A thread for discussing the Star Wars franchise and its various media and tabletop games.Pellaeon-class Edition>Adepticon roadmaps:https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-legion/https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/adepticon-2026-roadmap-star-wars-shatterpoint/>Surprise Rocket B2 on 9/11https://store.asmodee.com/products/star-wars-legion-b2-super-rocket-battle-droidsPrevious: >>98345762Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing, Armada, and Legion>https://pastebin.com/9puqx1zeStar Wars Roleplaying Games (d6/d20/FFG)>https://pastebin.com/iUriRfaAOther FFG Star Wars tabletop (Imperial Assault, Destiny and the LCG)>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yNOld links>https://pastebin.com/yUVx32wBX-Wing/Armada/Legion/Shatterpoint:>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/transmission/update-on-star-wars-x-wing-and-star-wars-armada/>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-documents>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/star-wars-legion-transmissions>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/swp-transmissions/>https://www.atomicmassgames.com/swp-rules/Latest Edge news:>https://edge-studio.net/a-new-hope/>https://edge-studio.net/star-wars-edge/Unlimited links:>https://starwarsunlimited.com/articles/>https://swudb.com/>https://karabast.netTQ: How often do you use Pellaeon-class Star Destroyers in your games?
>>98505457Long time no see, Pallaeonfag.Anyways, you should all post minis and play tabletop games.
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>>98505657Don't got money for tabletop. I just play RPG's at this point.
>>98505657Is that AU Anakin leading droids (used as a Ventress proxy) or are you using Anakin as a Vader proxy? Are Fifth Brother Riot Squad good in your experience? They seem good, but probably I guess not strong enough to deal with Ventress BXs?Not a fan of the B1s colored BXs but I can't deny it looks cool.Nice table too.
>>98506873My opponent forgor his ventress mini and had to borrow Ani as proxy.5th bro riots are good, but they are primarily a tarpit, and they can be very fast with the double spur. The impervious change definitely hurts the squad, pierce 1 stocks went way down. I think they are fun, and hard to remove. A fun trick with riots is to bring Thrawn and have them double tap in melee with his 2 pip.I generally think that if you are running Riots, you either un them naked, or KX + Kallus+Imperial march OR 5th brother. Otherwise, they are in this weird spot of being both expensive and not doing enough damage.
can the new mando army use super commandos or would they have to be proxies
>>98507420You can with Clan Saxon
>>98505457any Star Wars YouTubers you guys follow? I am not really talking about big ones but like sub 50k? There must be some good EU ones
>>98505457>who could darth sidious be?>we have intercepted CIS holograms probably hundred times but we can't tell who this guy with the same voice and physique as the chancellor is>if only he wasn't obscured by a cloak that leaves his facial features very recognizable
>>98507470I follow hundreds but mainly they range from 100-10k subsill give you the GOAT Matt Wilkins https://www.youtube.com/@kidcardcohttps://www.youtube.com/@ChristopherNelson1976https://www.youtube.com/@fineadditionshttps://www.youtube.com/@CantinaConversationhttps://www.youtube.com/@JakeTalksStarWarshttps://www.youtube.com/@lanceleibrock7https://www.youtube.com/@LegendsLiteraturehttps://www.youtube.com/@MagnenoAlexWilkinshttps://www.youtube.com/@StarWarsExpandedUniversehttps://www.youtube.com/@RadioFreeCoruscanthttps://www.youtube.com/@SarlaccDigesthttps://www.youtube.com/@scott_johnson_https://www.youtube.com/@SithSlayer1977https://www.youtube.com/@sonofluke3172https://www.youtube.com/@TheGeeksAttichttps://www.youtube.com/@thorskywalkerthere are many more too
Elves in space, wat do?
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Visas Marr is hot, and I wish there was more good fanart of her.
>>98509668Vsauce isn't as hot as the Handmaiden.
>>98509450Yep, that's what elves are made for.
>>98508954Feels a little weird seeing a space elf in Star Wars anything. I know that aylmao species from Star Wars are mostly modified human designs but this unironically made me think of the LOTR BMW with optional heated seating meme.Is the design by chance an EU reference? I like some things from canon and some from EU. Any Star Wars TTRPG would be a silly mishmash of both continuities.
>>98509668Visas Marr got that Dark Side bad girl drip and a submissive personality. Of course she is best girl.
>"Objection, your Honor. I can't be guilty of murder, because the Sith aren't people."
>>98513278
>only star wars things i'm excited for is zero company and galactic racer
>>98514787watched a video from some guy who got early access and zero company looks very promisingremoves my least favorite part of xcom (the dogshit preamble before first running into the enemy in a mission)
>>98514787Anon,you don't have to consoom ALL of star wars. Beine excited for just a few parts is more healthy, probably
I love the customizable kits so much it's unreal. I hope AMG just keeps adding these, /your dudes/ is definitely the way to go for Legion.Kinda funny that this is the only one where you get a distinct male/female body, rather than just head.
>>98515061on the upside it seems the live action stuff is ending for nowbut it just feels like i'm missing out because I don't "get" a lot of itgranted a lot of it is trash but stillat least theres been some thing about animated stuff being prioritized because its cheaper and quicker to make, the animation has been consistent
I'm quitting my group that I've been with for 2 months now because I was tricked by a smuggler into drinking Terentatek semen and partially deafening myself to the force.
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>>98517325It's not that funny man...
>>98517282Genuinely, how could this have happened?
>>98512961There was an EU Space elf species that was canonised but no idea if the ones in 9th Jedi are related.
>>98518279They spiked his blue milk when he wasn't watching.
>>98512961I just thought it was production IG being kinda lazy, same with the space dwarfs
>>98518548There are always elves & dwarves in JP media pretty much these days. On the other hand, now there are SW Squats.
>>98518279>>98518471The game had been running for 5 months before I joined 2 months ago, at the request of my friend, the GM. The party had killed a Sith Alchemist before I joined, and before he was killed, he tried to get the Twilek Scoundrel in the party to deliver some Sith alchemy supplies to the BBEG Sith Lord, which was how the party would infiltrate his stronghold. Those supplies went into the Scoundrels inventory when he died, and my Jedi Guardian is particularly power hungry, and the Scoundrel tricked me into drinking one of the vials, saying he got it from a Sith, and promising me power. The GM had me roll to resist it's effects, I rolled a 1, and the 32oz worth of fluid that I chugged caused my veins to turn black and made me fall unconscious. When I awoke, my ability to use the force was severely weakened. A ship analysis droid identified the liquid as Terentatek semen, and the GM told me the sperm cells survived my stomach acids and after my body absorbed them, attacked the midichlorians in my body, permanently reducing all of my attributes. I got up and left after that, and have been ignoring their messages for the past few days.
>>98518648I'm sure they will show up in the Star Wars D&D books.
>>98518890KWAB
>>98518890>and the GM told me the sperm cells survived my stomach acids and after my body absorbed them, attacked the midichlorians in my body, permanently reducing all of my attributes.Easily fixable, if you want to.PICREL
>look up video on the real value of dual wielding>it goes into the sword + dagger combo as being a benefit where the dagger can be used for defenseNo. Wrong. Bad video. You intercept the sword with your sword, close the distance, and then stab your opponent in the liver.
>>98512961Fay was basically a space elf Jedi Master.And there's always Jarael, pic related.
>>98520673>>98512961And Fay. Name is probably a take off of "fey" as in elf.
>>98519040What the hell am I supposed to do?>>98520082That's even worse. There's no way I could suggest that.
>>98520689Play ist straight. Your Jedi starts going into depression even perhaps denial an ally could do something like this. Ultimately? Fall to the dark side argue that since it is easier than light side you should get stronger in the force again, cut off one of the scoundrels arms (or head tentacles)or kill sonething that is VERY dear to him saying "now you have a little glimpse of what i lost" and make him your eternal slave. Or don't bitch about it and talk to your GM and other Players like a man and ask them to retcon it since there would be no plausible reason for the group to work together again after this cum incident.
>>98520689>That's even worse. There's no way I could suggest that.Bro the DM had you take the Set Special.Tell them your character is now completely convinced that The Force is Orgone energy and the only reason the Council really did the whole no attachments thing is because clearly it'd cause imbalances between male and female Jedi.Look him square in the eye and say "You caused this, this game is now about the rise of Darth Cummies and you have no one to blame but yourself."
genuinely why doesnt anakin facetime his son (who he died protecting) and instead calls his padawan who he knew for only 3 years all the time
>>98521420Because said Padawan is a fan fiction Mary Sue
>>985214201: Luke isn't a FilOniC and therefore unimportant in Didneywars.2: Luke never tossed his salad during the clone wars, the only important time in Didneywars history.
>>98521420Why are EUnuchs so obsessed with Luke?
>>98521420I've seriously been thinking about it and I believe Force Ghosts have an especially strong tie to their Padawan, rather than their family.Qui-Gonn appears to Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan and Yoda appear to Luke while Anakinshows up for Ahsoka because a Force Ghost's ability must be used to provie guidance to your student in their time of needs, not to call your kid and ask how they are doing.So Luke doesn't get calls from Anakin because he wasn't Anakin's student and isn't really facing any serious self-doubt between RotJ and the ST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxAgeglgSeAFinal trailer for Zero Company. I have such girlboss fatigue, bros...
>>98521420Because the comics established that vader knew about palpatine's plans and because the writers are retarded they didn't consider that this would mean either ruining his character or luke's because he either chose not to tell luke or told luke and luke didn't care in order for their shitty sequel trilogy to happenbut MUH FILONI amirite
>>98522214>but MUH FILONI amiriteactually yes, just because anakin can't/won't appear to luke, does not mean he should appear to ahsokabut because ahsoka has never been given the development as a character outside of anakin, anakin needs to constantly be referenced if not appear outright because otherwise she just has nothing and is rightfully boringso yes it is "muh filoni" because he's a retard who never once considered that ahsoka needs to exist as a character outside of anakin to be compellingbesides, why can't anakin just tell ahsoka about palpatine still being alive? he had a good 5 years after RoTJ to do so
>>98522272blinded by irrational hate once againif only there were a story about the effects of this sort of thing
>>98522365can you address the point I made?
>>98522365nta but if you're going to suck your own dick can you at least do it somewhere private instead of making the rest of us watch?
>>98522383You didn't make a point, it's not filoni's fault that the retarded sequels and comics are so badly written that if anakin told anybody what he knew the sequels wouldn't happen
>>98522505sure, but saying filoni is innocent in the enture topic is factually incorrectjust because anakin doesnt appear to luke does not mean he should appear for ahsokaand again, what was stopping anakin frim telling ahsoka about exegol if the plot demands he cant tell luke?
>>98521420I agree with this, if only because it seems that Ahsoka and the Rebels crew are going to be at the helm of the nuThrawn trilogy.
>>98521420Ahsoka isn't actually interacting with Anakin's ghost, she's just suffering PTSD-induced hallucinations from being a former child soldier.
>>98521176>You caused this, this game is now about the rise of Darth Cummies and you have no one to blame but yourself.
wow swapping these hands out to give my mandos DC15s is way more finicky than I would've expected, one dude took 45 minutes just to get looking moderately acceptableMaybe I'll just paint up a unit of clone marksmen for fun in addition to them instead lmao
>>98517282>>98518890>tricked by a smuggler into drinking 32oz of Terentatek semen>the sperm cells survived my stomach acids and after my body absorbed them, attacked the midichlorians in my body, permanently reducing all of my attributesAre you telling me the fucking Terentatek sperm cells traveled through his blood stream, attacked and killed a large amount of his midichlorians, and permanently partially deafened him to the Force? This is absolutely disgusting, but I'm genuinely fascinated by the mind that could look at different Star Wars media and come up with something like that. Not even in Swtor would something as crazy as that take place. I could understand an Sith Alchemist using its skin or blood, but cum is insane.
>>98523884That's not how you repopulate Mandalore...
>>98523897maybe she has a strapon apparatus loaded with mando spum since paz is dead
Or they all become members of mangoes harem
>>98523884I've noticed a LOT of JP artists shipping bo and the armorer
>>98524236Mango, you say?
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>>98505657Didn't get a pic in, but had a fun little board full of trees and crashed escape pods for the party to recover and conduct search and rescue to.
>>98515174Them yours, anon?
>>98518890>>98523875Sith Alchemy is no joke. Exar Kun was a freak.
>>98524844They sure are. Not sure if you saw me post the lore documents for my armies, but they are meant to be specific characters for my Empire/CIS
>>98523875Just as importantly, it means someone:a: Has access to a Terentatekb: The Jedi has just discovered they can probably permanently remove someone's force powers using its spermI'm not saying training a Terentatek to rape your enemies into submission is the Jedi wayBut it could be.
>>98525048I don't believe a Jedi could train a Terentatek. They're only receptive to the powers of the Dark side. A Jedi would be assaulted and turned into a Fleshlight. I think what's scarier, a Sith can turn Jedi into slaves by having a Terentatek turn them into inert fuckmeat.
>>98525094>I want to learn the Force Rape power, which transforms me into a hentai bastard and lets me mindbreak my enemies out of their force powers.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKF0julgLJ4>Look asshole, it's not my fault you made this shit canon, I don't own the restaurant, I'm just ordering from the menu.
>>98525107It sounds like you just want to play Corruption of Champions.
>>98522168I am actually interested to see what the Umbaran guy’s deal is, he seems based
>>98525048>>98525094Aren't Terentateks made specifically to hunt force users? How do Sith control them?
>>98520082Just like in Norse mythology!
>>98518890Midichlorians aren't responsible for the proclivity with the Force. They are just a microscopic lifeform that shows up in high numbers in those with high Force sensitivity.
>>98525648Isn't that contradicted by George Lucas saying Anakin will never be as powerful as Sidious due to losing his limbs?
>>98525464I would suspect by just pointing them in the direction of the nearest Jedi and letting them loose.
>>98525711What's stopping them from attacking the Sith though? If I recall correctly, in swtor a majority of the Terentatek you fight are on the imperial side.>inb4 swtor
>>98525672Isn't that contradicted by George Lucas being George Lucas?
>>98522816What a braindead argument. So the rest of Star Wars should forever be bound to J.J. Abrams' and Rian Johnson's stupidity? Why? Because the sequels were made with the prequel hate in mind and the idea of never referencing them that means Anakin Skywalker should never ever appear ever again, even though Return of the Jedi established that he can appear as a ghost? Which takes priority: George Lucas' work, or spiteful Abrams/Johnson fanfiction? This is a complete non-sequitur and doesn't make any sense. You are a retarded subhuman and should kill yourself.>and again, what was stopping anakin frim telling ahsoka about exegol if the plot demands he cant tell luke?Assuming for a moment that the retarded ST plot points aren't retarded fanfiction, let's go back for a moment: what stopped Qui-Gon from simply telling Yoda who the Sith Lord was during Clone Wars and thus saving the Republic and the Jedi from extinction? Retard. It's almost like Force ghosts don't simply reveal all the answers, it's like their role in the story is that of mythological guides, who make the heroes think and learn, and there is a bigger cosmic destiny at play here that you can't prevent. Going by the prequel example, some events are destined to happen and trying to prevent them can only make the matters worse, just like Anakin trying to act on his visions and prevent Padme's death.
>>98525880>So the rest of Star Wars should forever be bound to J.J. Abrams' and Rian Johnson's stupidity?Yes, unfortunately, because to do otherwise would be Disney admitting they were wrong and radfems screaming misogynist at them from here to eternity because 'Muh Force is female, responsibility is a spook, Kathleen was never the problem, racist, sexist, rah-rah-rabble-rabble-roo'Their perfect shield against criticism is now the gilded prison they've made for themselves.
>>98525719Probably they're given some type of training to get them to attack the guys with blue lightsabers over the guys with red lightsabers. Though I suspect getting killed by your own warbeasts was a common occupational hazard for Sith beastmasters. Probably one of the reason they fell out of favor.
>>98521420Anakin did appear to Luke in some novels and comics, but nobody cares about those.
What kind of hot space chicks would you prefer to have on each arm in your ship, Anon?
>>98528327For me, it'd have to be a Pantoran and a Nautolan (the best head-tentacle alien).
>>98528327zygerrian and shistavanen>>98529041the nautolan bounty hunter in survivor was pretty hot
>>98528327Togruta are a must.
>>98528327I'm my perfect Star Wars fantasy, as a human Jedi turned Smuggler Captain, I would have a human wife who is faithful and exclusive with me, and we have 2 kids, but she doesn't mind me messing around with other crewmates. As for my FWB/Crewmates, I would have a female Twilek navigator (who I also have kids with), a femboy Bothan scout, and a Gungan medic, both of whom I take to Pound Town, and a strongman Cathar mechanic, a fat Gungan gunner, and a musclefat Besalisk cargo guy, all of whom take me to Pound Town. My human and human/Twilek kids just run around the ship, they aren't old enough to help out yet. The next time we dock on Tatooine, I'm going to look for a Gamorrean or Shistavanen mercenary as a hired gun, because our gunner got injured in a gunfight that our mechanic started, so we can use the help.
>>98528327I'd go for a Twi'lek and some manner of space elf (likely Sephi since most species of that type are unnamed otherwise).Yeah I know, if it was any more vanilla it would be two humans.
>>98529305Mmmmm, space elves are always good
>>98529270I'm going to rationalize this as a case of "young Jedi leaves the order, discovers sex, and becomes massive slut". Many such cases, unfortunately.
>>98530031Given that force powers are apparently hereditary, this phenomenon would be a necessary part of the perpetuation of the Jedi Order. If ever powerful force-sensitive person became a celibate Jedi, then the ability to use to the force would gradually dwindle in the galaxy. You need a certain number of force-sensitives to be massive whores and spread their genes around to ensure that there's a good recruiting pool for the next generation of Jedi.
>>98530031Remember, George said that Jedi don't have to be celibate. They just can't grow attached. Meaning the temple was likely full of horny padawans engaging in constant casual hookups.
>>98530044Then it sounds like anon needs to stop getting his booty pounded Gungans, Cathars, and Besalisks.
>>98528327Pantoran and Chiss, because I like the colour blue and blue women>But Anon those are just Human’s but with a different skin colour Fine Zygerrian and Neimodian, now get out of my face before you get the .48
>>98528327Right is 1000% superior to left in that image. I read the LNs, so I know it's true. The LNs also start to go to shit after about 10 or so when magic and not!Japanese space empires with super powers that could crush everything show up, and the harem starts getting unsustainably large and unmanageable in screentime.To the question a Twi'lek and an Arkanian Offshoot. Also a Sephi.
>>98530045This is stated outright in a few Legends novels. Padawans hit adolescence and start fooling around, there are a bunch of "hidden places" that every generation thinks they're the first to use when all the older Jedi know about them because they used them back in the day too. As long as feelings don't get hurt to the point of inciting potential dark side shit and things are properly managed, they all grow out of being dumb teenagers.Sometimes Yoda thinks it's funny to interrupt two Padawans getting hot and heavy and then lecturing them loudly in a disappointed voice so everybody nearby can hear. Then cackling at how they run away while being absolutely mortified.Disney novels also have at least one instance where Qui-Gon and another Jedi are on a mission, and the other Jedi decides to just fuck some barmaid or whoever. Qui-Gon gets very disapproving and the other Jedi tells him to lighten up. Though the reason for the disapproval was more because they had other things they needed to be doing at the time than that kind of stress relief.
What are everyone's thoughts on the Revan novel? As someone that really enjoyed both Kotor and Swtor, I'm very unimpressed by how they chained the two storylines together. I'm not a fan of how weak they made Revan and the Exile feel. Darth Nyriss shouldn't have been able to press the Exile so hard, at all. If she could survive Trayus Academy, Nyriss should've been a high difficulty fight at most.
>>98528327You're all a bunch of fucking cowards.Hit me with that Shi'ido sometimes-a-pussy-sometimes-not and be done with it.
>>98528327Zeltron sensor operator and Twi'lek engineer/mechanic getting greasy working on my ship's engine.Copilot will be an Arkanian or Chiss.
What a tremendous shortage. I walked in here and I said “Wow that’s not a lot of interceptors”. The TIE INTERCEPTOR. We love the TIE Interceptor, don’t we folks? Smaller than a tie fighter, a lot of people don’t know that. You know, Darth Vader, big guy strong guy, he came up to me tears rolling down his breathing apparatus. He said “Sir, sir my TIE fighter is like two balls and the rebels just blew the hell out of it” You know the rebels, nasty rebels, they come from Geonosis and they aren’t sending their best. Full of sand Geonosis, it’s coarse and irritating and gets everywhere. SAD. You know, some people say maybe there shouldn’t be so much sand. And we’re looking at that very closely.
>>98528327Guys... Hear me out...
>>98520678>>98520673
>>98528327I'm a broad 6'5 guy, so I want a tall Besalisk lady and a tall Twi'lek lady.
>>98528327>Besalisk lady Speaking of waifus with lots of arms...
/swg/Star Wars Gooning
>>98535398>implying/tg/ - Traditional Gooning.
>>98535451gggood gooning
>>98535398>>98535451>>98535484Where do you guys think we are, anons?
>>98536557>09 Jeez, I feel old. I was 12 at that time, and I still wouldn't find 4chan for another 2 years. I can't believe I become a Wizard this year...
Anyone wanna talk about Kotor2?
>>98537023Haven't played it yet, but what's the ideal modded experience when I do? I hear there was a lot of cut stuff which can be restored, much of which enhances the unfinished basegame.
>>98538561there's the mod that restores the cut planets but a good deal is pretty janky since the stuff is still unfinished despite modders best efforts, I got a save bricked twice on one of the planets who's name I'm now forgetting, had green fields and ancient jedi(?) ruins full of scavengers iirc, if anybody else here knows what I'm talking about
>>98538561> ideal modded experienceKOTOR2 TSL Restored Content mod. It fixes a LOT of bugs and adds back in restored content that actually makes certain companoins' storylines make sense and have decent conclusions.
It's not KotOR, but SWtOR is supposed to have a new expansion on Ryloth. Hope it's cool, has reactivity with Vette, and has cute Twi'lek NPC's.Honestly, it is a shame it won't have the Tidal Locking and Night Side due to retcons in Clone Wars. Still don't understand why they genericized the world. Probably the staffs' fault, I think Lucas would have been down with that element if they sold it to him.
>>98538746This, but avoid the additional mod which restores the droid planet. Far too few things were actually complete so the area design and voice work is amateur and the actual mechanics and quests are terrible
>>98539657Kinda wild that they still keep making content for it. Is this a free updoot or a new dlc?
I'm not usually very interested in space battles, but I'm currently rewatching Independence Day. Have there been any space battles in which the Empire invaded a planet that was drastically behind technologically? With, essentially, planet Earths technology?
>>98541791It's a new expansion with a new version number (8.0), so I'd assume it's paid dlc.
>>98542196Neat. I may actually sub to it for a month then. I told myself I wouldn't bother with SWTOR until they release at least two DLCs worth of story, and I stopped before the manaan dlc
>>98539657It's silly for the homeworld of an extremely populous species have a tiny amount of livable land.
>>98542462They are only populous off world, even post retcon Ryloth's pop was only 1.5 bil because it's still a hostile desert hellscape.
>>98542462Twi'leks are only extremely populous because for most of its history the primary, and only, export of Ryloth has been slaves (eventually they discovered snorting a local mineral gets you high, so now the number one export is drugs, with slaves as a close second). Female Twi'leks have been shipped off-world to serve as concubines and strippers in vast numbers for thousand of years, leading to them being spread across the galaxy.
>>98536669We accept you! One of us!Gooble gobble! Gooble gobble!Now roll to see if you develop a new fetish.
>>98544872Not him, but fuck it. Rollan.
>>98544938Shit, did they remove the roll feature? Or does it just not work from mobile?
Rolled 13 (1d20)>>98544938
Rolled 1 (1d20)>>98544938
>>98544950I figured out the problem was the phone auto-capitalizing the dice command and 4chins isn't coded well enough to recognize it in capital.And fuck. What's my fetish?Pls not feet.
>>98544955Oh, you get feet alright. But this is the Star Wars thread, so you don't get regular feet. You get big, floppy, alien furry girl feet.
>>98544984Oh no.Noooo....yeeeeesss
>>98545002Damn thing ate me image.
Rolled 20 (1d20)>>98544872Well, fuck it, there's no way I'll roll a 1. My fetishes are already pretty set.
>>98545632Does... this mean I can get rid of a fetish?
>>98545641Seems right to me.Tangentially related to your image: where did storytime anon get his comics from? I kinda wanna track down the Knights of the Old Republic comics and read 'em.
>>98545817Since the government killed Readcomicsonline (and an entire archive of out of print things that nobody was even selling or stocking any more, too) you probably have to try digging up old torrents of the series. I keep it on old .cbr files from a decade ago myself.
>>98545898Oh shit, they did? I'm more surprised there weren't 300 mirrors. Damn, I used to read the comics to research and get ref images of obscure planets and stuff for my SW d6 game.I find it hard to believe there aren't other sites that have the Kotor run uploaded though.
how does WYSIWYG work with the customizable leaders? Are people gonna wag fingers if I give my guy dual knives instead of whatever I put in my list
>>98546243You shouldn't get much trouble but it depends on where you play and how autistic the people you play with are.The only place I've heard of people getting anal about these is at huge (as in over 60 players) AM-sponsored tournaments.
>>98518890>32 Oz.Anon, what the fuck?
>>98531451>Nyriss and the ExileI mean, Revan and the Exile are powerful, in the turn based D20 universe. If you take them and put them in a WoW-esque universe, their power levels don't come close. Revan won the exchange against Nyriss because she popped her buffs and channeled a high tier Lightning force power, and Revan just had a stronger Reflect force power. Even in MMO terms, The Exile and Scourge probably lowered her HP down enough to get her to ult. All Revan had to do was pull out his tank reflect.
>>98542431I wouldn't bother, pretty much every expansion since the Eternal Crusade bollocks has been the same - maybe two hours of actual story gameplay stretched out into an interminable grind by yet another complete refresh of the gearing system that requires you to do a shitton of the expansion's dailies and weeklies to update your gear enough to run the missions. Just watch a no-talking let's play if you want to know the plot.
>>98547089That's what I've been doing, YouTube has a Jedi Knight run through on Gamer's Playground that I watched for most of the expansions.
The two medium turbolasers on the Venator seem like such an afterthought. I know it's a carrier but why just two turrets? That can't be enough to meaningfully contribute at that size of ship
Which Era do you prefer anons, galactic civil war or Old Republic?im more partial to the pulpy stories of rag tag rebels in a mostly jedi-less era compared to the lightsaber omnipresence of the old republic
>>98547554Warlords era. You have GCW, still relatively few Jedi, but still a decently strong Empire.
>>98547554I'm a sucker for plentiful lightsabers and the Force, so Old Republic.
>>98547703I don't know much about the Warlords era (just checked the stub on the Wiki) what's so cool about it?
>>98547554In recent years i've kind of come to the realization that my actual interest in Star Wars begins and ends with the Empire, and I don't really gaf about jedi and sith outside that context.
fun box to buildmade me mad that the generic infantry all have their helmets split down the middle if you want to swap for the nite owl faces, wish they were like the male leader's helmet where the dome was 75% with the split at the rim on the back, hate having to gapfill every single helmet on my infantry lmao
>>98547554I like it all(except the Shitsney Verse garbage), but I agree with >>98547703 that Warlords is kind of a sweet spot especially if you want to run a game for a group that includes both GCWfags and Jedifags.>>98548244 it's essentially the period following the OT in the EU. The Rebels are transitioning into the New Republic but face challenges maintaining and expanding their coalition. Luke is beginning his quest to re-establish the Jedi Order but still hasn't fully nailed down his philosophy yet. The Empire has fragmented with the "official" Remnant actually starting out as one of the weaker looking factions, the rest all ruled by powerful self-appointed Warlords who mostly were bigshots in the old regime but can occasionally just be Captain Brutal McCivvymurder who shot his boss and took command of a sector through force of personality or access to some fragment of superweapon tech or the like. You basically get to have your cake and eat it - you can have situations that feel very much like the GCW with plucky rebs facing down a resurgent Imperial faction, or you can have Rogue Squadron-type units doing spook black ops shit to take down the enemy, or you can have some minor Imp getting shat on by a big Republic push. There's loads of politicking and intrigue on all sides, there are independent powers like the Hutts and Hapan that are trying to manipulate the chaos for their own ends, and with the combination of Luke's quest and the lack of a coherent centralised Empire determined to wipe out force users they can't control, you can have a few Jedi who aren't OT main characters.
>>98548453Cool builds but damn these mold lines look rough especially on the male mando, more visible than on the recent stuff I bought. But that might just be the lighting.I heard AMG went through a new supplier for these sprues.Still these kits look good, when I get my hands on it I'll try to kitbash one of them to point the EE-3 carbine in the right hand and knife in the left hand on the dude and dual-wield swords on the girl. It still amuses me a bit to see the EE-3 carbine become a standard issue mando weapon because of Boba.
>>98548542Was a lot of cleanup especially on the jetpacksand the plastic is softer than other model lines I'm used to so did gouge more than I meant in some spots but not the worst kits I've had to clean up by farworst was easily dude's shield hand, has a sprue gate right on two fingers
>>98508502TCW was so insanely retarded, Yoda literally meets Sidious a week before RotS on Korriban and can't put the pieces together. The clones were ordered by Dooku, the big Sith Lord looks suspiciously like Palpatine and he's already hoarding power to where the Jedi are suspicious, and they can't fucking put 2 and 2 together and figure it out. This is what happens when the villains are just a bunch of clowns.>>98521420Cause Filoni fucking hates Luke. He uses Anakin as a puppet to prop up his OCs but he hates the OT cast and especially the men. Filoni was behind making Leia the grandmaster because he genuinely holds massive contempt for Luke as a character, probably because Luke will forever be more popular than his shit characters and unlike Anakin he can't be used constantly to push his bullshit fanfic.>>98547554Lucas period. Everything from slightly before TPM to slightly after RotJ. Old Republic is fun but eventually just turns into a copy of the GCW with more Force users. Post-Endor starts out cool with Thrawn and Zsinj I suppose but eventually devolves into Dark Empire and Vong nonsense, and let's not even talk about Legacy which is utter dogshit.The only bad part is that the GCW period is contaminated by a lot of EUslop which makes it worse, like all the shitty Marvel comics, early novel details that make no sense and D6 and the games having such dominance over the lore as opposed to the actual dictionaries and official guide books. I like games but they ought not to be fully canon, just portray real events in a gamified way.
>>98548814schizoid ramblings
>>98547494>I know it's a carrier but why just two turrets?Keep in mind, there's also a ton of non-turreted light turbolasers mounted in internal gun decks along the Venator's side trench. We see them in both Ep.3 and the Clone Wars show, but for unknown reasons, they never get included in the official statements of the weapons loadout.
>>98548814The best part of Dark Empire was when Zahn in Thrawn Duology absolutely dabbed on it with Mara shrugging and saying "yeah, I still don't believe that the reborn Emperor was actually him".
>>98548814>EUslopYou will never not be mocked here, antiEUanon. This here's a thread for EUchads, deal with it.
>>98551666Retard, I'm not anti-EU. If I was, I wouldn't talk about Zsinj nor would I personally love most of the CWMMP.But I acknowledge a lot of the Bantam-era stuff is genuinely fucking retarded and set the stage for all the stupid bullshit that came after. It's clear that nobody got what the films were styled around and Star Wars became little more than idiotic Flash Gordon parodies. I mean for fucks sake, muh dark greetings and Triclops and Isard being Cruella De Vil and Daala being mega evil and all that bullshit. Or Luke falling in love with the ghost of a Jedi inside a computer, Veers' family getting purged for no reason at all, shit like that. Not even getting into all the retardation in D6, from Mon Cala being able to straight up prevent Imperial invasion through mining their lanes with interdiction mines to all the random fucking planets that make no sense to all the Imperial departments that are more focused on shooting each other on the back than doing their jobs (I know this list is very Imperial-centric but they got raped the most during this era, compare the Lucas Empire to any of these).The EU improved a lot after people watched the Prequels and understood what Star Wars is about thematically. Most of the Bantam-era and slightly following media ought to be either reworked or straight up removed to get much better media in line (of course, that isn't always a guarantee as seen with TFU, but it happens far more often).
>>98548814>Dark Empire and Vong nonsense, and let's not even talk about Legacy which is utter dogshit.Were those Star Wars comics at least fun reads? Been meaning to read those but sadly I can't find a comic viewing site because the main one I think got taken down.I'm not sure what site has replaced the main one for reading all the Star Wars comics, but I want to download all the EU comics and hopefully have them ordered chronologically. I think Old Republic may have been one of the best timelines because in a weird way if my memory serves it was set so far in the past that most of what goes on doesn't really matter. It could have been its own Star Wars timeline if I'm being honest.But also I love those animated cinematics too. It is a bit weird to me that Disney hasn't funded a full CGI Star Wars film. Yet some vidya get a fully animated movie made to promote them. Resident Evil Vendetta's gunfights will never not be dumb fun funny scenes to me. I think the CGI allowed for more "acrobatic sword fights" and being CGI it allowed for the audience to just roll with what was being shown in a way that live action probably never will capture.
>>98551677I said Veers' family, meant to say Needa'sThough Veers does also get fucked in the ass just for existing cause Veitch just loves to make characters suffer for no fucking reason whatsoever (not gonna get into all the insane dumbassery that happens in DE)
>>98551684>It could have been its own Star Wars timeline if I'm being honest.I thought I typed continuity or universe. I haven't had my morning coffee.
>>98548814>This is what happens when the villains are just a bunch of clownsThey were already clowns in Lucas prequels.Filoni is a personification of the Peter principle. TCW was good for what it was: A TV series for older children. He singlehandlely saved the characterization of several characters from Lucas movies, and nicely depicted a galaxy wide war in many fronts.But he's totally the wrong guy for live action stuff. He has the wrong sensibilities for that, on top of being too attached to his pet characters like Ahshoka that should died at the end of the war.Sadly, at the time Lucasfilm was a headless chicken and he was the closest thing to a "winner" they had. Personally I miss the 2003 Clone Wars series. It was a cartoon, but it was on point.>EUslop The EU had lots of shit, but also lots of good content. The Republic and Empire Dark Horse comics were great.The Traviss Mandoverse shit was not.>such dominance over the lore as opposed to the actual dictionaries and official guide books.These only existed because of the initial work done by the WEG D6 TTRPG authors. And if you knew your shit, the official guides had issues too. Remember the Curtis Saxton debacle? I do.
>>98551697>They were already clowns in Lucas prequels.No, none of the Siths were clowns, specifically Palpatine was a mastermind in them. Only the fake villains who were always meant to be the patsies, like the Nemoidians, are portrayed as clueless idiots.>He singlehandlely saved the characterization of several characters from Lucas moviesWrong. He ruined the characterization. See Anakin going from a conflicted teenager, which was an interesting plot point delved into in the MMP, to him being jocky Han Solo. Or Obi-Wan going from the stern serious Jedi who somewhat broke his code to let Anakin be somewhat happy to a quippy, sassy asshole with no regards for anything.>Personally I miss the 2003 Clone Wars series. It was a cartoon, but it was on point.Genndywars WAS kino. Obviously stylized and shouldn't be taken as is (Mace can't destroy a whole droid army with his bare hands, duh), but it got a lot of things right. More than Filoni ever did.>The EU had lots of shit, but also lots of good contentCorrect.>These only existed because of the initial work done by the WEG D6 TTRPG authors. And if you knew your shit, the official guides had issues too. I'm aware. The issue is that D6 1. is a game system, meaning a lot of things are naturally compromised for gameplay purposes, and 2. has a shit ton of early EU issues. Just because they were based on it doesn't mean it needs to remain. I believe D6 ought to just be thrown entirely and replaced with more refined data.>Remember the Curtis Saxton debacle? I do.I'm not a fan of everything Saxton has ever said or done, I hate all the SD.net autismos and the retards there with a passion, but despite Saxton's moronic takes like Endor Holocaust or 900km DSII, he DID do some things right. Like giving ships more than 72 fucking starfighters and treating TIEs as a counterpart in naval philosophy rather than being just bad cause Empire cheap dumb. Wish much of that could be adapted to the GCW without the baggage involved.
>>98551677D6 was great and more consistent than all the other SW material by a mile.> all the random fucking planets that make no sensewtf are you talking about> all the Imperial departments that are more focused on shooting each other on the back than doing their jobsYeah, that never happened in Lucas movies, right? lol, fucking Imperialfag>The EU improved a lot after people watched the Prequels and understood what Star Wars is about thematically.Wrong, it turned to 11 the moronic fixation on Jedis and over the top family drama over the space war in the future side. Thank god that we finally got Rogue One and Andor to remind people of what was the original Star Wars really about.
>>98551684>Were those Star Wars comics at least fun reads?When I was a kid, I convinced myself they were. And yes, at the time they were incredible popular and well-received, fitting perfectly with the late 80s, early 90s edginess that infested comic books in the post Dark Knight Returns age. And even post Episode 2, there were fan polls that considered it the best Star Wars story post-Return of the Jedi. And being an edgy kid at the time, I probably would have agreed with them.But re-reading them as an adult, the writing is pretty fucking awful.Not quite "somehow Palpatine returned" level, but really not very far off. And even while George Lucas praised the art, he always hated the idea of Palpatine cloning himself and afterwards insisted on having a say in the approval of manuscripts and notes for the later EU. It's unclear exactly how much of a hand he had in it, but he was at least sent manuscripts to look over. And before you ask, yes, he was pretty furious at Rise of Skywalker for pulling the same stupid bullshit.One time I fully agree with George.
>>98551728Er, I'm talking the Dark Empire comics, specifically. If that wasn't clear.
>>98551715>D6 was great and more consistent than all the other SW material by a mile.KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK>wtf are you talking aboutRetard just have a look through the Planets of the Galaxy sourcebooks. Some of them are fucking wild nonsense.>Yeah, that never happened in Lucas movies, right? No, it really didn't. In fact, the Empire is notably far more competent in the films than it ever was in the EU. EU saw Ozzel, a SINGLE incompetent Imperial who was quickly dealt with to show how ruthless Vader is, and made him the bog standard. Even Zsinj's first appearance was just a cartoonish Ozzel copycat but fatter and dumber. In the films, the Empire loses because of their arrogance and underestimation, but in a logical way, like how the Brits would underestimate their local tribes and get fucked for that. They didn't just fail at basic shit.>Wrong, it turned to 11 the moronic fixation on Jedis and over the top family drama over the space war in the future sideWow, a genuine retard.>Rogue One and Andor Understandable a cretin like you would be an Andorfag. Andor is not Star Wars, it's a shoddy geneirc cyberpunk show with a barebones Star Wars skin that tries to pass off as the saga and fails. Gilroy has straight up said the show is antisupernatural which goes against the MAIN FUCKING POINT OF THE SAGA, the Force. The show also once again makes the Empire blatantly evil and retarded, the stylization is awful and everything in general is subpar. Only someone with contempt for peak Star Wars would think D6 and fucking Cuckdor surpass Prequel-era media.
>>98551737You will never be anything but pathetic how hard you try to shit on Andor just because it's objectively better than any of your prequel tripe.It's exactly what Star Wars is and that you can't accept that is entirely a (you) and your autism problem.
>>98551713>none of the Siths were clownsPalpatine WAS a clown in ROTS. Lucas made him into a grinning spinning fat ass idiot that lost all dignity, just like Yoda in AOTC>See Anakin going from a conflicted teenagerCome on. Anakin was a fucking shit character in the movies. Instead of a tragedy, we got a bratty entitled whiny teenager. He was saved by the 2003 CW, the Darkhorse comics, and Filoni later.> I believe D6 ought to just be thrown entirely and replaced with more refined data.If you mean the stats, okay. It's just an older source and some things were changed later. The stats also are designed for the players to easily defeat enemy basic goons.But it's still the best SW TTRPG ever made unless you're into making the Force like DBZ power levels.>Like giving ships more than 72 fucking starfightersThe D6 guys got right the purpose of ISDs, while Saxton was a disingenous dipshit playing semantics with the "destroyer" denomination.They weren't dedicated space fighter carriers or space WW2 destroyers, but flying military occupation bases with a fighter complement. 72 TIEs + all the extra spacecraft made perfect sense once you realize all the other stuff that needs to fit inside. And the big huge empty spaces typical of SW tech for whatever reason.> treating TIEs as a counterpart in naval philosophy rather than being just bad cause Empire cheap dumb.Explaining why TIEs were mass produced and had no hyperdrive as part of Imperial politics was first done by WEG in the Imperial Sourcebook.
>>98551748Keep seething, coon. Blandor has pretty much been forgotten, relegated to be even less remembered than Book of Boba Fag lmao. And Rogue One is about as beloved as Solo.Most SW fans nowadays adore the Prequels and couldn't tell you what happens in any of that slop. But hey, maybe they'll become heckin' classics in a decade or two, just like the Sequels. Kek
>>98551770The only one seething here is (you) with how hard you try to deny reality.It'd be sad if I gave a modicum of a shit about your mental health.
>>98551769>Palpatine WAS a clown in ROTS. Lucas made him into a grinning spinning fat ass idiot that lost all dignity, just like Yoda in AOTCStupid. Yoda was cool in AotC and RotS, we got to see his fighting prowess while also seeing his wisdom. Palpatine was a mastermind, in RotS, he manipulated everyone and got what he wanted, and beat Yoda fair and square. The only caviat is him losing to Mace which I chalk up to him throwing the fight for Anakin (otherwise it does make his plan too flimsy)>Anakin was a fucking shit character in the movies. Instead of a tragedy, we got a bratty entitled whiny teenagerThat WAS part of the tragedy. Anakin being a bratty teen was interesting, we got to see how his slavitude affected his maturity, his view on life, how the Jedi's lack of care and conflicts between his vow and love drove him further to the Dark. Republic and Genndywars DID follow up on this gloriously. TCW didn't, TCW Anakin is a flat Chad character except when they need him to have a Vader tease moment with the Imperial March blaring.>But it's still the best SW TTRPG ever made unless you're into making the Force like DBZ power levels.Ehh... I can kinda agree on that. At the same time I don't like a lot of D6's worldbuilding. I think it could be a very good base but needs reworks.>Saxton was a disingenous dipshit playing semantics with the "destroyer" denomination.I don't think the whole destroyer stuff really mattered with him. It was later Saxtonites like Fractalsponge that blew the Imperial Navy way up in scope.>flying military occupation bases with a fighter complementWrong. They ARE warships, they were designed for the Reconquest of the Rim and follow the same logic as the Venator or Victory. They aren't just bases of operation.>72 TIEs + all the extra spacecraft made perfect sense Not really, that's game stuff for balance>TIEs were mass produced and had no hyperdrive D6 ruined TIEs, they started the dumb Empire trend. Mass produced is a bad excuse.
>>98551737>>98551770>Most SW fans nowadays adore the PrequelsThey were shit and people laught at them for how badly executed they were. They're only remembered because RedLetter Media, Filoni and the Prequel Memes subreddit, lmao.You're delusional. Rogue One + Andor were a return to the side of the OT forgotten by decades of childish Forcefaggotry, but that was too a core part of SW: the war movie side, the common man risking everthing against tyranny side.>the SequelsI think we can all agree nobody will miss those, except for the 2010s danger hair retards that unironically defend TLJ
>>98551796>They're only remembered because RedLetter Media, Filoni and the Prequel Memes subredditThis shit is bad bait. RLM has gotten memed on for a decade straight now for how dogshit their review of the Prequels were, full of some of the dumbest critiques imaginable. Muh "Prequel characters are too heckin' complex to describe in a single sentence", "We're so fucking stupid we don't know who the protagonists of the films are", etc. The only thing they got right was admitting they were insanely biased because they wanted more 80s nostalgia slop and they thought the fucking Gremlins were peak cinema kek.Filoni has been disgraced and TCW has lost a lot of power after his subsequent failures in every show he's made under Disney. And most people I've seen love the Prequels have no fucking interest in Reddit, dumbass.>Rogue One + Andor were a return to the side of the OT forgotten by decades of childish Forcefaggotry, but that was too a core part of SW: the war movie side, the common man risking everthing against tyranny side.Star Wars was NEVER about "muh common man". It was always a return to form about the traditional heroes, forces of nature born to save the world. It's like old serials or fairy tales. From the very first film, Luke is the son of one of the greatest Jedi, Leia is princess of a very important planet, Han and Chewie are some of the greatest pilots in the galaxy, and the Rebellion would be fucked without them. The following films add to it more and more. The saga is about the Skywalkers inherently, has been since the start. Luke isn't the common man, he's the great hero who is able to save the common man. In fact, people like you tend to invent insanely stupid retcons which Lucas never intended, like the Rian Johnson-supported "theory" that anybody can have the Force if they heckin' believe enough.
>>98551813>"Prequel characters are too heckin' complex to describe in a single sentence"You're too stupid to even grasp that their point was that prequel characters weren't characters but plot devices just shows you don't know dick and can shut the fuck up for all eternity. >Filoni has been disgraced and TCW has lost a lot of power Utterly delusional. Beyond the pale. I'm done. I pity you. Too pathetic to ever accept how little you know.Maybe when you turn 18 you'll mature.
>>98551795>Yoda was cool in AotC and RotS, we got to see his fighting prowessWe saw Kermit the frog jumping around screaming like an idiot. Both him and Palpatine didn't need any of that to be portrayed as dangeous and powerful in the OT. They lost all dignity and composture.I was there at the cinema when the movies were released, and people were laughting at them both times. > Anakin being a bratty teen was interestingNo, it was annoying and you wanted to smack him like the little punk bitch he was. You're probably mixing his actual AOTC scenes with those from the 2003 and Filoni CW that saved his characterization.>I don't think the whole destroyer stuff really mattered with himHe involved with the SD.net crew and their stupid feud with trekkies from the start. He purposelly exaggerated all related to SW tech and ships so his buddies could own the trekkies.Fractalsponge came way later and he was just a gaydy and tasteless groupie with a 40k ork mindset of bigger ships and bigger guns.> They ARE warships, they were designed for the Reconquest of the Rim and follow the same logic as the Venator or Victory. They aren't just bases of operation.Being a warship was a side of them. Their main purpose was Imperial occupation, hence "Star Destroyer".The Victory was the early iteration of that, but the Venator was more of fleet carrier.>Not really, that's game stuff for balanceWas it? IIRC there weren't rules for fighting with wings of fighters in the game. It was background fluff that needed to be aligned with what we saw in the movies. 72 TIEs were probably even too generous if you think about Endor.>D6 ruined TIEsNah. The stats were weak because they were flying stormtroopers to be killed by the players, but their fluff wasn't nothing like that.
>>98551813>RLM has gotten memed on for a decade straight now for how dogshit their review of the Prequels wereWrong. They were not always fair, and their humor was cringe 2000s edgy shit, but they were on point about all the major issues with the Prequels.>most people I've seen love the Prequels have no fucking interest in RedditDelusional. Reddit memes is pretty much the only reason you still see Prequel references in social media.I get it, you were a stupid kid and those were your first SW movies, so you can't help yourself with your nostalgiafaggotry.>Star Wars was NEVER about "muh common man"Yes it was. It was also about people rising to the challenge. Han and Chewie were just 2 low life criminals. The rebel pilots and soldiers dying were just normal people. That was forgotten by the Prequels and the focus on forcefaggotry bullshit.> invent insanely stupid retcons which Lucas never intended, like the Rian Johnson-supported "theory" that anybody can have the Force if they heckin' believe enough.That wasn't a Rian Johnson thing. It was him trying to peddle as a novelty and SJW shit something that was canon since fucking ESB. Lucas was an idiot that muddled the waters with the retarded Midiclorians shit, but the Force is in all living beings and can be used by anybody if trained enough with the right mindset. Anakin and later Luke were a special case freaks because they were the result of the Force doing a great cosmic balance adjustment or some such Dune messianic shit.
>>98551874>muddled the waters with the retarded Midiclorians shit>"The Force is strong IN MY FAMILY">family>as in, a bloodline
>>98551737>once again makes the Empire blatantly evilThey're literally called "the evil empire" in multiple sources, they're led by a literal evil space-wizard, and in the first film alone they murder Luke's adoptive family and blow up an entire planet.The Empire is objectively evil and was clearly intended by the films' narrative to be evil. Doesn't mean they don't have cool uniforms, and in pretty much every SW game where you can play the Empire I will because their aesthetics are so much better than the Rebels', but I'm getting really sick of all the nazi-sympathizers insisting the Empire wuz good boys who did nothing wrong.
>>98551748andor is dogshit for faggots who hate star wars
>>98551677>retardation in D6See, it's this bit that makes me know you ARE anti-EU and are just performing all this "muh reasonable" bullshit to disguise the fact. There are parts of the EU that are shit, of course there are, nobody disputes that, but nobody sane or arguing in good faith believes the D6 RPG that is literally the EU's foundation is one of them. Only people who want to shit on the EU as a whole shit on WEG, period.Oh, wait sorry, I stopped reading at the retarded bit and didn't notice the even more retarded bit where you go mask off and pretend the Prequels fixed things, lol, lmao, you fucking clown.
The Empire did nothing wrong.
>>98553023Point to Alderaan on a map.
>>98551813>Star Wars was NEVER about "muh common man".Ok.
>>98553670>posts the chosen one
>>98553989>all I see is a farm boy from BFE
>Hayden Christensen won the Anakin part>but he beat Leo Di'Caprio>Christian Bale>Paul Walker>Heath Ledger I never knew we could've had such crazy actors portraying Anakin. Maybe it's because I grew up with him, but I think Hayden was the best choice. While it's possible being Anakin would've changed Paul or Heath's life trajectory and they'd still be alive today, I think the only actor that would've put in the same amount of energy in the lightsaber dueling stunts would've been Bale, and he would probably hate being Anakin as much as Ford hates being Han. Interesting how it could've turned out.
>>98553340>Point to Alderaan on a map.It's hard not to, really.
>>98556395Hayden was the best choiceStar wars having big recognizable actors is a bad thing, having smaller names and one or two big names like christopher lee and sam jackson is how to do it
>>98556695>/me coughs some Alderaan
>>98551813>Star Wars was NEVER about "muh common man".Best character in the franchise is just some some mid-level criminal. No fruity superpowers or hecking laser sword. Just a gun, a ship, and charisma. He wasn't "born to save the world", dude just needed some fucking cash to pay off his debts and got dragged into a whole lot of bullshit. It's almost comical how fucking lame every other character is compared to Han Solo.
>>98563117Retard, Han Solo is explicitly one of the most elite criminals in the galaxy. Dude drives around one of the strongest ships (for its size) in canon, has Chewbacca as lifelong friend who canonically kis the son of one of the most important Wookiee leaders, is part of a secret Wookiee guild with secret hyperspace routes that allow the duo to go through the galaxy unnoticed and is super strong and one of the fiecest Wookiee hunters, Han also is probably the third best pilot in Star Wars after Anakin and Luke (fourth if you count expanded media where Palpatine is also a crack pilot) making him on par with Force users, he did the Kessel Run in record time and talks to Jabba directly which only elite bounty hunters and his staff can do AND eventually becomes on of the highest ranking New Republic officials.Saying Han is just a common man/nobody is incredibly retarded. The common man is someone like Uncle Owen.
>>98563324Most of that is later EU writers hyping him up in a early version what we would now call power level wanking. In the OT Han was just some random smuggler who got dragged into the fight between the Rebellion and the Empire against his will and ended up joining the Rebels and becoming a hero. While the Falcon is clearly meant to be a fast ship, Han's talk about it being literally the fastest ship in the galaxy and the whole thing with the Kessel Run was not meant to be taken literally, but him bragging to make an impression on (what he thought were) the random farm-boy and old man in order to justify the why they should pay him to get them off the planet. The original script literally has Obi-Wan rolling his eyes at the Kessel Run bit, since he knows Han is making shit up (parsecs are a unit of distance, not time, so Han's line doesn't really make sense. Sure, it was later established that the Kessel Run goes through a cluster of black holes, and the more shorter route you take the closer you have to fly to the black holes, but that was EU writers not wanting to admit what a character might be saying may not always be the literal truth).
>>98563786>Most of that is later EU writers hyping him up in a early version what we would now call power level wankingThat applies more to someone like Wedge than it does to Han.>Han was just some random smuggler who got dragged into the fight No he wasn't. He was being personally hunted down by Jabba for losing an extremely valuable piece of cargo. He got Boba Fett, most dangerous bounty hunter in the galaxy, to go hunt him down for Jabba and the Empire. He has a ton of achievements that aren't "normal".>Han's talk about it being literally the fastest ship in the galaxy and the whole thing with the Kessel Run was not meant to be taken literally>original script literally has Obi-Wan rolling his eyes at the Kessel Run bit, since he knows Han is making shit up (parsecs are a unit of distance, not time, so Han's line doesn't really make sense)Except it was. We know this for two reasons:1. ESB proves that Han is indeed an amazing pilot and far better than most others with the Asteroid Field chase. The only other non-Force users we know who are able to go through asteroid fields are the Fetts, who are constantly noted to be extremely skilled pilots and mercenaries in any media including Lucasfilm media.2. Parsecs was a Lucas mistake, not an intentional plot point. ANH has a bunch of these, like how Lucas wrote in "a thousand generations" for the Jedi Order in his fourth draft after keeping a thousand years for a few previous drafts, thinking it meant the same thing. When it turned out it didn't, he retconned it fully in Attack of the Clones, establishing the Republic is indeed a thousand years old.3. The only time I've seen the Kessel Run claim be questioned is in the annotated screenplays, and that may be a case where maybe at the very most it WAS meant to be fake when ANH released, but was retconned into Han actually having those skills by the time you get into ESB and the asteroid field. Either that or the book just made a mistake.
>>98508954New Visions season?
>>98556395>but I think Hayden was the best choice.Certainly not, not with Lucas directing (which never involved talking with actors about their performance).
I don't hate Acolyte so far. I'm surprised people hated it so much, but I can't tell if people have genuine opinions any more with how brain-rotted culture war shit has become.
>>98565163THE POWER OF ONETHE POWER OF TWOTHE POWER OF MANYlmao.>>98564994Yeah, but it's a Ninth Jedi series this time.
>>98563324>"elite criminal"Han seems genuinely relieved to have struck a deal with Obi-Wan for 17k credits, telling Chewie "this could really save my neck." Luke states that 10k is enough to "almost buy their own ship". This means that the "elite criminal" is on the run because of debt roughly equivalent to the price of a ship you can buy in space Tijuana (Luke wouldn't have a reference point for anything else). Han is a mid-level drug runner in the OT, at best.
I missed out on the Legion customizable mandalorian box and I am mildly sad. That's all.
>>98566749It'll be in stock again soon enough, even the army box came back despite being a fomo bundle
>>98566010Adding onto this, the guy Jabba sent after Han specifically was Mr Maclunkey. Sir The Fett only got hired to get post Death-Star Luke, with Han as an optional bonus objective.Bit of a quality difference all things considered.
>>98565163It's just another mediocre franchise installment that got overblown by everybody. I didn't feel like I wasted my time watching it (mainly because of episode 5) but I wouldn't have paid for it.
>>98565163It wasn't good, but it wasn't the franchise-breaker some doomposters tried to make it out to be.I genuinely liked the wuxia-inspired fight choreography. But the story had some bewilderingly bad choices and the acting from some would have been bad for a community college.
Haven't been here in a few months or so, I see that EU tranny is still sperging out and shits out his inane obnoxious schizo ramblings all over the thread. Nothing's changed, eh. Except this general is deader than it's ever been. Well deserved, desu. God, Star Wars "fans" are despicable subhumans.
>>98505457>live near toronto>3 months ago think about going to fan expo since 2018>cool celebs but nothing really Star Wars related which is my fav>don't pay attention until today>mark hamil was announced on the 21st>all deals to meet him and have him sign things are sold out>they were 1k startingI would pay 1000 for sure just to meet him and take a picture and tell him what an influence he was on my life, but they announced it too late and I don't feel like going
Nice contribution, queer.Anyway, I'm reposting the Mandalmotors Venator, because I think Venators and Mandalorians are cool.
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Watched mandolin and grog from a 3rd party source, were we just supposed to ignore the fact the new republic just blasted a palace on nal hutta and killed like 20 hutts in the process
>>98568976>Watched mandolin and grogWhy did you did that?
>>98568423The vestigal empire wants capital ships. Who do you think you are, Austria-Hungary?
>>98564147>HAN>Fast ship? You've never heard of the Millennium Falcon?>BEN>Should I have?>HAN>It's the ship that made the Kessel run in less than twelve parsecs!>Ben reacts to Solo's stupid attempt to impress them with obvious misinformation.>stupid attempt to impress>obvious misinformation>https://imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Wars-A-New-Hope.htmlScript as of 1976.
>>98569066>Who do you think you are, Austria-Hungary?Not that Anon but I feel like the Austria-Hungary of people, pointless, drunk on schnapps and ready to implode in a bitter civil war at a moments notice, might fight a Italian in the mountains later as well.
>>98566808Yeah, it’s Vader/Imperial Slush Fund credits that hire Boba, not Jabba.
>>98568976I dunno. As other anons have pointed out, post ST Star Wars has been having a hard time deciding how to handle the ST. Maybe they're setting up some kind of NR vs. Hutt hyperwar which better explains why there's no force ready to resist the First Order at the start of TFA? Maybe there is no plan and everything's just governed by rule of cool, meaning it is all meaningless and will be ignored the moment it becomes inconvenient for the next guy in the chair's vision?
Anyone looking forward to Zero Company?
>>98574255Yes.>turn-based tactics Star Wars gameLiterally made for me. I'll try to make my Legion Rebel Officer in the game as a Heavy/Whatever fits best.I hope it gets cool mods like giving more widespread access to the special classes.
>>98574255I went and bought it a few hours ago, so it could be preloaded when I am done with work. Apparently this makes me eligible for the preorder bonus even though I only got it about 24 hours early? I guess I'll see what happens on launch. >>98574309We'll see but I think that uniform might end up being a paid cosmetic since it's a game about mercs. I know they have it, but I may have seen it in regards to the deluxe ed. which comes with a bunch of paid cosmetics.
So I was playing jedi outcast, and I was reminiscing about the first time i played. It struck me that i really want to recreate that sense of 'wonder'(?) that i experienced playing through luke's academy for the first time but for tabletop. Would you guys have any ideas on how to introduce that for a game? I know having the players do simple puzzles like that would be boring, so it might have to be more of an rp kind of session?>>98574255Kinda, though I can't actually play it.
>>98574555Come up with similar "escape room" puzzles, with enough verbal descriptors so that your players can reason their way out of the room.
I know Disney will probably never detail the Sith Enpire and Lucas had a totally different vision of it (at different stages) compared to what Legends did.So I have mostly forgotten they are and tried to mash them all together with my own ideas.The Sith ranks:Acolyte - Sufficient BeliefThe cogs who believe in the Sith creed even if they might not have any force sensitivity and command the administration. They might rule an out of the way planet. Constantly jockeying for preeminence and hoping to be chosen as Apprentices or wield power behind the throne.Apprentice - Sufficient Force SensitivityThese are people chosen to become new Sith. There is usually only one Apprentice at a time, but graduates form a patronage network as they train their own. Murder between apprentices or their masters are common and unremarkable. They possess an ambiguous rank below their master’s own.Knight of the Sith - Sufficient Combat TrainingThose Sith who dedicate their lives to combat and war. They command the Massassi legions and lead warfleets. The frequently are younger Sith, trying to carve out a territory for themselves or their master. Most Sith are recruited to be Knights and die as them.Lord of the Sith - Sufficient SkillThese are any Sith who has survived the gauntlet. The default rank of a planetary ruler or specialist in some hideous science. They usually command a patronage network of lesser Sith and corespondents.Sith Master - Sufficient RespectThe rulers of many planets, the constantly victorious or the philosophers pushing the boundaries of destiny are acknowledged across the rival states as a Master.Emperor of the Sith - Sufficient AuthorityAmong the Masters, any one but only one, can seize Morriband, homeworld of the Massassi and usually the capital is empty of an Emperor. If they can force obedience by strength or charisma, they wield a galactic power against anyone they choose. Building even grander monuments to memorise themselves.
The Massassi are the name of the red-skinned species Legends called the Sith. With many being mutated into the hulking fighting force that were Legends Massassi.
I need opinions: Should a Scoundrel who finds a Ancient Jedi/Sith artifact be able to temporarily use the force when wearing it? Said Scoundrel isn't Force Sensitive, and isn't possessed by the artifact, or and entity living inside said artifact. Should my DM allow it?
>>98574309You should post minis more often, anon :)
>>98575769What does the artifact do?
>>98576494It's an amulet (Scoundrel) took as a reward when party completed a quest for a Rodian Warlord. He put it on and tried to use the Force, and rolled a 20 before DM could tell us anything about it. They got into an argument that took up the last 10 minutes of our night, so we never found out what it does. He wanted to be able to use the Force now, and the DM said he needs to wait for him to ask him to roll the dice. He doesn't wanna honor the 20. We meet again next Wednesday night.
>>98576666Which system is this? If you can't use the force you can't use the force, but maybe the scoundrel accidentally activated the artifact
>>98576681I believe it's Saga?
>>98576753I mean it sounds like the scoundrel player is retarded and just wants to fuck around. In SAGA force abilities are a hefty XP investment, shouldn't get them for free unless that's what the artifact does
>>98576666>acquire ancient amulet with some kind of Force power>put it on and try to use it without even knowing what it isHe's lucky he didn't get possessed.
Lads, some years (pre covid) since I came there for the last time, what has been good for the SWG since then? Has armada actually survived? Any cool ships, any cool game/setting book?
>>98576968Legion is doing pretty well, it got a new edition like a year agoX-wing and armada are dead, though they do have fan support.
>>98576968>>98577044XWM kina live on through fan support in shape of X-Wing Alliancehttps://www.xwing.life/
>>98576968Star Wars Legion is the only tabletop game that still survives. Xwing and Armada are both dead, and being FFG games have no substance to stand on their own
>>98577147Shatterpoint is already dead?
>>98577118>https://www.xwing.life/>>98577044Drats, I liked Xwing actually, too expensive for the ships, but nice game. >>98577147Fug I only like the Spaceship part.Has any of the nu extended universe produced any cool ship?
>evil cult leader in the new X-com knockoff recruits minions for brainwashing by pointing out that they're being exploited by the rich and by the increasingly corrupt RepublicWhat did Disney mean by this?
>>98573803>which better explains why there's no force ready to resist the First Order at the start of TFA?https://youtu.be/NfybOFeNyzE
Does anyone have the letter some admiral wrote about being tasked with piloting some fuckhuge ship that takes days to travel?
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>>98578229Reminds me of darktide, desu
>>98578229CIS did nothing wrong, Republic/democracy is a sham, all hail the Empire
its genuinely great.play zero company
>>98576886Yeah, best case scenario I'd expect him to now be haunted by the spirit of some ancient Sith Lord who keeps pestering him about destroying the Jedi. Worst case, you get Rakghoul'd.
>>98568976It wasn't even necessary at that point, Mandy and Gluppy had it all covered. Plus I suppose the Republic wanted to send Hutts a message
>>98581893Seems like a good way to make art of your tabletop character if you're not playing something unique.
>>98575769If he’s not force sensitive, then he’s gotta ask the amulet for everything he wants, verbally. The amulet also communicates to him exclusively telepathically, but refuses to read his mind, so he looks like a complete nerd begging this haunted bauble to do magic for him.Reading his mind would be impolite.It also provides telepathic ethical criticism and it has ancient and outdated morals that are difficult for the modern wearer to guess.
>People have been begging for a Thrawn movie for decades>Despite being rebooted out of existance, he's brought back in 6 pretty good books>The book storyline gets thrown out so he can be the main villain in a monster-of-the-week style kids show where they beat him every week.>He gets moved to live-action, but it's the same shit as the kids show.I'm surprised this doesn't get brought up more
>>98581893Finally met a game my gtx 1060 can't run. Can do Jedi Survivor at High-Ultra. Can't even do Medium-High here.
>>98584289/swg/ mostly ignores Disney, you want a discussion on that, try /co/, see if their Star Wars general is up
>>98584461Is it because it's shittily optimized? I'll bet it's because it's shittily optimized.
>>98584289It comes up, but mostly in seething over Filoni generally, or Thrawn's depiction in Rebels/Ahsoka in particular.
>>98584461I mean, that's a discount model graphics card from 10 years ago. Are you really surprised that you're stuck on medium settings when playing a new release game?
>>98585207Since it's a turn based strategy... slightly?I'm more surprised it's lasted this long, but it runs games I would have assumed to be more intensive well enough. Maybe after optimization patches things will change apparently people with more modern cards are sometimes com-plaining about performance.
>>98585325It's at a 3.5 rating on Steam because of people complaining about poor performance, so it's presumably either got some serious optimization deficits or GPU driver compatibility problems.Maybe give it a week or two to see if they release a patch to fix whatever's fucky about he current version.
I know this is more of a /toy/ complaint, but >thinking of starting a tabletop group with my friends (EotE or F&D)>was going to set up my collectibles around the room for atmosphere >blasters, holocrons, masks, lightsabers, model ships>prop Thermal Detonator drops a couple days ago>I had no idea, I would've bought 3 >sold out everywhere Fuck...
/swg/ which of these two ships do you prefer?I'm torn. On the one hand, the engine is behind the pilot for the Actis which I think has a better "feel" than the Aethersprite (where the cockpit kind of hangs off the back and is getting "dragged along" with the rest of the starfighter), but the stubby design of the Actis (it really looks like a rocket with a cockpit on the front and wings strapped to it) lacks the overall smooth grace and arrowhead line design of the Aethersprite.Apparently the Actis somehow has 60kg of storage somewhere too, while the Aethersprite has 0. Which is funny.
>>98586128Everybody loves the good ol' Outer Rim Freedom Ball.
>>98586261Of course the Zero Company Collectors edition has the cool color for it. I can't justify $300 a pop though.
>>98586177For me, it'd be the Actis. The Aethersprite is cool, but I like the window in the front of the cockpit on the Actis just a little more than I like the arrowhead shape of the Aethersprite.
>>98586177I'm not a shipfag so I pick spaceships purely on aesthetics and I think the jedi fighter on the left looks better and more star wars-y
>>98531070Which novels are these?
>>98581893Osama was Saudi.
>>98586177>Apparently the Actis somehow has 60kg of storage somewhere too, while the Aethersprite has 0. Which is funny.Madness! Obi-wan empties the storage on his Aethersprite in the movie!
>>98588135yeah ok
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>>98586403kekYeah, no. The 'giving money to Disney' era is over until they actually retcon the sequels.And make a starfighter series set in the GCW.
>>98588859>inb4 Queen El'liz'ah'beth has the brake lines on her landspeeder cut
>>98588859>someone far less elegantDianafags STILL seething.
>>98585325>>98585339I've got a 4080 and even dropping down to High settings on 1440p it chugged every couple of minutes during battles, I had to enable Balanced DLSS to get it running smoothly(still barely above 60 fps).But since it's a strategy game I can live with that, especially since I didn't pay for it.
>>98590829You seem to be mistaking "vomiting uncontrollably at the sight of the heinous horse-faced cunt King Baldy inexplicably decided to legitimise" with "seething". A common affliction of Royalist poofters, but one easily cured with a guillotine.
>>98585339>it's presumably either got some serious optimization deficits or GPU driver compatibility problemsSeems like literally every game released these days has memory leaks, poor optimization, bloated HD space general wastefulness in graphics coding. Are programmers all just shit now? I remember older games where they had to eke out absolutely every last drop of efficiency from the system. Now it's like nobody knows how to code, "just spend $1500 on an extra top of the line GPU lol".
>>98581893The sweetbaby inc character creator pissed me off but other than that pretty cool
>>98590858Plenty of technical catastrophes in those days alongside the near-magically efficient ones. I'd wager the problem is more that stuff gets pushed out before it's ready on the understanding that "oh, we can just patch it", which is, of course, not done.
>>98590872AgreedThe character creator had me worried, but thw game is otherwise shockingly unwoke
