list of systems : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Superhero_role-playing_gamesWhat happened in your last session?
>>98487386The party beat up the villain in his secret lair atop the space needle and destroyed his giant roller coaster transformer robot. I'd like to give more details, but this was about 20 years ago.
My last game sucked. I'll talk about one that I enjoyed.>Mutants & masterminds 2e with friends>session whofuckingknows of campaign, the PCs get captured>next session is them in a super prison inside a volcano trying to escape that is also the big bad's base>big bad wants to turn them to his side, and that's why they were kept alive>one member of the team isn't there, an assassin turned good guy vigilante>nullifier devices around their necks with bombs, so no super powers available>they manage to escape their cells anyway thanks to the power armor hero guy's technical skills>recover power armor guy's suit, and he disables the collars>ohshititsonnow.exe>during escape, vigilante guy turns up and attacks the physically weakest hero (telekinetic/telepath girl) just before the team gets on their jet>arrangement had been made at start of campaign between me and assassin/vigilante that he would play a mole for the big bad>this session would be his last because he was having to go out of town for several months for work>that's why I captured the team the previous session>his attack used a puts her on death's door while the team battles some recurring supe bad guys at the jet hangar, which is right over the caldera of the volcano>assassin/vigilante gets knocked over the platform the jet is on, which is over the volcano's caldera>battle goes team's way, and they make it on to the jet>as they are leaving, telekinetic/telepath girl sees assassin/vigilante holding on to the side of some supports for the jet platform, and uses her telekinesis to throw him off to his deathI was gonna make an opening to bring the assassin/vigilante guy back if the game was still going when he got back from his work thing until she did that. Nobody saw it coming since they were supposed to be heroes. This started a heel turn for her, and she ended up killing 2 more bad guys later on in the campaign. Finally the player made a new character and I got her as an NPC.>pic unrelated
>>98487386had my players fight loki with bruce banner was accompanying them to provide tech supportwhile I expected them to pit the hulk against loki like the comics/MCU, I did not expect them to turn invoke the hulk by punching bruce in the facethey all decided to just run away from the hulk and leave him to cause property damagewhich is probably the most realistic reaction to the hulk
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>>98487386>List of systems>RPGs onlyWhere is my highly-customisable skirmish wargame?
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>>98491662go back to your very straight threads about how the emperor's sons just LOVED him SSOOOO MMMUUUCCCHH
kek mad
>>98491657superhero wargames are all about pre-existing characters because thats what 90% of the intersection between wargamers and comic fans would actually buyOC superheroes are treated a bit more skeptically than OC warhammer characters stuff like the red hulk beating up silver surfer creates way more seethe than xenos-of-the-week killing X terminators
Alright I’m bored and I’m a newbie at this stuff but not heroes I guess.Tell me what’s a unique power?
>>98493699the odds of making a truly unique power that is not some exceedingly narrow joke power like the control over diatomaceous earth is pretty lowthe superhero powers list is thousands long already
Concrete skin converting, or stomach furnace
>>98493139>>98491657Heroclix fear powergirl.to the point that her last figure was the lame TT Go version of her.
>>98493163>stuff like the red hulk beating up silver surfer that was so stupid
>>98491657Does Heroclix and marvel protocol count?
>>98487386What are your favorite supers settings outside of the big two and why? For example, I like Invincible because it doesn’t shy away from the kind of ultra-violence supers fights can probably. What about which systems work best for said settings?
Anybody got any tips for a Golden Age gameI'm considering a game of Mutants&Masterminds set just on the cusp WW2Stateside Heroes who may have to consider going overseas
>once we mass-produce the guardsman armor, we wont need superheroes to protect us anymore
>>98496361Red Hulk is some of the stupidest shit ever, and that's impressive given where it's coming from>>98497403I can't into Invincible because Mark is such a pussy. Most of the side characters are cool but I fucking hate Mark.
>>98487386Does anyone know of any worthwhile supers systems that aren’t on the list? Because I can’t think of anything at the moment.
Anyone tried the solo rules for Invincible?
on the topic of the guardsman armorjust an idea for a modern milslop inspired guardsman suit>M1A1 guardsman powered exoskeleton, Enhanced Firepower, Survivability, and Force (EFSF) Package-1>Composite Carbonadium armor panels on Upper and Lower Body, and Carbonadium Plate skirts provide additional passive protection>add-on backpack energy storage to power kinetic force shield to protect against shaped charge projectiles and impact absorption from kinetic attacks (solid AP shot, the hulks fists) as well as to bring hand mounted repulsors up to the same standard as the Iron Man Armor (estimated power level)>shoulder mounted 25mm cannon with independent swivel, reverse engineered from War Machine Power armor, capable of loading AP sub-caliber rounds for hardened targets and proximity-fuze HE rounds for defeating drones>cannon is slaved to eye-mounted designator allowing the operator to fire at any target within visual range>shoulder-mounted radar allows for spherical detection of moving targets and slaved to the central computer to allow for smart-targetting of all targets at any angle>helmet mounted multi-spectrum sensors allow for thermal imaging, night vision, and up to horizon visual ranging>additional arm mounted 5.56 machine gun to augment firepower against soft targets>pauldron- mounted smoke projectors, creating a thermally opaque smoke screen that defeats all known methods if identification>pauldron mounted APS-hardkill system to defeat projectiles or drones before impacting the shield to conserve power or armor integrity>additional helmet-mounted antennae to boost comms range up to several kilometers and the ability to network with other guardsman amor>tactical pouches for holding miscellaneous objects>with all additional upgrades, it is now estimated that only 10 guardsmen are needed to subdue a threat equivalent to the crimson dynamo rather than 25
>>98497496Godlike is explicitly "What if superheroes started appearing during WW2" but it's probably a bit grittier than your typical Golden Age fare
>>98504610Apparently there’s a crossover with ww2 chthulu?
>>98491657I love athletic girls with healthy appetites. I want to hit the gym with one, then bankrupt a local all-you-can-eat. To the point where the staff offers to pay her to leave and she just taps the "all-you-can-eat" text on top of the menu in response.
typed in silence in an empty home btw
Will Autarch actually release new stuff for Ascendancy that isn't fluff material?
>>98504610>but it's probably a bit grittier than your typical Golden Age fareIt isWhich is why I went M&MThe potential players know it and I can get a slightly brighter tone without working as hard
>>98500589The Street Fighter Storytelling Game
>>98512936>few even try to respond to OPs question>no one ever replies to those few earnest answers >no one even has any characters they made
>>98500908I'll take that as a no.
are you guys new to generals? you're supposed to silently dump images that aren't relevant to anything while never engaging in any discussion
>>98516279okay
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>>98516279I will engage in conversation and you can't stop me!I don't have a gaming group where I am, so I am considering running some online games using startplaying to find players. They'll be free, of course. However, the question remains, what system do I run?I am considering Prowlers & Paragons, Mutants & Masterminds, Marvel Multiverse, and Invincible. Which would be easiest to find players for?
>>98518931ADDENDUM: I see a lot of people complain about Marvel Multiverse, saying the core dice mechanic is too random, but... Well, I wonder if they have ever read comics. They are full of instances of what games would call critical hits (Ultimate Fantastic rolls) and lower-power characters being able to meaningfully resist higher power characters with luck.Am I looking at this wrong, or what?
>>98518970in the games I ran with marvel multiverse, the large number of crits arent a deal breakerin practice, it just means you "fail forward" a lotso if you set a TN to save a citizen from falling debris to a high level, such that they are almost certain to fail, but they still roll that fantastic on their rollthats usually an opportunity to tell them "you shield the citizen with your body but take heavy damage"though RAW would say that you should still fail at the task you just get a bonus out of it, IE you fail to save the citizen but the villain stops to gloat at your failure opening him up to an attacka true critical success is actually fairly rare. since you need to roll double 6s plus the marvel face, which is a 1/6^3
>>98518931probably something like the old marvel superhero RPGMarvel multiverse is simple to learn but very game-ymutants and masterminds gives you great control over your character but char gen takes ages if you arent familiar
>>98518970You don't need a particular dice mechanic to represent randomness or luck. All dice mechanics are random by definition. You can represent consistency and flukes within a single rule system.
what would be the best system to convert 5e babbies to a superhero game? the simpler the better
>>98523760Prowlers and Paragons (Mutants and Masterminds is d20-based but it's closer to 3.5 so will probably melt their tiny brains)
(it's also just better than MnM in every way)
>>98523760>>98525102Swade would probably also be good.
would ki manipulation be a decent reason for why someone can gain superstrength, speed, and durability just by training really hard?
while trying to port a DnD lich over to be a supervillain and then toning down the power level to fit my party, I believe I have simply recreated dante from the first fullmetal alchemist show from first principlesso might as well just copy all of them, since I can be very sure none of my players have ever watched that show>a master of forbidden arts who discovered immortality through hijacking peoples bodies>is maneuvering world events to create a perfect body, because they grow tired of having to continuously replace each body as it ages>justifies hundreds of years of mass murder and homicide because only someone with centuries of experience is fit to guide humanity, though its obvious that its just posturing to justify stealing peoples bodies
>general>no resources in opIf any of you have a Marvel Multiverse generator that isn't paid or a spreadsheet I'd really appreciate it.
>>98531362who are you talking to?
>>98532271do you have any supervillains in your current campaign?
>>98530994The reason is usually just 'training really hard' on its own, so I don't see why not. At least there's a justification there.
>>98530994as justifiable as anything else really
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>>98534230super ryona
>>98533107their weakness is anything that interrupts breathing, since chi begins with the breathealthough anyone strong enough to choke not-goku could have won the old fashioned way
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Whats a good way to brainstorm concepts for heroes/villains? I'm doing some writing and need to come up with characters that aren't just standins for the JLA or Avengers.
>>98537324look at your desk and use the first few thing you see there as a starting point>a bottle of pain stripper and a brush on my desk>an art themed villain with the ability to corrode anything he touches>hates the city for painting over his artwork and never footing the bill, so now he seeks to remove all art from the world>runs around melting public works and anything he deems too beautiful for the masses>probably got his powers from huffing paint cans too many times
>>98537392Thats the Stan Lee method.>>98537324Look into superhero archetypes or archetypes in general. Or take the Avengers/JLA characters than make them the opposite.But the Avengers and the JLA are so old and went through so many group versions, that you probably will always end with a not-JLA/Avengers
>>98537324You don't need that. They can be standins.
>>98537548>Thats the Stan Lee method.the best method
any good ideas for a 90s dark age comic session?none of my players are really into comic history so I can shock them with a knock-off knightfall story
>>98487386 I'm not quite sure where to put it but could Kallen Kōzuki form Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion, Transported to the main Marvel or DC continuity comic be a good street level hero with her superhuman capabilities and a costume? https://codegeass.fandom.com/wiki/Kallen_K%C5%8Dzuki
>>98544283is the bunny suit the costume?
>>98544283>superhuman capabilitiesShe's just a very talented mech pilot and an okay field agent. If anything, it's her mech that was exceptional.If they got a mech she could pilot, even a small one, she'd fit right in. A bigger question is how the hell do you keep a combat mech "street-level"?"Street-level" would be better suited for Zero's other niggas, ones that weren't piloting.Also, here's a fun idea for a game:>a Lelouch expy with a mind-control power, complete with Black Knights that look like villains, but aren't>they're waging a guerilla war against a corrupt government that doesn't look evil, but actually isBonus points if players only realize they were fighting for the bad guy halfway though the campaign and do the picrel.
>>98544283Kallen's above average to peak human but I doubt she's superhuman. Maybe you could get there if we count the amount of punishment she can take while piloting a knightmare frame but that's stretching it. There also might be something from the original manga that points towards that direction as well since it doesn't have knightmare frames but I've never finished it. Between Marvel and DC I'd go Marvel since you could pair her up with Stark and get a suit of armor. I remember reading a MHA/DxD fanfic that had some Code Geass stuff for some reason in it and Kallen's quirk was just the Wave Surger so if you wanted to go that route as well as sticking her in MHA that's also an option.
>>98487386My flying brick got punched halfway across Europe by a ridiculous roll that the GM couldn't believe happened. After he slowly swam his way back to consciousness, he spent the rest of the fight flying back towards the battle, wouldn't have gotten back no matter what he did, so he stopped at some French village to buy lunch (literally nothing he could have done, complete BFR).We ran it as a comedy skit where he only arrived AFTER the villains escaped with the UK Crown Jewels (because the swords are magical and one of the diamonds apparently has some sort of evil Hindu demon-god locked inside it), carrying a basket of baguettes, cheese, wine, and various French foods for the exhausted party.Next time we go up, somebody needs to pick a teleport power.
>>98547026figuratively being punched off-panel is actually a funny way to remove a character from battle without outright killing them
>>98547037According to the GM, we were supposed to win and the next phase was investigative into what's in the Diamond. Instead we all got some of the worst rolls we've ever seen at the table, the thieves escaped, and now we all need to figure out where to go next to find said thieves. Who are a much more evil take on Lupin, Fujiko, Goemon, and Jigen.
reminder that anti-heroes are just villains who cope
>>98544283what are your requirements for good?
>>98547048supposed? so your GM is bad?
>>98547948 Beating criminals mainly super villains able to save people on the street from disaster.
>>98547302Oh no! I guess all the people that were saved by a "coping villain" will have to go and kill themselves, lest they shatter that perfect picture of the world.God forbid anyone has a change of heart and starts batting for the good guys, doing his best with what he knows. Once a villain, always a villain, right?
>>98548068on the contrary, a villain who recants their ways becomes a hero in full they were in the black and then stepped into the white
>>98497403I don't know, I really don't like most indie capeshit I read, and don't find the settings compelling. Or they're too artsy for me to enjoy them as a traditional superhero setting. Like, the Maxx is kinda interesting, but it's not a setting where I'd want to see more supers interacting with, if that makes sense.Unironically the answer might be the Incredibles, but that feels like cheating since it's basically just Art Deco Marvel.
>>98497403The main reason for pic related is that it answers superscience in a way that I like. All schizo-tech and super-inventions are only understood by other people who's "power" is to invent and make stuff, and if not given regular maintenance by someone with that power, it breaks down. The other reason are the weird powers, including the builders who usually have a certain thing they build and a certain way to do it. >Blasto: Uses vats to grow weaponized hybrids made from plants, animals, and fungi.>Tecton: Builds power-armor specialized in altering and manipulating the ground by striking it.>Mannequin: Made "closed systems" that sustained life, like terrariums, bio-domes, virus incubators, etc. Turned his work on himself and sealed what pieces of himself he didn't cut away in a suit.
>>98547026>complete BFRWhat does BFR mean?>>98547963Not that anon, but he could mean that the GM set these particular bad guys up as pushovers so that the PCs would win, kind of like Spider-man's Shocker, and that the dice just gave them an outcome nobody expected could happen. Sticking to that outcome and not railroading would mean that the GM is good, not bad.>>98548135You should try some superhero novels; not graphic novels, but actual books without pictures. Some of them are really good, like:>Wearing the Cape series by Marion G. Harmon (good Catholic girl (19 I think) gets flying brick powers and joins world's premier superteam as THE flying brick's sidekick)>The Pantheon Saga by C.C. Ekeke (Samoan high school boy living in California gets powers (superstrength, durability, and lower-grade superspeed) and tries to grow into actually being worthy of them)
>this session: the entire party must do something really stupid and they are not allowed to tell anyone why or else something will explode
>>98547963No, like the other anon said, he was expecting us to win and they were meant to be a pushover. Instead we rolled like absolute ass all night while they did the opposite.
>>98539680>>98540836HeroMachine sure takes me backLately though I've been using AI for all my character artIt's very useful
>>98487386What advice do you have for creating demonic heroes and/or villains?
>>98553936Lean into banality for villains
>>98553936>"Monster?" I'm not a monster, Arthur. Words have power over us. We respect it. That's what separates us from monsters.>And humans.
>>98552836is that Amanda Waller he's kissing?
So, I am considering making a superhero game that uses the very core mechanics of 5e, meaning the six attributes, the proficiency bonus, and levels (but using levels like power level works in Mutants & masterminds). The primary idea, the elevator pitch for it I guess, would be >a superhero rpg based on mechanics everyone knows that does everything Mutants & Masterminds does without the autistic buildfaggotryWould people play it, do you think? Some specific things I am going to do that do not work like M&M or 5e>hit points instead of damage saves>three saves instead of six, like we had in 3.x>movement not based in 5 foot squares, but in spaces like the old FASERIP system in Marvel Super Heroes>movement also given in miles per hour and kilometers per hour>powers that take a lot of inspiration from how powers work in Prowlers & Paragons>much less crunch than in Mutants & mastermindsI will tinker with the proficiency bonus as well>probably power level / 2 for the actual bonus>the ability to have 'weak' stats that get half the bonus rounded down>strong stats that get double the bonusThe biggest point I want to move away from in current incarnations of M&M is the way powers like Nullify or Drain work in 2e, 3e, and seemingly 4e, where they reduce a power or ability by a number of power points equal to 2 times the nullify or drain rank. That is complete bullshit at the table, requiring looking up the cost of the thing being drained and then using arithmetic to work out how many ranks get stripped away. Exploding ass cancer for speed of play.I want to go back to the 1e paradigm, where all powers are capped at the power level of the campaign, and a character's Nullify or Drain rank just subtracts from the rank of the target power. Not-Magneto has 15 ranks of Magnetic Control and Not-Rogue drains him with her rank 10 Drain power? he has 5 ranks left. No muss, no fuss.
>>98554819yes
>>98553936when in doubt, a faustian demon who makes deals
>>98554959cartoon characters make unironically good silver age heroes
>>98551611So he's bad, then.
>>98549418Why did you have a particular desired outcome in mind? That's bad, not good.
>>98548068Yes, retard. You're cringe and boring and your characters are cringe and boring.
>>98547037You could just defeat them. You don't have to kill someone to remove them from a fight.
>>98553192https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICK6e9WK2A8
>>98557365I am not the anon that posted the story. I am the anon that explained it to you, the bad GM.A likely outcome and a particular desired outcome are not the same thing. Not knowing the difference is bad.
>>98557370you are either good or you are badthis does not mean that you cannot go from good to bad, but it does mean that you cant be only half-reformed and pretend to be better than a villainyou need to go all in
>>98560843Likely means you had a particular outcome in mind, which is bad. You lose.
>>98562063Unfortunately you're neither. You're just boring.
>>98562925there is nothing more boring than pretending to be a hero when you are a villain
>>98562962of course there is. there's you.
>>98562962Do you really not think moral gray areas exist?
>>98562919>completely ignores the difference between expected outcome and desired outcome to pretend to have a point>he went full iwasonlypretendingtoberetarded.tiff
>>98565453Not that anon, but you can argue that those grey area is evil. Because you could choose to stay above the grey area.
>>98568042There is no difference, lowwit.
>>98565453>>98570291the gray zone is just what cowards use to pretend they are not actually evil
>>98573966Greyzone are things you often have to do to achieve the greater good. Like to kill a murderer to prevent more victims. But in the end it is just another murder.
>>98487386What kind of schemes do your villains get up to? And what are some kinds of schemes that aren’t used as much as they should be?
>>98575829Actually, if you kill two or more murderers, the number of murderers goes down.
>>98575829nonsense spread by moral relativistsmurder is objectively bad, murdering a murderer is still murder and therefore bad
>>98578783Based. Because thats what i always say when there is a Batman or Punisher thread on /co/, where they say this phrase but murderer number keeps the same.>>98579426Thats the point.
>>98487386Any /cape/ troves? I'm looking for books/resources.
>>98584888>rogue is a street-level hero whose power copying relies on sneaking up on someone stronger than themselves or waiting for someone else to knock them out>gets flying brick powers>turns into a city+ tier hero overnight with the close-range weakness of power stealing instantly covered by super speed and flight
>>98582600rebrand [dot] ly [backslash] supersold AF tho
>>98585396There's a newer one, but OP can find it himself if he has the time to triage his shitty undersupported General with random images instead of actually putting up any resources.
>>98585436I'm not OP, and I have been posting images to bump the thread. I done so like 4 or 5 times now, because I dig superhero RPGs.
>>98585436why do you think generals have to spoonfeed you resources? fuck off oxygen thief
where's the game finder thread?
So where do you guys find character art for super games?I can't draw and not much of an editor, see attached. So finding some hero art would be nice but not corporate characters
>>98591937Unironically AI sloppa. It's one of the few actual reasons to use it.
>>98592047there must be the old ways, right? what were people doing before 2020
>>98592326Either get yourself a drawfag, or become one yourself (a truly based choice). That, or do edits of someone else's stuff.I genuinely think sloppa has been a good thing when it comes to character portraits and small stuff like that.It's when you start to go big with it that it becomes a problem.
>>98592354I've done drawfagSee >>98592326And yeah do edits already, see>>98591937Does anyone have recommendations for hero books with decent art in them for me to steal and edit?
>>98487386How powerful do you prefer your PCs to be? And what do you do when you’re stuck on creating heroes and villains, especially powers-wise?
>>98593097Sometimes I ask the players what power level they prefer and set the game to that, and sometimes I set it in the pitch. I don't have a particular preference, I just pick whatever falicitates the game's premise.
>>98593097personally, the game is most fun when they have roughly the power-level of season 1 young justice
>>98516825>>98489687What are these crossovers? Don't recognize them.
Am I the biggest loser here if I got excited at the announcement of solo rules for the marvel game?
>>98599736NoIf I was going to self insert into the Marvel Universe I'd rather do it alone too
>>98599736>>98600429solo rules?at that point, why not just play city of heroes?
I've working on a west marches style campaign for Marvel Multiverse that will feature Xenomorphs and Yautja as antagonists.
>>98601709considering that the brood existed, the xenomorphs would pretty mid-tier enemies
>>98601132I think that's the thing that bugs me because I like a lot of solo rpgs in the form of video games but with tabletop the appeal is less the rpg and more the social part of doing something with friends. I think a good pen and paper solo rpg could be a valid and fun game but I'd feel like a loser moreso than if I booted up FF4 or something.
>>98599736I'll be your friend, anon
>>98487386What is your favorite power and why? I’m a big fan of illusions and/or shapeshifting, love messing with enemies until they question reality.
the upcoming DC RPG looks interestingbrainstorming some ideas to use when it comes out, but having the players take part in a crisis event sounds like an action packed opening
Can we just brainstorm power ideas?
>>98606707I think having a strong opening can be really important for some players to feel more invested. The party meets in a tavern and gets a job is easier narratively but getting caught up in something exciting with reason to see it through has always helped drive my players more. >>98607784I am a very basic person and I like to just pick an element like electricity or ice and then limit it in some way like they can generate ice blocks but only around their own body. Trying to think of ways to use this power I think about making ice armor or something, but then that turns into ice fists or weapons, and from that I concept it into a cultural theme like vikings so they make iconic viking weapons and horn caps out of ice at will. Its not really that original but its a fun thought exercise.
>>98606698Hey it's Dr. Destroyer.I'm running a Champions game soon /tg/, wish me luck or don't I'm not your dad. Feel free to pitch villains, I can build damn near anything in HERO.
>>98606707I always start my games with some sort of action scene. An attack, a hostage crisis, a chase, a heist, a natural disaster, a distress call, an alien seeking asylum, etc. Sometimes I'll ask each player to decide what cool shit they're doing at the start of the game.If you want to ensure your game dies, start by going around the table and asking each player to introduce their character.
Ran my first prowlers and paragons game last night. It was fun, got some rules wrong in regards to how mooks work and how armor works, but it didn't detract too much from the game and now I know for next week. Everyone was enjoying the system so far. They are in the middle of a fight with foot-clan style ninjas who are high on demon blood, attempting a situation to summon their demonic master into a hulk body.They all made pretty wacky characters, it's interesting to see what kind of goofy shit even 100 point characters can get up to.
