Avg 11th edition fan
Average 2-4th Edition Enjoyer
okayplay 2nd, 3rd, or 4th edition then
>>98504354Someone seems upset, perhaps a side effect of playing 11th edition?
>>98504367Every edition of Warhammer sucks.Just play what you want, fucking retard.
>>98504401No matter what I play 11th edition will still be only for retarded cucks
>>98504319>>98504314>Average 2-4th Edition Enjoyer
>>98504419Watched about 6 batreps and it’s always the same:>i annihilate an entire unit in one round of shooting>i charge and annihilate an entire unit in one round of close combat And if that doesn’t miraculously happen? Don’t worry command point reroll and special rules save the day. The apparent counter play being to buy the newest slop with T12 and 40 attacks with full rerolls (but only until the back stock sells then it’s time for “much needed balancing”)
>>98504401You do realize that you need multiple people to play a game as opponents right? Retarded nigger?
>>98504538Exactly. The game has been completely fucked.
old world GODS still eating good
>>98504555I do like the rules but I cannot afford the minis. I did buy a box or two when they first released just out of hype but now with the scheduled price increase I can’t justify it anymore. Plus not a lot of ppl at my local play it.
>>98504549It is staggering how much GW shills do damage control for that shitty company. They should have died off in the early 2000s but their fans are legitimately addicted. Thats how they can get away with the shit they did to the baneblade.
>>98504538The game doesn't even use actual tactics anymore.It's all about special rules, rerolls, standing in the right spots, etc.
>>98504314I don't understand this obsession with bitching about a game you claim to have written off two decades ago, even the OSR guys don't complain about current DnD with this much zeal.
>>98504636Nobody’s written it off they just miss when the game wasn’t catered to literal trannies and competetive faggots and YouTube influencers. You CAN enjoy an older iteration of something, I know that’s not in an official FAQ but it’s true.
>>98504636To be fair the gay demons game that is called D&D now is an abomination.
>>98504646That's my point: the OSR guys aren't hyperfixated on talking about how 5e sucks, they're playing and talking about OSR games. At some point you have to let go and instead put that effort into the versions of the game you loved.
>>98504538>6 batrepsHow many batreps in a batset? Batreps till failure?
>>98504544It's difficult for the sort of pond slime that post here, but not for anyone that thinks talking to people in their local community is a better use of time than shitposting online
>>98504676Yeah I literally got bullied out of the store for doing that by some hyper positive faggots who said “well we’re having fun stop being a downer and desu you can have fun or just don’t play” so im definitely jaded but there’s no one here else to play with. Tried to do a demo of Old World and this stupid fucking faggot kept saying “wow dude that’s so small why don’t you play AoS dude… only 4 in movement? Only one attack? Dude that’s so lame! The new sculpts” I think all the people who played older editions either passed away or just gave up because of the incessant faggotry.
>>98504763My local community is filled with literal subhuman consoomer pigs who will straight up argue with you or make quips if you ask them to play an older edition or try something else.
>>98504720I luled, keked even
>>98504897the faq'd game is how they validate who they are as a person, if they don't play the current game, they are nobody
>>9850431411th doesn't use circles anymore
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>>98504897Okay.My community has a thriving oldhammer fanbase. Even outright discontinued games like warmaster or mordheim have groups.
>>98504914KEK
>>98505124>Kekking at slop/tg/ has fallen
>>98505203you will never be a woman
>>98505203
>>98504401>WarhammerYou wouldn't know, since you're such a 10th edition newfag you don't even realize we only called it 40k for like 35 years.
>>98504319Look at these motherfuckers.Having fun.Enjoying a sense of community.Gleefully checking out someone else's game.Fucking disgusting.Get the tourneyfag terrain out NOW.
>>98505272
>>98505272I play 10th/11th and there's always at least one table playing and chatting it up and chilling. Sometimes the game takes 4+ hours because we can't stop yapping between each other.
>>98505248Nah, this sucks actually.Part of the joy of this picture is that it's a bunch of normal fucking dudes. Maybe even a little on the dorky side.They're you. Not some caricature of exaggerated masculinity. They're you as you are. You are someone who can be part of a community. You are someone who is capable of having friends. You are someone who can be captured in a candid moment of joy.You are someone who is allowed to be happy.
>>98505287That's better.
>>98505288>W-we can have community tooInsecure 11th editioners can see that this game used to have soul, and are desperate to pretend that it hasn't been cored out in favor of "competitive balance"
>>98505301>>98504319
>>98505307just fucking imagine having bought a thousand bucks worth of minis and then having them get turned into worthless dogshitit's over
>>98505346It's a subgenre of financial cuckoldry, also known as findom.These "paypiggies" get a perverse sense of sexual gratification from having their recently purchased minis nerfed.
>>98505321Thank you for correcting the Truth™. Demoralization agents are everywhere.
>The only Tsons detachment with PtF is now the Tzaangorspam detachmentIt seems like GW took all of the detachments that made certain playstyles viable with specific armies and gave them Force Dispositions counter-intuitive to them in the name of “””balance”””. Rubricae Phalanx is much better suited for PtF than an army of 1 wound chickens.
>>98504894>>98504538>>98504897It is getting really bad. A lot of people started doing this lately at my local stores. There is this one massive fat fuck at one of the shops I go to who shits on anyone playing certain factions because the sculpts are "old and ugly" or because something is not "viable". Someone could want to try or start nighthaunt, and he'll come in to shit all over nighthaunt and anyone who wants to play. The faggot also will just start shitting on people playing any old world faction with old models. If you mildly disagree with him, he'll start making up stories about how you are an angry player who starts shit. It is really weird. Guy also claims to not be competitive but only runs comp lists. Dude is admittedly a really good painter, but he starts so much shit and has so much ego for a dude who smells like trash and has clothes that can't fit his fat ass.
>>98504623To be fair, that last one is at least accurate to real warfare. Positioning is a huge deal.
>>98504314That terrain is all illegal in 11th edition
>>98506087>2000syou tried
>>98505292The second pic is more like me
>>98506087>2000sThe HRT crack epidemic didn't hit until the late 2010s you zoomer mongboy. Also you don't pass and everyone knows what you are within seconds
It's the card game mechanics.
>>98506597Oh, is that what the "you tried" in the other post was about? I thought he was going "heh, minor grammar error".Yeah sorry dude, I wasn't talking about increased trans visibility in the media, I was talking about actual trans people. Based on the age of the people in that picture and how long ago it was taken, a transition in the 00's would be way more likely.
>>98506046KEK, you 40keks have never played another wargame and it shows
>>98506828This is the biggest issue. Most of the game is figuring out turn sequencing and when to activate all your little buffs and trap cards which aren't tied to any models or visible wargear in any way.
>>98507022Not even a cool card game like Tanto Cuore.
I'm so sick of this website being green reddit full of people pretending they play a game
>>98507239No one actually plays 40k.Unless they are playing 3rd/4th. Everyone else is pretending to play
>>98504319>>98504314I HATE THE NEOPRENE MATI HATE THE NEOPRENE MATI HATE THE NEOPRENE MAT
>>98505321Perfection. It can't possibly get any better than that.
>>98505321How does that terrain work in terms of TLoS?
>>98506087This is what troons do, try to make you think anyone you express even the slightest respect for is actually one of them, and try to lie about how long troons have been trooning because they're desperate to not look like a fad.
>>98507819To be fair, there have been some high profile trannies in nerd communities for ages. Vaugh Bode, the big underground sci-fi and fantasy artist from the 60s that Ralph Bakshi shamelessly ripped off Wizards from, was crossdressing and, I think, taking hormones, way back in the day.
>>98507532>tlos>40klol
>>98505287Kek
>>98504939That’s awesome man. I’m working on a bunch of scratch built stuff before I tackle a second army so I can make the demo games a real spectacle.
>>98505321
>>98506029At least he can paint. The guy in talking about literally only buys GW terrain and slops everything with contrast paint. I will give him credit: he rarely fields unpainted models. But the paypiggy mindset has consumed him. Imagine what a great scratch builder he could have been.
>>98506087You’re probably not old enough to remember this anon, but trannies weren’t a thing that you saw in public until 10 years ago, and even it was extremely rare outside of organized pride events. I didn’t see one in a gaming store until 2022. This narrative about it always having been a thing is very much a piece of fiction.>t. never saw a tranny in a grocery store until covid and I live in a fucking seattle exurb>also, you don’t pass, the covid mask isn’t fooling anyone
>>98504314I joined a local slow grow league for 11th and made 2 friends so far. Dont know what kind of try hard weirdos are in your scene. Here its borderline normie central. People have wives and kids
Warhammer was a mistake.
>>98509962>Warhammer
>>98504555Morale system utterly ruins TOW
>>98507905>high profile>Vaugh BodeWho?>Ralph Bakshi Who?
>>98510612What did they do to the morale system in TOW?(Yes I'm asking to be spoonfed)
>>98504555>GodsYou could still be playing 6th but you choose to give money to GW, for mini's that are older than some people in this website. A d books that are out of date before they hit stores. Better paint fast because another edition is coming!
>>98505885That's how they are trying to balance purge. GW realized (along with everyone) how purge is the best disposition so they pretty much try to limit it to shit detachments. Like for example with Battle Sisters only the penitent spam detachment can get purge.
>>98511029Isn’t this similar to how 7th edition handled formations and people hated it?
>>98504319Bro on the left is huge. Usually when you see old photos of "fat" people from the 00's or earlier they're way smaller than you remember. I wonder if he's still alive. Gaming is a pretty high-mortality lifestyle. Lots of heart attacks in their 30's, cancer in their 40's, An Heroings, etc. If you haven't seen a dude at your LGS for awhile Google their name, you'll often find an obit. >>98504612Yeah, looking back it was kinda weird that I felt loyalty for GW and hated the Warmachine players. Monopolies are always a bad thing. Look how bad Microsoft, Google et al have gotten.
>>98510621You have to be at least 18 years old to post here. I'm 38 and I know who those people are.
>>98504314>>98504319at the very least, these are passionate people with genuine interest in the hobby. not a nose ring in sight. paradise lost.
>>98504314I don't mind dyed hair but at least shave the beard or at least trim it? Looks scruffy as fuck
>>98511940It hides the fact his weak jawline has been subsumed by an extra chin.
>>98511319No it's not. In 7th you could just take any formations you wanted and it may have given you some special rules. Disposition determines what kind of objectives you'll be scoring during the mission.
The players are always in the wrong for behaving like this (fucking spray your terrain a can of black then a can of grey at least) but GW's fucking awful maps are just garbage.Their map layouts never make any sense with the terrain and are just random rectangles thrown around the map.
>>98513273>failed MOBA layout
>>98511521God that picture is fucking grim. And yeah I think you had mentioned that before in another thread and you’re right, it is a bit concerning I think it attracts a lot of people with mental illness too and I genuinely am convinced that these companies are taking advantage of people’s mental issues and forming these parasocial relationships to better abuse them and exploit them for money.
>>98513228I always heard it was very much a broken system that was used to sell models more than anything. Pretty grim that this is somehow worse than 7th edition which forced them to completely and utterly reboot 40k.
>>98514482Depends on what faction you played and what formation you took as well as how competitive you were.I just played Eldar and took the Aspect warrior formation that gave all your aspect warriors WS/BS 2+. Based as fuck and didn't have to add random models to my list at all.
>>98505292Except he isn't any of those things. He's posturing on a meat cutting board over which manbarbie game is correct instead of enjoying any facet of the hobby. Gigachad churkas fit perfectly in this context.
>>98504314This image gets posted a lot. Is he like an LGS lolcow? Is he a meme? I am curious to the full story and context.
>>98504636The reason why I bitch about 40k despite having moved on from it years ago is to warn newfags. 40k draws in way too many new wargamers while much better systems struggle for new players. I think it is a noble task to mock 40k and warn newcomers how much of a trashfire that game is, pointing them towards better systems.
>>98504314The anti-Warhammer threads tend to radiate a music genre tribalism sort of autism where it is always against the most popular thing. If somehow a new wargame overtakes Warhammer would we be posting this kind of stuff but towards it? >>98515251I will concede that 40k as a game isn't that good because the edition cycle is way too fast which makes me look for alternatives to keep using 40k models. I like the setting though. GW primarily revolves around WAACfags working things out and Warhammer fans geeking out and having fun with likeminded geeks that picks up the slack of the rules quality or lack of rules quality. GW could have both with the best of both worlds but chooses not to spend the money to get good game writers. This may be by design so that players never have a truly good edition and thus will keep going to the next edition in the fast cycle.So what specific games do you recommend for reusing 40k models?>inb4 the ones listed on the /40kg/ OPhttps://onepagerules.com/https://www.starbreach.com/homehttps://nolimitswargames.wordpress.com/I see Xenos Rampant posted a lot, but apparently it's "fog of war" mechanics where sometimes units do nothing is criticized.
>>98515269>If somehow a new wargame overtakes Warhammer would we be posting this kind of stuff but towards it?thats a bit of a purely academic scenario, because the only reason warhammer is so dominant is because they used their first-move advantage to snowball their success until they were the only player in townand since tabletop games rely primarily on networking benefits, you can only ever play with others, it becomes impossible to actually dislodge warhammer from its perch because any new game has less network value by defaulteven if warhammer was magically deleted tomorrow, no game would hold the same dominance warhammer does today because all those new games will have to compete with each other and none will have the same first move advantage warhammer did
>>98505292NTA but thank you for this, based wholesome anon.
>>98515243He's not really the point of the image. It's that bleak table which is considered "ideal" in modern 40k.
>>98504314Why is/tg/ obsessed with this guy?What's the lore behind it?
>>98519326Basic tier anti40gay spam.
>>98514482The 7th edition detachments had some fun stuff, like buffing otherwise shitty units. But James couldnt help but use it to give bonuses to already good stuff. I still think 7th is fun if you and your opponent arent retarded
>>985217787th as a rule system is not horrible.Specially if you consider that it is trying to fix the mess that 5th and 6th introduced.The main issue with 7th has always been the army rules.Put a 3rd edition codex with 7th rules and it works fin. Back port a 7th codex to 3rd and the shit is still broken as fuck even with more limiting basic rules.3rd GSC get absolutely destroyed by 7th GSC and GSC are not even the in the top 50% more broken shit from 7th.Sisters of Battle from 7th are so efficient compared to 3rrd Sisters that is not even fun to play.How do I know? Well I've played it
>>98522159Definitely agree. 7th was where the trend of GW making everything cheaper and more points efficient really hit its peak(detachments for already good units getting even more bonuses for example)Thats why I play a slightly modified 5th edition with some friends if we ever play 40k
>>98522159the crimes of 7th ed were design-by-accrual for a game that hadn't had any major rules changes in two decades, and problems at high point limits like the tournament standard 2000 points, and that the big rule book list of universal special rules were bad for sales-demos. A lot of armies could make pretty fun lists at 500 or 750 points, where games were still manageable, and model counts were about what a 1500 point game in third edition were.
>>98504314I know this nigga lol He smells exactly how he looks
>>98513273The funniest part is that the first time they put out examples of these layouts they intentionally didn't include measurements bc the "didn't want to be too limiting, this is just a rough idea" but within 24hrs the competitive crowd had reverse engineered exact measurements from the image.
>>98504314Dude is getting gaped in the lgs thread btw
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