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So, this dude is just a stone thrower for Beasts? His WS and BS seem awful, am I missing something important?
>>98512147He’s a hybrid stone thrower monster but kinda shit at either.
>>98512166Similar to the Arachnarok, but less cool?
>>98512174Similar, but less cool and better than the arachnarok but still not good
>>98512196The Arachnarok is the epitome of awesome. Maybe if they let Bray Shamans use a Cygor as a mount?
>>98512206They should juice him up and make him really really really lethal against ethereal and magic users. I know he gets bonuses but he should be a rapist of those units. Still wouldn't be meta but would give him a solid niche that's lore friendly.
>>98512147>So, this dude is just a stone thrower for Beasts?Yeah
>>98512118>TQSudenland, since it's never really been fleshed out outside of one WFRP book from frist edition
>>98512209I would be ok with that. I have both a Ghorgon and Cygor and I just want to happily run them and terrorize squishy wizards and infantry.>>98512214Guess I will work on mine to add some range to my Beasts next.
>>98510867Finished up my beastmen baggage train. What do you guys think? Bit of an image dump incoming since I want to show it off since I worked hard on it.What is the latest model(s) you've 100% finished for your army?
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>>98512280lovely
>>98512288>omw to corrupt your waystone>get bent knife ears
>>98512280Bonus; my initial sketch/plan for designing the baggage train to see if it would be any good with the models and bits I had on hand.
How does this sound as a Battle March list? 750 points of Orc goodness. Not sure if it will be strong, but I love my Boys and want to use them. Sadly my BSB lacks a cool magic standard, but points are tight.Orc & Goblin Tribes [749 pts]>Orc Bigboss, Cavalry spear, Heavy armour, Shield, Battle Standard Bearer, War Boar - 103>Orc Warboss, Great weapon, Heavy armour, Shield, General, On foot, Talisman of Protection, Ruby Ring of Ruin - 184>17 Orc Mob, Additional hand weapons, Light armour, Shields, Full Command - 136>17 Orc Mob, Warbows, Light armour, Shields, Full Command - 119>17 Orc Mob, Warbows, Light armour, Shields, Full Command - 119>4 Orc Boar Boy Mob, Cavalry spears, Heavy armour, Shields, Big 'Uns, Boss (champion) - 88
>>98512280>>98512282>>98512286>>98512288>>98512292>>98512297Absolute love it, another bit of great work as expected from you, Beastbro!
>>98512280>>98512282>>98512286>>98512288>>98512292>>98512297Absolutely kino anon. Good job.
>>98512280>>98512282>>98512286Kickass anon
>>98512292its kino, but I cant help but wonder who could/would do the act of putting a chain on a chaos spawn and live
>>98512340Probably Ungors or turnskins, if nothing else a few gors with a besti/wargor/shaman breathing down their neck.
>>98512302Find a way to squeeze in 1 more boar boy
>>98512363I will see what I can make work, thank you.
I just want to play humble little scenarios like a band of Goblins are about to attack a village in Ostermark, so the local lord has to get the local militia to hold on until reinforcements can arrive.which edition of WHFB is for me?
Best faction to use old Kislev minis for Battle March? Renegade Crowns maybe?>infantry with bows and great weapons>mounted archers>regular mounted knights but they're not a problem
>>98512384Any really, but if you pick up 7e and various expansion pdfs for 6th and 7th then you'll skirmish (simpler Mordheim for wfb armies), warbands (up to 500 points a bit like battle march with special rules and limits), and general compendium.
>>985123843rd edition
>>98512395empirethe infantry with great weapons and bows would be greatswords with an attached regiment of archersmounted archers count as pistolers insteadthe bear can use the demigryph statline
>>98512415>the infantry with great weapons and bows would be greatswords with an attached regiment of archersAnon, just stop please.
>>98512384>>98512410I think ideally you want some skirmish mini game and not an edition. If you want an edition TOW is probably best because it has giving ground instead of a straight break or hold for combat. Older editions without skirmish subrules might be too swingy for enjoyable games because of that.
>>98512395>Best faction to represent a human nation not currently represented by rules on the tabletop?>The faction designed to represent human nations without specific rules on the tabletop maybe?Boy I fucking wonder.
>>98512434You won't find a unit with both great weapons and ranged weapons.
>>98512479I see, then I guess I'll have to treat the axes as hand weapons and just make them archers.
>>98512460Ok, I'll run them as dorfs.
>>98512302Looks decent man.
>>98512384>Goblins are about to attack a village in Ostermark, so the local lord has to get the local militia to hold on until reinforcements can arriveUnironically TOW Battle March, the generals companion has a bunch of scenarios and your village attack scenario is one of them, with a historical battle example that involves greenskins attacking vs empire defending. It provides rules, victory points, win conditions, etc, so you're pretty much set.
>>98512413This.
>>98512413>>98512589What is 3rd and 4th even like? I started in 6th. I have read that 5th was a like 6th but balanced for herohammer. What about 3/4?
Should shooting at units flanks and rears be more powerful than firing to the front?
>>98512605you could argue it should get around the armour bonus from shields and have a negative effect on morale, because troops are attacked as they're unprepared for it
>see funny short about skaven farsqueaker>look it up>a small handheld device that allows communication on the battlefield from farther awaythe fucking rats have cellphones?
>>98512623Yeah that seems about right, negating shield bonuses makes sense. Not sure how it would affect morale.
>>98512625it's more of a radio, but yes
>>985125923rd has a lot more narrative and simulationist elements, and allows your dudes to have a lot more agency similar to an RPG.
>>98512631>Not sure how it would affect morale.no need of reaching 25% casualties to trigger a panic test?dunno if it ends up being too strong, given how easy it would be to just drop a few small units with ranged skirmishers to disrupt big units thenmaybe just 12,5% (rounded up) casualties instead of 25%? provided the flanking unit causes at least one of those casualties?>unit of 20 needs 3 dead men instead of 4>unit of 30 needs 4 dead men instead of 8>unit of 40 needs 5 dead men instead of 10good enough? it favours having crossing fire with flanking units and normal ranged units, and it favours splitting fire between multiple enemy units instead of firing everything into one, to cause as many panic tests as possiblebut it is still all a significant buff to ranged units for arguably no real need
>>98512671Seems alright to me.In my experience, ballistic skill shooting is really weak in TOW. But maybe it's because I've fought mainly against warriors of chaos and dwarfs with my empire. Outriders and road wardens have actually managed to kill enemy models, handgunners never.
You will never play on a battlefield like this.
>>98512720Hastings has said there is a Warhammer siege supplement coming with the fortress being rereleased so actually you’re wrong
>>98512720projecting much?
>>98512730Hastings is washed though, I would take his rumours with a(n even bigger than usual) grain of salt
>>98512720it could be worse, we could have it as bad as the 40k guys.
>>98512720Do they have a midget that crawls around the table and pushes units around?
98512782>this bait again so he can post the pushy stick thingGenuinely sad how you respond to yourself
>>98512782No, he got banned from the lgs, that's why he's saying he won't play on that table anymore.
>>98512582Not him but this scenario seems stupidly unfair if the attackers start directly on top of the village more or less.
>>98512147He's also an interesting walking anti-magic field. Against anything with magic he also has pretty decent attacking power with a 5++ and usually a 2+ to wound and stomps. Don't make the mistake of that anti-magic thing though. It's slept on, but the biggest problem is he still costs a bit too much.
>>98512782Jesus dude, how short are you that you look at that table and think you'd struggle? Do you need a helper to get stuff off the shelves for you at the supermarket?
>>98512782>midget that crawls around the tablePlebeian. The midgets go under the table with magnet hats and you prod them with tridents to move the magnetized movement trays on the battlefield. No self respecting wargamer lets their midgets traipse about on the table. Disgusting.
>>98512782That's what perry is for
>>98512413Fuck i wish i could find an oldhammer group near me. 3rd edition is a wonderful mess of a game, and I've yet to find someone who plays it that's not a pleasure to play against.
I'm almost finished with these guys, just missing the eyes and a few dot highlights.These miniatures were released exactly 20 years ago, in the summer of 2006.And if it weren't for this starter set i probably could have never afforderd to stick with the hobby as a broke teenager and would have likely stopped being involved with the hobby altogether.They might not be the best dwarfs out there, but definitely my favourite.
Where do I find banners for my new dwarf army, is everyone just making some from parts or something the only one I could find is in a command set sold by GW.
>>98513198Where do you live? I can mail you some in an envelope. I've sent and traded bits with other anons before. I have a few banners and standards that eill bever get used, I'll gladly send them to you if you actually paint them.
>>98512730a pic of the original rumor ?
>>98513232No, but other rumourmongers with credibility have said that it was planned, but looks canned at least for now. Same with a ton of re-releases, apparently TOW was more popular than they thought so a lot of the "bring back old stuff into production" got cancelled in favour of just new stuff. It's why we'll never get Fimir back as well.
I'm painting swordmasters. I know 99% of people hate NMM here, but is there a quick passable gold NMM technique I can use on like 30 models?
>>98513300NMM on a rank and flank game seems like a fuckin waste. At least practice TMM instead so you dont feel like a prolapsed asshole.
>>98512280>>98512282>>98512286>>98512288>>98512292Lovely conversion, anon!>What is the latest model(s) you've 100% finished for your army?A hireling sorcerer for my DoW; Sallah ibn Yubayr ibn Fadlan, an arabyan scholar whos on a tour to gather artifacts and knowledge, thus getting himself employed by different merc armies ensures he ends up in different places (and probably within snooping distance of someinteresting ruins). Probably will use lore of Light and Heavens for him
>>98513300Basic nmm takes like 5 min per sword
>new ogre box claims to have 5 interchangeable swords>they're all in the left hand>5 interchangeable hammers>all in the right
I want a Dragon bro, like Aenarion had in Indraugnir.
>>98513841I found that really annoying too, no idea why they did that. Like that really isn't even a matter of sprue space or designer time or anything, just a bad decision. At least you can dual wield ironfists to your heart's content.
>>98513271but will the Warhammer Siege book be a new version or a re-release of the original from the 90s ?
>>98513859I’m gonna assume you want a bad dragon since most people who willingly embrace elf lore are fags.
>>98512625What was that you said old Boy-Boy?Warpstone counter devices exists already, it's not too far a stratch, of course how it works probably invovles turning your voice into warpstone waves.
I've had the throgg model for a while and want to make an army for him. I know he doesn't have rules in TOW (because the hacks at gw didn't make rules for characters, even just generic 'troll king' rules (they made these for AOS btw but not the game it was made for, cool)), but I want to play with him anyway leading a force mostly of monsters and stuff. Is my only choice to run him as a daemon prince?
>>98512720>The terrain is pretty much one sided for the defender, there's no balance here, how are you supposed to have a fair game when one got walls and towers and the other only got ladders, lol! Your 'game' looks boring and is boring, since who would want to play a game when you're sure you're going to loose, espcially when there's siege weapons ON the towers, so doulbe bonus for the defender, even that wooden double ladder on wheels won't even be able to stop a canon ball or a giant bolt. No wonder they destroyed the game and made Age of Sigmar like it's 40k, because that's what works.
>>98513271We like it because of the old models, who gives a shit about the new ones, old WoC were 32 for 100$, now it's 16 for 100, and zero option other than sword and board
>>98514301I guarantee that guy calls it age of shitmar but would never ever ever play fantasy
>>98514316He plays lots of Fantasy, that's where Vermintide and TWW are set!
>>98514311Didn't the originals also only contain sword and board? But at least resin greatweapons and halberds existed.There's a ton of armies I'd make if not for the cost, and the models are too detailed now anyway. You really don't need any more detail but it's all GW does now. Granted, when they bring back old kits, they still massively overprice them. I wish they'd just make them in china or something and give you twice as much per box
>>98514316That's every faggot in this thread, to be completely fair.
>>98514352Kek'd.
>>98514349I really dont get the issue people have with details. You can purposefully leave them blank on some parts of the model to have it blend in with the model and be filigree giving an abstract artwork look to some parts of the armour. Often the details look shit irl when you edge highlight everything especially given the average noob-mid level generic paint schemes/styles. The new warriors barely have any outrageous level of detail on them.
>>98514349S&B and two weapons options too. I'm tempeted to buy a box of it for my Beastmen for a little Horde of Chaos options
>>98512280>>98512282>>98512286>>98512288>>98512292>>98512297Great again beastbro.My last for my Beastmen were my Dragon Ogres. For my Empire, it was an artillery crew and a couple of engineers.
>>98514554Yeah but they're all the same not, the musician, the standard barer, the Champion...there's no more options short of the colour you'll use.
>>98514590My point is more you can intentionally draw attention to certain areas of the model through highlighting and detail and making other areas more plain and less detailed. Take the new warrior. All the detail is filled in and highlighted and it just becomes a shiny blob. If anything his lower legs draw attention more than the rest of the model besides the drum and even thats only due to the colour contrast for it. Theres no focal point on his head.
>>98512720I've got the tower at the front. It's from Battle Masters.
as the cathay jade warriors arms suppose to be this bad at dry fitting?
>>98514285Besides a DP, you could run him as a Doombull in Beastmen, or a Troll Hag in O&G (which has a dedicated troll AoI).
>>98514815Is he big enough to be a troll hag? Didn't consider the doombull possibility though, that'd be fitting
>>98514615NTA but all i see in that model is the CAM ON INGERLAND meme
>>98510581>>Purpura fellowship DoW anon, who made some fan rules for DoW (though its been a long time since hes posted his army)I'm still around, but I'm mostly just a lurker these days. the 6th edition revival here turned out to just be a TOW waiting room, and since that collapsed for the new shiny supported game I've been to bummed out and bitter to play fantasy again. So I've been working on some other projects(2e 40k and Mutant Chronicles Warzone), though I have been feeling the itch to paint up some more of my fantasy collection again.So you might just see me post my models here again.
>>98515025>since that collapsed for the new shiny supported game I've been to bummed out and bitter to play fantasy again.That's a shame. Hopefully it comes to pass>So you might just see me post my models here againLooming forward to that! I do recall fondly your battreps against the snotling horde, as well as the Shadow Over Albion games you posted (as well as the ones against HoC, where the Purpura Fellowship pikemen was surrounded on all sides in a last stand, and the one where you had a dwarf army as allies)
>>98515025I've known that awful feel before anon, I had an NCE group go the same way recently because of the wifebeaten cattle at my local club convincing themselves that THIS TIME it'll be different when they announced NuNuNucromunda.
recommend something for me to put on in the background while I slowly build the new Chaos Warriors and Cavalry pls
>>98515294https://youtu.be/DCXVpj7uRes
>>98514554>You can purposefully leave them blank on some parts of the modelPersonally speaking, that's not how I like to hobby. Especially not if I'm paying £3.50 per basic infantry model (chaos warriors as the example). I paint my models to the best of my ability as a skill to be practiced, plus I want to play the game with the best looking models I can muster, so I'm not leaving random details unpainted. But it's just a chore to paint 4 random trinkets per model. Give me the flat space, leave it as an open canvas, and let me practice my blending and glazing and freehand. It also makes the models more recognisable at tabletop distance if they have larger blocks of colour and fewer details to parse.>>98514349>There's a ton of armies I'd make if not for the cost, and the models are too detailed now anyway. You really don't need any more detail but it's all GW does now.Same and same. It's why 3d printing has reinvigorated my hobby. A few good creators out there who make modern looking models with a middlehammer level of detail. And they cost like £0.70 per model to print, including cost of STLs and consumables and electricity. Cheaper models, less unnecessary detail, bags more character. Way more enjoyable.
>>98514554And it's not just trim or trinkets, a large part of the issue for me is overlapping tiny bits of detail that look great on a zoomed in Instagram image but make zero difference in any real world viewing, either up close or on tabletop. Example: this drum stick, and the details inside the mouth of the skull. There's cloth over the top of metal over the top of wood, in a space that's probably 1.5mm long at most. For clarity the orange arrow points at the metal and the cyan arrow at a tiny area of wood. In my humble opinion that detail has not been designed with ease of painting in mind, at all, for anyone, even competition painters. It's just to get people to buy "our insanely detailed models".You can see the same thing with straps and wraps: 10 years ago, a section of wraps would be one continuous piece of material that you could paint and shade with one pass. On multiple modern kits, they design the wraps to have gaps in them, showing tiny slivers of the underlying material underneath, presumably because it's "finely detailed". Multiple tiny <1mm sections of cloth or wood, on basic infantry models. It does nobody any favours in painting them up; a choice between "painstakingly pick out each of these basic bits of wood and go back to clean up any mess on the straps criss-crossing them" and "leave parts of the model unpainted because painting them is universally agreed to be a pointless chore" doesn't have a good option, imo. Anyway rant over, to each their own etc etc.
>>98515398On the other hand it's not like anyone will notice or care if you just cut some corners painting them.
>>98515398>>98515407That’s the biggest thing. You really don’t have to paint in the detail. And your argument of „ If im paying for a model that has that much detail I must paint in every last bit of detail „ is a bit nonsensical, you’re setting your own standard/binding yourself. I personally think it’s better to have the detail, so that people who want to paint all of it can do so, and the rest of us can cut a few corners/hide some of the detail through leaving it dark enough for it to blend. I get your argument, but your inability to remain flexible due to terms you impose on yourself is rather silly.
>>98512479Let's be realistic, none of the OG Kossar models are carrying great weapons.
Came back to the ghouls after 8 years or so. This kit is legit dogshit to build and I lost 2 ghouls, ops>>98512286Are those pipette used to mix paint from the dogshit GW pots?
Hi can we please just soup Bret’s with empire, thank you!>>98515572It’s legit the easiest fucking kit to assemble. I could give it to a retarded marine, and after a minute or two of them deepthroating it for confusing it with dindins they would spit it out assembled.
Went to a tournament. Managed to encounter my first "that guy.">Brought 8 gyros, 3 cannons, and a grudge thrower facing my fluffy Royal Clans list>Started by complaining constantly when I caught his gyrocopter unit on a short fire and flee roll>Continued getting upset and increasingly aggressive that I was able to play the game since his shooting did not manage to delete all of my units before I was able to chug across the field and score points, get some charges off, etc.>Was very confident and aggressive about such rules as not needing to be entirely on the hill to get two ranks of shooting, and me being allowed to reroll dangerous terrain tests with move through cover for his engineer sapper hostile terrain rule, and sulked and complained constantly when I confirmed and showed him the rule>Berated me when I was about to role my armour savable wounds before the wounds that went straight through to my ward since it was a waste of time. Which statistically it was, but would have saved maybe 5 seconds.>I suspect a couple of instances of "creative movement," though I could not prove it and his general behavior might be coloring that for me.>Despite 1 misfire ending in no wounds the entire game (which I think on 4 war machines is like a 1-2% chance?) complained the entire game and afterwards about rolling badly on shooting>Managed to tie>Heard him aggressively arguing and sulking throughout the tournament with his other opponents.Other people where chill though. Kind of wonder what the point of all that was or what he was getting from this. Did not seem like he was having fun. Not like there was a prize or anything and while I like competitive play its not exactly super balanced or something I could see it worth getting upset over.
>>98515572The pipettes are used for diluting shades with mediums
>>98515583>they would spit it out assembled.and it would look like shit due all the gaps and mould linesThe hardest part of building warhammer minis is the clean-up... not assemblying
>>98515610cannonfags are a blight
>>98515635I do not mind cannons in principal as a stop gap (easy 100 points to get up to 2K) and I will not fault anyone for bringing a meta list to a tournament.However bringing a meta list who's win condition is to essentially make sure I do not get to play and then getting super upset and complaining about dice when I actually get to play the game is was interesting
>>98515583>It’s legit the easiest fucking kit to assemble.This might as well be. But my only experience with it is a coupke of ghouls from an used job lot where the previous owner had glued the the right arms in the left shoulder sockets and the left arms in the right shoulder sockets
painted a HE noble
I'm struggling to fit painting into my busy work life. How do you guys do it, especially how do you see a big army project through to completion?
Shouldn't the Empires roster in TOW be much different than the one in Karl's time? Did the Empire just not invent a bunch of guns and machines after the Great War Against Chaos?
>>98515700Guns existed in the Warhammer world since at least 1492IC since Marco Colombo ship had Cannons on it and Mordheim which is still set before TOW had Guns as well
>>98515697Try to take 30 minutes to an hour every day, even if you only get to paint e.g a weapon, a cloak or something on a handful of models at a time then eventually you'll work through your minis.
>>98515697I paint at work, during, lunch and breaks of course.That gives me a clean 5 hours of painting per week. If i get even 1/2 hour in the evening or some time in the weekend that's better. Consistent small sessions are better than sporadic dragged-out marathons.Do it enough time and it becomes an habit, to the point that lack of motivation stops being a real obstable.>how do you see a big army project through to completion?Batch painting. I usually assemble, base and prime a shitton of miniatures at once then work on batches. Find the bstch size that works for you (start very low and increase with time). I do batches of 12 models, which i tend to finish in 3-5 weeks over the course of many shortish sessions. It might not seem much but then by the end of the year I end up with anywhere between 100 and 150 painted models.
What monsters do you have in your army?
>>98515677The gemstones are beautiful, anon. Excellent work!
>>98512118Finished up a quick conversion on a Boar Chariot. It was fun enough that I'm almost tempted to put together another one, but that way madness (the Nomadic WAAGH list) lies.>>98513188Nice work anon, I'm a big fan of the bright colours, I bet they really pop on the table.
Source in picrel? The wikia says it's from the 3rd ed. Sieges book, but haven't founded there .
>>98515700>hey fryman, we gonna purify the heretics or what? this metal suit's chafin' my balls
>>98512625No, its dwarves that have steam powered telephones. Skaven have walkie-talkies at best.
>>98515908dwarfs don't have shit
>>98515908more like warpy-talkies
>>98515752The General. (Me.)
>>98515357Its nothing to do with skill or cost per model. If anything it requires more artistic skill to know what should and shouldnt be painted in excessive detail to evoke a certain effect. Most models people post here and elsewhere often lack a focal point as they do everything overly highlighted without any actual thought as to why or the direction of the light. The Chorf anon's models look good as he has a good paint scheme that draws your eyes to certain parts of the model. If you check the details he doesnt go excessive on it with edge 578548338933 highlights. >>98515398You dont need to highlight every bit of detail on that drumstick. with regard to straps and trinkets you can literally do most of them by a simple metal or leather layer followed by a wash (ideally reductive oil wash as you naturally cause highlights by removing it.Overall I highly disagree with the notion that detail is an outright issue and more an issue with how you guys wish to paint both through paint schemes/styles and techniques you use.
>>98515884Maybe the Dogs of War army book or the Fifth Edition siege book?
>Reading Grudgelore.>Equally shows the Dwarfs as resolute and awesome while also gold and grudge obsessed lunatics.Huh.
>>98516029Grudgelore jnspired me to do a fluff page or two on my own Thane, Grumgrimm. Sadly using Dwarfs lost its novelty slightly so alas, his saga over. For now.
>>98516078Would you be willing to post any of your work on Thane Gungrimm please, Anon? I am sorry to hear his saga is currently on hiatus, /yourdudes/ never truly end or die however and hopefully you rediscover the spark and desire for Dwarfs.
>>98515752I always try and fit a giant in to my lists, even though they aren’t very good.
>>98515610I was big into the tournament scene in 6th and 7th with my ogres and beastmen. Those players have always existed and always say the day after they had fun. Some people genuinely like complaining and use it as a venting pressure valve. Its really fucking terrible painting with them though. Our scene played WYSIWYG 3 color minimum so the hard-core guys in my group owned almost 3 armies worth of their models per faction. I had a dwarf guy accuse me of rigging dice when his cannon failed to kill my Tyrant after 3 hits that went through all my saves but each did minimum wounds.
>>98516103Here you go, from almost a year ago.
>>98516193Love it. Are those write ups of battles that you played? Very cool and nicely done.
>>98516215Aye, they were from TTS mind, with my friend using ogres. We used the original Battle March rules from that Seize the Tower scenario before it was formalised to what it is today. Sadly I found the Dwarf gameplay fun but somewhat stagnant. Here is the final account.
>>98512395Renegade Crowns is a cleaner fit because you can customise your unit loadouts so much more.Want actual bow cav? You can make thatWant two tiers of knights with or without horse barding? EasyInfantry is also easy and customisable in any direction
>>98516255TTS is just a tool. You clearly had fun and were able to spin a narrative over the course of games. Dwarf gameplay does feel rather stagnant due to lack of cavalry options and magic, I agree. Not even the beer cart can save them from that.
>>TTSYUCK
>>98516275Yeah why is why I went with greenies.>>98516282BLERGH
>>98515697Realise you hate your boss and quit your job, then sponge off government benefits while you speedrun army painting until they run out and you have to face responsiblity again
My group is doing Warmaster today because they've gotten tired of losing to almost fully ambush beastmen. I haven't played Warmaster since like, 2011? Anything worth knowing? I do think it will be fun either way at least.
>>98516364Ask in GWSG
>>98516364Warmaster is super good. Funnily enough, Beastmen have recently had an overhaul and Gor herds are massively underpriced in my opinion, so its yet another game in which mass Ambush is potentially very powerful.I dont think there is a GWSG up but did you want any specific knowledge?
>>98516364have you considered they're playing warmaster to avoid you
Is there any reason to not take Great Weapons and shields on every Dwarf unit that can pay for the additional upgrade? Thunderers and Quarrelers with additional great weapons and shields for use with hand weapons seems like a cheap but useful upgrade at 3 extra ppm.
>>98516434Yeah consider you dont want your ranged stuff to be fighting in melee to begin with you oaf.
>>98516454nta, I used to run great weapons on my ranged dwarfs.it did cost me a enough points to buy a couple more of them. but the worst thing that can happen is them getting stuck fighting light cav, fliers or infiltration infantry.the great weapons all but assured I'd win the fight with enough to route the enemy in combat resolution, provided I didn't get flanked.if two points is the difference between me getting charged in my opponents turn and getting to shoot in mine instead of being stuck in combat for my turn and possibly even longer then that's a steal.never bothered with shields, if they are shooting at my ranged units they aren't going after my infantry blobs or my siege engines. in close combat saving a few dwarfs but not breaking the enemy isn't worth it because they should be shooting not fighting.
>>98516429No, they specifically asked me to play it. My group aren't salty bitches except one guy who will concede turn 2 if one of his important units dies/breaks too quick.
That Skaven MTO is next week btwhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/sr4taoqg/sunday-preview-orks-rampage-in-next-week/
>>98516596Yes-yes!
>>98516596what kind of fag wants those awful models.
>>98516613collectors
>>98516615So turbo fags.
>>98516619Turbo autists really, but I'm sure there isn't much difference
>>98516434speaking from experience, trust me, take everything. you never know when your warriors or rangers or even thunderers are gonna get tied up by some higher toughness bruisers or creature, and while even the most basic dwarf units can last for days, you will never fight your way out of it with just hand weapons, especially on the S3 units. dwarfs work best as elite swiss army knives, not budget chaff, so dont skimp on the upgrades. having well armed units will make it hard for your opponent to find weak spots in your army, as even our basic ranged units can be outfitted and fight as well as most other armies elite infantry. also, dont overlook the option to give unit champions runes. that can make a huge difference when your front fighting rank suddenly has a miniature powerhouse they cant dislodge until the whole squad is dead and fights almost as hard as a rank unto himself.
>>98512302> Ruby RingFaggot
>>98516668It is for narrative purposes. I use Grumlok as my Warboss and he has a pocket wizard. I swap it with Wizarding Hat sometimes too.
>>98516454It's Dwarfs, they are simultaneously very expensive and very slow. Anon doesn't have the luxury of picking their fights and its extremely likely that the dedicated shooty units will end up having to fight something in melee.
>>98516677>Narrative playFaggot
>>98516677Really nice paintjob
>>98516930Sadly not mine but I strive to paint mine up to a worthy level for the sculpt. I just snagged it off I think 1d4? 1d6? One of them.
>>98516800>wtf TWW doesn't have this must be gay Sigmarchud shit!
>>98516677That's fucking rad. I'd that blorc too but would cost me an arm and a leg. Ignore the other guy, always 1-2 shitposters trawling.
>>98517132A lot of people still sell boxed copies of Age of Reckoning with the miniature in it, for less than the mini sells alone.
Whats the veredict for The Old World?I want to get a starter set but don't know if i just wait for 5e or get old world
>>98517170It's fine. It plays like a mashup of latter-day WHFB. Taking some things from 6th, some from 7th, and a few from 8th.It's been fun to play. If you've got a scene, go for it.
>>985171705e AoS I assume? That'll be a while still, that's for next summer.
>>98517231No, 5e WHFRP, it was announced some time ago.
>>98517209Sorry i meant the TTRPG
>>98517170dogshit
>>98517255WFRP 5e will just be 4e with some minor changes, like getting rid of most of the meta currencies.It's a very iterative edition change.
>>98517170>Whats the veredict for The Old WorldEven GW mostly gave up on it
>>98517255Kek alright my bad
Borrowed an idea from an old WD picture that someone posted here and made two foot paladins out of spare yeoman bodies and knight heads.
>>98515697How can you be so busy that you don't have time for your hobby?I have three kids, all under 6, work full time, volunteer at the fire department, busy hunting season, take my kids sailing weekly, and still have time to paint my models
>>98515294https://youtu.be/FrhfbYUdVIM?si=CYUEexOWoTouxLTd
>>98517554I like it! Although i think a kite shield might jelp having it read more like a foot knight than a yeoman with an helmet
>>98517170Pretty bad.
>>98517599Yeh I agree but there were no spare shield on the knight sprue and more importantly the yeoman body doesn't have a forearm. I'll compensate by adding armories to the shields to differentiate them from the men at arms.
>>98517429per the latest rumors, James is actually expanding its original plans and releases for TOW as he didn't expect the game's huge popularity
I fucking hate bretonnia holy shit
I want to like Bretonnia but they lack any fatnasy elements, and ignoring all the new awful kits they have, even the old models irk me with the stupid old motifs they have on their helmets. Its just wrong and millennial coded.
>>98517170There’s a lot of trolls here. It’s probably the best version of Warhammer Fantasy and plays like a best of 5-7th edition type game.
>>98517782>>98517810Yeah a lot of the old Perry sculpts definitely look like shit. Thankfully they will be replaced eventually
>>98517811HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE DOGSHIT RPG THATS STREAMLINED TO SHIT WITH NO FUCKING FLAVOR AND THE DEI ART WITH FAT FUCKING NEGRO HALFLINGS ON IT. LEARN TO READ OR I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD I WILL SODOMIZE YOUR FEET!
>>98515752Ogres. Pictured here; Bragg's Brutes, regular DoW ogres with extra hand weapons and a musician to act as muscle for the army
>>98517170Wait for 5E. Honestly, it just feels like they boiled down WHFRP into a more ruleslite "heroic" goo. The two times I've played it, it just felt like someone had gouged WHFRP rather than like a system with any actual merits.
>>98517825The halfing isn't black; it's just weird lighting in that piece of art.They're meant to be a fat ginger-like pic, which means all the premade female PCsfor TOWRPG are gingers
>>98517835The full unit of four
>>98517850This is meant to be the same character btw so it seems like the artist fuck up
>>98517856>>98515752And of course the most terrifying monsters of them all cocks
>>98517871>>98515752Also have in mind to add a unit of three maneaters to my DoW since A) I can, and they count as a special choice (rather than two rare choices) and 2) because having a unit of highly customizable ogres that are stubborn and inmune to psych in 6th ed seems like a good idea, especially in an army as barebones as Dogs ofWar
>>98517825If I couldn't read the initial post what makes you think I can read your response kiddo
>>98516139giants are fun, anon. Always glad to see one the lads having a stroll around a table
>>98517810Show us what bretonnia should look like.
>>98517971
>>98515700It is pretty different, mainly in magic, which is what saw the most reforms and advancements post Magnus. Guns and cannons and even the Steam Tank were already around. Not sure on every weird Engineer invention. Personally I hope when they resculpt the State Missile Troops and they go back to the old matchlock gun designs they had in 6th. Knowing GW though they wont, they'll add more wheel locks onto the guns and give the champion a top hat and monocle.Skaven is where they really shot themselves in the foot. Most of their stuff like the Doom Wheel, Gattling Guns and Warp Lightning Cannon were all specifically invented by Ikkit after the great war. If they ever bring back Skaven I'd bet money all that is getting retconed.
>>98515697I take about 10 years.
>>98515752cockatrice, it's fast, decent stats, it can fly, and got a ranged attack too at BS5.
>>98516596Man those new 40k Orks are so cartoony, it's sad to see.
>>98512625I haven;t read a ton of Warhammer books, so maybe they get better tech, but in Skavenslayer it's a giant machine attended by a couple engineers, and it's barely running and then it explodes. Grant it was rigged to blow up on purpose, but it still wasn't portrayed as cellphone.
>>98518109Building my Ork boys makes me happy the old design still exists in Fantasy. Also that I can get spare gun arms and turn Fantasy Orcs into Shoota/Slugga Boyz.
Solve death bricks
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Would it be fluff accurate for another Orc boss to take up the name / title of Ironclaw or would that be considered too much adopting the title of Gorbad?
>>98518153What is there to solve? The armies that can run good deathstars (TK, VC) are only able to do so thanks to unpreventable leadership-based resurrection abilities. For every other army, deathstars aren't a problem. If anything, you should be asking how to encourage people to run big blocks of infantry.
>>98518180He's the most legendary orc warboss, any other orc trying to claim the title would probably pass for a poser maybe it could work if he only takes the ironclaw title but keeps a different name
>>98518202Yes that was the idea. Morgrash Ironclaw and he'd be from the actual Ironclaw tribe. Least that was the logic. Might have to change it. Maybe Ironfist but that's a bit too dorfy.
Why are the pegging knights like $80It’s like 3 fucking dudes They aren’t even bigger than the normal cav.
>>98518215You can get them second-hand for half that. Don't give GW your money unless you want to.
>>98518215their price got preemptively overinflated so when they release the updated versions they receive less flak for the jump in pricetag
>>98517591Kek actually entertaining,.thanks anon
remember that time GW charged $100 for blood knights in like 2005 money and nobody bought the kit for 20 years because it cost more than most army boxes?
>>98517810the old bretonnian knights models with the helmet crests shaped mike towers, lions, etc... were absolute kino
>>98515884It is in Warhammer Siege (5th edition) book (page 32).Mega have it but in Spanish ("Asiedo").
>>98517554?
I couldn't focus enough to paint anything serious. Just bruteforced myself with this little bugger before sleep. He will be running alongside my sorcerer/bray shaman as a familiar.
>>98518651>>98517554
>>98518133Or you get extra 40k bodies and use all those spare bits for more fantasy orcs. Definitely never see enough of those in games.
>>98516027>>98518647I see it now. Yeah, it was on 5th edition Siege, not 3rd.Thank you both.
almost done with this guy
>>98518820Great work! Keep it up!
>>98515700gw fucked up as usual
>>98518647Garcias tio
>>98518683great work, anon. really love the dark brown around the eye for some reason>inb4 is that an aos model? AIIIIIEEEE I'M GOING INSANE
>>98518651>The components from many of our plastic kits are completely interchangeable Those were the times
>>98518683>Owning gay of shitmar modelsIshygddt
>>98518971it's still true for (loyalist) marines for the most part. they just forgot to for everything else
>>98516587>>98516379>>98516364Warmaster is interesting. Lots of things to like, lots of things to dislike. Fun but at the cost of strategy, which is odd because it's setup to be a more strategic game then clubbed with a tireiron in the knee. It's like, 80% of the way to being pure dicechucker. I'd be interested in playing again I think making my own list instead of using the Chaos warriors list they gave me. I know the one guy was super salty I won, he thought it would be a walk in the park since he's played it for over a decade.
>>98518977But marines are boring and look all the same. It's sad that he have completely abandoned the kitbash ethos they cultivated for so long
I'm getting an urge to get into WH Fantasy again. I had an Orc army as a kid and loved my little trolls and goblins. Looks like the newest edition has a similar style.
>>98518976>TWW tourist gets angry at people for owning minislol, classic
>>98518820Cool man>>98518856Always loved the look of these guys.I don't know what army to pick, its between skellies, orcs or chaos.
>>98519501Get new material
>>98519450I bought some Chaos Warriors to make into Nurgle guys, but I too am feeling the urge to just ditch them and go with O&G after converting a few. They just seem fun, and I like Goblins.
>>98519450>Looks like the newest edition has a similar style.The newest edition is using the same models from when you were a kid.
>>98518377>Charge 4 times the price of the competition >Why is no one buying official models?>The fans are killing WHFB!
>>98519756Based. Get a gym membership too.
>>98519825Really lol? I guess that's good tho the designs hold up
>>98518377I think it was more recent than that, like 2010 or 2011.But your point stands.Kind of. People have no problem spending that kind of money on 40k and or space marine.I think the fact of the matter is simply that RnF fantasy games just can't support the type of continuous expenditure GW expects to milk out of its customers.I also suspect that they could probably double their prices and enough people would still buy it to support their decision
>>98518820How to take such good photos?
>>98519891NTA, but someone posted this a while back.
>>98519849I have one. Have to stay fit for work, lol
>>98519914Thanks, anon
>>98517810Why do you want to like Bretonnia, if what they are (a faction with fewer fantasy elements) is something you don't like (lots of fantasy elements) ?>stupid old motifs they have on their helmets>millennial codedIs this just a troll post? Am I too earnest?>>98518377>>98519875I think it's less a free pass for 40k and more that the Blood Knight models weren't really that good in execution.
Are there rules differences between chaos trolls and common trolls? Has there traditionally been a difference between the two, besides fluff?
>>98518651Yes this one. It's simple but the good thing is that you can do it with leftovers from the knight and men at arms boxes.
Worked on my last Swordsmen tonight, 'ought to finish tomorrow, then the movement trays!What are YOU working on?
>>98520414Built ten goblins earlier in the day. Love your swordsmen!
Out of curiosity, does ToW have a tier list currently? Been playing 7e for a while and I'm dipping my toes in Battle March.
>>98520460>tierlistS tiermy dudesA tiermy friends dudesB tiereveryone else
>>98520483Best tier list.
>>98520460S-tier: painted models in a fluffy list.A-tier: painted modelsB-tier: fluffy list with a partially painted modelsC-tier: partially painted models D-tier: unpainted modelsEternal unquenchable hellfire tier: meta-chaser with unpainted miniatures.
>>98520483Found the reddit gold
>>98520460>tier list Holy shit, is this nigga serious?
>>98520206I don't remember any rule differences but I never play O&G or Chaos so didn't have reason to remember details.Download some of the rulebooks to see for yourself.
>>98518157It's coming along nicely.
>>98520503Does curiosity anger you or something? I'm playing the game do yeah, I'm curious.
It is crazy how good the new chaos units are, meanwhile the new big bag main ogre in AoS is a chick. lol How can I get more people to cross over from AoS or 40K?
>>98520519tier lists are misused and misunderstood by 95% of players because they can't play at the level required for the tier lists to matter and if you can play at that level you wouldn't need a tier list to tell you which factions are 'strong' and which are 'weak'
>>98520519Why would you be curious about something if you didn't find it tempting and alluring? That is, the desire to WAACfag. That's like saying "just curious, I wonder what buttsex feels like on the receiving end." No straight guy is curious about that, it tells us all you are rdeep down enticed by the idea of taking a cock in the ass
>>98520538That is quite the example my guy.
>>98520537Then there should be harmless of me to ask. It's not like I can meta chase since I don't have the money for a new army or the time to paint it.>98520538Projection.
>>98520542it's not harmless, it's actively self sabotaging
>>98520542Can you explain why you want a tier list? Curiously isn't an answer, because curiosity is always driven by something else
>>98520550Skill issue, it won't change anything for me since I'm playing only one army. If I knew this triggered people for such nonsensical autistic reasons I wouldn't ask in the first place, I guess I'll know better now.
>>98520558That's fucking nonsense, curiosity is natural.
>>98520460cathay and vampires topdemons and skaven bottom
>>98520564A legend army at the top? Funny. Thanks.
>>98519914>Literally using high end equipment, tricks of light, and editing to take pictures No wonder shit looks good when it's more retouched than pictures on a porno mag
>>98520559it's more that you're asking for something you don't need, can't correctly use and ALSO can easily obtain via any search engine you want.As such there's no reason for us to spoonfeed you, if you crave the lowest form of data turned into slop you can find that for yourself. I know an advantage matrix is harder to make and doesn't read as well in thumbnails but they're a million percent more useful
Newbie here. Brets get a BSB upgrade for free. Is it worth taking a paladin and upgrading him to a royal pegasus? Right now I’m list building and it’s hard to find the points after a kitted out Duke and Prophetess.
>>98520576Somebody already answered the question like a normal person >>98520564 so you can calm your tits, I'm not reading that.
>>98520586You should just stick to 40k lil bro
>>98520611NTA but there's no reason not to tell someone 'yeah, these armies are utter dogshit. If you love the models and the lore you can play them, just be aware. Oh and here's the renegade pack, it might help."Jumping down his throat is kind of retarded.
>>98520645I think it's just the regular shit stirrer trying to get attention by giving obnoxious answers as usual.
>>98515407>it's not like anyone will notice or careI'll preface this with "to each their own" again but I notice your unpainted trim and I do find it a slight shame. Of course I wouldn't pull you up on it, it's not a big enough deal outside of this conversation and besides they're your models and it's your hobby time. But I definitely care about my own models in that regard though. That's kind of my whole point. >>98515485>You really don’t have to paint in the detailYeah but I find that rather silly. And in this case, the flexibility is about printing models I'll enjoy painting, which I think is a much better solution. So we're all good. But I maintain that "you don't have to paint all parts of the model" is a cope for over designed models and, between that and the other side's "I want to paint all parts of my model but there's no way I'm painting that", indicates that literally nobody finds that extra detail useful.>>98516026>You dont need to highlight every bit of detail on that drumstickAs I say, might be fine for you but that's not how I like to paint>reductive oil wash as you naturally cause highlights by removing itA quick and dirty technique that produces a grubby-ish effect which is not how I enjoy engaging with my painting time. Works fine if you're into it, l'll compliment your models at the table if they're fully painted using this technique, but definitely not for me.
Skaven MTO next week
>>98515102Shit, I seem to have made an impression on you, anon! I'll try to have something cool to show off sooner rather than later. Pic related will be something to look out for, I'm recreating these conversions in blender to have generic pikemen to print for my army. Once they're done I'll throw them on gofile and share it with the thread.>>98515267It's fucking agony, man, I pray your group come to their senses.
>>98519891
>>98520759>IT SAYS-CLAIMS YOU'RE A HERETIC-BLASPHEMER!
>>98518076I want to get one but the only one I liked of those that I could find was from Alternative Armies.
>>98518856giant scorpion mount when?
>>98521166scorpions as mounts are dumb, they can't use their tail with you in the way riding them
>>98520530Do you REALLY want to play with 40K players, anon?
>>98521230>scorpions as mounts are dumbyes, this is warhammer.
>>98520530In my area AoS people are the pure hobby/artist types, or trannies so I wouldn't bother, especially after the price increases.40k would be more careful with but that's because most of them are tourneyfags or fancy themselves tourneyfags. They might be receptive to Battlemarch but that's just that much more models they have to get ready.
>>98520460Old World Rankings has one based on objective statistics.
If you're not painting and personalizing the inside of your movement tray, are you even doing this hobby right?
>>98521595I think big freehanded banners is more important but this is also cool
>>98521595I use the same movement trays for beastmen and empire so nah
>>98521640If the herd is in the same province as your empire army is from, you could theme the inside for the province. Or do some split thing where each half is for one army
Bought a box of goblins today. The bases seem outrageously big for them. Is an all-goblin army viable or just a meme army? I don’t really care either way because I love the little retards, I’m just curious.
>>98521727Yeah, for the most part I think the new base sizes are fine and even an improvement in some cases (black orcs). But goblins, and especially night goblins, look like they're doing social distancing on 25mms. All goblins is a meme army for sure. All night goblins is more viable, but 90% of it is just because of fanatics, and bringing like 8+ fanatics in a list is peak lame tourneyfaggotry.
>>98521768Yeah, orcs on 30mm makes sense to me too, but gobs on 25 is nuts. Sucks that it’s a meme force as far just getting my ass beat any time I play with them, but I guess it’ll make it more fun when I actually pull off a win.
>>98521768In my last game vs night gobbos my opponent got a 17 for movement on his giant squig and fucked up my plans by sniping my first lord but jokes on him my Keeper of Secrets self buffed to have effectively 11M and got into his filthy gobbo lines before he deployed the fanatics.
Nu-giantshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/zarljpll/revealed-new-gargant-miniatures/
>>98521955Wonder if that means the old plastic WFB Giants will be repackaged for TOW nowYou wouldn't even need to errata the rules to accommodate the change
>>98521595I once considered personalising the movement trays so that the more models are removed the more they show dead troopers and bloodied ground (the simple way would have been printing a screenshot of a carpet of dead bodies from total war), but I have since moved towards way more heterogeneous units with different freaks, round bases and whatnot, so it's a nightmare to plan for, and the immersion it would offer gets broken the moment the unit moves, so I never bothered.I might start considering individual dead tokens to drop on a table just for fun though.
>>98521978>I might start considering individual dead tokens to drop on a table just for fun though.I've wanted to do this since I saw the old Mordheim casualties years ago, and those were just regular foot sloggers just cut up, arranged and moulded. Should be a piece of piss to do it ourselves.
>>98520645>>98520586>>98520561>>98520559>>98520542>>98520519>>98520460Tourneyfags and tier lists actively destroy the hobby. They are an objectively bad thing and their prevalence has utterly obliterated any semblance of fun remaining in the 40k scene. If does not matter if you personally are just asking out of curiosity and don't REALLY care about that sort of thing, tolerating their presence is inviting more. Gatekeeping against them is the best thing anyone can do, and you should feel a moral obligation to jump down the throat of anyone who suggests otherwise. If you care about power levels and tier lists, WFB is not for you and you should go away.
>>98521727>>98521768Might be a hot take, but a bunch of units that should have stayed 20mm should now be swarms at 40mm and adjust their cost to make sense for it. Gobbos on a base with 4 attacks 4 wounds is interesting because it fits their theme of a jumbled mob, giving them decent number of attacks even as they take wounds.Peasants, maybe flagellents, clanrats, melee skinks, ungors. Honestly, maybe every army with a core light infantry that cost 6 or less?
>>98521727I am building a unit of goblins right now and plan on putting them on 20mm bases because they look pretty bad on 25mm bases. A heads up, the sculpts are charming and nice and characterful, but expect to do a lot of mold line cleaning and potentially dealing with mold slippage too. All Goblin armies seem viable as well, mostly because of the sheer amount of goblin variety. Best of luck!
>>98522028Thanks. I’m kind of kicking myself for not getting night goblins instead, but I can add them later I suppose. I’m going to put mine on 20mm too, I’ll just even it out with a movement tray for TOW
>>98522026I feel like if you did that you'd have to apply it to all line infantry and buff monsters again because we don't have step up anymore and it would be really silly for losing 1 wound on a chaos warrior or daemon to cost you retaliatory attacks but 3 wounds to gobbos does nothing.
I missed you guys.
I am in dire need of a War Wagon.
>>98522185Missed you mates as well.I even went to 8chn to see if I'd find anyone.
>>98521955>new big shot character is a foid>negroid giantsAoS just can't get a fucking break
>>98521963apparently the current plastic giant stays in aos too
>>98521595I just match them with the basing of the army
New giants & giantesses.>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/zarljpll/revealed-new-gargant-miniatures/imagine being a regular Empire trooper tapping that
>>98522319It's not like TOW is any better, with a lot of the new special characters being women and certain artists showing black in the artwork or army paint scheme every chance they can get
>>98522475>TOWIsn't that cubicle 7 stuff?
>>98522475Well it's definitely better than AoS but you're right that it's still there.
>>98522319Can giants not have brown skin? He's not even black-black.
>>98522475WFRP 4th is the same, all women are competent and great, all men are dumb and opportunistic, plus the blacks, asian, arabs, hindoos "Becasue it's fantasy"...well even fatansy worlds needs rule, or else it's just a clusterfuck of whatever you want
>>98522475Okay but tow has valid reasons for having negro nobles in altdor and kislev rather than in my bretonian wife.
>>98522501Do you think aos can not possibly have black people because of lore or something?
>>98522501>tow has valid reasonsDoes it?The Empire doesn't have any colonial Ports at this point in time and i doubt the Kislivite do either since there more focused on the eastern steppe than anything else
>>98522520Ostland quite literally produces bvlls.
>>98522535your too American schizobrained anon
>>98522475TOW has fat chinese women as Ostland halberdiers
>>98522593Does it have them or is that character creation art?
>>98522598That art is from the 4e core rulebook, which kinda has a lot of janky, terrible art overall, but they did reuse it so someone at C7 think it's a good representation of an Ostland halberdierspic is the cloest to the that the player guide for TOWRPG gets to that
>>98521955>Groid giant>Troon giant>Token faceless white giantYeah, my arachnid sense says it's goyslop
>>98522495I dunno dude seems about right
>>98522593That's not Chinese that's unironically just the Ostland (mixed Gyppo) phenotype.
>>98522641I see the genealogy
>>98522593>>98522627>TOW RPG has historically sound ethnic homogeneity in Old World nations>WFRP 4e has californian demographics in Old World nationsdoes that mean there is now a canonical mass immigration event occuring in the time between TOW and WFRP (probably after the Great Chaos War) ?
Do you use AOS models for your TOW armies?
>>98522627>C7Less canon than end times
>>98522712Army?
>>98522712Nobody plays ToW we just shitpost here while the new Total War DLC downloads
>>98522712just builded my new wifeStill indecided if keeping the bone collar was the right idea or no but it make her feel more regalStill no idea if I will glue the halberd or the spear thoWill wait until the rest of the spearhead is builed before closing the gaps
>>98522788forgot the pic cause I'm retarded
>>98522648Retarded faggot take, the Empire has never non white in whfb
>>98522800Outside of this artwork of the elector count of Ostland, which is based on his fifth edition model
>>98512147>stone thrower>Ballistic skill of 1What were they smoking
>>98522839he got only one eye
>>98522821Not a whfb artwork, faggot.
>>98522796>bush on full displayHow did they get away with it
>>98522915It's literally based on a model from WFB anonI'm sure a guy with this guy's would be considered "white" by either historical or even modern standards.
>>98522955Looks like your average bulgarian desu
>>98522839>>98522889He's blind (unless you're magical)
>>98522955Literally just a slav, yes. Stop pushing you retarded faggot shit.
>>98522977Do the other beastmen know this?I think being blind should be an important thing to write on your CV if you apply to throw stones at the enemies
>>98522979Slavs are not white, Ivan.
>>98522994Pathetic attempt at damage control.
>>98522821>>98522955>>98522979We might have normal Slav looking Kislev, althought I suspect it'll all be woman and big bellied bald men
>>98523000It'll be chingchongs, women and ooga boogas. GW is pozzed to shit but it literally doesn't matter because we already have good kislevite 3D printed armies and the moment GW releases kislev there'll be a shit ton of awesome 3D models following.
>>98523018Considering we didn't get any black Norscans I am certain there will be no Chinese or black Kislevites.
>>98523098Space wolves says otherwise
>>98523115I know you're just here to shitpost and be negative, but TOW is not 40k. They are treating TOW as a historical setting, look at the Space Wolves miniatures on their webstore and then look at their Empire miniatures on the webstore. There are 38 Empire kits on sale on the webstore. and exactly 0 blacks. While the Space Wolves have blacks in all their SW specific squads. It's treated differently.
>>98523121>I know you're just here to shitpost and be negativeFirst off im not even that other anon, and really, who would do that? >but TOW is not 40k.No but they are under gw who has delivered nothing but abortions with the brets and the new chaos warriors.>look at their Empire miniatures on the webstore. Why would I look at photo shopped minis that arent even painted? You dont actually think the tow team painted any of the old models, now did you?
>>98523164>No but they are under gw who has delivered nothing but abortions with the brets and the new chaos warriors.The new Chaos warriors are literally based off 5th edition art dummy.>Why would I look at photo shopped minis that arent even painted? >
>>98523121You're deluded my guy, that's a crazy thing to say when they're painting black damsels, marauders and other stuff and make artworks of africans constantly for the TOW RPG.GW is full of retarded faggots and therefore the fagshit will always sips through no matter what.Stop desperately clinging to it like a weak ass little boy and just accept the reality. Denounce it and move on like the rest of us.
>>98523185Oh it's you lmao>move on like the rest of usLMAO
>>98523179>The new Chaos warriors are literally based off 5th edition art dummy.Old does not always mean good. Nor does it give them some sort of leeway.>calling me a shchizoI leave that in /x/ tyvm. But no, seriosuly, the eavy metal team does not care about painting the minis on display on the webstore half time and they sure as shit did not do that when no one cared for tow at the time when they were shitting out entire ranges with dwarfs and orcs and goblins and chaos warriors and the empire back to back. They either re-used old paint jobs and copy pasted it or just only photo shopped it.
>>98523200It's literally just talking in circles and samefagging and schizo claims with you. As you can see by the brand new WoC miniatures, none of them are black either, when normally in 40k/AoS there is a black guy in every unit. Meanwhile TOW has 0 blacks in the official models on display/in the store. TLDR: You're either a shitposter or legitimately a schizo.
>>98523212>Meanwhile TOW has 0 blacks in the official models on display/in the store.Well yeah because over 3/4 of the things for tow werent painted by the eavy metal team. They were shopped. If they were to be painted- well. We've all seen the warcom articles I assume.
Is it time to post that pic once more then?
>>98523220tbf it's literally one guy on the TOW team that adds blacks to their armies, called Dave in the WarComm articles. and since TOW apparently only has like 10 people working on it that's not the worst percentage
>>98523200>old does not always mean goodIncorrect. I won't post my 5th ed warriors again, but you're just wrong. The old models are wonderful.Now, as a separate statement, while the new chaos models are very clearly meant to pay homage to the 5th ed models, they're obviously not as good because they have less options, are more annoyin to assemble, and lack the charm that makes the 5th ed range so great.Old always equals good when it comes to WHFB.
>>98523121If and when GW updates state troops, each box will be 20% women and half the male head options will be broad-nosed, fat-lipped subsaharans.
>>98523195yes it's me I'm the guy who makes every post calling what GW makes goyslop.
>>98523372The thought of that makes me very sad.
How come the new Marauders are on 30x30mm bases?I have a thought, extrapolated to the max, and think that GW got a 5 year plan to get TOW all on 30mm as the models are replaced by monoposed CAD uninspiring models, cutting costs on the multiple bases they must manufacture. Also pushing aside the older models like in 40k with the marines, replacing the consummer base by new blood, with the old guard who bought all the new models, basically a new army from scratch ($$$) or without the old guard and their old 20mm, 25mm /theirdudes/.
>>98523488Because they released new, bigger models. Also, the other chaos characters were on 30mm bases, so having characters join a unit of marauders was bothersome. Your thought is not original and is quite obviously what their business model is. Why do you think they increased the base sizes in the first place? If you, or anyone else in this thread, rebased your models, you're part of the problem. You aren't special for noticing what everyone else did several years ago at this point.
>>98523515You ok, bro?
>nonstop samefagging shitpostingI can tell this guy has definitely moved on and is not totally obsessed.
For how much the other anon keeps posting Perry minis, they just seem out of place - proportion wise - compared to the other Warhammer minis. Shame.
>>98523372That's completely unfounded considering 0% of the new releases for TOW have had blacks. You're having a schizo shitposting manic episode lad.
>>98523542They look especially tiny next to recent releases. Probably why he likes them so much, he seems himself in them.
>>98523550>the “we’re trying to break into the Chang market that hates blacks” line of releases has no blacks>the main antagonists of the setting (WoC) now have a single named character, and it’s a swarthy womanOk, m8.
>>98523542Captain Bloodsword is also a particularly skinny model. I’m working on stripping an eBay rescue and he looks emaciated compared to state troopers, so the perry guys are skelemaxxed
>>98523515'bothersome', yes I'm sure GW is trying to save us all some hassle, as they always did.And I'm saying things for now, not years ago. Having bigger models is something ot point at, it goes beyond the base but a whole change of the game, like the Primaris did with 40k. Years of models no longer legal, compared to Fantasy, where some model from 1988 is still valid.Also, I don't plan on rebasing, I think it is a waste of time. Just get adjusted movement trays or make your own.I suppose all Empire will be the size of that Mercenary General model, half ogre, what is this, Conquest? Would that suddenly get people to play it instead of AoS or 40k? Bigger, uglier models with no options WYSIWYG to the purest form, being the only form there is? I am answering my own question, but it'll need more than Cathay to get people turning their heads.
>>98523542Perry minis are retarded and 3D printing made them completely irrelevant nearly a decade ago.
>>98523598Bothersome as in the rules specifically make it so that having a character on a differently sized base join a unit with a smaller or larger base size forces you to put the character sticking out on the side. You should know this, it's in the core rulebook.I'm glad we agree GW is fucking players over. Don't like 'em, don't buy 'em, that's my motto. If other people keep fucking up, let them. It's literally not your, or my, problem.However, I think you should keep this 40k complaining where it belongs, as in not here. WHFB isn't 40k. The people playing WHFB aren't the people playing 40k.WHFB players kept damn near every edition of the game alive for over ten years. You're preaching to the choir right now. Go post this shit in /40kg/ where it actually might help someone.
>>98523542>they just seem out of place - proportion wise - compared to the other Warhammer minis.Seems like the obvious solution is to just buy a perry army so you don't have to mix. An army will cost about the same as two GW units. Tbh after getting other models I can't go back to GW's "heroic" big hand bobbleheads. It works great for orcs, trolls, goblins and ogres, not so much for humans and elves.
>>98523639Oh-oh, did someone spit in your beer buddy?Which character are you in our merry lot here feller? The anti-perry purist? A change from the anti-perry troll.
>>98523574>swarthySwarthy????
>>98523705I genuinely have no idea where that came from, anon. Are you trying to actually discuss the game and where it's going, or are you just trying to troll? What do the Perry brothers, who contributed many great sculpts to WHFB in the '80s and who have, unfortunately, had their names ran through the mud by retards who infest threads they don't belong in, have to do with this discussion?If you don't like GW and their business model, good. I agree. Why are you shitting up this thread?
>>98523715>I want to see the manager
>>98523722lol, lmao even. you're the one who came out guns blazing, I'm just returning fire, not that it's getting anywhere both ways.
Upset feelings are no excuse not to post cool things in a cool thread. Contribute!
>>98523740I may have been a bit rude. Sorry. I'm tired of people posting very obvious truths and then acting as though they've just received Revelations. It's irksome. I think we agree on a lot of things. Have something cool as an apology.
>>98523773thanks
>>98520511Great work, love your chorfs anon.
Fresh bread?
>>98524268why, there's plenty of space between here and page 10 before we're at risk and we're barely over 60% the way through the image limit
>>98523715I cant wait for Asavar Kull to show and rape her in front of own men
>>98524309D6 Plaps.
>>98524309Sir, it’s current year. Kul will show up, praise her prowess and in a monologue sequence in his own mind acknowledge that of all the champions that follow him, she alone may yet best him one day.
>>98522459I already have an old one I need to snap off his round base and put on the square. Doubt I'll ever need more than good old Motley Jack.>>98522712Snarlfang minis for a hobgoblin khanate themed nomadic waagh. Thats the plan at least. Right now all I own for it is the aforementioned giant and an unpainted banner boss on boar. The Droggz character just needs his big ass banner taken off and he's a Kiknik in waiting.
Done (in a way)My last three Swordsmen are done, the Standard Bearer will be completed tomorrow I'll try to do another freehand skeleton, but this time with Sword&Board.
>>98522977>Let's design a blind stone thrower with ballistic skill 1What were they smoking
Is it true that homebrew stuff inserted into the Warhammer Fantasy wiki or lexicanum being trolls or autists wanting their homebrew canonized made it into the old world map?I read about it here somewhere and just remembered it. Can anyone confirm or did I fall for someone's ass crust?
>>98524576>it's also a6 strength 6 wound 6 toughness monster with stomp attacks, has terror, can move 7 and hurl a rock, and finally that causes mages to go insane near itI dunno. It's something tho
>>98524594oh, also is large target so essentially ignores screens and basically every unit that could block his vision anyway.
God damn it, these newer kits fucking suck. Everything is split into 50 pieces and the directions blow. Does a single leg really need to be 3 fucking parts? Just put this Kroc together wrong because they decided the chest piece I needed wasn't the one on the spru with the rest of it's parts, but randomly on another spru. Why even number the parts if your going to just throw them where ever you want. Why the fuck is part 50 and part 52 on completely different sprus. Fuck you GW.
>>98524591I remember some drama about the Tilea part of the map. All I heard is they sourced a fan map by accident.
I have two unassembled metal Bretonnia trebuchets. Are the resin recasts really more detailed and better?
It would be cool if they brought back Dogs of War units for mercenaries choices. Birdmen, Pikemen, crossbowmen.
>>98522945Which model is this?Might see if I can wank to it, will report back
>>98524682I feel you with building. Some things are intuitive and some don't make sense or are flat out wrong.
>>98524715Technically you can have crossbowmen with heavy armour and shields in the renegade crowns list, but they're not a Merc unit available for all factions.
>>98524443>"and then the brave strong waman escaped back to the wastes after cleaving her way through those heck'n chuds in kiev. Off into history she went until the End times (tm) where she was the real unsung reason Archie was able to win the day secretly. And in Age of Sigmar (tm) her prowess and soul of her soul was so brave and strong Sigmar personally redeemed her into his best stormcast.
>>98524737I cant even deny this is at least a plausible ending with modern gw
COLD-BLOODED KILLERS
>>98524757Nice looking army Anon! And I spy with my little eye some Lizardmen too
>>98524757baller paint job. Is it actually yours?The moonrunes in the file name make me dubious
>>98524770Yes I just have a Japanese locale PCHOLA SKINKS
>>98524719The leader of the royal beastflayers, she got a nice ass too
>"Bro, watch Dawi After Dark if you want to start a Dwarf army!">Tourney talk.>Linehammer based cheesy tourney tactics.>Host is covered in tacky prison looking tattoos.Hideous. Makes me want to start an Elf army on principal.
Good has 6 factions, evil has 4. Bring back Dark Elves. Or Chorfs. Chaos has an AoS line and a TOW line, so it’s possible.
>>98524877Most of the Warhammer YouTubers seem kinda shitty people, especially that one fat guy. The Aussie guys sound like they've a better attitude towards the game, but that might be because of the funny accents. The jolly fat guy over at old world legends also sounds like he has the proper mindset. It's also fun to hear him try to steer the conversation with his co-host, who is much, much more critical about the ruleset etc.
>>98524846>B67So cutting the bone necklace and part of the cloak would mean a bare chest, and some work done with greenstuff
>>98520530>is a chick.ooohhh he doesn't know
>>98524846Couldn't do it, sorry
