try out a new pioneer deck in arena to see if it'll work before I get the paper version>one of the key cards is missingdon't fucking call it pioneer then you stupid ape niggers
>>98438639I know right? I cannot even make the Dubious Challenge deck I had in paper, because they can't be even bothered to release all the missing cards from the Remaster.
>>98438639I don't know why they aren't doing what they did with mtgo where they just slowly released all the older sets in full.
>>98438653>>98438659forget about pioneer, just play standard and consume ub and get excited for next products
The ironic thing about nu-Zhalfir is that even with niggers on ALL the card art, mono White cards are STILL going to be the weakest of the set. Like every set.
>>98438670> just play standard*commander
>>98438639>>98438659Because it's easier to say you have pioneer in your game when you change the definition of what pioneer is instead of releasing all the cards.
>>98438659They did for some time but at one point they probably got tired of people asking them when they will put pioneer on arena like they promised and just decided the format was close enough to pioneer despite lacking some cards. They changed the name on the format to pioneer so they could say pioneer was on arena . Mission accomplished.
>>98437629For me the problem is the mechanic because of how much the game warps around its existence to accommodate a design that adds extremely little to the game. Thoughtseize and Grief are obviously the two most egregious examples of it, but the same issues apply to basically every design (look at how often people bitch about the 2-mana equivalents every time they're in Standard). This effect also comes attached to a lot of informational baggage in a manner that's unavoidable, namely the ability to instantly view your opponent's hand, which removes any guesswork surrounding responses you need to play around. Viewing the hand alone is already an extremely valuable effect (Git Probe VS Street Wraith), and this comes attached to the ability to remove the biggest problem. The potential for skill expression here is also extremely low, with the ceiling generally coming down to "I know my opponent is on a combo deck (because I saw their hand) so I will take their combo piece". This is all ostensibly in service of putting a suppression vector on combo decks that would otherwise require a counterspell, but in exchange you increase the bias towards going first, and put drastically more pressure on starting hands to be strong, both of which have already repeatedly been large problems in Magic. Quite ironically, it also ends up serving as a great tool for combo decks as well, because now they can not only tell if you have one of a few answers to them, but they force you to have two instances of it in your hand.It's a design basically nobody likes. Every single time another card game experiments with this design, it ends up getting banned or errata'd into oblivion because it genuinely causes 10x the problems it tries to solve.
>>98438954If it were never an effect you could access on turn 1 or turn 2, but something that could be attached to 3+ cost cards (having it ride along as an ETB on a creature, for example), how much would that alleviate the issues with it?
are there any good cards in the hobbit other than maybe some bilbo combos shennanigans ?
>>98439338see;>>98436245
>>98439353dude you basically picked a vanilla bear over bilbo "bringer of infinite combos" baggins, I do not trust you
>>98439449>baral, chief of compliance for graveyards only with attached dreadhorde arcanist attack triggerit's ass
>>98438954yeah but like what if it just costs 3
>>98438954Thoughtseize is unironically my fav card specifically because it lets me see my opponent's hand'ate Blue players, simple as
>>98439484you realize that other than lands everything in mtg is a spell, so with bilbo you can cast creatures artifacts, basically everything....... from exile, top of library, graveyard for 1 mana less
>>98439610wow, that's ass because those types of permanents don't naturally go to the graveyard anyway. pic related is you, right?
>>98439248>>98439582it would either be bad (i used to play toll of the invasion) or aids (lifebane zombie). if it could only stop combos, that would be fine. the problem is stripping away answers to your opponent's strategy
>>98439248Then you're left with the same dilemma. Either it's unplayably overcosted (why even bother with the effect at that point), or it's a card that makes it impossible for your opponent to recover from you resolving it.
>>98438954I hate thoughtseize with a passion, turn one it is basically at the power level of timewalk or something, completly insane you get information of the opponents hand and remove the best card.
>>98439449this vanilla bear was played in standard, maybe the bear of unusual size has a shot
>>98439778my man this was 16 years ago and the elemental is basically hexproof the bear is not
New thread>>98439870>>98439870>>98439870
>>98439796>the elemental is basically hexproof the bear is not>the bear is notwhich bear are you talking about? you are illiterate so your argument was disregarded>>98425184
>>98437584its definitely strong outside of tier 1 deck contexts but lessons/jeskai rev piles have enough bounce effects and exile removal to have this not do the thing often enough, and the Gx cub decks laugh in your face if you spend 3 mana to play a 3/2
>>98439778>standard from over a decade agoyou need to see if things were played in extended, since that's what current day standard really isnobody is playing a 7 mana non-evasive blob of stats. can't be countered is irrelevant, noone is playing countermagic anyway and by the time you get 7 mana control decks will be ready to revelation it back to your hand from the stack
>>98438673The white part of Boros Energy has strong cards
