if magic is trully an unlimited , wonderfull and mystical force of nature , that sometimes is even objectively good. why are women still a thing , why didn't it just remove them and replaced them with something better , like men crafting their own eggs , or just walking wombs. maybe walls of flesh that spawn babies at random
>>98487055>like men crafting their own eggsThat sounds incredibly homosexual anon.
>>98487055>why are women still a thingCause fucking other men is gay as fuckAnd not even wizard is willing to go there
>>98487055What is the point of asking this? What were you hoping to achieve with this thread?
>>98487055>womenwhy even have humans
>>98487055The real question is why men are still a thing.
>>98487122Wizzgas be usin' magic to turn theyselves into a bitch and suck and fuck anudda man an' den dey say dey ain't gay. Das tha kinna shyit wizzgas be doing. Thas wha magic doin' to a muddafukkah.
>>98487159>Innovative tactics are warranted.
>>98487055If magic is truly an unlimited, wonderful and mystical force of nature, that sometimes is even objectively good, why are (You) still a thing, why didn't it just remove you and replaced you with something better, like a biodegradable turd or a moderately annoying insect ultimately beneficial to the environment?
>>98487258what would be the suitable alternative? bodies of stone and iron? malleable ectoplasm? pure disembodied thoughtform?
>>98487418I am a woman anon , you fell into my trap , you are agreeing with me!
>>98487164they are valid magic batteries.a good in-between magic elemental and robot
>>98487088>>98487122everything women "can" do , men can do better.
>>98487551"woman" ((male goblin using glimmer))
>>98487580but then if I am a male goblin using glimmer , magic would make me exist anon.its a contradiction.
>>98487122> Be me> Fated to sire the most powerful arcane user ever.> Pushing 40> Can't find anyone> Shit shit shit> Clone self, belt of sex change> Yes regrets later> The most powerful arcanist(sorcerer) is born> Profecy (technically) fulfilledIntelligence 3, Charisma 19 is REALLY fun to roleplay, and the lack of intellect still just cost me 1 skill point/lvl!
You joke, but this is more or less where the entire idea of the homunculus in alchemy comes from. They wanted to figure out a way to grow sperm into a functional human without needing a woman.
>>98487055>if magic is trully an unlimited , wonderfull and mystical force of nature , that sometimes is even objectively good.It's not, stop being retarded.
>>98488316I thought they just wanted to crack the secrets of life , to make an androgenus twink that is better at alchemy or just because they were wizards.was it really out of sexism.
>>98487055What are you talking about. Magic always comes with a burden or bargain.Do you expect everyone conjuring the correct spell.
>>98487055> Seething incel with sour grapes can't understand why anyone else would ever want women to exist if he can't have oneYou know, in the past we wouldn't have to deal with you fuckers because you could just go and pay for sex at a brothel or something and get this shit out of your system.
>>98487055because homosexuals are infinitely worse, there are no male homosexuals in my settings
>>98487258This. In a world of widespread magical use, the inherent physical advantages of men have already become obsolete. Being taller and physically stronger is no longer meaningful when you have various kinds of force multiplies, like telekinesis or magic buffs or shapechanging into a bear.An immaculate conception spell, or even just magically giving themselves a dick for an hour or two whenever they want to sire a child, would allow a high-magic and all-female society to completely replace men. Because the male component of reproduction is an investment of genetic material and that's all, and everything else that men can do magic can do better.Replacing women, even with magic, is vastly more difficult a prospect because you unavoidably still need somewhere to incubate a baby and care for it after it is born. Replacing men needs only solve one problem, replacing women requires you to solve several different problems and if you fuck up even one of them the kid dies. Same holds true in the real world, actually. Fertilizing an egg in a lab with donor material harvested from skin cells can allow two women to have a baby with no need for a man *today*, but we still have zero ability to make an artificial womb.
>>98487055FOIDSLOP THREAD WOOO
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>>98488762Not technically true, artificial wombs have come quite a ways. Studies have been done, but the problem is that there are laws in a bunch of countries that limit how long you are allowed to grow embryos in one and thus develop the technology further.It's not complete lack of technology holding us back, we are at the starting gate and could easily jump start it, but a lack of political and societal will by factions who have problems with the ethics and inequality of it.
>>98487055I cannot imagine someone being as gay as you are and still be able to function in daily life. WTF do you have against tits and ass?
>>98487055It's a cycle.>Wizards eliminate the need for women>2 generations later, ignorant wizards use their mighty magical powers to summon outsider women.>Lust over logic, new women are born>New women multiple>Society collapses once more.>Wizards eliminate the need for women.Trust me, I made it all up so it's totally valid.
>>98487258magic cant listen to you complain about your coworkers. also ywnbaw
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>>98488560You're thinking of the Rebis or "divine hermaphrodite", which is something different. I think it's one of the bits rooted in Jewish mysticism, trying to recreate the original human from before God split it into Adam and Lilith.But yeah, considering a lot of historical alchemists' attempts to incubate a homunculus involved piles of manure and other unpleasant things as a substitute for a womb, one does get the sense they didn't have a very high opinion of women.
>>98487055Based.Op is a fag (compliment).
>>98487258Exactly. I fixed this issue (and reintroduced it with a villain) - by removing the sexual dimorphism of civilized races. All men are now shemales or futa. I fail to see the downsides.>>98490290Deflection won't bring you the answer- why are men needed or even wanted? Oh wait, men are neither.The solution, as it often is, is evolution and growth. Low level species still have an uglier sex to be used as a meat shield against their natural predators- and they are ugly so that they don't cause psychological or emotional damage by being lost. Indeed, their suffering might even be funny - and will grant a morale boost to their whole species.
>>98490591>Jewish mysticism,They presumably have some of those old stories indeed- but like always, the jew misunderstands the goal and sees no value in a natural method.They could read a book about slaying the evil serpent and they would twist it into a story of how we should mutilate baby genitals.Bit funny that our world has an inversion element that vile but oh well.
>>98487055*rips a great pepperoni fart down your throat*
>>98487556>men can bounce their tits betterNah.Not until women evolve to have taste or outgrow their 'prison gay' attraction to the ogre sex.
>>98490636That's a whole lot of words I'm not going to read.
>>98488962>It's not complete lack of technology holding us back, we are at the starting gate and could easily jump start it, but a lack of political and societal will by factions who have problems with the ethics and inequality of it.Doesn't that mean that the other anon is right tho and we can't make vatborn humans yet? If we can't get past the starting line, odds are good that if we did try to do the full gestation that way we'd run into a bunch of problems we haven't have the chance to encounter before.
>>98487055Magic isn't unlimited in 3.5 Forgotten Realms. Back before Mystra nerfed magic, so many people used magic that she couldn't readily keep track of every magical thing going on. That's how Karsus killed her.
>>98490923I hate to say it, but our only hope lies with China, the only player with advanced enough technology and atrophied enough sense of ethics to go through with that sort of research.
>>98491011There are no ethics anywhere besides some good-hearted folk scattered here and there.There is a bureaucratic machine that's volatile, vile, vulgar and hostile. It wants taxation. It protects circumcision. It feeds off of war and misery. >muh ethicsThat's show to avoid responsibility, so that the showrunners can rape kids on their private islands.What is holding us back is mass psychosis and psychopathy. Both results of mass retardation and lack of ethics.
>>98491011I wouldn't call that 'hope' anon, that sounds like disaster. Nothing good will come from the state having an incentive to centralize reproductive rights and ability out of the hands of the people. > The state made you, the state raised you, the state loves you, the state is mother and father. Love the state. To not love the state is treason. To love anyone other than the state is treason. To lust is treason, and you will consent to your sterilization and the removal of all sexual desire. Any form of intercourse is an illegal act in which you infringe on the state's authority as the only legitimate holder of the power of reproduction. You have no need of it. You will neither sire nor raise children. That is not your purpose. Your purpose is to serve the state. That is the reason that the state made you, and if you cannot fill that role the state and the world has no place for you. Congrats, you've turned humans into ants.
>>98490652For what it's worth, I don't think most of the old European alchemists were Jewish (Nostradamus' family was, but they supposedly converted later) just that they took inspiration from a lot of Kabbalistic Jewish texts, as well as Islamic and Egyptian stuff, what with the Crusader Kingdoms granting European scholars access to religious and alchemical texts from the mid-east and North Africa.
>>98491237Kabbalah is what the Hyksos stole from Egypt, mixed with the blasphemous materials from Babylon. Yggrdasil is the Norse variant of the kabbalistic tree. Jews just managed to murder all others who were in the know.
>>98491122Making a child is still so easy people end up doing it on accident, and raising it is already permeated by state mandated indoctrination. Designer babies that are loaded with desirable traits and scrubbed clean of genetic flaws wouldn't become mainstream mankind, but next generation's elite.
What do you get out of hating women? Honestly.
>>98491298Civilization
>>98491278>scrubbed clean of genetic flawsThe problem is that the designers are deeply flawed and worship their own denial.Therefore, whilst all might still get the idea that a big penis is good- agreements on other factors won't necessarily make the cut. Intelligence? Most 150+ iq are lonely as fuck.Empathy? Psychos hate the trait because it's like everybody else sees a world of colors and butterflies but they are stuck with some crummy grey rocks. However, the psychos are also narcissistic as hell so they're in a permanent war to validate their increased blindness, rather than baggage from subhuman epochs- similar to ass and nipple hair. Skill and talent may be genetic, but we have barely scratched the surface. Widespread gene editing was utilized not to improve the species, but to accrue medical conditions so that humans could be parasitized further. I would have just given the tard masses unibrows so that they'd have to shave their shame for having fallen for such an obvious scam. Narcissistic types won't like it if their sons outrank them or outgrow them. So they'll add in some control features... >>98491298NTA, but I feel every emotion when it comes to women. Women sometimes even do it on purpose.
>>98491306No, women are a paradoxical being indeed, but civilization is stagnated by the hatred of women. If there is a flaw in women, it's their attraction to men. Every generation, they choose to breed with creatures>hairier than they are>smellier than they are>uglier than they are>more dehumanized than they areThey are just forming a subhuman servitor ogre for themselves. The lack of empathy is staggering- but it's not like men deserve any better on a collective level.At best, we can issue a change to this cycle- if we find the heroine archetype; one who would save the (best) princes from the dragoness..
>>98491278At first. Now think more than one step ahead. First it becomes a toy for the rich to make designer babies. Then having the BEST designer babies becomes a national security issue, because the country that can make the strongest, smartest people has an inherent advantage. Leaving designer babies up to independent companies is no longer allowed, they become government contracted to maintain power and keep secrets from foreign adversaries. As the elites are replaced with neohumans, eventually no one in a position of power ISNT a neohuman anymore, vanilla paleohumanity has been out-competed by our evolutionary successor. Paleohumans become marginalized in society for being unnecessary resource drains. If they don't have the means and will to violently overthrow their neohuman elite it is already too late to prevent the extinction of paleohumanity, everything after that becomes inevitable. Getting rid of the worthless paleohumans becomes a net benefit to society, because they are objectively just worse than real people as the world now recognizes them, and preventing them from breeding is seen as the most painless and humane way to let that play out. The state becomes the sole holder over the power of reproduction, because thats what its always wanted since it took over the designer baby companies and because thats how it keeps the lowly paleohumans from continuing as a plague upon the world.Somewhere during the above, the state finds it convenient to add to the list of desirable qualities in neohumans the virtue of 'obedience'. See >>98491122
>>98491375I'll happily take that over far more likely future where bulk of mankind ends up looking like starfield npcs.
>>98491426Nobody ever said that the resulting neo-humanity would be white, anon. The cultures most likely to embrace such a system are unironically China and India.
>>98488628so women are some horrible bargain.
>>98488762woman are horrible at magic , they are the worst at everthing.
>>98491480Men are what women spread their legs to, and women are what men stick it into.If you truly have a problem with that, perhaps its the taste and dignity of your own sex that should be put under scrutiny.
>>98489086wise anon.
>>98491485If you wanna get technical under Geneva conventions restricted or selective breeding of humans does classify as a genocide.
>>98487055this would be so funny>dispel magic>entire lineage disappears
>>98491501Men aren't a race or ethnicity.
>>98491391It depends.>All female world where the women are hot and dont actually act like women and the last man alive is in chains having to please them allMans fantasy>All female world where all the woman are pretty and wear ridiculously fashionable outfits and they all have to fight for the last few Chads aliveWomens fantasy>All female world where the women are men and dont need no actual men Dyke fantasy>All female world where the women are petite, silly, magical gurls who go on adventures to defeat the evil male sorcererTroon fantasy
>>98487055What systems or fantasy novels are you pulling this nonsense from? Cite your sources, faggot.
>>98491480Only when you see women as magical beings. But that would just throws a bad light on you.
>>98491853RaHoWa, obviously.
>>98487055>He doesn't know about the spell that make women smell like cake
>>98494008Nah, Racists love women of the same colour they are.The far left may be a convergent "Omnicause", but the far right is rather variant.
>>98492335I cast rank four "Black Girl Magick".Resist Pow 13 against spirit spell.
>>98494816>convergent "Omnicause"They purity-test too much for this.
>>98491426They won't be white. They won't be "mutts" either. Race is for paleohumans who were just born with genes. The feral neo's who escape the State may or may not breed the ones after them.
>>98488962>>98490923We've been making "cabbage patch" babies for centuries. Jerry Seinfeld is convinced his parents are lab-grown babies.
>>98494816Never ask a white supremacist the color of his wife.
>>98494873That's why their schema is fracturing.They demand adherents "update their firmware" too frequently.A consequence of trying to boil the frog too quickly.>>98497096Name one.
>>98487055Why are you gay?
