What was worse for warhammer 40k?Marvelization or MTGization?Personally I stand with the latter being worse simply because normies can like Marvel, but the lows of mtg players are far lower than any animal.
>>98491076both are meaningless buzzwords
>>98491076Define the terms you used jackass
>>98491076Marvelization sucked the soul out of the lore, MTGization sucked the soul out of the game. It's like getting your heart ripped out and then your brain stomped, either way all that's left is a corpse of a once-alive creature, stuffed and mounted on the wall of corporate interests
>>98491076You're a brain rotted idiot.Horus Heresy was a mistake though
>>98491100mtgization is the way the game of 40k has been come less a wargame and more a card game. Games are won and lost on lists before models hit the board. The heavy abstraction of points and premade and defined terrain layouts (Ls of soullessness) dominate pushing balance over narative
>>98491100Marvalization is how the lore has become quippy and the primarchs feel more like Avengers assembling. Much of the mystic and grit is also gone
>>98491118>Games are won and lost on lists before models hit the boardSame as it ever was.
>>98491100Why are you so riled up?
>>98491373Yeah but the game is designed around it now. Previously it was designed around casual play with friends, not pick ups or tourney games.
>>98491076both have already happened to 40k.
>>98492065Casual games with friends typically require somewhere with a dedicated gaming table and less then half of millennials and zoomers own a home big enough to do that.
Marvel. It's the biggest step to noblebright quirky goyslop mainstream npcs love to slurp. It's why the mitwit crowd is pushing for everything to be explained in lore etc because they're too retarded to enjoy the mystery aspect of a narrative. It's why there's been an exponential explosion of dumb representation everywhere in the setting and miniatures. It's why the more brutal aspects of 40k are being quietly shelved or outright bleached. It's why warhammer adventures is a thing. Once you hit that road for the investments via esg/dei shit, you need to step into line or else amazon will never greenlight you etc. GW likely already has CDOs or CDO~esc "advisers".
Neither. Tabletop simulator and its crowd are worse than both
>>98491118>Games are won and lost on lists before models hit the board. bro I agree WH40k is shit but this problem has existed since 2e. the gameplay has always been [set up armies] [roll dice until someone wins]
