I'm sick and tired of "safe" ttrpg content. I want hot girls and hot guys, and gore and blood, and evil fucked up shit to fight against and stop. I want EDGE and SEX. Above all, I want ttrpgs to stop being PG. It should be intense and brutal and hot.But for some reason every major publisher chose Solution A here instead of Solution B. Why is horny art bad now?
You have a containment thread.You should stay in it.
>>98451007Everyone should hear my complaints. The change to ttrpg artwork is awful and I will whine about it forever.
>>98450979based and good tastefantasy should be more REH than Tolkien
Daring today are we
>>98450979just make the women in your game naked, problem solved. going further than that, theres not a reason for women to be wearing armor anyway chainmail bikini or otherwise. women should be loot and then camp followers
>>98450979Some games still do sex and edge even nowadays, like World of Darkness or Cyberpunk. It's baked into the setting and supported by gameplay mechanics.
>>98450979Solution a only makes sense.
>>98451276Solution B makes sense when you understand the freedom fantasy offers.
>>98450979This sounds about right. A game for everyone is a game for no-one.
>>98451306Freedom to have solution a
>>98450979I make all my villains either wear a bikini (girls) or go shirtless (guys). My players love it.
>>98450979So use Solution B in your games.
>>98450979There are so many games that cater specially to you, but you're not interesting in playing games, you're a culture warrior that's mad d&d (the absolute lowest common denominator corporate slop) isn't catering specifically to you. If you want those games, seek out those games, and then pay money for them so the creators will be inclined to make more shit you like. This isn't complicated you fucking troglodyte.
Solution A in the StreetsSolution B in the Sheets
>>98451864vice versa
>>98450979Just go play WoD, 2/3 of its fanbase are horny sickos. Being in a VtM campaign ran by a dedicated WoD GM made me experience levels of magical realm I didn't think were possible outside of shitposts
>>98450979there has been an increase of fascist puritanism since 2016 that has affected fiction and RPGsone one hand, you have religious puritans (aka the right) trying to ban sex and violence because they think is satanic and if you're not the bitch of their pedo pastor then you worship the devilon the other hand, you have liberal puritans from the left crying about fake representation, racial guilt original sin, saying sex is evil, and patriarchy as the new satanboth groups are essentially fascist authoritarianism looking to enforce censorship over fictional content for their demented and fake political/religious ideology. your only option for survival is going out of this dichotomy
>>98451908let's be grateful for those few that haven't fallen to either side of that shitshow
>>98451908The second one is especially surreal to me because you would THINK the solution to "unequal sexualization" is just to sexualize everybody. Big fat tits for the babes and big fat bulges for the dudes.
>>98450979>Why is horny art bad now?Social media has been taken over by whores who hate any kind of male-targeted sexual content in fiction because it undercuts their profits.
Just play Apocalypse World with non-faggots. It's difficult but can be done.
>>98450979What I'm sick of is played out jokes that were already done to death before retard web comic artist caught wind
>>98451951Watching progressives recreate puritanism from first principles over the last fifteen years has convinced me that it's a biologically hardwired sexual strategy that people just naturally gravitate towards in certain circumstances. It can wear the face of any religion or political ideology but the attraction towards it is rooted deeper than any of those things.
>>98451908Just say Americans are the problem.
>>98450979FATAL
>>98450979I choose the problem. Both "solutions" are incredibly homosexual.
>>98450979Will you fags ever move on from this outdated drama? This hasn't been the norm for more than two decades and you still seething about it.
>>98451908And retards like OP think the first group are their friend just because they also don't like the second.
>>98450979just go play FATAL again
>>98452392That comic has to be way over a decade old by now
>>98451951The thing is that the post-modern feminists genuinely believe that portraying sexualized women in fiction directly causes more rape in real life. It is the consensus in feminist academia despite research on the subject being inconsistent and unrepeatable. (see 2014 study that claims that playing as sexualized female characters in video games MAY increase acceptance of rape and sexual harassment https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26181802/ - vs. newer study that found no provable link between sexualized fictional characters and increase in misogyny - https://www.iflscience.com/sexualized-video-games-not-linked-to-misogynistic-attitudes-study-suggests-64257)
>>98452428He also probably voted for them and is realizing they're not fond of cartoon porn or vidya
>>98452684And yet you keep reposting it despite being irrelevant
The Alleged Problem for me.
>>98451908Right winger here. I like big tiddies and skimpy outfits. I think the right wing problem your describing is more American than you think.
>>98450979>i want rpgs to be sold in plastic wrap and require an ID checkYeah that will do gangbusters, like that titan of the industry Black Dog Games.
>>98450979i choose /d/
>>98450979The issue is that the "alleged problem" is not a problem to begin with, and it needs no "solving".
>>98450979I kinda miss regular bland guys. Hyper sexualised guys just bring in fujo and tranny freaks into my hobby and all of the porn is poorly drawn.
>>98450979Go play Kult and stop kvetching.
>>98452897I'm not op retard, I'm agreeing with you
>>98452922>uuum I'M not like thatFirst time here huh
>>98450979jork it to armored women coward
>>98451825This. Everyone's gay as shit now so slut it up players love that shit.>>98450979Because they need to sell product and Concerned Moms hate titties so they constantly badger companies to be 'responsible'Think the satanic panic but now it's against sexuality because they finally figured out men actually prefer of women want to fuck and be sexually liberated
>>98451908>one one hand, you have religious puritans (aka the right) trying to ban sex and violence because they think is satanic and if you're not the bitch of their pedo pastor then you worship the devil>on the other hand, you have liberal puritans from the left crying about fake representation, racial guilt original sin, saying sex is evil, and patriarchy as the new satanThese are the same people just separated by generation.
>>98451007Why not use your mod powers to delete the thread???
>>98450979>hot girls and hot guys and HOT SEXCan we just like... play the game?
>>98450979Solution B was already in practice when the Alleged Problem began.
>>98452084Modesty and by extension puritanism is a subconscious social defense mechanism designed to protect against the spread of sexually trasmissible diseases (not just STDs, Puritanism proper was born in response to the Plague). Fun fact foot fetishism (along with other non-orifice based fetishes) is also a defense against the spread of disease
>>98453115Straight truth here.
>>98453351>Fun fact foot fetishism (along with other non-orifice based fetishes) is also a defense against the spread of disease.t. Hoof and mouth disease enjoyer.
>>98451908>both groups are essentially fascist authoritarianism looking to enforce censorship over fictional content for their demented and fake political/religious ideologyyes, and fuck them
>>98450979I'm gonna be honest I just don't want to RP anything close to sexual content with a fa/tg/uy.People act like all these considerate consent forms and trigger lists or whatever they want you to do in Le Session Zero are there for woke reasons and partially they are. But part of why GMs embraced them wholeheartedly is that it gives systems a preemptive cringe protection against autistic permavirgins being weird. I'm male and even I get the ick from some of guys trying to make sex jokes when I play outside my friend group.
>>98452084no, it's unique to shit cultures.
>>98453085ironic, lol.
>I'm male and even I get the ickwhat did xhe mean by this
>>98453408>I'm gonna be honest I just don't want to RP anything close to sexual content with a fa/tg/uy.Neither does anyone else that's straight. But that doesn't mean setting art needs to have women in burkas either. It just means you need to do some due diligence in who you choose to spend your time with.
>DUDE its so friggin BASED when the men are just as naked as the women!Can we stop pretending this is true? Naked dudes are gay, I want cool looking guys in armor and sexy ladies to accompany them
>>98454817Sorry but this is /totallygay/, and thus you have become retroactively homosexual just by being here. Your complimentary Conan the Barbarian dakimakura and black dildo will be delivered to you within 3 business days. Thank you for being a sissy homo.
>>98451908Puritanism has always been lefty shit, even before the days of Cromwell, to the Temperance movement, to Christfaggotry, and now with wokefags.Fascist Italy was the first state to allow pornographic films, Nazi Germany had cartoons of naked women in the fucking manuals of tanks, all the old world monarchs loved tits on their paintings and statues, go look at all those marble busts of Venus, and those were just the things they put on public display. Not to mention these guys kept brothels around as legitimate business Now look at the Soviets and China, full on puritan fags just like all socialists. Go to the Temperance movement with its roots in suffrage that banned alcohol, nudity, and brothels. Leftists have always been behind this shit out of their concentrated hatred of all that is good and beautiful in the world, anr now these fucking weasels come along and pretend it wasn't them that were behind it as they make all women in media ugly hags, there isn't a furnace hit enough for what they deserve
>>98454817>>98454957I remember a thread with this (reposted) OP where some anon pointed out how the "solution B" is only surface-level fair, because when men get sexualised in hetero media, they don't wear women's skimpy outfits, they do show skin, but it's about displaying power, not parading in speedos; women want studs, not boytoys.
>>98451148You clearly haven't read the fifth edition.
>>98453408This. The number of players that are only playing to insert their weird fetishes into a game is staggering.
>>98450979>But for some reason every major publisher chose Solution Aif onlyand not with influx of rainbow colored hairstyles
>>98450979I'm sick and tired of coomers. I want gore and blood to ooze out of your broken worthless body after you get beaten 80% to death by a sack full of bricks, and to then enclose what's left of you in an oil drum and bury you alive with just enough of an air supply to keep you conscious until your injuries overcome you, to reflect on your worthless existence in agony for as long as possible.
>>98455571wow thats horrifying, i cant even believe it. omg i wouldnt get a boner. jeez! what else would you do
>>98451908>your only option for survival is... killing everyone on both sides who supports neo-puritanism. They represent an existential threat to humanity, and TTRPGs, regardless of whether they approach from an angle of religion or secularism.I enjoy looking at attractive people in sexy clothing, I'm from Buenos Aires, and I say kill 'em all!
>>98452097>Americans are the problem.My sincere hope is that Russia finally just nukes them. Nothing of value will be lost.
>>98455459I've read enough, ghouling toddlers (which prevents them from ever growing up) is pretty damn edgy, and sex is all over the place, just not so much classic babes and bitches but instead all sorts of queer stuff.
>>98455167"Leftist" is an erroneous term. Recent surface traits- "race," bio sex-, and gender- based identity politics have been propagated and pushed upper left quadrant Left Authoritarians (neolibs/shitlibs). The current Leftists are lower left quadrant, left libertarians, who only care about the class divide (wealthy elite vs. everyone else). It's why the authoritarian faux left/limousine liberals, the self-styled progressives who are all corporate shills, accuse leftists of class reductionism, as if it were equal to racism, sexism, etc.
>>98453348By the time of Conan the Destroyer and Red Sonja in the '80s, they'd already brought in the mannish women like Brigitte Nielsen and Grace Jones (and Sandahl Bergman again), and removed the T & A and sexiness in the '70s comics and fantasy art.
>>98452097>>98455827You thirdies have been desperate for that to happen for decades, and it's farther from a possibility than it ever was. Besides, I thought most of you moved on to worshipping China as the inevitable savior bringing grorious communism to your brown shores? What ever happened to that?
>>98455571Really? You can have my body but you won't break my spirit.
>>98450979>I keep buying corporate products and they keep feeding me slop!>everyone should listen to me whine about a self-inflicted problem!!
>>98455167extremely dishonest postsee: puritans in America
>>98454817this is /tg/ - totally gay, bisexuality is the norm
>>98455167Ah, I see you have read the Tiger tank manual
>>98457416The strain of prudishness that has always run through American culture comes from the Quakers, not the Puritans. The Puritans were actually pro-sex as long as it was within the bounds of marriage, while the Quakers were irrationally uncomfortable with sex in any context and were determined to make this discomfort everyone else's problem.
>>98455167>poltard>has no idea what he's talking aboutkwab
>>98456678>Left Authoritarians (neolibsYou don't know what neoliberalism is>left libertarians, who only care about the class divideAuth left types are the ones most likely to complain about everything that isn't pure class.
>>98450979You use both.Solution A is the general aesthetic.Solution B is the weird high-magic civilization that are plausibly villainous.
>>98456723>What ever happened to that?What is supposed to happen? China continues to do well.
>>98457418This isn't /k/, anon.
>>98456678Leftism is a term created by the French revolution to refer to the amalgamation of ideas that had one common factor, opposition. The eternal revolution. Leftism by its very foundational principles is an eternal struggle session of group morality in order to avoid personal responsibility of their own faults, hence why it is characterized by collective ideology and purity spirals.To normal people a tard is a tard because they are a tard. To the leftist there must be an outside influence because if there isn't they must acknowledge that they are a tard, and thus they must destroy this influence at all costs.This is why you see why the right wing states have long allowed for prostitution, drugs, drinking, gambling and other vices. They were failings of the individual and not their problem, call them degenerates and fence them off. To the leftist, individual responsible cannot exist as a concept therefore society must stop these vices outright before it negatively influences anyone
In my setting all the women are 10/10 smokeshows and all the dudes are chads on Tren+GOMAD
>>98459863Based beyond belief
>>98459851>To the leftist there must be an outside influence because if there isn't they must acknowledge that they are a tard, and thus they must destroy this influence at all costs.Like vaccines
>This is why you see why the right wing states have long allowed for prostitution, drugs, drinking, gambling and other vicesAnd Texas loves loli sure
As was said by many a sagely oldfag...Fap before posting. Sage in all the fields.
>>98450979To be fair. Robert E Howard has done all three.
>>98450979>Why is horny art bad now?Feminism hates things that men like
>>98451908>religious puritans (aka the right)>liberal puritans from the leftGod I love being an American right wing atheist, literally the only thing on Earth it's better to be than like me, is rich.
>>98452922>the right wing problem your describing is more American than you think.It's not American either
>>98453025Fuck off, Batfag. Every one of you "I just want regular non-special dudes" is a Batman faggot who can't help but put Batman in everything. Batman sucks.
>>98454817
>>98451908>>98452922>>98463665It's leftists, karens, and fags in skirts. Remember the left were also crying about tits and ass when they said the right were. I mean Hilary Clinton was one of the main voices about that shit back in the day. However, the left love to cover up their side's shit all the time, and controlling most of the major media networks makes it easy to.As for the "Non-American" groups, it's the same. The left wing groups often are the ones pushing the bills not the right. They just blame the right after they sign it into law. Sadly people will just accept anything they're told often without questioning shit.
>>98455571
>>98456678The distinctions will start mattering when they don't all vote for the same party.
>>98463656Same here. The left are just as bad and often worse then the religious right puritans. (Often they're just useful idiots for the uniparty. The classic wine moms that get tricked into karening whatever the fuck they told is bad.)
>>98454817This. I want scantily clad women next to men in full plate and I do not want any coherent explanation for it
>>98457833I, for one, have way more respect for stalinists than for gender studies majors. They're the hobgoblins to the jerren. You can respect lawful evil, chaotic evil is just sad.
Lower classes engage in survival sex work all the time, both males and females. Low-class males go as far as to crossdress. General these are consentrated around jobs like laundry, taverns, inns, alehouses, bathhouses, tea houses, posads, etc. Most of them are not full-time. It is also often seasonal, concentrating around market fair. This is rampant. Full-time sex workers are a minority, sold by their families, and are usually groomed for years until age 14-15. Those who engage in it are considerated infames (without honour), so rape alegations don't apply to secular courts despite what Canonic church law says. Therefore, sex workers usually go for contract violation and damage to goods charges instead. They are also often forced to wear specific pieces of clothing. Note that despite htat they are no less religious than everyone else and even have a patron saint of prostitutes. Authorities generally either legalice it and tax it, tolerate it, or neglect its persecution either due deliberate neglect, bribes, or economic interest to keep it going. The best clients, and owners are priests and nuns.
>>98450979Am I the only one that thinks girls in full coverage armor except for their pretty face showing is hot?
>>98463844You are not. Armor is usually sexy and screams competence rather than being a poser.
>>98450979The first thing everyone should wear is a HELMET. This is the single most important part of armour. Everything else is negotiable.
>>98454817this. everyone proposing otherwise is a subversive tranny (a few replied to you too, your post enraged them). i'm fine if someone else wants to look at faggy pozzed tranny gay dudes but i DON'T. i want to look at sexy women and nonsexualized men.
>>98463852You do have a point.
>>98463805>General these are consentrated around jobs like laundry, taverns, inns, alehouses, bathhouses, tea houses, posads, etcAlso various nomadic groups - gypsies, musician/theatre troupes, mercenary companies (or rather their camp followers), and ironically enough, some pilgrims (relying on the interpretation that completing a pilgrimage absolves one of their sins, including those committed during the pilgrimage).
>>98450979Where is half-naked pumped off guy and chick in the plate armor, huh?
>>98450979>Why is horny art bad now?Give an example of this other than your sockpuppet
In some aristocratic and libertine male subcultures contracting "the pox" could be joked about or treated as evidence of sexual experience, even though the disease itself remained greatly feared. Methods to cure such diseases were often innefective, useless at best and damaging at worse. They usually involving mercury which often did even more harm than the disease itself. There were was a myth that you can get cured from syphilis if you lay in bed with a virgin. While the myth did not specify a single fixed age, the fundamental requirement was absolute, guaranteed virginity. This led directly to the targeting of prepubescent girls and children, typically under the age of 10 to 12. In 18th-century London, historical analysis of court records found that roughly one in five capital child rape trials involved victims under 10 years old, with defendants repeatedly citing the "virgin cure" as their explicit motivation. Some documented cases involved children as young as 4 or 5. Men sought younger and younger girls because age was viewed as the only guaranteed proof that a female was sexually untouched and therefore "clean" enough to absorb the disease.
>>98463805Also there were high-class prostitutes. Italian Renaissance cortigiane oneste (such as Veronica Franco) were highly literate, published poets and humanists who matched top Japanese oiran or tayu prostitutes in social standing and intellectual prestige.
Herbal abortifacients and birth control methods were messy and dangerous. Usually, they were expensive or unavailable. They were also often heavily criminalized. The problem was that the effective dose was dangerously close to a lethal toxic dose, so there was a high chance of killing the mother as well, often horribly so.Punishments varied a lot. Abortion before "quickening" was often treated as a lesser offence. Depending on the jurisdiction, women and those assisting them might face penance, fines, exile, corporal punishment, or, in the most severe jurisdictions, execution—sometimes by drowning or being buried alive (though this was more common for infanticide than for abortion alone).The most widespread primary forms of birth control were coitus interruptus (withdrawal) and non-penetrative acts, which fell under "sodomy." Infanticide and abandonment were sadly very common, with strangulation often being the preferred method. Some cultures had businesses centered around killing babies. In the 19th century, commercial "baby farming" businesses emerged where individuals were paid to take in unwanted infants, frequently neglecting or killing them for profit ("angel-making") to adopt another one and get paid again.Sometimes unwanted babies were abandoned in the woods, at the doors of rich merchants' houses, at churches, foundling hospitals, and overcrowded almshouses, where infant mortality rates could reach 70–90% in some institutions from dysentery and disease. Institutions like orphanages were founded to reduce abandonment and infanticide.
>>98464596Some high class whores used to be quite intellectual, Madame de Pompadour (mistress of Louis XV) was also friends with Denis Diderot, and lobbied at the king to permit publication of his encyclopedia (which the king otherwise wouldn't allow, because the church and part of aristocracy opposed it).
>>98464593This nasty "virgin cure" myth was so pervasive that Historical analyses of 18th-century London court records (such as the Old Bailey archives) confirm that roughly 20% (1 in 5) of capital child rape trials involved victims under the age of 10 and prominent 18th-century medical writers felt compelled to publish explicit denunciations warning the public against the practice. Today this myth has mutated in Africa for AIDS.
>>98464508>Give an exampleThe last 10 years of the video game industry.
>>98450979Male B, Female A
>>98451276Women should be wearing dresses and no armour
>>98451908>one one hand, you have religious puritans (aka the right) trying to ban sexyes>and violencelol no. US is totally okay with violence in media/society.Mass murder, genocide, children blown to shreds = wow cool, let me post my toddlers getting AR-15s for XmasNipple = OMG Satan worldending threat, protect out Timmy from this poison
>>98450979The "alleged problem" isn't even that anymore. It's everyone wearing leather trenchcoats
>>98466215>It's everyone wearing leather trenchcoatswhich is perfectly appropriate for certain tone of a game
>>98450979Go fap to porn or whatverI come to this board hoping I see something worth reading about Call of Cthuhlu versions 1-7AD&DD&D 3.5, 3.0. 4eDragonn warriorsParanoiaDreadMERPWFRP 1-3WHFB 1-3Twilight 2000TravellerWhite Dwarf 1-99and the board is filled with this faggot pedo sex shit who the fuck sits around pretending to be whatever pretending to fuck NPCs and other people at a table. What the fuck is this bullshit
>>98466198both are correct currently though. violence in media is far less common now than it was back in the 90s. even very mild violence has been neutered see star wars removing limb mutilation with laser sabers vs using then like baseball bats. puritans just freak out harder about sex but they really freak out about all of these things together and thats why need to be told to fuck off
>>98466198>Timmy>>98466376Oh it's jeets who've never played a TRPG in their pathetic lives lookkg for kids to groom. Fucking genocide them
>>98466376>WFRP 1-33rd, was an abomination
>>98466382>urrently though. violence in media is far less common now than it was back in the 90s.What sort of retarded wittering deuded arseholery is that video games are literally nothing but shooting and stabbing.
>>98466198It's so funny how offended thirdies get by the idea gooning at all times isn't desirable>>98466341Erotic loli guro "softcore" games masquerading as a shooter?
>>98466400I'd object to "loli" allegations, these are adult women, but besides that sure.
>>98466198Let me guess, "there's a GOP in office and [war I don't like] is happening," so the right loves violence?
>>98467913let me guess: it's exactly like that posts described and you are just seething meaninglessly?
>>98450979skimpy bikini shit is only hot if you're 13 year old or a mentally stunted nigger/spic
>>98451908We all know this and have known for a long time. The problem is that the companies dont care about us and our opinion but pander the puritans. Why? I dont know. Apparently they just have much more power than us who want our women hot and with big boobad and men muscular and masculine.
>>98450979*rapes ur strong mc*
Is it really hard to believe that someone who doesn't want to see trashy looking shit everywhere might not be driven by religion or politics but simply good taste?it's funny that you're the political enemy too, if you say it to a commie he'll call you a nazi or Muslim and if you say that to rightoid he'll say you're a feminist or a woman trying to ruin men's fun, as if you could call a chronic wanker a man.They really did it. Society is fucking done. This soft porn shit is cringe. Everyone you deal with is a tasteless knee-jerk 70IQ porn addicted nigger who chose the same politics just painted a different color. It's over.
>>98451908Good take, but it can be boiled down to American corporations taking over all media and making it gutless and inoffensive to sell it to the widest demographic.Or as other Anons have said: Americans ruin everything.
>>98466376>I come to the board hoping to read about >old game horror genre has moved past and fishman memes >old game with ossified and dying culture >old editions of the corporate dnd game no one plays >game no one has heard of >old meme game no one plays >jenga game that is actually cool but hit the horror indi fad 20 years ago >dead old game about old books that have been killed by bad movies and tv series>groghammer fantasy no one plays >tacticool 2K is actually potentially discussion friendly, if anyone played it >other old game no one plays, general died years ago >White dwarf magazine from before anyone here was born Note you aren't even here to post about games you play, you want to read about someone else doing something with and around something from your childhoood maybe or larp as a grog. And instead you ended up in this thread. Adjust your priorities man.
>>98451951>Men should be buff! Women should be vavoom!
>>98468558Faggot
>>98468630>Why?Fear. And the fact the puritans got jobs at those companies so they can exert influence/control.
>>98469083Faggot>wankerOh, british, that explains it. Turbofaggot
>>98469153>American corporationsOnly the ones run by liberals
>>98450979What bothers me about how much people complain about revealing armor for female characters not being a thing for male characters is that shirtless, fur loincloth toting beefcakes have been around forever.
>>98463640That's because the things men like intrinsically make women unsafe and unappreciated. Since women are the only people with real value their opinions matter more than yours. The single most important reason men exist is to make women safe and comfortable, and to provide resources for them to use.
>>98469867YES!!Except for the extremely submissive and feminine femboys who exist to be cocksleeves for men and servants for women. *Everyone* else should be model-level beautiful and epitomize masculine or feminine traits.
>>98469925Those don't count because they are male power fantasies as well. Anything that makes men happy is bad. So scantily-clad women make men happy, therefore, they are bad. Big buff men are a power fantasy for men that makes men happy, therefore, they are bad. The only acceptable art are power fantasies for women, which can't actually be drawn, because there is no such thing as a power fantasy for women. Or more specifically, a woman's power of fantasy is not about herself, it's about everybody else paying attention to her and so everyone else changes what they are to please her. That's not really illustratable in a "character portrait" format.
>>98450979New age needs, grandpa.
>>98469153>Or as other Anons have said: Americans ruin everything.I think I'm starting to see the truth between the letters. When seemingly retarded posters scream about "Americans," they're really talking about some OTHER group that you can't mention without being accused of being a /pol/ tourist. Right? It's all performative, right? You people aren't ACTUALLY that stupid to believe all the banker-influenced media establishments forcing these companies to ruin everything are "Americans"...RIGHT?
>>98471640The reality is every group has an interest in this because it'll let them push digital ids while claiming that they are protecting children from porn and degeneracy.
>>98451908>It's le both sides>But I will never ever attack the leftYour boogyman Christians haven't done shit in over 25 years and you are just embarrassed by the left doing this because they went in too hard and too fast and make your side look stupid
>>98457021The only goddamn reasonable post in this entire thread
>>98471640It's also seething Europeans who support this shit to begin with but just love to pretend everything is Americas fault.
>>98469911>Only the ones run by liberals>literally all of them
>>98471738Everything wrong with the world IS America's fault. Literally the worst country that ever has or ever will exist. Imagine America never existed? How could the world possibly be any worse? That's right, it couldn't. It could only be better. Which means that America makes the world worse by virtue of its existence.Hell, even all the good games don't even come from there. American games are all products of criminal companies like WOTC or Palladium or Asmodee or Catalyst Game Labs. All of the good games are from European companies. America could totally vanish from the gaming industry and nothing of value would be lost.
>>98452010I SEE A NIPPLEMOOOOOOOOOOODS
I just want more monster women
>>98471820>I hate freedom!I know
>>98454817>sees a naked dude>immediately has gay thoughtsAnon... I don't think it's the dudes who are gay
>>98451007Why are you in every thread that complains about the PGness of ttrpgs?
>>98455398>Powerful scantily clad Men>Sexy scantily clad WomenWhy is anyone against this again? The only reason I can think of is if you're a gravure-consuming KHHV who can't self insert unless the character he is playing/following is Kirito from sword art online
>>98471558There's also the fact that while men look at the pic and think "cool, I wish I could be like that", women look at a sexy woman and think "how dare that bitch look better than me".
>>98471712Are you sheltered or something? Red states are the frontrunners of this stuff actually passing even if it is still bipartisan.
>>98472128Literal fake news. All censorship comes form the left. Nobody is going to believe any AIsloppa you post which claims otherwise.
>>98472128>Push and championed censorship for over fifteen years>Blame the opposition when caughtnobody is buying your bullshit anymore
>>98472173>>98472575>don't believe your lying eyes
>>98472668See what the Democrats are doing to the internet?
>>98472668>Accuse your enemies of what you are really doingFor fags who just love to talk about muh one uniparty they never seem to extend that when it comes to their own bullshit. Almost like you are just trying to take heat off yourself.
>>98471619>intimacy coordinators to blameDude/blogger, don't be a retard.Those are used so that barely legal or even underage girls aren't manipulated into shooting (non-graphic, but heavily lewd) scenes of things like actual assrape without prior approval as it was in the past (Last Tango in Paris) and the like. (Can you imagine rest of your life after that?)Just find an actress that will sign onto that in advance with all the dirty being properly agreed in contracts and you are free to even do explicit sex on screen these days, so what's your fucking problem?Perhaps it would have to be an euro movie thee days, but looking at what goes on in the streaming companies TV series since game of throes and the like, I don't see how Holywood would be unable to do this. If you don't have girls being fucked in all holes in cinemas, it's just because there's no economic incentive and that means the public is to blame. After all, lots of porn actresses would like to be on the big screen instead with better pay for (probably) less humiliation.
>>98473680Like yourself right now with your numbered stash of images tailored to absolve your own side?
>>98473680>Accuse your enemies of what you are really doingWell, that's the #1 general rule in their textbooks these days, isn't it?This fucked up nature of GOP/conservatives has literally reached the levels of pre-1989 commie or russia in this particular regard these days, it's a fucking disgrace. As is the fact that their electorate seems to be eating the shit up with gusto, which actually wasn't that much of a case in 1970s/1980s commie block where large part of the populace knew well that the propaganda is pure bullshit.Personally being an outsider, I find it fucking hilarious (it's probably dangerous tho) that the absolute mother of prudes, party poopers and general no-fun-allowed-shitters that is the U.S. religious right, is getting any fucking support from anons on 4ch of all places>inb4 it's some convoluted incel thinking where they hope in establishing some rightwing chad dictatorship that will assign women to all losersthese days nothing is impossible but I don't think that's the path right is on, they mostly want to go back to illusions of "trad" past which means prudeshit, not chad orgies
>>98474080>proving my point>projecting this hard when you had more political images postedTake the L.
>>98473924>>intimacy coordinatorsare more of a "professional witness" really, when the actress (or in some cases, the actor) start to have retroactive regrets or falls on the hard times and tries to squeeze some additional compensation out of their past performance, the movie industry is covered by having a "neutral" witness that can attest everything went properly and no laws were broken.It's largely a reaction to numerous accusations raised during the pound me too campaign. Kinda like Hays Code was a reaction to accusation of various movie industry misdeed decades ago.
>>98450979The only possible reason to hate solution A is being a third world porn addict who hates natural western beauty
>>98474150>having the sensitive stuff done properly based on contracts and so on benefits both sides (except when bad faith)no this sherlock
if you're running a family game then you want a, otherwise it doesn't matter and you just pick whatever you want
>>98474128>everyone I disagree with in a thread is specifically just one singular personEvery, single, time.
>>98451551>"Freedom to be in jail"You dumb fuck.
>>98474127>getting any fucking support from anons on 4ch of all placesIf we can't have sex with a 10/10 like we're entitled to, then nobody should get to have sex with anyone.
>>98474268It's honestly amazing how you demand fair discussions only to lie at every opportunity you get.
>>98469867Based Hiromu.
>>98452084>it's a biologically hardwired sexual strategy that people just naturally gravitate towards in certain circumstancesCorrect. It's obviously rooted in insecurity and a sense of not being able to compete fairly. That's why all the puritanical feminists are uggos and the sex-positive ones who try to fight slut shaming and stuff instead are decent looking.
>>98455571+1
>>98474268it's some kind of 4chan psychosis, they actually believe it
>98474344This is the most honest and believable response in the whole discussion.
>>98471712>But I will never ever attack the left>He says to a post literally doing that
>>98451908Most of the recent puritainism on the political side is actually from big tech and it's entirely a front for them to increase the surveillance state.
>>98475109Don't forget the payment processors/credit card companies too.
>>98469217AD&D will forever be high king over all.
To be honest, I'm so sick of everything being so "safe" that I'm beset by a profound desire to outline something beyond "Grimdark".Something manifestly grotesque and perverse.I want giant spiders raping people.I want baby skin loafers half off.I want heroin addicts teaching kindergarten class.And I want it now!
>>98476892>I want giant spiders raping people.I second this
>>98455571edgelord-sama, I kneel...
>>98475109many of the big tech gurus are unironic fascists thoughsee the retard from palantir saying sauron was the good guy and you should be fine with being an enslaved orc
>>98450979I recently went to check out if Sandra and woo was still going and it turned into some weird fucking poly shit
>>98454817Not /tg/ but Monster Hunter armor has been the gold standard for how fighters should look in any game. It's just how it is.
>>98469217>indiOkay but seriously, what's with the constant misspelling of this? Is it your "thing" or something? Your secret avatarfagging?
>>98471820>Imagine America never existed?>Bong Empire still rules the entire Earth with an iron fistOkay, that IS better actually.
>>98476892That's called "edgy" and has been a genre convention for decades.
>>98478088But it also has to be violently and self-awarely cringe.Like posting your mom's nudes online.
>>98479093that's an awfully specific example, got anything to share with us anon
>>98457418that's just 4chan in generalwhole site is bi as fuck
>>98478041>archive searches Neat. Less than half of those are me but more than an quarter. 'm not the shadowdark guy if that's what you're being a schizo about.
>>98454817it is based though, clothes are for the ugly
All male characters should look like this
>>98450979I HATE THIS BECAUSE THE PERSON ON THE RIGHT DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO MAKE SEXY OUTFITS FOR MENWHY THE FUCK ARE YOU COVERING THE NIPPLES THOSE ARE LEGAL TO SHOW, ARE YOU RETARDED?
>>98481247>LegalLawyers watch the worst porn
>>98463656>us right wing atheist I don't know, it's kinda exhausting.
>>98481267The -entire- reason for covering them up at all is to show it to a wider audience, anon.Otherwise we could just have them be naked. Or wearing whatever sexually explicit chain-lingerie you happen to prefer.
>>98469153>thinks American corporations didn't own shit already Point at this retard and laugh.
>>98481247but if you kept covering them perhaps they could become illegal and raunchy like fem nipples! Think of the possibilities
I just want to have things that are edgy/grim without bringing along the coomers lumped in with the same faux pas trying to turn it into an ERP session. And the only people who seem to get it are boomers still playing ADND who seem to be the only group who aren't mentally addled and fall in the golden area of edgy but not gooner. It's like everyone who's willing to play the grim stuff that has themes like this are are larping as rapey diddling bards or their own personal oc thots. You can't even approach the horrors of things like rape etc because these smooth brained freaks get off on it. Or stuff like relationships or sex. How do I put into words the aesthetics and themes of something like Conan being different than someone's sword and board smut?
>>98481247Maybe the assflap skirt has a huge butt window and the pants have a thong back or just a buttplug
>>98481275You know how women in underwear can be hotter than nude women? Men with their nipples covered can be hotter as well. No one should need to explain this to you.
>>98481336homosexual rpgs already exists for you
>>98472128>Are you sheltered or something? Red states are the frontrunners of this stuff actually passing even if it is still bipartisan.counterpoint the UK
>>98481551This one is obviously not.
>>98472173>>98472575>Please stop pointing out republicans have been censorship crazy for nearly 100 yearslol
>>98450979The obvious answer....make your own and publish it.
>>98481881More like "please stop ignoring that all the games willingly self-censoring are written by people who lean further left than Mao."
>>98481994>I demand that writers no longer have freedom to make what they wantstandard right wing rhetoric.
>>98481994>>98482029It's crazy how the right thinks that censoring yourself voluntarily is anywhere close to the same ballpark as a thing being legally banned by their legion of busybodies.
>>98482029>>98482034>does not actually address the point, simply deflects away from itAs expected
>>98482072>Too stupid to actually understand his point was addressedlol
>>98482072>>98482080Why does the right always pretend like they don't understand the conflict when they start losing?Especially here, where they're pretending to not understand the difference between self censorship and big daddy government forcing artists to do as he pleases?Is -every- meme they made about leftists just projection?
>>98482034both things are bad. but most importantly one pads the way for the other. the idpol left padded the way for the idpol right. is better not to defend none of them because they're both part of the same problem
>>98482089I dunno, the right seem to be entirely dedicated to destroying america as rapidly as possible while embezzling as much as possible.
>>98482089I am 100% okay with self censorship and 100% against forcing artists to do what big daddy government says.This kind of naturally forces me to go against the right in these things.
>>98482080>>98482087>n-no I don't have to address it b-because... ur dumb!Honestly less disingenuous than most of you bluesky tourists, well done. Nonetheless, you lose the argument since you were unable to continue it. GG no re, go have a discord pow wow with your fellow forum sliders to figure out how to do better next time.
>>98482154>Literally cannot understand the censoring yourself and being fucked by big daddy government are two different thingslol, 10 bucks says you're an indian shill.
>>98482154I accept your concession.
>>98482095part of the course with fascists. problem is that the idpol left had their time through 2020-24 to stop them and put the perpetrators and authoritarians in jail. they didn't because they wanted a piece of the pie and they bear responsibility in the current situation with the pedo criminal regimeto don't go more off-topic, censorship is a scalation process. authoritarians on the left tried to justify private censorship, which is a losing strategy because censorship is almost always private. the same mechanisms they justified on a small scale are now being used against them and the rest of the population on a large scale. hopefully they will learn the lesson for good now
>>98452922>FateniggerLolLmao even
>>98482185>The right may be destroying everything they can as fast as they can, but the left failed to stop it so they're just as badThis isn't really that persuasive>authoritarians on the left tried to justify private censorshipThe right pushed for this for literal decades, near a century now, in their continuous push for ever more power for corporations.
>>98482109if you read the definition of censorship in the dictionary it never says censorship is when government does thing. private censorship is the same as government censorship
>>98482199So you REALLY can't understand why someone might be for an artist making whatever decisions they like for their work? While being opposed to the government forcing them to do whatever you please?You're really too dumb to understand the difference between these?
>>98481559Please do not project your fetish as an insult
>>98450979TTRPGs need feats/traits like this
>>98482209what's up with the passive aggressive bitchness? do you have a dildo up your ass? if someone removes something because he wants. then is not censorship.if someone removes something because he feels the social pressure to do so, and doesnt want to be burn at the stake, then is self censorship.hope this helps
>>98450979Then run games with that content dipshit. Better yet, make your own system and share it online, either by publishing it or for free.>Why is horny art bad nowBecause the people who called D&D satanic in the 80s won.
>>98482639>Because the people who called D&D satanic in the 80s won.Actually they lost, badly, but in a bizzare twist of irony it was their supposed enemies who allowed them to return.
>>98482496>do you have a dildo up your ass?Yes, but I fail to see what that has to do with the conversation. I have a dildo in my boypussy most of the time when I'm on the internet. This time isn't any different.
>>98482191>just as bad>This isn't really that persuasivewhat kind of infantile mindset is this? if you think they're evil then what matters is the results in the same way that in a war what matters if you stop the enemy or not. otherwise just say you're good with a bit of fascism and with a bit of dick in the ass
>>98450979you control the things you put in your gameyou do have games, right?
>>98482688Holy ESL
>>98482496If a man chooses to not put tits in his work for children, that is also self censorship.I am 100% okay with self censorship.People should in fact probably consider whether it is a good idea to say a thing before saying something.Also, I was directly asking if you were retarded. Since you failed to answer the question, and instead called me passive aggressive for insulting you, I can assume that you are indeed retarded.
>>98482673>I have a dildo in my boypussy most of the time when I'm on the internet.ABSOLUT BASED
>>98455167>>98452922>My side can do no wrong>we are all good>they are all badYou must be 18+ years old to use this site
>>98482719Censorship is when a man can't have a steak because a baby can't chew it, to paraphrase Mark Twain.Not putting huge tits in baby books is just prudence.
>>98482719>>98483237Control of materials for kids makes a lot of sense, that shouldn't be controversial or even called censorship
>>98482719>If a man chooses to not put tits in his work for children, that is also self censorship.No, is not. You're retarded and wrong. Words have definitions. And by bringing up kids you just painted yourself like a potential pedo in hiding like every retard who use children to justify censorship.
>>98482034And which Republicans are passing laws saying you're not allowed to have chainmail bikini women in your elfgames? I know your TDS has compelled you to stray wildly off-topic, but OP's original complaint has nothing to do with anything Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) has done during his time in the Senate and everything to do with the chilling effect created by 15 years of left-wing-dominated cancel culture.Also>if the gubmint didn't do it directly it doesn't ackchyually count as censorshipThis argument stopped having any validity whatsoever after the Brandon Administration went to Twitter and Facebook and had men in dark suits say "it would sure be a shame if something happened..." while "politely recommended" that they censor and ban people for speech the administration didn't like (speech that, as we now know, was actually 100% true). Nobody's buying this argument in the year of our lord 2026; take it back to 2011 where it belongs.Tsugi no omae wa, "what left-wing cancel culture are you talking about, you schizo" toiu.
>>98459851The meanings of words shift with the times. For instance, no one currently uses "nice" to mean what it did two centuries ago.
>>98457833>left libertarians, who only care about the class divide>Auth left types are the ones most likely to complain about everything that isn't pure class.That's what I said. Left libertarians aren't the same quadrant as authoritarian left.
>>98457833>You don't know what neoliberalism isYou don't succinctly apply terms. Everything you personally don't like gets a nebulous cloud of terms, which doesn't coincide with the personal opinions of others that you mistakenly think are on the same "side" as you. No one does. There are no sides, only individuals with idiosyncratic personal ideologies.
>>98456708>mannish women like [...] Grace JonesDolph Lundgren literally had to lock his hotel room door because she was fucking him to the point of exhaustion.
>>98456708Sandahl Bergman was the hottest thing and so was Brigitte Nielsen, F A G G O T
>>98486349Weird, you'd think he'd be able to do a lot better.
>>98482672They're the same thing. There's no relevant distinction and both are ontologically evil.
>>98484939>And which Republicans are passing laws saying you're not allowed to have chainmail bikini women in your elfgames?KOSA. SCREEN. Any and all bills that require you to show your ID to access R18 material. These are all bills pushed by Republicans (though anything with ID online is bipartisan for the most part because authoritarians don't give a shit about party lines). Anyone who refuses to push for harsh restrictions on payment processors like Paypal, Stripe, Visa, and Mastercard so they can't censor people or steal the money of hard-working artists because they draw boobs.
>>98487878Literally fake news. Republicans believe in freedom. Censorship bills like that only ever come from Demoncrats.
>>98488106>KOSACo-written by Marsha Blackburn (Republican) and Richard Blumenthal (Democrat)>SCREENWritten by Mark Lee (Republican)House Sponsor Mary Miller (Republican)Co-sponsored by John Curtis (Republican) and Jim Banks (Republican)
>>98488214>Richard Blumenthal (Democrat)See? Censorship is the provenance of the left. Republicans love freedom.
>>98488320yeah, like banning books where lewd things happen
>>98466172lol Dr. Rex.>>98466341Least the gunplay is good.
>>98490599If you can accept reload autism as a feature rather than an issue, the gunplay is basically excellent.
>>98487208You underestimate the value of a horny tomboy and will not go to heaven or valhalla
I hope they ban everything so I don't have to listen to faggots whine about useless shit constantly.
>>98488214Wow is ALMOST like both sides have authoritarian retards on them!
>>98491141You'll miss is and you know it.
>>98491106Grace Jones is probably one of the most despicable people ever to enter show business, just off her personal conduct alone.She should be peppered with birdshot, and pushed headfirst down giant catfish hole.
>>98483513leftists called it 'book burning' and 'censorship' for the 'evil rightists' getting rid of a trannyfaggot grooming book that depicted an adult male grooming and coaxing a MINOR male to performing oral. with artwork.
>>98450979Please explain how the source book and artwork is stopping you from playing your campaign your way.
>>98450979zoomers need to stop masturbating, this is getting ridiculous. not everything in the world needs to be SEXSEXSEXSEX you unwashed apes
>>98455167troons btfo by historical fact as usual
>>98450979Only one of these male costumes is historical. Neither are historical for females.
>>98455167Royalists are Christian, and therefore by your logic, royalists are leftist.Also national socialism and fascism are Left wing.Your political ideas are incoherent.
>>98494776meds
