>Rick Roll Trove
mega.nz/folder/78pF0CYI#Jc2IO8IQVwRDP1Chwr_iGA
>New Trove Link
mega.nz/folder/19kUXC6T#U31scUNwyuVI8cHvX6GIgQ

>Advanced Squad Leader
mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>AK-47 Republic
mediafire.com/folder/6v39gcjode5ln/Insanely_Based_AK-47_Republic_Folder
>Battleground WWII
mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Billhooks
mediafire.com/folder/v0fhor14frxsf/Billhooks
>Bolt Action
mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>Flames of War
mega.nz/folder/lc1SRajQ#QTDXthNFG-sDoYe08bhV9A
>Fleet Series
mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>GMT
mega.nz/#F!D1dHQZCJ!V9pYq0CUc4iCrNiOcBOBtg
>Hail Caesar
mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Modelling & painting guides
mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Naval wargaming stuff
pastebin.com/LcD16k7s
>The Perfect Captain
perfectcaptain.50megs.com/captain.html
>Phoenix Command RPG
mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>ZunTsu Gameboxes
mediafire.com/folder/yaokao3h1o4og/ZunTsu_GameBoxes

Stupid question but ive seen acrylic paint colors emulating or even closely matching the rlm, ral, and fs colors.
I don’t generally see this for metallic paints. Was there just no metal color tone standardizing or if there was, was it not to the same focus and levels as uniform and vehicle colors etc.?
I have color tone autism for painting my miniatures that even extends to metals.

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Blessing this thread.

I wish Barons' War was fun but I can't say I really like it.

>>98502019
>Knights were so heavy you needed a small crane to put them on their horses.

>>98502040
The shade of the metal color tone is not really something you can standardize.

Metals will vary in color and shade depending on the metal itself and how it's made, all the surface detail, damage or pitting in the case of casting, chemical treatments and how they're applied, environmental effects like oxidation and even the angle you look at it from.

If you want a consistent look, you either have to plate it, treat it, or use a metallic paint... and even then it's probably not going to be 100%.

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I'm looking for some rules for 28mm ship vs ship boarding action Napoleonic Naval games?

>>98503647
Blood & Plunder isn't napoleonic but might be the closest you'll find.

At 28mm, even a frigate is over 60cm long, so the 28mm games that do exist tend to focus on smaller stuff.

>>98503722
>60mm long
Yes I have a blue area rug in my basement and was planning on playing on the floor.
Printing out some Briggs and Cutters as we speak
https://www.3dprintterrain.de/collections/napoleonic/products/napoleonic-gunboats-ships-cutter
British sailors and Marines are easy to find because bongs own the wargaming industry, but French sailors and Marines literally do not exist so I'll have to improvise

>>98503749
Pretty sure Revolutionary France just put their army aboard ship rather than having a dedicated corps of marines

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>>98503749
Brigade games has a very minor french sailor selection, pic related

And you could also get away with using some Perry metal Vendee french as sailors, and could make some with the Spanish Guerilla box as well

>>98503770
c'est parfait

>>98503749
Age of sail novels like Hornblower and Aubrey/Maturin frequently note that since sailors dress the same anywhere, it wasn't impossible to pass Frenchmen off as English and vice versa. So you could use English sailor minis and just make them distinctly french through color or something.

>>98503822
British fanfic makes no attempt at historical accuracy or research? Color me surprised!

>>98503875
Francophile finds yet another excuse to be triggered by the brits, quelle surprise

>>98503822
>make them distinctly french through color or something
By painting the french sailors as Algerian and the bongs as Pakistanis

>>98503749
This brig would be awesome for small personal naval stuff like the war of 1812 battle of lake Erie or Barbary war with one brig against some stinky Muslims

>next WGA sets aren't their Warring States Chinese, it's three of the Damned
They're never actually releasing their Chinese are they?

>>98505238
Who cares?

>>98505252
Chinese people maybe. I've been reading Romance of The Three Kingdoms and still can't say I'd buy Warring States China minis.

>>98503647
I think the Firelock Guys might be coming out with a Napoleonic version of B&P at some point. They've already done it for trenches IIRC

>>98503890
>t. historylet
NTA but that's what they get for Mers-el-Kebir. Killing neutral French sailors under the pretense they might join the Axis despite the French saving their whole force at Dunkirk. Frogs never offered a single ship to Hitler before the attack, they never did then and they never did after. In fact the Frenchies saved Churchill another whole army at Bir Hakeim by pulling out a Dunkirk-bis despite UK's attack on their fleet. Time proved UK wrong on this one and as far as I'm concerned it was nothing short of an European Pearl Harbor. They deserves to be painted as backstabbing Nation as much as Japan is. Talking about honor but having their very own very retarded definition of it.

>>98505527
I used to be a huge anglophile, growing up on Zulu, Sharpe, Waterloo, loving the WOTR and HYW etc. but really the more I read history the more I realize that throughout the early modern period, Britain really has been the most perfidious villain of history. They filled a very similar role during the early modern that the Israel lobby fills nowadays

>>98505556
As a bong I would say the victorian era was when it all changed, the empire became a host for the parasitic yids who completely took it over

>>98505556
>>98506808
The British Empire was just a giant roads and schools welfare project for Africa and India ultimately. Its responsible for why scammers from those regions have an easier time learning English. Outside of the upper class in London, the average White Brit was made worse for it, either through getting to beta test sweatshops in London, shitting themselves to death overseas fighting for the Crown or just having to pay for the entire road system of countries bigger than themselves in population and landmass. If you're not replacing native populations with your own loyal people or simply exploiting the populaces properly you basically enter a death spiral where 1 or 2 serious wars bankrupts the whole system, which is what finally happened in WW1/WW2. Jewish/Zionist elements of course were prevalent in British financial systems and had their own motives but the system was already rotted out by the time the Victorian Era came around. Last chance to fix this IMO was if King George either defeated the Revolutionaries in America or just let them be a tax haven for a short period of time until things cooled down, then invest fully in the Americas as a second Britain when the Revolutionaries were sated or grew irrelevant. Without a massive population of loyal British subjects you're going to bleed out money fighting to rule over low income farmers in India.

>>98507025
>The British Empire was just a giant roads and schools welfare project for Africa and India ultimately
Imagine being so retarded you fall for imperial propaganda.
Africa and India were subjugated to extract resources and enrich the Anglo nobility, the many genocides should have made this obvious.

>>98507348
>Anglo nobility
Ah yes, Baron Rothschild, the "Anglo"

>>98507025
>Muh benevolent welfare program!!!
Pure cope and propaganda. The Empire didn't colonize shithole countries out of the kindness of their heart to help out the poor brown people, it's was an entirely extractive endeavor on the behalf of the "financiers."
Colonials revolts and wars weren't being fought because the natives were mad about all the free schools. The zogbot redcoat didnt maintain colonial rule with the point of the bayonet because the British really really cared about providing infrastructure and social programs to the savages.
If it was just about roads and schools, do you ever wonder why literally all the colonials fought tooth and nail to oust the British, from the Americas, Africa, Caribbean, India, China, etc?

their populations boomed, but this is why we should have genocided them, because no matter how many schools, hospitals and roads the libtard humanitarians(of which there was plenty btw if you bothered to look) of the victorian era constructed, jeets and wogs will still hate us because whitey bad
majority of colonies were also given complete self government without a fight as well

>>98506808
It started before the Victorian. Napoleon is always depicted an aggressive conqueror hell bent on world domination by the British, but the irony is that Britain had been the main agitator in Europe since before Napoleon's rise. Since the beginning of the revolution it was Britain that was financing and encouraging all the wars to destabilize France, and all the European nations to invade France, and this occured until the end of the era. Interestingly, out of the seven coalition wars in the napoleonic era, six of them were Napoleon directly responding to allied hostilities or aggression, with British being the preeminent financier and agitator behind all of them. Really only Spain could be seen as Napoleon attacking another country unprovoked.

The new Northstar Hussite wars plastic knights are up for pre-order now! Already ordered my box.

>>98507555
>Baron Rothschild, the "Anglo"
And the royal family and the nobility used as plantation owners and even some of the upper peasantry used as plantation managers.

>>98507563
>but this is why we should have genocided them
You did. To the tune of millions of people.
Why the fuck do you think they kept fighting you?

>>98507882
How much and how many troops per box?

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I remembered I bought a Hit the Beach set for Flames of War about two years ago but never assembled it.
Now I finally have time to build it and I wonder if I should use them for FoW or if any other system is being recommended. I'm not necessarily looking for a crazily simulationist game. I would rather play something gamey but easy to learn so I can actually bait people into playing the game with me since I have two armies.

>>98508042
Twenty pound sterling for 18 knights.
>https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=20948
>https://downloads.northstarfigures.com/newsletter/newsletter399.htm?fbclid=Iwb21leATsWC9jbGNrBOxYKXBkb2YBZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMzUwNjg1NTMxNzI4AAEegop7Awel-U-qp5sTJFOrXZeMsUlSZ1vQ_eZCxcC294QPLh8eOmIWMQANIsw_aem_tc0Zh0EdeoS56gHwAZlYqQ

>>98508239
What a ripoff... Perry does 20 pound sterling for 40 to 45 niggas

>>98508252
Different periods than these. Also more options. These are also sculpted by the best historical mini sculptor in the business, Matt Bickley.

>>98507972
Yeah that's why theres 1.5 billion jeets and niggers alive today, because the British genocided them
>millions
who? when? only thing I can think of is the famine in bengal which wasn't the definition of genocide at all, and the indians fought for the empire and didn't have a war for independence
>they kept fighting you?
making up nonsense, the vast majority of british colonies were let go without a fight and are nearly all far more successful than any of their neighbours
are you trolling or what? not that it really matters, most of this thread and frankly the whole site is just reddit lite popslophistory

>>98501997
how did the spanish build those lakeships so fast

>>98509335
Proto-Mexican construction workers.

What are some good wild west games? They can be historical or not, I'm just trying to find some games to check out and see which I'd like to play.

I'm aware of Dead Man's Hand and What a Cowboy. Looking for more to watch gameplay of to help decide.

>>98508077
Battlegroup or chain of command 2

Does anyone know of some good Republic of Korea infantry in 28mm for the Korean War?

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>>98510599
Sorry, I checked a few places I thought might have them but couldn't find any. The only place I know for sure that sells them is Warlord Games

On another note, I hate the Vietnam war because it's very Jewish and I hate to glorify boomers, but Empress Vietnam minis are so aesthetic they really tempt me

>>98510656
>I hate the Vietnam war because it's very Jewish
How so?

>looking on ebay
>Firefly and The Wargaming Research Group Armour and Infantry 1925 - 1950 rulebook, £9 and £5 including p&p respectively
Sometimes the gods just smile on you. Of course I grabbed both, though sadly I missed the 1950 - 2000 rulebook

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Played a game of bolt action v2 with a friend recently. It's not my go-to historical game for the ww2 period but it's alright fir a quick beer and crisps game. Winter war, Moltti Matti scenario, my Soviets being ambushed. Sadly I couldn't do an accurate soviet army due to a lack of minis - they were originally intended to be opfor for other systems.
Anyway, the game began with my command, snipers, and a chunk of the pidors and mg gunner freezing to death which wasn't ideal.
Nonetheless we did see some success with the squad in the East overcoming the Finnish squad there and destroying them and the Maxim pinning a group of ambushers whilst the squads to the west broke towards the tank.
Unfortunately they were unable to break out of the pocket the Finnish had created and were surrounded and destroyed for relatively few casualties inflicted in return.
The Finnish sniper failed to find targets in the dark, but the field gun made up, ending a squad trying to rush it with a well placed shell and support from some infantry. The pinned Finns squad mistook movement in the dark for Russian flankers and fired on them only to hear angry fingolian noises as they landed shots near the at rifle team.
As the T-26b reversed to find a target the ATrifle team fired into it, knocking it out. And with that the battle was over. One squad escaped the ambush, otherwise it was a total Finn victory.

>>98510656
Damn those are some fantastic figures. Extensive range of Russo-Japanese war which is rare. Great stuff, probably unobtanium in the EU but very nice to look at.

>>98510656
>The only place I know for sure that sells them is Warlord Games
They're the first place I checked but they only sell KPA, I need South Korea but Warlord simply says to use USA infantry and call it a day.

>>98510995
Use US infantry, paint them yellow with slit eyes and call it a day?

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Asking again to fish for more replies.

I never cared about the WW2 vehicles scale wars itt but since I'm officially becoming a tread-head, I have no other choice but to ask: what is the correct scale for vehicles and which brand is the way to go? Should I simply accept that 1/56 from Rubicon is the only right answer?

>>98511743
That or print them yourself.

>>98511743
Go either 1/285 for massed effect, 1/72 for cheaper kits, 1/56 for detail painting.

>>98511948
28mm enjoyer here. I see people recommending 1:48 a lot.

Has anyone here played Kriegsspiel?

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>The following units from Armies of the Soviet Union: Third Edition can be assembled, among many others: Platoon Commander, Commissar, Medic, Rifle Squad, Light Machine Gun Squad, Submachine Gun Squad, Guards Squad, NKVD Squad, Anti-Tank Rifle Team, Sniper Team
That sounds impressive. Is there any decent game that I can play with just a singe box of infantry like pic related? I don't feel like building a full army. Toying with an infantry platoon with no vehicles is enough for me.

>>98507687
>that was financing and encouraging all the wars to destabilize

Watch out fellas we got an academic on our hands

>>98513485
Five Men at Kursk, Disposable Heroes, Fireball Forward, Crossfire, Chain of Command.

>>98513485
Does the box have enough rifles to give them one each?

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>>98515202
Yeah, you can do all SMGs too.

>>98515489
Thanks. That's actually useful

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Anyone knows decent STL creators that sell WW2 tank models designed for FDM printing? Most of the ones I found are strictly for resin printing.

>>98508077
Fireball Forward is also very good and designed with 15mm in mind.

have littlewarstv been hacked? kek

>>98516648
going on the link to the channel on their website it says
>This channel was removed because it violated our Community Guidelines.

ooo I just checked their twitter, ye they got hacked lol

>>98516342
TigerAce1945 on thingiverse. Might not be strictly intended for FDM, but I've printed his stuff in FDM to go with 28mm minis with no issue. Just gotta scale it up.

>>98513485
Chain of Command is built around historical platoon layouts, so it works pretty well with Warlord boxes. Vehicles are entirely optional, and artillery is only really in the game as objectives.

I didn't find it fun, but you might.

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been playing panzer general dos emulator but this game looks cooler

https://www.myabandonware.com/game/third-reich-bxg

https://playclassic.games/games/turn-based-strategy-dos-games-online/play-third-reich-online/play/

https://d1.xp.myabandonware.com/f/mbl6/Third-Reich_Manual_DOS_EN.pdf

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>>98521954
or perhaps this is better?

https://www.abandonwaredos.com/abandonware-game.php?abandonware=Clash+of+Steel&gid=2715

>>98501997
>Want to build/play WW2 miniatures
>Am Slav mix (mostly Russian)
>Can't bring myself to play Soviets due to hatred of commies
>Feels weird playing Germans given lamo subhuman
>American look excessively dull to paint
>Japanese have limited armor and generally not well supported minis wise
>Have zero interest in anything British

Guess Italians it is

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Games for this feel?

>>98522589
Play Finns.

Is there any point in traditional metal or plastic 15mm/6mm miniatures or should I just 3d print? I wanted to buy a warlord games 15mm ACW starter box and the complaints about their detail made me start thinking

>>98525032
>Is there any point in traditional metal or plastic 15mm/6mm miniatures
I mean, lots of them are good? That's the point of them?

>>98525032
If you have an easy access to both I guess the main argument is how comfortable you are with with preparing either for batch painting. I know the prospect of cutting plastic minis from their sprues and sanding them off is really bleh to me.

>>98525032
Most 3d historicals look like fucking ass.

I have a ton of Victrix 28mm Republican Romans and don't really know what to use them for. Are there any particular mass battle set of rules which represent the Roman manipular tactics well, or perhaps is there a large skirmish set of rules for individual minis set in the period that is good?

>>98529226
Nobody even knows how the manipular system worked, it's all guess-work.

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Mesoamerican history anon here, since the OP used Peter Dennis's Siege of Tenochtitlan naval battle art for the thread OP, I figured I would offer to answer people's questions about Mesoamerican stuff

Here's the art at a higher resolution btw. You can find an even higher quality version on Osprey's blog, but it's 2big to post

>>98509909
>>98509335
I'd need to double check my info to give you a more in depth answer, I vaugely recall something interesting about how the ships were designed or how the construction force worked in terms of European vs Indigenous Mesoamerican contributions, but IIRC the answer is that a lot of wood and nails and the like was previously salvaged from the boats the Cortes expedition used to arrive in Mexico to begin with, which were dismantled to keep the materials usable rather then to have them rot at anchor while they proceeded inland.

That was something established in colonial court documents when the owners(?) of the boats sued over it, contrary to the claims Cortes made that he scuttled them to prevent mutiny, which later got embellished in subsequent telling's into him burning the boats.

>>98530741
Hey cool facts about the boats. Must have slowed them down a lot I guess but eventually it paid off.

>>98530741
Mesoanon, you grace us with your presence. Are there any good miniature ranges suitable for the Meso-Americas?

I'm considering switching from bolt action to flames of war. Having read the rule book I think it's a bit more beer and pretzels but how alive is the game? Current edition is not recent and has a lot of starter sets for things that aren't compatible. I think the buying part is the hardest part to navigate

>>98530741
Sometimes I wonder what Charles V thought when receiving Cortez's reports. The mind boggles considering the width of the stuff he had to deal with, and add to that a bunch of his Spaniards running around in the Americas. One wonders.

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>>98510856
I played a game of it early today, as my first historical wargame it's been nice and simple to step into and get my warhammer friends to play with me. I even got my dad to play it with me for a bit.

>>98533866
Tell your dad you really enjoyed him showing up and giving it a try.

>>98533999
I did, and he told me we should try it again after I've painted everything...

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>>98530741
cont:

>>98531305
Here's the excerpt about that court case by the way, from "When Montezuma Met Cortes". Also keep in mind I don't remember for sure if the wood, nails etc were re-used to make the brigantines, but i'm like 90% sure they were

>>98531716
Yes, i've seen some good ones, but you have to remember that I'm on /tg/ to infodump and I don't actually play tabletop stuff, so I don't really know what the different miniature lines I've seen are called, I've never like tracked them or made an index. Maybe I should at some point.

What I will say is that, the average bar of historical authenticity on miniatures for Mesoamerican stuff is pretty solid: Most Mesoamerican miniatures I've seen are fairly to very authentic, wheras like 99% of pop culture depictions of Mesoamerica in games, comics, movies etc are terrible.

Also, I do recall that Peter Dennis has paper-stand minatures he sells on his website, and a few of those packs have Mesoamericans. The listings pages he has though are incomplete, you need to search "Aztec", "Mesoamerica", "Mexico" etc in his site's search bar to find additional ones.

>>98533639
I wish I could tell you but i'm knowledgable on the Mesoamerican side of things, not the Spanish side. I know some stuff about Spanish politics and colonial efforts of course since it's very tangential (as in, close, not as in very distant) to stuff on late postclassic Mesoamerica, but I haven't read much about Charles V in particular.

If you want info on the inverse, though, how Moctezuma II saw the Spanish, I can talk about that a bit, let me know.

2/2 for now

>>98536287
Long shot, but I'll ask again out of idle curiosity as is my want.
Have you learned anything new about the 19th-century Indigenous Yucatan state that was independent for a time since our last encounter?

Have this incorrect but interesting theory (and corresponding experiment) on the Nazca lines as a gift for your efforts:
https://nott.com/nazca/

>>98536287
> I don't remember for sure if the wood, nails etc were re-used to make the brigantines, but i'm like 90% sure they were.
It's written here too. It's the third or fourth sentence after you stopped highlighting.

>>98536287
What an incredibly boring area to specialize in

>>98538695
Kill yourself, subhuman.

wanting to pick up some of Rubicon's 28mm Vietnam kits and wondering what rules there are for that scale?

>>98536287
Had Moctezuma the foggiest idea about the Hapsburg Empire? Again, the insanity of how much crap Charles had to deal with is mind boggling. Did any spaniard ever explained to 'em stuff like the Ottomans, Wars of Religion or the like? Was any Mesoamericans ever interested in such stuff?

Looks like I might get to play some Barons' War this weekend. Will post updates.

>>98538695
Somebody needs to sit down with some of you clowns and explain that contrarianism isn't a decent replacement for a personality and won't be the thing that finally gets you laid

>>98501997
>The human sacrifices WILL stop Edition
The human sacrifices will CONTINUE until moral improves.

>>98541496
>contrarianism
con...contra....ian....contrari...conti...ism

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>>98530741
>answer people's questions about Mesoamerican stuff
Have they looked like this for real?

>>98510856
>>98533866
Any particular reason for playing v2 over v3?

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From what I can tell, picrel seems a pretty good game, modeled off of old mesbg. The price is really fair too. Anyone got experience with this game? Only critique I’ve heard is its a little “gamey” with its faction rules, but that doesn’t bother me.

>>98543777
I've run a test with some friends. It has problems. A lot of those problems are born from the fact that it's MESBG but the author felt the need to change rules randomly to attempt to make itself distinct from MESBG, sometimes with atrocious results. Maybe we got some rules wrong, but
- Shooting is murderous. Two shots for static units with fixed to hit rolls means that sooner or later you'll get three 6s and defense rolls are dogshit
- Agility rolls killing people on 1 is complete bullshit
- The differences with MESBG means that the combat is less "fluid", a lot more blob engagement and less pushing/mobility
- A lot of focus on "random charges" that means almost nothing because you'll end up playing like MESBG anyway
- Warband creation with the stock faction is beyond boring, they all feel the same and you gotta put a lot of work and larp to "get" warbands that play differently
- Overall quality control in the rules is poor: for example, Huscarls ignore the penalties to hit for 2-handed weapons, but the author forgot he wasn't playing MESBG and in his own ruleset 2-handed weapons don't have hit maluses but "hit last". It doesn't fill me with confidence when the author himself is confused by his own ruleset
All in all, it's very mediocre compared to his predecessor. I'd legit play more a Viking conversion of MESBG than Pillage.

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How vital is transport in Bolt Action? I got a pack of Victrix Late Germans that I want to run as Waffen-SS and now I wonder how many of them need a ride.
I already got an Open Blitz, an Sd.Kfz. 234/2 Puma, a Panther and a Tiger.

>>98543262
this is not how a loincloth works.

>>98544306
Playing fully mechanized infantry in Bolt Action with transports and all is basically handicapping yourself. One or two units in trucks or fast transports is handy for early game objective grabs though. Never buy tows for your artillery, just deploy them near the board edge turn 1.

>>98544203
Not him but that's disappointing. I want to buy the Victrix Carolingians as a painting project and I was hoping Pillage would be a good game to use them in. What else would they be good for?

has anyone played, or ideally have scans of, the Musket & Tomahawks expansions Shakos & Bayonets or Kepis & Bayonets?

>>98544441
What are the general listbuilding principles in BA? Are there any good blogs, podcasts or YT channels that break down the armybuilding part and explain the basics well? I want to buy stuff I find cool first and foremost but I want to make the best use of them as gaming pieces as well.

>>98544846
Just read the rulebook, it explains it. You can grab it from the trove.

>>98544647
I have all of them, have you even bothered to check the OP?

>>98541496
Not contrarian at all. I have to deal with Mexicans on a daily basis, I can't imagine having to suffer through researching the stone age human sacrificing version of them.
>>98538999
Mexicans can't even comprehend that stuff nowadays with all the modern resources and western education at their finger tips

>>98546680
100% chance this guy worships a human jew sacrificed to the jew god yet will see no irony in this post

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>>98546854

>>98546680
>Not contrarian at all.
Sure thing m8
>I have to deal with Mexicans on a daily basis
I have to deal with US tourists pretty often and you're such retarded pieces of shit I could well believe you're an engineered demoralisation superweapon. I wouldn't let you retarded pieces of shit influence my opinion on whether or not US history is interesting or worthwhile, it would be stupid of me to

>>98547053
I don't know what this means or who that is. I'm assuming you're upset that he is a goy not worshipping the jewish god? There there, it'll be okay. How about we watch Kingdom of Heaven again?

>>98502059
Awesome. Great job, anon.

So far I've only collected plastic minis which are great for their lightness, but now I'm planning on getting an all metal army for the first time and I'm wondering how many 28mm metal minis can realistically go on each base before it's too heavy to be practical and you risk dropping and damaging stuff. Thinking of 120mm Impetus bases, but 10-12 minis per base might be too much?

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>>98546680
I have a minor interest in caveman art and craftsmanship due to my paternal major interest in it. If that's your thing then Mesoamerica is peak stone knapping mastery. No one ever got that far and never will (due to lack of need and interest).

>>98547606
Tell me more about the cannibal Spider Demon worshippers.

>>98547606
Based and nerd-pilled.

>>98544203
I see, well this is a streamlined version of the rules for smaller games in this box, so maybe some of the issues will be mitigated. Still optimistic and the gameplay I’ve seen looked fun.

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what does /hwg/ think of hex and chit games? are they a better alternative to miniature wargames for actually recreating a full battle?

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After watching some historical drama, my wife wants to start a small WW2 Brits army and play Bolt Action with me. I thought about grabbing her a Warlord's platoon box so we can start to play asap to not lose the momentum.
What army would be more fun to play - Commandos or Paratroopers? I know they are both quite different from "standard" forces but she voiced interest in those two in particular so this is what I'm working with.

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>>98549413
>warlord Brits
>casual play
>no interest in the actual history
Fuck off back to warhammer. But the answer is paratroopers.

>>98549369
Able to be more accurate and simulationist, yeah. But I think miniature wargames are more fun because I like the visuals and the artistic aspect.

>>98549491
>warlord Brits
Perry's Brits are hardly any good and Victrix has only Krauts in their 1/56 offer. Can you recommend me an alternative that is cheaper than 25eur for 30 dudes and available from almost any store?
>casual play
Since when is casual play a bad thing? Has 40k brainrot got you?
>no interest in the actual history
Projecting much I see. She is more into early Medieval period and Victoria's colonial wars. We started to watch war movies because she wants to get into modern historical fashion.

>>98549543
Look at Empress range of Arnhem paras. They're metal but actually resemble human beings.

>>98547606
How do you hold this shit without destroying your hand?

>>98547243
Eurotard try not to seethe about American superiority challenge - Difficulty level: Impossible

>>98549369
I like hex and chit games, it's true. But a huge part of the appeal of miniature wargaming is.. the miniatures. There is just something magical about well painted toy soldiers.

>>98550162
I forgot about how thin-skinned you crybaby faggots are too

>>98549979
anon it's a dragon dildo

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In the planning stages of a Rorke's Drift project. Wanting to play at 28mm with individual minis for real visceral action. Thus far the best rules I can think of to adapt for this are Warhammer Legends of the Old West, perhaps using specifically the Alamo supplement where they introduce companies and siege rules. Open to suggestions if anyone knows of a better set of rules for such an action.

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How often do you play historical games in ahistorical settings?
Based on your experience, does it happen often that people play, let's say, DAK vs Imperial Japan or Zulu vs Afghan tribes if the game come provide profiles for said armies and people simply don't have armies to re-create a historically accurate setting?

>>98552127
I like to recreate era accurate forces but I never go for specific battles. If your Republican Romans stumble on my Gauls in Sardinia so be it.

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I busted my hand pretty badly, going on leave for a couple weeks. Good hand soo I'M not getting any miniatures done anytime soon. Recommend me some hex'n'chit that i can play solo without much experience with those. Any period works, really, so throw me anything you've got.
maybe i'll get pax pamir if no other option appears promising

>>98552127
Historical matchups are just a chance to come up with fun alternate history stuff
>Hmm, North Africa British vs American Army in a WW2 game? Clearly general Montgomery and the 8th Army have landed in Texas to support their allies in the Confederacy on the Trans-Mississippi front

>>98551838
Obligatory The Sword and the Flame mention

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Fuck this, I'm pulling the trigger on Perry's Desert Rats and DAK. The store also has Rubicon's Rommel and Montgomery so I'm grabbing them to use as officers. I put a Vallejo's Desert British & German paint set in my cart as well. Anything I should grab alongside? A tank or a truck for each side perhaps? I don't have any specific game in mind yet but there must be something that can be considered an auto-buy for the most popular systems.

>>98552127
Yes, people do that, usually so long as the two armies exist in the same time period. So it's possible they could have fought, even if they never did.
Usually it helps if you give a little reason 'why' they are fighting, though. Don't be like a Bolt Action playing Warhammer refugee who just plops an army down with out any care about background or anything

>>98553236
>Don't be like a Bolt Action playing Warhammer refugee who just plops an army down with out any care about background or anything
The guy who runs the local bolt action group is exactly this. I tried putting a campaign together and he couldn't understand why i was putting effort into this. "Just roll dice and have fun" was his endpoint.

>>98553205
>anything I should grab alongside
Yeah a desert battlefield.
A desert table was the first table I made when I was a teen, it's so easy. Just get a large canvas and cover it with a bag of play sand, et voilà
North African "MENA" buildings are literally the easiest to craft as well, stupid simple

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>>98553248
>he couldn't understand why
This is just Warhammer brain. They literally cannot comprehend a narrative campaign or thematic scenario,.and it's because to them they are just playing a board game and not acting out an imaginary battle. There really is a foundational difference in mindset and understanding, and I think that's largely why Warhammer games look so shit and the players are so unappealing to play with

>>98553258
I have a table already since most of my fantasy armies are desert-themed.

>>98538695
Tard

>>98553282
Pic?

>>98553294
Don't have any since I only take my burner phone whenever going abroad. Will post some once I'm back. I guess that sharing progress here will also help me with finishing the project for once.

>>98553282
inb4 shitty ugly neoprene battlemat

>>98553323
Well yes, it's a mat with 3D scenery. I use a lot of scatter terrain to make it less flat, none of the players seem to be unhappy with the result.

>>98553332
Brother please get a canvas, lather it in non shrinking latex caulk, and then cover it in play sand. Total cost, $20
People aren't unhappy with the result because the standards for terrain have reached an all time low with the commercialization of Warhammer and readily available cheap mass produced products like neoprene battlemats and circular objective markets being so accessible. But we should strive to be better than that

>>98553282
>>98553332
Pajeet diarrhea K47 anon.

>>98553356
I'm sorry Anon but I don't really care for what you find to be the appropriate 'standard'. I like mats and I like how easy they are to handle. I can't be bothered with transporting 6 square feet of board whenever I want to play at one of my normies friends' places.
>>98553601
Bring up e-whores and other attention-starved thread p*rsonas should be a bannable offence.

>>98553636
NTA but I made a canvas desert map last week and they roll up just like a neoprene one.

>>98553649
If you do it on a canvas, won't it crack and fall apart when you roll it? I see no reason in making a custom table unless it's a sturdy board with pronounced 3D texture and elevations. Otherwise, it's just a mat with extra steps.

>>98553667
Did you ever read anything anon said or you just went straight to being combative? Canvas rolls the same as neoprene. Latex caulk is flexible and also rolls.

>>98553722
Again, I see no reason to deal with a canvas only to have sand texture.

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>>98553636
>I don't really care
>I like how easy
>I can't be bothered

>>98553768
What a disgusting mentality to have

>>98553768
Yes Anon, having an opinion other than yours on using mats over sand and glue indeed makes me a Warhammer player. Are there any other projections you want to share?

>>98553851
Are you just here to argue?

>>98553944
Hilarious. It's a bit baffling question considering that you are the one that can't make peace with me not following your hobby standards. I literally asked if there are any tanks or trucks worth picking to start DAK and Rats armies. You could stop responding the moment I told you I already have a table me and my playgroup are happy with but you just can't let it go. Perhaps it's a high time for you to log out.

>98553601
Who? Explain?

>>98553944
I'm scrolling through this garbage over a coffee and posting this shit after your childish shitflinging shows an astonishing lack of self-awareness. Even though I'm a neoprene mat hater and caulk mat maker I still think you're being a childish little cunt.

What's the most aesthetic way to use command figures from Victrix sets in mass battle armies?

I considered at first positioning them like Warhammer command figures at the front centre of a unit, but idk it kinda looks silly when you think about it

>>98554242
It depends on the army and period obviously. In some cultures and ages it was expect from a commander to be at the tip of the spear while others were hundreds meters away from the thick of battle.

Any of you lads had the chance to look over the new Sam Mustafa ruleset? I could go some Italian Wars action.

>>98553972
>continues to argue
Some males will always be feminine

>>98554716
What is it?

>>98507563
>wogs
uh anon they created 99% of things brits adopted

>>98554803
Scourge of Princes

>>98554989
You know anything more about it than the title? I am very interested. LaSalle 2 is my favorite wargame of all time, so I would be very interested in trying Scourge of Princes to see if I can replace Nevermind the Billhooks for some late 15th century battles.
Sam Mustafas website it always extremely vague in describing his games so doesn't help much.
For example, just by reading his website you would have no idea the difference between the Blücher and LaSalle rules

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I have a "what if" alt history idea where the US sends troops to help Napoleon as pay back for Yorktown, and they arrive just in time to assist at the Battle of Leipzig

>>98555764
Wasn't the US a little busy buck breaking the Royal Navy in 1813?

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>>98555812
>I'll take Selective Memory for 800, Alex

>>98555911
It's funny the bongs are so fixated on burning of the Whitehouse, which was a new building with no cultural or historical significance, because it deflects from the fact they lost to a bunch of retarded farmers (again).

Angloids be like:
>THE BATTLE OF NEW BUCKSWORTHINGTON, NEW YORK, SAW 40 KENTUCKY RIFLEMEN SKIRMISH WITH 32 REDCOATS
>2 DEAD, LARGEST BATTLE OF 1812

>>98556028
Seething

>>98556032
Nobody cares about 1812 besides insecure Yanks and seething Brits.

>>98556038
Alright?

Some of you are really annoying.

>>98544441
>pillage
From what I’ve seen, it still looks like a fun game. I think its worth a shot.

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Any recommendations for decent WWII podcast channels?

>>98546653

yes? I can't see them there

>>98554242
>>98554268
Sub-commanders would certainly be at the front of most of the units Victrix makes.
The top guy of an entire army of thousands? That depends, but at 28mm, he's not guaranteed to be on the table.
As for aesthetics, arete is the highest aesthetic: so at the front.

>>98559508
They're in there.

Reading through the Mycenaean civilisation on wikipedia. The more I read the less I know. Fantastic.

>>98559508
And you checked Rick Roll Trove?

What is your favorite cold war wargame and unit from that wargame?

>>98562342
Spectre 2.0 or Asymmetric Warfare

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>>98556028
>>98556038
You know what's funny is how bongs always attempt to dismiss or downplay the wars in America: the war of Independence and war of 1812, as being irrelevant or just a few farmers fighting in a field. If anything that just makes it MORE pathetic and embarrassing that the biggest empire in human history couldn't even have a "few dozen hillbillies" throwing a fit. Losing to untrained, uneducated farmers is actually the most shameful thing imaginable

Meanwhile they ceaselessly glorify shit like the Zulu War where professional soldiers used modern firearms to mow down stone age spearchucking niggers.

>>98563108
If Richard Sharpe had been there things would have gone differently

>>98563108
I'm making fun of both sides.

>>98563108
What really bums me out is Warlord providing Epic starter set for these niche conflicts, meanwhile Epic Napoleonic and Epic Ancient are still not complete.

>>98507348
More resources were put into India than were ever extracted verifiably.
Sorry your decomonization class didn't teach you that.

>>98563108
Did the UK send their WORST commanders to America? I just read up on this battle and it featured the most incompetent and retarded tactics I've ever seen on the British side

>the Americans build up a well fortified position, covered by a deep canal and robust earthworks. What should we do?
>March straight towards it in the open, attack head on!
>Brits surprise attack in the early morning with fog cover
>Loudly beat their drums in the fog so the Americans know they're coming
>Brits send a large detachment across the river to storm a battery and turn the American own guns onto their position
>They forget to account for the current and land way down river, their surprise assault is delayed by 12 hours
>Main attacking force commander sees they haven't even started to assault the battery redoubt yet so he can't attack the earthworks yet...gets impatient... Attacks the earthworks head on unsupported anyways
>once the Brits across the river finally make it to the redoubt and take the battery, the main attacking force has already been mauled and the battle is over
>entire British command is killed

>>98563108
I know this is bait, because the Continental Army was made up of former militiamen and officers, with the rest of them trained and drilled by those people, plus some of the best drillers brought in from Europe.

The Redcoats that faced Napoleon, a lot of them were drunkards and debtors.

Not to mention the US basically lost every single battle, and the British were spending much more energy before and after, just dealing with the French.

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>>98566359
>Did the UK send their WORST commanders to America?
Can you name any good ones besides Wellington?

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>the struggle of wanting to have massive 28mm units while only playing on an average sized table

>>98562060
>>98561206

The expansions aren't there?

>>98563108
>biggest empire in human history

how big was the British Empire in 1812 anon

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>>98566714
Make like H.G. Wells and play on the floor

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>>98566456
>the US lost basically every single battle
I live near the Saratoga battlefield, how dare you.
https://www.battlefields.org/learn/revolutionary-war/battles/saratoga
You might be talking about 1812 but I feel like bringing this up anyway.

>>98566890
cannon goes pew

>>98553269
This may be the worst image I have ever seen. Please, for the love of god, tell me this in AI gen

>>98566890
>Umpire wanking it on his cuck chair.
Yep, it's Little Wars: a game for boys from twelve years of age to one hundred and fifty and for that more intelligent sort of girl who likes boys' games and books - time lads.

>>98567329
That pic has been floating around 4chan for almost a decade, long before AI started generating convincing images

Americans made wargaming shit. They are butthurt that it is an Anglophile hobby. Stay in your lane: board games that come with a thousand minis and have exploding dice mechanics.

>>98567881
Wargaming was invented by Americans

>>98568315
You make really good board games with explosions on the box art, your opinion about anything else is irrelevant

>>98568431
>you
I'm swedish

>>98568315
In my mind it started in Prussia with Kriegspiel being an officer training tool, got a second life as a hobby for gentlemen in UK thanks to H.G. Wells before becoming a consumer product sold by G.W in UK too. Where did you get your USA simping fantasy?

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>>98566470
>Can you name any good ones besides Wellington?
On boats, sure.
On land... not so much.

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>>98568712
>Swedish
MALMÖÖÖÖ

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>>98569500
>on boats
Again, you can only name one single guy who won like two battles and then died.

>>98573478
>be Lord Nelson
>accidentally stumble upon the french fleet while they're at anchor
>die
Brilliant tactician!

>>98508077
flames is dead easy to play and is like the historical version of 40k but if you actually enjoy history or like playing as any nation that isnt the USA or Germany than the boomer tier historical inaccuracies and shit balance will get at your nerves.

>>98522589
Just play the Soviets cause like 99% of everything even remotely evil or bad that happened with them was stalins retarded ass and the dipshits he put in power like beria. Your average soviet soldier was interested in nothing more than getting his licks back at the germans for blowing up his house.

I wish someone would play against me in AK-47 Republic on TTS or whatever.

Maybe play by post with a grid system from the third edition?

>>98574043
How do I play?
Do I have to play live or can I make a move, leave and come back later to make a next move like in chess?

>>98574289
I changed my mind, I'm going to simplify it down more and make a /qst/

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>>98543777
I bought this as my first intro into historical wargaming. I mostly build model kits so I am coming for the hobby side of things but also want to explore the game side of it for the first time.

What should I expect?

>>98574833
Try Ravenfeast instead, it's free.
>http://www.ravenfeast.com/

>>98573741
Did the average soviet soldier invade Eastern Europe years before Barbarossa to avenge the Germans blowing up his house in the future?

>>98574931
The average Soviet soldier hadn't been drafted or enlisted.

>>98574940
Hopefully you are aware that the USSR began combat operations immediately upon its creation, and prior to getting in the world's largest war with Germany, had already invaded Poland, Finland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and Romania (off the top of my head, so maybe more).
I think it is safe to presume that this requires soviet soldiers. So, the question remains. How come they killed all these Slavs and Balts to spite the Germans for events that hadn't yet happened?

>>98574844
Why can no one ask a question in this general without some jackass coming along and giving bad advice completely unsolicited?

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>>98574931
>>98574983
The average soldier in any conflict doesn't invade anything, he is merely a slave to his overlords. What's funny about certain far left whackos in the west nowadays who praise communism don't realize that the average soviet was far more conservative, toxic masculinity, hates fags, etc. than even your staunchest Trump Republican, most had a Orthodox Christian morality. Similar to how the average French soldier in the napoleonic era was a religious Catholic despite living in the atheistic post-revolution era.

>>98575000
Because pillage sucks.

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>>98575026
But you recommend Ravenfeast? LMAO

>>98575036
Yes, it's free so he wouldn't waste money like he has on pillage. Fuck off Victrix shill, nobody wants to play your shitty GE game clone.

>>98574983
I'm going to repeat myself even though this is obviously bait.

The stuff you mentioned happened in 1939 or earlier.

Berlin was being stormed in 1945.

There was draftees and recruits, who were 12 when Poland was invaded.

This is like saying that no Americans could enlist after 9/11, because of 9/11 and clearly all American soldiers were simply vets from the previous Gulf War.

>>98575024
You're the one who starting moralfagging about the average soldier, faggot. Can we agree that you were talking out of your ass then?
>muh based christians fought for the commies
They sure did, and muh based christian americans gave the USSR 200 billion dollars to make sure half of Europe would be communist slaves for generations. Your point?

>>98575058
>The stuff you mentioned happened in 1939 or earlier.
And therefore what? It didn't happen?
>obviously bait
>This is like saying that no Americans could enlist after 9/11
I think you're having some ESL difficulties. Nowhere did I suggest that someone "couldn't enlist", nor that soviet forces were volunteer forces or anything of the sort.

But funny that you should bring that specific example up, because it would be retarded to suggest that american soldiers fighting in the middle east were doing so due to 9/11, given that the US had been engaged in combat operations there for decades prior to 9/11 and most of the initial waves of troops deployed in the aftermath of 9/11 were already serving prior to 9/11. Same situation as pre-Barbarossa USSR. They'd been fighting in Eastern Europe for decades prior to Barbarossa, and the millions of soviet troops staged on the border in 1941 weren't time-travelling volunteers from the future.

You are still ignoring that the US massively expanded the military and had huge piles of recruits after 9/11. The Soviets also recruited more than half of their 1945 forces, after 1939.

The life expectancy rates of Soviet soldiers was too low for anything else to be the case, not to mention that all sides were increasing their militaries from 1942 onwards.

wait, hol on, didn't like half of the soviet army surrender to the nazis or die when the nazis invaded???

>>98574513
I made it and it has African in the name

>>98573478
Fuck it's this again.

1. We can name people like Rodney or Jervis but you will say "only like 2 battles each!"
2. this is because no one would fight the British because every single British ship had a better commander and crew than their opponents for like 200 years

I mean Napoleon is literally an artillary officer who won all his battles by just using cannons as cannons.

He lost after having his army run up a hill, while being shot at into volley fire, followed by a charge down the hill.

>>98574844
Buy an ad.

>>98575037
Anon... every PDF is free.

>>98575074
>muh based christian americans gave the USSR 200 billion dollars to make sure half of Europe would be communist slaves for generations
Powerful Jews on both sides orchestrated and accomplished this. Blaming average American Christians and Soviet foot soldiers is low IQ

>>98575333
British warships lost to American ships in literally every single engagement between 1812 and 1815, and half their sailors were literally nigger slaves.

>>98575366
>He lost after having his army run up a hill, while being shot at into volley fire, followed by a charge down the hill
I don't remember any of this happening at Leipzig

>>98566470
>>98573478
Richard Sharpe and Horatio Hornblower are the finest officers England has ever had

>>98575559
>Powerful Jews
Which christians are theologically bound to keep around and are the primary supporting demographic of. You're just kicking the can down the road.
>low IQ
Then you probably shouldn't have started by moralfagging about soviet troops, now should you? All of my responses are within the context of your talking about the guilt or lack of guilt of average soviet troops.

Now, do you concede that the average soviet soldier isn't a post-Barbarossa time traveller?

>>98575589
I'm not even the anon you are arguing with, cornball

>>98575597
Then you probably should have read the exchange to understand the context and remembered to type out "NTA", instead of this low impulse control jogger shit. But alas, here we are.

>>98575563
Nooooo the Americans beat some 4th rate sloops sent to a fringe conflict whilst the USA managed to have the heart of their political establishment burned to the ground, how will I ever recover from this?

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>>98574844
Thank you Anon, I will look at both and probably choose whichever will seem the more enjoyable.

I presume both can work without tons of models? One of the appeals I saw of Pillage is that you could already begin playing just with what they provide in the box.

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Bought some knights to practice NMM painting.

Hard technique, but I think it's going well enough.

>>98576618
Out-fucking-standing!

>>98576519
NTA. Pillage will work fine with low model counts. The core rules aren't the smoothest though, and I can't really see the point over just reskinning MESBG for historicals and porting over the loot and fire mechanics from Pillage.

>>98575772
We are reaching levels of COPE never before seen

I updated the AK47 folder and I have thoughts of borrowing some of the ideas of using tiles from edition 3, to port edition 1

>>98577040
Kind, but I still have lots to work on.

Good first step though.

>>98574983
yeah and stalin and his generals orchestrated these invasions via false flags with the NKVD in finland or strong arming their governments into surrending and being reintegrated back into the USSR with the baltics and romania. The USSR didnt conscript 1/5th of its population to deal with what were basically minor border conflicts.

Also funny how people always bash the USSR for reoccupying its former empire to try and secure it against germany pulling a belgium agains them but fail to mention their early attempts at making an alliance with the UK and France to destroy germany before they got to strong in the 1930s or how the USA/UK/France literally controlled like a combined 75% of the world in africa and asia and opressed and genocided millions of people for literally over 100 years.

>>98575164
They lost something like 4.3 million soldiers in 1941 thats practically the ENTIRE pre barbarossa red army because it literally exceeded their standing armies number so over 99% of soldiers serving in the red army pre barbarossa were captured, killed or wounded meaning literally any battle after 1941 (and honestly most of the battles in 1941 aswell) was using conscripts that were recruited after the invasion began.

>>98575074
quit sperging out. Your literally being a schizo because theres obviously like 3-4 different anons telling you your a retard for saying that your average soviet soldier fighting in WW2 was somehow at all responsible for pre barbarossa soviet wars when its statisically impossible

>>98553269
>This is just Warhammer brain. They literally cannot comprehend a narrative campaign or thematic scenario

I feel like this is more of a new warhammer player issue (everything from 8th and onwards is new to me) alot of the grognards that I met at my lgs love thematic battles and unique scenarios. Including myself.

What's a battle without a good story?

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My 1400s Swiss army so far, a little less than half of what's planned. So many polearm guys to paint now...

>>98580043
Cows. :)

>>98580043
The Swiss are hands down the pound for pound toughest infantrymen in the history in the world and have bodied anyone they have ever fought in a fair fight. It's strange their pussy government has gone into this strange hyper neutrality shit.

>>98580216
If they're so tough, why were they conquered by the French?

>>98580724
The french has plot armor between the years 1798 and 1812

How restrictive are pickup games with ahistorical matchups in the historical scene?

Flames of war, battlegroup, black powder etc have supplement/listbuilding books for specific theatres, e.g. eastern front ww2 lists and units will be different to those for d-day, and obviously there is an appeal to the historical verisimilitude of games. Does this mean soviet and american players don't fight each other because of poor rule support and player preference for historical engagements? How about british vs prussian napoleonics or something like Jacobites vs AWI Continentals? Locally it seems ancients are happier to fight ahistorical matchups.

I am new to historicals and trying to figure out what armies I would need to put together to stand a reasonable chance of finding people to play with.

>>98579817
>funny how people who talk about a topic don't randomly bring up unrelated topics
Paranoid schizophrenia.
>>98579858
>The entire soviet army was staged on the border to Germany, so therefore they weren't soviet troops
kek
>thinks WW2 started in 1941
russian detected

>>98580724
Is there any single country bordering France that was never ever pounded by the frogs?

>>98580043
Best painted cows I have seen this decade. Kudos anon.

>>98579865
If I was feeling philosophical, I'd say it was emblematic of the general lack of trust and belief in good faith at the moment. Someone wanting to do something different is OBVIOUSLY out to fuck you over, right?
Could also get into the typical relationship to video games that tend to do that for 'special events', and also that they train a player that "here are the maps/levels and playing structure provided, you can't change this yourself". Perhaps even a weakening of the bonds between wargames and role-playing. Maybe even a lack of popular recent wargame-adjacent movies to riff on.
Or maybe I'm just an old fart yelling at clouds. Quite likely, all things considered.

>>98580907
In my experience, people are more than willing to accommodate differences for the sake of a game, understanding that we all have our different interests. Almost inevitable in Ancient especially,, given the time span. My Romans have marched against New Kingdom Egypt, Mongols, Tibetans (of all things) and Classical Greeks, to name a few. The equivalent of "you up for 2000 pts on Tuesday?" has been going on long before anyone in Nottingham had the bright idea to write something to encourage customers to buy more toys.
I will say that WW2 Western allies infighting does seem rare, now I think about it, but whether that's reflective of distaste or wanting something a bit more exotic than hot Sherman on Sherman action is up for debate.

>>98581745
I feel like warhammer has shifted to focus completely on playing a competitive game for tournaments.

Which doesn't allow for things such as random occurrences and gives rise to arguing over template hits and such.

So narrative gaming and just plain enjoying your time immersing yourself with rules that are supposed to emulate "real life" such as scatter, spotting, armor facing, vehicle damage charts. Are generally frowned upon because its not competitive.

This is why I always say tournament players don't have souls.

>>98580907
Depends on the game. Definitely should offer you some flexibility if we are talking Jacobite and AWI era level difference. I see big gamers taking major liberties in Renaissance wargaming because ultimately there are weird overlap periods where late medieval style troops are giving way to landsknecht companies and later, the tercio. In the English Civil War a bunch of people fought with bows and 100 year old "new old stock" Morions bought from Spain.

So a difference of 25-50 years I think the gentle approach is better while you get your house in order.

Then there are games like Hail Caesar or DBA or Lion Rampant which could cover anything from dark ages to wars of the roses so no reason not to have french knights vs saxons in a friendly game.

>>98581784
Depends on the tournament. In some games the tournament is so the demographic of busy people who play said game can get six done in a day and meet other people who play it, which for some games is hard. I don't know any muhfukka play Impetus

I have never had huge issues with people doing crazy exploitative shit, maybe a couple of rules lawyers or a bit of irregular measuring here or there. I have literally never met a single Neo Nazi historical gamer either, but I've met fuck-tonnes in GW land and thereabouts.

GENERALLY people who actually do this shit aren't swots and are pretty helpful

Any good figure packs for the battle of aughrim / the boyne? I love a romantic lost cause and wanna test out DBR

I have a feeling I would embarrass myself with wire pikes so 15mm, 10mm or 6mm with csst pikes?

>>98581784
I dont disagree that Warhammer has BEEN refocussed, but I don't think it is tournament play in and of itself. I know old boys who were playing in organised tournaments (of historical rules like DBA, WRG etc) when I still thought dice games were just snakes and ladders. And I say this as someone with no interest whatsoever in tournaments.
I think there's been a confluence of events.
1. The collapse of Warmahordes meant that the main tourney crowd came crawling back
2. GW decided to openly listen to the internet as international customer engagement.
3. The 'old guard' was moving on, either to frankly better paid careers with more of a future or simply ageing out.
4. The next generation (arguably mine, or slightly younger) that replaced them:
A. being raised by /v and the foibles of computer games viz setups and inflexibility, but also Damage being the only stat that matters.
B. an understandable online focus on RAW as a mutual point of understanding.
5. The Internet, having an American accent, latches onto store-based PUG play, which prioritises speed and streamlining.

The problem this causes downstream is that GW is, currently, this hobby's recruiting sergeant. And those shiny eyed little Timmy's are being taught about "gaming culture" and rule design by people who didn't get that Page 5 was a joke.

>>98574833
Idk, I hear its fun if unpolished. I bought it because I like the models and they were cheap (compared to GW shit nowadays) and I can use the terrain for WHFB as well.

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Another knight added to practice NMM on.

>>98505527
Hey it's not our fault you're a bunch of cowardly pussified collaborators who chose to sign armistices with the Nazis and Italians rather than fight on. Those ships absolutely would have ended up in Axis hands, if that wasn't what the French government intended they would have had them scuttled *before* signing the documents. As for saving our force at Dunkirk, that was payment for services rendered you cheese munching poof, without the BEF your buffoonish incompetent military would have folded even faster.

Regardless, the whole affair only unfolded as it did because of your own poncy and incompetent officers. The French Admiral was so up-himself he undermined the whole negotiation by refusing to interact with a mere Captain(the best French speaker the British had amongst them, because of course Admiral Le Hon Hon Hon Baguette wouldn't deign to speak English) and so sent an even more junior officer to discuss terms, then he ignored the fact that the chief of the French Navy had given him the option to leave the Med and sail for the French West Indies and kept telling your government that the only choices available were surrender & internment or open battle. Meanwhile said chief of the French Navy had apparently ponced off home and gone incommunicado, so couldn't point out his subordinates' retardation.

As usual, the French blame everyone else for their own fuckups, although I suppose any nation might do the same to avoid confronting the reality they got pissed on by the German military, surrendered, and almost all of them collaborated with the Nazis for the whole war.

>>98583109
>country is 50% brown and run by small hats
>anon is still seething about evil moustache man

>>98583750
>small hats
The Turks?

>>98505527
What actually happened was the UK worked very hard to bring back one free french soldier for every British.

And then a year later, almost all of them went home and surrendered.

Thinkimg about entering napoleonics again. Can't quite settle on scale though between 20,15 and 10mm.

>>98584349
15mm.

>>98584349
15mm for delightful skirmishes, 10mm for big games, 28mm for your kids to paint

>>98584349
28mm for small skirmishes and kino miniatures. 15mm for big skirmishes to full battles. 10mm just play hex and chit at this point. 20mm is useless - not small enough to have the pros of 15mm, not big enough to look good as 28mm. Totally appalling scale, and all the models are low quality monopose plastic army men style from Russia.

>>98585522
There is no reason to play 10mm over 15mm for big battles unless you're trying to play on a coffee table. Just get a bigger table broke ass nigga

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>>98585957
>There is no reason to play 10mm over 15mm for big battles
Apart from getting more miniatures on the same footprint?

>>98586143
Just use a bigger footprint doofus

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>>98586146
They are also quicker to paint.

>>98505527
>Mers-el-Kebir
It wasn't a surprise attack like Pearl Harbour.
The French Navy was given the choice to either join up with the Royal Navy in the Mediterranean, or scuttle their ships. After rejecting this warning (showing that they'd rather join the Axis) they were attacked by the British.

>>98586187
>showing that they'd rather join the Axis
non sequitur

>>98586187
Kek perfidious britbong simply can't comprehend why this is morally reprehensible to destroy your closest ally

>>98505527
Your fleet was given a choice to join or die and chose to die.
As for Dunkirk, it wouldn't have happened if your army had fought. Instead we got a repeat of the 1914 "Merde! England will save us!" Except this time your joke of an 'army' didn't even manage to hold for long enough for us to get anything more than a preliminary expedition force over, not that it would have helped much because holy shit, the French army folded like a wet paper bag in a gale. And I say this as an enjoyer of French interwar armour whom owns a 1940 French army.

>>98543267
Smaller forces, its a platoon level game rather than company level, and I don't have the v3 rules.

>>98586457
>historylet
NTA, but this is too much to bear.
The BEF began shipping to France the day after the British declaration of war in September '39. The French invaded Germany a few days after that. The German invasion of France came seven months later in May '40.
Just shut the fuck up, you memefed boomer retard.

>>98586604
Stop crying pierre, it's not our fault your army caved. Perhaps you should have trained your men better instead of expecting Britain to just rush to your aid again.

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>>98584349
10mm because 15mm minis are more expensive than plastic 28mm.
>>98586143
What I've noticed is that people never make units larger when going down sizes. My 15mm late Roman project died years ago but I had planned on each unit consisting of three bases.

>>98586457
Yeah, you don't go to a neutral fleet or army and say "join or die", that's not how it works at all. Holy brainlet.

I noticed you have nothing to say about Bir Hakeim. Not even "thanks". That's how anybody can tell you're full of shit and your fiction isn't worth reading. That's your first and only reply from me, prisoner of his majesty Sausage Fingers.

>>98586668
>instead of expecting Britain to just rush to your aid again
Britain declared war before France did. The Western Front of WW2 was a British-led Brit/Frog project, which Germany wanted no part in. You're pretending May 1940 triggered September 1939.
I really can't tell if you're some idiot-box history channel sloppa boomertard or a weird troll. Either way, no more (yous) from me.