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>>98463901first for TZEENTCH'S TRICKS
should I buy the Emperor's Children battleforce for 40k or the Hedonites of Slaanesh battleforce for AoS?
>>98463901asian khorne having not already killed asian tzeentch and asian nurgle then hatefucking asian slaanesh is breaking my immersion.
>>98463901Tzeentch should be feeding the dude curling estrogen so he can steal his weights and watch as slaanesh and nurgle both fuck khornes orfices open. Tzeentch later marries her.
>>98463924>should i buy cardboard or food
>>98463926nurgle has retard strengthslaanesh has an army of simpstzeench owns a gun
>>98463901There are four men in this picture
>>98463941That's the joke, yes.
>>98463924>should I buyNo.
>>98463937>>98463949explain yourselves
Post kitbashes
>>98463960It's just a head and staff swap but hey, it's something.
>>98463941Thank you, Ted.
>>98463955The only model here that isn't a generic Marine is a ported over AoS model
>>98463901wait a secThis pic was posted on another board with the title "chinese people say there are 4 kinds of men".
>>98463982>ported overThe DP was released with both 40k and aos abilities.
>>98463970this looks like a 30k model that has been reappropriated for 40k, especially since 40k models don't have the shoulder pad with the thousand son logo on it.
>>98463924These are two separate games.
>>98463996Yeah, the body is from a Librarian Consul, a 30k kit
>>98463982Emperor's Children are so weirdly tame. There's definitely a few good slaaneshy bits spread across the kits but they don't really sell the vibe of excess at all. They're lacking weird unique weapons too outside of the Noise Marines
why are there so many trannies on /40kg/
I love how much SM respect their dreadnoughts in the books. Always very wholesome.
>>98463924by the way the aos box is the decadent host box with sigvald
>>98464010>I love how much SM respect their dreadnoughts in the books. Always very wholesome.
>>98464004as opposed to>guy with wizard staff>guy with flamer that shoots ~magic~ fire>guy with axe>guy with chainsword>guy with TWO chainswords>guy with cannon that shoots piss and shit
>>9846400330k kits always look so nice but people tell me the scale between 30k and 40k models is off, is this true? Or is this the firstborn vs primaris scale and tsons are fine because they're still firstborn sized?
>>98464042second one but the newer 30k models are closer in scale than older ones
>>98463994This was the only box you could get new DP on releas
How do I get better at painting metallics?
>>98464051buy better metalic paintslearn sponging then learn frottingthen learn how to recycle your pee. Just whatever you do dont try to do nmm.
>>98464051throw away your glitter paints and learn nmm
>>98463991That explains why it doesn't work for Warhammer. The guy stuffing himself would also be Slaanesh.
>>98464058he green tho
>>98464058Nurgle isn't fat because he's only diseased, tourist...
>>98464058He's thriving in his own filth.
>>98464004this is how they’ve always looked. pretty much everything you see in this art made by jes goodwin was recreated for the tormentors.
>>98464046This shit is about 900% cooler than gayass CSM releases.
>>98463924>>98463955The Battleforce is basically just a free Demon Prince if you bought everything at a LGS discount, the battleline and NM are always good but I've never seen anyone run a generic demon prince on an EC list, it's always either Fulgrim or Shanxi or whatever her name is.>>98464004Yeah, the battleline units are quite boring for a faction that's meant to be flashy, they kinda remind me of the old Plague Marines actually.
What is the difference between Battleforce, Armageddon and 11th?
>>98463982>>98464004it bugs me that they didn't include a single fabulous looking headbit in the entire range and instead everyone looks like the monster mash. like a Sigvald from Fantasy.
>>98464080Anon I didn't give you permission to post my picture
>>98464082Apologies, won't happen again.
>>98464051Look into TMM so basically start adding volumetric highlights and shadows to imitate how light actually behaves on a metalic surface instead of edge highlighting everything. A good to figure out the placements is putting your basecoated mini under a light source and taking a high contrast picture.
>>98464080I only wish they had a mounted mortal hero besides Glutos.
>>98464080>>98464103Ah wrong pic
>>98464074>I've never seen anyone run a generic demon prince on an EC listHave... Have you ever even looked at EC lists? Triple winged princes were such a staple in 10th that they repeatedly got points increases and still kept getting played. It's only because the defiler is literally their only good shooting platform but costs a fuckton of points so it gets tricky to fit both them and princes that princes have been a little crowded out lately. Winged EC princes are insanely strong.
I'm pretty sure the "tameness" of the EC is mostly just the pastel color palette
>tfw just glued a sword to the belt instead of putting it in the captain's handYeah... I guess you could say I'm a professional kitbasher...
>>98464116Huh, I guess the 2 EC players I know are retarded.
>>98464076Battleforce is a term GW uses to identify big, combined boxes (usually giving some kind of discount as opposed to buying things separately.Armageddon (in product context) is the new release set for the new edition of 40k, containing a bunch of orks and space marines and the core rules at a fairly hefty discount (compared to buying separately). 11th is the new edition, usually referring to the rules themselves.
>>98463901Just started playing 10th ed after a while playing 5th. I have Necrons - which detachment to play at 1-2k into Black Templars and Sisters?I like destroyers and canoptek stuff, so was thinking either Awakened, Canoptek Court or Cursed Legion. I know I don't have any destroyers or much anti tank currently, so my models currently fit best into Awakened but will get some more boxes.I have:Overlord, Plasmancer, Technomancer, Chronomancer20x warriors5x tesla immortals3x wraiths6x scarabs5x lychguard sword/boardCCB/Annihilation bargeI only play casually so don't want something really complex to play or very rules heavy, but something fun with a bit of tactical depth.How complex to play are Canoptek Court & Cursed Legion?
>>98463960Tech-Priest I jumbled together
>>98464125>tfw moved the pose of a bolter arm from pointing forward to slightly upmy genius... it almost frightens me...
Irrelevant schizo thought of the day: in my mind, space marines move exactly like the new Gears of War characters. That new run animation has me creaming my pants.
>>98464145No they move like Space Marine characters. Retard.
>>98464131Cursed Legion is "Apply Destroyers to enemy face" and Canoptek is "Wraiths are fucking bullshit" so you'll be fine to play either. Awakened is the more generic choice that works with basically everything, but all three have some depth to them.
>>98464145how is that different from old gear of war characters or any other depiction of marinesare you sure you aren't just basedfacing at new advertising and mindlessly spreading it in off-topic spaces like a vector for marketing?
>>98464155Every other Gears game had characters running in a weird crouch.
>>98464119Can we acknowledge that noise marines carving screaming faces into their gear is grimderp? It makes no sense from a realism perspective, why the fuck would they do that? What tactical purpose does it serve?
This is now PEAK dreadnought hour.
>30k kit on GW's website is $40>same kit on ebay is $70+???
>>98464031How did you find that picture of me? Except I don't like marvel. Switch the shirt for a greasy and paint stained, hawaii shirt.
>>98464183i know what i got bruh $90 take it or leave it
>>98464176Did you forget that chaos marines are generally insane daemon worshippers?
A world eater has joined the Consortium. Just the night lord left now.
How many Boyz is good anyway. I have 40. Do I need more. I nly want the vehicles and some of the characters from the Starter Box.
>>98464194>How many Boyz is good anyway.You should never leave home without the maximum
I am the only one who hates doing shadow and highlights? sure they look for the photo, but when you take them for play its really weird having the mini interact with real lighting from the room
>>98464182>30kslop
>>98464199Shadows and highlights are like 99% of painting though
>>98464194FIVE HUNDRED BOYZ
I was going to paint a ballistus dread for my Dark Angels but I feel like a Redemptor is much more Dark Angels-y with its plasmawat dou?
>>98464199so you basically hate painting
>>98464191That's no excuse. 40k fans expect realism.
>>98464199>ShadowsNuln oil>HighlightDry brush light greyThere done, not technical but at least it doesnt look like its painted by a 5 year old
>>98464239But all the painting channels say to not use nuln oil and to use oil washes instead, and then they also say that drybrushing is bad and that you must edge highlight
>>98464244Dont be a sheep maybe? For the time it takes to highlight one Ive already dry brushed ten of these fucking things
>>98464200That's a forgeworld mkIV ironclad dreadnought released for 40k, my dude.
>>98464244oil washes are betterdry brushing just to catch the edges and do highlights is fineget an airbrush
What's with all the WarCom posts about Bloodbowl recently? Is that still a thing?
>>98464264yes anon I know this is shocking but GW also makes stuff that isn't 40k
>>98464269use case?
>>98464244John Blanche used fucking nuln oil. Use nuln oil.
I tried to make vines for a jungle diorama with string and grass flock like the youtuber said and it didn't look very good.
>>98464286use jute twine instead
>>98464119Nah the pastel is quite flashy its just their bits are often not wild enoughTheyve got some cool stuff tho
>>98464051That depends. How good are you now?
>>98464164It's to stay low below cover because it was a cover shooter. Now it's more run n gun so the new animation fits it better
The thing is I don't necessarily 'want' the armageddon box or starter set, it's just that before I got scammed by the mechanic I had a gift card with 200 bucks on it I was gonna use for warhammer back in march.
>>98463924Hedonites, granted the archers will be really hard to paint but Sigvald, the cavalry, and the painbringers/twinsouls go hard. They also have a good daemons spearhead box to supplement it.40k has a regular combat patrol for EC anyway, so if you miss out on the battleforce and can't find it anywhere then at the very least you'll have the combat patrol. In AoS they're spearhead was recently changed to all daemons so you'd have to track down the old mortal centric spearhead (which is also awesome)>>98464137looks awesome
>>98464080
>>98464304It's still a cover based game. The old animation was just dumb because you can't really run fast like that.
>>98464324I can.
>>98464192will you stop at the 9 chaos legions or make weird shit like a retro red corsair, son of malice and crimson slaughter?
>>98462149If you want 40(a)ks, look into autoguns. Mad Robot Minis makes similar style bits as the OS-17 Auto Rifles.
>>98464341you could use those, chop off the ends of the barrels, then chop the barrel bits off lasguns to make jes goodwin AK lasguns. Also replacing the AK mag with the lasgun power pack
>>98464335Nah, I'll stop at 5. He only needs 5 bodyguard proxies. Gotta move on to the rest of the army eventually. I have the just about entire 2nd-3rd edition csm range to get through after all.
>>98464192I really like the nurgle one
>>98464069Fair point.
>>98464153Is it difficult keeping the power matrix up & holding objectives in no man's land?Cursed seems to be, pick a target, shoot & bring down to half strength, then pile on rest of units in fight phase
>>98464423The trick with the power matrix is recognizing that it's always on in your deployment zone, and the only units that actually care about it are heavy-duty shooting units that are usually perfectly fine hanging around on your side of the table. Getting it up in no man's land is a neat bonus but not something you really rely on doing.
>>98464357If you want something more like that, they got the Grayson Pattern Laz Rifle.
Had some discussion in the thread about this last evening, but does anyone at this time have recommendations for "space marine getting stabbed in the back" poses? I'm thinking of either doing it with an assault intercessor or a converted blood claw, though part of the latter is because I already want that box for a possible marines malevolent project. As much as I hate SW's fluff and wolf accessories that need to be scraped off, the new models are really fucking nice.
>>98463901Anyone got the commando jungle fighters from the purple site?I can trade STL
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
is the guard armageddon batallion box worth it?
>have idea for night lords warband centered around cannibalism and turning battlefields into fucked-up banquets>remember the omophagea and start leaning into the memory-absorption part of it, eg; they have sacred eaters set aside to eat any commanders the warband finds to enable strategic attacks and espionageThey're starting to sound like fucked-up alpha legionnaires now.
>>98464479It's good if you like the new vehicles, IIRC you can't buy them separately yet. Based on previous price trends you can expect the individual pieces to total up to $300-350, but you probably already have a billion cadians. If you can get it in the $200-210 range then battleforces are almost always worth it.
>>9846419430 is normal, 40 is ok but unnecessary
>>98464495Could be like an indulgent slaaneshi subchapter or something
>>98464495sounds cool to me anon, go for itthat said, what occurred to me while I read your concept was that it might be more intriguing if the sacred cannibalism thing were applied to a loyalist chapter instead. One that has a weird subculture focused around the omophagea and perhaps their chaplains or a special rank of officer are served a 'purified' version of the enemy commander's grey matter to consume for useful knowledge. It's practical for winning wars, and an accepted part of Astartes physiology, but it also dances with the edge of corruption, and loyalists having mental wars with the tainted memories of defeated foes sounds pretty badass
The skorpekh lord T-poses at you. It's all over for you.
>>98464514this is gonna be me in DoW 4 boysNeeds a monolith behind him
>>98464495>cannibalism >fucked-up banquetsHello there
man I wish there were mortal chaos champions as strong or stronger than space marineshate how chaos is literally just marines 2
>>98464498I lied, you can get them separate now, if you bought separately>2 centaurs are $130>1 rogal dorn is $105>1 hippogryph is $65>cadians are $53Factoring in the 15% discount on both the box and buying separate you save about $100>are they worth playingNot an IG player so I can't say, sorry.
>>98464506Maybe. It is for a raptor project. "fly fast and stab ass" is pretty Slaaneshi.>>98464512I think there's already a couple BA successors that are big on flesh-eating on top of the blood-drinking, where that corruption play shows up. And personally I'm more disposed to the "yeah I'm a shitbag, so what?" marines.Maybe I should paint the stabbed marine as one of those successors though. I think it's the blood drinkers and flesh tearers.
>>98464192>no rubric marine with a bunch of human skin draped tastelessly over his enormous head crest>Mr. Sandman~>Fabius Bile: Yes~?>Bring us a dream~>Make him the cutest, that I've ever seen~
>>98464532Thanks anon. I'll have to look at some guard lists and see how viable the units are at the moment. Will also have to compare with the other guard box floating around at the moment, though I think it's worse at first glance
>>98464527Naw Chaos Marines are Based! Fuck you!
>>98464527Doesnt that describe typhus?
>>98464495Reminds me of my orange and black emperors children kill team I'd painted up in high school. I called them the "sons of Garf" and they were all gourmands travelling the galaxy for the most exquisite flavors. Sadly don't have any pictures left from them, but they were fun.
>>98464555typhus was made into a space marine
>>98464555Both Typhus and Luthor are fake-marines yeah. But it does prove there are some mortal champions of Chaos who could take out most Astartes with ease.
>>98464552>csmweak posture, frame broken, aura lost>chaos warriorstrong posture, frame held, sigma male approved
>>98464556>I called them the "sons of Garf" and they were all gourmands travelling the galaxy for the most exquisite flavorskek Based. The Sons of Garf should make a return to the world of 40k
>>98464555No he's legit.
>>98464464If they're the squad I think they are, then I only found rambowhave some random other assortments though https://gofile.io/d/AKr3CU
>>98464556I wonder if space marines would do things like a nice pan-seared steak with a butter-garlic sauce in their downtime. I can't think why they wouldn't.
>>98464581because they're genetically modified to be able to eat anything and psycho indoctrinated into enjoying nothing but warimperial fists eat literal garbage with abundant sauce of liquid shit as obligatory rite of passage
>>98464574I've been working on my templars but you're right, I should bring them back, especially with all these new EC kits around. Wonder if there are any good third party bits to represent their spiceblasters they use instead of noise marines.
>>98464588But Blood Angels do froo froo artsy stuff, and Salamanders visit their family and like making stuff.
>>98464575>>98464563IIRC he's one of those 'close enough' Legionaries made from a heroic adult. Some form of the geneseed was implanted in him, but only a partial kind, the rest of the augmentations were done manually through other methods until he was brought up to par with the average Legionary. He's not the only one of this category, during the Great Crusade technology was such that making pseudo-Astartes from adult men was not considered too difficult or cost-prohibitive as long as the mortal in question was actually worthy of the extra effort.
>>98464514It's sad to see Grandpa succumb to dementia.
heavy bolters or multi meltas on my suit ladies?
>>98464479I think the vehicles are cool as hell so yes but I haven't bought it yet
>>98464556>sons of GarfGarf?
>>98464617Multi-meltas. You shouldn't be short on anti-infantry damage.
>>98464605No he's fully a marine.
>>98464628Great, now I'm thinking of greenstuffing an action afro onto a guardsman or something.
>>98464628more of a garffeld person myself
>>98464641That's not possible, Typhus was a full grown man by the time the Emperor arrived. We already know how Legionaries were made from adult men, it was a complicated process but it resulted in 'good enough' results to be considered an Astartes in every category that mattered.
>>98464514I never liked this unit, never felt it fit.
>don't like how the game plays>don't like how the game looks>half the new models are shit>lore is now dogshit>fanbase is mostly annoying>videogames and animation are the most cookie cutter bland shit that are just unironic product advertisementsamy for this feel?
>>98464704empire of man.
>>98464704squats
>>98464145It's almost like there's a video game where you get to play a mahreen in third person, hmmm...
>>98464628Unironically yes, I named them after Garfield lol. Their lore was that they found an ancient book of pictographs depicting the adventures of a gluttonous cat and it was their leaders inspiration to find this great "lasagna." They'd already been chaos renegades following slaanesh but under this new guidance they began seeking the greatest flavors the galaxy could offer. They use mega pepper spray launchers that shoot capsaicin clouds instead of noise marines.
>>98464704whichever has the most models you like
>>98464704You’re welcome to your opinion but I like alot of the newer stuff
>>98464722Based ive been back at it recently
>>98464704Perhaps it's time to let go and move to a different game or hobby, anon. Nobody is forcing you to endure these things in something that's supposed to be a fun hobby.
>>98464015im torn because the model range is kino but also why is slaanesh = Arabia
>>98464479The Centaur has firing deck 12, it's very funny for an artillery truck (heavy weapons squads count for 2 weapons, so you can fit 6 lascannons into a Centaur and fire them every turn as the Centaur's weapons) and I love it because of thisThe Hippogriff is very strong with its ability to move back into cover during your firing phase, and you have 2 of them. You can run that as 1 unit or 2 separate ones.The Dorn is a great tank (despite lacking a bottom panel), it's a good command vehicle as well if you want to get into tank guard proper.Line Cadians are always welcome in a guard roster, even just to farm home OBJ points.If I were starting guard right now that's one of the better purchases you could make. Far better than the current battleforce box IMO (it's full of indirect fire weapons).>>98464498You've been able to buy the Centaur and Hippogriff separately for like a month at this point.If you shop 3rd party vendors (you should) you can get Hippogriffs and Centaurs for $55 each and Dorns for $90 online, or even cheaper in-person.That box is still cheaper than piecemealing it though.
Have any of you guys who have been to big GTs before know how anal they are about wysiwig? I'm going to NOVA this year and some of my models don't have the wargear I'd like to use. If you keep it easy to understand do the TOs care? Eg: All of this type of unit has plasmaI know it gets confusing if you have non-wysiwig models with mixed gear, but if it's all consistent surely that's ok?
>>98464644that cat is nowhere near fucked up enough to be medieval english
>>98464199I find this is only really an issue with non metallic metal paint styles. Assuming you're playing under overhead lighting, which you almost certainly are, some regular highlights and shading shouldn't stick out as an issue.>>98464244Nuln oil is great and so are oil/enamel washes. They all have their own strengths and weaknesses.
>>98464704You are welcome to play old editions dude. Just play 3rd or 4th or something.HOWEVER I think you are a fake grog because there are some truly atrocious models from old GW they just don't stand the test of time and only the old stuff gets remembered, reposted and recasted/proonted.In 15 years only the best stuff of this generation will be remembered and people will be like "wow GW really killed it with these nurgle classic models" or something.
>>98464611>Inquisitor Kenobi Holmes-Columbo!
>>98464244My friend uses nuln oil on fucking everything its just good and easy bro lol
>>98464765OR perhaps it's time to attack the rules designers using psycho-satellite attacks while they're dreaming until they relent and change the core rules back to something good. Like 4th ed core rules.
>>98464784if you're uncertain just shoot them an email to confirmive seen people at GT's with some of the laziest proxies, you're probably fine
>>98464164This may shock you, but that's how you're supposed to move in active warzone
>>98464804“just close Pandora’s box” niggas be like
>>98464809Yeah I always really liked roadie running I thought it made sense and was cool and unique
>>98464804It won't happen. Either accept it, or move the fuck on.
>>98464704I was gonna say go check out Battletech, but most of that applies there, too.
>>98464031It is okay to like things because they're good and nice.
>>98464831Liking things that are nice is reddit.
>>98464836>Liking things is reddit.ftfy
>>98464031>the war-worshipping war-zealots actually LIKE their war-machine entombed war-heroes!?
>>98464145assuming this game is actually good and like the original gears trilogy. I will simply use my overactive imagination and delusional mind to believe the gears are space marines and the locusts are orks, so I can play the greatest Warhammer 40K game ever made.
>>98464848It looks really good so far manIt all just comes down to whether its aesthetically dark like the first ones so it can be 40k coded
>>98464810You literally just can though. If the rules designers refuse to do it, then it's purely a skill issue. Bring back 2nd edition core rules.
>>98463960Oh yeah, oh yeah oh yeah
>>98463982>4 times dudes with guns + 1 central hero model>>98464015>2 times heavy melee dudes + 1 time dudes with guns + cavalry + central hero modelHoly mog
Firstborn autist hereI don't own a single Primaris model to compare, but how much wider are the torsos than firstborn? I'm shopping for conversion bits to slap onto Tacticals/Sternguard and some of the two handed weapons I see come with both arms attached. Is it something I can finagle with greenstuff or is it hopeless?
Anybody have any examples of Eldar paint schemes they find particularly fetching? Getting ready to sit down and paint and while I like Alaitoc's colors, I don't know that it's the correct scheme for me.
>>98464900Hot pink and yellow
I HATE Orks >:c
>>98464900oxidised bronze
I like orks :D
I could take or leave orks :|
>>98464905I do kinda love it, but holy shit it burns my eyes to look at!
>>98464864You cant anon you have no power to do anything other than what you personally choose to do
>>98464931>needing an essay to tell a joke that gets old by the second sentencefucking abysmal, is this what passes for humor these days?
I just had a thought, oddworld races and technology would fit so well into 40k
So if I understand correctly when an exodite world gets invaded it kinda becomes like catachan on steroids or like the avatar movies where the fauna also defends the world due to the influence of the world spirit?
>>98464549>>98464532>Dornovercosted at the moment. if you insist, oppressos cannon.>Hippospretty cool in Armored Infantry, shit everywhere else. you're better off running armored sentinels>Centaurfilled w heavy weapons squads or ogryns, it's ok.>CadiansHIDEOUSLY OVERCSTED
>>98464951That's correct. The World Spirit reacts to attempts to disturb the natural order by rallying a massed defense across all lifeforms on the surface. It will even attempt to turn invaders 'native' by infiltrating their dreams and convincing them to attack their fellows.
>>98464957Fuck man exodites are so cool I hope we get exodite units without eldar like wild beasts of swarms or something
>>98464947>he hasn't seen the essays of cope about Iran
>>98464967Oh I understand the joke, you're just dogshit at telling it.
>>98464949Trve
>>98464831Sir this is 40k.
>>98464527How would they be as strong as marines without any kind of enhancement that would make them no longer mortal?
>>98465103a chaos champion doesn't stop being mortal the moment he gets a chaos gift
>>98465107Extremely debatable
https://www.reddit.com/r/Blacklibrary/comments/1van2s8/my_library/
>>98464923this ork is fucked up bruhalso>x icon on the center too
>>98464617Conventional wisdom is to use meltas because the SoB book lacks anti-tank without them, and has plenty of heavy bolters and similar strength weapons already. It would be a missed opportunity to pass up something the book generally lacks. Especially since the unit has a special rule that applies to monsters/vehicles so you want the monsters/vehicles weapon.I've actually been testing the bolters lately since you save 30 points though, and it's not bad. 3 shots each means 12 shots, 2+ to hit rerolling means 12 hits, shooting at let's say toughness 12 means wounding on 6+ but they have +1 to wound and reroll wounds which means about 6 wounds, 6 wounds at ap1 means about 2 unsaved wounds against the typical 3+ armor save vehicle/monster, and at damage 2 that translates to a total of 4 unsaved damage every time the bolter paragons shoot at a T12 3+ unit.Compare that to meltas, which is 6 shots which means 6 hits, s9 wounds t12 on a 5+ but they have +1 to wound and reolling which means about 4 wounds rounded down, ap4 against the same 3+ armor means 4 unsaved wounds, and at damage d6 that will average about 4 rounded up or 3 rounded down. So every time the melta paragons shoot at a t12 3+ monster/vehicle they'll do about 12 damage and sometime you'll get lucky and do around 16 lol.So the difference is pretty big when they get their ideal target. Damage 4 vs damage 12 per shooting phase is worth the 30 points, generally speaking.Also note that RAW, verified in the GW app list builder, you don't actually have to take all melta or all bolter, you can mix and match this unit. So if you find yourself with only 20 points left at the end of listbuilding, take 2 meltas and leave the third with a bolter. Nothing wrong with that, since they can split fire.
Being an ork must be fun
>>98465131They specifically refer to typhus as a mortal chaos lord or something but idk
>>98465103>>98465107You can model your doods however you want. Sufficiently powerful chaos champions can walk all over chaos marines. Arguleon Veq was totally washed up and still took out an elite team of word barer specialists.
>>98464794I started in 5th but I have played a little 3rd and want to play it more
>>98465167Go for it brother
>>98465153so much fun
>>98465181>acting retarded makes orkz coomI knew I missed my calling
please no more token characters, we don't use half of them anyways
I am reading the Wicked and the Warped. Pretty cool.
>>98464357I hope we get a cool looking lasgun in the Steel legion.
How's this looking? I'm going for bee themed tyranids.
>>98465272Looks more industrial.
>>98465257>ligma Ohio caramize
>>98465272you'll get a more natural result if each plate has a yellow-to-black gradient instead of alternating the plates
>>98465153It’s a life of raw misery and stupidity
>>98465257I recognize this super fucking old AI picture, holy shit.>no more token charactersWe just got generic ultramarine character revealed last month, sorry but it's gonna keep going.
>>98465272I think the bottom part needs to be a brighter color, as it is now it kinda looks industrial like >>98465280 said. I also think your yellow needs to be more punchy but I don't know how much further you can push it with slapchop.
>>98465314>you can field a marine army of all epic heroes>marines have more epic heroes than most factions have datasheetshumiliation ritual
>>98465272>beeI’d recommend looking up wasps because they aren’t as fuzzy as bees which gives you a better idea of their body and face. bees and wasps also don’t have grey on them, they have black. if you didn’t tell me, I’d think you were trying for iron warriors tyranids desu.
>>98465314Im always down for some new ultramarine characters man hell yea
is there any good source of robot arms for my guard?
>>98464949>Bad ends to Oddworld are canon, glukkons in the Magog Cartel prioritize and develop space travel to expand onto other planets purely in search of more resources to exploit in the name of Moolah >Spacecrafts adorned with electronic advertisements enlightening the cosmos to the ways of their consumerism and greed>Vykers research new and terrible weapons of war, Sligs are all but mass-produced grunts (more so than usual) to be thrown into the heat of battleGot my 'tism fired up a bit there, I imagine they'd act as a sort of bridge between Tau and Orks in terms of both uniting and relying on auxiliary forces and the madcap consumerist spin the games always had
Guys you lied to meKill team is actually really fun
>>98465437It depends. I really don't like it as a "competitive" game, but the narrative campaigns they put in the boxes are very cool. Played with a friend the one where you have to fight the other while delving deeper and deeper into a Necron Tomb, with the last mission the Nightbringer awaken and you have to escape. Now we are doing the one where we hunt the Red Terror.
>>98465181>Orktion Park.
Ended up buying scouts instead of blood claws for my defeated foe collage. So as a bonus I'll have a kill team that I can play with instead of a bunch of dead wolf bits, since the box comes with 10 guys and the team is 9 operatives.
>>98464051Multiple levels. What you’re probably doing right now is just slapping down gold paint.Next level from that is using a recess wash, then edge highlight with silverAfter that is something called TMM (True Metallic Metal,) where you use multiple metallic paints with different colored pigments to build up volumetric highlights.After that is non metallic metal.
>>98464200Most 30k gear is still in use
When making /yourdudes/, do you consider color palette autism like contrasting and/or complementary colors, or do you just say "I think it looks cool" and go from there?
>>98465500same thing
>>98465500I think about that and the general feelings a scheme gives. Picrel used to be my Fists successor scheme before I switched the blue-grey out for olive green.
>>98463960
>>98464015Blame Persia.
>>98465500My dudes were my third army, so I mainly considered a color palette that would be different from the rest.
What's wrong with aeldarifags?
Should I have the night lord killing a scout that's painted in the scheme of my loyalist chapter? It seems like the most fun choice for a color scheme, even though Blood Angels would be a better color contrast. Part of /mydudes/' lore is that they have a ton of scouts.
>>98465676man, shitposters really get a lot pf mileage out of that word bearer image huh.
>>98465684You do you man, color theory is just theory, at the end of the day, /yourdudes/ are /yourdudes/Also I think night lords have a specific feud with dark angels and raven guard
>>98464142>>98464125>tfw using a deimos rhino instead of a mars pattern rhinoYeah... I like to use some "unconventional" customizations sometimes.... some might even call it "illegal".....
>>98465727I forgot about the DAngels feud. That's a possibility.I'll probably hold off on deciding at least until I have the scout assembled, which is gonna be a bit since I have to cut his torso apart to arch his back.
>>98465152nta but thanks for the good answer
>>98465727Infamously several of our posters have schemes for their dudes that at times break from colour theory without anyone caring that much. Except for the fucking blue tabards. Fuck you.
>>98465261Doomrider makes a cameo
I run out of primer and I need to buy a new one, what is the best primer color for painting orks? I'm thinking of painting the armageddon orks with a bad moons motif
In the process of turning all my Sororitas into bad bitches.
>>98465631Imma show these to my gsc friend, they are dope anon.
>>98465836Why did he draw a penis on his charts?
Me one day might make Belmont build with a whip and smithscript weapons throwing axes and knives.
>>98465844It's a tally of how many dicks he's twisted.
Anon has just reminded me how much I wish Blood Angels wore some form of elaborate outer coat or styled their armor more like an aristocrat.
>>98465851Understandable. It's important to keep track of such things.
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
Kill Chaos
>>98463960midget zombie bounty hunter
>>98465867kill yourself
>TWWH has a character who killed so much Chaos he became ChaosI can't recall that happening in 40k once. There was also that story of a Bretonnian Knight fighting a Khorne warlord, and Khorne actually thought the other guy was cooler and buffed the Bretonnian to kill his Khorne worshiper.
>>98465883He became a demon prince because he got cucked by belakor and stealing his bear bara god from him.
>>98465883>killed so much Chaos he became Chaoshe was manipulated by belakor from the start who sacrificed fodder to turn him
>>98465892>>98465901But he had to succeed in fighting first and after he appealed to Chaos and it worked. Belakor didn't intervene in his fights and let him beat enemies that would've killed him. Any random daemon or norscan he met in the chaos wastes could've beat him but didn't.
>>98465909fair enough
>>98465883>killed so much Chaos he became ChaosHappens more often than you think.
I have finished The Wicked and The Warped. Overall pretty good. Lots of comedy but also serious when it needs to be. >Inquisitor Valeria is basically the third main character just after Trazyn and Orikan. Trazyn wakes her so that they can have a canary in a coalmine for their expedition to a demon world. >The main antagonist is a Greater Demon of Vashtor that wants to obtain Solemnace. In a discarded timeline he manages to use everything in it to cobble together basically a super Tyranid/Ork biomechanical hybrid and almost destroy the galaxy. >Meanwhile the whole demon world is basically a project from above mentioned demon in trying to corrupt Necrons. He manages to do it in indirect way. Like Necrons don't fall to Khorne, but put them long enough with blood and slaughter and they mostly degenerate into flayed ones, at which point the difference between them and actual Khorne cultists is sophistry.Also good news for Ynari fans Trazyn is confirmed in possession of the last Cronesword. At the end of the book a group of Eldar Corsairs discover it and announce that they plan to steal it
>>98465883FFG's Black Crusade has a woman who let herself be possessed by greater daemons three times so she could subsume them and extend her lifespan. When she tried it a fourth time Slaanesh decided to just make her a daemon prince.
>>98465909Be'lakor is a known savescummer.
>>98465921nobody gives a shit about your bl sloppa summaries shaskais, fuck off back to r*ddit
>>98465931You sound angry
>>98465921sounds like Dark Mech is approaching closer if they're showing greater demons of vashtor
>>98465931he’s on topicyou’re notget your head in the game chud this is /40kg/
>>98465935>u-u madlmao>>98465953>heLMAO
>>98465921>Trazyn is confirmed in possession of the last Cronesword.The daemon... lied?
>>98465944I don't know, the guy that appear doesn't have a coherent design enough to make you think it could be based on a miniature as it's basically a biomechanical shoggoth that changes every scene, and all the minor demons that appear in the book are your usual variety of aligned stuff. He's the only demon of Vashtor that appears.
>>98465960Unless there are like six of them around, or it's one of those that are already in the hand of the Ynari, I don't know enough about their lore to know that.
>>98465921>Spoilers>Nothing happens!>Ynnari spoilers>Tune in next time- we promise something DEFINITELY happens then!On the one hand I am utterly sick of this formulaic approach any time a book features actual named characters, but on the other hand I shudder at the idea of letting a modern BL author have free reign to write stupid shit like Guilliman getting raped in a prison shower or some other modern retarded idea.
>>98465921>I have finished The Wicked and The WarpedHow? The book isn't out yet. post the epub in gofile
>>98465930>I am secretly Belakor Oh no
Grimdark died after Second Edition. All editions after second are AI slop
>>98465979It's not a book about the galaxy no, just like Infinite and the Divine wasn't. A bunch of shit happens but it's not things that people on Ultramar would be affected by. >>98465983I have it physical.
>>98465989Wasn't third edition a lot more grimdark than second?
>>98465989
>>98466016WRONGlook at these orks going insane from the horrors of the grimdark future and tell me it isn’t grimdark.
>>98466016Nu-uh. They started using AI around third edition to sell goyim new plastic
>>98465960Wtf bros I didn’t know they could do thatDoes this mean Tzeench isn’t omniscient and just holding back because he doesn’t want to win but totally could if he wanted to?!?!??
>>98463960I'm cobbling together 3 chaos bikers from my meager bits and legally distinct proonted bikes, I found the banner-top from the old metal Terminator Captain and drilled out a chainsowrd arm to put a nail through it and act as the main pole. I dunno if I should keep the severed marine army still gripping the bottom, it was mostly a way to hide the nail point. I'm going to see if I can make tattered shreds of banner from tamiya's version of green stuff.
It doesn't actually stand on the model proper unless I build up some rubble under the feet
>>98466145I might have it standing off to the side but that just isn't as cool
>>98465989we just sayin shit now
>>98466151grog ai is posting itt
>>98466145>>98466147Build up some rubble under the feet then anon
Wish they added sicarans instead of gladiators. This looks so fucking cool.
>>98463960Repostan from last night
What are the stats of an orange transparent chainsaw?
>>98466213Whatever I need then to be to beat my friend
>>98466178All the treaded space marine vehicles look so much better than the primaris grav-tank ones. I gotta find a 3d print kit to give gladiators treads, hopefully it doesn't change the silhouette too much
Are we actually the chuds? I have heard that people who aren't I guess permanently online 4chan freaks like ourselves perceive warhammer(and maybe certain factions) as being "chud coded". But realistically, what the fuck does that even mean. If someone likes Deathguard of Kreig, does that also make them a chud? If someone likes Black Templar, are they also a chud? What even makes a faction "chuddy"? To me, warhammer is just a setting that naturally lends itself to extremes. Most factions are extreme in their own way.So some argue that like "Well because Black Templars are hyper xenophobic and you like Black templar, that means you are highly xenophobic and racist!!!" or "Because Kriegers wear gas masks, that means you are a nazi!" It seems nuts to me honestly. What do you think? Are we actually the chuds?
You would not survive in first edition Rogue Trader.
>>98466255It's not just the treads I just think gladiators are a vert poor unit. They are bad as a replacement for predators and as a medium battle tank they are just boring. Sicarans fill the same medium battle tank niche while having their own design identity and shape.
> join comfy escalation league to learn 11th and as motivation to paint more> tourney fags start demanding the league be 2k only and basically be a 6 month long tournament.
>>98466258In the words of Brad Poorhammer, a podcaster: "it's not every Black Templar profile picture in our youtube comments, but it's always a Black Templar profile picture in our youtube comments".If Krieg and BT players want to be treated normally, they could start by being social with others. When someone says "oh yeah I started an Ork army" or posts "my Tzeentch daemons are coming along well" on instagram, the normal response is "wow that's really cool!" or "those look great, I love what you did with the weapon detail". Do that instead of posting "XENOS? HERESY" or "brother get le flamer... le heavy flamer" memes.Krieg has a similar deal, sort your own shit out and stop hanging out with the "my armband is a fullmetal alchemist reference" guy.
>>98466269That's not Rogue Trader anon, that's ADnD
>>98466269this is pretty simple though... hes just writing out the whole calculations everyone here does in every game just not summarized in one equation
>>98466286this is why people talk about gatekeeping unfortunately, excepts its not women that ruin hobbies but collectors and turbo gamers
putting together a beastmen-style genestealer cult force and was wondering if these conversions are good enough to be identifiable for different unitsguy on left is a acolyte hybridtwo guys in the middle are supposed to be metamorph hybridstwo guys on the right are supposed to be genestealers (i'm torn between three arm vs four arms, i think three arms look better but the four arms differentiate them better from the metamorphs)official models on the bottom for referencethank you
>>98466304Theres like 4 other 2k competitive leagues in the area and they all play in them already. Fuck these waacfags. They all act like they'll be playing in the ATC or WTC. Idiots don't know those teams are properly gatekept and they'll never be on one.
>>98466258I don't mean this as a dismissal of your thoughts, but:They're twitter nogs parroting other twitter nogs, who gives a shit? The things people care about at my lgs are your hygeine, your sociability, and MAYBE your paintjobs.
>>98466286Happened to me, too. League starts at 500 points.Learning EC, so brought some infantry just to get started, scariest thing was a unit of 3 Flawless Blades. Necron opponent brings a ccoujple token characters, two Lokhust Destroyers, two Lokhust Heavy Destroyers with the 6-damage cannon and a fucking Doomsday Ark. And whined that we should play on a full-size board because playing on the proper small size would give melee too much of an advantage.Fuck WAAC faggots.
>>98466178>that left sponson
>boomer coworkers keep leaving all the painting tasks to me >"You like painting those toy soldiers, don't you anon?"The worst part is they're right, painting is fun.
>>98466310With how similar Acolytes and Metamorphs are, it's not an issue. But in your case the Purestrains also look very similar, if you can just equip them with nothing but claws they would stand out from the rest.
>>98466295why the fuck are you watching that slop. its 80 IQ takes for 70 IQ viewers
>>98464547No tson apothecary in the works but I do have a squad of rubrics.
>>98466338makes sense, thank you anon
>>98465272>>98465315my solution was flash gits yellow of white primer, with a fuegan orange wash.
>>98465921lol, people still fall for your bait every single time. I wonder if it's a crop of newbies that don't recognize you doing this for every book with an Eldar twist or if it is the same gullible folks.
Wanna get into 40K, but I'm wondering how hard is painting for a complete beginner?
>>98466453Not very hard these days, so much info on what to learn before starting compared to 25 years agoJust look up some Duncan rhodes beginner videos and buy a box of infantry for the army you like and some paints and brushes, nippers, primer, exacto knife, and try your hand at it
>>98466453It's honestly easy. It's not like you have to paint to a certain standard or else you get disqualified and access to instructions and tutorials is easier than its ever been. The only hard thing is that it's a skill like any other and it takes practice and effort to get better. As far as tools go don't overthink it, just get a starter set of paints, primer and a brush from either GW or any of the other mini-paint companies like Vallejo, Ak, Army Painter, etc and go from there.
>>98466453It's a skill that develops over time, like anything that involves knowledge or technique. Watch some painting guides on youtube and just do lots of repetitions. Steadily improving over time is the trick, don't expect things quickly. Have patience with yourself and just enjoy it. Painting is part of the fun of the hobby. Many stores have areas where people can paint together and that's a great way to pick up tips too.Just painting at all already puts you farther than most players, and then over time you actually start making things that look good. It's a nice feeling.
>>98466453As hard as you want to make it.Depending on which faction to get, some are easy, some are hard. Tyranids? Slather on some Contrast paints. Chaos Marines? Hope you like painting trim, faggot.Just get a decent set of brushes, NO synthetics, NO Army Painter. You can get a set super cheap at most hobby stores. They won't last long, but if you only paid like 4 bucks for them, it'll be enough to get you started.
>>98466453slapchop/contrasts/speedpaintsignore tha haters, as an entryway to learning to hold a brush at all it's an ok entryway, and when you move on from primarily using contrasts they still have their use when dilluted as washes/glazes
>>98466453lot easier now that there loads of painting tutorials and guides at your fingertipsyoutube has changed the hobby a lot
>>98466453Play Genestealer Cults
>>98466496nah he should play admech instead
>>98466453It's harder to get over the mental hurdle that you'll mess up than it is to actually put paint on the models.Get some models that you like the look of and don't look too difficult to paint (larger, less fiddly details, stuff like that), and start there. It's genuinely harder to trim all the sprue remnants and mould lines off of models (at least on your fingers) than it is to paint.I started painting with the cheapest brush set I found at my nearest hobby store (which was a Hobby Lobby) and a $50 army painter starter set of paints on a Leman Russ. I learned a lot and got better by trying again and again.If it helps to watch someone else do it to build up courage, watch a few yt videos of other people painting models. Duncan Rhodes has a few good "beginner" videos, he's very palatable to a newcomer IMO.
>want to sand down greenstuff>I still need to wait on it to harden
do these look like shit?
>>98465867>just gets off xir ban>immediately starts off-topic shitposting againDon't be ramarama
>>98466550Uh oh schizophrenic wannabe janny melty
>>98466543yes
>>98466543no
>>98466543Maybe
>>98466543I don't know
>>98466543Can you repeat the question?
>>98465917>ratfag has been the fftroon all alongLOL
>>98466518>sanding>greenstuff
>>98466585You aren't really so stupid to think the most popular rpg series of all time has one fan here are you
>>98466453what army are you thinkingalso keep in mind that you can always go back to a modelmy first necrons were basically spray painted in runelord brass primer with some sludged-on steel metallic on the weapon and a mediocre green on the glowy bitsi went back to them years later and touched them up and they're up to par
>>98466543I think they're quite nice. But I'd prefer the studio scheme.
>>98466589Only one person's allowed to like a particular thing at a time.
>>98466453It's as easy as you want it to be. If you have a little bit of patience and use the right techniques anyone can get good results.
>>98466596I call dibs on 40k then.
>>98466646you can have it lil bro
>>98465631What kit are those from?
>>98466589You can like something without being autistic ritualscum
>>98466688You might be retarded Sorry to inform you
>>98466671>escher acolyteTruly it is a mystery
>>98466692I can't see filenames atm
>>98466691>t. ramarama ritualscum
>>98466699I'm phoneposting too, you have no excuse
these slap. got more of the army?
Yeah, check these out.
do csm and traitor guard use xenos weapons?
>>98466543Only picture of eldar I have ever saved on my PC. Good job.
>>98466704Thee are cool, but I might get abused again if I ask which kit these are from>>98466705I still can't see it for some reason
>>98466732My file name didn't contain any clues. The bodies are also from a Necromunda gang, this time the Delaques.
What are the death guard doing in the lore currently? Hell, what are most of the traitor legions doing in the lore currently? Seems like Orkz are the important antagonist faction right now.
>>98466719Not to my knowledge
>>98466719It would fit if piratical groups like Red Corsairs did. Or smaller warbands with limited supplies plundering xenos tech. But most CSM are still just as racist and xenophobic as their loyalist cousins.
>>98466746read Lords of Silence if you havent already. its good. Im hoping they revisit them
i like gsc XD LE XD ECKS DEE XD
>>98466746wait, is pic related one of your models? I’ve been shitposting that its a really excessively gross iron warrior, but is he meant to be an outright nurgle worshipper? >Seems like Orkz are the important antagonist faction right now.yeah, it comes with the model release to hype up more people buying into them. soon it’ll be chaos’s turn once again.
>>98466785Nice, what's your favorite part about them?
>>98466785>I like orks XDXD poster cheating on orks for gscthe betrayal I’m feeling right now is immeasurable.
>>98466795Nah i like orks :D poster started a Dark Eldar army on the side.
Guys, I've come to a realisation. Space wolves are kinda gay.
>>98466788haha yeah that is one of my models. as well as these >>98466746When I was making them, my head canon is that they are a Iron Warriors Warband but lean nurgle sided instead of undivided worshipper like what I imagine most Iron Warriors are.
>>98466808bro, you can’t just say that. leman russ might hear you speak ill of the wolves and run you over with his treads
>>98466732You gotta expand the image first
>>98466550Ban?
>>98466585 the only ff I've actually played was tactics
>>98466269Tiddies!
>>98465272
i'm going to paint the shit out of some models this weekend
>>98464145They're too slow. Plodding almost. You dont get transhuman dread from plodding. Even Death Guard, the most plodding of space marines, would run circles around gears.
>>98466961That's a fuckin lie anon
Best characters to add to assault intercessors?
>>98466976FUCK YOUI AM NOT A DAYDREAMING FAILUREI AM NOTI AM NOT
Is 40 psi good enough for an airbrush? Thinking about investing in one so I can paint year round and indoors.
>>98466995Most painting for minis should be at like 25-30psi max
How often are models actually designed size wise for balance reasons? For example, some units are on 32mm bases and others are on 40mm. I play kill team and I even have a model that is on a 50mm base I think. The Necron Technomancer. Like is there a balance reason this guy is on such a large base and sits higher than other models etc?
>>98467003I think the modelling team barely considers rules or playability of size at all and just makes what they want and leaves the rules team to figure out how to stat whatever they toss their way.
>>98464547Tson apothecaries were probably killed trying to prevent Ahriman from casting the rubric. They would have spent their lives fighting the change and never would have just went along with his crazy plan. Also they're kinda useless in a legion of biomancers, more so after the rubric. You might have one or a small 'coven' of apothecaries who were powerful enough to survive the rubric.
>>98467014The only reason why I thought balance stuff came into play is because there are models like this. Why would this model be so high up? My guess at first was because it has an ability that requires it see a friendly unit. Otherwise it would be tiny behind walls and hardly get to see friendly units. Reason I was even thinking about this is because I like doing conversions but I don't want to wreck balancing when it comes to sizes etc. A good rule of thumb I read is to always use the same base size that the unit normally comes with. No matter what converting you do.
>>98467025fuck. Forgot the model I was talking about.
New recruit pls add the exodite units to your app
Oh the curse of having so many models. I can't decide what to paint when my current project is done.
>>98467082post a list of them all and the power of dubs will decide.
>>9846699540 is more than enough. I'm usually a little above 25 psi for most paints. Keep forgetting to bump it up to 30 for whites and such.
>>98467095>Post a listThat would take way too long I have far too much. I have just about everything from orks, SM and CSM from 2nd-3rd edition. Dubs can still pick i suppose.
Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Blood Angels - LiberatorAssaultGroupLemartes (100pts): WarlordLieutenant (45pts)Lieutenant (45pts)10x Assault Intercessor Squad (150pts)10x Assault Intercessor Squad (150pts)10x Death Company Marines with Jump Packs (230pts)5x Devastator Squad (120pts)Gladiator Lancer (160pts)
>>98467148How does this artist still not understand that helmets are necessarily bigger than the heads they go on?
>>98467127purple marine anon? id say paint the orks :D
>>98467170Yeah but which unit? I always get stunlocked when it's time to pick.
>>98466976I did it last time and I'll do it againShould I:>finish my stealth suits >start a ghostkeel
>>98467179what are your choices?
>>98467189Like i said above almost the entire 2nd-3rd edition csm, sm and ork ranges.
>>98467195>2nd editiondo you got ork nobles? those guys are kino, so you should paint them if you have them.
>>98463960workin on the nidder kitbash
>>98467207Haven't been able to track down the really early ork stuff but I have the 2E mega nobz
>>98466207Love it, very clean.
>>98467227>>98467207These ones
>>98467218Dang that's lookin sweet
>>98467218ooh thats pretty shmexy
>>98467218Holy fuck that's cool
>>98463960A collection of freaks I've been working on.>>98465631>>98466745>>98466704these look great, I need some necromunda kits to bash>>98467218that's some proper alien guts and goop, good work anon.
>>98464244No they don't. I have seen them say water down nuln oil. And obviously if you are chasing painting competition wins, then shortcuts like GW washes aren't going to do it.But ya I watch painting channels to learn how to properly dry brush and use washes lol.
>>98467003Base size matters for getting around terrain, but it matters more for things with big bases like bikes and some vehicles. Like it's intentionally a nightmare to put fat space marine bikes inside ruins because their oval bases are annoying.Height matters for line of sight, mostly for when your model is being shot at. It's a dick move to pose your snipers shooting from prone, for example, because then you could easily hide them behind low ruins walls.
>>98464784It needs to be obvious to your opponent. Or completely opaque. Like let's say I have 3 units of Scourges. Nobody outside the Dark Kim themselves have any idea what a dark lance or haywire launcher look like. So I say I have 3 units of Scourges all with dark lances. Zero issue for you. Now let's say I hVe 2 with dark lances range 36inc. And 1 with heat lances range 18 melta 4. Now there is an issue. How a DE player fixes this put like orange highlights on the Heat Lance guys. So they look immediately different.But if you have 3 identical units visually, but say 1 is actually different and aren't using GW wysiwyg then it's an issue.Another example could be I have two repex 1 modeled with plasma, 1 with laser, I say at the beginning of the game hey both are laser. Thats going to be fine, you don't need to remember which is which both as both are the same thing.Basically your opponents need to be able to make decisions without having to ask you every 30 what your army actually is.
>>98464831I really like platypus. They are nice.
>>98464125>used a different head instead of the ones the instructions told me to useYeah I'm basically a designer
>finally finish painting>have to put all the paints back on the rack.
>be me, gameslet>"11th edition will be revealed soon, I should work on my army and try to squeeze a game of 10th in so I can have an exciting shift from 10th to 11th!">11th gets revealed on their livestream>I hate what I see>I still haven't played any games>there's still like three dudes for my army that are still only half-builtIf I ever collect a second army it's gonna be for TOW.
Got my collage mini built up.
>>98467399That cock plate is staring at me...
>>98467399Nice. My stabbed scout is still missing his arms and head, but I think I'm going to put him and the night lord on the base so I can work out the fine bits of posing and knifework.
>>98467395If you don't have the metal fortitude to play 11th ed you ain't gonna play TOW, nogames.
>>98467406Care to elaborate? I haven't really looked into the rules of TOW but I'm not even remotely excited at the prospect of playing 11th since the reveal.
>>98467388>finally get all my infantry on the table>have to pull up half of each squad on turn 1
>>98467411What don't you like about 11th?
>>98467422It looks like 10th, and 10th made me wish that I had played in 9th instead of buying random boxes for a bunch of different armies because they looked cool to paint and I was indecisive.
>>98467399Very Nice man but I have a suggestion to the collage manager, why don't we do a vote on best of the month mini for the collage and in the collage photo maybe give the winner a gold border with an MVM(Most valuable modeler) acronym in the corner of his pic?
>>98467427Very solid reasons to hate a edition. I'm sure you'll stick to a different system which requires double the effort to paint and play.
>>98467443The painting's the part I like, now are you going to elaborate on why you think TOW sucks?
>paint something>"oh not bad, looks good">wake up and look at it the next day>what the fuck is that piece of shit
>>98467445I don't think TOW sucks, I have 2 armies in the game. If the painting part you like you would've just painted what was cool instead of needlessly bitching about a game you don't play, and pretending to be a fan of another game you also don't play.Welcome to prove me wrong and do the hobby.
>>98467446What percentage of a 5th of kettle one was involved during painting?
>>98467446>take photo>zoom in>looks horrible
>>98467450>say I'm thinking of getting into a game>"You're only thinking of it and not playing it? Sounds like you're PRETENDING to be a fan of it!"Okay.
>>98467427so you only got into the hobby around 9th? You dont even have much of a barometer on what a good edition even is
>>98467459>come in and do the status quo bitching about 40k in a 40k general.>get called out.(You) tried.
>>98467465Just another retard secondary. Dead giveaway is always the mention of fantasy.
>>98467468You accused me of pretending to be a fan of something I've looked at for a grand total of like, two days.
>>98467477ignore him he’s gay
>>98467498Yeah, I asked /wfg/ and immediately got three guys giving me quick rundowns on it instead of "you'll think it's gay, go away."
i posted my cool-ass midget zombie bounty hunter and nobody gives a fuck?
>>98467511It seriously cannot be that hard to connect the dots.
>>98467511It gets needlessly combative in here very frequently just ignore it and keep doing your thing
>>98467516Shall I scroll up?
>>98467532>>98465872
>>98467516Sorry man it's just not that cool or special. I thought it was a normal votann.
>>98467428I'm against it. It's supposed to be a fun thing to do together, not a contest.
>>98467598
>>98467622Maybe it'll look more impressive with some paint on it, I believe in you
New player here trying to understand how hazard rolls work (building up a Dread Mob army).If I take a Deff Dread and give it 4 Kustom mega-blastas then I need to roll 4 hazard dice and rolling 1-2 on any of them results in 3 wounds lost with no save?That's straight up suicidal right?
Did you buy Cain and Jurgen anons? Why not?>>98466889The resident hostile shitposter keeps conflating multiple QUEENSLANDERS who post itt as one person
>>98467670Correct.And it's roight proppa Orky. So be sure to do it every time.You can make Feel No Pain rolls, if you ever have them.
>>98467692Am I fuck gonna spend hours converting and painting a model that has a 15% chance to instantly kill itself whenever it shoots.Gonna take Skorchas instead.
>>98467670take 3 claws and a flamer on your deff dreads and thank me later
>>98467704Magnetize the arms so you can change things out. But don't feel the need to take 4 of each weapon. Go two Mega-Blastas and two Skorchas. Or two Dread Claws and one Mega Blasta and one Skorcha.
This sounds like a retarded question, but what should I use as a baseplate thing for a diorama? I want to start building little scenes, but have no idea how to start
>>98467691>Did you buy Cain and Jurgen anons? Why not?Not really a guard person and never read the books.
>>98467747A piece of wood.Want to be fancy? Buy a small wooden charcuterie board.
>>98467747Plasticard or corkboard. Get some 6mm corkboard and break it off and it looks good as a rock. You can google base ideas and get a lot of good results. Cable ties work well too.
>>98467716>>98467708I was planning to convert them to be more like space marine dreads with a big gun representing 3x of the same weapon and a single clawKind of want to have the option to join tournaments if the game is fun though and not sure if that would fly there.Was also planning to do something like this for Dakka Rigs - will people see it as confusing if they look similar to Deff Dreads (but still have the correct size legs and base)
>>98467747Depends on the size you want. I think GS world has some small display/diorama bases.
I will always laugh that every time a Night Lords player has a Daemon Prince, they ALWAYS kitbash the head so it's a vampire head instead.
>Brother, Horus is invading any second now! Get everyone ready to fight! How many Warhammers do we have in in our arsenal?>40.000Kino scene
>you dare defy the Emperor? you're nothing but a heretic, horace!KINO
>Everyone keeps using Daemon Princes with wingsWhat benefits do I get if I use one without wings?
>>98467747wedding cake bases
>>98467780I mean in fairness to them it DOES look pretty cool.
>>98467791They're a little tougher and iirc they give an aura to nearby units but realistically that's just not why you pick a daemon prince, especially now that battle shock is actually good. You're spending a fuckload of points on a melee monster, you can't afford to have him footslogging up the board like a chump.
>>98467780Nah, I'm not doing.My guys are partially fallen to Tzeentch, but they're still mostly mercenaries in power armor.
>>98467802But I think they look cool without the wings.
>>98467811Then run it without the wings.
>>98467691I don't like named characters
>>98467691>Did you buy Cain and Jurgen anonsI did, because I wanted the valhallan guy. Hope we get a kill team of them at least.
>>98466592Orks or Marines
>>98467788>In the name of the Emperor, what is this!? Some sort of Horus Blasphemy?>Heh... not quite...
>>98467691>QLD players are know to be power gamers>QLD posters are known to be shitpostersWtf is that's states problem?
6PM FRIDAY QUEEENSLAAANDERS
Fuck moi, they are multiplying
Uh oh, looks like the guzzoline sniffers have finished collecting their dole and taking their roadnaps
>>98466443I have no idea what you are talking about. I haven't been here in months honestly.Here, proof of what I was saying.
>>98467762I cannot imagine any tournament organizer having issues with orky vehicle conversions.
>>98468031>"quite literally"Ugh, that does NOT seem like a descriptor you'd want to use in prose. Now I remember why I couldn't listen to more than a couple chapters of the Infinite and the Divine.
>>98467811It depends somewhat on exactly which faction you're running (EC winged princes are insanely much better than their foot princes, for example) but foot princes are perfectly viable in most situations, and often the T9->T10 difference is highly meaningful, S5, 9 and 10 are very common. I've been running a foot prince in my Iron Warriors list (Fellhammer/Cabal) and he's been doing work, he's very often the first onto the middle objective where he can sit and be a tough bastard.
>>98466258>anon discovers stereotypes: the post
Good morning! Reminder that primarchs are capeshit!
>>98468195You could say... they are a PRIME example of capeshit
Primarchs are fine. It's ok to like them.
>>98466505NTA, but my biggest hurdle is lack of a well-ventilated space I can consistently keep my cats out of and lack of a filter mask for added protection from plastic glue fumes. Lesser hurdles are things like not having optimal tools because I boughted the shoddy, GW starter kit.
>>98468210Primarchs are capeshit. It's ok to dislike them.
>>98468210>>98468268alfabusa once spoke of this dichotomy
Started collecting orks recently because I like the models but not gonna lie their lore is a bit retardedBeing bio engineered weapons & literal mushrooms is fine, ok, whacky origin.But having 0 plot motivations other than fighting and ending conflicts just cos they got bored is kind of lame.Are they any ork characters who are a bit more interesting and 3 dimensional.
>>98468275>the reddit capeshit grifter tries to whitewash his own sins!Lul, alfabussy is and was always a histrionic, thieving faggot. It's why he plays WoD now.
>>98468278not really. orks in 40k are a bit of a meme. ghazghkull has a bit of a goku/vegeta rivalry with comissar yarrick, but thats about as deep as ork lore goes
>>98468275>guy who popularized primarch capeshit publicly regrets it LONG AFTER it gets shut down by GW lawyers>doesn't actually apologize though and just goes "GW does it too!"he thinks a single inq28 video redeems him. can you imagine how bad things would be if tts was still going?
>>98468278>0 plot motivationsDefine plot, because plenty of orks have motivations or unique goals to their fighting. It's still all about fighting (and that's based), but there's something they want to get out of the fighting>Ghazzy is trying to unite all orks into a megaWAAAAGH since he sees himself as a prophet of both Gork and Mork>Wazdakka is trying to pave a section of the galaxy into the biggest, deadliest race track ever>Badrukk wants more money and more problems >Mozrag wants to hunt the biggest, deadliest monsters in existence >Snikrot is out to prove orks can be sneakier and scarier than humans>Tuska sailed into the eye of terror to find the best fight he could >Gorgutz wants the finest heads he can find to put on his pointy stick>Kaptin Bludflagg faced a daemon prince in order to earn himself a new hatTheir motivations are simple, but that's their charm. There is a purity in the orks' crudeness that is core to the faction's identity
>>98468282>histrionicUh oh, here comes the 50 year old fat balding faggot
>>98468278maybe warcraft is more your speedi'm sure there'll be a miniatures line after they're done with starcraft
>>98468278nazdreg's a fat fuck who just wants to get rich and be lazy, fighting is more of a side hobby for him
>>98468299>posts a pic of alfabussyYou seem confused, defending a person who popularized all the things you claim to hate.
>>98468310you know that's you boh
>>98468296Lawyers didn't even shut him down, he just used it as an excuse to dip out without fulfilling his promises to his fans whilst being able to posture as though he was TAKING A LE HECKIN PRINCIPLED STANDERINO by rugpulling his patrons.
>>98468296>can you imagine how bad things would be if tts was still going?I don't have to imagine. Space King is right there.
>>98468313I'm not the one who created a series that was just primarchs and marvelfag quippery, but you do you beau
>>98468319Space King is like the anti-TTS thobeight. Like it or hate it, it's much closer to parody of Rogue Trader rather than the primarch-glazing stale memefest that was TTS
>>98468314>makes tts as a teenager and just regurgitates fandom memes while making new, worse ones, most of which relate to primarchs in some way>starts to HATE primarch capeshit after GW actually follows his lead and brings one back themselves, now his series isn't meta and unique anymore>starts going into random diatribes in his community about how 40k is grimdark above all other things and that it must be preserved at any cost. Detests his own fandom.>wants to quit, everyone picks up on this, he's clearly burnt out on his creation>gw starts copyright striking some other fandom shit>"what if i shut down TTS but pretend GW did it so as to avoid backlash? Delightfully devilish, Alfa!"
>>98468031>cronesword tease is real I thought GW gave up on the Ynnari plotline? Does this mean they'll actually go through with the "kill Slaanesh" plan or is this going to be another key jingle moment that won't result in anything meaningful?
>>98468322you larp black templars and deathwatch while complaining about Chris Wraight novels, bohemond. YOU ARE a capeshitter, just one in denial. Like a hipster.
>>98468329She gets recaptured immediately. It's obviously Robert Rath channeling his hatred of fans who actually want Slaanesh dead without realizing that it would water down the setting if you start killing chaos gods. Which is based, those guys should be publicly shamed.
>>98468340Oh thank god. I thought we might lose the EC and Fulgrim for a second there.
>>98468330>you larp black templars and deathwatchSwing and a miss, I don't own a single space marine. And if I did it'd be Bluhd Ravens because I'm an unabashed DoWbabby
>>98468348list of people to kill on the day of the rope:>primarchfags>SM2roons>DoWbabbies>fuck it, all 40k vidyafags>loretubers>redditors>spacekikes>TTSiggerswho else?
>>98468354(You)
>>98468354(you) could have just said secondaries, but since that would apply to you you didn't
>>98468354>who elseRitualposters"Tyranids need more personality" fagsBL authorsChaoswankers(you)
>>98468354italians
TOTAL WAR WARHAMMER FORTY THOUSAND
>CAW CAW MOTHERFUCKERS
>>98468354Australians.
>>98468354Yourself for being annoying and retarded
>>98468325>thobeightstop esl retard
>>98468371...is that daemon prince in the back photoshopped to have blue armor? He looks like the same one they promo'd in other CSM armies right down to the skin color.
>>98468354>>98468348Specifically anyone who uses 40k as personal brand as ar z-list e celebirty on twitter like bohemond, or arch.Anyone else I want gone is covered under loretubers like majorkill
>>98468371Mutalith vortex beasts in 40k? No way
>>98468377Oh bohemond is a person. I thought you were just some esl jeet sperging out and trying to mash together bohemian and mongoloid or something. How do you have the energy to keep up with all these niche micro-"celebrities" you hate? I'm only aware of the likes of alfabitch because he used to be spammed endlessly on /tg/
>>98468375You should learn to capitalize and use proper grammar before accusing others of being esl, thoever.
>>98468371So based on rumors of all the other ranges getting updated this edition, Thousand Sons are the obvious pick for the 12th edition starter box now right? They're the only bad guy army that still needs basic battleline unit sculpts updated.
>>98468340It would be amazing if GW has BL just keeps tossing the sword around the entire galaxy forever with it constantly slipping out of Aeldari hands while the Ynnari slide into total obscurity
>>98468382>How do you have the energy to keep up with all these niche micro-"celebrities" you hate?I don't I just remember when femstodes came out he made a big stink about leaving 40k forever and GW had lost a loyal customer and ruined their ip etc etc. He left for more welcoming fandoms like trench crusade, then he got kicked from that and then went back on his word to being a 40k grfiter type. I have no idea what he's done/doing after that, but hes a retard he said hes leave 40k forever then came back like nothing happended so its hard to forget that
>>98468278Do you really need more motivation? Is the pursuit of conflict not good enough on it's own? You clearly see worth in it because you've taken up the wargaming hobby, yet the Orks are somehow lame for having the same motives?
>>98468371its interesting the phenomenon within this fandom of people who don't play an army but insist on certain units which are not popular with the actual army fansTS players hate them but tzaangors are the bee's knees for people who don't play themsame with CSM and cultists. people who don't play think human cultists should be the focus in CSM armies with only a handful of actual chaos marines leading themIts not even a chaos thing, you have the same thing with Tau where the outsiders love the kroot/aux aliens while tau fans just want more battle suits.
LET US GET TO THE TECHNIQUE VINCY V STYLE
Should I use washes for metallics?
>>98468031I hate black library and any of its writers. But Im no wonder if GW overwrite this shit in 11th eldar codex like they did it with Lion
I love Praetors!
>>98468452Yes.
im just gonna say it, scoring has gotten waaaaaaaay too complicated
>>98468433>I don't I just [proceeds to elaborate lore dump about some twitterfaggot]You need to lay off the twitter, friend. Or at least retune your algorithm to only spit out scantily clad anime babes like god intended
>>98468457>like they did it with LionQrd?
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>>98468371Wait those Tzaangor enlightened on discs in the back are kitbashed. The regular kit comes with spears or bows not pistols ands chainswords. Heck they arent even an official unit if you wysiwyg
>>98468488Presumably he means some stuff from the Lion book written by Mike Brooks got changed in the Dark Angels codex that came out a year later. No idea what specifics he is referring to. That could just as easily have been two things being written at the same time not matching up though.
>>98468376His head is the Tzeentch head so its probably a DP kit painted blue
>>98468443One could argue the reason they don't play that army is BECAUSE said thing isn't the focus, eg>I like birdniggas but fuck playing dusty marines>I like chaos mortals but fuck spiky marines>I like the idea of an alien confederation but fuck monotau/monokrootAlso you have to account for some pf it being the opposite of concern trolling, aka unconcerned trolling. By taking what is an obvious sore spot for fans of a certain faction and downplaying or disagreeing with their criticisms, you can get them even more riled up. Such as>I don't see the issue with primaris, they're practically identical to old marines except better scaled. >I think the knee flanges look neat!
>>98468501>His head is the Tzeentch headGuess I'm just blind then, I was seeing the generic/undivided head
>>98468514>Also you have to account for some pf it being the opposite of concern trolling, aka unconcerned trolling. By taking what is an obvious sore spot for fans of a certain faction and downplaying or disagreeing with their criticisms, you can get them even more riled up.Thats probably the case with 99% of tzaangor posting
>>98468268>Primarchs are capeshit.Hardly. Even in HH it doesn't show them off that much honestly.40k stories does it even less, like even Guilliman coming back. The entire narrative has centered on him or had him as a character like 2 times. 1st was Gathering Storm, makes sense since it's where he was resurrected, 2nd was in Godblight which entire point was Morty trying to kill Guilliman to gain Nurgle's favor.Beyond that Guilliman basically never shows up.And as for Lion, he has done even fucking less than Guilliman in the over all narrative since 2017. Which is impressive.People only think it's capeshit because they are prominent characters that the fanbase talks about them a lot, but that doesn't make it capeshit. It just means people like those characters a lot.Talking about a character a lot doesn't turn it magically into capeshit, what actual capeshit is fucking marvel movies. Stop mis-using terms because you're an idiot.
>>98468348>And if I did it'd be Bluhd Ravens because I'm an unabashed DoWbabby>am not a capeshitter because i don't own marines>but if i did i'd be the most capeshit faggotry chapter possibleYou're not helping your care. You're just a hypocrite.
>>98468443>Its not even a chaos thing, you have the same thing with Tau where the outsiders love the kroot/aux aliens while tau fans just want more battle suits.Because I prefer the Kroot and think they should be their own army
>>98468622>most capeshit faggotry chapter possibleThat's Salamanders, tourist
>>98464164It made it feel a bit unique though. Your characters are trying to move and keep their heads down in a warzoneBut if you like your modern slop updates that makes it look like every other third-person shooter now, then have fun
>>98468241If your house has AC and you have it running in a room bigger than 8'x8', you have nothing to worry about with plastic cement or acrylic paint fumes. If you're really worried or don't have AC, turn on a fan to create a vacuum (point it out the door so it creates a low pressure area in the room, thus creating a vacuum that draws new clean air into the room) to pull the fumes out of the room so they can dissipate. It's harmless when at low enough concentration.If you're airbrushing I'd get the concern on paint particles, but if you aren't airbrushing you have nothing to worry about in terms of paint. A 3M painter's mask isn't exactly expensive either if you're REALLY worried about inhaling paint particles.Unless you're intentionally hotboxing the fumes in a poorly ventilated room, you have nothing to worry about for you, nor your cats. Keep the cats out of and away from the containers when they're open, like you should be doing anyway.
>>98468393No? Rubrics are fine as they are
>>98470579Maybe they'll add a second battleline unit for Thousand Sons then?
>>98470677>thousand sons>not taking thousand sonsWe have to go back.
