>>98514846
Not sure if replying to post from another thread actually works
Okay yeah your stance makes perfect sense now. You belief exp is a in universe. Where I assumed it was mostly a game mechanic.

That and I assumed it be easier to gain if it was in universe. But your likey right that without a kind gm, getting the first few levels would be killer.

Through another concept matching my intent of the thought would be Shoenen anime.

Do you assume your jumper if they end up in bleach, one piece, Naruto has the talent to rise beyond the mooks Mc punch out left and right.

On another note, has anyone heard of the world tree rpg. I kind of hope it gets a jump someday but I lack the skills to make a jump for it yet.

>>98515160
>On another note, has anyone heard of the world tree rpg. I kind of hope it gets a jump someday but I lack the skills to make a jump for it yet.
Yes. I wasn't on planning to make a jump for it, but now that I know the curse-begging SBer wants a jump for it, I'll stay even further away from it.

Also, to anyone who doesn't already know about it: It's furfaggotry.

>>98515065
Goddamn, seeing this poor squashed version of the title instead of the big PDF we used to have is depressing.

The way Dylan just flies up cliffs ass-first in Control: Resonant bodes poorly for the game, as if the clunky-ass bossfights and the way gameplay seems like DMC if Dante went through every game drunk weren't bad enough.

>This is Jumpchain related
In a highly technical sense, everything that happens in the Control games is an upscale for the perks in the Alan Wake jump.

3.5 FR D&D & BoEF

Drawbacks: That Guy (+200), Short Attention Span (+200), Solo Campaign (+200)
Origin: Erotic (Free)
Race: Nymph (-350)
Templates: Seelie Court Fey (Free), Ghost (-100), Evolved Undead (Free), Haunting Ghost (Free), Sagacious Ghost (Free)

>A race with a CR of 0 or 1 is free but 2+ isn't
>Templates and the like may be added with the same restrictions
I am assuming this means CR +0 or +1 templates are free and +2 or higher templates need to be purchased. Although technically because Evolved Undead is a CR +1 template and can be acquired multiple times unlike most others, this means you can apply it repeatedly for free for arbitrarily high Strength, Charisma, AC and Fast Healing, plus a bunch of spell-like abilities as a cherry on top kek.

Starting Location: Silverymoon
Class Level: Bard 1, Gestalt Beguiler 1 // Sha'ir 1 (-350?)
Origin Perks: Universal Appearance (Free), True Submissive (Free), Enticing Aura (-100), Metamagic Manipulation (-100), You Start in a Brothel (-200), Divine Consort (-300), Academic of Mystra (-100)
Items: Celestial Argentum Breastplate +2 (Free), Books of Eroticism (Free)
Endgame: The Epilogue (Move On)

Tried making a sexy nerd ghost. Was thinking of taking Quasi-Demigod but it seems like a bunch of its benefits can be replicated just by going undead.

>>98515756
Starting as a ghost in a brothel has some pretty horrific implications for the brothel.

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>>98515756
>I am assuming this means CR +0 or +1 templates are free
+0 Templates are free, but every choice for your race contributes towards your total CR. So, Evolved is +1 and Ghost +2. Also, Unseelie Court Fey is from Dragon 304 whereas only 309-364 are in play. 309 marks the first Dragon for 3.5.

I need to make some clarifications, I think.
>Class levels up to Class Level 10 cost 50CP.
>but a Challenge Rating of 2-10 costs 50CP per point of Challenge Rating.
This is supposed to work the same way, which is to say a Class Level of 10 and Challenge Rating of 10 should only cost 450 each because the first of both is free. Nymph would only cost you 300CP. I don't blame you for getting the race part wrong because I think I've been doing it wrong in my own builds, kek. I'm just an 'tard for copying my racial build from the original 3.5 Forgotten Realms D&D Jump. I should update my two versions to make these points clearer, but I'm worried about fucking up the formatting. I'll look at it later.

As such, your overall build is 450 + 350 + 100 + 100 + 200 + 300 + 100 = 1,600. You don't actually have to choose anything different, just dropped the Unseelie Court Fey Template.

An Appearance of 34 after you read the Tome of Beauty is definitely appropriate for a Ghost Nymph.
>but it seems like a bunch of its benefits can be replicated just by going undead.
A number of them, yeah. I didn't give the Erotic origin a Mind Blank item, so I had to find a way to give it an equivalent. It would also depend on which parent you choose for Quasi-Demigod. Damage Reduction 10 / Epic is like constantly being armored in the best armor, and a Spell Resistance of 32 means a 20th-level caster will only have their magic affect you 45% of the time.
>>98515955
This, too.

>>98516063
Seelie Court Fey and Unseelie Fey are templates that appear in Dragon Compendium (the source for multiple class options in the jump), shouldn't that make them perfectly "legal" for a 3.5 build? Also thanks for clarifying.
>I didn't give the Erotic origin a Mind Blank item, so I had to find a way to give it an equivalent.
I feel like Boots of Authority might be among the origin's best items when combined with its perks, just because it makes it extremely hard or nearly impossible for most creatures to even attempt hostilities against you, but unfortunately I could not fit it into my build. Mystic Piercing is probably best used only with certain high level spells that don't have material/exp costs like Time Stop, and BoEF itself seems so-so.
>>98515955
Hey, it might be a monster girl brothel.

>>98515160
I am actually glad that you replied because I really wanted to say sorry again. I was an asshole last thread and a bit of a hypocrite too.
I really hate when jumps place arbitrary limits upon jumpers when they are not a part of the setting. I also hate it when a jump tries to force you to play a certain way and here is where my hypocrisy comes in. You play the way you want, it's your game. You saw a limit as a guarantee that you could at least reach that level. That's fine.
I think we have different views on potential. While I will give you that we all learn at different rates and not everyone is a genius at learning everything, I don't think there is ever a true cap. I do believe learning does become a matter of diminishing returns. You can learn a lot in the beginning because you know nothing but as you go on and it become refining what you know it becomes harder and takes longer to the point where I suppose that yes, it becomes almost impossible to advance. Humans only get so long.

Now as for Shoenen anime. I don't believe that the Jumper is usually deemed bad at learning whatever the thing is without a drawback. I don't know if you can ever out-shoenen a shoenen protagonist with just what's in the jump document without a particularly strong build, though maybe those aren't so hard to put together depending on the jump.

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>>98516381
>that appear in Dragon Compendium
Fuck me, you're right. I have a pdf that contains all (guess not) Templates, and when I couldn't find Unseelie I searched Realms Help. Realms Help has it listed from the Dragon magazine, not the Dragon Compendium. You're correct. I did notice that Seelie has a +1 Challenge Rating adjustment, and for Unseelie between Environment and Alignment where the Challenge Rating should be listed, it's not there. That seems like a publishing error, because if it was +0 it would say that, not be removed entirely. If you want Unseelie, that pushes your Challenge Rating to 11, meaning you owe 100CP, but if you want to RAW that it was a deliberate choice because it was at the end of the page and they needed space, I could almost believe it. That’s some rules-lawyer-ass shit.
>Boots of Authority might be among the origin's best items when combined with its perks
Yeah, True Submissive, Enticing Aura, and Boots of Authority basically give you three chances to end combat before it begins.
>Mystic Piercing is probably best used only with certain high level spells
It's the 'fuck you' option. Anything that normally allows Spell Resistance. Binding Chain of Fate, Maze, Antimagic Field, Prismatic Sphere, Plane Shift, etc.
>BoEF itself seems so-so.
It's alright. I'm surprised nobody has made a companion with Sacred Prostitute yet. Getting all your spell slots back once per day is broken. There's a couple broken spells, too. The Bustier of Epic Beauty & Charisma +12 is priced at 400CP because Beauty's Caress exists.

>>98516595
I think it because it obscure enough that no one knows of it op nature.

>>98516490
Yeah, I also made a bit of ass on myself last thread.

I totally agree with you on jumpchain arbitrary limit suck. You’re telling me I can walk in the place as a power copying, uncapped eldritch horror that eaten countless world. And yet I can still not bend the rules of the setting.

I also tend to prefer it if anything that looks like, a drawback falls off post jump. Mainly that be passive side effects of the power like how Dresden wizards do not get along with tech. Through I also would be tempted to grant that effect to a power who side effects of active use leave it virtually unusable for jumper.

I do agree that learning is a matter of diminishing returns.

To be a bit nitpicky, I say it less jumper is bad at shoenen and more that jumper is painfully average. Unfortunately average in many setting sucks.

>>98515449
Their is also a control jump, through do not recall if that TG.


Got banned from spacebattles jumpchain thread because I mentioned I was insulted on TG.

>>98516829
>To be a bit nitpicky, I say it less jumper is bad at shoenen and more that jumper is painfully average. Unfortunately average in many setting sucks.

Shoenen is kind of a weird genre. It's as much about attitude as about ability. The plucky guy who doesn't let anything stop him winds up succeeding part because he is the protagonist and part because he would rather die than give up, and hell let's be honest for most protagonists even dying probably wouldn't stop them.
I tend to view the jump itself as giving the Jumper at least decent ability to be good at whatever the jump is about. However generally I don't think it can give you the attitude to be willing to risk it all to improve. A good work around though is a mix of learning perks and willpower perks. Willpower by the way is undervalued. A lot of people love it but not enough, it helps you get off your ass and do the things you need to do to be able to do what you want to do.
It should also be noted my jumpers are very motivated by fear. They know that at the end of the chain waits either some stupid dragon ball z/gt/super level challenge or something even worse. The knowledge that if you fuck around too much you aren't going to be able to make it does wonders for getting you doing what you need to do.

Shard, if you did a DnD jump, what game/setting/faction/race would you use?

>>98516595
I don't mind dropping Evolved Undead from my build and replacing it with Seelie Court Fey which appears more useful and I personally like it more, they're both +1 CR so it shouldn't affect the point cost. Besides, according to Libris Mortis undead can spontaneously acquire Evolved Undead just by existing long enough (and keep stacking it).
>It's the 'fuck you' option. Anything that normally allows Spell Resistance.
If it allows metamagicked spells, I can see the potential for more fun. (Ranged Shivering Touch for the dragon bullying?)
>The Bustier of Epic Beauty & Charisma +12 is priced at 400CP because Beauty's Caress exists.
Too bad the bonus types don't stack now I guess. Also, that spell sounds perfect with Permanency.

>>98516995
>If it allows metamagicked spells
As per the wording used in the BoEF that I based it on, I would say no. That's not to say you couldn't just make a new spell.
>according to Libris Mortis undead can spontaneously acquire Evolved Undead just by existing long enough
I've noted this myself. Larloch is at like a 20+% chance to have the Template.

>>98516958
I personally think their a lot of people who risk anything to approve in shonen and they get no progess.

I cannot help but picture their 100 people just as hard working, brave and so on as the main characters. But they do not have the main character talent, destiny. So they get one tenth the returns if they are lucky.

MC learn in days what takes others years. Naruto could learn the rasengen (a rank jutsu) in three days. bleach major character can learn partial Bankai in three days where normal guys never learn it.

So yeah, altitude matters, but not as much as the talent.

>>98516381
>Hey, it might be a monster girl brothel.
D&D is a lot of things but I don't think it's quite whimsical enough to have a monster girl brother, unless you start in Ravenloft, you take THAT drawback, and also your chain is being written by Critical Role for that wholesome chungus vibe

I'm not saying Ed isn't a man of culture, I'm just saying he was born too late to even write monstergirl brothels into his setting. As a man of the times he was generally gnarlier about his fetishes, with the drow breastmilk and womb knife fights and all.

>>98516829
>control jump
Yeah I think it's from SB, from what I can tell it's not horrendous but bad experiences have demotivated me from going there when all the real power of the setting is in Alan Wake anyway.

>Got banned from spacebattles
>because
Huh? Do they have "no cross-community drama" rules too?

>>98516962
I'm not putting my trip on for this because it's not relevant to my jumps but

>game
Neverwinter Nights 2
>setting
The Sword Coast, see above
>faction
None are worthy of me.
>race
Oh you're letting me choose ANY race, are you now? Phaerimm. It's time for the Spirit Eater Curse 2: This Time, It's Personal. Vecna can get it too once I'm done eating the non-powergaming gods.

>>98518719
*monster girl brothel

>>98517261
>So yeah, altitude matters, but not as much as the talent.

That is a fair point. MCs are kind of bullshit. Yeah I can't argue that talent matters a lot in those worlds. If you can master moves that takes years in a few days, you going to outpace pretty much everyone else. If you can't you better hope you have some good Out of Context Bullshit or you are going to be stuck in side character hell.

I haven't been active in this thread since pdfs stopped being postable. How are new jumps shared now?

>>98518910
Some people put them on something called catbox. Some people use something like Google Docs to give a link. There is always the Driveanon's drive, you can generally find the new stuff. Generally dropping a new jump involves some link to somewhere else

I had a big reply. But this site decided it was spam. So yeah they got a rule vs it.

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>>98518929
Thanks.

Alright everyone, Dragon Kings has taken forever to come out do to a combination of 4chan dying killing my momentum and then taking forever to getting around to polishing it because while I have added more stuff since then, 90% of it has been completed for months.

Dragon Kings: https://files.catbox.moe/mzwsg3.pdf

Also, a Beast update: https://files.catbox.moe/cnupxh.pdf

Change log:
>More typos and formatting stuff.
>RIP Codex of Darkness
>Refrain Perk added.
>Jumper’s Contract option added.
>Added to Brood Mother that Horrorspawn can count as Followers.
>Hero Incarnate Scenario added. I wasn’t going to add one originally because it’s not a real thing, but I’ve had ideas for it since before the Jump was made.
>Added a tiny bit of detail to the A Purpose Scenario.
>Altered Modern Day Heracles so you can choose just to lose your powers and items instead.
>Added From the Vault as a Drawback.
>Added a Translation Guide Drawback. This was actually always possible to a lesser extent with Toolbox Setting, but I might as well make it explicit and expand the possibilities since I’m already going full homebrew with the Hero Incarnate.

>>98518884
Indeed what scares me the most is not how quickly they learn but how high they can reach. I think a lot of characters in setting would hit diminishing returns where they mastered something just as much as they talent for. This would happen at the same point a main character decides to lock in and increase in strength a 100 times over 24 hours.

Look at in demon slayer how centuries old immortal beings, are having trouble with a random kid. Or xianxia novels where a character gets trapped in a bottleneck where as the Mc reaches levels no one else knew existed.

>>98518910
I've just been putting copies into USBs and attaching them to birds.
>>98518960
The limit is 2,000 words, and you sometimes can't say things like 8 chan, R*ddit or R*dditor.

>>98519005
well generally while I do believe that most jumps give you pretty good talent for whatever your learning, Yeah the main characters remain pure bullshit.
Fight like Batman would, cheat your ass off, if it's a battle you can't win conventionally be smarter, maybe if there is a guy you are afraid of in a jump because he gets insanely powerful, you beat him before he reaches full power. If you can't catch up to the main character's absurd level, make the main character work for you. Also there is an ability in Fate Stay Night that lets you grow and copy one character per jumps abilities, it's based on Shirou's connection with Archer, if you are worried take that and copy the main character's potential. They will know you are doing it but if you are doing it for a good reason they won't care. Especially if you are actively helping them grow which helps you grow.

>>98518996
Nice.

>>98519043
Thanks, through that rule is stupid.

>>98518996
Cool, I will have to check that out. Beast is such a an awkward wod splat. It concept sounds cool. In practice it is otherkin fantasy as made by a sexual predator.

Do you ever think you make any jumps for WOD fansplats, dragon the embers seems cool. Through I dislike it punishes you for eating people. A proper dragon should find knights crunchy and tasty with ketchup.

What are your thoughts on an exalted mortal jumps that not a gauntlet?

>>98515187
I mean I guess it furry. But the furries felt more like aliens than a love letter to the fur community. The writers put a lot of work in giving each race an alien mindset so no race thinks like a humans. Is known space furry because it has cat aliens?

>>98518996
From The Vault is missing a price.

Reading over fear and hunger jump, and if is a bit weird. It has mandatory drawback, adds stuff to your body mod.

Through the perks are flavorful. I also love the idea of hitting the setting better prepared than most of the Mc. Something like gurps dungeon fantasy could do a lot to prep you.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11z3r6_rIYxCHmY5qGmi8Gznmvim5Zc9t/view?usp=sharing

>>98519118
Beast definitely has a lot of problems. I made the jump as a love letter to the CofD and I didn't like the other Beast jump. I also don't despise Beast, and like certain elements of it like Lairs. Under different circumstances, it could've been an alright game about boogeymen.

Funnily enough, I actually read a freelancer's insight into its development who worked on it, and McFarland was really hands-off besides from the last minute Kickstarter draft rewrite. He didn't even come up with Beast, he was just ask to develop it do to doing reliable work. Then again, the rewrite is where a lot of the abuse apologia came from, so that might not be too surprising.

Apparently, it was a huge mess because a bunch of the freelancers were amateurs and nobody communicated. It's why you get shit like Heroes being one dimensional and based off Gaston and Beasts being a metaphor for oppressed groups without the book realizing it makes said groups look really bad.

While I like some of them, none of the fan splats really grab me but Leviathan, and its Jump is good enough for me. I'm not interested in doing a Mortal Jump either. I can understand wanting one, but personally the Mortal Hero Gauntlet is one of my favorite jumps.

>>98519213
I don't think that's one of ours. I brought it up before, and someone scolded me for it. I was about to say making a Fear & Hunger 2 Jump could be neat, but it fits the Gauntlet format more than the Jump one, and people would complain.

>>98519122
Damn it.

Beast v2.2: https://files.catbox.moe/38nw88.pdf

>>98519217
I call bullshit. That's just the freelancers trying to save their own reputations. Beast isn't bad because "nobody communicated." It's exactly what it was supposed to be: a pathetic attempt to recapture the 2010s otherkin crowd the way oChangeling had in the 90s by parroting buzzwords. ("Hello fellow Tumblr posters, gee that Gamergate sure does suck!")

>>98519255
I have no way to say for certain, but I personally believe it because it would've been a lot easier to blame it all on McFarland.

>>98518996
Exceedingly Based!

>>98519217
Makes sense to me.

I like the Leviathan jump asides from jt lack of detail what happens post jump. I rather not spend the rest of the chain with a mind rape aura and going insane if I fail to watch my morality meter.

You can say it a altform, but a shapeshifting power set that resembles humanity does not scream alt form to me. You can say it easy enough to fix with ocp, which would be a very fair point. But it bugs me.

However it is awesome to really channel that eldritch horror energy. To manipulate a cult made of broken people. Turn into a giant sea monster. Fight the evil sorcerers and their naive mad scientist minons. Dive the unknown depths and conduct rituals.

I also have this idea of a leviathan who little sister is a princess the hopeful magical girl. Their so much fun drama there.

>>98519213
Nobody fucking asked.

>>98519229
Yes, this is the dyslexic SBer who keeps bringing up jumps from the non-human communities as though they're somehow relevant to us.

>>98519882
He got banned on sb which is why he showed up here.

>>98519904
I showed up here, and than got banned from SB

>>98519882
You’re not allowed to think about jumps on this sites? What is the point of this thread anyway.

>>98519946
You're allowed to think about jumps, even those from other communities. But you shouldn't make a habit of bringing up jumps from other communities because they by definition have not been accepted by us; and there is no actual rule pertaining to this, but you should expect it to cause friction, especially as you seem incapable of making your identity less conspicuous. The point of this thread is to discuss chains and jumps from this community.

chainbutt whenever you get a jump that someone writefagged in, flip a coin to decide whether your jumper appears exactly at the moment the last jumper leaves that world (at your chosen starting location) and you have to clean up their fucking mess (if they left one)

>>98520269
I don't quite get it exactly why the coin flip is necessary. I wouldn't turn down a chain like this but I would prefer to do my own thing. Also there are not a ton of Writefaggings around that aren't like 1 or 2 paragraphs long.

>>98520289
I had the same thought as soon as I typed it out, so I flipped a coin to decide whether I should omit it or not. I might have a problem

>>98519946
This thread is for the community that stayed loyal to 4chan when the rest left for the bunker. If you aren't from this community then you aren't welcome here and the same applies for jumps. This also holds true for jumps which were made here but the jumpmaker left for other communities, but that is less reinforced except in cases where the jumpmaker is hated. It has always been a known rule that jumps from other communities are not to be brought up. If you want to discuss jumps from other communities then go to Reddit.

>>98520348
>This also holds true for jumps which were made here but the jumpmaker left for other communities
Wrong. We keep the jump regardless of their wishes.

>>98520348
>It has always been a known rule that jumps from other communities are not to be brought up.
Except on occasion for the sole purpose of shitting on them.

>>98520365
We keep the jump because no one is allowed to change the drive, but bringing up the jump is never encouraged except to shit on the jumpmaker.

>>98520376
That requires way too much awareness of community drama bullshit. It only matters in circumstances of notoriety.

>>98520401
Notoriety is about the only times it comes up anyways. No one is going to bother bringing up the jumps normally since they're shit. In any case unless someone is a complete newfag, most people would know by osmosis the worst jumpmakers like Bancho and Dirge since they're the ones that are immediately and consistently brought up when the question is asked.

>>98518719
>and also your chain is being written by Critical Role for that wholesome chungus vibe
Is it weird that I don't really know anything about Critical Role? Except for the fact that people complain about it bringing lots of normalfags into D&D and tabletop.

>>98520348
Okay, through I thought fear and hunger was from TG for some reason. I had a brain fart.

>>98518996
Should we take this as an affirmation that you have basedly decided to deliberately forswear the bunker?

>>98519112
>>98519329
Thanks

>>98519462
>like the Leviathan jump asides from jt lack of detail what happens post jump. I rather not spend the rest of the chain with a mind rape aura and going insane if I fail to watch my morality meter.
Yeah, that's always annoying. Also, the Leviathan and Princess jumps actually gave me an idea for a Leviathan developing an Evolution based around attempting to create a version of the Dreamlands in the Tempest because he thinks Leviathans need hope more than anything.

>>98520443
I've been out of the loop for a long time and never really paid attention to what other people were doing even before that, so I don't actually know what they did. Unless one of them was that guy who would constantly melt down, leave, come back, repeat, a few years back.

>>98520604
It took me a second to remember what you were even talking about. I heard about it but never saw what was going on with it. I figured 4chan would eventually come back and I would just finish what I was working on then.

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>>98520299
How about this for a coin flip Chainbutt?

Chainbutt, you get a chain, congratulations. You may choose your jumps as normal and start where you wish but for each Jump flip a coin. Should it land on heads the jump is the standard universe. Things are as you expect. However should the result come up tails, you landed in an alternate universe. Something unexpected is different. Perhaps one of the main heroes or villains chose a different affiliation, perhaps a major event that changed the setting to be as it was never happened or perhaps a major event that you were not expecting did happen. What ever the case the world was shaped in vastly different fashion and now your canon knowledge is possibly slightly wrong. Good Luck Jumper.

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Lo: Between Two Fires is done. Enjoy your mudcore religious horror.

>What is the powerlevel of this place?
Berserk level. More or less Berserk level. Except God (who is good) holds all the cards.

>>98520594
I watched a few clips from it, decided it wasn't my thing, and moved on. Much of /tg/ didn't and I kinda absorbed a lot of what was "wrong" about it from there. It's not exactly my cup of tea, I will always be more of a Baldur's Gate 1-2/NWN kind of guy at heart for my D&D, but while I don't see it as my personal TTRPG nemesis (my hatred is fully occupied by the incompetent Exalted 3e developers) I do understand intellectually some of the more repeated objections.

Apparently the new D&D movie is very similar to it in vibe? I didn't like that one either even though the CGI is objectively great by modern day standards, it was just a bit too...lackadaisical. I mean, the really old D&D movies had comedy too but THIS in your face.

>>98519272
Have to say I'm pretty cynical about developers passing the buck myself because to date nobody has ACTUALLY owned up to the blame for how Infernals 2e's initial chapters were written, it's always "someone else's fault" and "department miscommunication" with no specifics so I'm kinda used to corporate chicanery from White Wolf/OPP.

But we'll never know the truth after how FUBAR'd this thing was anyway.

Anyway, ultimately I'm fine with Beast the basic splat concept, but even watered down I severely dislike the extremely pretentious Beast "teaching lessens is ontologically good regardless of my qualifications" worldview. That and the line's presumption that Changelings wouldn't hate these guys as much as True Fae.

Grateful you're still picking away at the jump, though.

>>98518996
>Incarnate Scenario
Huh. I basically did this in my chain anyway when I decided to make the most of being a Beast by becoming the ur-Ugly Bastard.

>>98520691
>Leviathan
Also speaking of Leviathan, I just /cannot/ overlook the fact that I feel Leviathan does the gimmick Beast tries to better. On every level. Simply starting by simple conceits like

>Making a cult is fucked up, it's always fucked up
>Just because you have some kind of divine matriarch and your society teaches you are her ordained lawgiver does not mean you are objectively right or good for society, supernatural or otherwise
>You ACTUALLY can turn into a fuckin' kaiju with big enough Depth instead of LARPing and generating monster-themed Stand powers and pretending Incarnation holds a candle to the ridiculous Lair 10=Rank 10 Spirit nonsense for a "failstate" Beast

Slow day, I see. Anyhoo you know the drill by now, I'm soliciting feedback here, I'm soliciting feedback on the bunker, if all's well I'll be uploading tomorrow knight in about ~22-23 hours.

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>>98520816
I do love this idea. It always striked me that S.I tend to assume they landed in the canon universe. I do love the idea of a S.I checking their metaknowledge is on par and them realizing holy cow it not.

>>9852069
I mean almost all of Leviathan issues come from a lack of spiritual balance. So what Leviathan really need is a spirit quest, to bring in their divine, monster and human sides into harmony. That would fix their tempest and morality meter.

But barring that some hope is always good.

>>98521203
Oh yeah, fans do it better than canon is a time old thing.

>>98521196
Yeah! More biblical stuff. It's not Trench Crusade, but it is still very good.

I love the perks of Horror of Hell. The companions are fun, as always.

>>98521203
Please do a Leviathan jump

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>>98491903
>195 - Palworld
>Drawbacks
Everyone's A (Pal) Critic, Raiding Time! (1300)
>Location & Time
Windswept Hills
>Background choices
21 years old
Human
Castaway
Factionless
>Purchases
Throwin’ Arm (1200)
Stronger Sphere Required (1000)
Survivalist (Free)
Artistic License (Free)
On Wings Of Nothing (900)
Hunger Hardened (800)
Trickle EXP (600)
Terraforming Engine (300)
Fisher's Reel (Free)
Bjorn Of Strength (0)
Paldeck (Free)
Pal Sphere (Free, discounted)
>Ending Option
Move On

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>PDFs not back

>>98522872
please understand, there's no way to stop hackers if they have a weapon that powerful

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>>98522935
Word has it that a number of mods and jannies were laid off. Apparently there's a leaked chat to that effect.

>>98522532
>Leviathan jump
But we have one. It's...I mean, it doesn't make me want to tear my eyes out, and it doesn't doesn't have some sort of retardedly powerful sea monster MILF OC who can and will upend the status quo if not dicked down regularly. For those reasons alone, it's worth passing on.

>Trench Crusade
Is the lore available from the general really all there is, barring a few new releases like the Temple of Metamorphosis? There seem to be allusions to timelines and canon events here and there but I can't find anywhere it's all pinned down.

Uh, asking for a friend.

>>98522935
I'm still astonished anyone EVER thought PDFs were coming back. What exactly about Hiromoot's management of this site, especially the random rangebans, made anyone think he'd give a shit? He's not exactly running the place out of the goodness of his heart.

I'm not even sure he even knows what a TTRPG even is.

>>98523206
Hiro probably doesn't even think about this site.
I think it's just the mods keeping things barely running the last 10 years. The site will eventually die when it becomes too outdated and starts getting hacked on a monthly basis.

>>98523206
As someone who read the original TTRPG, then followed the Second Edition and the 2.5 version... it is quite lacking.

I mean, how are you supposed to know that the Vestige of Awareness allows you to see your past and present as the same, allowing you to change your past in real time (like the Nine in Destiny, but for RPG players, so not useless). Or that the Vestige of Predation allows to eat souls. I can give you the links if you want.

Second edition Alpha: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9DMG5y7ZdngekVaMGNQbTF4RzA

V2.5: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12PqLi3kOPaQM1aacJ1NcA4_Pem9BSu8C?usp=sharing

For Trench Crusade, here:
https://mega.nz/folder/70QH0BBa#Eg-blxYQKkY_C02wErnFTQ
https://www.trenchcrusade.com/rules/

>>98523206
Yeah. The only thing I find unacceptable about the jump, you do not mind. Perks are nothing flashy but they are good enough for setting, no glaring misunderstanding of the settings. A better jump is possible but the only thing I am begging for is for the jump writer to make wake/morality meter to stop being an issue post jump.


Heck I might as well throw together a build.
Tempest, and rifter, grab the drop in tree and 100 cp on cult and normal rituals.

That leaves me with zero cp, understanding of my nature, talent at learning it, and so on.

If I assume this follows my prior unknown armies build, I already got combat and being a good cult leader handled.

I do face some danger from maduk society. But I do not expect a jump to be safe. So yeah jump fine until the ending.


If anyone wants inspiration for ttrpg jumps, fatal and friends might count.

https://writeups.letsyouandhimfight.com/

>>98524133
>If anyone wants inspiration for ttrpg jumps, fatal and friends might count.
Nobody fucking asked, you retarded piece of shit. Either make jumps yourself or stop fucking begging.

>>98524225
I looked at people who were suggesting jumps to be made. And suggested area that might have inspiration for jumps.

I was not begging and people could just not look at the link

>>98524272
Someone suggested jumps to be made, but no one asked for suggestions. Which is effectively begging, even if you're too retarded to understand that.

In old world of darkness, is it worth helping the werewolves. On one hand the pentex and wyrm are mega issues. On the other hand, werewolves are their own worst enemy.