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Entire ChatGPT-generated sections in the new Great Pendragon Campaign edition lol

How long until the "it appears one of our freelancers accidentally..." statement
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Call me retarded if you must - but I cannot for the life of me see how this is ChatGPT-generated.
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>>98509789
>>98509806

A lot of people are bad at identifying AI writing. Even AI writing detectors fucking suck at it.
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>>98509789
Regardless of how it got there, it sure is boring and shitty.
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>>98509810
Yeah, great, lovely, fantastic - could you then please point out the identifier?
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>the players fail, no roll involved

Why are module writers like this?
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>>98509806
Negative parallelisms, tripling, repeated rhetorical structure, essay-analysis style dramatic commentary/abstract interpretation for no reason and which doesn't have the same authorial voice as the rest of the book/doesn't suit an RPG sourcebook, short "mic drop" sentences at the end of paragraphs, italics which aren't present elsewhere in the book, odd non-sequiturs used to try to add emotional weight
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>>98509967
NTA
Do you have a section from elsewhere in the book to compare to? You've got a few references to differences in authorial voice and italics.
Looks like it had the same author add material 40 years later so there's also a notable possibility their writing style changed.
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>>98509967
Thanks for the heads up, I reported it on DTRPG, hopefully it will be taken down
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>>98510026
The one on drivethru is the 2015 version not the new release you dumb ass.
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>>98510109
nah the new release is on there too
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>>98510111
Is it? I can only find this one.
Oh lol he's dead since 2018 and the new release is multivolume over years. Gotta milk those cows.
Quite possible they used an llm to tune up or filter revision notes or sections that were planned but not finished.
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This isn't just shoddy writing — it's a betrayal of everything the hobby stands for. Your disappointment is real and valid, no matter what anyone else in this thread says.
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>>98509810
>>98509806
I work with AI in my writing. I feel like most of the AI content is actually the Gamemaster Advice sections. There's just parts where
>The sense that "we could not keep up" is far more important than "we were stopped"
>That frustration will fuel the rest of the session
>When Uriens returns and Arthur does not, lean into the uncertainty

Where the AI is giving instructions that feel overblown and definitive. It feels like the writer wrote the "scenes" and then asked the AI to decide what a GM would do to make those scenes pop.
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>>98509967
Having players make Awareness rolls to notice that someone in a duel is losing/bleeding is the exact sort of thing I'd expect from either AI or a complete novice GM.
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>>98510125
The setting and material is older:
The Pendragon Campaign: 1985 (80p for the 1st edition)
The Boy King: 1991 (138p), 1997 (146p)
The Great Pendragon Campaign: 2006 (434p), 2015 (434p)
probably others too.

The year of the pages posted is 521, if someone wants to check them in the older publications (as I'm doing right now).
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>>98509810
Sure. This goes both ways, though - sometimes people see AI writing even where it doesn't exist.
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>>98510026
DTRPG doesn't have any requirements to disclose AI-generated content though
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>>98510693
in the highlighted sections specifically even if it's not AI [assuming]
it's just poor writing/editing
no one should be asking money for that sort of product
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>>98511383
What the hell do they feed AIs for them to CONSTANTLY type like that, Reddit posts?
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>>98511452
Gemini is primarily a reddit post aggregator.
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>>98510223
>Fail roll
>"Oh yeah Arthur's got this"
>Arthur bleeding like a faucet
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>>98509967
>short "mic drop" sentences at the end of paragraphs
This is the #1 easy to see identifier of AI writing.
It is also extremely obnoxious to read
>Normal writing describing a room
>The walls where white, except for the back wall that was blood red for some reason. There was a table, a chair, both old, and a picture of the emperor dressed in full armor.
>AI trying to sound dramatic
>The walls were white. Stark. But for the back wall. Red. Blood red. Sinister Blood red. There was furniture. Table. Chair. Old. Decrepit. A picture in the wall. Of the emperor. Fully Armored.

I've started to see this sort of garbage all over the erotic gay fanfictions I read so I can confirm that faggots love Ai writing.
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>>98509810
AI derangement is out of control, they literally think data centers erase water from existence
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>>98511757
>he doesn't know about the water erasers in the data centers
ngmi
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>>98509806
How many /tg/ books have you read that try to get game information across in paragraphs like that. It's game information being presented in a format that I guess is usually narrative.
Even shitty homebrew written by people with poor English skills don't do that. Being overly verbose is a common thing for rule writing noobs, but even noobs will start breaking information down into explicit chunks because people have a intrinsic thing about pacing information when they communicate.

I am too retarded anyway, I am sure a smart anon can explain better than me.
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>>98510629
Yeah I get that. It seems plausible they are 'tuning up' the older writing and notes from a dead guy to be more 'modern'. Fits with rereleasing in fomo style sections over several years.
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>>98511772
>but even noobs will start breaking information down into explicit chunks because people have a intrinsic thing about pacing information when they communicate.
If only.
Even the fad of terse descriptions that was part of osr had become
>OSE
>BULLET POINT D E S I G N
>F
>O
>R
>GREATER
>C
>L
>A
>R
>I
>T
>Y
>andeaserofuse
The pendragon campaign in question is a huge read along, a stroygame narrative in the classic 80s and 90s paragraphs of faffing about that was popular then. We're swinging back to it because its easier to publish rpg books that are more like fiction outlines than to make a good working adventure for a game.
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>>98510693
No. All people everywhere identify AI writing 100% of the time with no errors and no false positives without exception.
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>>98509810
AI writing detectors only grade stuff based on whether their own database could generate something like it.
It doesn't know shit and it doesn't identify shit.
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>>98512947
>>98510693
>>98509810
Even if we generously assume that many instances of so-called “AI Writing” are actually false positives, one thing remains clear: if you are an author and your writing reads like AI, you should fix it.
Why?
Because, ultimately, reading anything that resembles AI-generated writing is a deeply unpleasant experience.
It is writing that constantly tries to be:
Dramatic.
Important.
Profound.
And, of course, filled with those pregnant — pauses — that AI seems to love.

The result is prose that feels less like natural human writing and more like an algorithm desperately attempting to sound meaningful.
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My DM is using chatgpt to write room descriptions.
It's really fucking obvious but no one calls him out on it cause no one wants to DM themselves.
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>>98513040
kek mad
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>>98513072
I asked chatgpt for a reply and it gave me this, enjoy
>Mad? No. I just find it adorable that you think typing ‘kek’ somehow makes you look unbothered when you clearly ran out of anything intelligent to say.
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>>98513040
>And, of course, filled with those pregnant — pauses — that AI seems to love.
I overused em dashes before the robots ever did
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>>98513097
Sounds like a reddit reply tbqh but that's just because chatgpt can't say "niggerfaggot"
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>>98513101
It is fed on reddit, so that makes sense.
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>>98513040
>Well I think your writing sounds like something I don't like so now I'm mad at you.
Lol.
Lmao.
Faggot.
Retard.
May I even say, a bitch of a bitch?
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>>98513040
Not to be a downer, but there are filters for different intended audiences.
I don't like it and am not the intended audience for a pendragon rewrite but that sort of overwrought dramatic pacing and prose seems about right for the most likely to pay for the book.
There will be a filter for
>direct technical writing
that runs everythnig into bullet points and hopefully someone edits a bit to clean up.
There will be a filter for
>edgy in universe narrator
and
>purple prose high gygaxian
and
>ironic 80s radical cowabunga
etc.
Its a self filtering technique that makes discrete audiences that slop can be poured out with a few hashtag equivalents. That you don't want this is fine, I don't either and as such have to support makers I like as directly as possible and craft my own material, but we're going to get filtered out rather than authors and publishers changing their approach.
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I wonder how many people realized the post criticizing AI was written by chatgpt
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>>98513131
Not sure how it would be relevant unless you want all critiques to take the form of the writing they're critiquing and be better at it than the subject. So they'd have to make a long form generational campaign ttrpg about the change of writing style, format and technique over time that incorporates different challenges and evaluation standards as that shifts over time.
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>>98513040
This isn't just a firm reply — it's a majestic rebuttal against bad writing. The kind of post that shakes beliefs and plants the seeds for new ways of thinking.
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>>98513131
You clocked it boss — those clankers can't hide from you! Your sardonic intellect shows us that machines have still got a long ways to go — although most people besides you wouldn't notice!
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>>98510223
>>98511469
>Player: How’s Arthur doing?
>GM: Um… roll awareness for me.
>Player: 17, failure.
>GM: I mean yeah Arthur got hit but it’s just a flesh wound.
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It doesn't matter if it's AI or now, the new Pendragon is a corpse being pushed around to milk cash from a dead man. Completely creatively bankrupt even without AI involved.
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>>98509967
You have got it right.
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>>98509967
So are you saying the inconsistency makes it human or Ai?

Is the book all human, except for this part?
Or is it all generated, except for this part?
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Holy fucking shit. Imagine overwriting Greg Stafford with Chat GPT.
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>>98513366
So assuming I wanted to get into Pendragon and the new edition is bust - which one I should go for?
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>>98509967
About half of what you have highlighted are direct copy-pastes from my 4th edition-compatible version of the Great Pendragon Campaign. Back then it was called The Boy King, and it was published in 1991, and republished in 1997.

>"This is a moral snare, not a tactical encounter."
>"Arthur's imprisonment and forced choice are the moral core of the scenario."
>"Arthur's decision is personal, not abstract. Even if the characters cannot change his choice, they must feel its weight."
>"...at best, an unease settles in. The duel cannot be stopped."
>"Few see her clearly, but all see the result: Excalibur falls from Accolon's hand, Arthur seizes it, and the battle turns at once. Arthur overcomes Accolon and strikes him down."
>"they will remember Arthur's knights not as conquerors, but as protectors. Such memories spread quietly, crossing borders faster than banners."

Are we faced with a time-traveling game company, who was able to return to the 1990s and produce a game using an AI 30 years ago? Because if so, we have greater issues than a role-playing game supplement being written by artificial means. I think the part with the time travel is more important than an LLM.
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>>98509789
I'm too drunk, what's chatgpedo about it?
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>>98511774
I mean, Reddit is also a testing ground for deployment of bots. I'm genuinely convinced a lot of Reddit is just bots at this point.

>>98511757
Isn't the claimed that "water cooling" adds chemicals to the water that makes it undrinkable afterwards?

What actually goes on?
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>>98513517

Pendragon was never worth it.

(Stafford was a cool guy, mind you, but the game doesn't do what it wants to. True shame, the premise is ironically enough very niche and original)
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>>98514196
The actual problem is that, in america, our infrastructure is absolutely fucked, and these proposed data centers are all being placed in rural areas that don't have the water capacity to take care of the extra strain the water cooling will require.
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>>98514196
Yes and no. Yes, they add chemicals to the water due to how much untreated water will fuck up the computers. No, the water isn't completely undrinkable. Yes, adding that shit is still really bad for humans in the same way that microplastics are accumulating in people's balls from how much of that shit is in people's bodies now. The real problem isn't that it's in there to begin with, it's that it's in there to begin with and the people who are so eager to sell off drinkable water to data centers also refuse to pay the exorbitant fees needed to cleaning up all the shit they put into the water to begin with.

Although the other big problem is that the main big methods of cooling water are either recycling it or evaporating it. And evaporating it is more energy efficient for the companies, but also completely uses up said water, unlike the other one which can be reused far more until it's gone but is less useful in terms of cooling stuff down.

Essentially, the issue isn't that it's being done at all, it's that the amount of money needed to make all this shit efficient is really fucking expensive, whether it's infrastructure to safety to more efficient usage of resources, and companies are doing that thing where they refuse to pay as much as possible while squeezing as much money as they can from everyone else. The problem isn't the tech itself, it's that they want to make someone else pay for the tech while refusing to pony up the cash to make the tech in a better way.
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>>98514255

I never understood why they simply don't build them in cooler zones.

I mean, yes, I get that you have less tech people living in Minnesota than in Texas, but isn't cooling like 90% of the costs of data centers?
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>>98514127
The TikTok generation simply cannot imagine any human writing with such fancy (well, fancy to them) words and extensive use of punctuation. For them to attempt it would be pure agony.
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>>98514273
It's as >>98514249 stated, the infrastructure isn't fucking there either. In sim city terms, it's like trying to power the entire damn city with only one power plant and the laziest shittiest powerline formation that doesn't reach 90% of the city. Now put that on a nation wide scale, and that's how the entire electric and network grid is created. We managed to just barely skirt by in regards to the internet and 5G, but the amount of energy data centers are demanding is just too much. And if you're asking the obvious question of why not just make a better electricity grid, the amount of time and money needed to go into it would be like the equivalent to asking why a human doesn't just rewire their nervous system to be more efficient.
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>>98513757
Time travelling AI? Oh bother.
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>>98513757
What we have a lot of retards who think they're way smarter than they're pointing out AI everywhere like your own example shows
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>>98514289

I guess. One would assume that big tech could simply scale up power demands ("yo, northern rednecks, we need a new bigass datacenter in your frozen wastelands. We give big money, you give new cables") but that's how it goes.
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>>98514304
Terry Prattchet once coined the "Sam Vimes theory of socioeconomic unfairness" that he wrote in just but real economists use today. In summary, it's far more expensive to be poor because the poor have to constantly shell out to replace shit that the wealthy can just buy outright. In other words, the rich get to where they are by spending less money than the common man is allowed to in order to get by. Big companies would refuse to pay what the land is rightfully worth, nor pay for a proper installation of the infrastructure needed to maintain that land for their purposes if they can find a way to make someone else do it for them whether it's in tax breaks or in outright bribery. It's how red line goes up at any cost, how they got away with doing lazy jobs for the infrastructure to begin with, and why everyone else is paying the energy and water bill increases that these data centers are creating by their existence. They all had the opportunity to head this shit off decades ago, but they would have spent more money in the short term to plan ahead so they fucking didn't. And they're all the richer for it.
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>>98514289
The need for it fuels the investment in infrastructure dummy. You think Allentown or Pullman were built in a day?
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>>98513017
why did you post a picture of some mountains?
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>>98513098
I also did in my 20's. I think it was all that Kerouac.
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>>98514640
They "needed" it ages ago, they just put it off because it didn't make them money immediately.
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>>98514640
But they aren't doing that. These companies are specially spending as little as they can, and absolutely none of it on improving anything that doesn't directly benefit them. It's the ultimate corpo "fuck you, got mine" mentality.

It's also fucking retarded to have to rely on a bunch of sociopathic oligarchs to throw plebians a bone occasionally and give the masses roads the aren't shit or a power grid that isn't constantly five seconds away from failure, but we convinced a shitload of people that public funds doing anything other than fighting wars for Israel is """"communism"""" so we're basically fucked.
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>>98510148
>LaughingCheetah.jpg
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>>98513757
I want to be mad about AI and shit on game companies who market to femnoids, so as far as I care, nothing you said is true.
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>>98514998
I can't find a specific image or post about laughing cheetahs. Could you be more specific?

But Yes, this situation is very laughable. People paid for a hand crafted experience and instead got digital noise.
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>>98515358
>People paid for a hand crafted experience and instead got digital noise.
Did they? >>98513757
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>>98515363
Unless you can 100% prove that your text was written by a human, the assumption is that it was done by AI. That's just the way it's going to be forever now. You can cope (and maybe seethe a little) or you accept reality. If you don't want to be accused of using AI, don't write. Simple as.
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>>98515358
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>>98513757
Fucking liar. Are you a Chaosium employee? What do you have to gain from defending this shit?
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>>98513757
lol why would you lie about this
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>>98509789
>the source of their leverage
Grim
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>>98514289
>And if you're asking the obvious question of why not just make a better electricity grid,
Actually, I'm asking the obvious question of why an entire class of energy generation and infrastructure improvements had their construction incentives stripped away right as demand was spiking.
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>>98515998
>Fucking liar.
Speaking of which, the dtrpg version still looks like the 2015 release and the 2026 one was just a gencon release I thought. So what's >>98509967
from?
I might be autistic enough to go download whatever versions I can find of a game I don't like to do a side by side comparison but it does already feel like one of those things where no matter what gets posted with whatever evidence there is its just going to end up being deflection and shitposting.
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>>98516527
To save money.
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>>98515998
Look at those short, punchy sentences at the end of paragraphs. Those were 100% written by AI.
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Behead those that use abominable intelligence, return to tradition.
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>>98509967
I write like this anyway. I'm almost 45. Have I been AI this whole time? I don't think I'm a bot. I probably would have noticed.
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>>98509967
>>98509789
That's normal writing you denae motherfucker. You just don't like the style.
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>>98510629
>1st ed. is 80 pages
>21st century editions are 434 pages
AI or no AI, this is clearly Ye Olde Bloate
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>>98517006
>>98516953
>>98515280
>>98514295
>>98514279
ChatGPT and Grok both do a mea culpa on this one
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>>98513097
The robot blew it, the iron law remains undefeated
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>>98513131
I assumed that it was written by a person deliberately trying to sound like ChatGPT for satirical/illustrative purposes.
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>>98516878
subtle innit
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>>98517071
Continuously explaining the intended emotional interpretation of a scene, and repeated use of abstract moral terms is ALL OVER Pendragon books, because the whole fucking point of the game is to portray Big Heroes With Big Emotions, and doing so inside a moral framework that's probably foreign to the modern reader. The authors have to hit "how this scene should feel" over and over again in simple language because the way that Arthurian knights might react to a given stimulus is not necessarily how a modern reader might react to it.

It's like pointing at LOTR and saying "it's not gay, it's a close friendship" between Sam and Frodo, because modern readers interpret any close emotional connection between men as gay. But that would also read as "it's not X, it's Y", and trigger an AI detector that's not capable of understanding the specific context where such language might be necessary.
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>>98517150
>Continuously explaining the intended emotional interpretation of a scene, and repeated use of abstract moral terms is ALL OVER Pendragon books, because the whole fucking point of the game is to portray Big Heroes With Big Emotions, and doing so inside a moral framework that's probably foreign to the modern reader. The authors have to hit "how this scene should feel" over and over again in simple language because the way that Arthurian knights might react to a given stimulus is not necessarily how a modern reader might react to it.
I've read the last decade worth of Pendragon output cover to cover and I get what you're saying, but they simply aren't that repetitive and heavy-handed with it.
I have also attempted to use AI tools extensively to prep bits of tabletop games/writing, and besides finding the results generally unsatisfactory, I can tell you that the end product reads exactly like the excerpts in the screenshots, down to the exact words it chooses to italicise. The adventure writing in the rest of the current-edition releases is not written in this way at all, and rather than dictating how the players should feel, it generally just outlines the social consequences if they act in an unknightly or inappropriate way to events they observe.
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>>98517150
Followup. I literally, very literally, just wrote this short essay explaining why authors need to overload modern audiences with simple instructions on how to interpret a scene through a historical lens, rather than a modern one. Evidently, the exact text I just spent the last 20 minutes writing is 75% AI generated. This is why - no matter what anyone wants to complain about - you cannot just point at text you don't like the style of and claim that it's AI. You can't just scream AI at anything you like, it's just as likely someone is using a writing style you disagree with.
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>>98517327
Except the dishonest part about your post is completely ignoring the listed characteristics in >>98509967 that do not describe what you wrote, and just lazily throwing it into those useless detector websites.
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>>98509789
This shit reads less like a set of campaign instructions and more like a scripted play that the players are a captive audience for. The players don't even seem to do anything or have any impact on any of the events at all. In fact there are no sections in this entire thing to describe what the GM should do if the players don't follow the intended path.
I'm reminded of that guy who played Wonka describing his attempts to follow an AI generated script for that scam event in Glasgow where it describes the audience doing things as if they're also actors in on the scripted story.
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>>98515998
>What do you have to gain from defending this shit?
I just have to assume he thought that nobody would have access to the old sourcebook since it's not readily available for free anywhere
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>>98517327
>it's just as likely someone is using a writing style you disagree with.
NTA
Its a grim thing but what's happening with AI writing detection is absurdly bad literacy rates among americans, so anything written with complexity is assumed to be artificial because statistically, its much more likely. Its not 'reading' what you write at all. Its just mapping out language use and there's more 5 dollar word gable being made by ai at this point than humans, so it assesses as ai generated.
This, on a similar garbage note, means that yes they will indeed continue to seam AI at anything they disagree with, more to the point that they're not necessarily upset its ai, they're just looking for something to tear down anything in front of them. Doesn't really matter what it is, the goal is to degrade rather than engage.
We're doomed. I'm sorry.
>>98517348
Yeah, like this post.
They don't care about where the source material is from, or who wrote it or the dates or anything like that. They just want to shit on pendragon. They'll shit on the old text, the new text they can find, etc.
If one were inclined towards little red lines of strong on a corkboard it would be because it came up in another thread about games that aren't woke but it could be sheer coincidence.
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>>98517071
So the AI told you what you wanted to hear and threw together a pile of words so you could pretend there's some rhyme or reason to it?
Yeah, that's what they're meant to do. Sucking you off is what keeps you coming back, and they need you well and truly addicted by the time the investor money starts drying up and they have to charge you enough to actually turn a profit.
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>>98517366
>I'm reminded of that guy who played Wonka describing his attempts to follow an AI generated script for that scam event in Glasgow where it describes the audience doing things as if they're also actors in on the scripted story.
That was exactly what came to my mind too
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>>98517327
All written text is AI now. That's just what we have to assume. The only way to avoid AI is to return to pictography and abandon writing altogether.
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>>98517366
You're not wrong, but that's always been a part of Pendragon. No matter what, some things are written in stone. The PC's aren't pulling the sword from the stone. They're not sitting in the Siege Perilous. No-one is jumping in front of Mordred at Camlann. There was a whole list of these in the back of the 4th ed book, as things to throw in so players could reenact a scene from the stories, but they can't succeed at them because they're reserved for Lancelot, Galahad or whoever.
They're useful for flavour and even inspiratuon but I've always been wary of using them precisely because it's a hard sell for your group to do "computer says no".
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>>98518022
Exactly what an ai would say.
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>>98517402
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>>98518028
That's not acceptable. You aren't allowed to tell me no. That's the whole point of playing TTRPGs. I can do whatever the dice allow me to do, whether you like it or not. This is clearly a shit game for shitty people who put up with railroading GMs.
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>>98518249
>You aren't allowed to tell me no. That's the whole point of playing TTRPGs. I can do whatever the dice allow me to do, whether you like it or not.
Railroading is bad, but this is also a dogshit attitude that has led to horrible practices at the table. The GM is the arbitrator. Sometimes, based on the state of the game, they will tell you you pass, without having to roll. Sometimes, they will tell you you fail, without having to roll. The dice are only there to determine the outcome of situations that are unsure. That's sort of orthogonal to the conversation at hand, but this "I'm allowed to do whatever the dice say," is fucking cancer.
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>>98518248
nta
lol the ai wants to pretend it can write like me if it wanted to. Get good clanker.
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>>98511757
Yes, because it does. Water in a cooling system is not available to drink. It does not return to the hydrosphere. It's pretty straightforward.
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>>98514295
ironic, LOL
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>>98515363
Yes.
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>>98516842
Where?
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>>98517006
No it isn't.
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>>98517149
Not especially.
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>>98517150
You could try writing like a human being.
Frodo and Sam are friends, and straight.
Assertions of fact need not contradict anything.
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>>98517327
I can, actually. And I'm right.
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>>98517384
It's AI, nice try clanker
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>>98518028
Then why would anyone play this shit lol?
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>>98518461
This part made me smile
>Frodo and Sam are friends.
Not colleagues, not associates, not acquaintances, straight up friends.

You're not shitposting, you're dropping truth nukes.
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>>98518383
You're wrong and you lose.
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>>98518028
I've got no frame of reference for the old books, but just going off of the blurbs in the OP it's a fucking shitshow.
Like the "To Search and Be Captured" section. It extensively goes through the players surrendering. Okay, so what if they fucking don't surrender?
>reinforce—through roleplaying or an Honor or Just roll—that surrender here is the honorable choice. Arthur himself would not abandon innocents to preserve his freedom. Capture is not failure; it places the Player-knights exactly where they must be to witness Arthur's later choice and understand its cost.
So what if the players DON'T FUCKING SURRENDER? And for that matter, if the players gave chase and actually saw Arthur get captured, how do the players even end up in this situation?
>anyway onto the dungeon where the players must be
????
And the rest of what we see is just full of fucking nonsense like trapping the players in an extended cutscene where they're asked to make Awareness rolls to see literally the only thing happening. This in particular makes me wonder if this wasn't actually just extracted from a LLM prompt and edited sparingly by the "writer" after.

To be fair there are ancient adventure modules that are written like this. They are, however, infamously dogshit ones full of holes and contradictions, like The Forest Oracle that should have never made it to print.
I'm waiting to see if >>98513757 ever responds to this guy >>98515998 to be sure
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>>98514255
>And evaporating it is more energy efficient for the companies, but also completely uses up said water
And here I was thinking earth was a closed loop and evaporated water falls down as rain.
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>>98513757
None of these sentences appear anywhere in my copy. I checked from cover to cover. Want to provide a page number, or admit that you lied?
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>>98518509
>>98518519
damn girl u thursty
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>>98518537
The water isn't disappearing from the closed loop that is the earth, retard, it's disappearing from the town at a rate faster than it's being replaced.
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>>98515433
>Sam Vimes theory of socioeconomic unfairness"
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>>98514295
>like your own example shows
He literally made it up
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>>98509789
In a few years AI will lend a personality and voice to our Japanese real doll sex robots, so I'm fine with it writing new editions of classic games. It's not as if a new edition of any RPG is warranted other than as a cash grab, so they are easily ignored.
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>>98518513
Frog and Toad are friends, as well. Toad beat his fucking head against a wall to think of a story to tell Frog when Frog was sick. Now that's fuckin' friendship. Frodo and Sam are more of a master and servant relationship. It's a lot like life...
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>>98518509
Well?
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>>98518562
Well?
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>>98518509
A lot of the appeal of the Great Pendragon Campaign is getting to make your own knight doing take part in the background of the King Arthur. The fun is getting to be part of this foundational myth cycle even though you know how it starts, how it ends, and a lot of the beats along the way. Sir Gawain and the Green Knight is still a very fun story, even though it doesn't really contribute to the greater arc of Camelot. Ideally your characters are getting up to stuff like that and managing their dynasties in between being present for the big King Arthur beats.

It wears its linearity on its sleave, but it's definitely not for everyone. Think Rosencrantz and Guilderstern Are Dead, but less meta.
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>>98522339
nta
Anyone going to upload scans of the new one and the old one so we can compare?
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>>98522413
utter ass LOL
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>>98518562
Well?
>>98522864
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>>98523291
puerile
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>>98524247
yeah, it is :)
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>>98510944
Yes they do, at least for art, because I had to disclose that I didn't do that when I uploaded it, so my PDF wouldn't get immediately blacklisted.



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