Stormcast beer opener edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98431670 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>4e Booksgofile.io/d/JXpc9g>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread Question:Did you ever paint or play under the influance? What was the result?
>>98447045Is it true Ironjawz test quality of metal by feeding it to Gore Gruntas, and if the pig shits it out whole instead of digesting it that means it's tough enough to use?
>>98447062Sure thing pal, whatever fetish you want to base your guys off is on you
>>98447062Sounds like destruction lore
>TQI think I could trust myself more if I was under the influence when painting.
>>98447062That aint rust on their weapons, thats for sure.
>>98447082Vultures seam like increadibly common animals in Mortal Realms.Which makes sens given all the killing going on i guess
>>98446073There's actually aome indication that ogres are getting some stuff in 5th edition, I think rumourmongers implied a maneater release. How big or what exactly that entails remains to be seen, but it's something
>>98447062yeah, it's pig metal
How fun are Gargants and what army in AoS will always piss off the opponent?
>>98447062yes, or something like that, I can't understand what the writer was thinking when he wrote that, was he genuinely imagining these slaps of sharp metal somehow passing through a set of guts and an anus?
>>98447177It's a play on pig iron
>>98447184I don't think wordplays are going to help a pig shit out that razor sharp chunk of metal
Finished the Starpriest I was working on
>>98447241There might be enought shit puns. Maybe they are shitting sideways?
>>98447244Nice gradient and eyes. Are they pink or do they just look like that?
>>98447177I assume they only mold the iron AFTER the pig tested the ore
>>98447045>>Did you ever paint or play under the influance? I was so far gone from years of alcohol abuse that the delirium tremors any time I stopped drinking made it impossible for me to do any of my work without drinking. I couldn't do my job without being drunk and I couldn't paint without being drunk. I woke up drinking and I went to bed drinking for almost five consecutive years. It came to a head when I almost died from alcohol poisoning when I just collapsed in public after binging to try to calm my nerves before I proposed to my girlfriend. Thankfully my fiance was with me and got me to a hospital where they pumped my stomach and got me fluids. I don't remember the first night in the ER at all I was so blacked out and I don't even remember making my marriage proposal from a crash cart while the doctor told me I was lucky to be alive and my BAC was almost twice the lethal dose. We had a really heartfelt conversation and I swore I would get sober before we got married. She stayed with me through the most awful withdrawals of my life and the meds the doctor gave me to help keep my heart from exploding made me even more sick while I turned into a crazed animal begging for a drink.>What was the result?My models looked like shit and I couldn't paint for almost three months. Got married a year later and sober for three years now.
>jee, billy, how come mawm lets you have 3 basic mounts?
Eyo, last thread I mentioned was doing a 1-1 converting a slaanesh force using my heroes infinite subscription. I've done the heroes but for infantry, cav and beasts I had a question to slaanesh players.If I want a decent amount of models to mix n match when im list building how many of each unit would i need?I was thinking on the following but would like advice:20 deamonettes30 blissbarb archers10 mymidesh10 twinsouls10 deamonette seekers10 slickblades seekers10 blissbard seekers6 fiends of slaanesh6 slaangors.
>>98447241I imagine that goregruntas have a digestive system on par with ogres
>>98447246Yeah they ended up kinda pinkish, I wanted them more purple tbdesu. I dont really feel like redoing them though
>>98447262Was the wooly rhino the metal version of mournfang?
>>98447250Damn anon that's some real shit. Glad you're doing better now
>>98447289If I remember correctly its an old forgeworld unit that came in the tamurkhan book for warhammer fantasy.Back when forgeworld made things other than HH and necromunda.
>>98447289It was a forge world unit based on the idea of using the scraplauncher's rhinox as steed, except they somehow made it twice as big along the way.In a better world the mournfang cavalry would have come with optional heads to make them ride small rhinoxes too.
I would like thalia if she was a sexier crazy looking bitch.
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>>98447326I like the model but wished there was a non named version too
>>98447308Wtf I didn't even know this version of the scraplauncher existed
>>98447311This image is kinda funny even by itself
>>98447311>>98447326I can fix her
The old sculpts look great with the new heads, and since you get so many extra heads in the Army Set, I'll be able to use the older units in the Spearhead I got
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>>98447407that works surprisingly well
>>98447311this artist's work is genuinely revolting
>>98447311>mace in the garbagekino detail
>>98447262>wooly rhino with extra horns>wooly rhino mixed with a sabretooth cat >bald dog with two sets of horns Why'd they do it?
>>98447403>>98447407Great, I just found one for 136 euro, I have some spare glutton and mournfang bodies, now I just have to get good at reposing glutton legs
>>98447403>>98447407How do they look next to and amongst the new kits though?
>>98447506alot more smaller.
>>98447507Could you show those mixed gluttons?
A lot of the meta plot hinges on Archaon never bothering to talk to Teclis about the chains
>>98447584Why would he?
>>98447592Cuse he'd like to have a whole bunch of identical ones to throw at other things, but is stuck revers engineering the Slaanesh ones he's slowly taking appart to do so
>>98447584Archaon is satan, why would Teclis talk with him? Bruh what even. It's a secret only the Aelven gods are in on - one they didn't even disclose to their allies. Why would Teclis tell Archaon about it? Archaon, the champion of the dark gods?
>>98447592Allegedly because he is considering copying the design to chain down all the other gods too.But you know how chaosfags are written, puppets without self awareness but delusions of control and all.
>>98447610source: it came to me in a dream
Fucked up how only one stormcast has an axe.
>>98447603>>98447610>You know those chains I'm trying to destroy to bring doom to you and everything you know and love? Would you please hand me the schematics? I need them for a thing.
>>98447617I believe it was rapidly mentioned in the book where katakros invades the eightpoints, archaon was at first away from there because he was destroying one the chains that were holding slaanesh back>inb4>wants to chain all the gods>acts to free the one that's chained downyeah, I know, puppet and all that, I fucking wish he wasn't written by self righteous retards with daddy issues
>>98447628...what?there's tons?
>>98447244Preem stuff, my guy. Excellent work as always. Feathers feel a bit more subdued than your usual work but that’s not a bad thing. Helps make his bright blue skin pop even more. Nice work making the eyes look like he’s channeling, too.
Are there any pdfs for 4th edition for the DOK and/or HOS available yet?
>>98447650No, that's not in Wrath of the Everchosen.
>>98447669weird, maybe it was in a short story close to it, I'm sure it was a thing though
>>98447661Haven't seen them yet. CoS dropped recently
>>98447308In a better world we just got the rhinox riders (which existed first anyway) and never got the hideous mournfang
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>>98447403>>98447407The helmets on the old sculpts, maybe.The helmetless heads look fucking horrible
>>98447660Appreciated anon. That's the feel I'm getting from the feathers as well and I can't shake the feeling I should've made them as saturated as everything else.
>>98447669Yes it is idiot
>>98447673idk man sounds bogus
>>98447326>>98447311Damn, kinda makes me wish I did not use the helmet version now.
>>98447704Mournfang are just Rhinox with an original head
>>98447733gooner please
>>98447760I am true to my nature.
>>98447733the unhelmeted one is too ugly, at least with the helmet she can be a cute girl underneath if you wish for it enough
>>98447766Then stop
>>98447713Kek
>>98447771Look at the head now yeah, there's alot of wrinkles on the plastic. I'll probably see if some greenstuff work will fix it, that's what I did with Maleneth and was happy with the result.If it works out then I can prolly use it for some CoS kit that I've not built or bought.
>my gofile is still up>over 130 downloads:)
De-Lyrior’d my Lyrior to be a <mydude>, I also just like this pose better than the generic lord regent. I don’t know when I’ll get to writing lore, but I want to.
>>98447896yeah noticed it this morning, appreciate it anon >>98447899Looking swell, is the plan to run him as a generic regent or lyrior in-game? I have no idea how good either one is.I don't really care for lumineth in general but I do REALLY like this model and the dawnriders. If they ever put that shit in a spearhead I'm jumping on it
>>98447935Definitely Lyrior. Generic regent is a few steps from being as bad as his dArK miRrOR, the Akhelian King. Standard hero combat profile+crit mortal with a OPB +1 to hit/-1 to be hit, Reroll charges for LRL wholly within…6 inches. An absolute fall from grace compared to the index version that led a list lovingly referred to as the “Rohan build”.
>>98447956huh, I was under the impression that the akhelian king was pretty damn good? But it's been a while since I kept up with tomes and stuff. Looking at the scroll at a glance it seems alright
>>98447968It wouldn’t be nearly as bad(maybe even quite good) if his ability affected companion weapons, which is where Deepkin’s damage is. The only units that would really benefit from his rend boost as it is are the Morrsarr guard or the Ikons.
Oh right this useless thing will be out later in the month.
>>98447896shhh the TWW fans
>>98448075I'd play Gitmob if Snarlfangs looked like that
>>98448075Who is he?!
>>98448097SOON
>>98448094he's a lost kid trying to survive amongst goblins by pretending to be one
>>98448094Isn't that just a rider that lost his wolf?
Does anyone have a PDF of either ravaged coast or blighted wilds?
>>98448109Probably, no git has a helm like that and especially with the hair underneath the helm rather than rimmedGeneric sword too whereas git's are all bent
>>98447331I like the idea of CoS getting mishmash creatures as mounts/companions.
>>98448111I have some pics of blighted wilds rulesgofile io/d/eIn0wk
>>98448075Looncurse kino returns
>>98448111https://gofile.io/d/lAPBmS>>98448081>implying secondaries ever go here for longer than 5 minutes to shitpost retarded memes that no one cares for
>>98448204This matchup is actually a bit silly, because the seat of Gloomspite power is in Chamon, Squisgs main Ghur, Spiders are from Shyish next to the Shyish Kruleboyz and wolfs are centred around Hysh.Ghyran realy doesn't match them all that much
>>98448223There was a period of time where they would stalk our gen 24/7 and report to gw every single file sharing site that was put up.
>>98448223Thank you fren!
>>98447275Anyone here able to advise?
>>98448238>wolfs are centred around HyshAqshy* they originate from Hysh but the main horde/pack is now in AqshyYou're wrong though, Moonclan have their faction leader in Chamon but the Jaws of Mork/Overbounder and Looncourt are firmly grounded in Ghyran. There's more Ghyran Moonclan stuff than Chamon at this point so it's a little odd to say
>>98448280Of fucking course the main wolf guys are in aqshy
>>98448280Wait was the kaiju squig skull fortress in Ghyran, not Ghur?
>>98448070Wonder if it will come with a stomcast mini like the 40k did with a space marine
>>98448304They are Aqshy based and expanding into Hysh not "centred around Hysh"
You would think that sylvaneth would have some artwork of them fighting sbgl. Or literally any instance of death.
>>98448247the discord trannies are different from the secondaries.
>>98448376>Or literally any instance of death.
>>98448490Bee stings must realy suck against people with 0% of soft tissue
>>98448430Nah, I browse wfg too and the shitflingers are definitely secondaries. At most, they've came from 3dprinting as an adjacent hobby with a TWW fan background
>>98448490solitary bees drill holes in hardwood tbf super fantasy bees even hive types could do it on bone I guess
>>98448490Anyone got the closeup edit of the revenant and the dog with the speech bubble?
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So reading the new Ogor book since my box showed up on time. This shit's really interesting, it's less that the ogors are returning to tradition and more just Morga kinda killing off the one guy keeping them reasonable and now the ogor's are effectively just giving into their worst instincts and going full greedy. Also pretty neat Grell is the one revealing all the lore in the book in a conversation with Callis and Toll, I like when the secondary characters kinda dish out all the lore, like in the FEC book having it be mostly Goremayne.ALSO I gotta say it's gonna be much easier to kitbash new and old considering the new gluttons are still doing the stupid one foot in front of the other pose. If you really want to as well you can shave off the front half of the new ogor gutplates to slot in the old ones!
>>98448741>>98448749The one I remember was slightly different. I think it referred to Alarielle or Nagash instead.
>>98448070I dunno I remember enjoying those as a kid. I remember constantly checking out the star wars ones from my local library and just looking at all the cool pictures, if kids get to see all the cool bullshit from AOS without needing the models I think that's a win.
>>98448781Every battletome has it. 40k too now. It's a 6th edition WHF thing or something Feels really awkward imo, we should have various POVs with ambiguity about authenticity instead of the same objective facts from 1-3rd edition with a lazy framing
>>98448820>we should have various POVs with ambiguity about authenticityThey do have that at times with quotes but I do see your point in having the named characters being the ones as the narrators might get a bit old.
>>98448070Is this some kind of discusiona out models? Like poitig out Fyreslayers ave keys or that Varanguard have god marked bits?
>>98448826In orruk warclans it's just a random Hobgrot, the main issue is that unlike WHF the attempt at world building feels a bit shallow. You should have one overarching pov that interacts with others, finds documents, stories, etc imo
Why did KO have a low win %?
>>98448901because nobody plays KO
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>>98448911What is the point of this? It's so soulless. Even old citadel catalogues were better
>>98448901Because GW don't know how to balance them and are too scared to let their ranged power go out of hand like they did with LRL.
>>98448873>the main issue is that unlike WHF the attempt at world building feels a bit shallowI mean, that's kinda on GW for basically doing dickall for worldbuilding. AOS has gotten the most barebones treatment in comparison to 40k and AOS because GW barely releases extra supplementary fluff material, video games, and puts out very few books.
>>98448901Ko are always busted or underpowered. It's just a natural consequence of them being essentially a 40k army stuck inside aos. Pretty hard to finetune
>>98448928That's literally what these books are, it's basically just art, pictures, and whatever bullshit stitched together with basic explanations. They're made for children anon.
>here's that leaked Necromunda model you've seen!Where's the Mancrusher article?
>>98449000What children wants to read a model catalogue for AoS though? I thought the children's book push died promptly
>>98449017The kind that sees it in the a target or whatever when he’s on errands with his mum I guess
>>98449017Like I said man, when I was a kid I checked out those old star wars guides from back in the day that were literally just pictures of the movies or characters because I was autistic and that scratched the itch just a little bit more than Archie Sonic Comics.I don't see why some kid wouldn't see this and be like "OH SHIT THIS IS COOL!", mind you bit of a difference now that kids can go online and all that fun stuff. >>98449024shit yeah that's literally the way you do it. Or again, library or scholastic book fair
>>98449017Kids will pick up whatever looks cool at first glance.
>>98449030fair enough just seems a bit daft to me. Toy catalogues are usually free so.
>>98449122I mean it is kinda silly, but also I don't think any of us are like under 10 years old so it makes much less sense for us to get it as opposed to some kid who sees "cool fantasy dudes!"
posted this guy's WIP previously so may as well post the finished love grey ogres
>>98449151I still haven't decided how I wanna do mine yet. I'm tempted to give all my gluttons the rocky clubby weapons and go for the classic icy ogors. I remember I was playing a game recently and saw a landscape of dead dirty ground with a low dusting on snow and wanted to use that for one of my armys for a hot minute.But what the fuck do I do for the rest of the colors
>>98449151That looks fantastic, I love the shading on the ice glave and all the muscle lines
Someone was wondering a thread or two ago about red skin ogors and how it'd look across the army and I think it could work. It'd be really easy to add little oni horns too if you wanted to go all out
>>98449183I'm doing the same. My lgs has an active frostgrave scene and they dominate the terrain and tables with the theme so it'll fit right in
>>98449218You gotta have some blue ones in there.
>>98449218if your going oni theme maybe have leaders with blue or yellow skin.
>>98449218>if outside of 12" from a British Owned Establishment, all Holiday Goers may move 6" if their movement puts them closer to the British Owned Establishment
>>98449221I wish ya luck anon, do you think blue pants would be too much in that case? I'm half tempted to try doing blue and white striped pants on all of them but I feel like I'll quickly regret that choice.
>>98449234Lol
>>98449151>>98449218Fuck, this looks good but there is a contrarian in me who want to do something 100% mine
>>98449236I think model railways and such have texture pastes for snow I think mud is usually just varnish over some earthy paste with a little black mixed in if it's too light?
>>98449230Give them a kanabo too
>>98449267I just usually go for a tub of the vallejo texture g oo, but a snow paste doesn't sound like a bad idea. I just want that kinda... shitty snow you see when it starts to melt. Like mid March snow if that makes sense. little bit dirty, gross, and sparser
>>98449266Hakama-style trousers for everyone.
>>98449218bongs in mallorca
>>98449505Everyone knows orcas are from Mallorca
>>98449518thin your paints my guy
>>98449518kewl
>>98449518Grimmy (in a good way)
>>98449518Learn how to use oil washes desu the state of this
>>98449505That nothing beats a Jet 2 Holiday meme but it's some freeguild getting eaten like a suckling pig
>>98447098have leakers mentioned the end of edition campaign at all? Starting to think there won't be one, and instead we'll just get a series of releases or something and an online lead into the game's squatting/rebrandingnot that the ghb's have ever been a strong source of lore, but the latest one especially looks like throw away slop, I get the feeling we're stuck in the waiting room until 5e for anything that feels fresh, but that's been the case since kragnos's dumbass showed up
>They still think the Rebranding nonsense will happen.LOL. LMAO, even.
>>98449978They won't rebrand, but the joining of the lands will happen. Most people won't know nor care, and will be confused if anyone tries to tell them.
>>98449978it's very strange how people think the game would benefit from TLW or anything like that. It makes no sense from a lore perspective or a business one. Truly a strange "leak" that will never ever happen.
>>98448075Sylvaneth are so fucking cool
>>98449937>have leakers mentioned the end of edition campaign at all?something about dwarfs and lizards going on the offensive, then getting pushed back by skaven, and liberated slaanesh, then the final attack of chaos into azyr
>>98450022it's not that I think any of those statements are true or not true, it's that multiple leakers that have repeatedly shared accurate information about releases all have reported a shift in the game's lore/marketing/vibe.i'd be happy if they just fixed the shit rules and made the game fun again but that's probably the least likely outcome here
>>98450041Wait a second... that's just the plot of End Times.
>>98450046Accurate information*
>>98450041What if Slaanesh got liberated but she was sooooo weak and was still shattered between slaanussy shards and it wa slike that whole freeing slaanesh storyline didn't happen
>>98449151God damn it's so good. He looks like he stepped off a comic book panel.
>>98448075Those battletome battle scense have been consistantly cool
>>98450050yep, they're soft rebooting Age of Sigmar with a pseudo-End Times. Or that's the rumor anyways. After Azyr gets smashed by Chaos, the remaining Realms get fused together into a new planet and then they rewrite all the lore to be closer to WHFB to try and appeal to the TOW crowd. That means all the gods are gone or unable to manifest, Stormcast are now a dying breed, the Slann go senile (again) and the free cities become little nations desperately holding their land against infinite tides of Chaos warriors
>>98450050dwarfs and lizards didn't do shit in the end times, and slaanesh was the least involved of the 4 brothers in it
>>98450077my best guess is GW would be fools to make massive changes to the game and then flop on the marketing front in getting attention drawn to it.I don't believe they'll call it fifth edition, but Age Of Sigmar: The Last World, with all the boxes and tomes etc having the AoS portion downplayed as subtext.100% believe they'll cut the double turn as well. Fits into their latest trend to pander to tourneybros and it's been a poison pill since 1e. I don't know what will replace it or if they even want to replace it, they might not care to be a shallow clone of 40k.
>>98450077That's FUCKING GAY AS HELL. Fantasychuds will NEVER touch AoS no matter HOW MUCH they change it to be like fantasy
>>98450130the aim is not to attract fantasyfags but 40kfags
>>98450115They'll quietly abandon the Age of Sigmar branding about six months into 5th/The Last World >>98450130yeah it's a pretty horrible plan. Which is why most people in this thread are hoping someone sane at GW tells them this is a horrible idea and they abort before it's too late. All they'll do is push away the people who actually like AoS and none of the WHFB oldfags/TOW newfags will ever be interested because they've already made up their minds about what AoS is
>>98450130Too late, they've done little but chase after that to the detriment of the game and now we're getting dwarf soup for more of it
>>98450061I just don't think they have a real reason to keep slaanesh trapped, or in any case different from the other gods, especially now that the risk of it getting squatted is long passed and the elves got repopulated
>>98447062No, Gore Gruntas have a habit of eating people WITH the armored on, and their stomachs can't digest the iron, which comes out the other end and gets used by the Ironjawz.It's got nothing to do with quality.
>>98450130desu I can't tell what's a parody or not with the tow postsboth games together take up maybe 1/10th the sales 40k does, the state of fantasy wargaming in general looks grim.
>>98450182The squatted threat was never real because they featured in the realm gate war campaign books with original art almost immediately The narrative always said slaanesh was trapped, probably as a gimmick because excess is a little vague to base an army off alone given Khorne is excess slaughter and tzeentch greed. Slaanesh as a faction is way more interesting for the absence, whereas the others feel a bit deflated given how irrelevant the gods actually aren
>>98450215Oh no, they absolutely considered ditching slaanesh at some point. Someone with half a brain just knew it wouldn't go over well and convinced them to do the comic book thing of "Have them go missing and if no one cares they actually died" The narrative at the VERY beginning didn't actually say slaanesh was trapped, just MIA, at a later point we found out they were trapped, but there was a small period of time where that wasn't the case. You also gotta remember that around the same time that happened, they made a big hullabaloo in 40k about the yncarnate which was supposed to be a massive threat to specifically slaanesh, was treated as extremely important in the lore, and then ended up being completely dropped and essentially abandoned. That was 100% going to be their out in 40k to get rid of Slaanesh had things gone another way, but they didn't and now 40k's stuck with a character that was created solely as a plot device to a now long abandoned plot thread.
>>98450313Not only dropped and abandoned, their end of the storyline was beyond retarded too where almost every Ynnari just dies to an illusion of a Keeper of Secrets after barely killing it. Not a real Keeper of Secrets, oh no just an illusion of one.
>>98450313>>98450356Don’t forget that the final McGuffin sword they needed to kill Slaanesh was stolen by Shalaxi and now sits in, I think, Slaanesh’s throne room.
>>98450356Is there any more faction that hasnt been squatted more fucked in the ass by GW than the Eldar? The amount of Ls. Weird models. Books so dogshit you struggle to find 3 worth reading. Always losing every story.
>>98450382Putting the only sword that can kill you right next to where people can expect to find you is a great strategy
>>98450387in aos i feel like idoneth are kinda fucked. Most of their lore is them interacting and being at a disadvantage again their other elf cousins, namely morathi and teclis elves.Also they havnt had any proper model releaes other than pity heroes and underworld which is... not much...
>>98450387I guess nucron haters would say necrons.
>>98450423Damn they got any of them left? That change is fucking ancient. Also isnt there a handwave that some random tomb worlds still act like that? If you want.
>>98450387Thinking over it; Elder probably are. I know a few people irl who seethe over Necron lore, but it's whatever. Every iteration of Necrons was a mixed bag, which is more than I can say about the Eldar. Not that GW treats Xenos well in general, but when compared to Eldar, Orks and Tau (my two xeno faction) are in a much better position.
>>98448985And even if they did, half this general is likely to cry ‘non canon!’ At whatever they put out
>>98450431Surprisingly they hold on as stubbornly as people who still seethe over End Times.
>>98450313>headcanon >b-b-but in 40k Bullshit man, stop regurgitating this shit retard
>>98450215>The squatted threat was never realI disagree, but the discussion is long trite and you most definitely don't sound like the kind of person who is open to consider the movements gw was doing outside of published material
>>98450431They're rare, but they do show up at times and can be very loud when they do. And yeah, the handwave is that some tomb worlds basically just have broken programming and still act like that.To be honest, it was a bit of an overdue change since beforehand, Necrons and Tyranids had a MASSIVE amount of thematic overlap. To the point that necrons could be described as "Metal Skeleton tyranids" and nids as "Organic bug necrons"
>>98450460They basically just do so right here >>98450451by discarding the moves that they were making in another of GW's games that feature Slaanesh.
>>98450440Eldar fuckin' deserve it IMOThey spent over a decade as the pet army of one of the prominent people at GW, and even though that influence has waned, they still get more than they deserve at times.
>>98450460>outside of published materialexactly you just need to use common sense and think outside the box back then everyone knew slaanesh was getting squatted 100% it was in the air you could feel it. my friend wanted to collect slaanesh chaos warriors and I distinctly remember he told me it came to him in a dream that they wouldn't make it to AoS and the tears in his eyes were real
>>98450450>>98450471Im still an end time hater ill be honest. but I do agree that the necron change was for the best. I actually recall old necrons since my intro to the hobby was dawn of war back in the day. They were pretty boring.
>>98450482That's the core book of 1st edition. The first and only material back then. Where does the MIA come from that predates it? The earlier section in the same book?
>>98450496Not him but I am surprised slanessh wasnt getting squatted. It feels like for a hot min they might have been trying to push the age of their lines lower. And if any faction is gonna get mom and dad upset its slanesh. Then GW remebered the hobby is not only expensive but few kids are gonna play the tabletop even if it wasnt.
>>98450313qrd on 40k I wholly believe Slaanesh was getting squatted because Archaon lacks a head and warhammer was going PG i dont even think slaanesh was playable until after soul wars
>>98450387Dark Eldar. They're even closer to the Idoneth of 40k because they actually are
I remember 40k leakers confirming slaanesh was leaving and novels were building up to it. It ruffled some feathers when they retconned the novels because black library is so foundational to lore
>>98450524They are less of a joke in a lore and have good books, unlike Eldar.
>>98450524>tfw I collect both…and Grey KnightsAt least I can fall back on my LRL without tainting them, too. Right?
>>98450166>They'll quietly abandon the Age of Sigmar branding about six months into 5th/The Last WorldThey're not going to have two fantasy lines, one named "the old world" and one named "the last world". No way the AoS branding is going.This is not an end times, it's a gathering storm
what else is known about the true plans for AoS? kragnos was a BoC refresh. Slaanesh was gone. Malerion was a chaos god. Bretonnia was to be merged with Empire instead of the CoS we got.
>>98450548The last world would be the box name like skaventide if anything
>>98450553Pretty much, at most is we'll get something like Soul Wars.
>>98450549>kragnos was a BoC refresh.no, he wasn't, that one was always a massive fuckup entirely of gw's own lack of direction regarding destruction
>>98450578it's all but confirmed if you look into it gw don't have to publish that they intended to for it to be obvious
>>98450398You say that, but yes. Literally no one is going to make it to the core of Slaanesh's domain to be able to get it. Much less fight and kill a Chaos god.
>>98450601except anyone seeking to kill him more proof they intended to purge him from both settings
>>98450600>it's all but confirmed if you look into itno, it isn't, on the contrary we have confirmation that wasn't the case
>>98450635he's literally a centaur with the same face as the beastmen age of sigmar got
>>98450634>except anyone seeking to kill himLiterally who could manage that? Sigmar himself couldn't since he's basically even with Archaon.
>>98450653eldar were about to malerion was confirmed to in leaked dramatis personae before age of sigmar came out everyone knew bro you can find hundreds of posts about it
tbqh I'd be okay with them squatting Slaanesh I just don't want the GHR taking his place. Furries are obnoxious enough as it is.
Shouldn't the end of edition narrative start soonish? Do you think last world is still happening? If yes, will the transition be bruteforced or properly written?
>>98450553That's what I think too. Either that or the 'era of the beast' or 'sigmar lied' of 5th
>>98450736Personally I think it's all a bunch of larp blown out of proportion by bad actors and is probably way less dramatic than described but we won't know until it happens
>>98450762BR Morathi was November 2020 (2021 was 3rd)Dawnbringers Harbingers was July 2023 (4th was 2024)So yeah soon
>>98450790there's still the khazalid holds battletome that needs to come out before the end of edition narrative
>>98450796Nah, that'll be part of it - launched alongside it like LRL or CoS was
>>98450716if you had suggested this in 1st edition maybe. but the new hedonites visual direction and model range is legit worth saving, its one of the best in the game even if its not my personal taste
>>98450807FEC was in-between Dawnbringers too
>>98450644He looks nothing like any of the AoS beastmen.>inb4 theridonsThe ogroids predate kragnos and the whole boc squatting drama by multiple years via the thaumaturge"They look alike" is not "all but confirmed"
>>98450644no, no beastman in aos has his faceogroids aren't beastmenogroids weren't repurposed minotaurs
>>98449430It's still japanese, so too close to oni. I wanted to do ogors who love gold but are too stupid to know that they have just a lot of pyrite but it doesn't fit that well with new lore
>>98450817They can stay but Nurgle should be squatted to TOW
>>98449518Cool base
>>98450716the rat would have never been the replacement in any case, he is an exception and will never truly sit at the same level as the dark gods
>>98450844>predate kragnosexactly. he was modeled in the style of the ogroids because they were all meant to be part of the same army. the same way entire armies end up modeled after some earlier released 1 off like an underworlds bandif kragnos was really meant to have nothing to do with beasts of chaos or the ogroids he wouldnt have ended up looking almost 1 to 1 exactly like them. he also has spines similar to what you see on other chaos models and chaos has since gotten additional centaursthere was definitely something planned at some point during production that got scrapped when old world decided it was taking beasts behind the scenes and they canceled the upcoming beasts refresh that was hinted at by the refreshed beastlord, terrain, endless spells, and now god-gor popping up in all sorts of armies
>>98450853you forgot tzeentch
>>98450853okay now you're just fishing for (you)'s. nobody can actually hold an opinion that bad
>>98450866You're just retarded
>>98450870*GW forgot Tzeentch
>>98450884He accepts your concession.
>>98450866it's guaranteed based on the movements gw was doing outside of published material
>>98450866jfc they're all hooved
>>98450866...but crucially, ogroids are NOT beasts of chaos?>and now god-gor popping up in all sorts of armiesSlaangor and the million tzaangor variants predate third edition, and since then we've only gotten pestigors. It's not exactly like the gor floodgates have been opened.
>>98450866I think KB were chaos orcs originally instead actually they'd be part of BoC hence Kragnos
>>98450866the first ogroid was from silver tower, it was never a beastmen even back thenthe undivided one got done for warcry, that's a completely separate pipeline of releases, at a completely different time, and it was already just a STD unit, not a beastmen one, and that was before your alleged shift in plans happened.you have this same delusional rambling every single time.
>>98450902Also the god aligned gors have technically existed in both AoS and Fantasy for AGES. They used to have models in fantasy, but they got squatted, and relegated to existing in the background. When AoS started, they carried that bit of fluff through, but decided to actually start making god aligned beasts again for whatever reason.
>>98450508I think gw was planning to write slaanesh out of their games at some point, but it must've been stopped in development probably pretty close to AoS' launch. There's just a bunch of really odd stuff between the malerion chaos symbol, varanguard options, dorghar, etc for something not to be going on. Plus the 40k ynnari shit launching at about the same time.
>>98450914>was never a beastmen even back thenActually the only fluff we got was that it lead Tzaangor lmao go read the fluff book
>>98450914this in no way contradicts what i just said. the ogroid came first, and a later wave of kragnos and beastmen used that as a jumping off point for a new design that was cancelledim not delusional. you guys keep looking at 2+2 and trying to tell me its 5
>>98447311I got a huge boner when that Daemonsmith had her eating bugs out of the toilet in her newer book
>>98450922Of course it leads tzaangors bruh it's tzeentch what else is it gonna lead?
>>98450940Yeah, the beastial minotaur obviously leads Beastmen I believe if we got undivided ogroids they'd lead something that isn't beastmen
>>98450930>short pointy ears>similar beard with circular clasp>earrings>horns with growth rings>same face proportions, expression and sharp teeth>mowhawk that runs down the back into a mane>two large horns and two side hornsone or two features could be a coincidence but these guys are all clearly drawing from the same design document, they just tick too many boxes. armor can be changed in zbrush easily enough as it would be separate geometry on an additional subtool but facial anatomy and features like hair which are meant to blend near the skin would be harder to change later on requiring a full resculpt which is why so much of that DNA remains
>>98450930kragnos is 100% a beastman with bronze age tacky shit thrown in replacing the chaos iconography >b-b-but he has a little optional totem for Kruleboyz lmao he clearly was supposed to stand on a herdstone too and we know broken realms was messed with given 1) Excelsis and Gordrakk's plot getting abandoned 2) Broken Realms Alarielle cancelled 3) Thondia explicitly followed the beastman that got unique art for Broken Realms
>>98450930>the ogroid came first, and a later wave of kragnos and beastmen used that as a jumping off point>and beastmenYou're making a pretty big fucking jump there, based on very little. Kragnos being based on the ogroids? Sure.Ogroids actually not being ogroids at all but beastmen, somehow (?)Not so much
>>984509674) GW don't commission art for original things This is an unreleased model 100%
>>98450971ogroids were a destruction army and beastmen were to be rolled into them everyone knows BoC were getting reclassified as destruction
>>98450971its based on literally the only concrete thing in warhammer. model design. everything else, lore, rules, current army organization, all is downstream of model design and art design in production and also highly fungible. the only thing you can really trust for answers from GW are what is committed to plastic, everything else could be a diversion, a changed story, a corporate line, etc
>>98450992>ogroids were a destruction army and beastmen were to be rolled into them...except for the part where ogroids have always been chaos?Seriously what's the timeline here.The thaumaturge releases all the way back in 2016 (!)Then we get the myrmidon in february 2020Kragnos comes out in june 2021Theridon come out in november 2022Like at what part of the timeline where ogroids supposed to be morphed into beastmen or whatever the fuck is the idea here?
>>98451011What model design indicates to you that they were making new beastmen based off the ogroids? Because every other beastmen released for AoS, before or since, looks nothing like them. Even ghorraghai's art (which might have an unreleased model, though the actual box does come with a shaman which is supposed to be him) looks nothing like the ogroids.I can see a connection between kragnos and the ogroids based on the models. I don't see a connection between the ogroids and BoC.
>>98451030>>98450992just a heads up, as the kragnos/ogroids combo army conspiracy guy, the ogroids were a destruction army claim is somebody else and not something i subscribe to. i think kragnos was meant to be chaos, given away by the fact that he has spines bursting from his flesh and got sent to destruction when they couldnt figure out what to do with him and destruction needed a nagash/archaon style army universal centerpiece
>>98451044i think the ogroids were meant as the replacement for bullgors. bullgors were gonna get the squat and ogroids would take their place, hence their almost identical size and eventual weapon loadouts and natural weapons
>>98450973It's literally just a bray shaman.
>>98451055How does that square with them looking identical to the earlier myrmidon released in 2020?Based on >>98451030 I can't come up with a point in the timeline where randomly they decided to make beastmen in the style of ogroids but then also abandon that idea midway.
>>98451030Ogroids always had fluff stating they're corrupted destruction beastmen thoughbeit
>>98451088BoC were merged with StD by the time Warcry happened but it would be a Darkoath style subfaction including Kragnos They scrapped that but kept the Theridons and gave Kragnos to Destruction who needed something big after Fimir were cancelled
>>98450076>>98448075>>98448196>>98448204I hate how predictable GW art has gotten these days. >Fish eye lens for action in the piece, usually wrapping up the sides>Every character in the piece looks exactly like it is in the box>Cant the entire piece about 10 degrees to the right or left.
>>98451120>Ogroids always had fluff stating they're corrupted destructionYes exactly thank you>beastmenLol no, they're their own race
>>98451215men beasts
>>98451218Goroa, to be exact
>>98451088the timeline is something probably like2010s whfb----beastment sell like shit and the models are old, lets start playing around with ideassilver tower--ogroid comes out as a twist on the classic minotaur conceptthey like the ogroid so they play around with it some moresometime probably late 1st or early 2nd edition---early design work behind the scenes to incorporate the ogroid ideas into chaos to breathe some life into the stagnant beasts range. several other mythical beasts added alongside the minotaur concept such as the cyclops and the sphinxmid 2nd edition---news hits behind the scenes that beasts are getting sent to a new project called the old world and specialist studios has laid claims to all their plastics, and the army is being removed from aos, so parts of this upcoming refreshes works in progress start to get redirected, and a few kits like the beastlord and the endless spells are let out into current beasts of chaos just to get what money they can from them, despite knowing the army wont lastthe god-gor are less clear and i think since those were likely a dual army unit (because back then it was okay for things to exist in more than one army) they were less concretely anchored to this project, but still would have been a part of it. it may also be the case that that darkoath demon thing the wilderfiend may have been involved, it too has some similarities in its 4 prominent horn structure and its general proportions somewhat match an ogroid or a beast model, but im much less invested in that opinion, it may well have been later and just invented whole cloth for darkoathi dont have specific years for everything in the timeline because its been a decade since half this shit happened and im not going to track the exact day every model released for a company that doesnt make that information easily searchable anyways. so treat the above dates and timelines as vague approximations, not gospel facts
>>98451239The myrmidon came out like 2 months after the tow announcement, which itself seemed quite hasty given that it took them four more years to actually bring out the game. Way too early for it to get repurposed from a potential beastman to another ogroid. Also, if beasts were claimed by the tow team all the way in 2019 why the fuck did this cause problems for 3rd edition's EoE narrative all the way in late 2024? I think that actually puts the decision to move beasts at like 2022 at the very earliest, any earlier and they could simply rewrite the dawnbringers bullshit involving all the attention on beasts of chaos. Which obviously is years AFTER kragnos, so why was he repurposed from BoC in the first place?Idk the longer you look into the theory the more it starts to look like a house of cards. The dates just don't make sense for it to be true.
>>98451340you seem to be confusing the old world announcement publicly with when the team would have found out about it behind closed doors, which would have been years earlier
>>98451385I think the the announcement was rushed out of the gate somewhat, possibly because of kings if war, and it can't have been in internal discussion for very long. Certainly not long enough to decide shit like who will get exclusive dibs on what faction. Also, again, pushing back the date on this only further begs the question on why 3rd edition's beastmen narrative was such a mess all these years later.
>>98447173Someone answer this question of mine?
>>98451705Gargants are that army.They aren't fun to play, it's a pure DOS check army.If they can mathematically kill a mega a turn, they win, no questions asked.If they can't, you win. You can math it out when you look at each other's list.Plus the models look samey, and unfortunately it's samey if a shit design (no one likes olde English giants).So if your goal is to make people not want to play you, play Gargants. Good luck reselling them
Red pill me on the cult of the wheel
>>98451900Wheels isn't for carrying us, wes is for carrying wheels! The mysteriously unaging woman on the palanquin said so!
>>98451900
>>98451173God, Underworlds is dying (GWS cancelled all the latest tournaments) and Warcry is being kept on life support.
>>98452149I'm not surprised. Underworlds gameplay was already badly balanced from from the very beginning, but it had nice drawn art (gone now, replaced with generic garbage) and cheaply priced boxes (both starters and band boxes) making it very accessible to both existing AoS players and those from outside of GW ecosystem. But over the years they've inflated the price at insane rates where only people willing to buy are a small dedicated playerbase, not to mention insanely short fomo rotations as well. But hey, glad enough outcry brought Warcry from being dead to being placed on life-support.
So the warhammer hero box sets wont get an exclusive announcement, they'll just be released whenever. I guess I'll have to pay attention to target because I think thats just about the only other place they would sell them in the us.
How in absolute fuck is that retard still posting his disproven headcanons about some ogroid conspiracy?Newsflash: Ogroids came with the fucking Tzaangors, Tzaangors were added to beastmen, ogroids weren't. GW doesn't consider them related
>>98452250>Tzaangors were added to beastmen,Damn. Now I wish Beast of chaos were still an army.
>>98452222They'll be Jap exclusive anyway
>>98452250>disprovenyou havent disproven shit. meanwhile my proof is in the plastic. im sorry it assblasts you to know that kraggy wasnt meant for your retarded orruks and grots to be lead by some large centaur man covered in spike mutations, you cant bear the thought that ol' vincy might not be being straight with you or may have been misled himself so the curtain isnt publicly pulled back on the company sausage grinder
>>98452269There is a listing for them on a uk shop already.
>>98452274>
>>98452305Is there a reason why ogroids and Minotaurs have that strange Mohawk thing It feels pointless.
I didn’t mean to reply to that
>>98452321Huge muscle necks felt empty i guess. It also fits nicely to fill the vid between horns
>>98452321Its a cow thing. Some breeds of cattle have like a...mane.
>>98449778
Has there been any news or rumors on what’s next? Fatboy refresh was the last thing I remember seeing, and those are in stores now.
>>98452457Mancrusher sprue leaked
>>98452425Kek
>>98452274>8 pointed star >shows a star with 7 pointsWhat did he mean by this?
>>98452196The thing is some underworlds tournaments were sold out So there was attendance but despite that GWS cancelled it.At this point it is hard to not speculate that someone is sabotaging GWS from the inside.>>98452222Last time they had warcry rules for the minis, now that Spearhead is a thing I wouldn't be surprised if they made the minis part of a new spearhead (together with another CoS kit).
>>98452871The shaft is a point?
Reminder this is how you played Nighthaunt in 1e
>same bestial features >same bestial mohawk>same bestial horns>same ugly face>same spikes on body>same circular trinkets >8 pointed bowgUyS, kRaGnOs WaS aN eLf?!
>>98452925>shows images where the shaft isn't a point
>>98452935He might be interesting if Kragnos was a elf instead of a drogkuh that will never see the light of day
>>98452932
>>98452942I didn’t realize it but I guess Aos has changed how the font looks huh
>>98452935The snarling animal face is a little different from an elf
>>98452958They've gone through a few changes
>>98452971Don't be daft, they're like peas in a pod, the only difference is that the elf isn't currently snarling.
>>98452986>kragnos and elf are both redheads, while the other guy isn'tCase closed.
>>98452986You don't have to Photoshop ogroids thoughbeit
>>98452986No facial hair Long nose Lower regular placed ears No snarling mouth You're retarded
>>98452993>>98452996Cope dimwit. It's basic stuff
>>98452986Kek
Your pity hero, lizards
>>98453072alright this is the funniest one yet
>>98453072Feels oddly textureless
>>98453072I’m thinking this is for kill team
>>98453088>kill team coatlsthis exodite stuff is getting out of hand
>>98453082It's probably very small.
>>98453072Why is lil noodlebirb flying upside down?
>>98453291I think they flipped the photo
>>98453291It's dead
>>98453082It's identical to the one on the slann base, they're small little critters.
>>98453072>>98453367Watch it be a very late RE for Slann that got lost somehow
>>98453442the snake on the new image has its mouth closed and a different paintjob, it ain't it
Fresh booleslop in relation to the new RE nothing we didn't already know desu
>>98453494holy shit the way he writes is so fucking obnoxious
>>98453494I think this is the first time we’ve seen Boole mention orruks
>>98453494So, skink hero on coatl for the tome and skink hero on great pteron for the final campaign?What's that about the claw of gork? gordrakk? is he getting shit done at last?
>>98453494hell yeah, it's all coming together
>>98450046AOS game design has been near deaf to player feedback since 3rd edition, most of the decisions they've been making feel internally driven, rather than being based on what consumers think. It's got a very old GW bad old days vibe to it.
>>98453552wait a minute yeah, I didn't even catch that the coatl rider is supposed to be a different skink.So, two characters? One, tetaxi, a new skink priest, and then this new prophesied coatl-rider?Gotta say I hope there's a generic variant for the coatl rider
>>98453552>>98453557it's still the same character>What manner of creature is [——]?>Indeed — Tetaxi insists that his companion belongs to a unique and singular species. The Feathered Serpent's favoured Ripperdactyls and Terradons are formidable beasts in their own right, yet their intimate, fated connection drew them inescapably towards the Eye of Tepok.>So you mean to say, that creature, though named Ripperdactyl, is in truth more akin to a Coatl?>Perchance, that is indeed a Coatl…
>>98453568Shit makes no sense if it's the same character.
>>98453568it's weird because supposedly tetaxi had a prophecy after which "a lone skink was sent" which implies it's a different guy? But then afterwards tetaxi is clearly talking about "his" coatlesl nonsense
I swear to god if the skink is on a "coatl" only out of a technicality because he's on a quetzalcoatlus...
>>98453600FUUUUUUCK
>>98453607Why is he crying sperm?
>>98453616it's racist to expect all lizards to cry blood just because the horned lizards doand he's blessed by sobek
>Seraphon need a range expansion more than most factions>Just get another pity herolmao
>>98453641When was the last time they got a pity hero?
>>98453641Got one last edition
>>98453494boole hasn't gotten anything right
>>98453641>>Seraphon need a range expansion more than most factionsNot really, they're in a very comfortable situation with both up to date plastics kits, older kits that have aged wonderfully, and enough variety in units to feel like a complete roster.The only things that are truly lacking are saurus guards, as the old kit sticks out like a sore thumb, special characters that aren't the xboxhueg kroak, and spellsReplacing skinks and the stegadon, or some other completely new units are very low in priority, hell, even saurus guards arguably could get skipped and just squatted instead of updated, since warriors themselves got finer-looking gear and shields and could easily steal the bodyguard rules for game purposes.
>>98453641>range expansionBut they have one of the most complete and solid ranges in AoS? All they really need is a couple refreshes like Temple Guard, Skinks and arguably some of the older dinos like Bastiladon and Stegadon.
>>98453494>>98453552>What's that about the claw of gork? gordrakk? is he getting shit done at last?gordrakk is getting cucked it seems
>>98453663the bastiladon isn't old, he's just ugly
>>98453641>>Seraphon need a range expansion more than most factionsWhat? They're like 15th in line.All they really "need" is refreshed saurus guard and skinks, everything else is just an extra.All that being said, I always prefer new units over new named characters.
>>98453675that's terrible but also kind of hilariousdestruction truly is the jobber cuck GA
>>98453675I can’t help but laugh.
>>98453679They added him when i wasn't playing so he's non-canon to me
>>98453751Based schizo
>Skinks>Engine of the Gods / Stegadon>Bastilodon>Spawn of Chotec>Saurus Guard / Oldblood>Carnosaur>RepperdactylThese models are all in desperate need of a refresh. I can't think of another range that has this many ancient figs.
>>98453773They all still look perfectly fine except the Saurus Guard and Old Blood.
>>98453795ok? Fine is still worse than nearly every other faction except BoK or NH maybe. I just looked at every faction's models and Seraphon's stick out like a sore thumb compared to the rest, especially now that Ogres are refreshed.
>>98453825Eh, it’s not as bad boks.
>>98453773You're dumb.
>>98453773>spawn of chotec >carnosaurLolAlso "desperate need of a refresh" only applies to really the skinks and saurus guard. And even then the skinks hold up well for their age.Not every aging model is in "desparate need of a refresh" just because gw could make a newer (more expensive) version now. Stega and basti are older, yes, but function perfectly well.Also ripperdactyls are just ugly it's not really a matter of age. The terradon alt buld holds up totally fine.
>>98453675Can I cope about gordrakk not getting cucked but just getting friends?
>>98453773you're in desperate need of an optometrist
>>98453861We should assume the worst.
>boole mentions old enemies to lovers trope I swear to god if sigmar allies with the undead again
>>98453773>>Spawn of Chotec>>in desperate need of a refresh
>>98453773I dunno anon, Skinks and Saurus Guard I'd agree on, all the others are fine imho
>>98453675I just wanted to know shit about the skink!
>>98453494>>98453675Ages ago Whitefang was hinting at Greenskinz coming back People presumed he was joking but huh I guess this is it (wyvern)
>>98453918but this is not a third group of orcs, it's just more of the gorky ironjaws side
>>98453886It's Destruction + Stormcast
>>98453923And? Greenskinz had a wyvern, this Orc has a wyvern? That's it. Whitefang hinted at Swifthawk and Greenskinz returning not being so farfetched or something. That's a core part of what was Greenskinz returning and it could be just that
>>98453930>And?and a wyvern getting handed to ironjaws is not "greenskins returning"
>>98453937Right, I'm sorry I forget I'm amongst autists >a design element essentially Greenskinz is returning I'm not whitefang, faggot, he said it.
>>98453947whitefang is wrong
>>98453947a wyvern is not "a design element essentially Greenskinz" either
>>98453957which AoS army had a wyvern?
Wyvern is too vague anyways, he probably means a dragon.
>>98453960…do we want to get into the old zombie dragon debacle?
>thinks this means we're getting an orruk on wyvern Typical rumoursloppa misunderstanding
>>98453912My god, what an annoying rumor monger. At least whitefang has the decency to like or comment quite directly on posts that have at least 1 upcoming thing correct.
it's 100% a bonesplitter on stardrake
>>98453982why do you think this means we're getting anything specific?
>>98453960bonesplitters and ironjaws
>>98453993I don't, except the boole post references a wyvern so perhaps that's what he meant - that we get a Megaboss on something that looks more like a wyvern than the maw krusha
>>98453994They did this artist dirty man Squatted all that shit
>>98453999wyverns don't mean greenskins returning. That means we're getting ironjaws wyverns greenskins are a different race of orruk and a totally different army than ironjaws
>>98453999>so perhaps that's what he meantor it was a predictably pointless "never say never" with no specific rumor in mind
>>98454023Yeah? The post mentions three squatted armies and the chain references a fourth retard
>Ironjawz get a wyvern ahhh... right after nurgle get chaos trolls and grell replaces her arm with a cannon I presume? ironjawz will NOT get a wyvern
>>98453861I admire the copium
>>98454036That doesn't make it a rumor
>>98453960Anon, in this context greenskinz refers specifically to "normal" orcs, ie of the non ironjawz / savage / kruleboyz variety
>>98454072newfag
why is it so upsetting that ironjawz might get something like wyvern?
I find it absolutely adorable that people think Boole is anything but an attention whore and proven liar.
>>98454107absolutely he has gotten nothing wrong beyond cogforts which everyone guessed since broken realms and the wh+ show
>>98454116*right!he's always wrong
>>98454100I think in this context people are just confused as to why we're introducing a new ironjawz "claw of gork" character on a wyvern ...when we already have an ironjawz "fist of gork" charachter on a wyvern
I will kill myself if greenskins return we have to purge everything related to WHF or it's as if they've won
>>98454116>>98454122Not to mention his breakdown and mass deletion after the claims of The Last World. People are desperately grasping at straws by believing each and every bit of crazy rumor he drops. Eceleb nonsense is a blight.
Where are my ironjawz leadbelchers?Where is my ironjawz rogue idol?Where is my warchanta/shaman on rogue idol?Where is my gore grunta refresh I was promised these in my schizo induced hallucinations
>>98454092Not everything your messiah says is a rumor.
>>98454146And he said Warhammer Quest came with Plague Troggoths but we got the Cankerborn who are just large Plaguebearers with rocks growing of their back
I just want Ironjawz with warbows or crosssbows. Guns would be acceptable of course, but only if they worked both visually and in lore.
>>98454127Yeah, it's hard to read it as anything except pushing aside the established faction leader for a new shiny character. Which, I mean...it can happen. If anything Gordrakk is lucky that he has model protection, otherwise getting murdered off-screen isn't entirely off the table. (Could still happen, technically, since he's just a barely recognizable alt build of a generic model.)
>>98453912Fuck this faggot
>>98454155for me it's an Ardboy BSB and Ardboy Boarboys
>>98432657holy shit anon was a prophet
>>98453912>>98453675>>98453494I hate this lying faggot Is everyone forgetting Grell the amputee with a giant cannon making up half her body? Instead we got an amputee holding a giant cannon as big as her body
>>98453494Fucking faggot
>>98454173But the booleshit points to a giant monster, not a smaller basic cavalry version.Unless your bet is on the name alone.
>gorkamorka - gork and mork >he has two hands: fist of gork and hand of mork and we're supposed to believe this liar that suddenly there's a third "claw"? what's next? Feet?!
>>98454219unless gork and mork individually get 2 hands each >>98453861
>>98454219His penis.The queers/trannys that make up the most vocal of AoS fans will go crazy for it.They might even be able to purchase it if they go without meds for a month or two
>>98454107>>98454146>>98454162do we have to go over this shit every fucking time? yes boole is an attentionwhore, yes he's a retard who gets specifics wrong, but on the whole he's trustworthy enough to the point where you can be reasonably certain whatever miniature he's talking about will come to the game in some form. >>98454219gobsprakk is the mouth of mork
>>98454219I read Feet as Fent and imagined Weirdboy Floyd. Kek.
>>98454100Ironjawz already have a wyvern retard.
>>98453861Alternatively, let Gordrakk die becoming a generic warscroll but have him ascend to a spirit of Waaagh energy that inhabits a rogue idol
>>98454100You know the guy that makes up half of our bingo card? Yeah, he's got an autistic thing for greenskins.
Godeater fanboys about to eat
>>98454267Are they giving him a mini yet?
>>98454262There is a bingo card?
>>98454279today we've gotten >kragnos is part of a cancelled beastman refresh >GW would never reference past models so we just need some goblin phrenology and sylvaneth etymology discussions to get a bingo
>>98454298>>kragnos is part of a cancelled beastman refreshImpressively still one of the most retarded things I have heard on 4chan in a very long time. That is even after the occasional foray into /x/ and /b/ as well.
>>98454267The fuck, where?
>>98454329The thing with kragnos = BoC is that it rests on two oddities, that, on their own, are pretty interesting:1) kragnos looks like an ogroid2) some weird shit was going down with beastmen in 3rd editionThe problem is that for kragnos = boc to work you need to connect both these oddities, but as we've seen earlier in the thread the timeline makes this impossibleSo all we're left with is some schizo going "but he looks like an ogroid!" every once in a while
>>98454352It's layered on theories that ogroids were replacing beastmen and beastmen were getting souped with StDThat honest wargamer fag actually "leaked" the merger too, though ofc he's full of shit So Kragnos looking like an ogroid suggests ogroids were getting fleshed out with that line of thought and I guess split after the merger? iirc it's entirely based on people being cunts about BoC (well, I don't like them so I'd be glad if they got squatted) and Warcry - both the ogroid, other beasts, and the one off Gor in a warband
>>98454382There was never any theory that ogroids were replacing beastmen.
>>98454421Google it mate, I'm not spoonfeeding newfags
>>98454335Some leak i saw on X. That and some anthology book of old stories coming for AoS
>>98454427There's no google result that points out to a theory about ogroids replacing beastmen.
>>98454352>kragnos looks like an ogroidAnd ogroid are famously a corrupted Destruction race unrelated to Beast of Chaos
>>98454267Oh shit a new book? It’s been a while since I had an excuse to buy one, think I’ll pick this up if it’s true.
>>98454445clearly, ogroids, drogrukhs and dragon ogres belong to the same clade
>>98454445Well yeah exactly, which is why even if you were to prove the ogroid similarities are intentional, that still doesn't mean he or they were meant for boc.
>>98454490they're chaos beast men, I don't think it matters if they have continuity with WHF fluff we have minotaurs in StD and we lost minotaurs in BoC
>>98454505The only chaos beast men STD's got is darkoath niggers.
>>98454505Be that is it may, they're explicitely their own thing
>>98454505if they are a replacement for anything, it's a replacement for chaos ogres and chaos trolls
>>98454581I do wish we'd get chaos trolls backchaos ogres can be achieved by just making some universal ogre RoR's, like with megas
>>98454543For sure
Whatever this is I hope it comes with KB dual build. Like a swamp drake from the lore
>>98454621>I do wish we'd get chaos trolls backEh I could take em or leave em
>>98454655It won't, drown your dreams in a swamp
>>98454655WD said they have swamp wyverns and mire drakes but it sounds like a big named hero
>>98454740Maybe a dual building with an option to go as a non-hero>>98454701I swear to God, if HoH gets their new unit wave before KB I'm joining Canadian/Indian dustposter
>>98454768the shame of dominion hangs around the necks of KB like a millstone
>>98454267>>98454335Oh shit it's actually real.https://www.kobo.com/se/sv/ebook/blood-of-the-godeater?srsltid=AfmBOopJxT7s12FTkz4uqTsa3zaQHnEw6oabMmBVGx7lfmmBlxxWUwuV
>>98454820>A Warhammer Age of Sigmar Novel>Now a powerful Chaos Lord, Heldanarr Fall fights to protect his throne from rivals in the face of rumours of the forces of Order closing in. In the midst of this turmoil, he finds new purpose in two orphaned children.>READ IT BECAUSE>It's another fascinating look into the motivations of a once-noble warrior who has fallen to Chaos, with insight into what that means on a human level.>THE STORY>Heldanarr Fall has nothing to live for. He has conquered the Burning Valley and bent its people to his will. Yet even as a Chaos Lord, he must kneel to a god of bloodshed who demands endless war. Then, in the ruins of a siege, he finds two children. Helpless. Innocent. Worth protecting. For the first time since his rise to power, Heldanarr sees a future worth fighting for the chance to make a better world.>But enemies are closing in. Rivals circle his throne like crows, and omens whisper of Hammerhal's legions on the march. To defend what is his, he must call upon the power of Khorne. But the Lord of Skulls is not generous, and the price of his gifts may be precisely what Heldanarr Fall is determined to save.>Written by Noah Van Nguyen.
>>98454820Genuine wonder that this guy hasn't been a black library model release yet. Fairly beloved character with a pre-existing unique design for one of the most popular factions in the game. As far as black library models go, it's a slam dunk and far better than what they're usually working with.
>>98454768Do they really need much more or are they just feeling cramped in the warclans book?Because if you give them their underworlds and limited characters and add hounds and fimir they end up a perfectly rounded roster.
>>98454820>>98454823Well that’s nice. Been looking for an excuse to re-read god eaters son.
>>98454970I would say that they have enough heroes (like every toher faction) but they lack non-hero option. They have a whole AoR (and lore) about monsters and yet they don't have normal monsters or even beasts. They live in a difficult terrain, where their small legs should stop them from moving and yet they have to mounts or transport for their troops.They have clear gaps
>>98455033I can live with KB leader being a generic shaman in a coat of paint or the guy who should have been the leader being so dogshit that he costs less than a generic. I accept that much superior 3e BoC rules lies unused while we have an Ok ruleset, an upgrade from what we hadBut Kruleboyz deserve units that much their character, theme and lore
>>98454970I think that they really just need a cavalry/beast pack unit of some kind like those dogs
>>98454970perfectly rounded is a bit much, they've got idoneth syndrome where half their range is monster centrepieces but with very little "normal units" to go along them. They've only really got gutrippaz, hobgrots (fugly) and the killbows.I think the warcry warband is a band-aid, and one that imo doesn't really work aesthetically. Some cavalry and yeah a big three man "monstrous infantry" unit would be nice.
>>98455230>>98455230>>98455230
>>98455199>perfectly rounded is a bit muchif this was Warhammer fantasy I'd have said that a range can't feel complete until it has both light cavalry/hounds and heavy cavalry, as well as an elite infantry to add to the normal infantrybut this isn't warhammer fantasy
