I can't believe it's Titanicus edition.Previous thread: >>98484156>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/1accdP>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/TQ: What you accept a Titanicus intro game with me?
>>98512958>TQ>accept a Titanicus intro game with meMaybe on tabletop simulator because i don't want anybody here to doxx addresses.>real lifeNo. I am too socially awkward, autistic and I smell bad even after a shower, deodorant and teeth brushing and wearing clean clothes somehow.Like every other Warhammer anything player.Those photoshopped model graphics are getting better and better. I hope it isn't AI.I already clicked a long music video and liked it then found out it was AI when I thought it was just the thumbnail.
>>98512985>and I smell bad even after a shower, deodorant and teeth brushing and wearing clean clothes somehow.I thought I typed "and I will smell bad" then the rest.This aint gonna be good.
So what's the status of the Lost and the Damned in this edition? I want to paint hordes and hordes of chaotic chaff.
>>98513012Dunno, I can't find them.
>>98513023Hmm....
>>985130337/10 needs more gun.
>>98513037:(
>>98513049I'm sorry I was trying to be funny I love your dread <3
>>98513012Lost and damned arent their own faction and afaik have never been. But theres several ways to make militia "lost and damned" flavored and militia are pretty good.
>>98513018For some reason this one reminds me of mech-quest or whatever that scifi one by the guys who did adventurequest was called.
>>98513018You know what a great kit for trying to make modern looking missile pods is? Primaris desolators
>>98513079Weren't they a faction in 1st ed?
>>98513243If they were im ignorant of it. Regardless, you can run basically everything "lost and the damned" as militia nowadays. I guess they dont have hounds of xaphan any more? but even then you can run them as cyber-crocs for beastmasters.
Anyone interested in a shitty vibe coded applet that makes pdfs styled after the GW ones for custom units?
>>98513243I assume you're thinking of imperialis militia and warp cults?
I have 20 (proper) mk III marines, the opportunity to purchase 10 (proper) mk IV marines, and the desire to build neither. Should I?
>>98513317Just make and share a LaTeX template on overleaf
>>98513418Do whatever you want. Regardless the old sculpts live on through 3d prints and recasts.
What if I put nu-mk4 heads on the plastic tartaros, what if
>>98513449See, I have no idea how to do that and dont have one (a template) and have never heard of overleaf. I do however have a thing that does a thing.
>>98513548You'd be shot
>>98513568Here you go, upload this to a website called overleaf and hit the compile buttonhttps://files.catbox.moe/yv2ukd.tex
>>98513619Oh, thats cool. Thanks anon!
>>98513570too late!
>>98513026Fuck I know it's primarislop but but I love this one. Gw just give me satty dreads with a melee profile and an up jumped storm cannon and my money is yours. I don't even care if it's a journal, I'll convert it myself.
>>98513958wait for the plastic Sicaran Punisher, mountings should be the right scale if not so simple to marry>melee ugh just fuck a robot we all know you're thinking it
>>98513958Sounds like you just want a bigger leviathan.
>>98514035Why are there so many marine fags who obsess over size? So many that are always chasing ever larger models, at this rate we'll see people un-ironically use those joytoy dolls for a regular game in the next five years. I just don't get it.
>>98512958Is it normal to kinda dread the painting out of fear that the minis might turn out bad?
>>98514155I think so.
>>98514155Being afraid of messing up while painting is fine, just don't let it consume you to the point you never paint anything.
>>98514155Just paint more, you don't know how it will turn out before trying and even if it does you can simply strip it and try again. Failure is the best way to learn. Have a growth mindset. You are not bad, you are improving your painting by practise. Bad would be having just grey unpainted plastic. Have fun, don't overthink it too much. >>98514217Agreed.
>>98513026>>98513023>>98513018>>98513013Primaris and its consequences have been a disaster for 40kind
>tfw you're running an event and have to sit out because an even number of players show upwell at least I got a photo with my army finally
>>98514062succumb to the fat marines. the future is bigger. you will be scale crept and submit.
>>98514681they look hideous, especially the legs. I fundamentally don't respect you if you think that looks good.
>>98514588cool army, what are the long tubes on the land raider tho?
>>98514681
>>98514783i could respect your opinion but a man who ridiculed another’s models without posting his own is not worthy of respect. imagine me rolling some dice, then you rolling some dice, then you having to pick up your skinny jean marines while my models stand triumphant having only lost some chunks of their leg armor>>98514877next print i do ill add a few percentage points on the x-axis just for you
>>98514907Here, faggot. Your models still look like the michelin man after he got fucked by an air pump.
>>98514907>>98514681Great paint job, but i personally hate the scaling of those models, they look like they got super tiny heads and little baby hands.
>>98514961there you go bud. your guys look alright>>98514967thanks anon. i like these sculpts because they look more like the 5th ed art i came up on. the heroic scale came to but me with how marines and humans looked the same but i must admit the current gw scale looks a lot better
>>98514681I mean... at least they're painted?Are those 32mm bases?
>>98515091getting mixed messages from the gallery here about which part is too big lol. nah they’re 25mm for painting. i didnt get to finish them
>>98515101Wait so those models are like >2" tall?
>>98515119idk i’ve never put a ruler to them but here you go for comparison
How do you do, Heresy Anons? I have been lurking here for a while now, as a former 40kfag.
>>98514852They're for building pipes to bypass the strait of warpstormuz.
>>98515128>6'0 vs 5'11
Another Custodian HQ #RapedByRavens. 1 rounded in a challenge even with EW.Will post the rest of my event photos after we’re done tomorrow, I got to participate in a Titan walk for the first time too!
>>98515408RIP in piss tronstodes
>>98515391what THA
>>98514961Ofc a chaos cultist worshipper would attack and defame the noble Blood Angels
>>98515408Well done.Are you the same RG anon who did those shotgun conversions from volkite calivers?
>>98514961Has any STL maker recreated the Cadian shoulderpads or the 2022 Cadian shoulderpads to be used as shoulderpads on 28mm human arms? I'd love some of those for STLs. My militia needs those so I can fit insignia decals on them.>>98514907I like both Tortuga Proportions are the Age of Darkness plastic beaky proportions so it makes me wonder if a middle ground can ever be made between them as some anons here say that the new proportions are too skinny and Tortuga is too fat.
What's a good source for big top knots on cataphractii like the old vision of heresy art?
>>98515618Wire + tiny beads + greenstuff.Drill a hole, glue some wire into it. Clip the wire to whatever length you want and bend it however you want the topknot posed. Add a couple tiny beads for the wrapped section, then add some greenstuff to form the hair. Add hair texture by dragging a needle along the greenstuff.
>>98515548Indeed!
>>98515760I really liked that idea so I stole it. Way cooler than the new shotgun sculpts imo.
>>98515618Various Chaos helmets, Ork/Orc heads, Allarus Terminators.
>>98515760>that axe hand
>>98515918Good ideas, which chaos helmets? The old ones are too small, I need BIG ones.>>98515723I can't be arsed, interesting suggestion tho. Have you done it yourself? Pics?
>>98515760Woah based based based, why did you choose IH for your legion? Seem kinda underrated desu.
>>98516089>which chaos helmetsWhichever has the toppest of knot.
Can anyone give me convincing arguments to keep my knights in LI/AT instead of focusing on titans? I prefer the titan aesthetics but am still fond of things like the questoris and styrix/magaera, and knights seem to miss the point of AT with managing the facings, reactor, shields. Heard they're good for objectives though? Not sure if there's any fun maniples with knights or if they're pointless.I know knights struggle a bit in LI with only being able to kill like 1 or 2 things in base contact in combat, and being multirole hamstrings you with moving and shooting or charging, though maybe focusing on wrecker which does let you do both is a fair shout? Or again, if I should just stick to long range fire support titans for demolition at range.
>>98516089Howling Banshees have a pretty big fop of hair on their helmets? That might be the size you’re looking for but they got kind of an odd shape cause of said helmet. I suck at greenstuff myself so I understand the reticence, but I’m not sure if you’ll get the proper look otherwise. GL though, going for Visions looks is always a worthy goal
>>98516318>Can anyone give me convincing arguments to keep my knights in LI/AT instead of focusing on titans?Knights need Arnigger, no Arnigger, no Knight, those fuckers are 60 for 3, in resin. So yeah, stay the fuck away.
>>98515408That is... improbable. But always good to see a bananaboy get fucked.
>>98516401And if/when armigers are in plastic, what then? Also why do you say that knights need armigers?
>>98512958what we thinking about using command shields as proteus pattern shields?
>>98515408>1 rounded in a challenge even with EWWouldn't you need to roll like five 5+ hits on 6 dice? It's so improbable
>>98516653too small
>>98516341Banshees don't have it in a nice knot, I appreciate the effort tho anon.This guy used the tail hair of an empire knight, looks pretty good imo.
>>98516661They get hit on 4s iirc. Assuming its a shield captain rather than tribune this outcome isnt even that unlikely.
>>98516089I've done it without the beads. I don't have any pics of my work handy but it's easy as fuck. You just need a pin vise and some small diameter wire. Drill into the head, glue the wire and slap some greenstuff onto it. Sculpting the hair is easy, just use your fingers to pinch and roll the greenstuff into whatever shape topknot you want, then drag the tip of a sewing needle across it a couple times to give it texture. The wire gives the greenstuff enough structural support to make all sorts of shapes and poses.
>>98514159>>98514217>>98514293thanks, bros. i got a pretty steady hand and i dont drench the thing in paint, but theres all this stuff about techniques, details, using the right colors, washes, thinning the paint, etc. that i am afraid of ruining the minis by not painting them well enough after splashing cash on an army.
>>98516713what's the consensus on using those chaosy heads in for non-chaos characters? really dig the mandalorian/spartan look and i got a couple from a chaos lord set that i would love to put to use
>>98517110You have to fail to improve. Sometimes failure is a god awful looking mini, and sometimes it's okay but kinda meh, or maybe its good overall but its only 80% of what you wanted it to be.If you're worried about cost try painting smaller batches (5 dudes instead of 10 dudes). Start with your least fancy guys and work your way up. Don't rush yourself, spend as much time as you need. Try something new each time. You literally can't improve unless you try stuff you haven't tried yet.IMO 90% of growth as a painter isn't developing fine motor control or learning new techniques, it's developing personal taste like learning what colours to pick, and developing experience like how your paint will behave when you dilute it by X amount and how much to load up on your brush in Y situation.
>>98517167Go helm or go home.
>>98517110paint isn't gonna ruin the model. you can just repaint them later, once you're more confident in your skill, if you're dissatisfied with the old paintjob
>>98515760How did you achieve that ashy black color for your marines?
>>98516653on the modern termies? if you can convince enough Mech players to part with them, there should be plenty of Questoris Knight tilting shields floating around in bits boxesbig, basic, mounted to the left wrist it somewhat resembles the boarding shield it probably developed fromfun
>>98515618Horse tails from warhammer fantasy or wherever
>>98518826Based and aware >>98516713>>98517167It's fine, the old FW world eater heads got that spartan greek look, I used some in my IW army.
>>98516934Cool, too bad no pics brb using imagination.
>>98518474it's a pretty good fit though it's a bit concave and also really demands some freehand or large transfers.
Just played my first game of 3.0 zone mortalis, was extremely fun. i think it does a really great job at getting the claustrophobic feel of CQB.also got a really kino pic from the game.i brought a very elite AL list vs a ridiculous DG list with two phosphex rapiers and a shit ton of normal termies. Lerneans went absolutely insane outfitted with banestrike combis on everyone. the final walls got off the printer literally ten minutes before the game so please forgive the lack of paint.
>>98519707those phosphex rapiers were shooting fish in a barrel, they each made 2x their points cost extremely easily.we both brought some jump units (my plasma thallax and his vet assault) and found them pretty fun to use despite the risk whenever we went full throttle. my forge lord turned the lights on just as my flanking firebase got into position, wiping out 25 tacs from two units shooting (thallax + lerneans)
Please give me constructive criticism for my first Legions Imperialis model. I did this all by brush and it makes me want to get a fullsized Typhon now.
>>98519707>>98519731those are some fine-ass pictures, Anon.
>>98519798You should have trimmed the sprue nubs betterotherwise it's fine and you should not buy a full sized typhon
>>98516513>And if/when armigers are in plastic, what then?You need around 9 of these little fuckers. They're cheap and they do comparable damage to knights, why do you think they need to slap on restriction on these fuckers if they weren't busted? Also I was wrong about the 60 for 3 price from GW, it's 60 for 2, you got a 3rd armiger which is the autocannon one and these motherfuckers suck.Anyway for AT knights (with or w/o armigers) are still useful as a way to make big titans move or force them to equip with melee or anti knights weapon which make them considerably less deadly. Otherwise it'd be pretty boring having 2 big titan sitting at the corner blasting the entire game.
Would it be silly to (when I get an Imperator) to have it be the Corinthian that's been tricked out by Vel-Kheredar into a Warmonger painted either in Audax colours or defaced Oberon colours.Since it's literally never mentioned again after Betrayer.
Nu MK4 inductii for the EC. Using some of those 40k parts.I do love my little degenerates. I have finished all 10 but forgot to take a photo of them all chilling
>>98520298What head is that? Looks pretty degen.
>>98520252wait what I thought the eternity gate was guarded by warhounds?
>give buddy titan princeps to paint >three months later and he still hasn't touched ithe's a cool dude but man he's a procrastinator
Is there any fluff information on the top speed of the various tanks and other vehicles used by the Astartes during the Heresy?
>>98520369one of my friends's graphics cards went kaput so I gave him my old one in exchange for helping me assemble a few squads of resin solar auxit took him four months to put together two guys and then he just gave me back the models and said he couldn't do ithe kept the gpu tho
>>98520481you could have demanded back your card, he didn't hold up his end, what a butthole.
The great debate.I'm only buying one.
Working on some freehand for my Grey Slayers, although I did just realize that the combat shield are going to completely cover the shoulder runes once they're glued on.
>>98520358yes but I just think that artwork is neat
>>98520804agreed its neat but my lore autism.
>>98520742if this box was released a decade ago it would have been one box not split in two, like the old baneblade.
>>98520742I'm gonna get myself a Glaive before the price hikeyeah, it's useless, but I like the XBAWKS HUEG gun
>>98520963I can't with horizontal Volkite.
>>98519603>I used some in my IW armypost some pics, dude
>>98520982that's just how we do it on Cthonia, brotha
>>98520388Closest thing is information about SM tanks in the old Imperial Armour books.
>>98520742Flip a coin, let fate decide
>>98520742That's a lot of fucking money for a chunk of plastic, damn. You guys just go along with this?
>>98521314The resin ones were even more expensive.
When liber antiquia
Would you want to play against plastic titans of the rumors turn out to be correct? Personally, I wouldn't welcome any plastic titans to my table because they basically take the "wow factor" away from the titans if just anyone can have one. I don't want to see any nu-slop titans in my 30k.
>>98521314No, printer go brrrrt.
>>98521382I've never seen a file for the big tanks. Smaller ones sure.
>>98521382>>98521389For mine eyes have seen the light...
>>98520742The falchion looks cooler. But the fellblade is better in basically every role.
>>98521368When you stop touching yourself.
>>98521402The glaive... exists. It doesent look as cool as the others and is also very mechanically niche.
>>98521377>because they basically take the "wow factor" away from the titans if just anyone can have one.Anon a titan is like $200. A plastic titan is going to cost more than a chinesium one anyways.
>>98521395Now you have me wondering if something like the reaver titan melta cannon would fit.
>>98520855The Baneblade kit went from having loose upgrades to just having them all in the box, and this year it's the sponsons that are being taken out with no price change to the core model, while being sold separately. Goddamn it, James.
>>98521395The kind of tank you have to get out of before firing its' main gun.
>>98521395>Titan plasma weapons are fed plasma straight from the titan's fusion reactor, because different methods to feed the weapon require too much power or other resources for a mobile combat platformThere's no realistic way this tank would ever be able to fire that thing.
>>98521402The Falchion is the astartes GOAT at titan hunting and is IMO as effective for engine kills as the Shadowsword. The Ascalon is cool too. Too bad they'd need to make a special flame template 3ft long to give it the flavour of the epic scale version.My most favourite uma delicia is titans and treads sharing weapons like shadowsword. stormlord, stormblade mecharius vulcan/omaga,and various neutron laser tanks. Reminds me of Brigador, Terra Nobra Must Fall
>>98521448Yup.
>>98521377>Would you play against an over priced model selling based on looks and not on performance.Sure, warhounds are kinda shit in HH now.
>>98521565>The Falchion is the astartes GOAT at titan hunting and is IMO as effective for engine kills as the ShadowswordWrong. Its about as good as the fellblade. Once accuracy is factored in it just doesent hit very hard. Certainly not for a tank that ONLY does this stuff.
>>98521553Park a half dozen of these behind it.
>>98521395>>98521566Titan CCW tank when?
>>98521407The fellblade looks like a shitty fucking command and conquer tank due to those dumbass fucking twin cannons. The falchion works with twin cannons because they are ENERGY WEAPONS and the model establishes that these two weapons take up so much space inside the hull that there is no turret, because they can't fit inside a turret, so it's casemate.The fellblade, meanwhile, has nonsensical interior proportions because it has two TANK CANNONS inside of a TURRET, that means it somehow fits TWO FUCKING CANNON ASSEMBLIES AND LOADING MECHANISMS INSIDE OF A TURRET WHEN IT WOULD BE MORE SPACE-EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE TO JUST PUT A SINGLE BIG GUN IN THERE. The only time it makes sense to put two or more cannons in the same turret is if it's intended to have some sort of AA function (think of the Sicaran). I mean, hell, I've seen fictional tanks that have two actual tank cannons in that configuration that are canonically nonsensical in-universe but plausible because they're two smaller sized tank cannons in an otherwise large turret (think two 76mm guns in an oversized turret and a large MBT hull, fitted to said oversized turret kind of like the AA guns on a Gepard) and designed to kill the shit out of more lightly armored targets than it rather than actually take on other equivalently-armored tanks (so in this example, the fellblade would have two...let's say vanquisher cannons that fire seperately for RoF benefit and would just kill the shit out of anything that isn't a superheavy). The glaive manages to avoid this entirely by actually just having a single gun in the turret (that's also an energy weapon). tl;dr the fellblade's duel cannon setup looks retarded because there's no way the massive accelerator cannons should both fit in there (accounting for loading mechanisms, assemblies etc), it'd be way more efficient if it just had a single larger accelerator cannon with a coaxial autocannon instead
>>98521570Neutron Lasers can absolutely wash void shields. Even the little cute version on the Sabre that leaks hard radiation like a soviet icebreaker can quickly burst a Reaver or even Warlord's voids if they can use their small size to ambush at point blank range. Imagine jack russell terriers making a polar bear die from ankle bloodloss.
>>98521630It is odd that no Knight / Titan scale walkers mount neutron weapons.
>>98521664I forgot about this guy, but to be fair, I was happier when I didn't remember it existed.
>>98521664Not really. Neutron weapons are still very experimental, in development weapon systems. Much easier to fit something like that on a tank chassis and adjust stuff as you go along, rather than trying to integrate it with a titan's more specialised systems. Also keep in mind that titans are basically walking, gun toting religious shrines to the mechanicum. You wouldn't bolt an experimental cannon to a church either.
>>98521628>due to those dumbass fucking twin cannons.Yea, thats the good part. Thats the reason the glaive looks so shit in comparison.
>>98521630>Neutron Lasers can absolutely wash void shieldsAs do fellblade accelerators and demolisher cannons. Except those functionally cant miss a titan while neutron lasers have the same 2/3 to hit as they do against anything else.
>>98521368Never? What makes you think it's coming out? It's been in development hell since 3.0 got released.
>>98521628Canonically each of the twin cannons can pen titans so no, it makes sense. A bigger gun would cut down the fire rate in less than half and overpen everything.
>>98521729They would not fit in the fucking turret. Each cannon requires seperate loading mechanisms in the turret, seperate recoil systems, seperate BREECHES, all in one turret. We've tried this shit IRL, every military that's done this has concluded "nope, this would be retarded and would compromise the tank" and just opted for bigger cannons instead. That's the reason it looks so fucking retarded, no tank would function like this.
>>98521628>a shitty fucking command and conquer tankOur glorious sensible tank design.Their degenerate childish nonsense.
>>98521756There are 28k years of tank development between now and 30k. If the fellblade exists then it's not a matter of "we've tried to fit two autoloaders in a turret and couldn't work it out" anymore, it's there, it exists and it's considered effective enough to be a sought after platform.
>>98521758>casemate mounted heavy SPG>guns are so big they needed to have them sticking out the rearhas more thought put into it than "OH LOOK IT HAS MAGICAL GUNS THAT CAN PENETRATE TITANS DESPITE BEING ON A CHASSIS THAT NORMALLY CAN ONLY FIT A SINGLE (casemate) TITAN-CLASS WEAPON THEM! AND THERE'S TWO IN ONE TURRET! SOMEHOW IT FITS THE LOADING MECHANISMS AND RECOIL SYSTEMS OF TWO OF THESE POWERFUL GOD-GUNS IN A TURRET THAT NORMALLY ONLY FITS A SINGLE BIG (LESS POWERFUL) GUN AND A COAXIAL AUTOCANNON! WAOW!"
>>98521775idk if you've actually seen a fellblade and a baneblade side-by-side anon but the fellblade has a turret that's at least 3x the size of the baneblade's and trades the smaller baneblade cannon w/coaxial autocannon with two slightly larger guns with no coax, they actually thought this shit out. It's not like the Halo grizzly, now THAT'S a retarded fuck-ass scifi tank design
>>98521770To add to my own post the fellblade family is also armoured with some asspull lightweight and high resistence material too according to the fluff which I don't recall seeing being mentioned anywhere else so if I wanted to focus on bad writing I would start with that.
>>98521775Yeah, and 40k tanks don't have suspension, the ground pressure on Titans would make any terrain softer than bedrock unviable, etc, etc.It's all toys for children. Calm down. There is no peace among the stars, and also no logic. If you keep demanding rigour from a setting that is not designed to provide it, it all you'll do is raise your blood pressure.
>>98521775Because bread tastes better than key.
>>98521686ARISE, CHICKEN! ARISE!
>>98521813Way back when somebody I knew actually did some calculations for the ground pressure of a warhound titan, and it would be lower than that of your average car. Rough maths because it needed a lot of assumptions about material and such, but still.
>>98521813LOOK OUT, LORD GUILLIMAN!!! THAT TITAN IS ABOUT TO STE-*squish*
>>98519731How are thallax? I was thinking 3 with multi melta and 3 with plasma or photon. I wanted a unit that can kill dreads and heavy/elite inf.
>>98521865*sigh*Decant another Guilliaman clone, Magos.
>>98521566Front of the tank should show paint damage and be outright charred. Next time have the barrel terminate past the body of the tank.
>>98521943Some other versions do that.
>>98521602They really should make an Ork LOW titan ccw tank. Call it ankle biter, give it a giant chain axe stapped haphazardly to the turret of a glaive chassis
>>98521965An ork LOW for a game with no orks?
>>98521664>>98521697Xana II was pumping out fresh knight armours during the heresy and would have been more than willing to experiment in that fashion.I do wonder... is there an example of a void shielded chassis using neutron weapons? Perhaps void shields react with neutron weapons in some way
>>98522003Not yet.
>>98521959In my head the barrel is so heavy it causes the tank to pitch forward awkwardly so they had to use gravc. Also because of sci fi space 'science' the barrel should get heavier during firing due to the extreme forces created by it. The microwaves and extreme heat cause gravitic phenomena or some shit
>>98522111> use grav plates on the back to fix the center of gravity
>>98522110More like never.
>>98522130We'll see, won't we?
>>98522143I can pull a Muzio Scevola and tell you with absolute certainty that 30k will never get orks.
>>98521628Shitting on the Apocalypse tank AND the Fellblade? Over “muh realism” no less, in our giant-violent-men space opera The Game?? You are gay as hell anon
>>98521664>>98521686
>>98521407the glaive is for deleting infantryit removes Infantry T6 or less 3+ save or worse 5/9 (except ogryns, because ogryns are cool; and it'll struggle a little more with automata and decimators and shit because they have the ++)it removes Infantry T6 or less 2+ save 1/11 except those with 3 or more Woundsit is absolutely very likely to occasionally wipe whole command squadswith 12 shots at 1/9 to glance AV14 it can even triplecunt your spartan full of slow melons quite happily while it texts ur mum about another butt stuff hookup and what're you gonna do, get out and waddle?it's the classic 2.5K obstacle, a knight-counter unit, with a turret main gun they had to keep decurions out of in case it really hurt someone's feeling several games running
>>98522370>the glaive is for deleting infantryYes. Except the fellblade can also do that, arguably better.
>>98522406I don't know, 12 shots at 5/9 with 5/6 on 5/9 of shots on top of that vs what, the same 5/9 on a single-shot 5" blast and no secondary? you can gamble on deleting a melon ball a turn with the AE but that's still only 5/18 with a 4++ and the 3" blast just isn't going to hit that many guysfellblades are for fucking heavy tanks and small titans and nothing in between, you're still better off with the volkite vs almost any knight
>>98520526eventually he gave me a bunch of genuine FW stuff over the years, idk how much was related to the gpu but I didn't want to blow up the friendship over a shitty card from 2017
>>98522506>you're still better off with the volkite vs almost any knightNo you are not. The glaive has a S8 cardanelle with 12 shots. 8 hits vs a knight, knights are AV13 (outside the little guys). Glancing on 5s penning on 6s. So thats an average of 12*2/3*1/6*2/3*2 + 12*2/3*1/6*2/3*1/3~ HP done to a knight. Or around 2. And maybe a status in there somewhere. The glaive does not do anything worthwhile to vehicles, it will struggle to kill a rhino. 12*2/3*1/3*2 = 5.13. Meaning that if the rhino smokes you will on average fail to kill it. Meanwhile: the fellbladeIt functionally cant miss (blast weapon). S12 so 2s to pen.5/6*2/3*6*2 (once for the fellblade, once for the demolisher) = 6.67 HP to a knight., 8HP to a AV14 without an invuln.Now: For infantry. The glaive kills around 8.5 marines per shot, slightly less for vets. 12*2/3*5/6+12*2/3*5/6*5/6*1/3. The fellblades impact depends heavily on how spaced out the enemy is, but assuming perfect 2" spacing its arund 6~ hits between its weapons killing on 2s for 5 dead. It does significantly less into 2+ save infantry. Killing around one terminator (or dealing one wound to a custodian) with negligible deflag impact because 2+ armor. The AE shell will significantly outperform it here. So no, it is not "absolutely very likely to wipe whole command squads", because it simply bounces off 2+ armor. It is a tank made essentially solely for killing MEQ and VEQ (a thing the fellblade also does just fine) that does fuck all else. The only other thing it can do is kill big demons, automata and armigers, because theyre also 3+ save or worse (but once again: the fellblade does this job fine too).
How do you put decals on the shoulders of heavy weapons?
>>98518474nah, planning on using them on some old chaos termies
>>98522150>30k will never get orksnta, but they can be easily proxied with Militia provenances. Hint: All Beast Snaggas boyz come with chainaxes.
>>98522150Not him but on a long enough time frame a lot of things happenBy like 6th edition they'll have reached the bottom of the barrel and we'll get Orks or Eldar
>>98522739Couple option you can use in combination:1. Precut the transfer. You probably won't get it perfect but you can fix it with later steps.2. Microsol & microset. Apply the transfer, position it, then use decal softener to soften the fuck out of it. Then just scrape off the bits you don't need. Make sure you've got a layer of varnish underneath the transfer so you don't damage your paint job.3. Paint over what you don't want. If after applying the transfer its partly covering the gun, just paint over those spots.Personally I use 1 & 2.
>>98522880>Just proxy them>Just write a fan codex>Just use Panoptica's0.0
>>98522880The problem with xenos in 30k, is that 40k refugees would prefer to use their 40k minis as they are, which dillutes the game into an alternate 40k.Rules for Xenos in the GC/HH should be done in a distinct way, much like what FW did with Daemons of the Ruistorm.So no classic funny clan orks, eldar and dark eldar. Absolutely no Nids, Necrons, or Tau. Even if some of these were actually around in 30k.Yes to scary orks, eldar corsairs, exodites, and whatever exotic stuff can be kitbashed from GW kits.>>98522932See above. Militia rules are fine for orks if you know what you're doing.
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>98522954>if you know what you're doing.Even with official rules I only know what I'm doing half the time :^)Rolling to see if this is part of my plan
>>98523094>4
>>98522954>no classic funny clan orks,I mean, there's no clan Orks in 40k either. It's all Detachment this detachment that, no more subfaction per se x.x>eldar and dark eldar.No KABAL dark Eldar, but yes Aristocratic dark eldar. As for Craft worlds (and now Exodites), they had already escaped, and had centuries between the birth of Slaanesh and the start of the Great Crusade to organize themselves >Absolutely no Nids, Necrons, or Tau. Even if some of these were actually around in 30k.Booo @ (You). It was a time of legend.
>>98523122>Nobody cared who I was until I put on the mask
>>98522954I've said this before but xenos in HH should only ever be great crusade themed.not just orks and eldar again. That's hard to implement though. They would have to be broad lost and damned kind of pick and mix lists where you can make your own faction of various aliens, humans etc. otherwise you'd have a bunch of xenos army lists that are shallow and boring despite comprising a stupid amount of model kitsImo it would only work in Ligma because it could be done without an unreasonable amount of kits because each box has several different units enough to encompass them. 1 box each for races like Hrud, Laer, Megarachnids, nipple rats of Shasta Prime etc.a box for techobarbarians and xenos loving humans and some vehicles.It's feasible if Ligma got a little more resources but I don't see how that could be done in HH without it swamping the entire setting.
>>98523171>Unknown and Myriad nondescript xenosMilitia lists could indeed work for those. Or Ruinstorm. You'd just need to come up with fluff text. But I think you could have that AND the usual 40k xenos.Including Tyranids (Megarachnids) and Tau (High tech xenos). The Count As is strong in this one.
do any of you guys remember the fanmade xenos book an anon here made for 2.0? it was pretty cool, i wish i had it saved. If any of you have it id love to download it.
>>98523171Orks and eldar were literally in 1989's Space Marine, which was set during the HH.
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>>98522954>Rules for Xenos in the GC/HH should be done in a distinct way, much like what FW did with Daemons of the Ruistorm.yeah I agree with this 100%>So no classic funny clan orksYeah, I agree with this, but this mostly comes down to not using 40k clan color schemes and kitbashing regular ork kits to look a bit scarier. Certain modern ork units would need some form of replacement - the fluff implies that ork walkers were inspired by Imperial counterparts, so I can definitely see ork dreadnoughts (the ork warlord who nearly killed the Emperor was basically a gigantic cyborg ork walker with six arms), maybe even killa kans, but no gorkanauts or morkanauts. And they'd be limited in numbers, since Dread Mobs are a later invention. Same goes for Flash Gitz, Tankbustas, Lootaz, Speed Freaks (though ork bikes, warbuggies/wartrakks, trukks and battlewagons would certainly exist). I also really doubt that Beast Snaggas would be a thing since those seem to be a manifestation of Snakebitez culture (though they can come from any clan, like speed freakz or lootas), but Squiggoths might make sense to exist. Might be best to kitbash fantasy orc kits with ork kits to really make them work.>eldar By the time of the Heresy, the Phoenix Lords had already standardized much of the craftworlders' military structure, I really wouldn't expect them to fight all that much differently than their 40k incarnation aside from maybe using less wraith constructs. We've got Heresy novels where aspect warriors, guardians etc show up, though. Maybe there would be more corsairs and exodites in their army.I'll continue in another reply
Plastic Warhound titan for 30k
>>98521314WAY cheaper on ebay fren. around $160 vs $210+tip+tariff+israel first taxes or whatever it is...
>>98522954Continued from >>98523928>and dark eldar. Dark Eldar absolutely were conducting raids during the Great Crusade/HH era, but they wouldn't really be super recognizable compared to their M41 counterparts because Vect wasn't in control of society yet and hadn't restructured it, so this is where you'd probably see the most uniqueness. Little to no haemonculi shit, no mandrakes, no wyches, just proto-kabalites running around with splinter weapons and dark lances killing, torturing and abducting people, maybe with some more unique era-specific stuff included with them, like proto-incubi and maybe more fantasy druchii-inspired stuff, like Khainite cults that predate Vect's Dark Muses, dark eldar who ride exodite dragons ala cold one riders, etc. One thing you'd definitely see are Dark Eldar using psychic powers - using psychic powers wasn't banned amongst the Dark Eldar until Vect. Hell, these could be outright fucking Chaos Eldar trying to worship Slaanesh, with a note that these guys were wiped out for causing too many daemonic incursions in Commorragh when Vect rose to power in later millennia. Chaos Eldar is also an oldhammer concept, which HH likes to tap into a lot, I can definitely see Chaos-worshipping proto-drukhari assisting the Word Bearers, for instance.>Absolutely no Nids, Necrons, or Tau. Even if some of these were actually around in 30k.Agreed, 100%>Yes to scary orks, eldar corsairs, exodites, and whatever exotic stuff can be kitbashed from GW kits.Basically what I already said. Forgot to mention chaos worshipping orks, that sounds thematic for the Heresy. Could even have them carry Eye of Horus banners and be not-uruk-hai, with the narrative excuse that they're trying to imitate Horus's legions because of the desolation they've inflicted, which inspires the orks.
>>98523138Irn wthn bruv
huh?why wouldn't I pay the extra 10 bucks for 2 entire extra tanks?
>>98524166Because you don't need 4 tanks?
>>98524198>not splitting it with a friend>not selling the extras to recoup the costscome on anon
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>>98524166Where the fuck is THAT deal at???
>>98522007>Xana II was pumping out fresh knight armours during the heresy and would have been more than willing to experiment in that fashion.I'd like to mount an Irrad Blaster on a Knight-sized chassis, but I'm not sure which one would fit best. It's a 16" range 5" blast, so maybe the Cerastus, conceptually?
Would it be too jarring to have more clean battletech hopeful sci fi buildings like pic related in a table that's meant to be the Capital of an Ultramar world about to be flattened by the shadow crusade?I mean not exactly like pic related but a lot more prefab. Sort of like a super upmarket soviet closed city for like nuclear bomb engineers where it's still commie blocks but with aesthetic elements like tree lined streets and the beautiful Plaza of Unity. I basically just mean the battletech big blue windows and pale brick aesthetics instead of gothic aesthetic for boxy imperial prefab buildings (and the parks and shit)
>>98524521Yeah, I don't see why not. Ultramar is supposed to be a cleaner, higher-functioning section of the Imperium - the only thing is that it architecturally has a bit more of a romanesque influence. The Imperium at large seems to slowly homogenize into hive-slum superstructures and Gothic architecture en masse over the course of the 10000 years after the Heresy.
>>98524521Yeah why not? The heresy is supposed to be the end of the Imperium's golden age, it would make more sense for the cities to be nicer than the megaslums we see in 40k.
>>98524521Of course not. The Great Crusade came acorss loads of worlds, all different. Even in 40k you can have incredible amounts of architectural differences.In fact the split between Legio Vulpa and Solaria happened when the former destroyed a city that was described as being made of glass which is pretty fitting for our modern skyscrapers so even today's buildings could fit.
>>98524511>Cerastus Knight Alekto>Kokytus irradiation blaster>Andemeter phosphex projector
>>98524521It'd be nice to add some sort of feet-of-clay contrast to the buildings. It's still the grim darkness of the far future. So there's a marble facade, but there's a damaged building showing its interior. Utilitarian elements behind the decor. Or, if you are going with a purely utopian sci-fi aesthetic, put a crashed Thunderhawk or something in there.
>>98524511I'd say questoris. The cerastus (atrapos aside) had fairly regular stuff the funky shit went on the questoris.
>>98524590I guess I've got to build one now.
>>98524606split the difference and use the chaos knight digigrade legs.
>>98522679Ok I wouldn't end it either if he gave you stuff before, thanks for clearing that up.
>>98522739Put it on the other pad, don't use a stud ofc
>>98522954>No fun allowedNids and tau didn't exist, but the other races are fine. You could use nid rules to represent the big spider thingies that killed BAngels on Murder.King Fluff or whoever made rules for them back in 1.0 as well as other xenos.
>>98524613Tempting...
>>98523138>It doesn't matter who we are >What matters is our plan
