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>that one retarded sperg who tries to act like a know-it-all but doesn't actually know anything that wikipedia didn't tell him

This is getting strangely more and more prominent in tabletop, especially now that D&D has several of its own wikis. I recently had some tard try and tell me that D&D never had "Called Shots", which prompted me to pull out my Complete Fighter Handbook and prove him wrong.

I'm not alone here, am I? This is a problem elsewhere, right?
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>>98466648
These retards always existed and will continue to exist forever. This problem is not new and also the solution is not new. Just gatekeep them.

Another fun tactic that I always use against these people is betting. I earned more than 300$ betting against stupid fucking retards like these and when they start losing money on their stupidity, suddenly they become very docile.
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>>98466648
He was doing great with the castle thing but he had to crash out on ai. Very disappointing.
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>>98466648
>Tries to stir up trouble by making an eceleb thread
Tabletop games?
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>>98466698
>castle
wut?

>crashed out on ai
As midwits tend to do.
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>>98466648
People largely consider this guy to just be a fat retard, right? Even reddit doesn't like him, right? People don't actually think he's legit do they? He's a lolcow.
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Long story short, he chose to build his politics into his persona and most of his audience think his politics suck for most people. He did the very common thing these days of pivoting to hard right culture war for the clicks, so there was a strong backlash for his regressive ideas. On top of all this his history knowledge is dubious at best yet he paints himself as an expert. He goes on and on about HEMA and fighting in general when he has no real world experience in either.
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The biggest issue of his novel is the constant obsession with sex and rape[Focused entirely on ungerage girls]. The main character is largely defined by it, almost all of the female characters with more than one line dedicated to them are either trusty homesitting wives (quoting, "with breasts like melons"), religiously obsessed with cooking for their MEN and sexing their MEN, or they are absolutely and utterly defined by having been raped and/or kept for sex trafficking. And as well as that there's some deeply right wing 'anti woke' stuff, racial stereotypes/mockery, and it's awfully written.
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>>98466825

He bought a really big but effectively useless plot of land to build a castle he'd budgeted about 10% of the cost of and failed to get a survey to see that almost any sizeable building was impossible.
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>>98466698
Wait? I thought Shad didn't hate AI and just saw it as a tool?
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>>98466648
It's mostly a Warhammer fan problem because ttrpg players (DMs especially) usually read a wide range of settings and books even if they don't run games for all of them while Warhammer guys just play Warhammer or Trench Crusade.
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>>98466966
I can see someone liking his pure history videos if they don't know anything about the rest of his content
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>>98466973
He's absolutely right about boob armor though
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>>98467010
Shad sperged out and went all in on AI

Unfortunately his fans were very anti-AI, especially AI art so it kind of blew up in his face. Even Jazza caught some flak despite not having anything to with the affair
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>>98466973
>so there was a strong backlash for his regressive ideas
Oh, like, getting rid of women's right to vote? Banning same sex marriage? Getting rid of unions?

>On top of all this his history knowledge is dubious at best yet he paints himself as an expert. He goes on and on about HEMA and fighting in general when he has no real world experience in either.
Everyone is well aware of his LARPing stupidity, especially when he pretended like flails weren't a thing (they were), and that chainmail was virtually impenetrable (it's not, we have historical pieces with huge gashes and holes in them). He fails to understand that weapons were often times better quality than the armor of the time, and forging methods and quality varied greatly, making armor, effective, but the effectiveness largely relative, not a mass produced standard that was de-facto across the board, and even if it was, it wouldn't have lined up with his autistic level of obsession with pretending it made you invincible.

I think a lot of it comes from his English background, and he loves to go on and on about how English chainmail stopped French crossbows.
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>>98466648
Never had this problem since my game has all the rules in a single easily-memorized book that doesn't have any unnecessary bullshit tacked on.
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>>98466980
sounds based
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>>98467128
I'm sure it does, go dump it in the trashcan with the lot of other BECME rejects.
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Yep, not even close, as expected. LOL
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>>98467111
>>98466825


The hilarious (sad) thing is that this retard is so enamored with idea of an easy art that he gaslighted himself into believing that every shit-looking AI picture is superior and is willing to fight with people rightfully telling him that it looks like fucking shit.

Literally a guy eating shit and telling people that it's chocolate.
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>>98466648
Is he going to finish the Titan Sword?
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>>98466980
Mormons gonna morm.
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>>98467120
>Oh, like, getting rid of women's right to vote? Banning same sex marriage? Getting rid of unions?
His novel seems to suggest that he thinks that women who are raped and have the child will have better feelings towards the father, because he's responsible for their beloved child existing. They seem less traumatized, happier and more able to forgive, than those who didn't have kids/had abortions.

To be clear, the rapist in question is also Stalin.

I don't know if this is technically right-wing or not, but you're obviously not a good faith actor anyway to list off stuff like this.
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>>98466683
FPBP.
You'll always have these kind of retards. Just keep calling their bullshit and prove them wrong or just ignore them
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>>98466648
if I had a penny for every time a content creator whose name begins with shad- became a lolcow...
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My fave thing about this retard is that his lukewarm midwit capacity is permanently baked into his stupid name for all to see, forevermore

He thought it was a play on "university," but since "diversity" is already a common word, his dim little portmanteau never worked at all. What kind of fag name is Shad anyway. And then a decade or more after selecting it he regressed to a reactionary pissant crusading against DEI ... the first letter of which stands for... . . .
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>>98466648
I have this problem with 40k.
Secondaries get most of their understanding of the lore from wiki articles, which are often wrong, and breadtubers whose understanding of 40k began with 9th edition.
The amount of lore that is locked behind physical copies of old codexes is astounding.
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>>98466973
>He goes on and on about HEMA and fighting in general when he has no real world experience in either.
That part is kinda sad to me because he's really interesting in European medieval shit but he's on the other side of the planet.

>>98467111
He has a very skewed perception of reality. My biggest clue was when he pulled an obviously terrible artwork and went "see this is not bad, but with ai" and then slopped up a less terrible generic picture. I understand he's not a professional artists but the fact that he considers picrel "not bad" is a sign something is deeply wrong. Something really is wrong with Mormons...
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>>98467915
I hate lore video and wiki consumers. Complete NPCs that just repeat what their favorite youtuber or wiki says with zero thought of their own, usually in the forms of trivia and unfunny memes everyone has heard a billion times or straight up things that said youtuber/wiki editor made up.

Barely feels like you're talking to a real person, very uncomfortable. Good thing they can be ignored since they almost never actually play or engage with the hobby in a meaningful way
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>>98467960
Database Consumers. More interested in the individual components of the setting rather than any of the primary sources that involve those components. How magic functions vs how magic is used for the story. A character's background vs a book about that character. Etc.
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>>98466648
>This is getting strangely more and more prominent in tabletop, especially now that D&D has several of its own wikis.
>I'm not alone here, am I? This is a problem elsewhere, right?

I know it's not /tg/, but this basically 99.99% of the Elden Ring lore community.
People reading wiki-articles, item descriptions, giving plot summaries, in whatever their best attempt at an ASMR voice is. Word-for-word absolutely fucking nothing to say, zero effort, type videos. With 0.1% actually having something interesting to say, discussing themes, theory, getting into inspirations & references, parallels, plot points, actual interesting /lit/ & /his/ adjacent stuff.

I think it's just incredibly common to be media illiterate nowadays? So for a lot of people the summary is the definitive consumptive act?
By that I mean I think pop-media has made """nerd stuff""" infinitely more available, lowering basically any barriers to entry, which isn't a 100% bad thing, but now you overwhelmingly have an audience that ?doesn't know anything, not even necessarily enough to consume or even replicate the hobby more than just a very superficial simulacrum? Like, in the past you could safely assume people had personally accessed material 2nd hand material like manga, comics, anime, movies, but also 1st hand material like short stories, novels, non-fiction, etc.. But now you can't be guaranteed of either.
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>>98467159
His brother is also a le wholesome art youtuber (whose wife just got cancer so maybe Shad won) and shad is still butthurt his art sucks compared to his brother

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VybvjzaK0
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>>98468041
The problem is that significant portion of people (not just normies) crave the feeling of being part of a community (even if it's a parasocial one) more than they enjoy actually experiencing stories and games.

They don't want to actually do a thing, than they just want to update on the thing to be a part of the current discourse and to be able to claim aesthetics of being a fan. My wife was like this when I first met her and it took me a few years to get her to realize that it's wrong.

I haven't met anybody like that but I've heard stories of people watching anime sped up, to get through it faster so they can understand memes.

This may sound pretentious a bit, but I feel like our culture has grown too detached from our feelings and emotions. We collectively decided that having information about something is equally valuable than experiencing it firsthand.
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>>98466980
The book features a literal race of BBC Himbos, who are the setting's good race and who don't wear any clothes at all. His main role is reassuring the MC that it was okay and ontologically correct to murder the people he felt like murdering at any point of the story.

The MC's love interest is a girl he recognizes as one of the many children he abducted and raped back when he was Fantasy Stalin.

He's prompter scum that is convinced prompting in plain text isn't just rolling the waifu gatcha (which seems to be all he ever generates) and that knowing how to use basic bitch PS tools makes him a digital artist.

It's honestly a bit shameful to compare him to the edgy Happa crashout.
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>>98468165
>BBC Himbos who's main role is reassuring the MC that it was okay and ontologically correct to murder the people he felt like murdering at any point of the story.
>The MC's love interest is a girl he recognizes as one of the many children he abducted and raped back when he was Fantasy Stalin
um... based?

shad comes so close to being cool, its such a shame that he has bad taste and wrong opinions, he seems like he would be a fun guy to hang out with otherwise
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>>98468264
>based
Not really. He doesn't approach the topic with any balls.
His book is written in a way that makes you feel he knows that his beliefs are not widely accepted and feels very insecure about this fact.
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>>98467960
I discovered today that there's a Gilligan's Island wiki and I have to wonder who the audience could be for that aside from the one person who cared enough to make it.
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>>98468264
I wouldn't hang out with somebody who will steal my Legos.
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>>98466648
>I recently had some tard try and tell me that D&D never had "Called Shots", which prompted me to pull out my Complete Fighter Handbook and prove him wrong.
That must've felt amazing.
Posting a page from a boook to prove someone wrong online doesn't hit quite the same, irl people wouldn't be able to be that slippery.
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>>98466648
Wanted to run a game of The Rod of Seven Parts 2nd Edition book using 5e for newer-ish players. Started them off at at level 10 and gave them free magic items with gold. The campaign is legendarily punishing so I assumed this would be okay.

All was going well until a kid invited his retarded friend who then wouldn't stop shouting at me that I didn't get how Dungeons & Dragons works, nor did I understand the design mentality of the game.

I'm 37 and have been playing since the red box. Fuck the modern gaming mindset.
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>>98467954
Topleft needs better proportioning and bottomleft is too stiff for an action shot
Right 2 pics are fucking kino thoughever
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>>98467066
Don't be ridiculous, nobody plays Trench Crusade.
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>>98467902
Not to mention that he also shares a name with an infamous lolicon artist, so people out of the loop just go "Shad? Isn't that the guy who drew porn of underaged actresses getting raped?"
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>>98468955
Warhammer guys also do not play Warhammer..
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>always misinterprets the rules
>fills dozens of pages with terrible writing people are expected to care about
>cannot roleplay a single interesting scene despite wasting everyones time constantly trying.
>possessing zero communication skills unless it’s to complain

I finished it for you anon
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>>98466648
When they played a game as themselves, he was the only one to truly get into the spirit of it.
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>>98466648
YES! I call these losers "Wiki-Warriors". They do it in video games all the time, and they do it in tabletop games constantly.

I had one that I had to kick from my weekly game and when he asked "why", I didn't explain. I just said "Thanks for playing, but you're not a good fit."

Shit is annoying as hell. He also kept insisting that guards in town couldn't have purple clothes because "Purple was historically very rare!" (Which we are slowly finding out isn't actually accurate. There were actually quite a few raw resources that could be used to make purple dye, it's just that historically people didn't stumble upon them. But even still it's just a fucking fantasy game. I can just say there's a certain purple mushroom that you can squeeze to make purple dye.)

I also hate playing games with these people. I actually cut contact with someone who did this all the time. It's not just that he uses the wiki for info... It's that he acts like it's something he knew all along and that he is very knowledgeable about any given topic when in fact he is a tard.
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>>98466980
This would be based and awesome if his main character was me instead of him. :\
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>>98469140
The worst aspect of these people is their huge ego. This is makes them start gaslighting you when you catch them in their bullshit. Always keep records with these types, especially because they're petty enough to argue about the most insignificant things.
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>>98466648
His fall intoYoutube politics has been awful. Even on Critical Drinker's he has a pretty disturbing meltdown. He's a married man and everything and screams retard like it's going out of fashion.

Between his novel and obsession with modern politics, I was put off him. I feel Metatron is going down a similar path, the rage economy of youtube.
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>>98467700
that's sounds like a tamer version of the average romantasy novel
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>>98467616
He's a mormon? That explains so much
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>>98467010
Shad thinks generating AI images makes him an artist.
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>>98467010
He literally has videos where he argues with his brother that his mediocre ai slop is equal to or better than his brother's actual art. And that's before we get into the technicals or opinions of whether or not a high quality render via generative ai is actually good or art.

It's actually mega cringe the way he tries to claim his ai prompting skills make him the equivalent of any real or digital artist. The worst part is that his brother is really chill about it and is an actually good artist but shad is too busy compensating for the fact that his brother is better at art than him.
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>>98469181
The one in my social circle (I won't call him a friend, because I absolutely cannot stand him.) is an absolute piece of shit, and none of my other friends can see it for some reason.
We were playing Mutants & Masterminds, and he just kept saying random "Builds" that he just somehow "knew" were OP and strong. And I kept telling him, "Yeah, well... This isn't about what's strongest. I encourage you guys to just choose powers and themes you like." And he'd actively discourage people from choosing powers that he said were underpowered.
Then he whined when I purposefully implemented stuff in the game to counter these "Builds" and make everything more in line with street level heroes. I also purposefully wrote the adventure to give everyone moments in the spotlight and things to interact with. (He told the animal shapeshifter in the group that it was "useless" based on some article he read, then this ended up being the most powerful super power in that short campaign by far.)

He also insisted that he's read every book. Unironically read everything that's ever been written.
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>>98469306
Which makes it funnier how Shad’s brother initially made a video being on the fence about AI, only to then make a video saying current generative AI just produces slop after Shad tried to make a private family fight about not being invited to thanksgiving public via twatter.
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This is not the wannabe-e-celeb board.
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>>98466648
Buddy, Plato and the ancients were writing with derision about the know-it-alls of their times. This is an eternal problem. Thankfully, unlike the sophists and rhetoricians of ancient Greece, the modern know-it-all tends to not be very good with their words, so we can identify them as frauds very quickly

What you're doing is picking up on the pattern of people generally getting less engaged in things over time (see ADHD, proompting, nobody reading any more, etc.), and so more of them naturally drifting towards becoming surface-level information dwellers
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>>98469340
I feel like if you're an actually good artist or poke around with Gen ai a lot it's really easy to see that it's not that great at making art. Like, you can get character y standing in a cyberpunk city to look good pretty quickly but the moment you try to do something specific that requires creativity the ai falls apart.

Like specific original multi character compositions or just anything that's not as bog standard as possible. Further, the more you actually learn to draw you start seeing all the flaws in ai renders like the background being inconsistent, hair not flowing correctly, the proportions being off in addition to the obvious stuff like melting hands, deformed limb and bad eyes.

HR uses Gen Ai in company emails and posts all the time at the fairly large company where I work and the ceo praises the quality but even I as a mediocre artist can tell when the perspective for simple shapes is wrong.
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>>98469340
He also got a lot of shit from his AI psychosis fanbase
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>>98469365
Could you point me to the correct board to discuss wannabe-e-celebs?
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>>98469522
You just came out of /tgbt/ and you're looking for directions back? Man, you dumb.
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>>98466648
Earnest, well meaning, but incompetent and lacking in self awareness is how I'd describe him. I read his book, it sucked, it wasn't badly written at all, but his ideas fucking suck so bad, he just has no sanity filter.
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>>98469336
Damn, it must suck to be stuck playing a system that includes options that ruin the game if you pick them.
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>>98467954
This is some clock drawing test shit. He seriously needs to get a PET scan because it's fucking Jank O'clock.
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>>98468041
you guys must be young this has always been a thing
same with warhammer and warcraft and basically anything that has an investment of time to learn
people are lazy and don't care about the actual source material
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>>98467954
>drawings from a hypobaric chamber
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>>98467954
Medieval monks drew the ones on the right
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>>98466973
>and most of his audience think his politics suck for most people.
you leftists continue to think you're the majority despite your movement collapsing and everyone hating you
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>>98467700
>>98466973
He is a mormon. That explains most of his beliefs and politics
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>>98466698
He was starting to shit the bed before that with his shitty fiction and cashing in in culture war shit. He should've stuck to swords.
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>>98469274
It's funnier when you realize his brother is an actual artist
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>>98468114
>(whose wife just got cancer so maybe Shad won)
His brother looks Chad like in comparison and now he gets sympathy while shadman looks like the annoying brat little brother complaining about everything in comparison
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>>98471157
I didn't know the average conservative was a Mormon who thinks every other denomination was wrong
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>>98470976
"He draws like a medieval monk" is a diabolical diss
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>>98466973
>everyone who is right of me is a grifter
you faggots are so tiresome.
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>>98471576
Weren't Mormons ideologically opposed to technological progress? Or am I mixing this up with some other sect?
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>>98471759
that is Amish
Mormons have lots of kids and can't drink coffee
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>>98471805
Ah, right, my bad.
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>>98471759
There's a surprising amount of mormon sci fi
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>>98467954
>No one recognizes two of these are from napoleon dynamite.
You people are easily misled by clowns.
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>>98471821
Up until seemingly quite recently the head of the LDS church would talk very enthusiastically about space exploration because of the belief that there are worlds other than Earth that are inhabited by other races created by other gods who are part of an ongoing cycle of creation and salvation, whereby some quantity of people who do all of the appropriate things themselves become god equivalents after death. So the existence of intelligent, extra-terrestrial life that has its own virtuous true faith is a given.

My brother converted and he got tapes mailed to him every year about this shit. I think they downplay this stuff these days though.
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>>98471980
More like LSD church, huh?
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>>98471993
It's not a particularly wacky cosmology.
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>>98471980
>My brother converted and he got tapes mailed to him every year about this shit.
I would convert just to get my hands on that shit too. Having any knowledge of pre-Columbian history is enough to debunk the Book of Mormon but their shit still gets wild and crazy.
>I think they downplay this stuff these days though.
They used to say god(our god not the other ones) lives near a star called Kolob. They dropped that and say it's an old fashion folk thing now.
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>>98466973
He's also annoying as. I hate when he's on other channels
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>>98466648
>>that one retarded sperg who tries to act like a know-it-all but doesn't actually know anything that wikipedia didn't tell him
I feel personally attacked.
lol I kid, I know what you mean, it is an issue of autism + narcissism + solipsism. Basically Shad is a less extreme version of Chris-Chan. Their brains have developmental issues.
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>>98470319
The thing with Mutants & Masterminds is that if you actually play it and you make a well rounded character, it's a really good system. But if you're just into theory-crafting the ""optimal"" build to do one specific thing, then you just become absolute shit when it comes time to actually play the game.

In that game, that player gave himself telekinesis. He could pick things up with his mind and throw them, and he invested all of his points into that one ability. It's cool that he's really good at that... But now when a situation comes up that can't be solved by simply throwing things with his mind or moving objects or characters, he absolutely sucks. Also, you're now seen as some sort of freak. Sure, the other heroes in the party have super powers or mutations... But you aren't really like them. You eat, breathe, and sleep telekinesis. "Billy, get away from that strange man with the psychic powers. Let's go get a picture with Captain Werewolf instead. He at least knows how to talk to the public..."
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>>98466973
>regressive ideas
What is he a neo-feudalist or something?>>98472001
Is that why the momrons leave this gay earth in the expanse?
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>>98471576
What a tasteless moron.
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>>98471567
He's also a wikipedia warrior about swords but there's less people that knew enough to call him out
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>>98471576
heroin feels better than playing traditional games and crying about it wont change that but im here and not in a crackden because im not a fucking retard
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>>98471805
Mormons stop at five kids so that they can fit them in an SUV, Amish pop out at least seven.
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>publishing a novel with all your fetishes under your real name

people completely lack self-awareness these days
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>>98472703
... sorry, what?
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>>98471642
the average conservative is a Christian who thinks every other denomination is wrong, including other religions entirely
coexist is yet another lie you've been fed in lefty the best that can be done is turning a blind eye everyone will always think they have the right religion that's the whole point of people devoting their entire life in it
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>>98466973
He's fuckking annoying and that's all you had to say but now we know that you're also a retarded ass leftist that's too fucking stupid to noticed all those red flags beforehand. Like he wasn't hiding anything. He's been like that from the start.
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>>98471576
I feel like "looks better" has a different definition for him
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>>98471572
It's even more funny when you realize that he can actually draw and has (and he can draw pretty decently might I add) but he's still all in on AI.
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>>98472960
>we should've stopped the printing press because think of the poor scribes!
imagine a mormon being less of a luddite than you
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>>98471728
It's not a fair comparison though, medieval monks copied a lot of texts and they obviously couldn't spend a lot of time on each picture. Printing press hadn't been invented yet and even then they couldn't print pictures.

That on the other hand is meant to be stand alone artwork.
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>>98466683
problem is its getting worse because aggregates allows more and more people to get away with shit without reading actual material. under scrutiny, reading the wiki is no substitute for actually reading and understanding the rule books.
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>>98471821
Also Mormons IN Sci-fi. The first to come to mind are the colonists in Starship Troopers who may have started the whole war by settling in bug quarantine zone and the Nauvoo/Behemoth/Medina station from the Expanse.
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>>98468165
>He's prompter scum that is convinced prompting in plain text isn't just rolling the waifu gatcha (which seems to be all he ever generates) and that knowing how to use basic bitch PS tools makes him a digital artist.
Zoomzoom having a stroke KEK
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>>98471576
He's right tho. Chibli is OH af.
It's the nippon's corporate memphis
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>>98466980
Awesome if you're 15, less so if you're legally allowed to drink.

But then again, this is the fat cunt who claims interest in HEMA, owns gear, but claims he can't actually train hard in it for 'medical reasons'.

Crock of shit. I've known MMA'ists who could only use one arm and one side of their back due to paralysis. I had a friend with a pneumothorax that never quite healed right, who was an avid Oly fencer. The 'medical complications' stopping this guy from putting his money where his mouth is in regards to actual sword arts, is just being unfit as fuck, and sensitive as fuck.
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>>98473095
This is why I said you always need to bet with them if you're in IRL situation, especially if you have the source material. They have such a huge ego that it's so easy to rip em off. Online I just block them. These people are useful only as money farms and nothing else.
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>>98472840
The average conservative doesn't even go to church on a monthly basis. Hell a third of them don't belong to a church at all
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>>98471587
His brother (Jazza) employs a far worse soi (Dave). I fucking wish Murray made his own videos.
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>>98466648
This person is fat and a mormon, why should I care about what he has to say and consider him human?
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>>98466973
You've got the gist of it right. Shad is too much of a midwit for the right-ish culture war types, and too much of a chud to court the lefty types. Don't know how he slipped in with the other "big" youtubers who mostly shit on movies, but he's got zero insight on movies and storytelling despite LARPing as a writer and ostensibly caring about RPGs. Likewise for video games, HEMA, actual LARPing, and so on.

He's a got who pretends to be deeply passionate about a lot of things, but fails to articulate a meaningfully intelligent opinion whenever it's his turn to speak. The closest thing to ever being right about anything was the nunchuck discourse he started, and even then he failed to clearly and concisely communicate his point (that Nunchucks were inferior to a similar length stick, which they are in terms of raw blunt force, but not that they were totally ineffective as a weapon, in trained hands) so instead he just became the sperg who ended up arguing with a bunch of mcdojo faggots over dumb shit for months.
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>>98472840
Literally all of them get together to shit on mormonism and call it white islam, shad is not normal
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>>98473627
>It's the nippon's corporate memphis
They literally have whole memes based around clipart, no it's not
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>>98472966
Mormons aren't particularly much luddites unless they're those offshoots that live in the middle of the desert with five wives and use child labor but still get foodstamps, get your cults right
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>>98469493

I can both draw well enough to do commission occasionally and played with local generation. I think the issues basically boil down to a) difficulty of getting consistent outputs of new characters or other concepts b) getting complex scenes done involving multiple characters c) getting something out of the models in general that isn't well represented in the training data.

There are technical solutions to point A like training a lora for a style or character, but that's difficult and time-consuming to the point that it's just easier to have an artist on payroll who produce consistent results. Point B is definitely something much harder to overcome, like I still haven't seen comics made with AI that have good paneling and this is probably limited by a lot of technical factors like natural language processing and training material tagging. Point C is more of a technical limitation that the server side models can do with reference material like moodboards on Midjourney.
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>>98475165

(cont.)

But even if these technical limitations weren't a thing, people like Shad and your HR vultures would still produce stuff that would be considered garbage. And this boils down to having enough taste and art direction capability to recognize what is considered banal by current standards and play around with the tools enough to at least make something that doesn't strike as ordinary at glance. It takes minimal effort to make text-to-image models output something that isn't the bog-standard glossy plastic skin and studio lighting look (or ghibli lookalikes when it was popular), but evidently this is beyond most people.
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>>98466648
ONE???

that *ONE* you say?

thank goodness it's only 1 (one)
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>>98472938
Lots of meaningless details and overly pretty but plastic faces. The type of guys who shit on art and artists and then you see they like the tackiest most soulless shit ever
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>>98471576
This genuinely makes me think of him as less than human.
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>>98471587
>shadman looks like the annoying brat little brother complaining about everything in comparison
Funny thing is, Shad is the older brother, and is perpetually jealous of his younger brother's achievements.
Jazza starts a youtube channel? Shad starts one too.
Jazza is a successful artist? Shad wants to be one too.
It's sad, really.
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>>98472960
Shad takes every opportunity to argue with him on ai so I think jazza just goes with it
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>>98466648
AI
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>>98474893
>despite LARPing as a writer
He's not a LARPer when it comes to writing, actually. Shad is just a run-of-the-mill mediocre writer.
He really did publish novel(s?), they were just really bad.
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>>98468285
Gen Xers (and Gen Jones) watched endless reruns of Gilligan's Island in the '70s and early '80s. We didn't have very many channels, and media in general was difficult to get your hands on.
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>>98476422
Shad is a Sanderson wannabe.
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>>98466698
So if I remember the drama with this guy
>he would actively pick fights with other youtubers by insisting they were wrong about something because it contradicted what he said, but he was usually wrong.
>he had a one sided beef with his brother who is a popular artist, because he isn't an artist himself but can't stand his brother being good at something he's not good at.
>he wrote a really REALLY shitty fantasy book and got mad people critiqued it no matter how nicely they did so.
>he got super into AI art but was not even good at AI art, doubled down on "I'm a real artist for using this" so hard other AI art people mocked him over it. Probably because of his insecurity over not being an artist like his brother
>probably his only claim to fame was just being early to a niche youtube interest, but he was doomed to be overtaken by people who actually did research and knew what they were talking about.
Did I miss anything? Any specific major thing?
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>>98476525
I think that's pretty much everything.
The guy is annoying, jealous, and everyone hates him.
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>>98466973
I think that only covers like one bullet point on a video essay of stupid shit this guy is made fun of for. Like that's not half of it. That's not a third of it. It's one out of 10 different pieces of trivia about this moron.
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>>98468769
>Topleft needs better proportioning
But you have to appreciate that it took 3 hours to do the shading on the upper lip
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>>98467954
>talks like a child
>acts like a child
>looks like a child
>has the same interests as when he was a child
>draws like a child
>is DEEPLY insecure about all of this
actually sad
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>>98471821
Didn't they make Battlestar Galactica?
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>Shädman Diversity
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>>98471576
I admit the AI is "better" though a shot from a movie and a AI art piece aren't the same.
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>>98476525
He has a really annoying voice too, big part of why I dislike him when for some unfathomable reason podcasts I like decide to feature him as a guest.
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>>98477771
He's got the high-pitched Australian nerd accent, the worst my country has to offer.
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>>98466980
just like the witcher then
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>>98472141
>food analogy
no-one is gonna take us seriously now
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>>98476369
I didn't even know Shad had a brother yet alone his brother had a youtube. To be fair, I mostly see him on Fright Night Tights.
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>>98477857
Jazzas main channel, Draw With Jazza, has a couple million subs.
He also started the channel Tabletop Time, which has a bunch of hobby/minipainting videos. Jazza hasn't appeared in any videos on that channel in a while, it seems like it's being run by one of his friends now.
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>>98477900
Meh, don't fuck with art channels too much. However if I remember to check it out, will look to see. He isn't a tumblr artist is he?
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>>98476525
He should have stuck to making LARP fantasy videos about what kind of weapons dwarves would realistically use; speculative topics. He would be a beloved internet nerd, instead he chose to be the biggest cringe lord of his generation.
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>>98476422
More specifically, he's LARPing as Sanderson like >>98476501 said. Writing long books with their own magic systems and overly elaborate plots that take forever to suddenly pay off with a "clever" twist. He is a published author, this much is true, but not even half as good as he pretends he is every time he reaches for a copy of his book to wave around.
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>>98478975
I believe Sanderson once consulted Shad on medieval arms and armour (presumably under the impression Shad was some kind of actual expert), but Sanderson has now removed Shad from the acknowledgements of his books after Shad's repeated chuddy ai-fueled spergouts.
The younger brother, Jazza, has also directly collabed with Sanderson on a video in the meantime, drawing a bunch of characters from the Sanderson's books and showing them to him. No doubt that fueled Shad's resentment for a while too.
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>>98478039
With North 02 around, there really is no reason to put up with Shadman's grating voice.
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>>98478039
>he chose to be the biggest cringe lord of his generation.
Hardly. He is very cringe to be sure, but the biggest? Nah, nowhere near close.
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>>98479069
He certainly has the biggest delta on the respected to cringelord scale out of anyone.
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>>98466648
He triggered coom artists and for that he has my eternal respect.
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>>98477993
Not sure what your criteria for Tumblr artist is, but he seems like he's just a genuinely nice guy that likes to do art. His art is somewhat realistic, but stylized.
I wouldn't call him Tumblr, but ymmv.

>>98479104
He's definitely gotta be up there. I can't think of many YouTubers that have managed to kill their own image quite as quickly and dramatically as he has.

Even ignoring his divisive politics, between his constant slap-fighting with more knowledgeable history and combat channels, his AI art shenanigans, and his very questionable book that he ignores virtually all criticism of, I've never seen someone go from somewhat beloved quirky manchild to annoying know-it-all creep in the public eye quite as quickly as Shad.
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>>98468041
>I think it's just incredibly common to be media illiterate nowadays?
I think any souls based example is bad to illustrate this point because the souls series makes it's fluff intentionally difficult to consume, someone collecting and presenting it all at once is actually digestible. There are "explained" tubers who just recap comics or whatever, so you're not wrong i just think it's bad example.
Regarding media literacy, like i've watched enough people claiming to be media literate who are themselves just snobs using the term to indicate their reading of the work is superior. Media literacy has and has always been a spook, art is a conversation and that of course means that people with different experiences will come away with different interpretations based on their emotional states and lives. I suggest tenpenny tower, it's a fun example.
Are we some how so much dumber and less educated that the people who came before us? no.
Is our Art much more complex than theirs? not really.
Art is drawn from life, an audience merely needs to live to understand and the artist to manipulate people. Just as you do not need to study anatomy to know when bad anatomy exists in line art. or when colours are ugly. everything people like in a work touches them personally, draws them into the work and what doesn't breaks the illusion.

Know it alls are different, and they've existed for decades, see Eltingville.
OP is just a faggot trying to disguise a e-celeb drama thread to whinge about Lindybeige 2, this this time with magic underpants.
IF there is an uptick in know-it-alls it's because it's what our culture guides people to be.
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>>98467915
>>98467960
>guy keeps saying there is full on skaven as a faction in 40k
>I keep having to tell him no and that the PancNoWork vid is just a comparison, and that there isn't actual 1:1 scaven in 40k
>He keeps insisting there is
You just can't win with people who think they're right when they're wrong AND got their info from a youtuber
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>>98479326
Ratlings, RATlings!
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>>98479431
No not ratlings, this guy im dealing with is talking full on yes-yes warpstone skaven that are in fantasy and AoS
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>>98479326
>and that there isn't actual 1:1 scaven in 40k
The Imperium is the Skaven faction of 40K. The cause of the confusion around that is that the Rat Ogers got their own faction.
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>>98478039
It seems to me he hasn't been treated badly and is usually the one being antagonistic to others. I think he could have made whatever content he wanted but his ego is the source of conflict.
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>>98479481
>>98479326

The Skaven are the skaven faction of 40K.

Not the Hrud, the Skaven. They have 1(one) mention in the RT compendium, but they exist, they're canon, they're out here.
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>>98479536
Probably. He's become a culture warrior too now, and it does strikes of him having an incredible fragile ego that makes him feel under attack all the time. No matter what happens in life it's everyone else's fault, and dark forces undermine him at every turn, whether it's HEMA or illustration or gender roles or his own god. Odd fucking guy.
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>>98477587
The original 70's version, yes. It was originally an allegory about Mormons settling in Utah
The writer of Enders Game also wrote something similar but as a sci fi Book of Mormon
Semi related but the writer of Twilight is also Mormon
Mormons are very inti nerdshit, a Jehovah's Witness might be fine with sole sci fi but never let you touch fantasy or horror
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>>98479600
He's a fucking mormon, dude, an aussie mormon with a castle in his backyard. Why the fuck would you expect him to be stable?

I could smell the lolcow gene on him way back when he was doing the nunchuk thing. And it's a shame that only leftoids seem to be A-logging him right now, I think there's room for everyone at this banquet.
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>>98479543
nevermind skaven I'm sad 40k beastmen never got their place in the sun. They definitely exist and had both rules and minis
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>>98479686
they have some right now buddy
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>>98468318
This reminds me of an instance were our "know it all" claimed you cannot under any circumstances reduce your earned Karma in Shadowrun 5

It was really sweet when I showed him the in the book

But it was said many times in this thread already, avoid These People, it takes a Special Kind of arrogance to be this Adamant About Things you have not read
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>>98467700
based
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>>98468285
Yeah, the internet was way better when it was nothing but hobby sites run by individuals for no reason but love of their interests
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>>98468972
the only difference between them is that shad doesn't produce the rape drawings, he asks a computer to
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>>98469220
there's nothing wrong with the word retard, retard
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>>98469336
sounds like you got mogged desu
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>>98470076
He is certainly not well meaning or earnest LOL
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>>98471851
hey found the only guy who felt the need to point out the bit we were doing, kek
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>>98472000
LOL
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>>98472082
Why should you have to make bad decisions on purpose to have fun?
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>>98472082
Also, that character sounds like an excellent source of roleplay opportunities. Not really what the issue is.
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>>98473665
kek you're so dull
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>>98472960
He really can't.
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>>98477596
It really isn't.
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>>98477596
It isn't
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rtFRuo-HX1w
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>>98479686
GW is obsessed with giving the TSons Tzaangors lately. And Kill Team got a beastman factions a not that long ago.
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>>98472966
Learned a new word award.
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>>98466648
Looks like someone’s jealous!
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>>98466648
Shadversity is the kind of retard that complains about things not being "realistic" in a fucking FANTASY game as if anybody with any amount of creativity gives a fuck.
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>>98479050
That and North 02 actually knows what he is talking about.
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>>98472966
Imagine thinking "luddite" is an insult, lol
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>>98482328
You being on a computer proves it is.
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retard lmfaoooooooooooooooooo
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>>98479007
>but Sanderson has now removed Shad from the acknowledgements of his books
Far as I can see he's acknowledged for the book he was consulted on and that hasn't changed.
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>>98466648
All I know about this guy is he pisses off the annoying faggots over at sellsword arts, so that's a plus in my mind.
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>>98471576
They hated him because he told the truth.
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>>98482357
I mean, it also means that Sanderson has chosen not to consult Shad again, despite having a previous history.
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>>98482345
A luddite isn't a primitivist, you mentally handicapped subcontinental.
Read more wikipedia pages, or whatever it is you do, before trying to converse with people.
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>>98482018
Nah, I can see his point on that. Sometime, people take the I can do what I want and ruin their setting and fantasy. Cause at the end of the day you have to sell the shit that don't make sense.
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>>98479179
>Media literacy has and has always been a spook
Just because everything is fractal doesn't mean there is a lack of awareness and access to truth.
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>>98482737
>that there is
Isn't a noticeable lack of*
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>>98469140
>Purple was historically very rare!" (Which we are slowly finding out isn't actually accurate. There were actually quite a few raw resources that could be used to make purple dye, it's just that historically people didn't stumble upon them.
Purple was so fucking rare it bankrupted Rome when an empress wanted more and more of it. There was a notable monopoly on the only known method to get it and this was a secret.
Not a single flag on earth uses purple because it's been so expensive and rare for so long.
However, your fantasy world can make every color rare or common.
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>>98466648
>Pretends to care about history
>Writes a book about a 12 year-old's power fantasy Dragonball Z fighting in the sky with magic

Many such cases
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>>98482768
At one point they have a point on adding something. However, when it comes to purple dyes, what regions would have what foods and spices, etc. You don't need to worry too much about it. However, bringing it up and making that a thing can be something that bring life into a world as it feel more than a sandbox where anything goes.
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>>98482777
Have you seen half of media lately. Most of western media, especially if Hollywood is in on it has been some woke fuck power fantasy. I mean look at dance with smurfs, I mean Avatar. Hell, half of the reboots are some woke bitch who makes their OC the new main character. Look at Star Wars, Velma, etc. That or they just using it as a platform to push their message. I mean the fucking queer that was writing Dr. Who admitted it. Then shocked that no one watches their shit. At what point do people admit, that the whole DEI hires were a mistake and they tanked classic IP cause they're too bad and too lazy to make their own shit.
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>>98466648
They watch youtube shorts where AI, or grifting faggots literally read wiki articles word for word.
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>>98467915
Vulkan and Salamanders are heckin TEDDY BEAR chungus wuvvy wuvvy. Also, LE SHOVEL KRIEG XDDDDD. TTS has done an ungodly amount of damage to 40k discussion.
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>>98482768

It should be noted that you could get purple from cheaper sources, but often they didn't stay purple for very long.
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>>98467979
>More interested in the individual components of the setting rather than any of the primary sources that involve those components.
Kinda tends to come with autism, don't you think?
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>>98482737
stop using gpt faggot
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>>98467979
the primary sources are boring trash
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>>98483470
>midwit assume anyone talking intelligently must be using gpt
just because that's what you use to talk intelligently, doesn't mean other people need it
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>>98482777
how are those incompatible ?
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>>98471993
They wish, really it reads like a metaphysical timeshare pitch, imo. Remember that this comes with the promise that to stay in the church you must give 10% of your income each month.
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>>98475203
>>98475165
Correct. I make a smut comic and I have to draw the panels myself then inpaint. Other comics being made with AI are by people who absolutely dont know what an angle is. That coincides with a lot of amatuer, crappy comics ive read where its just 4 to 9 panel block layouts, flat straight on angles, and word walls. AI can do a lot but people have to know to want dynamic looking stuff in order to ask for it.
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>>98482768
>Purple was so fucking rare it bankrupted Rome when an empress wanted more and more of it. There was a notable monopoly on the only known method to get it and this was a secret.
So no one just mixed red stuff with blue stuff? I know all that stuff about albacore shells but there must have been regular dye produces mixing colors.
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>>98466683
I had a fucker rob me once... i burned his million doller crop of weed to the ground. kek. get fucked loser. you don't bang.
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>>98466648
D&D is for fat people who can't get pussy. kek.
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>>98484536
No you didnt.
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>>98484559
yeah i did and he later killed himself. fucker was an asshole and everyone hated him.
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>>98484497
I think it's abalone. Albacore is a fish. As to dyes, organic dyes don't necessarily behave the way the way paints and stuff we're used to now do. Stuff can rot or congeal or harden if you mix it with the wrong materials.
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>>98484497
Blueberry can be used to make a sort of purple but it won't look like murex
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>>98466648
TTRPGS appeal to nerds and, unlike what those high school movies told you, nerds tend to be despicable, miserable, unlikeable faggots
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>>98466966
>channel about historical swordfighting
>by a retard too fat to swing a sword or move in general
How did he even get popular in the first place
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>>98485695
The same way pretty much every early Youtuber did: there was simply no-one else doing what he did in his niche so he built an audience, and now when there are alternatives he is kept afloat by momentum and an established base.
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>>98482018
No he isn't. His setting has magical airships and the setting his the entire world falling in a perpetual loop. What he would complain about is internal consistency and a setting following its fantasy components to their logical conclusion. He's really not some kind of mudcore realismfag.

His deficiencies are that he has terrible taste, his ideas are fucking dumb as shit and it seems like he's never once had a second thought or double checked any of his own work once in his life. However the public reaction to his book seems to have put him off writing forever so that worked out.
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Is there a review of his shit ass book made by an actual human being? searching shadow of the conqueror on Youtube just feeds me a bunch of leftist grifters with voices that are about as pleasant to hear as metal scraping on metal
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>>98485770
I don't think so. The book is really fucking bad but nobody would bother making an entire review of some random's shitty book that wasn't popular or successful unless they have an ax to grind with the author, which in this case is mostly leftist grifters. If you aren't a culture warrior, why would you dip your toes into a topic that is going to attract unhinged lunatics from both sides of the culture war? And if you are a culture warrior on the right, you would either have to defend Shadman's weird pedo book which would make you look bad, or rightfully criticize it which would cause infighting making the whole thing counterproductive.
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>>98484536
Based. I remember people struggling with that mission
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>>98468041
I love Dark Souls and the like but those games genuinely attract the most retarded subhuman mouthbreather types imaginable
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>>98485823
>defend Shadman's weird pedo book which would make you look bad,
In defense of the weird pedo book, I don't think he was deliberately writing a weird pedo book. I think that by trying to make his protagonist as bad as possible by making him a pedo, and because the entire point was to write a redemption story for the worst possible character, and because he's a bad writer and put no thought whatsoever into what that those inputs would result in, he ended up with "and the murderous pedo is the good guy, actually".
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>>98485871
>"Hmm how to redeem the elderly deposed dictator who is murderous pedophile?"
>"I'll have him magically be made younger and give him superpowers, then have him kill a shitload of people!"
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>>98485871
Well yeah, without further evidence I would default on assuming incompetence on Shad's part. I generally don't assume anything about the writer's actual worldview or beliefs based on their work because there's always a good chance that they just fumbled on what they were trying to get across. But the point is that a fictitious right-wing culture warrior wouldn't want to defend such a book because people would assume he liked the book because it was a weird pedo book, or at the very least has a reputation of a weird pedo book.
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>>98485909
I mean how many of "you're not SUPPOSED to like Rorschach you know"
Or Paul Verhoeven that repeatedly makes the thing he dislikes end looking as the coolest shit ever.
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>>98485909
I think it would take a extremely bad faith interpretation to read it as being pro-pedo, because the whole framing of the protagonist's past is that everything he did was awful, the part that is ludicrous is to take that character and turn him into a overpowered shonen anime protagonist and have him do a bunch of generic fantasy ultraviolence and expect the reader to not be hung up on the fact that he's a serial child molester responsible for killing tens of thousands of people.
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>>98485823
Hey, I have read terrible books and reviewed them on Goodreads before and I have only enriched Bezos in the process
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>"You're a genocidal maniac, a rapist, and a pedophile!"
>"Yes."
Is possibly the most memorable two lines of dialogue I've read in a book. Very funny.
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>>98485988
It didn't work for Terry Goodkind and he didn't even write pedoshit, just similar awful tripe
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>>98485871
based
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>>98482737
Are you like an inch away from using the term Hylic or something?
Media literacy is a term that people bandy about because they are under the assumption they can consume art better than other people.
that they are more cultured, more dedicated and everyone else just doesn't.
I do not care if there is a "turn you brain off" 70 iq mouthbreather (henceforth steve) who exists.
anyone can turn into a steve about anything so long as they enjoy the work.
I hate to bring up philo 1000 dogshit but the mind is slave to the heart.

>>98483572
Being direct is best for everyone.
I've had to curb my own instinct to becoming a fart sniffing artist and use overtly flowery language.
I don't know why you used "fractal" here because it just seems confusing
your statement really didn't have substance to it.
What you're trying to set up is that "yeah actually they have a point there's a lot of steves alive and there is an objective way to be literate" and i don't think you've reached that watermark in argument.
you're just being a steve.
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>>98483572
You are not talking intelligently, LOL
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>>98485871
He wrote a book about a dictator who won and lost control of his life, drowning himself in serial child rapist murder parties. After not dying to being killed, he decides to turn his life around and become the Punisher (aka somebody who can blow up a Project and magically only bury the drug dealers under the rubble).
Much of the plot is then him talking to a naked magic negro regarding how morally correct he was to kill these particular people by torturing them to death.

He also vowed to kill all of his children, because growing up under the reign of a dictator who lost control of his life and became a serial child rapist murderer probably fucked most of them up hard.

Meanwhile, another naked magic negro harasses one of the survivors of the dictator's child rape murder orgies.
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>>98486093
Rape tentacle pits
Universal Evil Chicken
The most dangerous and evil anti-war activists
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>>98488381
Honestly can't even recall other examples of authors making characters who are so obviously wrong while the author insists their shit doesn't stink
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>>98488370
Is this just "that time Epstein took over the nation and then was reincarnated into the Punisher to burn everything he built in his last life." or am I tripping?
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>>98488520
I understand that Epstein's the kinda guy who think that alternating between fake geniality and being unpleasant and weird is the ultimate social power move. Those paintings of US Presidents of his were part of his established strategy of socializing with people.

The book MC just wants to kill. His character development is that he wants him killing somebody to be metaphysically correct from now on.
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>>98488507
Dare I say ...Atlas Shrugged?
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>>98488599
Oh yeah, I guess every Objectivist novel will be like that though
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>>98488507
That's basically The Watchmen.

At the same time Alan Moore tried to shit on Steve Ditko making a character that was basically a knockoff of his favorite characters he made (The Question/Mr. A) be seen as a loser and made to be hated. Which I find funny cause when Rorschach became the fan favorite and was seen as the true hero and best character in the series. He got piss and whine people didn't get it.
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>>98488665
You aren't supposed to hate Rorschach nor is Ozymandias supposed to be correct. Alan Moore just doesn't like people who think Rorschach is a hero or an aspirational character. You're supposed to understand that there is something admirable in his philosophy and worldview while at the same time understanding that he is a deeply deranged serial killer.
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>>98488665
>>98488678
His dedication to doing "the right thing" was admirable, but ultimately, the difference between him and Ozzie man was that Rorschach was a trash-eating bum. He couldn't set the world on fire the same way, but he sure did give it his best shot.
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>>98488599
everything in that book was right
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>>98488665
everyone got it, moore's beliefs are just wrong
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>>98489280
A story about capitalists deciding that their morale stance was more important than making infinite money sounds realistic to you?
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>>98488665
Friendo you aren't supposed to like ozymandias in watchmen. You're supposed to be thinking about whether he's justified in doing the horrible shit he does for the "greater good". Just because the villain succeeds doesn't mean the author implicitly approves their moral stance and is advocating for it.
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>>98488520
If epstein was also Stalin Hitler.
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>>98489380
It really is amazing that the story ends with the line: "i leave it entirely in your hands", and some people still try to argue that Moore intended for us to come away with a specific conclusion about who is right and who is wrong.
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>>98488665
I always find it funny how nobody gives the faintest fuck about Nite Owl despite him taking up the most screentime of the comic. Guess nobody likes a loser faggot who stands for nothing.
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>>98489450
I appreciate that the author at least wrote the story in a way that people with reading comprehension can understand the message. It doesn't matter if secondaries don't get it, not everyone likes dissecting stories like they did in English class or actually has the ability to do so while reading a story without ruining the reading experience and I respect that.

It could be worse, it could be Attack on Titan unironically pushing their rebranded Nazis as the good guys.
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>>98471642
Yeah, when you’re referring to his regressive politics you are only talking about his religion I am sure
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>>98490154
better*
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>>98466702
And it's still up a week later because there's no quality control anymore
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>>98482703
“Luddite” is indeed shorthand for primitivist, or rather they commonly intersect. If you called someone afraid of technology a primitivist it would be an exaggeration, but has a reasonable chance of being correct given the nature of the term. Everyone knows the Luddites were people scared of losing their jobs to machinery, the term hasn’t been commonly used to refer to the group specifically for like a century dude.
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>>98484564
That’s not true, I’m alive and everyone loves me. You owe us all a lot of chronic bro, puff puff pay nigga
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>>98471576
The AI pic has a lot of good things in it, but like is often the case, it clashes. If it was animated, you'd recoil.
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>>98490154
>everything I dont like is nazis
You need help.
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>>98466648
>especially now that D&D
rent free + nogamez
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>>98490480
>keep a specific ethnic group in ghettos.
>specific ethnic group is forced to wear armband identifying them as such at all times
>use them as front lines cannon fodder and the ghetto is a literal breeding program.
>occasionally just take them away and execute them en masse for whatever reason
>currently in the process of 'liquidating' the population of said ghettos
>long term project is to purge them and their one remaining independent island's population from existence
>imperialistic force where everyone and everything is devoted to the glory of the state

Damn I must really be seeing things huh?

At the very least I feel like making them the "good guys" without any actual objection to them having second class citizens raised for the sole purpose of breeding more of them so you can turn them into mindless man eating monsters to fuel your dreams of global domination is questionable at best.
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>>98490154
>Attack on Titan unironically pushing their rebranded Nazis as the good guys.
AoT don't push the Merlayians as "good guy", it just don't portray them as pure evil nor portray the Eldians as simply "good guys fighting against oppression and fascism"
the whole story is about the cycle of oppression and how a group who where oppressed might take power and become as evil as it's previous dominant group and that being oppress isn't a moral high ground or a blanche card to do whatever you want against random people of the "oppressor" group
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>>98490576
Nice lecture, shame I wont be reading it.
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>>98490819
No, the author was pushing the generic anime "killing/war is bad" resulting in an incredibly stupid scenario where the author was arguing against counterattacking your enemy when you were in the middle of a centuries long genocidal war and then added the extra stupidity of said opponent successfully exterminating every other race on the fucking continent and making them a Nazi stand in so his fellow japs could feel like their side in WW2 weren't objectively terrible in addition to being on the losing side.

The smart choice would be to make the situation a hard choices spot where it doesn't matter what they did you can't best them and have to make peace and pray they don't curb stomp you before you get something to properly defend yourself but the author doesn't want to write realpolitik he wants shounen.

There's no way the island becomes the oppressor- the narrative only works if it was likely they would win but from the first scenes where we see of the outside world they're already discussing how the era of titans as unbeatable superweapons is at an end. So you can't claim it's some oppressor cycle especially when the end of the series does all that retroactive bullshit with Eren to guarantee that this exact scenario would take place making the cycle concept irrelevant as entire scenario was handmade by one person.
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>>98490908
> No, the author was pushing the generic anime "killing/war is bad"
I disagree. I would argue any kind of message perceived as such is just displaying the realities of war rather than an overt attempt at propaganda like you’re suggesting. You are being reductive in the extreme.
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>>98468041
Shut the fuck up about Elden Ring and media literacy, for fuck's sake. Souls games are nihilistic slop at the best of times. They're almost asset flips for how coherent they are in execution and composition. Ridiculous.
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>>98490990
Okay anon. Since it looks like you don't have any disagreement with my argument against your points but disagree with what is an admittedly shaky projection of author intent based on common anime tropes I'll take that.

That kind of leaves us with poorly jistified good guy nazi standins that the author either intentionally put in or was too dumb to notice neither of which shine a positive look on the author, the material, nor the fans of the work.
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>>98490334
No it isn't retard
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>>98490908
>Eldian orinaly used titan powers to oppress other people
>One of their subjects, the Marleyans, manage to overthrow them, and now that they and went full nazu oppressing the Eldians and other people
Here you already have the whole cycle and oppressed becoming oppressor, Eren taking the founding Titan and wanting to genocide the rest of humanity is the cycle going on another turn
You are just sperging out because AoT isn't following the scrip of nazi=auto bad + oppressed minority=auto good

>in the middle of a centuries long genocidal war
there's no genocidal war in the first seassons of AoT, just regular war where eldians were used as weapons
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>>98490576
also
>>long term project is to purge them
no, that was Zack's plan, eldians were to valuable of a weapon for Marley and they had no intention of getting rid of their bio nukes
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>>98491313
>eren is another turn in the cycle.
No, that's whats dumb about it. Eren creates the conditions for the "cycle" and it's "conclusion" resulting in there being no cycle even if you wanted to argue that there was one because he uses magic futuresight powers to set up it's beginning and end. This is what retcons and perfect futuresight magic do and why it ruins your argument.
I haven't even had to argue against the concept of the cycle of violence and I'm not going to because I literally work with someone in real life who uses that as an unironic excuse to genocide the fucking jews.
>you're sperging out because nazis aren't Automatically bad
Ah, the old adhom. If you say so it must be true.
>it's not genocide they're just sending tides of flesh eating giant zombies in their direction and sending saboteurs to destroy their defenses.
I'm starting to think anon is arguing in bad faith.
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>>98491460
Wait I got lost here.
Who are supposed to be nazi?
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>>98491159
Yes it is. Luddites are associated with fear of technology, which aligns with primitivism. Anyone calling a primitivist a Luddite would be understood without confusion by a native English speaker. Please stop splitting hairs like a massive faggot, it looks poorly on you.
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>>98491977
The Luddites weren't primativists, though. What the actual fuck are you smoking? That's not even remotely a correct connection to make.
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>>98491977
No it isn't retard
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>>98491043
He intentionally put it in, the justification doesn’t have to be a good one. It’s not trying to be a moral work, but a story. It shouldn’t shine a positive work on the author, or the material, or fans. It also shouldn’t shine a negative light. It should just be. It would be something if the work were overtly masturbatory, but it’s not. At least in my personal opinion.
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Four simple words;

BOOT. TO. THE. HEAD.
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>>98490154
The fuck are you talking about? Having you even watch/read Attack on Titan at all?
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>>98490576
This just sounds like the US. The only thing we don't do is limit ourselves to one ethnic group or need armbands.
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>>98494368
............ You're retarded. I swear, tourists everywhere proving they don't know what the fuck they're talking about
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>>98494388
Note how there's no refutation, chuddie just gets mad a different opinion exists that he can't get b&.
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>>98466973
>so there was a strong backlash for his regressive ideas
you need to go back, anon.
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>>98494407
Fine I will bite. You're full of shit cause
>keep a specific ethnic group in ghettos.
>specific ethnic group is forced to wear armband identifying them as such at all times
If any of this shit was fucking true, why do we have floods of illegals from every fucking ethnic group?
>use them as front lines cannon fodder and the ghetto is a literal breeding program.
Whites and those from military families are by far the largest group that join the volunteer only military.
>occasionally just take them away and execute them en masse for whatever reason
That's fucking fake news and everyone knows it.
>currently in the process of 'liquidating' the population of said ghettos
God I hate this gay shit. If you renting for 30 years and whining rent goes up due to supply and demand. That's on you
>long term project is to purge them and their one remaining independent island's population from existence
Who when and where?
>imperialistic force where everyone and everything is devoted to the glory of the state
I love when America says they going to leave from a region people start to panic and cry they are being abandon by America. You see this happen in EU often when America threaten to leave the area.
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>>98479632
That's because JW are legit the least fun branch off of Christianity.
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>>98482373
I respect Sellsword Arts to a point for his ability but I think he's very onions coded. Him telling people to stop watching if they voted for Trump is legit more political than anything Shad's ever done.
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>>98490334
>well you see my fellow fuckwitted pajeets have put it into practice to misuse this term severely
>so that's what it means now
READ MORE WIKIPEDIA PAGES, DUNGEET.
I AM NO LONGER ASKING.
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>>98494443
>Fine I will bite. You're full of shit cause
You immediately missed how I said we don't limit ourselves to one ethnic group or need armbands. Try having reading comprehension, guy.
>Whites and those from military families are by far the largest group that join the volunteer only military
50% of the enlisted armed forces are white. 23% are Black. 7% are Asian. 20% are Hispanic. This means black people are 2x as likely to join, Hispanics are slightly more likely to join, Asians are near perfectly average, and Whites are the LEAST likely to join.
https://api.army.mil/e2/c/downloads/2022/11/15/62a2d64b/active-component-demographic-report-october-2022.pdf
And of those Whites, they tend to be poor as fuck too.
>That's fucking fake news and everyone knows it.
Not a refutation.
>God I hate this gay shit.
Not a refutation.
>Who when and where?
Selective literacy lol. It's hard to square your chuddie conspiracy theories with this one isn't it?
>I love when America says they going to leave from a region people start to panic and cry
People?
Which people?
The ones we paid to turn traitor for a quick buck like every single imperialist project ever has done?
Oh. Well, guess that's why you dodged addressing the statement :)
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>>98494467
Remember it's cause the right don't boycott or call out this shit. If someone was to do the same to those who voted for Biden or Harris. People will cry racism or sexism and try to cancel them. Once the right say fine we play by your rules fully and willing to cancelling people and companies like the left did. We see everyone change their tune like when bud light learn to shut up about pushing trans and all.
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>>98485770
>>98485823
>>98485871
>>98485909
>>98488520
>>98488370
The irony of bitching about Shad's book being 'pedo' is that the western sci fi and fantasy scene has had a genuine pedophile problem for nigh on 60+ years.

Read The Last Closet: The Dark Side of Avalon. It's pretty harrowing, and actually involves real people instead of witchunting a mormon who can't write.
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>>98489363
Henry Ford existed, so yes.
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>>98494485
>Remember it's cause the right don't boycott or call out this shit
They do this all the time, though. The truth is chuds are just unpopular and unlikeable. Even shad doesn't really like them and just has weird mormon beliefs because of how mormons are brought up.
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>>98494486
Don't forget IT. They have a whole part where the "losers" ran a fucking train on the girl member and it's in fucking detail.
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>>98494495
The fuck are you talking about? Outside of like Bud Light what did the "Right" boycott? Not just some random person but the right as a whole?
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>>98494494
Because he refused to make cars in colors other than black?
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>>98466980
>obsession with sex and rape[Focused entirely on ungerage girls].
Based
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>>98494485
Unfortunately the right has a live and let live mindset as far as politics go, or as least a good amount do. I personally stopped watching Sellsword after that but it would have been nice to see actual anger over him being such a cunt to one of his fans.

I think it's partially why things got so bad. "I don't agree with what he says but I respect his right to say it" is a grand moral principle until pic related happens.
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>>98494504
>The fuck are you talking about?
You?
> Outside of like Bud Light what did the "Right" boycott?
Every company ever whenever it becomes June? I always see chuddies seething and screaming "get woke go broke!" all the time. You've supposedly been boycotting D&D since they put a nigger in the 5th edition PHB.
The right didn't even boycott bud light. Normal people just don't like troons (justifiably so, they're as repulsive as chuds).
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>>98494505
I can't tell if you're baiting or not, anon.

>>98494499
What's even weirder about that is King has said it was supposedly about how they 'bonded' during it. Like he sees them running a train on her in the fucking sewers and treats like a social link in Persona.

I don't think King is a pedo, but that and a few other things he's written really make me wonder.
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>>98494515
>Unfortunately the right has a live and let live mindset as far as politics go, or as least a good amount do
They're in perma seethe perma lose mode because they're cowardly reactionaries, and reactionaries are by definition incapable of winning.
It's also not really surprising for a youtuber to get away with mocking a political party that nobody outside of the 50+ age demographic gives a serious fuck about.
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>>98494516
........ Again, I said the right as a whole. Not some random fucker. Also I haven't bought D&D since they got rid of half-elves.

Also I noticed more and more companies have stop jumping on with the gay shit on June. So it might be working
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>>98494520
>I can't tell if you're baiting or not, anon.
Been a while since I've seen his biopic, but the reference seems legit.
He was somewhat reluctant to innovate after settling on Model T, it wasn't until his son (or was it nephew?) took over they started branching out into other models done in other colors.
Also the assembly line idea originally comes from a slaughterhouse.
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>>98494535
>........ Again, I said the right as a whole.
And? That was the right as a whole.
>Not some random fucker
Didn't say it was.
>Also I haven't bought D&D
So you agree with me then and you're boycotting D&D. Yet they're still making bank. So in other words... Chuddie boycotts don't work because your views are unpopular.
>Also I noticed more and more companies have stop jumping on with the gay shit on June
No, not really. Chuds lie like they breathe though and would prefer to pretend they're winning before actually doing anything at all to win.
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>>98494520
At one point, I don't think he is. However, King love calling others pedos. So maybe he could be too
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>>98494543
Anon Henry Ford quite famously lost a lawsuit over not fucking his customers hard enough. Focusing on his autism around paint seems largely secondary to that.
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>>98489280
Which is why nothing it predicts came to pass and the closest example you could think of it pertaining to reality predates the book, right?
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>>98494505
The point was efficiency of scale. Instead of having am X, LX, LE, XX, S, and LS model of the same car with slightly different features all of which can come in six different colors he simplified manufacturing by limiting variety and thus allowing easing of logistix strain and not needing to slow down shit with retooling lines or swapping paint.
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>>98494544
>And? That was the right as a whole.
No, no it's not
>Didn't say it was.
Who the fucker then?
>So you agree with me then and you're boycotting D&D. Yet they're still making bank. So in other words... Chuddie boycotts don't work because your views are unpopular.
To be fair, it's more of WOTC hasn't made anything good for D&D since 2018/19, and I tend to play better TTRPGs like ACKS, X Without Number, etc.
>No, not really. Chuds lie like they breathe though and would prefer to pretend they're winning before actually doing anything at all to win.
Dude, it's been reported everywhere. Hell, even the fags whine it was rainbow capitalism or whatever the fuck they called it. Don't lie and try to act like it's not happen
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>>98494580
>No, no it's not
Yes, yes it is.
>Who the fucker then?
I didn't say any particular fucker. Reading comprehension is something chuddies will never get good at it seems.
>To be fair, it's more of WOTC hasn't made anything good for D&D since 2018/19
Sure they have, that's why they're still in business.
>and I tend to play better TTRPGs
I'm sure you larp about playing them at least. Actually play, I doubt it because chuds rarely engage in actually having hobbies.
But at the end of the day, you can't deny that 5e is wildly popular and the games you larp aren't.
>Dude, it's been reported everywhere.
Provide me empirical proof, you have 10 minutes.
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>>98466648
I still cant process the fact that he tried to make his Epstein Hitler MC into a character we should cheer for.
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>>98494590
>Provide me empirical proof
Kill shot. Chuds hate empiricism and love vibes. They would unironically all adore rules-lite PBTA type slop (Half the games they shill basically are that with a trad coat on) if they learned to get over themselves because it's all vibes and they prefer that to discussing hard realities.
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>>98494611
Yep. The only times you'll see their kind discuss anything approaching facts is when they think doing so will piss off their counterparts.
Really, they'd love to roleplay as plucky rebels and poor little victims (who are still narratively and mechanically powerful/invincible), but hobbies are more of a status symbol thing so they can't engage with it. Tabletop in particular you need to be at least somewhat ensouled to seriously engage with.
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>>98494590
>Provide me empirical proof, you have 10 minutes.
NTA so it's late.
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>>98494640
>NTA
No.
It says "Opinion" in the title. This is the factual opposite of empirical. Will chuds ever learn to read, even if we put them into literacy camps?
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>>98494645
You'll have to deal with the thumbnail. I'm not subscribing just to prove some faggot wrong.

Now please stop samefagging about chuds and starting slapfights. You are actively making both the hobby and this board worse.
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>>98494659
>You'll have to deal with the thumbnail.
The thumbnail proves it's not empirical, so you were wrong.
> I'm not subscribing just to prove some faggot wrong.
No need, you're already proving yourself wrong.
>Now please stop samefagging
As always, the chud accuses others of what he so, so painfully obviously does, and he thinks everyone else is too stupid to see it.
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>>98494640
>>98494659
Corporations also stopped pushing fat acceptance. They do so because they have no politics beyond line goes up, everybody must suffer.
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>>98494664
>Give me proof
>Shows proof
>I am not going to count it as proof cause it proves me wrong and I can just look away.
This is why your side ends up losing. Once the normies see you flip out and act like fucking toddlers. Wait, toddlers act more mature than you fags. Like spoiled brats and divas. They question your "science and critical thinking skills." In other words you want to know why more and more people don't trust the science. Look in the mirror as well as the fag who lied and plead the 5th over 100 times.
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chudGODS, how do we stop winning all the time?
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>>98492017
I didn’t say the Luddites were primitivists you idiot. I said that fear of technology aligns with primitivism, which it does, and that if you called a primitivist a Luddite it would be understood entirely by any native. Which it would.

>>98492038
Yes it is retard
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>>98469522
>>>/v/
I know it says "video games" but that's actually what you're NOT supposed to discuss there
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>>98494472
>well you see my fellow fuckwitted pajeets have put it into practice to misuse this term severely
That is how the word has been used for almost two centuries. Your people should never have been given access to the internet.
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>>98494981
>they have no politics beyond line goes up
Wrong. Corpos are made out of people and lots of people actively used their power and money to push that shit. Everybody has always known ugly and faggot shit sells less. This isn't a discovery. They just pushed it so hard they couldn't cope with the losses so they're slowly walking back.
They're still the same and they're still in power though.



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