>open urban fantasy rpg >oh btw all the words and rituals are jUsT tO hElP coNcEnTraTiOn and aren't actually magical at allHoly fuck this sucked in Cape comics, it sucked in Mage: The Ascension and it sucks today.Any fun urbfan systems where all the pomp and circumstance of Magic is genuinely embraced?
Shadowrun?
>>98486429>open urban fantasy rpgNigger you have to say which one so we know what you're even talking about.
>>98486429Beyond a personal preference, what’s wrong with it?
>>98486435Doesn't Shadowrun have like a dozen in-game ways to produce the same magical results?
In GURPS Cabal the fancy parts of magic are fairly essential, not just window-dressing:Magic words are inherently magical because they are lesser versions of Atziluth, the primal language used to create reality. Likewise runes and sigils are derived from the primal language.Astrological correspondences focus the power of the decans.Material components are somewhat symbolic, but the symbolism is fixed to the decan governing the spell and the laws of sympathy rather than being personal to the caster.I don't think it mentions gestures, but they might be anything from mere aides mémoire to fundamentally tied to the nature of reality via Atziluth.
>>98486429>>oh btw all the words and rituals are jUsT tO hElP coNcEnTraTiOn and aren't actually magical at allhelp concentration as in taping to your godly soul , or help in concentration as in aderal.
>>98487062The first one, but the authors wrote the word "concentration" and I'm autistic.
>>98486429I like City of Mist a LOT but it's a bit weird with the "Urban Fantasy" thing.
>>98486429prowlers and paragons
>>98486429>Any fun urbfan systems where all the pomp and circumstance of Magic is genuinely embraced?Old Cthulhutech.
>>98486429Dresden Files.Although the words can be anything. They are the trigger for a vocal component and even in that setting they aren't needed but your spell is going to be a lot weaker and consume a lot more energy if you don't use vocal components. It's seen as an incredibly stupid flex that will bite you in the ass if you don't employ their use because you only have so much gas in the tank.The same setting requires components for bigger spells and anything with permanency. Some of how well those components work are a matter of personal belief though. For example, you MUST use some kind of modeling compound to make a barrier, but since you personally think blue Play-Doh is better than red clay from Pittsburg, your barrier is stronger, but if a different magic user thinks the inverse is true then it is for when they cast that spell.Note that thought casting shit for magical beings is the norm as they basically are magic instead of beings using magic.I'm sure people will shit on Dresden Files (and it's completely deserved after the last couple of books) but it's just answering OPs question.
>>98487467I've only read the first couple of them. They seem cool, what happens in the last books?Also shame there's no rpg that does dresden files magic right.
>>98487115well , I think that is kind of a autistic hill to die on.based.
>>98486539You have to actually believe that it works the way you're doing it and then the results will reflect accuracy to your beliefs. Generic corpo mages think the spirits they summon are barely sentient elementals, so they are. Shamans think the spirits they summon are unique and have their own wants and needs, so they do. If you try to explain this, they'll both tell you that you're wrong.
>>98487511The Dresden Files RPG did a good job, but the system itself was shit.>What did the last couple of books do?Killed Murphy because she was his wife's favorite character and he got a divorce, so he had Murphy just get shot to death by some random guy.
>>98487552>Killed MurphyI pretend I do not see it
>>98486429>Any fun urbfan systems where all the pomp and circumstance of Magic is genuinely embraced?The fuck does this even mean? It's just a bunch of vaguely worded bullshit.
>>98487883Have an modern or slightly future setting where in order to cast a spell some mother fucker starts flinging out gang signs while reciting the lyrics to a rap album before finishing with the spells name and striking a pose.Shit, get some hype men involved for ritualistic casting so every time Lil John yells "OKAY!" it adds another layer to the spell or some shit. Ghetto riders blasting out Eldritch chants to power up wands for drive by castings where a hail of magic missiles fly out and miss all their targets but splatter a bunch of kids.Fuck, I'm talking myself into wanting a hood magic setting.
>>98487961They sounds gay as fuck
>>98488039Sounds like something a bitch ass nigga would say.
>>98486502The implication is that it's a problem with all urban fantasy RPGs, but OP is also a retard so take it with a grain of salt.
>>98488313No I just keep running into that and it's ruining the vibe.>>98487467>>98487395Thank you
>>98488785>no I'm just retarded I can tell.
>>98488785Again, what’s the issue exactly?
>>98489917NTA, but my interpretation of OP's question is that he wants an urban fantasy setting where magic is more complex than dudes being able to throw fireballs. I suggested Cthulhutech because it draws a very distinct line between psychic phenomena (people who can manifest fire) and sorcery (doing actual ceremonial ritual magick). The former is an on-demand ability while the latter takes prep time and proper execution.
>>98486429>houserule: using your free action to shout the spell's name while casting gives it +1 power, at the cost of not being very stealthyFixed it for you>Rituals don't have rulings and process in your systemHahahahaha sucks to be you
