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I Can't Believe It's Not Butter Edition

Previous: >>98513988

>News
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Current Banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Bracket Information
https://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.png
https://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png

>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Card Search
https://scryfall.com

>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com

>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Proxy Guide
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: What obscure cards do you play that made your opponents go 'huh? there's actually a card that does this?'
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>>98519689
They are smol and have green butt cheeks.
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>TQ
I guess. Randos at the LGS always are shocked by it.
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>tq
If you could please consult the flow chart
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>>98519689
They build fast, They do aristocrat fun things. They are fun to make proxies for.
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>>98519685
>tq
Tained Aether because fuck go-wide decks.
Used to be No Mercy but its recent reprintings have made it much less obscure to new Timmys.
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>>98519685
>TQ
I forgot what card it was but I was playing my Rat deck and something either gave my rats fear or I played a rat with fear, he asked what does fear do and cut me off as I was explaining it saying "I KNOW WHAT AN ARTIFACT IS!!!"
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Hey guys sorry to butt in!
Recently there was a thread that was full of unusual terrain/geography/places.

I'm wanting to use it for mtg stuff but I can't find it in the archive. Any help?
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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https://moxfield.com/decks/Yfi8i9-cUEC3wEJCcCcNaQ
>greasefang deck
>check inside
>7 vehicles
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>TQ
I thought it would be funny but people found it more annoying to count than anything else.
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>>98519712
Chains of Mephistopheles is actually quite a simple effect but the original printing has the absolute worst rules text all of Magic
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>including unseen footsteps in a brand-new foil treatment
Anyone know if they've actually said what the new foil treatment is?
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>>98519811
it reads to me like if you draw a card you discard and draw infinitely
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>>98519892
It's ok Timmy, you'll likely never encounter a legit one in real life anyways.
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>>98519892

For Timmy:
If a player would draw outside of the first card they normally draw as part of their draw step, they instead discard a card before drawing the card. If they have no card to discard this way, they instead mill the top card of their library.
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what are some cool commanders that do things I like? (graveyard recursion/play, cool and weird artifact interactions)
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>>98519941
>cool and weird artifact interactions)
A commander that makes treasures but doesn't actually always want to use them for mana maybe?
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>>98519949
what part of this is white? the fact that it gives vigilance?
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>>98519941
Galazeth Primsari gets you a cool gameplay loop of turning artifacts that have no business tapping themselves into rocks. So you can run a one-sided Trinisphere or Static Orb.
But it also asks you to play a relatively robust spellslinger package in something trying to be an artifact deck, which has some cute deckbuilding constraints.
Noctis Prince of Lucis gets you recursive artifacts that isn't Emry but you have to find a way to play around the finality counters.
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>>98519987
What part of you is white? Only the underside of your feet?
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>>98519987
Animating artifacts should be in boro's color identity. It's turning artifacts into dudes. I get that Blue does it too but animating artifacts is a white spin on a red focused mechanic.
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https://moxfield.com/decks/4A2gAe3vp32ZfiJ7Pp1wkQ
Thoughts on this vibe?
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>>98519941
This dude used to get brought up a lot for weird artifact combos.
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>>98519941
Trazyn the Infinite covers pretty much all of those bases, but it's pretty hard not to make him a combo deck
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I think I'll build goblins for a red deck. anyone have a base I could look at? I wanted to use Kreat after learning about her last thread
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I give up on Toph, even the deck an anon sent me here I couldn't really accomplish anything turn after turn even after having a decent start. Now i need to find a new deck to play
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>>98520396
https://moxfield.com/search/cards?q=order%3Aedhrec%20direction%3Aascending%20o%3Asacrifice%20t%3Aartifact%20f%3Acommander%20ci%3Awrg&advanced=eyJpc1NlYXJjaGluZyI6ZmFsc2UsImVycm9yRGF0YSI6e30sIm5hbWUiOiIiLCJvcmFjbGUiOiJzYWNyaWZpY2UiLCJ0eXBlTGluZSI6ImFydGlmYWN0IiwibWFuYUNvc3QiOiIiLCJtYW5hVmFsdWUiOiIiLCJvcmRlciI6ImVkaHJlYyIsImRpcmVjdGlvbiI6ImRlc2NlbmRpbmcifQ%3D%3D
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every lgs I've ever been to has had a toph player that tried to make her work but iver time they slowly realize that the commander is actually kinda awful
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Deck check

>Teysa-crifice
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>>98519811
I'm not sure what's so confusing about the original text
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>>98519685
>TQ
>What the fuck do you mean there's a repeating blue doom blade on legs?
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>>98520525
neat
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Why wasn't there a blue-green card with friends forever imo
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>>98519132
it's 2026 and a lot of draft commons are pretty playable in commander
that's one thing I actually kind of like about the current design era
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when more than one creature enters at once, does this kind of ability go off multiple times? or just one damage for that instance of 2x+ creatures entering?
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>>98520566
Nice Gargos support
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>>98520612
yes if ten creatures you control enter all at the same time, Kreat will trigger ten times
the wording you are looking for is
>Whenever another creature you control enters,
vs
>Whenever *one or more* creatures you control enter

the latter would only trigger once for each event. Tocasia's Welcome only lets you draw one card even if ten goblins enter all at once. If someone casts Wrath of God and 50 creatures die, your Chainsaw only gets one Rev counter.
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>>98520627
thanks anon. context clues led me to believe it got multiple triggers (what would be the point of all the multiple goblin generators) but I had to ask. Gonna work on my decklist more, gobbos seem fun and scary
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Post yfw you top deck a win after being dead on board
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I hate how the spirit of EDH is gone now that all colors can run like 4 cards with the same effect plus tutors
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>>98520647
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>>98520653
just ban tutors ezpz
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>>98520647
this is how I got my first real win (ignored until Rampant Frogantua got turbocharged by the dead opponents)
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>>98519941
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>>98519949
I'm kind of glad they started to lump in all those sort of tribal but not classes like rogue and mercenary together via outlaw
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print it you cowards
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>>98520653
Yeah it was way better when blue was completely uncontestable and all the viable commanders tutored cards into play.
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>>98520707
Not even trying to make a plausible post.
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>>98520707
i'm fine with conjure, it just means it being legal means wishes being made legal too, aka wishboard
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>>98520653
>morons whine how edh is so consistent
>these same morons will insist you allow them true dual proxies for consistency btw
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>>98520755
judgement.... kino
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>>98520771
I do not albiet I think all rares should be banned
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>>98518442
>>98518452
>>98518670
yea that checks out though you still have to cast one of them so it's a bit slower to pull off. luv me some invasion of kaldheim, both sides are pretty good
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>>98520653
I hate how the spirit of EDH has become a race about who can run the most ugly reprints
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>>98520707
heyy I built a deck around that in forge adventure mode. pretty fun
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>>98520802
cute
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>>98519685
>TQ
Playing this caused mass confusion at the table and two former judges and the store owner came over to read it
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>>98519846
Bilbo is in some sort of silver ink. All they had to do was reprint stuff like Delighted Halfling and The One Ring and people would lap up these cards. instead we just got a bunch of bullshit.
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>>98520839
Honestly with that name I expected a much more obscene alter. Those boobs are quite nearly plausible.
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>>98520841
Actually pretty cool tech for a voltron or enchantress deck. Extremely gimmicky but not to the point of being a brick, and the price is certainly right.
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>>98519987
White gets aggressive artifact effects, vigilance is a typically white effect. Tribal flavor is weird but honestly that's already more justification than most cards these days.
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Its already at more than 6%.
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>>98520897
>White gets a card people like
>It's literally a gay dragon
The monkey's paw curls.
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I tried building an Appa deck and it's just abdel but worse, or an Oketra combo deck
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>>98520898
>Gay dragon
Redundant statement.
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>>98520653
Build predh decks or cease your whining.
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>>98520786
Sounds like something a poor would say
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>>98520960
ok
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I proxy all of my lands
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>>98520989
This nigga cant afford mountains
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>>98521004
They're like 30 dollars each
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>>98521011
That's an Island, Anon.
Is someone trying to sell you "islands" for $30 and say they are misprinted Mountains?
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>>98521016
When did I say I used mountains?
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>>98521024
>cant even follow the conversation he is having
Someone is preying on this young man, god bless his soul
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>>98521011
Why would you even want to put this in your deck? It looks like complete ass next to regular cards. Utter visual chaos and disharmony. Disgusting.
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>>98521038
>Why (thing involving personal taste)
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>>98521039
>He thinks aesthetics are only a matter of personal taste
I am sorry anonymous, but putting your pixel art computer frame card next to a regular magic card objectively makes for a hideous picture.
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>>98520438
Looks pretty cool, now check mine

https://archidekt.com/decks/20744451/tesya_nobody_said_death_wasnt_free
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>>98521109
so you misspelled Teysa's name
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>>98521156
Fuck, didn't notice
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>>98520653
only if you're playing stupid ass pushed strategies like green +1+1 counters or red artifacts.
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>>98519685
>TQ:
I tell people I over-assign the trample damage
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>>98520898
Then put something else on it
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>>98521109
https://moxfield.com/decks/VCv4jW8g8kKn08BDmXVy_A
Throwing my Teysa into the mix
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>>98520707
Conjure is ridiculously unplayable in paper
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>Hasbro is obsessed with UB so much, they are forcing it into DND.
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>vile duplication
>spark double
>quantum misalignment
>multiversal recruitment
>multiversal incursion
>impostor syndrome
>ember island production
>sakashimas
im tired of it boss, anytime there is blue in the identity and commander is somewhat relevant there is a whole suite of cards to ensure that it will be a cancer and a problem unless you no-game them with 9mm before they manage to get a clone off
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>>98521475
Nonlegendary clones are garbage design. I just start screaming in panic and confusion whenever someone plays one.
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>>98521443
They did WoW back in 3.5 it's not something new. They did Rick and Morty for 5e. They did Diablo 2 for 2e. This isn't something new. But it also wasn't something common.
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>>98521475
haha you ain't seen nuthin yet
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>>98519811
I don't even know why it has the mill clause. Isn't drawing to 1 and discarding to 0 functionally the same as milling 1?
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>>98520438
>>98521109
>>98521400

Why is she so liked?
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>>98521599
She is quite easy to build for, decently strong and also she's hot.
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>98521618
Dogshit on so many levels
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>>98521625
Anon you need two >'s to respond to someone, here let me do it for you
>>98521625
for >>98521618
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>>98519685
>TQ
"Nice Bird."
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>>98521657
I played against this the other day on phase.rs but it wasn't working right and destroyed creatures even if they attacked
Neat little thing
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I think Im just venting but so tiring bros... My pod gathers every couple of months type of shit, no point in me making more decks since I admit part of the hobby is to talk shit with friends but the last few times we are getting more competitive, that is fine. We were 5 players, one would sit it out but our 5th recently passed away. Newish guy, learned super fast and was actually enjoyable to play with, but now we are stuck with this family member who is a fucking retard. Doesnt read his cards, sees a "deck tech" omg I have to do that and only goes for that one thing the deck did in a video. What gets me the most is that he guns for me all the time, counterspells if blue removal on my commander or some random shit for no reason and the games are basically I gun for him back and the other two chew however is "winning" in the exchange for the win or I focus a threat, fall behind and no way to come back. Ive spoken to this retard about it, we've even told him multiple times "Why are you casting that removal, is it moving your gameplan forward?" "No I just dont want him to get value" and across the board they point at better threats. I fucking miss my voltron deck for times like this, just to eliminate the retard early and get it over with. Anyways yeah, might try a local hobby shop with the other 2 but Ive only had bad experiences in local areas (people dont shower or personal space is a foreign concept, plus I admit some playful banter is fun and sometimes folk lack a funny bone)
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>>98521723
have you guys tried wagering for something like food to incentivize winning just so your new guy realizes he actually has to play to win?
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>>98521736
Actually, we are all older fucks. This guy has been playing since 06 and just straight up refuses to read cards and goes off what someone else did in X situation. I tell him "Hey focus up on a few deck so you learn a bit more the mechanic-" nope, breaks his decks and a new shiny thing next time. We've told him mono colors might be better for him, specially Red, but nothing. We've spoken multiple times to ask in case of doubt or just speak with the table since we know a bit more about the game state (But we dont know what anyone has in their hand) but nothing. Its just slowly draining the fun out of things.
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>>98521759
at this point if he's too stupid to learn you might as well play to win for free pizza or something, he wouldn't be any wiser anyway
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>start building this as saga creatures with pod subtheme
>have to clumsily fill the sizable gaps at 6/7 because there are basically no saga creatures for the pod chain there
>have to fit in ramp, removal, sac outlets, proliferate engines and counter removal for the saga creatures, cheap artifact/enchantment clones
>haven't even begun browsing my collection and I'm already at 100+ cards
Oh my fucking god.
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>Mono red Smaug is a cooler design
>The Rakdos Smaugs let you play an extra color.
This sucks.
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>>98521773
damn just hitting Fenrir once with this guy is fucking dumb, good idea
do you really need to include sac outlets though? you can sac the food sagas
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>>98519739
This is pasta, Isn't it? Unless you told this story before because it sounds familiar
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>>98521998
Told it before
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>>98521974
I don't care about saccing the food sagas, ideally they should stay as long as possible. I care about prematurely sacrificing the current sagas to re-trigger their saga effects on the token they make.
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>>98521723
If you actually believed your own story, you would have stopped inviting the guy. What's the point of a fourth player if that player's turn is just wasting everyone's time? Grace is a finite resource, and you don't need to spend it on idiots. But if you're aren't willing to sack up and end the behavior, it can't be that bad.

"You're bad at Magic, and no one will miss you at the table."
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>>98522013
>>98521773
I also get to run this, my pet card of pet cards.
>one-off sacrifice effect and anti-theft
>repeatable card draw
>spams proliferate in a wide variety of decks
>mana rock in a pinch
This card is bad but it's so cool and no one ever uses it.
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>>98522057
i've had people scoop automatically and start chimping out when i cast this. they'd accuse me of pubstomping with some sort of infinite or something because they thought it was staff of domination.
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>>98520438
we posting decks now? Also sad to see the other anon couldn't make this deck work. I like playing Toph
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>>98522080
I've had people make the exact same mistake, asking if it's a combo piece from rote memory. Then I get to um, actually and explain lore-wise it's the evil fucked up somehow much less powerful version.

>>98522082
First fair-looking Toph I've ever seen. Takes great pains to make her not kill on sight.
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>>98521475
you forgot clone saga, auton soldier and dominion saboteur. I blame universes beyond for the surge of this shit
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>>98522100
>I blame universes beyond for the surge of this shit
Blame commander. It's because clones are a "feel bad" for new players since they don't let you copy your commander. They're just trying to make it frictionless.
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I'm a little bored at work. Anyone need deckbuilding help?
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>>98522123
bracket 1 flubs
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>>98522132
No
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>>98522123
b2 balrog durin's bane
b2 eriette the beguiler
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>>98522138
No and no
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>>98522138
Yeah, but like... what about them?
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>>98522123
Yes, an osgir the reconstructor deck that can survive after kiling one player at the table running a mirrodin themed infect deck. Protip: sac artifacts to turn unblockable 1/1 infects into 10/10 infect unblockables
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>>98522148
That's actually cool as fuck. Only easy route to this seems like big treasure generation to me. You can also slap Super Sonic onto the infect creature and make it pretty effortless, though that's somewhat against the spirit of the deck.

I'd imagine the friction is
>blowing all your permanents on killing a single guy
>getting deleted afterward
which is sort of the MO of low-to-the-ground infect in EDH. Way worse in Boros of all things, leaving your best option as like... Inkmoth Nexus. It depends how deep you wanna go down that route, because it is very all-in.
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>>98522123
I have no idea how to fit banding, lure, and rampage into a single deck.
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>>98522167
Sorry, Super State. I'm so mad such a goated card is a secret lair Sonic exclusive of all things.
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>>98522182
Gotta make those paypigs pay up
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Why don't we use Smogon used-tier for cards instead of brackets? I feel like this would bring much more variety for deck building and balance.
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>>98522132
I build this exact thing as a chaos deck.
Don't bother. Even if you keep insisting it's a Bracket 1, you start going off, then get killed on sight because "well gee golly wee anon, that deck's doing a lot, so it's scary!"
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>>98522193
Smogon is AIDs and cancer, and usage tiers would cripple certain colors that aren't blue while letting money cards slip through.

Retard.
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>>98522193
lower brackets already use smogon rules, pokefag
Turn X Clause: going infinite and/or executing a win the game alt wincon before a designated turn X is banned.
MLD Clause: cards that regularly destroy, exile, and bounce other lands, keep lands tapped, or change what mana is produced by four or more lands per player without replacing them are banned.
Gamechanger Clause: Having more than a designated number of gamechangers is banned.
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>>98522193
I've thought about this deeply and lowkey it would slap
but the rules making process would legit be the biggest clusterfuck of all time, there are 30,000 cards in commander and the card interactions in mtg are much more comboriffic than in any smogon meta I ever played, yes mons synergize with each other but they mostly get banned and tiered based on their individual strengths. and then it's like "ohh this card is fine as long as I don't run this other card cmon please please"

so yeah it would be fun to have a special little bracket just for your favorite glup shitto but unfortunately I don't think it can be done

plus like, in pokemon and you don't have to actually pay more for sought after mons, so I don't think it works on principle
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>>98522193
Thats basically the 'salt meter'.
Like Smokestack is a fair and balanced card, but at bracket 2 in a green tokens deck on 4 with some of your own mana dorks, and 1 dude who just played his 4th land with no follow up is going to start screaming 'MLD'.
Strong/salty cards tend to relegate themselves to higher brackets.

Ive been trying to post his for an hour fuck you /maintenance/
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>>98522182
just proxy it? wotc printing fomo cards is no business you should support
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>>98522211
can't believe sleep got banned in dpp ou man
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>>98522228
>Just be a troon
No
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>play this commander
>instantly go from 5 to 14+ mana on like turn 3/4
Isn't this pretty crazy? There really aren't many better ramp commanders out there for stompytard decks.
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>>98522255
wotc printing fomo cards is no business you should support
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>>98522276
You got this from Command Zone didn't ya
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>>98522279
No i just pulled one of these in foil today and was like... wait really?
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>>98522278
those fomo cards feed the artists you claim to support, troon
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>>98522276
yes, it's the most removal check commander to ever check removal on since it needs more than one or a wipe
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>>98522276
I remove two counters from my jitte. Enjoy your 5 mana boreal druid.
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>>98522291
did I?
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tuck my commander will you?
>unsheathes hobbit hole
nothin personnel
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>>98522276
>5cmc
>dies to inferno titan
pass
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>>98522294
>casts it again with the help of last one after a land drop
>they now tap for even more
nice one, troon
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>>98522304
Not if it comes out with a token doubler
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>>98522299
ah then join me in vouching for ai art, maybe wotc will use the funds they waste on retarded artists on something more useful instead
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>>98522304
It'll be out by turn 4 the latest and single removal does not disable it.
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>>98522217
This is where Genesys point system worked immaculately for YGO. It's a middle ground between just overlooking tons of shit and being too heavy with bans, while at the same time not being a system too complex for an employed person to understand
>Every card has a point value (most are 0 points), count the points in your deck and make sure they add up to 100 or less
Basically CanLander but not aimed solely at people wanting to play Vintage. You could probably even do brackets based on points, like brackets for 0/10/25/50/100 points.

The main problem is I think the average Magic player at this point is so stupid they would find points too complicated because that would mean needing to check rules and do basic addition (or worse, use a deckbuilding tool) when these people can't even be assed to see that their opponent is tapping 8 mana for a spell so they should probably respond, or that Dockside Extortionist got banned 2 years ago so they need to remove it from their Balen token deck (real event that happened).
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>>98522310
That's why I specified two you dope. I'm hitting the tokens. I am responding to bait.
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>>98522322
they already do tho
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>>98522334
the point is that your ramp commander shouldn't be costing 5cmc
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>>98521914
>(Card) is a cool design
>Deck would be better running T&K or Wandering Minstrel solely because more colors is that powerful
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>>98522338
>they already do tho
so why are people whining
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>>98522322
Ah yes, that's what WOTC needs; even less people working on the game and more hysterical profits for the corporate parasite class.

Tell me do they neuter you when you get to middle management in Hasbro or was that the requirements of the temp position Sahir found for you?
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>>98522349
idk, some niggas just get uppity when you bring up proxying
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>>98522348
>build a budget archelos list
>final fantasy comes out and wandering minstrel is better
>make it a three color wandering minstrel deck instead
nothin perssonel
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>>98522361
>more hysterical profits
well, yes. maybe finally then people would WAKE THE FUCK UP
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>>98522361
>stop buying fomo!
>but think of the poor artists, they do so much for the game!
lol if only proxytards were logically consistence >>98522362
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>>98522342
Nobody is talking about cedh, troonoid. Of course Kinnan is better than a commander you would use to play big stupid dinosaurs or eldrazi in bracket 3.
Do you feel like you're smart for posting this?
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>miku deck comes with a lifecounter
>it only goes to 40
>for a lifegain deck
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>>98522375
the other point is that your brown hobbits aren't 'pretty crazy' you fool
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>>98522386
They are for casual gameplay where you're not trying to make infinite mana with basalt monolith on turn 2/3!
The standard for whether a card in commander is good isn't only whether it's good in cedh.
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>>98522402
>ok fine they're not 'pretty crazy'
i accept your concession
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You vill NOT have 2 pieces of removal to neuter the notary niggits
You VILL lose to the green ramp in bracket 3
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>>98522411
Nobody said this, you're hallucinating.
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>>98522402
nta, but define "casual gameplay" because I genuinely hate this shit where people say a card is insane then when you point out that there's better options they just say that's "not casual" while trying to argue that some fucking 9-drop is ruining "casual" play.
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>>98522276
so have people figured out this is a foodchain commander yet
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Why does it seem like anons get upset anytime someone wants to build anything
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>>98522421
>Nobody said this
>Isn't this pretty crazy? >>98522276
imagine being incapable of backreading
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>>98522428
We did it boys. We broke Food Chain!
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>>98522422
Any bracket below 5 is casual and each of those brackets has different cards that can shine and be very good in them, while they might fall off in higher brackets or actually not be as good in lower ones.
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>>98522434
No, nobody said it's not crazy, nobody consneeded to you. That's what you're hallucinating.
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>>98522448
>Any bracket below 5 is casual
and yet when i advocate for primetime to be a GC you'll be the first to froth at the mouth
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>>98522374
I buy my cards retard

If I use proxies, I make proxies with a pen and printer paper. Because I'm not a consumerist evolutionary cul-de-sac.
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>>98522448
In bracket 4 you are never casting it
In bracket 3* it eats removal and does nothing
You're not allowed to play it in bracket 2 because it consistently ends the game before turn 8.

*When not played by retards because b3 has the highest power variance of any bracket
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>>98522462
No i'd love to see cards like him and emrakul unbanned, at least temporarily
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>>98522455
>nobody said it's not crazy
>so it must be crazy!
incorrect, it's actually very tame
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>>98522431
They never pick cool commanders, so I need to berate them for it. It is my sacred duty to keep shitting on anons until they develop good taste and decide to build a General Jarkeld deck of their own volition.
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>>98522336
I'm still running into people who have at most heard of brackets but don't know about the gamechanger list, so a granulated point system would go basically unused.
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>>98522479
So based
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>>98522474
>at least temporarily
your timidity betrays you, deep down you really do believe that a 15 mana eldrazi will ruin casual play
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>>98522431
The faggots who decry
>its not as optimal though
Are retards who need instructions for lego and edhrec synergy scores to decide things for them
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>>98522509
misses fliers, its dogshit, every creature flies now
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>>98522428
we did it reddit, we broke food chain!
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>>98522485
The shortcoming of brackets is that even with a GC list it's only one extra level of granularity rather than 100, which is how you get format-warping cards like Rhystic/TOR being evaluated in the same tier as horrible cards like Coalition Victory or Biorhythm. One thing Genesys did well was assigning very small point values to basically every staple card to acknowledge their ubiquity despite not being nearly strong enough to warrant something as harsh as a ban. It gives a cost to their inclusion and pushes players towards nicher options which is exactly what a format like EDH should be about.

However I do 100% agree with you that the average EDH player is too stupid to ever figure it out. Like I said I ran into someone that didn't know Dockside got banned 2 years ago and threw a fit over it because they planned their turn around getting 15 Treasures for 2 mana. If keeping up with a banlist is too hard for these people there's no way you can convince them to figure out a point system.
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>>98522524
I rest my case
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>>98522524
>>98522550
They fly now?
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>>98522545
>Rhystic/TOR being evaluated in the same tier as horrible cards like Coalition Victory or Biorhythm.
blame sheldon and the rc's infinite wisdom for that, they have been hallowed authorities for so long that wotc has to follow their footsteps for at least a few more years to not upset the timmies
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>>98522557
they fly now..
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>>98522563
I hope they diverge from the rc path as soon as possible so Sol Ring can finally eat the ban it deserves.
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>>98522563
I obviously picked the most extreme example but in a game as large as MtG with players having such drastically different expectations for play patterns, I don't think any iteration of the GC list will resolve the issue of cards being softbanned because other cards on the GC list are drastically better. It's not really possible to neatly sort all cards into "Free/GC/Ban" when the card pool can consistently end the game on turn 3, but players want to play 6+ mana Dinosaur tribal.
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>>98522462
>>98522474
Primetime, Emmy, and Dockside are basically what the GC list is for.
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>>98522603
if you think about it brackets also use a points system
GC cards are 1 point each
MLD cards are 4 points each
b2 has 0
b3 has 3 slots
b4+ have unlimited slots
so really it just boils down to taste and sorry but again blame sheldon and the rc for their infinite wisdom in creating precedent, wotc is all too happy not to have to create an entirely new system from scratch
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>>98522616
One of these things is not like the others... One of these things just doesn't belong...
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>>98522291
If you really want to support that artist, just go to your local book store and buy an IDW Sonic comic.

The Secret Lairs were drawn by IDW's artists.
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>>98522625
dockside is fine and did nothing wrong
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they should just print dockside as a sorcery instead of a creature etb.
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>>98522631
i love how you don't assign blame to the artists whatsoever because god forbid someone asks you why they even agreed with wotc to do fomo cards in the first place
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>>98522182
>cool as fuck big dick aura card
>it's stuck as an out of production limited run item that has sonic the hedgehog front and center
Guess I'll be sticking with Eldrazi Conscription unless it gets a reprint in the X-Men set or something
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>>98522666
>gay homo is worse than tranny blomo
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>>98520898
>>98520906
>le gay dragon xDDDD
Go back already, e621 shill.
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>>98522666
eldrazi conscription wouldl be an onslaught reskin obv
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>>98522680
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>need to swap out some cards for a deck that you already feel like is a well oiled machine.
It's a terrible feel man
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>>98522717
>yes i oiled my machine so much
>but oiling it 1% more just feels wrong man
wtf is wrong with you
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>>98522717
if my deck is successful i must slowly slot in jank dogshit until it stops working this is how it works
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>>98522653
Since ALL of them were IDW staff and nobody on Sega's marketing team, they probably contracted IDW who just forwarded the artists instructions yo make a couple portraits beside their normal workflow. I can't imagine Evan Stanley was actively looking at WotC classifieds given how involved she was with the comic at the time.
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>>98522677
When gay homo costs 20 bucks for a fucking aura, yes, retard, it is worse and I'm just hoping that maybe Phoenix or somebody else that's a big power name in Marvel will let us have a way fucking cheaper card with the same effect
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>smogon discussion
what is the EDH equivalent of Funbro
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>>98522795
Life gain pillowfort with no win con
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>>98522795
Enlightened, hexproof, and indestructible counters on a basic land.
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>>98522795
Boardwipe tribal
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>>98522795
Easy.
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>>98522824
>>98522813
>>98522803
stall is stall, but methinks it's not funbro unless you also prevent the opponents (and yourself) from decking
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What's a cool low CMC equipment commander?
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>>98522838
Fractured Identity Platinum Angel + Spark Double copying Aang, Master of Elements (use 3 Aangs for good measure). Play Lavinia, Azorius Renegade.
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>>98522841
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>>98522841
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>>98522856
I wish he was a cute girl or at least some cool dude, i'll never play an ugly trashmob as a commander
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>>98522920
Make him whatever you want my guy. Making proxies is easy.
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Ideas for non-infinite wincons for a bounce theme?

Thinking of rebuilding Barrin, Master Wizard for the millionth time.
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>>98523003
reminder to say "oh, SNAP" really loudly when you play this.
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I feel you creepin', I can see it from my shadow
Wanna jump up in my Lamborghini Gallardo?
Maybe go to my place and just kick it like Tae Bo?
And possibly bend you over?
Look back and watch me

Snapback, all on the floor
Snapback, give me some more
Snapback, 'til you get sore
Snapback, oh
Snapback, all on the floor
Snapback, give me some more
Snapback, 'til you get sore
Snapback, oh
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>>98522795
Perennation + Platinum Angel
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>>98522182
Do I play this alongside my twenty toed toad to give haste and surprise alt-win them or is there a much cheaper or green/blue haste giver I'm not aware of
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>>98523057
was told this combo wasn't b3 the other day
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>>98523058
Are you telling me you have never heard of Lightning Greaves?
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>>98523068
unironically yes i started like two weeks ago thank you...
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>yes I hate WOTC's business practices
>yes I will keep giving them money
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>>98522841
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>yes I hate america's business practices
>yes I won't leave
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>>98523057
it's not funbro until you also Perennate the Abyssal Persecutor to go alongside it
and since we're apparently in Abzan, you probably want an indestructible Sigarda to go with that
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>>98519941
>graveyardslop
>artifactslop

Sorry Anon those are two very under supported deck types that rarely get cards so your choices are very limited.
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>>98523106
You also need a Null Brooch to protect yourself from blue mass bounce effects.
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What commander do i use to signal that i'm secretly a submissive faggot with a buttplug inside
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>>98520396
>really love the concept of landfall
>looking at all the landfall spoiled cards in red and green and white
>"Oh boy I can't wait to see what Naya landfall commander we'll get to tie all these RGW earthbend cards together!"
>it's another fucking artifact goodstuff commander

This game has some of the most boring designs imaginable.
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>>98523127
ms bumbleflower or yshtola
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>>98523103
he cute but I don't know what I'm doing https://moxfield.com/decks/RqEpaux7zU6jVfzJ0oGHTg
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>>98523140
I started playing around lifegain as well I say put some niggas like Moseo or Witch of the Moors in
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>>98521443
>Wizard's worldbuilding and character design is so abysmally shit throughout its entire history that even though they've been the default company for TCGs and TTRPGs for western nerds for nearly four decades now they've failed to create a single popular story or character while other creators have managed to build entire franchises like Final Fantasy and Critical Role and earned millions off using Wizard's properties as a launch pad and built massive fandoms in a few short years that dwarf any fandom wizards ever garnered

FTFY
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>>98520438
Elf Feet Mommy
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>>98519811
the oracle text is beyond retarded for chains. the original card is the most clear by far.

>>98519685
>TQ

I like whipping Frank out in graveyard decks as a lieutenant commander. from the 2nd UB set, "The Dark"
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>>98523159
>...who cares about characters, think of the vistas! ravnica, innistrad!
>yeah just like x-wings! deathstar! yavin 4!
UWfags are unironic SWfags and they don't even know it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfJRm0WssOE
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>>98523159
It's because quite ironically WotC has formed a template and status quo they feel they can't change because their product is built upon being said status quo. You can't challenge the audience with a story that makes them think because the primary demographic for MtG cards is retards that think buying boosters is a good idea.
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>>98519949
>>98519987

right this is firmly a red blue black (aka Nightscape colors. or fags call it "GRIXIS") but GōtC has refused to print good red blue black legendary creatures since 2011
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>>98520707
imagine playing arena instead of modo

grim...
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>>98523187
rogsi's a very good nightscape general tho
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>>98523147
cute
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>>98520525
allowing them to plan around and recast it every 3 turns is doom blade?
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>>98523187
For me it's indatha
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>>98523186
i dunno anon if dnd can have a flop but good movie there's just no excuse for this shit ip other than having the best tcg mechanics around
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>>98520897
mines already in my white black tribal knights (Squall seed mercenary commander) mid power deck (replaced monologue tax)
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>>98520898
you mad??? this is the one everyone's playing (I just posted my copy as a reply above so I couldn't link it to yours)

if you arent running this version you're a joke. but quit acting like this isnt the most baller art on a card in recent times
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I really like playing one and two drop commanders
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>>98523159
Oh, hey, look, this schizo again.
Here to force his same retarded argument again.
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>>98523238
Oh, hey, look, someone from the dead containment thread again.
Here to defend the honor of the Jacetice League again.
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>>98523190
useless for dealing commander damage unless an insane Voltron speed run in mono red (since real commander follows the rules which means ONE LEGENDARY CREATURE)
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>>98520438
I was trying to figure out what to replace Orcrist for anyway.
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>>98523205
A netflix show about Urza's Saga would be something they could do.
But would normalfag audiences buy into a story about a wizard turning into TurboHitler to battle MechaSatan?

Or a take on the Weatherlight Saga, since they could add even more planes for it to visit. Or just toss the existing story and just have it centered on Sisay and Gerard and their crew of misfits hopping from one strange plane to another on their flying ship having weird and wile adventures. Every now and then running into a known planeswalker but not centering on them like a story about the Jacestice League.
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>>98523238
>retarded argument

As opposed to your intelligent, well sourced, and truthful argument, that one you'll never post, right?
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>>98523273
They can't even get most Magic players buying into the story. People bitched about Gerrard and Jace for as long as they kept appearing on cards after their first appearance.
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How does combat with these two on the board work if let's say I have a 0/6 on the board attacking?
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>>98523186
You can still tell popular stories or create popular characters within a status quo. Look at Harry Potter and the Wizarding World. Harry goes to school, has his adventures, beats his villain, graduates, and nothing changes. He even joins the government as his job. Hogwarts isn't blown up, Muggles aren't made aware of magic, there's no great revolution. Harry lives, has his adventures, dies, and the setting itself remains intact. Same as it did 15 years before Harry was born when they had their war against Voldemort. Same as it did 60+ years ago when Dumbledore had his war against Grindenwald.
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>>98520438
>do thing twice!
>>98523165
>most generic EDHrec pile in existence, Craterhoof dead-center
>>98523267
>AI slop AND staple slop

grim
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>>98523312
Cry about it.
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>>98523306
WotC doesn't even have the balls to keep Bolas dead after the third time. You think they can commit to having Snape kill Dumbledore?
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>>98523305
it will gain skulk and be a 6/12
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>>98523305
Both triggers go on the stack at the same time, but you get to choose which order they resolve in. So you can have MacCready's trigger resolve and see the 0/6 and give it Skulk. Then have Doran see it and give it +6/+6.
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>>98523322
>>98523328
Thanks anons I wasn't too sure what would happen
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>>98523267
that Anim tho
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Does it work like I think it would or did I create something that doesn’t work?
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>>98523351
Patiently waiting for her to get a cute SL print or something to use as well.
I'll see you at the heat death of the universe.
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>>98523352
A 12-mana do-nothing that would require a CR update just for its effect? Yeah you made that.
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>>98523273
All mtg stories suck and would be repulsive to watch.
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>>98523159
It's insane that Yugioh produced one kids show in the 2000s and that has forever kept it from ever needing to resort to whore itself out the way Magic has. Wotc tried so hard to pretend they were Marvel post BFZ and in the end they sold their own ass to BE Marvel. Magic slugs want the life of the Yugioh chad so badly. No UB, cute girls everywhere on cards, reprints out the ass, support for old archetypes galore. Instead they're stuck with lame western IPs like Doctor Who and bad renditions of The Hobbit and they have to slurp it up like this poor piggy who's deluded himself into believing the slop in his dish doesn't taste rancid.

I really do pity you guys, the magic players in my LGS all look old and miserable.
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>>98523267
>AIgenned booba proxies
Have some self-respect. No I don't mind the lewdness but get someone to make actual sexy art, this is just embarrassing.
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>>98523399
Magic wishes it could have something as genuinely cool as Kozmo or a company that does an emergency print run in response to scalping.
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>>98523407
You pay for it, I'll use it. Until then I care not for what you believe is "respectable."
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>>98523429
Holy shit. This is the power of autism?
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>>98523429
this shit's retarded
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>>98523429
didn't know the EDH/Commander scene was this big in India.
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>>98523429
>every card on the board is the same bitch
genuinely unintelligible aifags are barely human
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>>98522167
Yeah, 1v1 it's pretty effective because you can just sac all your mana rocks and artifact lands to 1 tap the guy turbo-like but then in a 4 player game, the remaining 2 players just saw what you did to the first guy to die and you become something of a villain without a board if they force you to pull the trigger early.

I wouldn't mind adding super state though.
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>>98523451
>Okay when its miku
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>>98523397
Nah, we need to rush out an adaptation of War of the Spark with none of the buildup just so we can get to Nissa and Chandra's lesbian relationship.
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>>98523463
Didn't that book do the exact opposite?
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>>98523397
brother war might be cool, maybe the mirrodin arc if they do it stylishly and it's mostly just kino stuff. Cool vistas and battles, exploring a weird alien metal plane(planet?)

I don't put much stock into anything else.
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>>98523429
Honestly. Based.
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>>98523429
>it's ok to proxy!
>ok i'll proxy the art too
>no not like that!
Proxytards truly are retarded
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>>98523494
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>>98523494
Are you supporting the post your responding to, or condemning it? I can't tell.
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>>98523496
Love it when trannies claim to be pro artist by not feeding then via paying for their fomo art
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>>98523501
It's just funny how proxytards suddenly have standards whenever ai art - just a proxy for human art mind you - is involved
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>>98523514
I think commissioning an artist for 65+ pieces would run you around 6-12k.
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>>98523535
>i support all artists!
>only when it suits me of course
Movie pirates at least have the decency to not claim to be pro actors btw
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>>98523429
whats the commander?
Does anyone ever refuse to play with you at your LGS?
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>>98523544
I doubt anyone here has 12k in their bank account right now.
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>>98523399
they tried to be cool in the late 90s. they had the. tournaments on MTV. people just didnt buy into the idea (far too faggy)

they needed someone like the equivalent of the face tattoo guy who bought the One Ring 1/1 in the year 2000. Eminem wouldn't have worked but someone like that

+ a TV show and a console game. they made the dreamcast game in Japan only (major fail, and stupid not to bring it to America)

that and all the years of garbage sets made it not interesting. when someone hears about cool cards like black lotus and some of the other shit and then see what cards you "ACTUALLY" get to play it with they're slow weak, do NOTHING its like "nah ill pass"

2010 was a good revival for it but still not enough until commander started getting traction and then they had to do their Seattle thing and cater to the troon groomers
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>>98523553
TOR is only ~$100 you know
Perhaps you're just too poor to be a patron of the fine arts methinks
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>>98523548
>Does anyone ever refuse to play with you at your LGS?
I honestly doubt any story where someone refuses to play or angrily leaves a game due to proxies or shit. Most people are very non-confrontational and would rather just play through the game and silently leave after.
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>>98523273
Weatherlight Saga is legit based. Skyship Weatherlight & the Legacy Weapon are dope af

no, instead they used groomer fanfic about their 2010's planeswalkers being lesbos to cater to...broke (& literally gay) losers?
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>>98523567
I was thinking less about the proxies and more about the non-stop-specific-anime-girl-cleavage-on-every-single-card-in-public thing
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>>98523567
Most people are very non-confrontational and would rather just eat what they can at a bad restaurant and silently leave after too, so why are you surprised at seeing backlash lol
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>>98523187
>grixis?
>oh UBR you mean the national colours of Latveria
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>>98523429
it's already difficult enough to wrangle a gooner retard through a game without everyone constantly being confused as fuck because the gooner retard put the same ai animu-battle-whore on every card
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>>98523577
I never see backlash
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>>98523548
Its Gisela, Blade of Goldnight. I've played that deck maybe twice in total at the LGS. Its more of just a meme deck for at the bud's house. I'm very aware of how over the top it is.
I have other deck with lots of proxies in them, some lewd, some not that I do run at the lgs every week.
LGS just asks me or anyone else playing with proxies to bring it up with them in the rule 0 to see if they are okay with it. Someone has refused to play against me once in 2 or so years.
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>>98523567
No one will flip their lid because someone's got proxied lands but they will absolutely chimp if every single fucking card is an AI proxy. Even some of the staunchest proxy players are at least using real basic lands.
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>>98523590
I know a lot of people who proxy basics.
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>>98523429
Is AI really all it takes to farm this many (you)s?
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Proxytards whining about people proxying art will never be unfunny, like pick up the card retard if you cant understand at a glance you have a skill issue or sumthing haha
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>>98523585
Some people only see what they want to see unforunately
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>>98523609
Or just ask what the card is again.
>>98523608
Yes.
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>>98523616
You'd know if you actually played the game lmao
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>>98523609
It does seem rather ironic that this general is saying to buy 1 dollar bootlegs over a 20 dollar card, but also saying to buy a 60 dollar art commission instead of just using AI.
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>>98523608
Any mention of proxies will get the two shitposters here to go apeshit for a solid two hours. At this point I find them more disruptive than the guy who spammed cards. Because they often bring up proxies when no one was talking about them, such as here >>98520771
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>>98523622
Any monkey can play the game for free so i'm not surprised you cant ascend past free stuff lol
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>>98523608
Yes.
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>>98523633
>look at the vergil post
Where's the lie there?
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>>98523626
It really is funny huh?
Also did you know that furries are 100% against ai and will go rabid at the mention of it? Haha what a coinkydink...
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>>98523646
Awooga
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>98523646
You don't deserve a (you) for that awful slop of a b8 post.
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I genuinely hate you fuckers so much for starting the gay dragon meme. I spent $40 on this card and I can't play it anymore because every time I do someone makes a joke about Smaug looking gay. So now I just have a $40 piece of cardboard that's a worthless paperweight sitting in my binder.
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>>98523679
Lighten up, chandra
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>>98523688
Imagine being this weak willed.
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>>98523688
he's so fruity. this bitch won me every game in prerelease
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>>98523698
I don't identify as a fag or trans so I'm not putting fag cards in my deck.
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>>98523706
Seethe in silence then bitch boy
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>>98523710
You caused this by forcing your shitty meme everywhere.
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>>98523688
If you dont wanna be a gay faggot dont play the gay faggot card very simple anon
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>>98523688
Should've proxied it instead. Would've been a lot cheaper desu senpai
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>>98523716
If I have time tomorrow because I go game I'm going to try and print this off as a proxy
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>>98523716
holy shit this might be the best custom art I'll ever see in my life
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>>98523186
I always win when i open boosters, must suck being a lucklet.
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>>98523646
>get disappointed that we don't have more cute girl gobbos
>see this
now i'm disappointed and somewhat hard
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>>98523734
Getting hard from AI is kinda gay bro
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>>98523741
yeah hence the disappointment. put a bag over her AI gobbohead and it'll be fine
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>find the perfect guard for a gimmick I'm trying to make realizable (requires keeping a lot in hand and getting through a few turns)
>oh everyone gets to cycle this'll be real fun at the table
>single print card, $40min for a non torn-to-shit copy
I hate this game sometimes. Yes yes I know I'm drawing a proxy as we speak
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>>98523769
*perfect card.
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>>98523769
Buy one anyway and use a proxy as a stand in.
Same reason I don't use my real goblin wizard card.
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>>98523769
>single print card, $40min for a non torn-to-shit copy
And this is the reason I'll never be against proxying. Shitty, near-unplayable cards from 1994 that've never been printed again should not have to cost this much
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>>98523793
>Be an old card, that wasn't collected enough
>Be a good card on top of it
>Why is it expensive?!
Supply and demand. Bro, econ 101. You don't have to like it being that expensive, but to not understand it is the school system failing you.
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>>98523804
Actually it's because of the RL.
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>>98523804
Shitty bait senpai
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>My expensive hobby is expensive? How could this happen to me!
Blubbering poor manchildern.
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>>98523679
Fair.
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>>98523688
>trusting in tolkien estate aka dei central to not make their characters fruity and zesty
Roru rumao
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>>98523429
is this your OC? asking for a friend
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>>98523861
Yes.
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>>98523646
this shit is so fuckin funny but I cannot imagine people actually playing decks full of proxies like this

I feel slightly sketched out when I put down my Chinese reissue Italian Scrubland (you know a dual land land you can get for $200 right now) but I couldn't imagine the sheer awkwardness of this. let alone not having the actual card
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>>98523688
your fault for not opening or buying the book art one. I got a foil one out of my 2nd collector booster (bought at MSRP)

buying the standard art one is your punishment for being a cheapskate
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>>98523860
where did it go so wrong? I mean tolkien was catholic so it was wrong from the start but when did it get so wronger
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>>98523769
I member picking up a playset of these years ago for a turbo-fog deck I never got around to making. Time to make some money. Thanks anon.
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>>98523879
>paying $200 to chang for fakes
Bwahaha
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>>98523701

>using this to play my opponents rampant growth and farseek to ramp out Smaug the Impenetrable t4

I did 2 prereleases and didnt see the card once actually. first night everyone was white red and the 2nd night everyone was red/black, red/black/green or black/green
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>>98523879
I don't feel awkward about it at all. When people ask to see it, just to see what it is, you jokingly call them a pervert. Usually break the ice about the absurdity of it.
At least in my experience.
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>>98523885
The Yoo Kay is just a shithole really
Barbarians camped out in the relics of an older and superior civilization to whose beauties they are oblivious
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>>98523769
its out of stock here but this dude has it (American curator)

theres a Chinese reprinter if you're interested who has it, shipping is $15 though. but the cards get here in like a week to 10 days. and he has everything from random ass Arabian Nights stuff to the silver scroll sloppa from recent sets

also, Howling Mine?
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>>98523429
Post the Elesh Norn
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>>98523817
I'd rather spend my money on figures.
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>>98523912
I think you might be disappointed.
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>>98523907
The other US based curators have it in stock, BM isn't the only game in town. P has it and Tolarian Library (now lastgenesis) has it. Same $3
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>>98523922
gay
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>>98523922
shouldn't she have big fat tits as a mother?
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>>98523793
Almost like the RL is shit and should be abolished completely.
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>>98523934
I actually haven't used the other American curators only BM direct from USea. do those other 2 American ones actually ship in decent time? and what does P stand for I actually don't know that one. I just know of the Chinese ones and BM

I'm getting sick of BM taking 7 days to process an order, then printing the shipping label and not actually putting the package in the mail for another 4 or 5 days

the bonuses are usually pretty dope though
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>>98523890
how brain dead do you have to be that your reading comprehension made you think someone is selling foreign white (or even black) border duals for $200? much less buying them?
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>>98523975
You're preaching to the choir, my dude.
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>>98523984
How low is your comprehension that you actually bought a 100 card fake deck for more than $200
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Hey I found em! Also here is a minty 2ED Howling Mine as well for you proxy kids. I'd rather be young and play with proxies then be an oldfag with these real cards.
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>>98523987
Most of this thread is anti-proxy thoughbeit
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>>98523994
you are beyond shot out
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>>98524022
>yeah i only bought fetches and duals and cedh staples so it's not like it's $200!!
Paying anything above a mcdonald's meal for a bunch of fakes is beyond stupid
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>>98524029
Ah yes, ride out the battle of wits commander meme for all it's worth, perfect for twitter and reddit clout
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>>98523252
>>98523284
Over target.
Shut up threadschizo.
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>>98524029
This is against the rules btw
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>>98524000
Checked.
Owned a genuine, play with proxies. That's what I prefer, at least as a personal rule.
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>>98524050
D'oh. I'm gay.
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>>98524042
>shut up shut up shut up!!!!
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>>98524062
WHO
ASKED
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>>98524036
well a McDonalds meal in Florida is 8.99

lets see scrubland is $3

or ordering direct from china is $2.20

instead of paying 15 dollars for significantly shittier dual lands on eBay or where have you

I have real RL shit like Demonic Tutor, Copy Artifact and some other stuff. so no I don't have 200 dollars worth of fake cards in any given deck.

I own real fetches, a Polluted Delta is not that expensive bro
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>>98521443
I don't see the issue with it there.
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>>98524078
No one wants fortnite dnd anymore than we wanted fortnite mtg
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>>98524084
Why would you be forced to use it in your campaign?
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>>98524042
>I-I can't prove you wrong so sh-shut up!
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>>98523429
This is the only kind of proxying allowed at my table because it is honest and based.
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>>98524140
>Implying anyone asks you
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>>98524140
Based on what?
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>>98524146
deez nuts
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>>98524072
>a mcdonalds meal is $9
>i swear to god i only paid for scrubland that is literally the only fake card i bought i never bought any other fake everything else i own is legit real pinky promise
Yeah and people only get one tattoo fr fr
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>>98524045
My commander lets me break the rules.
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>>98524169
You still need to be able to manually shuffle your deck.
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All the anons arguing about proxies should just play a game on cam and settle their arguments with their cards, like real men.
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https://moxfield.com/decks/7UXUP4RerEinQxDwN8P_dw
Thoughts on this vibe? Should it just be a chatterfang deck IMO
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>>98524179
Why would I want to play with a bunch of fags playing 10k bracket 2 decks
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>>98524185
Someone is afraid to lose
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>>98524190
As afraid to lose as the people who think they need to proxy at that level.
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>>98524197
that means you're no better than us proxytards
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>>98524202
I'm not attempting to deceive anyone. Either with my deck building nor my fear to lose.
We are not the same.
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>>98524210
nta you do seem afraid to lose a game at all. Feels like you're more competitive than the proxytards
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>>98524210
Okay loser. I accept your concession.
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>>98524218
More like, I'm afraid of having my time wasted by sweatlords than simply losing.
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>>98524177
Call me out on it. You won't.
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>>98524000
can i borrow one
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>>98524388
Sure anon, swing by tomorrow and grab one.
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>>98523524
>My fake cards are more betterer than your fake cards
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>$500 staple pile
>doesn't understand basic game rules
>he doesn't understand what half the cards do because he wasn't the fucking one who built it
it's appalling how common this is.
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>>98524580
EDHREC said it was good though
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>>98524580
there's a guy at the LGS like this, really expensive cards he doesn't know what they do
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>>98524582
>>98522509
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>>98524580
Not an expensive card. But I'll never forget when someone played Blood Moon on curve only to realize he only had 2 basics in his own deck and they were both mountains in his 3 color deck.
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>>98524580
>Friend asks me to review Miirym deck he's building for a friend
>Says it's $120 budget, preferably under $100
>Look inside
>$10 wasted on Panharmonicon
>$6 wasted on Second Harvest
>$4 wasted on Counterspell
>$3 wasted on Brainstorm in a deck with like 2 ways to shuffle away bricks
>$8 spent on Spire Garden (obviously not a bad card but not cost-effective for budget decks)
>$7 spent on Rejuvinating Springs
>$2 wasted on Multiversal Incursion
>$3 wasted on Essence Flux
>In fact has a whole blink package that wastes $7 on winmore
>$2 wasted on fucking Warstorm Surge
>Tell him to cut these cards and replace them with either draw or an alternative that costs under $1 (I provide all the cards for the list)
>He refuses because "dude what if I drew all these cards in the perfect order then I'd have like a billion dragons even though 2 already demands a boardwipe to not lose"
>He argues that would make the deck way worse because he's still fixated on the fantasy of having a billion dragons with no thought to how he's going to draw into them or not die to Wrath of God
>This same person instantly concedes whenever he gets paired with me because he says I'm too good at the game
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When Trek spoilers
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>>98524645
2 months? It releases in November so it's going to be a wait
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where can i look up cards based on their effect? i wanna build a deck around her and wanna see if there are some white spells that could help cheese her out, surely there are some spells out there that can make like 4 flying things and then you just get her out like that
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I wish Bilbo, Thief in the Night had partner: dwarf. Feels like he's begging for all the red exile off the top spells.
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>>98524662
scryfall tagger is best for these things. Look up a card with an effect you want more of, click its tag, click the button that brings you to scryfall and searches that tag (and then modify it to your commander's identity, etc)
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>>98524616
>>>98524045
rejuv is down to like $4 now. dont hate on the lil nibba for trying to improve his land base. thats a great deal for a bond land where the white/black and the blue/black ones go for stupid amounts of money relatively speaking

but yeah sounds like an average n00b. "best laid plans of mice and men.'– and mtg players imagining their deck playing out perfectly with 0 interaction

when he gets sick of losing whatever shit he'll craft the deck better. he'll end up with 10 counterspells. its worth it for him to spend $8 on Swan Song. maybe even pact of negation if you can get a good deal on it (~15 still though)

hopefully he's got negate, defabricate, void slime (a bit expensive mana wise but its on flavor, and if he's in green paying expensive dragons he'll likely be set up for it), an offer you can't refuse. might even recommend siren storm tamer.

but I can almost guarantee he'll become that guy to counter everything, eventually getting up to proxying or buying force of will to protect his Timmy shit against wrath. its the natural chain of events
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>>98524473
thanks man. next FNM is gonna be great
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>>98524662
Download mana box
Create your deck
Search "create" "creature" "flying" and look.
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>>98524675
I think you're underestimating how resistant the average EDH player is to the idea of improving when they can just blame shit for their loss instead of thinking about how to play better.
"Oh I didn't draw the cards I needed" well how do you make your deck better at doing that?
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>>98524668
partner has been phased out (since its anti-commander) and at some point will be banned (since it should have never been made in the first place)
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>>98524736
>>98524668

any questions?
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>>98524736
They'll just replace it with something that's basically exactly the same but somehow worse - or in a few case, way better to the point of being broken.
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Can Rofellos be part of the 99 or he’s just straight banned? I bought one for my cube when he was about $10
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>>98524772
B A N N E D
No zest allowed
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>>98524736
Partners should have required you to shuffle one card back and start with 6 cards since you're +1 by default. I suspect they would still be broken but it would have been a more reasonable way to make them.
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>>98524782
doctor's companion is so fucking broken bros.
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>>98524775
Oh well, guess he’ll just have to chill in the cube.
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>>98524783
backgrounds and doctor's companions should be one card down too I'm not making an exception on that statement just because both were gimped in the wake of partners being busted.
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>>98524741
>Decks should be able to function without their commander
>Meta becomes 5c goodslop that doesn't even want to cast its commander
>No not like that
>Remove tuck rule to stop this
>Turns out even without tuck rule build-arounds are a glaring chokepoint and 5c goodslop can keep raping the format
>Keep printing stronger and stronger build-arounds trying to replicate Zur and Arcum
>The thing that finally stops 5c goodslop is 4c goodslop that barely cares if either commander is alive
Made your own bed with this one.
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>>98524794
Partner is fine and not busted.
>B-BUT THE PARTNER WITH ANY
That is one type of partner.
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>>98524782
I look like and do this
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>>98524850
>I look like and do this



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