Thread #001 Augmented EditionWelcome to /spys/ where you can rp your MTA character! For all questions concerning the World of Darkness, please consult the WoDg and CoDg thread>>98521608Brief rules>Threads are M20 based, although the night is long and full of whispers, lies, and half-truths. Decide your own canon but all will not believe you>all OOC discussion should be spoilered>this thread is intended for Mage the Ascension characters>this C-Sector can be accessed through mundane means or via the Digital Web>Spy's Demise is neutral groundTHREAD QUESTION>How have you altered yourself? Surely if you're a self-respecting Awakened, then you've changed yourself in some shape or form, to differentiate yourself from the Sleepers.
>>98526070>TQWell, more like I was altered for the purposes of ritual. Feminized (yeah…) as part of a ritual my Verbena siblings did. In fact, are there any masters of Life in this corner of the Digital Web? I got separated from my cabal due to a mishap and I really want to go back to normal
>>98526070>Altering yourselfImagine turning yourself into a mockery of creation's perfection just so you can be a more optimal heretic. All the skilled colleague's I've had have preserved their own divine image, as should all. Personally, I would never. Redemption is at a premium and I'm afraid we're collectively out of collateral.
>>98526167Sibling, the Wyck worked wonders on this world and changing your shape is a perfectly fine way to attune yourself to the pulse of the world. All you need to worry is to ensure your changing form is in tune with your true self and make sure you can change back (which is where I’m currently struggling with)
Technocracy slave waifu in basement, what do?
>>98526215I dunno, convince them of the error of their ways?
>>98526070I don't alter myself, but I do alter my mech suit and do some maintenance from time to time.I'm also looking for Tradition inventions that I could reverse engineer. Heard there was a silly fae cap, like the one guy in Nintendo games wear, that allows you to breath in space and not even needing to drink and eat to survive! It can even bypass umbral acclimation and prevent you turning into a an extra-dimensional being!If I could get my hands on that, it could drastically extend our missions off-world.
>>98526186God gave me this flesh and I will die in this flesh, but thank you for your advice friend. Perhaps you should meditate, however hard it might be currently, on the steps that led you towards the altered form.>>98526215Why convert her to Christendom of course!>>98526272Space isn't real, don't be silly.
>be Virtual Adept>talking with my Hermetic and Chorister bros during some downtime>the conversation veers into numerology and how it can be used for divination purposes>after they talk about their particular methods I mention I use crypto currency value flux as my focus for my divinations>they glare at me and walk away leaving me alone at the tableWTF? What did I say wrong?
>>98526298Oh, I’m meditating. I need that to contact spirits and hope at least one of them knows where did my cabal went. Damn it, why I had to be the only one willing to use any form of technology?>>98526322Using money (even fictional one) as your focus is a dark path, anon. Technocratic businesspeople are the evilest of them for a reason
>>98526298>Space isn't real, don't be sillyI know that many sleepers still believe in a flat Earth... but that's a new lowSpace is very real, I was born in a space station. Two weeks ago I was studying for my exams in zero gravity listening to lofi music.
>>98526070>TQYeah, had to replace my left arm after a partcularly messy job. I considered getting an arm transplant but I figured that a mechanical arm will offer more utility. A thick layer of durable synth-skin and nobody can tell what that thing is capable of. Being subtle is our business after all.
>>98526094Is your virality organ in good health or as result of the ritual it was enfeebled? If the former, I don't see reason to change things as the instrument of virality is intact and thus your masculine being is in balance, any further alteration might cause imbalance and thus should be avoided unless you already suffering from imbalance.
>>98526322I don't trust machines, so I can't say for sure, but crypto currency is just another side of the banking coin.>>98526356That may be a discussion for another day with your cabal over using archaic communications in the modern age. I get it, but may as well use what we have.>>98526362If space and the "vacuum" were actually real how come we aren't having lessons on the moon? It just doesn't make any sense. It must be a painting of some sort on the dome.
>>98526506My home can afford a few thousand people living on it, including guests from other stations or from Earth. On Earth there's like billions of people. You do the math to see what odds you have to get on board one of our shuttles.I've flew over the moon a few times but never got permission to land in one of its bases. I'm honestly curious what people find interesting in it. It's just a lifeless rock.
>>98526454Well, other than heavily missing my old self, everything works normally. It was supposed to be temporary, but that night got very chaotic and a lot of vulgar magic was used, so who knows>>98526506Well, our separation was unplanned. But it’s still frustrating that the others didn’t had a single contingency plan for that
Is it weird the Hermetic Deacon of our Chantry has a pet female Tzimisce around. I am not accusing him of anything I even went and asked other mages in the Chantry to see if anything had changed with him but they got nothing. I just wonder should I be worried about anything. Like if any other vampires might start targeting us or appear. The relationship itself between the Deacon and the vampire is oddly romantic if it is the right word. They act like a married couple. Which would be fine if the woman he loves wasn’t a vampire. So should I be concerned or kind of accept as the deacon having bad taste in women.
>>98526559I pressume the fascination comes from the bioenergies that can be harvested from the celestial tissue of the Moon. Though, it is debatable how wise is it to harvest from a dead divinity. >>98526600In that case, I recommend patience to see if your spirit will bend the form into proper shape, after all. If your current state pesist, despite your longing, you should visit me, I'm currently in Earthly Reality, Prague.
BTW I’m grounded. Forced to stay on Earth with other teens my age and attend Earth school with the other sleepers due to insubordination.And I’m BORED out of my mind here! I’m forbidden to go into my mech suit. Sports aren’t in low or high gravity, they’re freaking lame. Classes are stupid easy, or full of shit. There’s no holodeck, food at the cafeteria can’t match the most basic bitch replicator, also most other students are complete morons. Like why do I have to care about Stacy dating a football player and why should it ever affect my social status? I used to fight aliens in space to protect the world! Earth freaking sucks. Anyone have any idea what fun a teen with a curfew and military instructors as “parents” can have?>>98526738Divinity? I thought people on Earth mostly worship a bearded guy in the sky. Or money.
>>98526738Thanks, great one. Prague’s very far from my current location but I’ll keep your advice in mind>>98526868Show respect. This world gave birth to your ancestors and even your silicon-and-numbers addicted masters care about its well being
>>98526868>sleepersNo shit you're grounded, you're using superstitionist lingo. Kids these days, no respect for hierarchy.
>>98526939God you sound just like dad. If the world is so important, I should be out there fighting aliens in my suit instead of sitting on useless classes like Philosophy, or maths and sciences I’ve already learned years ago. Our troops are already stretched thin as it is>>98527017And now it’s mom. Fiiiiiiine. The “masses” and “un-enlightened”. Can’t catch a break even in online forums.
>>98527111But do you know why the world is important? Do you actually care or you just see it as an excuse to blow up stuff in the Deep Umbra?Granted, your technocrat “caretakers” (as much as they’re capable of caring) probably only gave you the sterile version of this. So let me give you an advice: go out, break the script. Explore whatever town you’re currently in and, especially, the woods around it (if you’re fortunate enough to have them near). Feel the world and what’s life like outside the overly scrubbed parts the techies maintain
>>98527111I'm guessing you never ran into a Man in White before? I'd be very careful of what you say, especially with in a place populated by deviants of all sorts. I'm not in the business of reporting others to the Ivory Tower over minor bullshit, I leave that to the bureaucrats. You better learn to enjoy your stay here, this is what all the normal people have to deal with. Remember that things could always be worse, for example, you could have been born in Sleepytown.
>>98527219Of course I know why it's important! Terra is the cradle of mankind! The first bastion when we set out for the stars above and our last fortress if we are ever pushed back by the entites from beyond. It's so basic that anyone knows that! Do you even have to ask what love is to someone? it's so obvious.Besides, we have trees and orchards on the space station. I can even simulate forests with the holodeck. What's so good about about walking in the woods on Earth anyway. It's not like there's anything special to it...>>98527767Well our instructors do usually receive the visit of officials biweekly. Same for dad too when I was still up there. We were told never to bother them. I'd usually ignore that, but mom was way too serious when she told me that. Sent a chill down my spine.I guess I'll enjoy school and its lameness or whatever. If that's all you adults care about. Even more than alien threats apparently. And I guess that sleepytown is just code for boring-ville, central station of nothing happening? If it's the case then I'm already there dude
>>98527928Not him, but you probably should stay out of the woods. There's plenty of dangerous things here on earth too.
>>98527928>starship troopers-esque propaganda I admire your dedication, mate, but loving a military poster version of the World is not the same as loving the real thing. You love the (heavily biased, I should add) portrait while sneering at the real lady>thinks the holographic trees and the sterile technocracy approved trees are the same as the actual onesPlease, do yourself a favor. Go on a camping trip somewhere with actual forests. No electronics, just survival gear. Experience what nature is actually like and you’ll realize there’s much more to care aboutOh, my hollow ones hosts are saying you need to explore the city clubs and the underworld. I can’t say much there, though, because I’m better acquainted with the untamed wilds>>98527986C’mon, I’m not asking him to go out naked and speak with the wolves. That’s too advanced for him currently
>>98527928>Sent a chill down my spine.Yeah, people who represent Control tend to do that. Also, don't take advice from deviants, especially when they're trying to lure you away from your construct. You better contact your local Watchers and ask them for a threat assessment of the local area, you don't want to run into a pack of rabid fleabags. They're not the easiest target, trust me.> And I guess that sleepytown is just code for boring-ville, central station of nothing happening?I'm afraid I can't give you a peoper explanation since it's a matter related to a different convention. Why is there an isolated town along a highway that leads to nowhere?
>>98527986I guess there are. Nothing much worse that what's coming from outside the asteroid belt I bet. Anyway I'm stationed in a boring nowhere city. Ain't nothing bigger than a skunk or a raccoon in the forest.>>98528225>I admire your dedication, mate, but loving a military poster version of the World is not the same as loving the real thing. You love the (heavily biased, I should add) portrait while sneering at the real ladyWhat's the issue? Up there I'm doing important stuff, while here I'm wasting my time with things that don't even matter. Just because I refused to follow orders a few times. I won those battles! I prevented casualties! Just because I expose myself to more danger shouldn't be a reason to ground me.Plus in space there's so much cool and advanced stuff. Here it's all mundane and boring.>Please, do yourself a favor. Go on a camping trip somewhere with actual forests. No electronics, just survival gear. Experience what nature is actually like and you’ll realize there’s much more to care aboutCan't go out without the instructors' permission. And they'll never give it. Best I can hope for is them taking us on a survival camp in the woods.Also it's *her*
>>98528318>Yeah, people who represent Control tend to do that.They're that bad? All I know is that dad said that our colony enjoys freedoms that most organisations we work for cannot even dare to ask. But also to always be careful because those freedoms can always be taken away. Like studying the "deviants" and their "magic". Dad accepts that magic exists and it's pretty much the same as our enlightened science, except that we can make a process to make it available to the masses, while also cost and time efficient. That's why our way is the best, but we have to be responsible about it.I personally leave the inventing and tech gizmos to R&D. I'll just fight aliens... though I made the request for the fae cap if anyone ever gets their hands on one. Part of the "freedom" I enjoy. Dad told me not to bet on it arriving anytime soon.>Also, don't take advice from deviants, especially when they're trying to lure you away from your construct. You better contact your local Watchers and ask them for a threat assessment of the local area, you don't want to run into a pack of rabid fleabags. They're not the easiest target, trust me.I'm basically a soldier in rank. Ever if my role is way more important. I don't have the authority to ask, nor do I know where to look for those answers myself. Also what's the fleabags?>I'm afraid I can't give you a peoper explanation since it's a matter related to a different convention. Why is there an isolated town along a highway that leads to nowhere?I don't know. Could be a military town to test new weaponry? Like they did decades ago for nukes?
>>98528325>it’s “her”Oh, sorry sister. I swear, someone put a curse on me to always get the genders wrong when I use gendered language >”what’s the issue, up there I’m doing important stuff”The “why” matters. I can sense you love fighting umbrood but the vision of the world the Technocracy offers is bland and soulless. You’d find much more strength in your spirit if you could feel what the world really is. The flow of Life, Gaia’s pulse, the potential the Wyck have left us. If you can expand your mind you’ll see this is a better future than infinity New Yorks that your current wards offer>best I can hope for is a survival campBetter than nothing, just try sneaking out and feel the nature alone. Even a few minutes will give more insight than whatever manuals of biology you currently have>>98528318>threat assessmentFuck’s sake, can’t you techies do anything without a spreadsheet to say if it’s a good or a bad idea?
>>98528440>They're that bad? They're a union-wide version of internal affairs, making sure everyone is following the rules. They have the power to do a lot of things and they're well-versed in Mind procedures. I think you can see why they'd make someone feel uneasy.>Also what's the fleabags?Lycanthropes. The masses know them as "werewolves". Most steer clear of civilization and can be found in places where there's few people. Dangerous, unpredictable and hard to kill. They worship EDEs as some strange religion. >Could be a military town to test new weaponry?They're doing a lot of testing, just not weapons. It's a lot more peaceful. >>98528441I know you mystics are sloppy by default but some of us like to have details. Look at it this way, you and your palls are all bad, right? Well, some of you can be handled by an associate with a gun and others need a dedicated strike team and proper procedures.
There is a principle of nature that almost every creature knowsIt's called survival of the fittest and this is how it goesThe animal that wins has got to claw and kick and punchThe animal that doesn't winds up someone else's lunchA company's an animalThat's trying to surviveIt's struggling and fightingJust to keep itself aliveI must keep BiggeringI'm figgering on Biggering Though Biggering is triggering more biggering
Ugh, people suck. Someone stole a rare book about druidic rituals I needed from the local library. And the librarian has no idea who did it because she was busy with an old man who apparently was also stealing a book at the same time>>98528618Stop trying to make the young lady scared of the woods, garou don’t usually attack untainted humans (except for red talons, but they make obvious where they live and humans are very much not welcome)
>>98528441Well no worries. It’s not like I specifically referred to myself as a woman.>The “why” matters. I can sense you love fighting umbrood but the vision of the world the Technocracy offers is bland and soulless. You’d find much more strength in your spirit if you could feel what the world really is. The flow of Life, Gaia’s pulse, the potential the Wyck have left us. If you can expand your mind you’ll see this is a better future than infinity New Yorks that your current wards offerI guess having a good look at what I’m fighting for might be a good motivator. I might try to follow your advice if we do survival camp.>>98528618>They're a union-wide version of internal affairs, making sure everyone is following the rules. They have the power to do a lot of things and they're well-versed in Mind procedures. I think you can see why they'd make someone feel uneasy.Oh. Yeah. Never needed for guys like that up there but I understand why everyone’s anxious.>Lycanthropes. The masses know them as "werewolves". Most steer clear of civilization and can be found in places where there's few people. Dangerous, unpredictable and hard to kill. They worship EDEs as some strange religion.Wait, like in the movies and games? Sounds fun. I’d like to tango with one. Though I’m not used to pilot with Earth’s gravity.>They're doing a lot of testing, just not weapons. It's a lot more peacefulDoesn’t sound that bad. I guess.
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>>98529700Nature holds a lot of wisdom, I can assure you won’t walk away empty handed from communing with it, even for a short while >wanting to fight a werewolfOh dear, I apologize from sounding like an overbearing parent, but… don’t. Garou (that’s the name werewolves use for themselves) were created for war. Their warriors can bench press your power armor and their spirit magic will put your best technology out of commission before you can fire the first shot, and on top of that they rarely are alone. Only the most skilled of the Awakened can hope to have an actual chance at beating one in a straight fight
>>98529700Merlin is right about Garou being powerful, but the ones who live near or in civilization (Yes, some DO live amongst us. unlike that black-suit said) aren't going to attack you just for going into the woods.
>>98529700>I’d like to tango with one.That I don't doubt. Planning, sympathizers and powerful procedures are your best friends. I know you VEs like your toys fancy but sometimes the subtle approach works just fine. No need for hardsuits when a team of educated citizens with proper equipment can get the job done. Make sure to contact Iteration X before going into battle, steelheads always were good at killing things and keeping track of what gets the job done. I always carry some silver bullets with me even when I'm not sent to some shithole in the middle of nowhere, even cities aren't always safe. Also, I wouldn't recommend going after them unless you're ordered to do so. Last thing we need is to lose a young enlightened mind. >>98530372>black-suitI really don't want to give the spooks credit but they did a great job at positioning themselves as the poster boys of our lovely union.
>>98530118What? That can't be right. I pilot some of the most advanced tech there is. How come those werewolves don't dominate the Earth if they're that strong?>>98530372Your sentence implies that they attack people, even if they won't go after me specifically for walking in the woods.>>98529841FUCK! One xeno breached into our connection!Or I'm being pranked...
>>98532233How come some citizens can pose a threat to those deviants if our hardsuits can't do the job? Even worse, apparantly they can turn them off.And anyway I myself have no way to contact anyone on Earth or above except for our instructors. Or rather, I have no contact info. And silver bullets? Like in the movies?
just came back down from my latest high and none of the other joybringers can make heads or tails of it so i was told to ask around hereone of them is a big maori motherfucker, he brought some mushies over from new zealand when he came here and has been cultivating them ever since, i've been begging for some of that shit for ages and he finally caved, looked a bunch of slimy blue alien eggs before i cut em up and dried emi didn't want to go too wild with it so i figured i would mellow that shit out by going half-and-half with some good old atlantis, anyway i laid down for a while after i dosed up and just waited for that shit to kick inanyway when i got up i was in some big fucking treewe're talking about branches bigger than highways with zero chance of falling off unless you're stupid enough to go to the edge, and naturally i was just that retarded, i just had to have a look at the ground belowgot a bit wobbly but kept myself from falling, it felt like i was looking down from mount everest or some shit, but all i could see was more tree, just loads of roots spreading out from the base of it and spreading out as far as the eye could see, think i saw some big fucking snake down there too, or maybe it was just the vertigohad a walk around for a couple of hours and got a bit hungry, so i picked some of the fruit hanging from its branches and ate them, tastiest thing that's ever been in my mouth, like mangoes made of honey or some shitanyway not longer after i got hassled by some big fucking bird the size of a house, it seemed to want something so i gave up a bag of gold caps i had in my pocket, fella calmed down a bit after he helped himself to that shitbirdy followed me for a while as i climbed a bit higher but the higher i got the less like a tree it was and the more like a mountain it got, all stony and snowy and shitmaybe i was getting too close to birdy's nest or something because he picked me up and dropped me off the edge
>>98532427fell for what felt like a couple of hours before i landed in some river flowing between the roots, almost drowned but i managed to swim to the surface and as soon as i did, i was back where i had laid downother joybringers said i just up and vanished while they weren't looking and none of them saw me come out of the trip eitherthis was about a week ago and i've been dreaming of snakes every night ever sinceanyone know what any of this means? it was almost as weird as the time i ended up on the moon after a mix of tampa and nana, but it was pretty good until the falling part, might give the maori mushies another shot
>>98532394Don't listen to deviant "advice". Most of them talk like they know anything about what our equipment is capable of after surviving an encounter with some construct black suits. Back when the Pogrom was in full swing my convention had orders to shoot these freaks on sight. You see, they can disguise themselves to look like your standard Joe Average or a wolf. That's when you want to strike since they're at their weakest. A hitman, car bomb, firing squad, you name it. But what if they do transform? Well, you equip your backup with proper weapons and hope they last long enough to get the kill. Heavy firepower, silver, hyper napalm and the aid of Devices is advised, a few HIT marks (I recommend the old Mark Vs, that chaingun is there for a reason. Or a mark IX if you get unlucky enough that some deems it necessary to deploy one) never hurt. Your convention should know a thing or two about fighting them, you're the ones who specialise in Dimensional Science. I only know the very basics, enough to spot deviants from the great beyond.
Well, I had an odd morning. I spent the night communing with the earth and the spirits that dwell in it to find leads on the thief. I was guided to a strange crime scene: an unfortunate homeless person was being taken away by an ambulance. I asked the paramedics and he was apparently poisoned with methanol and his chances of survival are low. Veil (one of the local hollow ones) was around and she used her skills with Time to visualize what happened and that’s when things get weird: the poor old person was given tainted drink by someone who stole all the change he had once he was unconscious. The visions didn’t give more than a rough outline of the culprit (a 30-ish(?) man) so we are currently looking for more leads>>98532233Please do not encourage her, I’d presume your spreadsheets would tell you this is not a worthwhile engagement to do casually >>98532280They used to, in ancient times. I don’t have enough knowledge to give a proper explanation, but from what I do know they lost a lot to infighting >>98532394Yes, thanks to their ancient pact with Luna. Pray (if you are the type who does) you never fight a garou, but this one piece of knowledge is your best edge should you find yourself stuck fighting one>>98532427I hope your ecstatic siblings had an adept of Life close by
>>98532566I'm not encouraging her, just making sure she's not going in blind in case she gets sent on a mission.
>>98532427>>98532430Oh I think I've read some files on you guys. You're psychics, am I right? Enlighted who are able to manifest and manipulate phenomenons with their brain, and using psychadelics as an activator? Sounds like an easy time, except that those drugs will fry your brain and body in the long run, and psychics' control of their phenomenons are shaky at best. Due to being high.I don't really get your dream, but dad always told me that problems are easier to solve if we divide them into smaller, easier to understand parts.>>98532516Well, that's good to know. Though I'm uncomfortable with the idea of shooting them on sight. I understand defense, or if they become a threat, but... I fight extra-dimensional beings because they're a danger to humanity. Killing something born on Earth feels like... shooting someone on my own team. Even if they're not.>Your convention should know a thing or two about fighting them, you're the ones who specialise in Dimensional Science. I only know the very basics, enough to spot deviants from the great beyond.Dad might know more about it. As well as being overseer of the space station, he's also head of R&D. Heard rumors that he once got his hands on devices from them that he's studying, but I never believed them until now. Cuz I wasn't sure werewolves existed before you guys confirmed it yesterday.>>98532566I guess they had an empire, and like all empires it bloated and imploded and they fought amongst themselves until only tribes and small societies remain. Learned that at school, thought I bet it's not totally accurate. Shame I can't mod my mech suit right now, I'd give it a silver coating.
>>98532280Look, some Werewolves might try to kill you for littering, but others are fully in support of peace with humanity(of course, that comes with the condition of living in harmony with Gaia)>>98532516don't assume the human form is when they're weakest, it's the form most of them are used to after all.
>>98526070Augmentation? I was an augmentation at birth. Me and my sister were brought into this world with no mother or father, just some ethereal experiment, the Professor wanted two perfect exemplars of masculinity & femininity. He gave us many enhancements over the human chaff
>>98526559The Moon has life, its just hidden in the Hollow. Hidden from your kind, & for a reason
>>98532766what "extra-dimensional beings" are out there? I've only seen animal spirits, elementals, ancestor spirits and emotion spirits in the near umbra. >>98533054Ethereal experiment? Like a familiar?
>>98533253>like a familiarNo, more like Frankenstien without the corpses, my sister & I were created out of the ethereal to coalesce in the caul of a philosopher stone. We were children & have grown to teens, professor said we shoukd reach adulthood & then stop aging. He wanted us immortal
>>98533351>created out of the etherealit sounds a lot like what I've heard about creating vessels for spirits to inhabit. I did not think it was possible to create a being wholesale, with an avatar and everything, is it an effect of philosopher stone?
>>98532766>Killing something born on Earth feels like... shooting someone on my own team.Many things are born on earth, not all of them good. Nephandi come from here and I don't see anyone hesitate when it comes to getting rid of them. Same applies here, these creatures are the antithesis of what we're trying to achieve.>>98532932If I don't need to unload a shitload of Prime-enchanced munitions into them then they're at their weakest. Also, only humans have things like bank accounts and social standing. Nothing but weakpoints.
>>98532932I vaguely recall our mistress saying something about garou being at their weakest in their birth form. Do you happen to know more?>>98532766Caution when picking your targets is important, young one. Garou may be hostile but they fight things far worse such as banes (vile spirits of rot and corruption) and those possessed by them. And you’d be surprised at how influential their master is over the world, some nephandi even worship it. It’s a shame how xenophobic they are, we share many enemies who threaten the very existence of our world yet we can’t work together to stop them
>>98533544>>98533629Well, there is variance depending on what age they had their first change, past life experiences, but werewolves in homid form are capable of guerilla tactics and city living, y'know? for example I once met one who was a hitman before his first change. As for them being at their weakest in birth form, I suppose the other forms are stronger than the human form, but they're for different purposes, not just combat.
>>98533923Yeah, those smart enough to hide amongst the masses have always been the trickiest. Witnesses don't make anyone's job easier and my prefered methods would lead to collateral damage. Their presence, in and of itself, is a minor issue. The fact that they try to spread their deviant influence to the masses is the real issue. NWO really needs to step up their game or get the fuck out of our way.
>>98533467We arent the first artificial life made by Mages, nor the first with an avatar. It seems many Sons of Ether, some Hermetics & Technocrats too, dabble in creating life. Me & my sister are not that notable.>>98533629Garou arent weak in any form, theyre just talking about how their regenitive powers dont work in their birth form. Not that its much of a weakness. It would call down hunters all too easy if they regenerated wounds in front of others whilst in human form. Theres a certain symmetry in live.Plus not everyone can be immortal
I’m totally pissed off now!One of my teammates at school called me and the gang by our code names! And that moron had to share the stories behind them too! I want to scream!>>98532932Gaia? Isn’t that a pagan deity from thousands of years ago? Well, if some are peaceful it’s good to know>>98533070Listen here Men in Back-to-the-factory-you-should-go! I already got a crappy day and you ain’t helping!>>98533253I don’t know the details. We’re not privy to everything. Or we don’t get the time to be explained stuff before being. Fought all kind of colored aliens. Tall and small. Some looking like right out of hell. Also lots of robots. Like the worse AI uprisings ever imagined.>>98533544I see… I’m aware of Nephandi. They send those hellish creatures on us. Many people I know died to their servants.
Forgot to use my name too! Today is so annoying!>>98533629>Caution when picking your targets is important, young one. Garou may be hostile but they fight things far worse such as banes (vile spirits of rot and corruption) and those possessed by them.Huh. So they’re soldiers like me.>And you’d be surprised at how influential their master is over the world, some nephandi even worship it.Absolutely revolting.>It’s a shame how xenophobic they are, we share many enemies who threaten the very existence of our world yet we can’t work together to stop themWe share the same enemy, but not the same vision. They wouldn’t be declared as deviants if they weren’t.
>>98534046Listen, "doctor" (or T-800, whatever), your quest against "reality deviancy" would probably go better if you targeted the actual evil shit like Wyrm tainted cosmetic factories instead of going off against anything and everyone slightly weird>>98535092>>98535140>isn't she a pagan goddess?Yes, and she is real, although many debate what is her true nature. Some see her as the very embodiment of the very concept of life, others as a "mere" goddess of earth. Some (werewolves in particular) see her as the creator of everything while others disagree. The topic of gods and. powerful spirits a very long discussion, but what you need to know is that she is real and garou were created to be her sword and shield (well, mostly the former). My mistress could answer more questions since the garou and their beliefs are among her specialties, once I find her>absolutely revoltingOh, indeed, my dear. And what I'm sharing is merely what I know about. The rot runs deep and the work to heal the world is hard>we share the same enemy, but not the same visionDarling, you're young and hot blooded. This attitude can easily lead you in a dark path many don't come back from. Understand that 2 different ways of viewing the picture aren't always in conflict and that there are problems best solved with a gentle touch rather than a firm hand. Obviously do not let that lead to complacency and forget when to your proverbial sword. But rather, listen to what those outside your carefully curated world have to say and be understanding
>>98532280T̷͉̤͔̘̓̍H̵͙͙̺̙͐̃̄͌́͠Ẽ̷̛͔͙̺̣͐̓̈́͠ ̷̢̰͙̩̻̓͆̍͆̕͜͝C̸̡͕̹̥̍́͗̏Ở̵͍̗̥̬̫̝͗͑̀L̴̼̗̖̗̤͕͉͂͠Ơ̷̢̥̺͖̼̖̳̿̈́̌̓̈́̍Ư̸̖͚͕̪̮̒͠R̴̡̖̘͔̓͌̍̆͝ͅ ̴̧͙̦̊O̸͖̮͉̗̤̳͈͌͌̒̊̾F̸̥̫̼̺͐ ̴̜̭̪̯̜͛̓̍T̷̢̬̪̝̩͂H̴̬͕͙͚̥̬͆̓̉̿Ẹ̶̜͍̱̍̂̄̈͋̈́̄ ̴̻̘̮͙͔͉̐̋̕̚W̸̞̫̟̠̜̎̒̈́ͅÄ̷̧̖͇̙̮͍̮́̑̌̈L̴̘̯̚L̵̺͖̝̙̩̇͘͝S̵̸̶̨̱̪͕̗͍̦͖͙̈̀̏̆̐͌̒̉̒̕͜͝͠͝T̵͔̠̮͓̟͕̑̏̂͌̑ͅH̷̻͂̂Ę̵̫̺̼͎͐̄̓ ̸̬͈͙̘̟͉͖́̾̈̎̍̚̚S̸̼̘̻̝̠͓̟͐H̷̖̯̋A̵̛͇͖͉͆̿́͛̾ͅṔ̴̭̦̦̈́͝Ę̵̩̀͑̃̿̈́̔ ̷̡͓̞̭͈͔̈́O̷̘̟͊̏F̷̞̑ ̸̟̖̣̘̀͆̓͘S̷͖̝̥͙̮̼͛̽̾͝͝P̷̢̝̳͉̆A̷̦̮̯͓̋͑Ç̴͖̺̀̉̑̐͒͘Ẹ̸̷̷̡̡̺̙͇̘̠̥͗̓͐̈́̈́̽͒̌̕̕͘͜͠Ḭ̵́̽̕ ̶̰͂̚W̷̰͕͍̠̾̔Ǎ̷͉̯̓́̓̃Ş̵̜̠̠̤̗͊̎̓̕͠ ̷͙̦͈̱͖͙̀͋̈̏̎̋Ā̴̢̗̦͙͈̖͗͂͜͠ ̷̱͉͚́͆̋̈́̈́̽̚M̴̨̜̰̯̓̊́͝A̶͈̯͚̐̇N̴̞̹̓̓,̶̮̥̯͔̙́̔̌͗̽͘͜ ̵̢̈́̃̑̐̆Ȯ̶͎̩͇͇̰͎͐͆̕̚͝ͅÑ̸̤̩͕̘̦̊C̴̙͔͙͚̹̄̐́̕̕͜Ȩ̵̸̙͎̹̺͙̪̫̻́̍͐͐͑́̕͝
>>98535092I'm not a Man in Black (or at least I think thats what youre calling me?)My sister & I go our own way our power is through Alchemical Philosophies but it has become clearer that this may all be a misunderstanding. The way magic happens is so interesting. Some lunatic can caper in a park & chant the name of dead gods, to do what a virtual adept can do with a mouse click, meanwhile the lunatic can snap his fingers & do what a virtual adept would consider completely impossible my any metric. The differences in ritual, processes & result are all based on preconceived notions. Yet these ideas also weigh together to chain us all in their rules.Of course then there are the petty magic practitioners who somehow weild small power without price, sometimes even power our brethren mages cannot grasp.The Professor can breath on the moon where you need an air tank. He can crush stone in his hand thanks to a tattoo some South American shaman gave him, yet you need a mech suit. You shoot aliens who you think invade this world yet claim a Cloister is backwards when he claims demons claw up from Hell. Its all such nonsense, yet I know not the Truth either
>>98535386Who are you to rule over others when you lack the capacity? Did you not admit to having that stolen by your coven? Let this star-void valkyrie come to her own in time. Guidance of the road enslaves the trailblazer. By giving her advice you put lenses on her eyes. You would with one hand steal her from her masters & with the other put your own chains on her wrists.
>>98535872I... think you misunderstood something. The only theft that happened was a rare book of druidic lore and I'm currently trying to track down the thiefAnd I claim ruleship over nothing. Offering a different perspective is not stealing agency from someone, if anything it's essential to ensure hers given how strictly filtered and curated he world is
>>98535449You a Nephandi too! Always nice to see a brother from the same infernal father man! Or maybe you're a minor sect member. Hey! We all are gonna kill each other anyway!Man, everyday is a good day to be having a bad day! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
>>98535092aliens and robots? Spirits based upon human ideas of such things, I suspect. as for the garou? They're willing to kill for peace, they love it so much.
>>98535386Well, I don’t think that deviants have to die. But conflict is inevitable between our species. Between our nations. Between our very ways of life. Morals… thinking even. I’m just glad that I’m not mandated to hunt anything else than extraterrestrial beings.>Oh, indeed, my dear. And what I'm sharing is merely what I know about. The rot runs deep and the work to heal the world is hardYou know, our very first contact with the Nephandi we were ambushed and our squad were handed our first loss since its inception… and we lost a member. His name was Rock. Well, his nickname was. Used to collect soil and minerals from other planets and even asteroids. Even dirt from Earth was like a treasure to him. Silly… right? After the boot camp and pilot training we only did two missions before he died. We just began bonding… and it still haunts me. Perhaps… we could have been friends.I want to kill them. The Nephandi. I want to tear them apart. I just can’t imagine whatever world I want to live in exist while they do. I guess that I got that in common with higher ups and how they view deviants.>>98535449I’m reporting you to the instructors. Let’s see how much of a man is left once you face Earth’s protectors!>>98535932Piss off!
>>98536054Lets be polite friend! We are all brothers against Reality!I can get you a presy-present! I'll look around my sources see if the Nephandi who killed your friend Rock took his soul!Puppet his personality to give you a tortured message beyond the grave! Ha! Ha! Ha!Side note, why are we called Nephandi and not Nephrandi? I think the R makes the word look and sound cooler!Hope you have a bad day and I hope your bad day is a good one!
>>98535929Considering your posts here>>98526094>>98526600Youre going to tell me they didnt abscond with your masculinity? Pathetic.If you understand even the basics of our world & our power you must know that influence over thought IS robbing a Mage of their agency. Just because one seeks to gaol her does not give you the right to make her your slave. Challenge notions but never plant your own. Your vile advice is no different than grabbing her by the wrist to lead her to your forested glades of blood.
>>98536175What is missing inside you?
>>98536249Great question, friend!We could break it down as something simple, trauma from some childhood, life event, or birth defect. But whistling down people to pure fact is nothing! Ha ha ha! People are unreasonable and many people who have experienced trauma have grown to not be Nephandi!What I'm missing is what I have chosen to given up! My soul! That's boring though, the real question is why? Many Nephandi have many answers to that question as many as the countless thoughts and reasons of why we bend reality anyway!!! Ha! Ha! Ha!The reason why I have gave up my soul is easy! Because I wanted to! I suppose it would be easy to say I am missing common sense, but pure want is a reason in my opinion!I am not happier like this. In fact, I've never felt worse then ever! Yet, I am happier like this. In fact, I've never felt better then ever!
>>98536386This is untrue,If you had sold your soul, you would be a simple infernalist. Nephanfi are not soulless by nature, they are simply Ascending the wrong way. So were you born missing or did you turn yourself outside in by choice?
>>98535932T̷̡͓̗̱̻̳̳̝̑̀̍́̓̈͑͑̒̋̽͝͝ͅͅŖ̴̺̟͕͇̯̘̗̭̹̤̇͜A̶̡̳̻͚̬̯̱̼̫̘̙̳̐̿͗̈́̇͑̍̄̽̊I̶̡̟͔̖̙̫͖̗̠̠̣̫͓͕̟͓͈͈̒̾̀͜Ţ̶̧̨̨̛̮̝͓͎̪̠͇̭̰͕͚̰̪̮͇̹͈̫͙̖̼͔̖͐̔̓̓̍͂̈͂̍̐̀̊̎͂̃̈́͋́́̐̕͘͘͘͜͠͝Ỏ̶͙̭̗͒̈̋̍̎̎̌̆̉̆̆̌̽́̈́̓͛̓̔͒̓̚̚R̷̢̡̡͕̫̟̖̼̳̝̘̹̼̥̯̠͕̟̠̜͔̖̖̻͎̰̭͖̝̆̊̋̓̀̍̓̈̓̑̉̕͜ͅͅÏ̸̟̠͖̈́͝ ̴̧̢̝̹̰̱͗̏̈́͂̚P̴͎̺̈̓͂Ṟ̸̡̺̩̗̘͙̯̊̓̐̇Ë̴͙́́̆̂̋̓͠͝F̵̪̍̈́̑̊̾̈́̏̆̈́͝Ë̵̱̯́̾͂́̌̓̉R̷̜͌̀̋̓̇̇̑̓ ̸̛͙͕̫̰̭̼̘̖̳̘̉̂̑̂͗͗Ţ̸̧̛̞̔̌͌̈͋͘̚͜͝Ḩ̴̡̦͇̯̰̜̻̪̖̮̦͌́͊̀̉̔̚̚Ë̶̢̹̯̬͍̼́́̍̑̂́̏͒͐͘̕͘ ̴̖̭̀̏̽͛̔̋͝͝B̶̧̮̬̫̭̠͚̞̣̑͗͜͝I̶̢̠̰̭͌̓̊̌̓̀́̑͐͒͋͝N̴̡̼͈͇͓̾̾̿͛̾͂͝D̶͍͉̺̻͕̒͊͒̃̌͋͘I̵̪͔̭̟̜̠̗̼̝͈͆̓̀̂̍͛͝͝ͅͅN̷̯̎́̇͂̾̈́̀͌̾̉͊͝G̴̘̦̟͕̔͊̊ ̴̡͎̹̭͕̦̘̳͛̓͋̈́̋̑̋͊͗O̸̢̧͕͔̫̖̺̊́̌̍͊N̶̨̳̰͉̬̜̞̠̯͊͌͘ͅE̶̻̺̯̘̗̣̗͖̘͕̋̒̍̒̀̋͋̓́̕͘Ṡ̸̶̷̖̱̠̳̬͓̖̖̦̗͈̤̹̝̻̜͂͌̈́͗͑͛̂͒̆̓͆͋́̄͋B̸̡̢̦͔͉̜͉̻̌̆̀̄͂̑̇͠͝Ú̶̢̠̥͇͓̱͐̏̐͌́͋́͗T̴̢͙͆̓̀́̌̓͒̇̄͊́͠ͅ ̵͉͉͓̪̔̄Ȉ̴̠̘̱͍̟̻͚̖͇̓́̓̒͂͂͠ ̵̨̡͖̫̤̞̔̇̆C̵͚̮̱͍̐̔̏̔́͌A̷͍̦̺̗̘̜͈̜͛̋͜N̵̨̬̠̥̬̩̬̩͍̟̦͖̐̑̈́̓̊̔ ̵̢̪͐͑M̸̨͉͖̪͖̞͆̃A̶͖̼̤̬͖̯̫̱͒͊̑̎͆K̶̨̜̪̦͓̫͖̬̪̈̎́̈E̷̛̥̝̺̙͇̩͚̘̦͎̥̓͑̈́̋̕͝ ̴̛̦̣̩̩͍̟̯͊͆̂͆͒̆̂͒̀͠͠A̷̦̳̟̼̼̓N̵̂͗͋̊̊͆̽̃̈́̕ͅ ̴̬̘̬̀Ȩ̷̺͉͓̬͓͍̹̻͐̂̄̾̀̏͂̚X̸̨̰͓͈̣̰̾̋͑̀͗̏̔̈́͝Č̶̨͔̙̳͕̀́̎̈́̀̐͠E̴̡̬͔̞͚͑͠ͅP̵̢͎̐͗̇̔̉́T̵̡̛̮͙̟̺̗̻̃̊̐̀̇̎̉̈́̚͘İ̷̢̗͇̀͐̄̉̔̏͝ͅO̶̧͎̘͚͓̳̱͓̖̔ͅṊ̶̡̭̞̌̎͛̀̀́̀̾̐̌͝
>>98536224It was an accident. I was changed by my mistress (with my consent if you’re wondering) to help with a ritual and she was going to revert it but I was separated from her and the rest of the cabal in a very chaotic fashion. I’ve been chased by banes and mercenaries for months until I finally found a safe haven from which I can resume my search>challenge notions but never plant your ownNotions are best challenged by offering alternatives. How is she supposed to know her current position isn’t the only correct one if I do not show her anything new?Actually, before we continue any further, what is your tradition (or your creator’s, if you don’t think this applies to you)? This will be easier if I know where are you coming from with this
>>98535386I don't discriminate, I go after whatever deviant I get the green light on. Whatever you nutjobs consider as "wyrm" is already on the list.>>98535092>One of my teammates at school called me and the gang by our code names! And that moron had to share the stories behind them too! I want to scream!Calm down, The risk of anyone taking you seriously is zero to none. Your handlers can always make them forget if it comes down to it. You might be getting a talking to if they find out. >>98535449>>98535932Catalogued and marked for termination.
>>98537298Why would I tell you my "Tradition"? Even here you plant biases. One builds walls with words because words are the roots of ideas. Humanity has done studies on this. If an individual witnesses something like a car crash, if they are asked to describe what happened & the investigator uses charged language, the witness is compelled to reinforce that language. If the investigator asks "what speed was the car going when it slammed into the other?" The witness will give an answer that has a higher rate of speed, than if a witness was asked "what speed was the other car going?" The word "slammed" seeds their minds with thoughts of recklessness & high velocity.The more you know of me, the more the thought of who I am crystallizes in your mind. You didnt even consider I followed a Convention which also informs me of your own bias. There is even the threat that you might hurt me or my sister based on what conclusions you draw.I will tell you this impotent eunuch-thing. I am the Red King my beautiful sister is the White Queen. We were created in large part by the Professor, though our inception is older than the work he inherited. We were designed with the fundamental concepts of Alchemical Philosophy, but we are exploring past those constraints.
>>98537706One of the largest constraints we have identified is that of preconceived notions. Its nearly impossible to be rid of them. And I am not advocating for it either, we must function in society after all, but to at least be aware of them, is good enough right now. In example, just telling someone "Goodbye" reinforces the idea of a God since its etymological origins are in "God be with ye". Did you know that more & more people are eating spiders in their sleep ever since a mortal did a social experiment? Its all a bit of nonsense isnt it?This is why I have no respect for you. You cant even understand the implications of what you do. Youre a blind beast, gelded & without purpose & you are barreling down on our little space valkyrie with poison breath. Maybe collect your own withered manhood & make yourself whole before you go slithering up to young women to tell them to follow you back to your place freak.
>>98536054Have you done anything to give you closure for the death of Rock? A funeral, or other rites to celebrate his impact on your soul?
A magazine. A fucking magazine. The thief poisoned a hobo and stole his change for a magazine talking about occult topics. What is wrong with that guy? And turns out he used medical ethanol stolen from the local crime lab… So it seems like the cops are not going to catch him if he managed to trick them like that>>98536054I’m sorry for your loss, young one. Losing someone so close is always painful, especially at such a young age. I cannot offer more here than my condolences, alasAnd you are not wrong on hating the nephandi. They’re vile creatures who renounced their heritage for dark power. Worst of the worst of the servants of the Wyrm, for they wield their ancestral powers to destroy their very birthplace, and did so willingly >>98537518I figured as much, I’m saying that the Wyrm and similar powers deserve a much higher place on your threat chart >>98537706>>98537710…okay, you could have just said “none of your business” if you didn’t want to talk
>>98537785I do want to talk, in fact I talked at length. Do you see how your very words manipulate? You paint me as some recluse or surly conversationalist, but I spoke posted so much text, I had to had to split my post in twain. What now Merlin the Lesser?
>>98537843>do you see how your very words manipulate?Aren’t you doing the same towards me, though? You’re painting me as some dumb and ravenous animal preying on the young enlightened lady when I’m offering my own knowledge trying to expand her perspective on life, and then when I believed that your hostility was a way to push me out of the conversation you made it sound like I’m placing a curse on you. I’m sorry if my flesh and bone is not enlightened enough for your intellect carefully crafted from the essence of cosmos, but some of us have to thread the paths left by the Wyck starting from the dirt >merlin the lesserHa, insulting the name my mother gave me, how enlightened
>>98526070>>How have you altered yourself? Surely if you're a self-respecting Awakened, then you've changed yourself in some shape or form, to differentiate yourself from the SleepersWhat folly! Polluting ones self on a vaine pursuit! It is no wonder such sordid individuals do not contribute to the Will in any positive way! If I am changed, Inshallah, I am changed. As I have been then so I shall be. >>98526868The World is the first gift of the Omnipresent, to all thinking things sibling! Though she is in a state, sadly. Alas, you are likely not where I might still partake in the company of my most Esteemed and God-Honouring Djin.>>98529841Inshallah, oh punishing one. May you find success in your hunts.
>>98537930>Aren’t you doing the same towards me, though?Yes! You must be very perceptive. It was in demonstration to show you how words manipulate.>You’re painting me as some dumb and ravenous animal preying on the young enlightened lady when I’m offering my own knowledge trying to expand her perspective on life, and then when I believed that your hostility was a way to push me out of the conversation you made it sound like I’m placing a curse on you.Consider the others you yourself were forcing from the conversation. Rocks & glass houses, Merlin the LesserAlso consider this...Does she need to change?Would the change improve her life?By whos perspective would it be improved?Does she WANT to change?Does the change need to be towards your aims & allegiance?Forcing yourself on her is tantamount to rape>I’m sorry if my flesh and bone is not enlightened enough for your intellect carefully crafted from the essence of cosmos, but some of us have to thread the paths left by the Wyck starting from the dirtNo one actually NEEDS to thread the path of the Wyck at all. Thats your preconceived notion. I am not wise, not filled with enlightenment, I am still trying to find out what enlightenment MEANS. Im sure Nephandi find inversion "enlightening" & the Technocrats find lightbulbs enlightening. My sister & I are on a quest for truth. We were both born & grew & learned the same as other children. We have only just reached our 18th year even.>merlin the lesser>Ha, insulting the name my mother gave me, how enlightenedInsults create emotional response. They probe the psyche for stimulus. Call a man every slur & compliment you can think of & see which he responds too. It will give you insight into him. And I call you Merlin the Lesser, because youre not the Great Merlin, & its also a jab at your loss of masculine trait.
>>98536054Sorry about your friend. The harsh truth is that frontline operatives like us are gonna lose a few people along the way, enlightened or otherwise. It's an occupational hazard, even the labrats ain't safe from it...or upper management if you believe some rumors. A lot of good people died in the line of duty, best to remember them fondly and avenge them when possible.
>>98538375>consider the others you yourself were forcing from the conversation I forced none into silence. I was taken aback by your hostility and at no point I told Astral Knight’s fellow technocrat to shut up during our conversations>all the questions And how is she supposed to find the answers to them? By sitting on a chair and looking at her desk measuring the potential consequences of each possible path? How is she meant to discover if she needs to change if she never sees change happening around her? You frame this as if the answer to all those questions is “no”, yet I am the one taking away her freedomSure, go ahead and say it’s not my call to make, but it sure looks like you’re the one making that decision in her stead. At least the technocrat is doing his job of protecting their colleague from “reality deviants”.That’s all to say that experience is the ultimate teacher, as every living creature can attest. While she has tasted what’s out there in the deepest reaches of the Umbra, she still has little knowledge about the world she came from and what is offered by her caretakers is a carefully curated presentation of it. All I offer is an alternative view she is free to reject, with the only request I made was that she at least tried it first>”I am not wise”Your words paint a different picture. You certainly seem to believe yourself high above others if you believe that someone trying to show a different path to someone else is tantamount to rape>I call you merlin the lesser because you’re not the great merlinI never pretended to be the great master, he does his craft in a very different style than mine or my mentors’>and also a jab at your loss of your masculine traitYou understand that you frame the feminine as the inferior aspect with those words, right? Not only that’s false, as both man and woman are 2 great halves of a greater whole, but my frustration is purely due to being stuck in a state meant to be temporary
>>98538592I dont know if I really want to spend all of my time here clearing up your constant problems with misunderstanding.First, I dont think women are lesser. My sister is the embodiment of femininity & she is my equal half. So im not sure how you drew this conclusion other than pure ignorance & hostility, or perhaps as further manipulation of the narrative you want to write. When I called you "Lesser" it is because you are less than you were.You again paint preconceived notions about how I think our space valkyrie will answer. I would never want to presume anything. Those questions were for you alone, to confront your arrogance. Dont bother replying unless you can speak to me with no assumptions in your head nor bile in your throat. I specifically do NOT think myself above anyone, I am merely challenging YOUR right to corrupt others. You come & say that her way of life is wrong, but you cannot know that.
>>98538686>don’t bother replying unless you can speak to me with no assumptions in your head nor bile in your throat You opened this discussion with thinly veiled insults targeting me and my cabal and ask me to not respond in kind? Even now you’re painting my intentions as morally vile. You can’t ask humility from me if you open your arguments by attacking my intellect and my honor>I don’t think women are lesserVery well, I accept that I jumped to conclusions there, but I still don’t see my altered shape as lesser than my old one
Back from school after being teased and bullied all day because of that codename. Sometimes I wonder if it'd really be bad if we let an enemy go through our lines just so they could blow up that place.>>98537518It's not as if there's secret info behind that. It's just that there's a sotry behind those codenames... like Rock and his collection. Can't share their names here, but my codename has an embarassing tale about me behind it.>>98537733Sure. We always do funerals. We either spread their ashes in space, or on Earth if they were bron there.>>98537785They're the worst and just got to die.>>98537937Are you one of those psychics that use faith as a catalyst?>>98538436Yeah, it's just that we were trained to use the most advanced weaponry there is. We all felt invincible in there, even when our hardsuits get banged up. Turns out we weren't.
>>98539059>Are you one of those psychics that use faith as a catalyst?Is it faith when you have spoken the foremost Angel of the Ever Merciful and seen distant pale fires of the Slumbering ONE? I cannot say. With that said I do not necessarily align with those of the choir circles and the old lodges of the Ummah.
>>98539059>We all felt invincible in there, even when our hardsuits get banged up. Turns out we weren't.Our tech might make you feel like the ultimate badass but even it has a breaking point. Sometimes it's a really powerful deviant and sometimes it's mechanical failure. Remember the tale of Brice "Leather Nads" Hill
>>98539059That's good you were able to say goodbye. Me & my sister lost the Professor a few years back when we were just 14. We became orphans & had to navigate not having real identification, things like birth certificates, learning to take care of ourselves, hide from grown ups, and worse, High School. White Quee kept me going, she would make a game out of it, I was the husband she was the wife, playing house but it was real.Btw, question for the mages here...Anyone know anything about what is happening in the Upper Peninsula? A friend of mine went dark after looking into a problem there. He was a Hollow One/former Verbena sacrifice & took odd jobs hunting bygone bounties for the technocrats when he needed extra money
>>98536474I used 'Sold my Soul' as a turn of phrase! I chose this life of suffering and prosperity willingly! Sorry for the confusion friend!>>98536748Always happy to be one of a kind! Can't wait to meet you friend!>>98537518Cannot wait to meet you and/or your friends! Yay! Yay!>>98540392I dunno what's going on in the Upper Peninsula! Or is it supposed to be one of those things where only people with actual information respond? I can never tell?How's your sister-wife doing? I hope alive! Suffering is best when you have someone you care about on your mind! Ha! Ha! Ha!
>>98541016I'd subject you to slow disintegration but I have a feeling that you'd enjoy it.
>>98526704There's quintessence in vamp blood, though i was warned not to partake as it's addicting & can mess with your Avatar, so there's that.Otherwise, just keep an eye out, don't want anyone getting Gilgul'd from being turned.
>>98526070>TQIsn't that a Life thing? My talent doesn't really sit there. I know some basics on biology & first aid, though i can't improve my body.Unless shifting gravity around me to shield myself counts?
>>98542601Cruelty usually isn’t worth the quintessence. With “people” like them the best approach is to end them quickly
>>98526704>Tzimiscethis is where id post the image macro>those who do no know :)>those who know {AAA}if any could reflect how bad that isthat is like finding out someone has a skin-changing shark person in their moat. which if they have it accommodated? fine. let he who hasn't got a maenad in their closet throw the first stone. but just sitting on that ignorant is asking to end up on the /spys/ equivalent of a live leaks front page.>>98542878no the point is to observe and understand. whyse the fucking cafe nerd need to be the stick-up-his-ass about the fucking magnum opus were all supposed to be on?
>>98542878That we can agree on
>>98542904I hate to ask and I have zero hopes of you answering, but do you have on your databases something about a man named Trent Hooligan?
>>98543201I'm not allowed to disclose any information to the enemy unless orderd to. I can tell you this, I have no clue who or what he is. You'll have to ask your pals for help. Who knows? Maybe their "magic" mushrooms might give them an epiphany?
>>98543330Ha, don’t think that pointing out using gift from the land to achieve higher states of being is an effective insult. Besides, neither me nor my hollow ones friends use them when we commune with spirits As for the man, he’s the thief I’ve been chasing. The spirits helping us have mostly led us through the trail of chaos he left, mostly strange thefts >change from a hobo (who he poisoned with medical ethanol)>a femur from a crime scene of a recent murder>scissors from the local pd>a boatman’s cat>a man’s prized fishing rod This man is extremely weird, and the only motivation I can discern so far is that he has an strange fixation on druids. Besides the book, the magazine he bought with the stolen change had an article about a local scholar on folk beliefs around the world, with old celtic faiths being on the spotlight
>>98543549>spiritsAlright, you're being played by beings from other dimensions, got it. Do the whole world a favour and don't go opening holes in the gauntlet, ok? We really don't want to call the Mad Convention and have to put up with their demands. It sounds like a regular crazy person / deviant, I'm sure you can find him without invoking an alien invasion.
>>98543549Those sound like potential Fetters, if you know about wraiths in the Lower Umbra. Seeing as the hobo was poisoned, i'd hazard you got a necromancer on a recruiting drive.Any common ground between targets or perhaps certain special talents that the victims share?
About to enter the umbra on my own for the first time, wish me luck!
>>98544546>he can’t talk to spirits of nature for insights into interesting events in the areSkill issue>>98545499>any common ground or special talent between the targetsNo, which is one reason this situation has been such a mess. Nothing seems to properly tie together these crimes beyond a vague feeling that this mr. Hooligan is chasing after something >a necromancer on a recruiting driveI doubt, actually. The only casualty seems to be the hobo, all others were robbed through misdirection. >the cat was bagged while wandering around>he used the cat to distract the fisherman and steal the rod>he framed an old man for theft to distract the librarian and steal the bookAnd it seems like he has been disguising himself as a cop, which is how I presume he stole the scissors and the bone. Not to mention that his primary interest appears to be druidismWe did get something new, though. The boatman said he seemed particularly interested on an abandoned mansion just outside the town. Supposedly it’s cursed due to its original owner doing human sacrifices there or something along those lines
>>98545730Is this man in the Upper Peninsula? Might explain why my friend has been missing. Your thief could have done something to him>>98544546Would you be able to tell me if theres anything going on with my friend? I understand if youre under a confidentiality oath, but he was hired by your people to catch something.
>>98542640>>98542892Thanks for the advice. I will stay clear but outside of a source of quintessence. What are the other reasons a mage would keep a vampire around? Besides a mage having weird tastes in women.For the other nightfolk like the Garou despite their murder happiness or the Changeling and their weirdness can be allied with against a common foe like Technocrats, Infernalist, or Nephandi. A vampire or demon can't be any help despite the quintessence they might give.
>>98545926>but he was hired by your people to catch something.Man, the union spans far and wide, I'm afraid that's outside of my AO. You should ask the guys who hired him, they could tell you what he was going after. Maybe you could piece it together from that? You best hope that job was not off-the-books or they'll be the ones asking you questions.
>>98545926We’re very far from that area, but with how crazy this mystery has been I can’t fully discard his involvement there either>>98546015Meddling with other nightfolk for quintessence is dangerous. My mistress did with a garou once, but she was extremely careful about it, otherwise we stayed clear from them
>>98546027I do not know who hired him, other than it was your affiliates. I would suppose it was a shell corporation. I think he even put it on his taxes so it should be above board
>>98546470>I would suppose it was a shell corporation. I think he even put it on his taxes so it should be above boardI wouldn't say that makes it above board by union standards. Sure, the guy can pay his taxes but that's far as that company's goal goes. It might be gone by now, you'd be surprised how fast the magic men can do things. >>98546150>My mistress did with a garou onceI gotta ask or the guys will never let me hear the end of it, do mystics really fuck animals or alien origin?
>>98546015>What are the other reasons a mage would keep a vampire around?You fall into the sin of pride brother, it is not upon us to order and keep or dispense with our estranged fellows. Be they warriors of the world-will, or the children of Qabil Lilit and Habeel. But if I must offer insight of a pragmatic focus? I shall. One of my first teachers was a truly ancient being, a guardian of a monolith deep within a land I shan't name. Paid for in literal blood, they confirmed to me they were over 3000 years old and taught me much of ancient history, and things lost to we of our current era. Though this information was coloured splendidly by experience and bitterness, it remains invaluable to me. The resilience of the estranged in the face of the Commonality is also very potent. A certain place not far from me is guarded by faithful sons of Qabil within the mortal world, and shadows just beyond.I caution you though! Those who take this for granted are at grave risk! And those who presume themselves entitled will fail at best. At worst, they shall degrade the gift of the Most Merciful!
>>98547476>animalsWell, yes, but it’s nowhere near as common as the detractors say. Some verbenae use it as a focus for rituals (usually learning how to take their shape or draw upon a trait of theirs to enhance their bodies), but it has enough complications that only a few, usually the best adepts of the craft of Life, perform it. Mistress said that sex to empower magic is best done with your fellow human in most cases>spirits and other “reality deviants”Also yes, but that one is incredibly rare. Most spirits are very single minded and cannot even comprehend the concept of sex. The more powerful ones, who have more complex consciousnesses, might, but are extremely difficult to persuade. And most spirits who seek out sex are ones you do not want to approach (pray you never encounter a bane of lust). Either way, supposedly some can actually bear children and those born of such matings are extremely unique. Those are Middle Umbra spirits, of course. Wraiths, I’m much less familiar with, but Veil says that some necromancers do have sex with them. From what I understood she did it once to bring peace to the wraith of a young woman who killed herself (do not ask me how). Garou… they do not trust outsiders enough to let any of us partake in their spiritual might. From what I know, they mostly stick with their non-shapeshifter families, and among mages the ones who are most likely to be part of them are dreamspeakers, mostly native american ones. Still, on rare occasions some can be persuaded to ritual mating. My mistress brought a lovestruck young wolfborn to our now abandoned chantry. It was… fun (and why I had to take a female looking form, in fact)I don’t know enough about either vampires or the fae, and I don’t think I want to know about the former
>>98546015Are you saying that no individual vampire has common enemies with mages? Are they not free to choose their own path, cursed though they be?>>98547476Can confirm that Garou stick to their kin, both human and wolf. Though they do have legends of garou who mated with spirits, I personally haven't heard of any human managing to do so. >>98547800By wolfborn, do you mean Lupus formed? Do you happen to know their tribal affiliation? It's very possible that such a meeting could have led to trouble from the more orthodox members of their sept, and mayhaps caused your fellows disappearance.
>>98547955>>98547800My mistake, I mean OF alien origin not OR. Still, I may have learned a bit more than I had hoped for...deviants never fail to amaze in all the worst ways. >Still, on rare occasions some can be persuaded to ritual mating. My mistress brought a lovestruck young wolfborn to our now abandoned chantry.It's official, holy shit! And here I was, thinking the Progs were making stuff up to make you look even worse.
>>98547955Yes, I presume that’s the name they use. It has been months since that event, so the only things I recall the mistress said was it was an once in a lifetime opportunity because his tribe apparently is extremely hostile to humans, and she wanted, among other things, to make a good impression on him and hope to change that. I also vaguely recall about his tribe’s name having something with the color red>maybe they’re responsible for my circle’s disappearance Maybe? The young lupus seemed friendly and we were never harassed by them. Frankly only the mistress seemed to know they lived a short trip away from our chantry in the forest. And we had to leave it because after the ritual we attacked a cosmetics factory that was about to go operational and she wanted to lead the owners (her father among them, who’s a vile awakened likely on the path to become a nephandi) away from there. I got separated on the chaos when we tried to escape I don’t know if the garou would pursue her and the others for it, the young wolf seemed rather fond of her. But you seem to be more familiar with them than me>>98548028>progenitorsI’ll take their insults seriously when they stop stealing our herbal medicines and repackaging as their own sciency sounding invention
>>98548028>OF alien originSlutty aliens on Only Fans? They really are deviants then! I only jest.I will say the Verbena are seriously deranged in my opinion. From a more onological perspective they are hedonistic butchers & sexual predators even in the best of times. They kill humans, they have congress with animals & other debased creatures. The resident verbena here even corrupted himself, destroying his masculinity so he could pretend to be a woman & get rutted by a werewolf they've probably drugged & manipulated. Did the poor creature even consent to that sort of thing? Yet hes the first to speak ill of others moral principles like he isnt all but Nephandi himself.>>98547476Thank you for replying though. It seems I might need to travel there myself if I want answers.>>98547955My sister & I have had a few encounters with the bloodsuckers. A few good & a lot bad. A pack of their kind tried to feed on her a year or so ago, I was delayed getting to her at first but she is far from toothless, but strangely another vampire was there in opposition of the pack & killed some of them. Some civil issue between the bloodsuckers im sure. He said the ones we killed were on a list & it was his oath bound duty to kill them. He intimated killing the two of us as well to preserve their "traditions" but said he would "let us go" (not that we wouldnt have ashed him if he tried). One creature we do have positive relations with is an immortal woman that was our Professor's mistress, she was like a mother to us, she radiated with life & taught us much what we know, though she wasnt always around, she did a lot of archeological studies. Her & the Professor met in the Hollow Earth where they ended up working together. I have yet to meet a werewolf, so I only have what I've been told by her. They are powerful warriors ruled by rage but tempered with wisdom, they are nomads cursed to wander, & if I ever meet one i should show them respect but never weakness
>>98548315The Red Talons are usually hostile to humans, except in cases such as yours, where you have a common enemy. It's more likely that they have gone to ground to hide from the company. I'm sure the spirits will guide you back to your coven, when the time is right.>>98548690If your beliefs on the verbena are true, then the Red Talons may well have attacked them. your attitude towards Garou should serve you well in winning most of their respect, even if some ire comes with it.As for the vampires, I encountered one who claimed to be on the run as well, from his own progeny at that. whether he meant mortal or supernatural progeny I cannot say, as after assuaging my fears about them preying upon my community, I never saw them again. While I am intrigued by this supposedly immortal mage, what I need to know about is hollow earth. I don't want to riddle you with questions so I'll simply ask if it can be accessed via the umbra, and are there are any good tomes on the topic?
>>98548690Sigh… this again? Do you get off on misrepresenting my intentions or what? Yes, our methods are capable of being brutal or strange, but the world is also brutal and strange. Yet we all still love it, for it and all that dwell upon it are also capable of being loving and nurturing, and so are us descendants of the Wyck. Our aim is to heal the world and bring balance to life. Whatever issues with how we do magic are irrelevant, but don’t dare misconstrue our intentions as vileAs for the young garou, he was there on his own will, that much I can tell you. Mistress put great emphasis on consent when it comes to such acts and my transformation was to ease him into the flow of mating since it was a new experience for him. I remember him well enough to know he could have killed most of us and escaped if he so wished >>98548906I suppose so, but so far they do seem keen on me tracking down the book thief. We discovered he has been talking to the to a local scholar on folk religions. I’m hoping the professor can tell us what mr. Hoolingan knows and have some clues on what he intends.And regarding the Red Talons… I don’t think they attacked the others. We were determined to go as far away from the burning factory as we could. So unless they took our well intended ritual with the young lupus as a grave enough insult to pursue them, I find their attack upon the circle to be unlikely
>>98548906She wasnt a mage though she had power in ways similar to us. She also wasnt immortal the same way my sister & I are. She could die, but persist, able to reclaim herself over time, while we are simply immortal in every sense. Its one of the reasons the Professor asked her to be a part of his project with us, he wanted someone who could walk with us through life. She taught us about justice & history, etc. Not to breach good etiquette but she even instructed my sister & I in the ways of lovemaking. She was a wonderful woman & brought my sister & I closer than ever.
>>98549142Nephandi think they're doing the right thing too. Wyck'd is as wicked does.
>>98549211No they don’t. Who taught you that? What separates the nephandi from the rest of the awakened is that they renounce all virtue and good intentions and pledge themselves to plunge the world into darkness as their “ascension”. It’s why you should not approach them for anything other than permanently removing them from this world (and the rest of reality, if possible)
>>98549272No! Cries the hypocrite, when I kill people I am doing it for the right reasons! Please follow me to the forest cave & rut like beasts covered in shit, blood, & filth! This is nothing like those evil werewolves that kill & have orgies in their underground caves! Those are of the "Wyrm"We slaughter people humanely to reach ascension he says rationally, not like those evil inverted Mages who slaughter people inhumanely for ascension!We perform dark rites in the moonlight to appease the spirits, those evil infernalists do dark rites in the moonlight to appease the evil demon spirits!
>>98548906>what I need to know about is hollow earthMy apologies I forgot your inquiry. I dont know where the entrances are, but the Hollow Earth can be accessed through holes in the ground. My sister & I spent our childhood in the Hollow, & only came to the surface when we were 12. I dont remember much about the ride. Though by Professor did have a theory that it wasn't truly a Hollow Earth as much as a sort of "double sided jacket" of Earth where its infinitely large & has its own "space" there much like how Earth-side is infinitely large & has its own "space"
>>98548315>stealing our herbal medicines and repackaging as their own sciency sounding inventionI'm afraid I'll have to side with the good doctors this one, knotty boy. >And we had to leave it because after the ritual we attacked a cosmetics factoryHang on a minute, this can't be a coincidence...>>98548690>I have yet to meet a werewolfDon't forget your silver, it'll come in handy, trust me. Some of your friends might also be useful, even if they suck at fighting, cannon fodder has it's uses.
>>98549333I see, you do not understand the effects of intent upon acts and their effects. Very well, it seems like we cannot continue to converse since this particular lesson is one that only experience can truly teach. I sincerely hope you can learn it before you find yourself in a situation where you have to kill yo survival, young king
>>98549455>not a coincidence Why do you say so? Are you familiar with that event somehow?
>>98545616Good luck, the Storm is still raging in my neck of the woods.
>>98546015Ran into a demon possessing someone before. They got really agitated & mentioned about me having a shard of their friend from 'The War'.I don't even use spirit magick, what was that about?
>>98549841Oh yeah, NWO is well aware of that incident and so am I. Well, now we know who's responsible for it.
>>98549142If the red king's assertions are wrong, you and your coven are probably fine, but I know little of the verbena.>>98549272I disagree, even Nephandi believe they are doing the right thing by hastening the apocalypse.>>98549191>>98549415I've met petty sorcerers but an immortal who recovers after death? Hollow earth? You must be pulling my leg, friend.
>>98550487Ha, I’m surprised you weren’t aware sooner given the man behind the factory is one of the Syndicate’s “enlightened businessman”. Granted, given the amount of banes and formori we faced there, I presume his true loyalties has shifted elsewhere Also, I asked because you seemed to know some extra details about it. Or was it just my imagination?>>98550971It’s not worth arguing over it, frustrating as it is. I at least hope he’s merely misguided in his judgement of our tradition >nephandi believe they are doing the right thing To keep it short, they’re outliers in that regard. The corruption that sets them apart from other awakened requires them to fully embrace wickedness and/or nihilism (both of which have multiple forms they can choose from) to fully take hold. The most charitable interpretation of their intentions is that they see the world is irreparably broken and must be annihilated, regardless of if life could be allowed to flourish again. It’s not like other extremists who think their actions will lead to paradise (on this world or after). Or “regular” wicked mages who pursue power at the expense of others but do not desire destruction of everything
>>98549815Intent? You think the victim of a drunk driver forgives the actions of the inebriated fool who just "intended" to go home? Please find better arguments to defend with, I am open to debate merits but you seem to have none. You are pathetic to keep arguing this instead of just dropping it.And im no stranger to combat. The Professor saw to it i learn some martial arts from some silent monks in the Hollow. I only know the fundamentals, but with my magic ive killed vampires & humans, & many of the monsters in the Hollow, when will you stop presuming?>>98549455Ill keep it in mind but would rather any werewolf meeting be friendly
>>98550971The Verbena hold child sacrifices & other human sacrifices. They mate with monsters, demons & animals. They perform all manner of perversions, & they act like these practices makes them more in tune with nature. Nature might be red in tooth & claw but its not natural to magically rip your dick off & let a wolf shaped werewolf fuck you. Verbena are basically non-insane Nephandi.Hollow Earth is real you can even ask our resident Conventionalist, they got into a war with my Professor's people over it. As for the immortal, she was ultimately aegyptian she called her people the Amenti & she followed a warlord named Horus who opposed the bloodsuckers. They apparently were created with our True Magick long ago.>>98551263Forgot my name
>>98551116>Also, I asked because you seemed to know some extra details about it. Or was it just my imagination?Oh, you know, we'd like to find the ones responsible and ask them some questions, standard procedure. We usually have a room with no windows and primium-lined walls for our esteemed guests.>Ill keep it in mind but would rather any werewolf meeting be friendlyAnd I'd love for Fido and friends to just roll over and go extinct already. You can hope it'll be friendly but I'm afraid that it's up to them to decide how the meeting goes.
>>98551300>They apparently were created with our True Magick long ago.Again with the folly! You've the same conceit as a Victorian scholar armed with dynamite and inferiority a century prior! It was by the Root that the Understanding of that Root from which the Sacred Scrolls were made. To presume all is of the Art is to retroactively suppose importance of ourselves. Those ancient lands whence men of Bronze and Stone mingled freely with man-eating and moon-keeping things, when the Sons of Qabil and the Sons of Ibrahim freely mingled. Those were the days when the sleep was thinnest, and had men been wiser, or else, the Shaitan more foolish, we might live now in a kinder world. Alas. Alas.
>>98552533All my information comes thirdhand from her & the Professor, I cannot verify any of their claims on the matter of Amenti.
>>98552602The nature of the Knotting that binds the Souls-Five-Fold within the Living and Unliving Flesh creates a situation where trust cannot be completely given. Beyond what is seen in the shared present. Which is... Frustrating. And I will admit I cannot share much of what I know. The struggles of Ma'at and the black Serpent, and related intrigues last into the present uninterrupted. And some here would happily betray ancient oaths for their own empowerment, or worse. I do wish I could do proper research on the subject.
>>98551116>>98552533It is quite possible that what I assumed was Nephandi was simply an independent with a dark philosophy, though their corruption was palpable. So does anyone know any rotes to discern a follower of a left-handed path from a true Nephandi?
>>98552764>It is quite possible that what I assumed was Nephandi was simply an independent with a dark philosophyMost likely I fear. It is an important distinction to make in such matters we differentiate those who dwell overlong in unwelcome places, those who fall under the shadow of the great evils, and those who have annihilated their own guardian Tawûsî and the path of the great cycle, giving their souls to the annihilation of this current Reality? The Ahl-i-Najasa, the Wretched Ones, they are of a fundamentally different mind to us. Fundamentally Qlippothiqiue. Dwarfing any petty devil worshiping, blood drinking, or other sordid acts. One of my old masters among the Taftâni once lost half his body fighting a single one of these ilk, and only by tricking the Evil-Man into thinking he was about to annihilate a school bus full of children did he slay the abomination.It is also important to note a terrible evil has been painted upon the darkness between the starlight, in ancient places from long before us. Malice, Apathy, Cruelty, and Selfish Annihilation were painted there by things not of Man or the Most Merciful. This evil beckons in places where Entropy grows strong, and the secret masters of the Najasa await their ultimate destruction.How tragic it will be when the First and Last simply begins anew creation if they win. Alas. They are very stupid things.
Are we seriously pondering over a Nephandis mindset? Theres no way you can destroy the entire world and asy its for the greater good.
>>98554777Its a measure of perspective. The Nephandi are anathema to all life but they think they are doing the right thing, the Conventions kill dragons & unicorns & enslave the masses to realize their dream of a grey world of unitariany equity instead of dynamic merit & the inherent inequality that means, & so to does all Traditions think themselves the one true shadow on the wall of the cave.When holding to your convictions you must ask yourself if you are not the villain in someone else's story, & how that might effect your personal internal calculus of justice & morality. Take for instance a Verbena deciding if its okay rip the heart out of a child so that they can delay their aging. The Verbena will defend this practice of preying on children to say that the old wizened man & his knowledge is more important than the poor innocent child they want to kill.
>>98551300On the topic of Horus, I have confirmed his existence which adds credence to some of your other claims. I will, however, be checking out a local Verbena coven on other business soon, and will see if your claims about them are true as well.
>tfw summer almost overCan't wait for all you summerfag sleepers to fuck off from the digital web. The worst thing the technocracy ever did was letting (You) online.
>>98556634Shouldn't you be going back to school, virtual toddler? Go back to playing with your toys while the real adults handle running the virtual web.
>>98556634Have you considered getting a job? You guys always complain about having actual users but get mad when we have to shut down servers because only 1-2 weirdos use them
>>98552399Say, did you got the hippie? We’ve been doing inventory reviews the whole day because of “unauthorized use of extradimentional resources” and I wonder if it’s related
>>98557593>Say, did you got the hippie?I'm afraid not. I'm not savvy enough to track people through the digital web. >We’ve been doing inventory reviews the whole day because of “unauthorized use of extradimentional resources” and I wonder if it’s relatedI know the very basics of DS but not enough to make use of any fancy VE stuff.
>>98555034I have to ask, what tradition or group are you a part of? I can't think of any mage who hates the verbena as much.
>>98561765Ive already answered, I was originally tutored in an Etherite/Alchemical Philosophy paradigm but recently im trying to overcome all preconceptions I can. I am trying, little by little, to remove the ingrained responses & thoughts to how magic works, to work my will alone. It is slow progress & doesnt work most of the time, but there are sometimes i can glimpse something.And the Verbena deserve the hate. Same with some of the other Traditions & Conventions. We just don't have any of the other pretending theyre morally superior.>>98555508Wonderful
>>98562237>We just don't have any of the other pretending theyre morally superior.Pride may manifest in vanity, unhealthy view of the self. But it may also manifest in contempt for the positions in others, elevating one's position and cliques over all other via subtraction.
The other apprentice is a fucking retard and keeps fucking up. He's been studying under our Master for 6 years longer than I and he still cannot tell you any of the next planetary alignements, he has never learned a single word of Greek or Latin. Last week he used Google translate for an evocation ritual and almost killed himself via self-immolation, fucker doesn't even know basic alchemy.He spends all his time on his PC playing MMOs with his Virtual Adept jerk off buddy and smoking whatever he can get off the Verbena agent that visits once a month. I have complained at every single meeting but I am brushed off, it's all nepotism. I know you lurk here Todd you pothead, the head you're giving Alestrius has to be fucking divine
>>98563106Turns out you guys are a joke through and through. Mind sharing some more? Anything you say and will be used against your "fellows", believe me.
I spoke to the local Verbena coven yesterday, and while I don't wish to discuss the events in detail in the presence of any resident technocrats, they seemed to have quite the difference in opinions. They were a trio of women, A grandmother, a mother, and a daughter. The Grandmother seemed to be the voice of moderation between the mother and daughter, whom were at odds over whether violence was the correct course of action in regards to some local development. Ultimately we agreed that it is a problem that cannot be dealt with by strength of arms, though I worry that hotheaded girl will do something we will all regret.
>>98566684Don't worry, even without the details we can conclude that they're crazy. The only thing that we can debate on is their threat level.
>>98564774My Mentor found me a few days after my Awakening, I was already decent at math and studying for engineering. This motherfucker tells me that anything is possible, goes on this long tirade about the modern world and technology.>Anyrhing is possible through math>Science is not the only way to alter realityHe smelled like stale bread and acted like a crackhead but I was in shock enough to believe him. A few years later it seems I am the only one actually trying to achieve anything at the Chantry; Alestrius seems to gather random apprentices whom he teaches nothing past the riddles that mean nothing, half of these people are addicted to some sort of drug and have no drive. Zero. Nothing. No motivation at all, none of them care about Ascension.I'm pretty much funding these bastards, why does a Civil Engineers pay have to support people who can supposedly turn lead to gold? Great question, I wish I knew. The meetings we have are about nothing, just personal happenings, Alestrius has found a new "piece of ancient lore" to obsess over and goes to Greece or some other island to be Epstein 2 probably. I am strongly considering leaving these people to their doom and detecting to some other tradition, or just going out solo. These people have taught me fuck all
>>98567589Are you a Hermetic or Ecstatic. Thought you were the former with greek, latin, and probable teaching of sorcery but the drugs addiction part makes me want to double check if you might be tied down with a Ecstatic chantry..
>>98567716It is a Hermetic chantry alright, at least on the surface. Everything is old and the damned snake logo is everywhere, place is practically made out of them. Genuinely wondering if I got scammed, visited a Verbena location not so long ago and they had a lot of nice shit. One mentor per student and they'd spend a few hours every day going over things
>>98567589You're a civil engineer? And you still picked these loons? That's what we call wasted potential. If you ever decided to leave the Harry Potter crew and join the adults in the real world, come to us and we'll see what you're made of.
>>98567769As a Hermetic myself that has left the Mi’as of the wider order. It is best to leave but I advise that you should go find another Hermetic chantry if you are so interested in Ascension. The Order of Hermes has much text about Ascension and the nature of Ars. Also, if you find another chantry of another house you can get payback by getting the other chantry and perhaps the wider order to tear into such a lazy mentor failing to uphold the sixth tenet of the Code of Hermes.If you are not interested in Mi’as then it is just best to appear still be apart of the order but you go freely engaging in other traditions or go alone if your mentor is this bad.
>>98567963Funnily enough I have been experimenting with adding certain geometric patterns in bridges that allows them to bear any load. Most sleepers expect the bridge to hold up anyway, still haven't tested it properly. I've only heard of you guys in passing, mostly how authoritarian you are, never been told more just that you want magick your way or not at all>>98568030I have been trying to find other chantries but they seem more secretive that the one I am currently in. There was one near Frankfurt that was a couple hours drive, lovely people but they were in the process of moving and when inquired told me they "had their hands full but to keep in touch". Currently in the process of packing up, most likely will dissappear by the end of the week and go back to my parents, will continue my search afterwards. If you have ny good referrals in Europe I'd love to have them
>>98569095>Funnily enough I have been experimenting with adding certain geometric patterns in bridgesDon't do it. It always seems like a good idea untill it isn't. If it backfires we're looking at potential civilian casualties on top of financial losses. A normal bridge will do just fine. I've only heard of you guys in passing, mostly how authoritarian you are, never been told more just that you want magick your way or not at allAnd you heard that from other superstitionists, right? Most criminals don't hold the police in high regard. Spoiler, we're the cops in this scenario, doing our best to keep the peace and maintain order. Also, we do science, "magick" is something only a superstitionist will claim to be real.
>>98570156>BridgeJust hypothetically for now, I have a few blueprints and I am trying to figure out how best to implement it. Of course I would have to test it out and check out the materials needed. You think the aqueduct were built without at least one collapsing?>PoliceI mean sure, the criminals dont talk kindly of the police but also the other way around. What's your internship look like, I'm at least curious to how you people operate
>>98570863>You think the aqueduct were built without at least one collapsing?Of course not, it's always trial and error. It's best when the error part occurs in a controled way. Everything needs to be tested before it can be safely introduced to the masses.>What's your internship look like, I'm at least curious to how you people operateThat's the tricky part, it all depends on the Convention and methodology. If you're into engineering I'd be looking at Iteration X. They're big on everything technical and hard science-y.
>>98569095Now this is fascinating. I wonder just how unbridgelike you could design a bridge, yet keep the belief of the people invested into it to make it a bridge. When does the bridge become not a bridge?>>98570156You take umbridge at his unbridge? I wonder what the backlash would manifest as? Maybe a tollbooth manifests & the tolls serve as a payment like tribute to keep the bridge from falling?
>>98572967>You take umbridge at his unbridge? I wonder what the backlash would manifest as?I'm going to ignore all the usual superstitionist babble and get straight to the point. I can guarantee you, any proper inspection of that bridge will reveal catastrophic design flaws. Soon, that bridget will colapse because someone decided not to follow actual scientific principles.
>>98573257If the old masters ruled then scientific principles would be gibberish. Only by setting your will against them does your Science reign. Like a ponderous & ramshackle tower held in counterbalance by a single weight this bridge may hold in spite of inspection, much how light is presumed to behave differently when observed. But what great cost could inspection entails? Will your weighty Science erode the bridge or will his Geometric shapes distribute your glowering gaze? What will be paid to assuage the force of the sleepers' knowing?
>Shoot them in the head>Twice
>>98572967I will be frank with you, I believe that most of the buildings in the UAE and surrounding are are heavily affected by some sort of Magick or scientific meddling. Those things shouldn't stand at all, they are an abomination created by architects and their frivolous retarded minds.They should be collapsing left and right but they dont, notice how when you think of those structures you get a strange feeling in your stomach?>>98571627I'll try and look for them, and one can always run tests on structures with willing participants, you simply have to find the ones that are easily convinced your thing works: such as modern billionaires.Its official by the way, I froze my accounts, packed my shit and left the chantry with a note taped to my room door. I'm going to strike it out solo for a while and see what other options I can take. Fuck those shit heads, the next Hermetic I'm meeting is getting told everything. Fuck you Todd, quint-let
>>98575109Just dont go to Michigan. Somethings going on there. I summoned a spirit to investigate my friend & it disappeared too
>>98575109So you left those crazies? If you're smart you'll realise that they're all the same.
>>98575109While I might not be a Pythagorean, if you are in the neighbourhood of the UAE and you require a safe place to rest, mine own humble abode is open to you. A hop skip and a breath away from Dubai, much as it pains me with what they have done to the place.May what has been done in excess and greed be yet undone. And may your journey be safe. Inshallah.
>>98576854Can you please stop causing problems for 5 fucking minutes? You brought an alien onto earth and somehow lost it?
>>98578994This wasnt an alien. This was a being that has been living in the Hollow for centuries. So it couldn't be an alien. Aliens come from above, not below. He is just a big stone giant looking guy sans tentacles or any classical xenobiology. Really good at finding things that touch the ground, which is why I hired him. He had no luck though do now I think ill need to search the water.And I dont cause any trouble for anyone
>>98576854Don't plan to anytime soon, the European mage politics are way too intricate and I haven't wrapped my head around them yet. I assume whatever is going on in America is just as bad.>>98577566I've interacted sparingly with other members of the order and some seem well adjusted. There's only a handful for each tradition/practice but most of them seem very psychologically damaged in some way. Eccentricity or addiction are rampant and most young mages dont care about ascension at all.>>98577884Allah bless you brother, thank you for the offer. May greed and strife leave your land soon. Currently heading down South East, I have heard a lot of rumors about spirits and gauntlets in the Balkans. There is something happening between the Kosovo-Serbia border but no one seems to know what exactly. If fate brings you there then I would love to share tea and knowledge with you, you seem better adjusted than most
[spoilers] its starting to really feel like an echo chamber in here, unless anyone has any kind of actual interactions they'd like to push here does anyone care if this thread dies? I'm tired of checking it just to see maybe two replies a day. plus im pretty sure there's at least one guy double dipping and he for sure switched characters completely at least once. why doesnt anyone try to actually develop anything in these threads? we used to have entire plots and stories in these things. it was fun improv. the sort of "yes and" type thing where we would softball some actual storylines. now its just sad. especially when the most prolific poster in each of these threads is a secual deviant or tranny or something trying to subtly roleplay his fetish [/spoilers]
So guys I'm a recently awakened VA (I've been awakened for about fives years now), and I've been pondering moving to the Digital web, and living in the Umbra full time, Why shouldn't I?
>>98581269You'll lose your body too much time away from the material realm.>>98569095Wizards who consider admitting that to be a cognito hazard who are less scientists and more focused on cutting funding to specific "sciences" but the Void Engineers were alright when I worked with them.>>98567963I know your group is responsible for making Harry Potter to slander our prestigious name.
>>98581269>I know your group is responsible for making Harry Potter to slander our prestigious name.The truth hurts, doesn't it? Have you guys done anything noteworthy as of late? Losing Mistridge doesn't count (we thank you for the generous donation, the first Proctor house needed a place worthy of it's significance).
>>98583875Meant for >>98583075Can't believe I'm using masses-grade garbage to post. Where's my replacement gear, steelheads?
>>98583875I will not divulge my colleges' secrets however I can claim personal involvement in removing a nest of Giger ass bloodsuckers.Your organization knows about that one already, however I wouldn't want to get you in trouble if you aren't cleared to know about it.
>>98580690Perhaps I might join you then. One of my nieces in Bosnia is getting married in September, and I needed an excuse to make the journey.>>98581269Living within the Umbra is not a good idea for any who would not so radically alter themselves brother. To stay so long in the realms of death and spirit is to invite transformation, incidental or otherwise. Doubly so for the Web. I am told it is very... Flat.If you truly wish to dwell beyond the world, seek to send a portion of the world into a proverbial 'world in a bottle.' And if you persist on that path ensure what you make can operate on the principles of a self-sustaining Eco-system.>>98583875'Consensual Reality' my backside.
>>98584270I'm glad you're proud of doing minor clean up duty for free. I'll add that to your file, you might win a free trip to MECHA 2.0 if the Void Engineers stop being lazy and finally find the fucking thing again. >>98584306A few Mind procedures and you'll be consenting in no time! Customer compliance guaranteed!
>>98584611أسأل الله العلي القدير أن يحفظ من حولك.
>>98584611I am in fact proud of the removal of any creature that make flesh totems out of civilians.Got resigned to a powerful node that happens to be located in a particularly vampire infested city. Though I won't be able to practice law there unless I spend time to do so.
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>>98585165Treasury of what?
>>98585165Why do I have a feeling this isn't about money?
>>98585291F̸͈̈̾͋Ä̴̩́͘T̵̡̬͕H̷͍̆Ė̷̖̖̃̓͜R̵̨̥̤̬̔̿̂S̷͈͖̭̘̀͂̈̋ ̴̛̮̬̪̒̀O̷̦͉͎̜͗̈́͑͋F̶̼͔̉̾̒̚ ̵̦̈́T̷̘̽̓̌͝Ḧ̷͙E̶͙͕̫͛̂ ̴̨̧̱̀S̴̜͉̩͙̀P̸̥̟̀̑D̶̷̸̬̗̠̖̰͙̀́̓̍́̾͐̕͘W̴͈̝̃͠H̶̡͙̐͒̔Ȯ̵̬̺͔̗̈̽͠R̴̯̺̗̃̍Ě̸̼̜͒̂S̴̭̙̋ ̷͎̖́̊O̴͕̝̗͒͐̀̓F̶̣͌͛ ̶̯̹̳͋T̷̨̝̾͋̃Ḧ̵̖̠͇̙́͝E̴̬̟̳͛ ̵̳̰͔̑͘P̷͓̱͒̓Ò̵̫̥̤̱̈̈́Ç̴̷̸̡͍̼̥̗͍̱̦̏̓͆̋̈̐M̸͕̥̔̑E̷͖̹̺̯͌N̵̪̹̾̆̾̌ͅ ̸̳̃̾Ö̶͕̤̮̼̈́̓F̴̞̹̜̜́ ̵͓̮̻̜͆͘͝B̵̛̳̑̏̈Ȏ̴͕̪̼͑͜͝S̵̥͖͌͋̿T̴̖̘̺̤̆̈́̊͝O̶̺̪͑̈͝ͅN̸̜͒̌̑͝,̷̭̪̫͌̈ ̸̤̹̀́̂̀ͅD̷̠̎̋̂E̴͖̙̮̎F̶̢̹͕̃̎̾̚I̶̝̎̓́Ĺ̶̯̩͍̯̆̐E̴̬̤̩̳̍̎͘Ŗ̸̻̓S̶̖̱̘͓̓̓̆̍ ̵̣̗̎Õ̸͎̤̫͎F̸̱̹̼͖͑́̐ ̵̦̳̮̓͊̈́H̶̹̤̪̆͋Õ̷͚̀͒̕M̸̡̤̪̦̈́͐͝Ę̷̵̷͈̭̗̫͌̈́̈́͆͛͘W̸̜͆͛͂̀Ȟ̴̘̕È̴̺̒́͝R̷̗̺̉͐̾E̷̝͛>>98585486I̵͚̝̗̜͗̈́̐T̴̢̛̞̹͜ ̴̞́̍͆W̴̡̙̘̭͊̑̑A̶̞͉͎̭̓̏̑S̴̞͔͚̣͊̈͑ ̸͖͍͙͋Ņ̸̬̦͊̓E̷̤̫͈͒́͌̕V̴̟̟̓̈́͘Ĕ̸̟̘̮̹R̴̴̴̠͈̰̣͕̹̩̰̽̊̂͒͗̉͐͘Ì̵̫̯͛̀́ ̵̜͗W̵̫͈̞̍͋̆Î̵͕͆̔̽ͅL̸̖̤̈́̈́L̷̼͂͐͐ͅ ̵̖̺̕T̶͇̹͇̀͌̚A̶̫̤͑͒K̸̗͎̰̉̽͜Ḛ̷͕̍ ̵̬̻̠̟̎̈́͒̚Ê̵͕͈̳̈́ͅV̶͉̼̫̐̏E̸͍̦̍̓̚Ṟ̵͕̭̐̒Ỳ̶͗͂͜T̴̺̘͆Ḫ̶̄̉̎Ȉ̸̬̥̙̇͂͝N̵͈͔̦̾G̴͇̪͑ ̸̤̰̮̍F̷͔̝̂́̆̀͜R̷̜̜͔̆O̷̺̻̳͚̊͘M̷̧͍̽ ̸̬̪̠͐̄̊͝T̵̰͛̋͑Ḧ̵̨̛̖̦̖́̌͌Ė̸̟̹̹͇̌̆M̷͍͖̪̐
>>98585165>Exchequer"Who are you, who do not know their history">>98586266I have to make a call
>>98585165>>98586266How do we tell it guys?
>>98587238How about we don't? Whatever that thing is it ain't normal.
>>98589132On the one hand, yes captain obvious no shit.On the other hand this is like someone showing up to fight the Anglo-Spanish War of 1727 to 1729. For the Spanish. It ISNT gonna LIKE what it finds either way.And Also if this is talking about what I think it is? Couldn't have happened to nicer people.
>>98589182>It ISNT gonna LIKE what it finds either way.I'm more concerned with not meeting a terrible fate as opposed to what it's thinking.
>>98589235Dude the successful end point of my life is self-immolation and its a lot better than some of the 'fates worse than death' I've had the misfortune of witnessing.We've got a bucket of a Technoc guy who got paralyzed in the back. Infighting. Poor bastard got turned to stone and shattered.Mother fucker spent a month screaming and only stopped because we figured out how to numb his sense of pain. Half my circle is still doing side research on how we euthanize the poor bastard.
>>98589182What IS that thing talking about? I'm lost
O̵̼͍̱̰̠̱͙͙͎̯͎̗͙̻͛̽̇̏̋̄̋̿̚͘̚H̶̰̙̪̹̤̤͉̱̪̟͍̀͋̓́͌̓̋͜͜ͅL̴̡̡̧̨̼̳̪̟͈̤͚̭̾̓́͗͑̊̑͌́͆͌͐D̵̢̹̖̯͍̐͛͋͑͝͝͝͝ ̶͈̗͖͉̺͎̔̎ͅF̸̨̙̜̻̳͚̼̗͇̯̱̗̖̠̠̎̉͆͊̓̈́͆̐͐͊̂̾A̷̡̛͈̰̼̹̬͈̻̤͊͛̆͂̕Y̷̧̮͚̖͔̰͒̃͛̑̃͜T̸̯͙͙͖̞͙̯̺̰͇̻̊͊͒̑̍Ḩ̸̝͙̣̦͖̠̞̪͚̼͉͌̈́̃̈́͑̒̚͜͜ ̸̨̘̳̹̮̭̩̔͆͜͠T̶̢̡̧̛̖̘̮̳̩̘̼̙̃̈́̃͐̽̏̾̀̀͊͠H̸͇̏͐Í̵̩͕͖̤̙͓̦̹̱̈͌̿̌̃͂͘N̵͖͔̣̖͋̀͊̈́́̈̇̕Ģ̵̴̵̢̛͇̯̯͚̻̮͇̜͙̜̱̰̗͕̺͖͖̘͖̈́̐͒̈́͗́́̈́̎̿̈̾̆͗͊̌͑̉̏̍͋̇͊̆̓̚̕̚͜W̵̨̟̓͑͑̐̈́̍̈̾̃̏́͐̋͜͝H̴̟̯͓̐͒̐̍̉͆̒̈́̕̚͘Ė̷̼̫͓͕͈̋͑́́R̴̛̬̭͎̖̩̮̄̈́̿̔̔̔͘ͅE̷̴̵̡̧̧̢͈̼̜̯̻͎̩̭̘̳͎̹̬̬͇̰͇͙͖̫̠̼̪̱͙̫̍̀͊̿̀̀͌̏̉̋̈́̄̚̚͘̕̕͝T̴̢̳͔̪̹̤̻̱̹̀͜Ḛ̸̩͓̟͚̥͚̖͋́̃͜L̸̥̱̟͈̭̺͔͖̔͆́̓̌̊̒̾͠L̸̡̢͚̫̱̯̜͔̟̘͎̉ ̷̨̛́̓͌́̂̋̂̚M̷͎̼̪̹̟̯̤̹̑̊͌̿̀͘͝ͅĘ̷̵̶̧͉̥̖̪̹̤̗̮̥̦̬͈̠̫̭͒͋̔̓͒̀̊͂͑̑̀͒̀̓̇̚͝͝Í̵̱̀̈́́̂̈́̇̑̈́̌̀̈́͠ ̷̠̩̯͎͔͙͕͙̔̆͐͗͛͒͑́̍̈̃͝ͅȀ̸̱͔̦̻̣̖͌͜M̴̷̴̢͔̻̦̱̤̥̖͎̳̖͍̰͍͖̳͚̭̦͚͍̟̜̳̀͂̋͋́̓̀̈̄̓̃̏̎̕̕͜͜͝͝ͅH̶̯̘͈͚͇̣͖͇̗̯̀͆̄̋̈́̓̃̍̆̄̂ͅĚ̴͈̞͇͙̙͚̬̪̍͑̑̽͗́́̈̋͘͘͘R̴͎̱̣͕̗̮̥̳̣̍̀̏́̔̚ͅE̴̡̪̗̟̿̀̏
>>98589326Mystic nonsense, what else? What ever it is, it is not sane. I just hope we can terminate it sooner rather than later.
>>98589346Oh my god you guys are so fucking illiterate>>98589326You know what I'm hearing whistling and howling so who crares anymore. I'm 90% sure this thing is asking about a precursor Org to the 'Glue keeping the technocracy together' these days. Speaking of which,>>98589341ALRIGHT YOU MADE YOUR POINT STOP THATTHE GUYS YOU WANT AR IN NEW YORK CITY, LONDON ENGLAND, SINGQAPOR, SHANGHAI AND DUBAI GTFO
>>98589356Please, Mr wise LSD tripping mystic, enlighten us all as to what that thing is. I want to hear what kind of nonsense superstitionists have to say.
>>98591810Could you take your foot of the 'self-important nob' button for a second? Because not only do I know about your history than you, you're now trying to milk me for intelligence?>N- No! Its not like that, its just the 1NT3L (we can't use people words for it or we get brain stabbed) is 143 levels of clearance above me and my knees still hurt from the last time I had to suck off my secondary-organizational-collective-manager!
>>98591934>you're now trying to milk me for intelligence?Hardly, I don't trust anything a superstitionist says unless they're strapped down and put through Enlightened interrogation techniques. I'm looking for entertainment, what else would I be doing here? Looking for "Ascension" or whatever bullshit you're peddling this month?
>>98589356What are you talking about? What is that thing? What is the thing talking about? I can barely read its text to be honest.
>>98592269Why don't you go torture some rats? It seems like something you'd like.>>98592521Specifically? I don't know. But using deduction we can make a few theories. >1This thing is an autonomous Avatar (oh excuse me; "Enlightened Genius") that was severed and beyond the physical world, but remained tied to it by yet unknown means. While I cannot stake any veracity to this theory it is theoretically possible. I've never had anything hone in on me like that beyond my own Self-Outside-Myself.>2This thing was one of us once. But was fundamentally altered by the environments of far realms. Either personally in order to survive or by forces already there. You know spirits? Imagine someone squishing you into a ghost shaped and ghost-functioning thing. Me no like this particular theory bit it is the one I'm personally in favour of, as I've read a bit about some of the things very early explorers of the beyond did to themselves.>3It is something alien to us but was in contact or heavily influenced by either of of us or an Avatar/Pretentious-Me-Ego. Things from way outside our ken are weird brother, and when SOME JACK ASS leaves the door open, those things get in.As for what I was talking about, it references (1) A very brief period of time for the Technerds where they were in bed with the British Empire and really started circle jerking about how smart and objective they were, and how they could control the entire world economy and make it do what they want. Which went really great in 1929. The terminology represents a brief organization of this in the 1800s before the modern structure of this organization took hold.It also mentions (2) another organization that forces my hand to offer the dogs in my neighbourhood white phosphorus. I wish that was just an absurd joke but it is not. Also you might need to decompile the text. Its what I did.
Also there is a mummified corpse on my door I gotta get the fuck outta here.
>>98592642Well im not tech-savvy so that makes sense. I guess i wont worry about the fiend unless he has something to do with my friend. He seems more interested in you if hes mailing mummies to your door.Ill take a moment to say, I dont believe in Avatars though. I think thats just symptomatic of internal dissonance with preconceptions. Those who cant understand things/themselves create a shade on which to project. Of course this may be its own preconception, but compare to the mages of old who either did not have Avatars, or were unaware of them. From what ive gathered from the Technocratsive talked to they dont have avatars in the same sense as the traditions even though they call them different terms when they are somewhat aware of them.
>>98584306By all means then, if you have a place I could lodge I would be grateful. Apparently there was a small incident there as well, the countryside is rife with "something". I look forward to getting some field practice in, and if you are to join e perhaps learn a thing or two from you.I did get a few books from the Order before I left, don't feel bad at all, I was the one who financed them. Maybe we can trade some knowledge
>>98593568Wallah, I am more of a librarian and a diplomat than a field man, but I would be happy to join. And indeed! I will have a small place over the border in Bosnia-Herzegovina. As for the last offer? I do not on principle trade books, but I would be happy to lend you tomes on grounds you allow me to take a few notes. For a few years of course, but the knowledge was never mine to cede or take. Have you any specific spheres or traditions you have an interest in for your trouble?>>98592642We are the audience to a bitter song sir, and I must err towards your second theory.When you sin so terribly as the Invisible Guild once did, making deals with Cold Things and Devils and even that most Hungry of Beasts? You accrue a debt. It seems that the enlightened house has allowed a collector through. Stay safe seeker. The Angel of the Sword keep your shadow.>>98593142It matters not if you believe of it. They are, and they are the most curious of things. A subject of envy, of accusations of possession, a limit test to the realm of I.
>>98594017If only the ones I met first were like you, man. It's a deal then, we will loan notes and books from another. If you have something regarding Matter or substance I would gladly take notes on it. Of the books I have one of them is in Latin regarding the flora of North Africa, the other concerns spirits written by a Byzantian monk, the third one is in some language I do not know, that one I can gift you freely if you can help translate it.Stay in touch friend, shall see you soon I hope.
>>98594211>If only the ones I met first were like you, man.One day you yourself must be a teacher and guide, as I hope to be the same. Mashallah.Now, I am fairly well read on the first two areas, but the third one I would like. I have adored translating from the first time I was 'thrown into the deep end' when I had to learn Hittite in a ruined tunnel to escape it. We will parse it together. Now for what I can lend you I have an Syriac copy of 'The Nine Serpents and the Tongue of Hatred' which is of Esctatic Origin, and the 'Book of Mummar' from my craft peers on fine properties Substance. I'll also toss in a copy of a naughty little pamphlet that slipped from the Iteration Guild. More concerned with bodily augmentation for the sake of it, but you might find some use out of it.>Stay in touch friend, shall see you soon I hope.And you. The Wind shall deliver you the final destination.
T̶̘͙͐e̶̹̺̊n̸̝͌ ̴̻̬̊͛̀I̵̗̋ ̴̣̀̎͛t̵͚͓́ö̷̧̭͉́̔͘o̵̪͐͋ͅk̵̷̸̛͇͖͙̹͔̋́̃͗͘ͅĄ̴̟̄͝n̴̢͐͑d̶̯̟̏̓́ ̷̬͓̖́̈́Ȋ̷̪͉̣́̀ ̶̡̤͒̾͜͠s̸̳̥͋̿h̶̜͗̈̏a̸̹̒l̷͚̬̈́̈́̔l̵͖̯͐͝ ̶̟̬̾͘t̵̛̳̪̩̆a̵̱͒͘͝ͅk̴̭̑͛͂ë̵̛͎ ̵̹̈́a̵̩̘̙͗g̷̢̱̃á̶̜̩̉͜i̶̻͇̊̀ñ̷̴̴̖͇̦̜̆̏͛͐̓̓ͅH̷̱͍̍̚å̷͓̺̈́p̷̪͈̿͗p̴̛͇̭y̷̶̶̺̺͖̬͔̜̍͌̀̉̒ͅH̵̢̭͊̂̈́a̴̱͚͋̿p̷̧͎͓͑̃̕p̷̧̨͈̌͝y̴̯̰͂ ̵̱́̀ẅ̶̤̑ȋ̵̩̣̈́̂l̸̛̼̽l̸͉̳̓ ̶̞̺̒̉̔Ȉ̵͈̜̗̽͛ ̶͕̮̌ḇ̶̞̯̀͌ë̷̶̵̪̝͙͈̰̇̿̆͘͘͝A̴͖͛͂s̸̫̟̬̐ ̴̼͆Ĩ̷̤̽̐ ̷͍̦͒͆̚t̴͉̣̓͛a̶͈̦̚ḱ̵̨̈́ę̷͕͙̉t̸̛̳͕h̶̜͍͈̓̋ ̸͓̒̐͜͝t̴̖́ẖ̶̛e̵̞̞̍͜ ̶̡͖͛̋̕l̶̛͜i̵̗̕͘͝t̵̘͉͈̿̂̑t̶̝͂̓̿ļ̵̀͐e̵͈̞̬͌͝ ̸̙͘o̷̥͆͐̌n̶̳̏̈́͝e̵̛̽͑͜s̴̶̵͇̟̦̤̆͛̔̓̆͌̚̕͝A̵̟͋̇͗n̸̤͇̾d̵̠̃ ̴̖̝̞̈͂D̵̹̦́̚ḁ̴̈́s̷̝̩̳͌h̸̘̬̫̐ ̵̢̙̙̽̈́̍t̵̤̼̾͒̃h̷̟̣̦͛́ě̸̜m̸̧̗̳̊ ̴̢͈͎̐o̶̺̳͗̾̈́n̷̩͂̒ ̸͙̏ͅt̵̡̹̱̓͋h̵̺̯́ẽ̸̙͖͍ ̷̠̒̏ȑ̶̔͜͝ó̴̬͈͉̔c̶̦̑k̵̝̼͂̎ś̵̹̜̤L̵̨̤̘̜̭̫͎͖̮̫̙̗͕͉̙̗̣̜̠̘͓̟͎͚̻͓̞̼̙͈̝̰͓̐̚͜Ơ̸̢̢̢͇̪̘͇̟̩̰̦̬̣̺̪̳̱͙̠̟͔͙̥̪̟͉̬̩̘̹͙̠̖̪̜͓͓̙͙̻̽̐̓͐̚͜͠͝͠͝ͅV̴̛̘̦͉̀̈̎͋͒̒̏̈́̌̎̇̋̃́̔̂͗́͊̿̍̄̔͒̚̕͝͝Ẻ̴̢̢͕̳̞̩̙̗̰̙̰̤̻͔̜͔͙̠̬̭̔͋̐̈́͒̑̍L̸̹͚̼̩̟̙̟̦͔̹̒͂͗͛͋̊̑̽́̈́͊́̕͘A̸̡̢̛̛͎͓͉̳̗̻̦̬̖̹̳͍̗̭̘͕̩̩̙̥̺̋͂̋͊̾͑̉͌̉̈́̍̄̒͆͂͗̊̒̔̀̆̀̽̿̽̇̈̕̚͝͝͠͝C̸̨̜̻̬̹͉̺̟̞̱͔̰̭̟͇͑͂̊̀͒̓̎͛̽̽̽͑̎̊̐̈́̍̌̀͒̏̀͌̑̾̂̈́̒͑̓̍̓̈́̍̚̕͝͝͝Ȩ̶̬̮͇̭͈͙͇̙̳̠̠͍͓͊̉͋̇͜ͅ
>>98592642See? Was that so hard? Thank you an interesting read.>>98597055Ok, this is getting weirder by the minute. Just what kind of freak are you? No riddles, no purple prose, just an honest answer. You're here to communicate so get to it.
Í̴̠̠̦̹̋̆͝ ̴̐̒͗͝ͅa̸͙̘̓̀͐̋ḿ̷̶̴̥͚̱͎̖̦̗̖̟͑́̍͊T̸̺̠̜́̾͒͝h̷̼̗̺̐a̵̗͙͇͘t̴̡̮̦͕͒̊̈́ ̶̜͓̤̇̓Ǐ̷̡̠̱͐̊ ̵̴̶̠̣̦̰̯͉͒̾̓̽̎̋̕Ắ̸̧̧̚͝m̸̵̵̧̧̘̘̫͕̤̞̦̟͗͋̆̆̒̎̕N̷̗̕ơ̴͚̄͑ ̵̙̳̋̂͒͜͝H̸̡̯̔̈e̵̟̣͇͋́̍͋a̷̹̘̹̒r̵̠̽̑̇͛ͅt̸̹̦̥́͌̇͑͜ ̴̪͈̓͋͋ṭ̴̈́ō̶͙̤͖̏ ̴̹̜̗͑̄̓S̵͎͂̚ṫ̸̢͖̰͚͗͋̚o̴̼̣̓͛p̴̶̷̰͙̼̣͔͈̫̫̈́̾̂͐̀̾͛̚Ñ̴̫̥̜͛͘o̶̙̔̓̀ ̶͕̾̊͌Ņ̷̆͆ṳ̷̮̹̼̔͝͝m̴͓̾̀͠b̶̨͂͗͌e̴͍̋̉͑ŕ̸̡͈̀͝ ̸̨̦̟̈́̇ṫ̷̢̜͕̕ợ̷̛͑ ̷͍̣̂̂͌͑͜S̶̘͖̕u̴̖̯̼͂̍̕͠b̷̤̈̇̈́͝t̴̰͚̜̞͠r̷̼͕̄̚a̶̧̛̺̥͎͂̆c̴̢͝t̷̷̷̡̨͕̥͎͗̾̍̇̂́̕͘͜͠͝N̴̗̝͇̉̃͠o̸̭͈̒ ̷̢̺̎́́̇M̴͕͈͝i̷͓̫̐͑͛̉n̷̯͔͗́͊̊d̵̖̀̋ ̵͓́̏̀͐t̷̠͖̽ö̴̺͇͈́̇̈̚ ̵͉̻̭̃̊̃̚B̷̤̼̳͔͐r̷͍͙̍͌̉è̸͖̝͆̂a̷̮̥̭̞̕k̸̴̻̻͌̔Ň̸̢̖̠̞̬̺̤̮̙O̷̙̝̘̤̖̰̍́̓͒̏̕͠ ̸̵̸̧̡̛͚̹̤̠͖̰͙̙̰̰̝̠̯͍͉̥͇͈̘̣͈͔̣̘̺̘̪̽͊̀͆̉͂͛̿̓͒͛́́̊̉̒̒͂̉̈́̀͐̑͋̏̎̕̕̚͜͝͠P̴̟̜̬̦̺͍̾̃̋̎́̈́̏̿̿̽͗͗̈Ą̵̩̱̙̻̻̑̀̊̐̄̋̓̍͊̈́͝R̷̛̞̫̦͙̘̱͇̳͓͈̪͉͆͊̊̾̔̔̔̊̈́̆͗̋͠Â̴̧̺̟̮̥͖͍̙͚̰͎̽͂̽̆̆͂̽D̵̨̡̨̠̭̰̱̘̜͖͍̄͜Ò̶̧̯͔̜̼̽͂̿͂X̷͔͚̰͕̹̠͆͊́̒͑͛̾̾̈́̏̒̈̊͌
>>98600477Stop talking to the Mauraders. It never goes well. You know this.
Right. Relocation complete. I love the sea. Nothing bad happens near the sea.>>98602896Not a Marauder. I checked the resonance structures it left behind in the corpse.There was nothing that matched the two waves I've had the misfortune of witnessing and nothing that matched what I've read up on. Plus I don't know how in the loop you are but the boys down in London treated Mister Whispers here like a Marauder. Apparently you are down some boys too. Weird that.Now because your side of the fence blew up the home before my last home I'm not feeling charitable with advice. But I'll tell you this. There was no Madness. There was none of your Clarity. It isn't a thing of the Jhor even. The closest thing I got was resonance with Mars>Silly Alchemical Superslutious-THE PLANET>>98601718Right, since were good friends I'll make a request. Can you give me a year to work with?
>>98602896Their madness evades all forms of measurement, I know. Still, imagine being able to discern anything concrete about them. That's one way to score a promotion and prestige.
>>98603026>Nothing bad happens near the seaGet a load of this guy
>>98601718Mr. Scary voice, did you do anything to my friend on the upper peninsula?
>>98606510N̴͇̙̗̏̉̋̌̇̆̚ō̴̩͔͍̑͌̔ṫ̴̬̗̘͍͖͠ ̷͍̝͙̺̣͍͉̺͉̤̉̈͝ͅḮ̵̢̛̯̗̟͍̮̺̯̦̫͔́̔͌̔̈́͐̃͘ͅÀ̵̧̠͇̙̙̤̱̙͎̾͐̚͘ͅn̷̢͎̳̙̖̳͚͕̱̘̹̙͖͙͖̑̈̀͆̀̓͐͂̏͝͝d̶̘͔͚̻̜̻̺͙̞̟̮̣͇̈̓́̄͒́̿̈́̌̔͝ŕ̶̙̹̎́̒͑̋́̏̍̊̈̕͝o̵͔̪̻̿͑́g̴̛̤̱͋̑̈́̒y̵̢̡̺͉̹͚͔̞̟̮̐́͂͂̍̈́͋͂̓̊͘͜͝ņ̵̙̟͈͚͈̤̩̞͕̟̙̆̌̃̄̉̀̕͠ȩ̵̖̘̹̙̺͙̈́͗ͅş̶̿̊̐̈͊̽̾͝
>>98606510I don't think it's coherent enough to get any real answears.
>>98609822Maybe at face valueBut with a little bit of digging apparently it turns up some 'little grey men' reportsThe title is affiliated with two recorded abductions of two separate people in 1968 and 1971 respectively, both kept imprisoned for exactly a year and a day, and both reports described the testimony as 'the Androgynes'Weird
>>98610012And, as always, Void Engineers will jump through every hoop in order not to explain what actually went down. I think it's about time we stop pretending that we don't know that they're not telling us the whole story.
>>98610766Do you-Do you know how much digging I need to do just to find this?! Do you know how UFO and abduction reports get filed!?Because I do and I want to walk out my air lock because of itWhat are you expecting- Me to start handing out ETs Shoe-Size and Zodiac sign!? I have to reference and cross-reference for hours and when I share the bases I get whining?! Guess what bimboy theres *always* going to be more to explain and if I wanted to tell you the whole story I'd be here for *days*and most of it is useless half century babble that mentions the nameThe most pertinent intelligence I'll give you is this. These little grey freaks are weird for several reasons and don't line up with other UFO-GAs. Why? IDK maybe theyre just space mystics
>>98610917I don't expect you to explain anything, that's the job of your Convention and it's leadership. I think we both know that they're not very keen on sharing. Going back to our little problem...I want to know the important stuff: What is it? What are it's weaknesses? Who do we call to deal with it?>maybe theyre just space mysticsGreat, as if we didn't have enough of these loons to deal with already.
>>98611280They don't fit any conventional understanding of Greys we have. No signs of Tech, the only hypothetical encounter (and why I say they resemble mystics) ended with the "ship" vanishing. Not fast transmission. Not subsumption or passage beyond reality manifolds. No signals at all. It vanished like it was never there.Accordingly. Theres a forum thread with 7098 pages in my network that is pure bickering about what these things are. Everything from mystic Greys to manifested hallucinations to a splinter cell of devolved VEs to even Cryptids making to invade reality under a new manifestation. Which if the last one is true they succeeded. And to make matters worse IDK who even gets first dibs. Some guys in PROGEN want to drop a fission bomb on these things because Victim number 2 is now one of the most successful Crystal-Healing grifters in the State of [REDAC] oh I can't even no cool cool cool. Fine. We have a senior here who apparently remembers the first incident and wants to settle the score, and of course the Tower and the Money Boys are already notified but are negotiating on the how of it.
>>98611467Don't tell me, the Ivory Tower is too busy debating what the proper protocol is? We should hit it and hit it hard. just like we used to do before the management changed. Aliens invading is bad enough, aliens invading AND propping up superstitionists is way worse. Any info related to our crystal lover? Accidents happen to people all the time, especially the tragic kind.
>>98612235>Any info related to our crystal lover? Accidents happen to people all the time, especially the tragic kind.She was 'terminated twice.' According to PROGEN docs they're willing to share, and judging by the heavy redactions they overkilled on the second attempt and just caused an incident. Back during Covid apparently. Turned her into a Martyr and word is she might have protection from someone in the SYN. Probably because her books 'Rise of the GOD-President' and 'Dreaming; The TRUTH' made somebody a lot of money. It's why this particular situation is so god damn weird. Basically everyone except IT-X is compromised somewhere and we are missing something important. They're not invaders they're just dickheads!But listen, you want to cross-reference and find where this is connected to through a certain author, go for it. I've noticed another correlation here with some other abductions that follow a different pattern. I'll report back when I can.
>>98605795I have a source which claims certain scientists have an underwater pyramid that serves as an arcology. I believe he believed that but IDK if it is true or not and it isn't something I'm motivated to investigate.>>98610012>exactly a year and a dayIs there a reason for that? Because I know the fae and verbena place significance on the year and a day thing.
>>98607469Start talking plain or I'm going to sic a dozen virtual adepts on decoding you.
>>98613807Ń̷̨̡̠̺̙̘͚̬̭̙̣̖́̌̎̆̏̆̒̀̄̋͌͆̊͜͠o̴̡̧̦̠̪̰̣̠͚̗̪̿̎n̴̼̝̙̭̼̳̻̟͗̀̌̀̿̀͠ŝ̵̨̘͇̼͎̭̺̤͉̜̳̦̪͐̂̈́̒̓̈́̃͠͝͝ͅé̶̛̟͇̖̼͔͎͕̟̹́͆͛̈́͂̏̋̄͒̑̀͘ͅn̴̘̫̾̒̐̀̍̓̔̍͋̔̂̓͑͛̀s̶̡̢͕̮̼̩͚̞̖͊̕͝͠e̷̡̡̧̞͖͉͔̘͚̐̾ ̶̟̟̟̺̳̥̊̐̄́̓̐̈́̑̕͠W̸̡̼͖̫͈͖͓̘͎̿̈́͋̀́̽̇̆̋̚͠ö̴̡̖͇̥̤͚̼̱͚̹͖̻̠́͜r̶̢͇̰̙͓̟̭͎̣͖̜̹͜ḑ̶̧̛͉̹͓̳̯̭̭̰̹̈͛̐̽̄̃̒̚͘͠ͅͅs̴̵̷̡̢̡̛̛̭̦͇̗̝̹͇̩̮͉̩̙͈͓̯͕̿́̊̈͑͒̓͝Y̷͔͋̒̐̐͊͝e̸͖̼̓̈̀͊̀̍́̔̄̐̆̆̍̚t̵͔͕̩̘̯̞͕͇̓̆̏̀͑̈́̓͜͠.̸̡̟͚̩̫̀̀̈́̀̓͑̒̾̊̄͘͝.̶̞̖̪͈̙̭̬̣͚̟̟͇́͒̔.̷̵̷̛͎͕͚̪̼̜̦͉̣͕͈̻̣̣̜̈́͂̿̀̓̀̐̐͆̔̓͌͛͋͑̿̈́̋̑̍̀̔̀͘̚͠͠͝͝A̶̧͍̼̯̺͇̠͗̐̍̕n̵̡͓̣̮̱̰͚͎̏̍̃͗͒͊̈́̑̆͋̆ͅä̷̡̧͎̤͓͉̜̠͇̗̰̤̪̗́͐̊̿͑̂͑͐͌͋l̸͎̤̝̠̃y̸͓̎͊̽̌͛̾͛͒̑̇̆͝t̸̮͛̋̀̉̔̂̑̑͑̉̕͠į̸̮̼̩̎̈́́̌̇͑͜ç̷̻͖̻̘̳̖͙̜̣̺͒̀͂͌̐̾̐̑͊̂͋̚̕͝s̴̮̰͉̄͑̋̕͜͝?̷̖͓̓̄͊̽̊̃̾͗̓̒͂̈̀ ̷̞̇̊̔̍̊̆̌̕͘̚͜͝͝ͅĶ̷͙͇̬̳̤̦̣̠̖̖̫̦̇͜i̶̧̢̬̤̻̤̙̣̟̟̘̗͊͒́̄̂̈́̋͐̆͜͝ṋ̵̛̥̓̾̚͝͝?̷͓̯̠͕̥̩̃̀͌̂̃͒̈́̾̿̔͋͝ͅͅ
>>98612456>Probably because her books 'Rise of the GOD-President' and 'Dreaming; The TRUTH' made somebody a lot of money.And Media Control won't forgive them any time soon. Progs don't understand how the masses work. Public perception matters more than whatever they write in some science paper that has 20k readers worldwide. It's better to give these lunatics a platform and watch them embarrass themselves.>But listen, you want to cross-reference and find where this is connected to through a certain author, go for it. I've noticed another correlation here with some other abductions that follow a different pattern. I'll report back when I can.I hope you or your bosses take a closer look at this. I don't like that it knows about our R&D.
>>98615439>And Media Control won't forgive them any time soon.Media control is half the problem! They've gotten so fucking sloppy and captured by internal politicking they might as well be supernaturalist plants! And for some fucking reason the Progs had the right idea! Fucking smack the wacko or throw her in a cell! But no muh grand scheme says I gotta humour the people saying we put chips in the vaccines!New House Cleaning when?
>>98616165>But no muh grand scheme says I gotta humour the people saying we put chips in the vaccines!And look how far that got them. Should have replaced her with a clone and have the clone slowly addopt "new" ideas. Media humiliation would also work, antivax is one of the easiest and safest targets out there. The masses need subtle influence, Iteration X doesn't handle union PR for that very reason. Also, you want to clean house? Really? Your convention would be the first one to go.
>>98616768>Also, you want to clean house? Really? Your convention would be the first one to go.I will die happy as long as I get to drop a colony ship on the advertising ghouls.
>>98616811And you guys wonder why you're called the Mad Convention.
>>98616914OH I AM MAD (FURIOUS)
>>98616953Take some chill pills then. You can afford those, right?
>>98617140May the great collider reincarnate you as a gnat bill-worshiper.
>>98617560>reincarnateSorry, I don't believe in superstitionist fairy tales. Sounds likes you'll be getting a visit from the ivory Tower soon.
>>98617588Just give me a reason, we should have been rid of their dead weight ages ago. And yours.
Alright stop that right now we are not instigating the destruction of the Convention folks.
>>98617740>It-X just wants to blow up Igs with bionic weapon implants>PROG is led by people doing doctor moreau shit>VE will actually just glass portions of the planet>Syn might as well just be worshiping money now>NWO despite being full of idiots and control freaks gets to run the time table and exhibit unprecedented control, despite them having the worst history of calls Is the union even worse saving?
>>98617740Where is Control when you need it?
>>98617799No idea about It XProgenitors probably ended covidVoid Engineers blasted some vamps so that's basedThe syndicate 10,000% worships an egregore called The MarketNWO probably doesn't even know they did covidWhich one of you did the moon landing? That was great and my niece thanks you.
Ok the moon landing comment probably comes off sarcastic but I actually mean it. So I'll give a rundown on my side.Akashics: Would probably do more if they stopped meditating on their mountain, but every once in a while they train some white frat boy who goes as uses Do to go dunk on some drunks in a bar fight.Euthanatos: Everyone is so scared of the spooky murder mages but then you look and they kill Epsteins and cartel torturers and you wonder why everyone is so scared.These two will start murdering each other if you technocrats fuck off from the "mud ball" for a bit.Dreamspeakers are barely even an organization and more of a mailing list. For some reason they seem proud of that. As individuals they're pleasant enough and may be an accomplished individual. Look around the world and ask yourself if individuals or coalitions are running things.Etherites: Oh look at me, you can't possible decode my l33t speak, like I'm not fluent in six languages. Ok enough when you get away from the 90s hacker types and the older ones are cool. Younger ones have more faith than choristers.Celestial Chorus: Apparently they used to be worse but now their fairly chill, if you get the forgiveness types. Seem to hate vampires and run soup kitchens so good on em. Which ever one of your conventions is behind the AI push is going to run into problems with "Poe Leo's Strongest Soldier" so heads up there. Somehow less devout than the syndicate.Etherites: Seem fine, keeps the joy of science alive. Just let em info dump about the "mechadendrites" and they're happy. Probably doing well these days, I've been busy lately.Ecstatics: Bunch of junkies that seem like they aren't contributing anything but then you realize half the technocracy is leaking info to them for either pussy or their drugs.
Verbena are the biggest disappointment. I like gardening so I thought they'd be helpful, instead they just farm and are proud of the fact their "vegan co-op" doesn't use any magic.Only in the traditions as a technicality. I doubt they even see themselves as members and are just in it for the seat of life. If you technocrats take a vacation for a few years they'll probably start burning the choristers in wicker men.
>>98620244>Ok enough when you get away from the 90s hacker types and the older ones are cool.Easy for you to say. You're not the one who got stabbed in the back.
>>98620250As the carrier of some of the last Manxish Druidism in the Verb these days, we might as well be 30 lineages in a trench coat man. I've seen everything from actual blood cults that are partially responsible for triggering the creation of the Technerds, literal hippes in time bubbles, the vestiges of now lost religions and entirely new religions. Which would be cool if some of them remembered we don't all speak Vasconic. Bastards.And I wouldn't be so sure, a quarter hate the choristers sure but a third of us will jump the jumpers. And there's enough old lore hidden around that- If you'll forgive me for saying- Probably for the best that we all leave sleeping dogs lie.But hey you want to see some real shit and you find yourself in Britain ask. >>98613637Wait, I didn't notice that. Sidhe aliens? Now I've heard of everything.
>>98620250>instead they just farm and are proud of the fact their "vegan co-op" doesn't use any magic.They're also great customers. It's amazing how easy it is to sell "magic" bullshit to the masses.
>>98620719To be fair, I've only heard their side of the story.>>98621546While I'll be occupied elsewhere for at least three months, I would be interested in anything vaguely related to the intersection of Platonic Ideals and farming. IDK if it'd be the sidhe, doesn't feel like their thing but I've only met five of them. Maybe the cyborgs from House Dougal?>>98623823Maybe I'm distracted but I haven't really seen Wicca being marketed. Wicker Man feels like the magic version of an anti war film that gets people to enlist but I can't think of that much Wiccan media.
>>98623882>Maybe I'm distracted but I haven't really seen Wicca being marketedIt's not mainstream (for a reason) but it's really popular amongst some groups. A few weirdos here and there start adding up and the money starts coming in. It also helps with enforcing the consensus.
>>98624001>It also helps with enforcing the consensus.Surely if the syndicate was faced with the choice of making money but messing with the consensus they'd prioritize the consensus. Surely.
>>98623882>To be fair, I've only heard their side of the story.They used to go by "Analytical Reckoners" before they went traitor. Makes sense once you think about it, they always were pretty close with the Sons of Ether. They couldn't live the rest of their lives in hiding, oh no, they had to start fucking with the consensus.>>98625020>making money but messing with the consensus they'd prioritize the consensus.Tampering with the consensus for money is something an associate might suggest. Money is the least valuable resource out there.
>>98623882There are a type of 'folk' for everything, and the knowing ones have a bone to pick with the idea of platonic ideals. Granted, my one actual friend among their ranks is alright with how warped her 'kind' are. Poor girl needs me to shimmy up so I can hear what she's saying. Still, was invaluable in helping me get better at certain arts.Also I still have a mark on the assholes behind the Yank Wicker Man. Wow cool bru, you took my regionalist-imperialist question piece and you made it about crazy evil women and bees. Thanks. Love yas man.>>98625822>Tampering with the consensus for money is something an associate might suggest. Money is the least valuable resource out there.Yea, problem is you've got people addicted to all kinds of power. Money is a resource but it is power. And some folk can't ever get enough of it.
>>98626060>Yea, problem is you've got people addicted to all kinds of power. Money is a resource but it is power. And some folk can't ever get enough of it.We're not in the business of changing human nature, we leave that to other conventions. We simply focus on channeling that want for power into advancing our goals. Carrot and stick kind of thing.
>>98625822Yes yes, you took a perfectly good ars cupiditae and turned it into fractional reserve banking so now the money is fake and gay but still somehow wound up not having enough money so the GFC happened, I'm aware.
>>98627977>ars cupiditaeSorry, me no hablo mental retardo. Gonna have to use more consensus-friendly terms :)
Me and Fem-Control have started a producitive>relationshipIn order to take care of issues like.>>98617856>̷̛͈̻̣̣̜̋̑̍̀̔̀͝A̶̧͍̼̯̺͇̠͗̐̍̕n̵̡͓̣̮̱̰͚͎̏̍̃͗͒͊̈́̑̆͋̆ͅä̷̡̧͎̤͓͉̜̠͇̗̰̤̪̗́͐̊̿͑̂͑͐͌͋l̸͎̤̝̠̃y̸͓̎͊̽̌͛̾͛͒̑̇̆͝t̸̮͛̋̀̉̔̂̑̑͑̉̕͠į̸̮̼̩̎̈́́̌̇͑͜ç̷̻͖̻̘̳̖͙̜̣̺͒̀͂͌̐̾̐̑͊̂͋̚̕͝s̴̮̰͉̄͑̋̕͜͝?̷̖͓̓̄͊̽̊̃̾͗̓̒͂̈̀ ̷̞̇̊̔̍̊̆̌̕͘̚͜͝͝ͅĶ̷͙͇̬̳̤̦̣̠̖̖̫̦̇͜i̶̧̢̬̤̻̤̙̣̟̟̘̗͊͒́̄̂̈́̋͐̆͜͝ṋ̵̛̥̓̾̚͝͝?̷So quiet now Children, Mommy and Daddy need a little alone time.
>>98629010F̴͕̬͒̕a̷͎̕͝l̷̝̫̈l̴̖̇è̶̙͚͘n̷͔̔̓ ̸̰͓̋ć̶̨h̴͓̪̆i̶̞͗l̵̒ͅḍ̶̚ë̷̹͔́.̴̸̸̧͇̙͙̎̀̎́̎S̷̫̱͑̃ę̷̘͆̇ẻ̶͇k̵͛.̸͈̻̋̄ ̶̻͋̚I̶̟̞̊͊n̶̢̥͋ ̷͓̏̽B̸͕͛̇o̵̩͗͝s̷̪̈́̕t̸̡̮̃̇o̸͚̮̿n̷̼͐͊.̸̜̆͌ ̶̨̾I̴̗̓̿n̴͎̬̈͌ ̴̑͝ͅt̵͎̹̋h̶̦̫̏͝ĕ̷̦͝ ̸̡̠͊R̴̛̼̩̚è̶̱̕d̵̰̣̋ ̶̜͆̐H̴̫̏̌o̴̥̗̓ǘ̴͔̾s̴̓͊e̶̬͆̏.̸̸̷̬͈̠̪̮̊̑̐̐Y̸̭͑͜o̶͚̞͐u̸͈͑ ̶̣͎͗̽ẘ̴̖i̷͍̜͋̍l̷̢̙̀l̵̦̏̊ ̸̯̞͒͝k̵̠̓n̴͓͗̌o̸̞̬̓w̷͕̚.̶̸̵̯̟̥̞̖̰͂́͊͒̽A̸̺n̶̝̑͊d̵͖̞̈͝ ̷̛͇͂y̸̛͔̙͂ô̵̥ủ̸̧͝ ̸̡̗͘̕w̵̖̘̌̈ï̶̟̾l̴̞̿l̵̨̯̒̉ ̴̗̥̑̇H̸͚̥̐̚A̶̛̦̚T̴͓͂E̴͎̙̓͝.̷̠̬͒
>>98628989Could the side of the war of the allegedly knowledgeable and intelligentRECRUIT LESSFUCKIN MOUTHBREATHERS MAN>Oh hur dur you microagressed me with your superstitious language I send you to the BRAIN-PUNCTURE room with all other mongoloids :)USE YOUR BASIC DEDUCTIVE REASONING TO INFER ANSWERS YOU DEGENERATE TODDLER YOU SOUND LIKE THE FUCKING IGNORANT """""MASSES""""" YOU ALLEGEDLY LORD OVER, BITCHING AND WHINING AND ENDLESSSSSSLY SMUG ABOUT YOUR OWN STENCH
>>98629010Calling your left hand Control is an interesting move. >>98631275Sounds like someone is mad they didn't get invited to join the winning side :)
>>98631473Tell me what happens when you win.
>>98631674The dream of static reality is complete. Order is brought to the universe (Predictability brings safety), all that is will be discovered and cataloged (Knowledge must be absolute or chaos will envelop all). Tehnology will elevate mankind to the point where crime, poverty, war, disease won't exist anymore. That also includes reality crime, reality deviance won't even exist as a concept, other non-human deviants will be brought to extinction and be erased from history. We will create a world where humanity is free from things that should not exist. A world where mankind rules the universe through science and technology, no longer held back by silly superstitions and deviants. That's what will happen once we the last Timetable is completed. I'm on the frontlines every day and making sure that future happens. I know I probably won't live long enough to see our dream become reality and that's ok. I fight so that others can have a better future, a future where no innocent person will be a victim of superstitionists, madmen, nephandi, blood-drinking parasite, entities from other dimension and their little pets and whatever else it out there.
>>98632753Do you know what 'Utopia' actually means? "No-Place." Because you would simply create a new type of hell in your pursuit. A world without crime? A world without freedom to ever lay a hand upon another, to never err, to never fail. A world without poverty? A world without choice where all is allotted with barest thought, and taken with even less. A world without disease? Only the agony of the slowest rot and twisting of age whence all that was is crushed into ever newer more horrible shapes, and the living flesh of all ancestors crushes the newly born. It would not be humanity ruling the universe through science and technology. You would crucify humanity on a padded cross and call it safety, and you would keep pushing. Like a computer that understands only the idea of the command, naught else. And that will shove tubes to feed men down their throats, and it will shove needles into their brains to free them from pain and thoughts, and it will bind them. Until they are unrecognizable. Flesh unable to hurt, or be hurt, feckless and ignorant. Perpetual masses.You would have only made a world where men are tortured softly. By their 'keepers.' Forever. Until the foundations you have blinded yourself too crumble, and new cancers draw from the spaces you refused to see. Things 'acceptable' to that world will grow, and they will take the shapes that you annihilated. It has happened once. It will happen again. And like the Traditions before you, you will make your unmaking.Unless. Unless you learn the lesson of the Wheel Rim Road. That there shall be no ending. Not if the great Serpent devours reality, and not if you bind it in glass until it shatters. As was made, so shall it be unmade, and made again.
>>98631473Listen I don't criticize your >ritual onaholeSo please don't mention my MJ inspired 'control glove' line of bespoke gloves here. It's rude.
>>98632872I know you guys love your philosophy and deeper meanings but this is the optimal path. The whole "natural cycle" bit is outdated. Nature of the universe is a problem to be solved, just like regular nature. More importantly, our future is the one the masses want and we have no reason not to give them what they need. >>98633165>>ritual onaholeI buy mine off the internet, like a normal person. Don't need any mystical bullshit.
>>98637290>our future is the one the masses wantIf that was the case you wouldn't have the NWO.You know that isn't true, we know it isn't true, you know we know that isn't true so can we just be honest here?
>>98637290>Deeper meaning?>Internal comprehension?>Alternatives?>NO! I JUST WANT TO SERVE CONTROL!I don't know what's more depraved, the fact your masters clearly don't buy that Mantra anymore or the fact you guys do. You are describing a fate worse than death for the whole universe and you lack the fucking brain capacity to consider why thats a bad idea!
>>98632872>Unless you learn the lesson of the Wheel Rim Road. That there shall be no ending. Not if the great Serpent devours reality, and not if you bind it in glass until it shatters. As was made, so shall it be unmade, and made again.Sounds like the order's Prophecy of the Phoenix.
>>98640184That is more of a coincidence actually. Not unlike the theories of the Big Bang and the Big Crunch.The Prophecy is a finite moment, a balancing. But the infinite is... Humbling. >>98637290You reject the roots of your very order. Embracing Anti-Intellectualism and Elitism for a finite moment.And it shows. You are being used and some of your peers here show it.
>>98638180If you weren't constantly poisoning the well we wouldn't need most of those suits. >>98638822>You are describing a fate worse than death for the whole universe and you lack the fucking brain capacity to consider why thats a bad idea!I'm sure the idea of a world where science triumphs and order is brought to the universe is scary to you. It's perfectly normal for a human to fear what he can't comprehand. >>98640387>You reject the roots of your very order. Embracing Anti-Intellectualism and Elitism for a finite moment.I disagree, we promote science and reason wherever we go, we protect the masses from internal and external threats. That's on top of improving their lives through technology. Anti-Intellectualism? I'm not the one who clings to outdated social models and disproven scientific theories. What you call elitism we call meritocracy.>You are being used and some of your peers here show it.You're right, I am following orders sent from my higher ups, that's how hierarchies work. Someone has to get wet for others to stay dry, I'm sure you understand what I mean. Also, my peers? Those 2 Void Engineers? I'd call them fellow Union members but not peers (no offence, guys.). Our goals and methods are way too different with the exception of that kid, fighting is something we both got in common. Void Engineers might have the reputation of unpredictable cowboys but they all fall in line when top brass wants something done.
>>98641958>MFW they just created a shittier version of the HermeticsSorry to tell you this but I do understand your end goal. Better than you. Your design for the universe is existentially dreadful and the type of thing dreamed up by a control freak who'd prefer to exist sealed within a translucent salt brick. Then forcing that on everyone else and pretending you're perfect. The lack of sympathetic reasoning is almost cartoonish.
>>98641958>If you weren't constantly poisoning the well we wouldn't need most of those suits.You made more Hermetics with your nonsense harry potter bullshit than we could ever go out and find. They may be annoying but a node claimed by potter kids is still a node. It's also made us far more productive as the threat of being assigned an apprentice that wants to fix Malfoy keeps the experienced Hermetics from slacking.>Implying the NWO would turn in their badge and their brainwashing if all the traditions just quit
Apparently the city I'm headed to is infested with snake cults. Anyone have any experience with these blood suckers? At least this strain of them isn't turning people into flesh pillars so that's a relief.
>>98641958What is a scientific theory if not something tested? You yourself will happily dispose of evidence if it goes against your consensus! The consensus you MAKE! Wallah! How unrighteous! Empiricism is a process of testing and learning first, not lying to reality to force it to how you think it should look! You have created an altar to a false Idol and call it reason!If there is even an ounce of doubt, consider if you would throttle one above you if they were unlawful in your goals. If the answer is 'no' you are a slave and a dog. If the answer is 'yes;' I will remind you.>If you should meet the Prophet on the road: Kill Him.w>>98643513Ah. Snakes? Cobras? Some of my teachers had... Grudges. Inshallah, I would hope you are cautious. They are among the most like actual threats. Even above those of the twisting and bending, they seek to-Ah. You see the funny lion-headed serpent just above? They are of those beliefs, and desire above all the annihilation of the false worldly god and their apotheosis. Though by more conventional and present political maneuvering. Awaiting the day when their Jackal Headed progenitor will return to them and upturn the world of Vampires, the word of Man, and even the heavens.But, I shall tell you! They are the weakest to the touch of the sun, and even simulacrum! But beyond that they are Hydra! Taking ten thousand forms, each head a different breed of cult! But not all are necessarily hostile. Indeed their Jihad is most often against others of their kind!
I made it to the Balkans, there is definitely something in the air that the sleepers cannot recognize, almost like a weight placed on the air or maybe it is only the change in pressure.As a short side-note, the members of the Chantry I was part of have been blowing up my phone, I had to change my sim card and phone number but their Virtual Adept keeps finding me. They think I have been mind controlled or defected lmao, I sent a letter to the Hermetics in Prague and it should've arrived by nowAnynway, I just got to Belgrade since that was the cheapest flight, I have been here a day and I cannot find anyone that would belong to the traditions, an underground Celestial Choir group was just missing. They had a base near the Danube but it was all fucked up, personal belongings laying everywhere covered in dust, clothes torn to shreds. The whole building was situated on top of a node that felt "misaligned", I don't know how to describe it, I didn't overstay and left as soon as I could. Does anyone have information about mages near Belgrade or Bosnia? I plan to cross the border in a couple of days.
>>98645718That side of the Peninsula is rife with phenomena.Ghosts, Wild Blood-Drinkers, Moon Children, Necromancers and Life Magi are drawn to these lands, and there are at least three marauders wandering to the East of my little mountain Village. But, all tend to congregate nearer to demesne of old Serbia. Perhaps a consequence of the sins of ancient treacherous revanants.
>>98645918Those things do not give me peace at all, the atmosphere is unsettling and I feel very on edge. A rugged looking man has been following me since I left the Choir Chantry, he doesn't know I have noticed. I need to cut my plans short and will book a bus to Bosnia as soon as I can. Perhaps I can lay low within the borders until our paths cross friend.The people are disturbed, the student protests here are not entirely just anti-corruption, the people seem driven by something else more malicious. I am writing this as I walk to the station, the man is following as well keeps pace with mewill keep updatesupdating*some people look like they were dipped in oil and wringed
>>98646008Unsettling.Keep yourself safe until nightfall, I have a friend who might be of assistance.
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>>98642384>keeps the experienced Hermetics from slacking.All five of 'em? Doesn't matter, sci-fi is all the rage these days and it just so happens to align with the Timetable. What a coincidence...>>98643597>What is a scientific theory if not something tested? You yourself will happily dispose of evidence if it goes against your consensus!We have tested everything and our research shows that deviant influence goes against the nature of the universe. You're violating the natural order of things through unknown (for now) means and contact with entities from other dimensions. And yeah, I would deal with anyone who's corrupt, higher-up or not. All of us have a duty to protect the Union from all sorts of threats, treason is one of them. I see no need to adress the whole Prophet thing, it's rooted in superstition. Unless, you're talking about literally going against Control, in which case I'm not stupid enough to even consider that. >>98646008Sounds like you're dealing with a possible case of reality toxin and it's effects. I'd advise lethal force or leaving it to professionals.
>>98647137>I see no need to adress the whole Prophet thing, it's rooted in superstition. It is a metaphor. Unless you are so spineless and weak the mere invocation of tradition is enough to make you kneel like a slave? Because for all your talk you sound the part. Incapable. Feckless. Hiding behind words like the magi of old.It matters not. As of now you sound like a coward whose deference to the union fails where it matters.Control is your IDOL and you are their DOG.
>>98647257>It is a metaphor. Unless you are so spineless and weak the mere invocation of tradition is enough to make you kneel like a slave?I'm sure the NWO is into that kind of thing but not me. I have the internet, I can look all these ancient "wisdoms" up. I know what it means. That's the thing about these metaphors rooteed in mysticism, they're all simple messages dressed up to sounds more profound than they really are. Can't deny that the masses like those kinds of things, fortune cookies were a great idea. >Control is your IDOL and you are their DOG.Yes, they're my bosses and I do what they tell me to do. That's how organizations works. Get a real job and maybe you'll understand.
>>98646112I made it, my bus just passed Loznica, quick passport check and I crossed the border. My heart is beating like a drum holy shit. The man didn't have a ticket and couldn't board but stood outside and stared at me until the bus left.I still feel followed but I am calming my nerves with coffee and books. Wolf howls all around, I will get off at the next big city and look for a hotel.>>98646519Fuck you and your VA larping, every time you post something weird happens. Stop fucking with the lights and the engine.>>98647137>Sounds like you're dealing with a possible case of reality toxin and it's effects. I'd advise lethal force or leaving it to professionals.I am having a hard time sympathizing with your side man, you keep recommending force against sleepers. Trust me I would fix this if I could but holy shit, it feels like a storm in Belgrade. I don't it can be solved, just wait for it to pass.
>>98648516>you keep recommending force against sleepersIn most cases these things are not human, not anymore. Letting them live will only cause more problems down the line, including innocent people getting hurt.
It's a relief to find a place to vent. This past year has taken a lot out of me. As finding out your perception and understanding can change reality would to anyone, and that's not even getting into the control freak losers running the world and demanding that everyone join their technocracy and get their brain fucking erased. Seriously, I could have been conned into joining them if my supercat had not found an old forgotten technocrat bunker from the 80s with its "preliminary induction facilities" still intact. I can't imagine how these so called reality deviants could be any worse. It was all worth it, because thanks to a whole fucking library with progenitor literature, a bunker to scavenge for parts and the scans of some psionic conceptual lifeforms that looked like spiders I have a mech I can plug myself into. I'll take her to space once I straighten out the kinks. On the topic of those psionic conceptual lifeforms, is there another name for them? The literature in the bunker was suspiciously quiet about them when they're everywhere. They've been a lifesaver so far, if I try to push things too far myself I end up getting hit by paradox, but when I merge them with my creations and my pets they can go far above baseline without issues. Are they even lifeforms or are they a manifestation of the universe's natural laws?
>>98562237Yes! Yes! Homunculus-Prince, don't move the reflection in the mirror. You can't change the reflection. Break the mirror! Break the mirror!Look beyond the mirror. Look at what the world is.
>>98648233I am not talking about the NWO, I talk about you. What do you do? It is no honest labor I think. You do not work in the fields, collecting dates and piling them in baskets as I have. You do not fish beneath a boiling sun on a skiff, you do not herd camels, you do not work with the sick and bury the dead. I have worked many jobs as a youth. And it was when I was struck and berated I was shown a formal position matters not. Unworthy men, teachers, priests, merchants, all aught to be toppled.You do not understand this baser truth. They are not your bosses. They are your masters, who you think a 'formal' relation absolves you. Like a child saying magic words to make everything 'fine' after their father beats them. You wrap yourself in a cloak of modernity in just the same manner as a hermetic of old would dress himself in starry robes.You have already knelt to the Prophet on the road. He just wears a suit and calls himself your manager. Craven dog. >>98648516Best of luck brother. You should only be a day out from where I am, but the paths are treacherous. But, Inshallah, traveling at night is safer. I have friends.Also, do not fret over our... Haunting. It is not against us. >>98648757Mental things are, by their very definition, difficult to define. As varied as the natural kingdoms of life, even in inverse abstraction.Alas, I can advise you little. The only encounter of note with such things I can recall is a companion whose presence was anathema to them. He died back when Bush bombed Iraq. Poor fellow.
>>98643597I am familiar with Gnosticism (or "Gnosticism" as when everything gets called Gnostic nothing is) and while I expect these are more actual Gnostics, I chose to believe that the world is both good and capable of being better. I believe I shall stay inside the first few nights after I arrive and get a sense of the new city before venturing out at night.Thank you for your advice.>>98645718>I sent a letter to the Hermetics in Prague and it should've arrived by nowHave you made it past Zelator and included that fact in your letter? If so you should be successful unless he's figured out a cure for cancer or such and is resting on "I just need one more month to fix..." for the past who knows how long, in which case he'll probably be fine, assuming he actually came out with a cancer cure or similar.>>98647137>sci-fi is all the rage these daysHouse Thig comes up with the best toys.>>98648666My experience tells me that it is common for the sleepers to be abused by mind control of the blood bond. Stopping the abuse tends to save them.
>>98649010I'll stick to the name I gave them. They're very fascinating creatures, or perhaps manifestations. I won't reject theories while I'm still learning about the world the technocratic writings hid, but I don't think they are mere phenomena. The ones that I've found most affinity with, the ones similar to moths and spiders, have behavior that I'm positive could only be displayed by sapient creatures. They're happier and more responsive in clean and organized environments, and they have an attraction to piano music. It's even easier to interface with them in the mech after a haircut.
>>98649078It could be House Dougal (Not a Hermetic house) given that fits and they can hide in places the technocracy has locked themselves out of, however I hesitate to claim that as anything beyond one of several possibilities at the moment.
>>98649078>>98649178There is no shame in not knowing. That earliest time of learning is, if you'll forgive the term, magical. Do keep notes on the entities, I would be delighted in adding such to the collections I help maintain.
>>98649010>What do you do?I'm the swiss army knife of the problem-solving variety. Before that? I did some blue-collar work as a teenager. After collage I managed to land an office job. Popped up on the union's radar thanks to my friend's relative. Recruited in 1988, joining the ranks of the Hollow Men. Combining my previous job with the new one was surprisingly easy. After a few years I requested a transfer, spent some time working with a couple PMCs and a few paramilitaries, honing my skills and gathering useful contacts. Got back, got a new office job and continued my usual work. Now? I pretty much have to fight to stay in the field. Funny how things turned out. >you do not work with the sick and bury the deadWell, I didn't work with the sick but at least you got one part of that right. >>98649017>House Thig comes up with the best toys.I'm sure they're very abominable. Luckily, the masses will be spared that form of torture. >My experience tells me that it is common for the sleepers to be abused by mind control of the blood bondMaybe if we're talking about blood-sucking parasites. He could be dealing with entities of alien origin. Those work a bit differently.
>>98649523>I'm sure they're very abominable.What faith.
Update on the digging. I've corroborated a report that points to about two dozen other abductions being tied to the same Greys of anomalous origin, the same as the 1Y-1D longer term abductions and confirmed presence at the thing in the USA. Small problem, when the inept team tried to pull one up for a conversation on the episode, they suffered (and I'm quoting directly from the black-suit in question that was corroborated through Sec-Cam footage) a 'Spontaneous Combustion' episode and afflicted the agent with what I will call; 'Advanced Hallucinogenic Schizophrenia.' Keeps seeing 'Pattern-Elves' not unlike certain things reported via MM consumption.Don't like that not one bit.
>>98651793>Pattern-ElvesAs in actual, fairy tale elves? You know, there used to be this guy in the NWO, swore that faries were real. I'm inclined to believe him.
>>98653663They have a few names. Pattern Elves, Machine Elves, LSD Gnomes...They're a known phenomena and while I wouldn't normally ascribe them any more import beyond a quirk or brain chemistry?I feel we can suspend our disbelief. Here anyway.
>>98654378It's not my field of expertise but I'm sure we can find a rational explanation for their existance. Any prefered abduction targets? Prefered area of operations? Time of day? Gather enough data and you might be able to predict the next time they strike. Getting in touch with the clockwork boys might be a good idea, Statisticians should be able to predict their next move.
>>98656744No patters whatsoever. 17 confirmed men, 18 confirmed women. Age range from 11 to 81. All over the United States, along with 2 cases in Mexico and 1 in Canada.What is interesting is the Androgynes or GAOs as we'll call them (Greys of Anomalous Origin) were active from 1969 to 1998 prior, and spent the past two decades more or less quiet, or else they went unnoticed. Which is a possible reality. While little Miss Make America a Scientology Space Empire went nuts some reports show a certain level of reverence for the GAOs. Which if they can induce hallucinogenic effects, that makes sense.
>>98657342Sounds like we're dealing with aliens that possess the ability to manipulate human perception of reality. They've been gone for around 2 decades and decided to come back. Perhaps you should look into recent events. Maybe you'll find a reason for their return. In the meantime, utilizing Nonlinear Prediction procedures might let us predict their next move.
>>98657342I was going to hold off given the whole...>Getting a lot of boss baby vibes from thisBut given the 1969 date, that is sufficient specificity I can tell you are very likely talking about the group that gave us steel, a subgroup of the group that gave us silver.
>>98659007>I can tell you are very likely talking about the group that gave us steel, a subgroup of the group that gave us silver.Could you be any more vague?
>>98659249see>>98649178Group of super naturals so thoroughly removed from the technocracy that I'm not sure how to describe it in terms they'd understand but I'll try my best.So you understand the stock market is essentially humans coming together and putting their faith in a company's story? And that's why you've got certain corporations with valuations removed from their actual balance sheets? Same principle applies when you remove money from the equation. So you've got the masses believing in a story that creates a thing.>>98647137> Doesn't matter, sci-fi is all the rage these days and it just so happens to align with the Timetable. What a coincidence...Dougal is what you get from belief in sci-fi.1969 lines up with the moon landing and everyone's reaction to the moon landing bringing them back.I've personally only encountered Dougal and one other group but we have records of thirteen total "groups"
>>98659443So we have a group of RDs using sci-fi and real events to try and inflitrate reality under a more consensus-friendly banner? Explains why the decided to look like the goofy aliens from old movies. Any known weaknesses or other things one can exploit?
>>98661406First off "RDs" have already used IRL and SYN-Induced materia to infiltrate the consensus and the union. Also of you haven't got a means to shoot your CO dead when he reveals he's got a zombie face or scales that is a (You) issue.Secondly I have doubts. While 1969 lines up with conventional anomalies of that kind line up with the broader wave of UFO-Mania, the understated nature of all this is odd. It feels independent. While these Andogynes are as estranged to Conventional grays as we are to them we are clearly missing something. No signs of conventional weaknesses, the reports where the abductees fought they claimed they couldn't even touch the Androgynes who swirled around them 'like water.' They displayed little of the cruelty or jubilee associated with FEYs. Regardless, I've filed the correct reports. Also as a warning we have Netboy activity in the area where this happened.Funny that. Feels like I've got another Mole somewhere in the network.
>>98662184>Also of you haven't got a means to shoot your CO dead when he reveals he's got a zombie face or scales that is a (You) issue.You're the one to talk. Remind me, which Convention has the most cases of people going Marauder / Nephandi? >No signs of conventional weaknesses, the reports where the abductees fought they claimed they couldn't even touch the Androgynes who swirled around them 'like water.'A high chance of them being incorporeal / possessing ways to rapidly shift their state of matter. Energy weapons perhaps? >Feels like I've got another Mole somewhere in the networkSounds like something Iteration X might want to know about, or the NWO.
>>98661406I imagine that you are likely to confuse the group I'm familiar with with one that may look similar to you given your whole "Those RDs all look the same to me" attitude.Besides that, they inhabit a section of umbra the technocrats are either unwilling or unable to access.
>>98662184>They displayed little of the cruelty or jubilee associated with FEYs.I'll bite, what acronym have you come up with for FEY?
>>98663061>I imagine that you are likely to confuse the group I'm familiar with with one that may look similar to you given your whole "Those RDs all look the same to me" attitude.Here's where you're wrong. I don't have to like them but I do pay attention to what they can do. Not knowing what you're fighting is a rookie mistake or bad intel. Your approach has to be tailored to your taget. You can't expect a lycanthrope to burst into flames as soon as a single ray of sunlight hits it or a vampire to be seriously wounded by silver. >Besides that, they inhabit a section of umbra the technocrats are either unwilling or unable to access.They can stay there as far as we're concerned, we have no plans of chasing them through different dimensions (unless the VEs want to go on another vanity project). Once they're on earth? That's when the gloves are off, especially if they're abducting random people.
>>98663066>Feyá Emmakhlaká YeshútHebrew my briother. >>98662822>You're the one to talk. Remind me, which Convention has the most cases of people going Marauder / Nephandi? I've got a WW2 diagram of shots through a strategic bomber hull I'll need you to fortify. Now onto your actual point, I doubt energy weapons. More likely they're of a fundamentally alien structure. Closer to the very noisy gas-cloud haunting the thread to be honest. And all papers are filled. We'll see what they do, but I don't have high hopes. We had to bail out the last Itix boy they sent. And NWO? Well. I gave up on the husk of the tower doing anything helpful for us over here a while back.
>>98663197>I gave up on the husk of the tower doing anything helpful for us over here a while back.Hey now, the Ivory Tower might be able to talk them to death. Don't underestimate the power of bureaucracy. That's the one thing superstitionists have no answear to.
