Iron Hands of the Iron Hands edition>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ruhttps://40k.gallery/>paint stuff:https://eavy-archive.com/https://armycrafter.com/https://paintpad.app/https://files.catbox.moe/82w72p.pdf>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th/11th Edition Ruleshttps://gofile.io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega.nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>Alternative rules:https://onepagerules.com/https://www.starbreach.com/homehttps://nolimitswargames.wordpress.com/>How to Make Wargames Terrain (2e 2003)https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Inferno! Magazine complete collection (1997-2004)https://archive.org/download/Inferno30/Inferno30_archive.torrent>Warhammer Monthly complete collection (1989-2004)https://archive.org/download/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary/WarhammerMonthly0502001BlackLibrary62pminutemenAbaddonblackLibrary_archive.torrent>Games Workshop/Citadel Miniatures painting guides (1989-2016)https://archive.org/download/games-workshop-painting-guides/games-workshop-painting-guides_archive.torrent>Current Collage ThemeDefeated foes/trophies>/40kg/'s dudeshttps://pastebin.com/8MwSq81B>Previous thread:>>98529980>Thread question:Do you like Orks?
i liek orks :D
So are the iron hands called ferrum manum in latin?
>TQMy Orks are my oldest army. Unfortunately that means they're also the worst painted.
>>98533183What's there to like about them?
>>98533203They are clearly ferryman types
Does anyone else here think it's ridiculous that armies as elite as Imperial Knights and Custodes and as horde as Orks and IG are in the same game? Doesn't this make list tailoring absolutely mandatory if you don't have a small local meta? My city's 40k Facebook group has 150ish people in it and it's always a shit show trying to organize casual games because everyone wants to tailor for their opponents.
Why do they not put armor on over the bionics
>>98533203no, that's the primarch
>>98533224How would you know they had bionics if they were covered up?Also religious nonsense or something.
OHHHHHHHHHH MY HELLIONS ARE IN THE MAIL COMING TODAYAFTER GETTING MAELSTROM FOR FREE I NOW HAVE ALL THE DARK ELDAR that weren't squatted EXCEPT THE VOIDRAVEN, SCOURGES AND HAEMONCULUS and named characters but I don't really like named characters unless it's Vect because he has a huge vehicle.
>>98533225HIS NAME IS IRON HANDS OF THE IRON HANDS AND HE HAS IRON HANDS
>Broke off and lost a bit of iron halo on my captain while paintingAAAAAAAAAA
>>98533223>list tailoringpeak subhuman behavior, absolutely disgusting
>>98533223Yes and yes. Knights, Custodes and Grey Knights should be Imperial Agents, not their own army.
>>98533224Because their cybernetics need to be visually conveyed in the miniature design. And marines look cooler with hydraulic legs and shit.
>>98533245Are you fucking retarded? If you don't tailor against lists like Knights, Greentide or IG Tank spam you just automatically lose especially if you draw the wrong secondary objectives on the 1st and 2nd turns.
>>98533245>Not adjusting your list to fight knights or 300 Boys. Ok have fun losing before models are on the table
>>98533203I know the old legions had names in high gothic. Like the dark angels were named angelis tenebraium. But I don't think most of them have had their high gothic names given.They definitely have a name in lingua technis, i.e. binary code.
>>98533245>>98533275Yeah to be fair if you're actually fielding an army that's spamming one thing to the extreme, you're in no place to get pissy at your opponent for wanting to tweak their list a bit to meet you, you'd look particularly absurd DEMANDING they use a general tournament list
>>98533238Now you have to give him battle scarring, get a little hot needle and give him bullet holes on his armour and a scar on his face where the filthy blueberries and other such xenos woundedh im.
>>98533223They should be forced to draw lots.
>>98533232Good luck anon. Get the time the package of miniatures arrives so it doesn’t get porch pirated.>inb4 paranoiaBetter safe than sorry.
>>98533223Nah, that variety is what makes 40k so cool. There's no need to tailor if you take a TAC list and adapt your gameplan to deal with those extremes.
>>98533304>picI doubt this happened but it's kino.>I called a judge and he simply told them "The nails are biting"
BIGBOUNCYBANSHEEBUTTS
>>98533304lol *someone* has autism here>My opponent is...BEHAVING ECCENTRICALLY? JUUUDGE, JUUUDGE make him stop, make him act normal!
>>98533304i played against a thousand sons player once who mutated my army by spraying them with warpfire (acetone) while i was in the bathroomwhen the judge tried to disqualify him he pulled a lever and a trapdoor opened underneath him, we haven't seen him since but when the LGS is quiet you can still hear him screamingworst day of my life
>>98533224In lore: Power Armor in 40k needs to plug into the body at multiple points to work properly and bionics interfere with that also IHs are like the machine cult and view robot limbs as inherently superior to flesh and armor.In reality: it looks cool,
>>98533224The total lack of focus on chapters besides the gays, furries and racists annoys me because iron hands deploying something like Helfathers that are just AI with Iron Hands personalities in robot bodies would be cool as fuck>TECH HERESYYeah but it;s cool
>>98533315Just because one person decides to bring a TAC list doesn't mean their opponents will. Sure you could just turn down the game but if you've already had to spend a week finding an opponent online and negotiating a time and place to play the game just walking away from it make the entire week's effort a waste of time. Not everyone who plays has a close-knit group of friends who are all into the game.When I was in my 20s I had a small group of 7 people who met every Sunday afternoon in a guys basement and played. It was easy to have casual matches in this environment. Fast forward to my 30s and most of those guys are married and don't play anymore and I have to find games on the local Facebook group. Some of the games I've found like that have been fine but I have several stories worthy of a greentext thread.
>>98533325Why do Iron Hands even bother with the marine augmentations if they wanna replace it all with bionics? Why not turn their neophytes into thallax or myrmidons and skip the middle man?
>>98533304unspeakably based
>>98533018>people care more for Krieg>Krieg players>peopleI don't consider "those" to be people.Anyone I've ever met who plays Krieg or is "into the aesthetic" is either a troon or a stereotypical r*ddit user who just regurgitates shovel memes>>98533195>they want to put chicks in space marines and kriegIt's because they're popular according to the marketing department, so obviously women will buy these models if they are represented in them so they can spend less on new product lines.All market research since like 2014 in every industry has been IdPol nonsense that both says that:>uninvested customer groups (everyone but white men in this context) only buy products that these groups see themselves in>but also just assumes that the current customer base will just keep buying no matter what (despite point 1 implying the opposite)
>>98533304I want this to be real
I fomo'dThe item page says he's sold 18 today
>>98533335Because being a superhuman to start with means you can survive more extreme bionics
I'm a newfag, what faction should I play to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and hear the lamentations of their women?
>>98533304Fake as shit but I wish it was real
Ork vehicles be like>Shokkjump dragsta>stompa>shartmart fridgerator>scrapheap junkshoota>grot disposal unit>pile o'choppas>da big wun>whirlygig blastscorcha
>>98533356Probably world eaters from what youre describingMaybe orkz?
>>98533356>CRUSHorks>DRIVENworld eaters>lamentationsDark eldar raiders>women hatersBlack templars, krieg
>>98533356Warriors of Chaos is a good start if you want to pay the money. Otherwise depending on the game you have, Greenskins, Dark Elves or Khorne
>>98533304It is bullshit but i choose to believe its real
>>98533362Ork units be like>Slobz>Gunna Guttas>Squigga Niggas>Greg>Wortzsnotz Toofhurter>Boyz>Boyz with Snekk Sluggas>Boyz with Slugga Snekks>Albert Morkstein
>>98533362Don't fucking make fun of my NounVerb VerbCar
why so cheap
>>98533356White Scars, World Eaters, Orks, or Deldar.
Was this real? I want to know if I should have kicked myselfhttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/358918521089
>>98533382kek
>>98533362>da big wunI'd buy it.
>>98533362It's extra daft when these are some kind of official designation that apparently even Imperials use>Brother Protus, concentrate suppressive fire on those Bigtoof Megadakka Blastboyz, I will lead the assault on the Killchoppa BigZzzap Gitsmasherz
I don't want devastators to go, lads. Especially in the first edition since 7th where melta drop pods deepstrike within melta range.
>>98533362>shartmart fridgeratorThis is actually the new Death Guard Dreadnought.
>>98533402>Brother Protus
>>98533362>pile o'choppas
>>98533407>can easily proxy plasma and missile devastators as hellblasters and desolation (fucking retarded names)>bolter and melta are now fucking gravisI hate this timeline.
>>98533402The usage of "foreign" names is a gameplay contrivanceIt'd be confusing if every ork unit had a different name in the opponents' list, same goes for every vehicleIf every Ork player had to sort through>'umie car>'umie trukk>'umie can wiv a gun>'umie can wiv a big gun (the glowy one)>'umie can wiv a big gun (the spinny one)>'umie can wiv a BIG gun>da big 'umie can wiv LOTSA GUNSinstead of >Hippogriff>Centaur>Chimera>Leman Russ Executioner>Leman Russ Punisher>Basilisk>BanebladeIt'd be a nightmare of translating names between codices.It would be nice if they called them something different in-universe though, but then you end up with 80iq mongs not knowing what they're talking about without a visual aid or translator's note.
>>98533402In the books I've read they don't really use any of the ork names outside of gargant.
>>98533426
>>98533407I think they'll eventually release primaris devastators because the desolation squad was a fiasco
>>98533450buenos dias, mandy
>>98533450that's a man
>>98533431>Advocates modeling for advantage
>>98533459What Low Gothic dialect is that?*blam*>>98533464*blam*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWRJIAYhIccYeah I'm waiting for the Ork one of these to hear this guy tell us about Meganobz in his serious British tone
>>98533484The only advantage is that devastators look a million times better.
>everything on the orks page is out of stock>everything in the orks section at my LGS and GW stores are in stockFomo? Scalping? Delisting for the refresh?
>>98533388You forgot Wazdikky Wortstein
>>98533431Still no equivalent to lascannons.
>>98533506The snipers can have las-cannons
>>98533513That's not a real equivalent.
>>98533506Pic related are lascannons in all but name
>>98533520Names are important. Also snipers isn't really the fantasy of an anti tank heavy weapon squad.
>>98533450unf>>98533464even better
Way I see it there's three ways for the Warbuggy datasheet to pan out:>Each of the 4 buggies get their attack profiles locked into a "swap X, Y, and Z for A, B, and C" type of arrangement, basically just recreating the old profiles but without any unique datasheet abilities like the Dragsta teleport or various -1 to hit effects and completely identical chassis stats>All 4 buggies are locked into the most hideously genericized, impossible to validate visually, "warbuggy weapons and ram" attack profiles aimed at hitting a useless middle ground that nobody would actually want to field>Or we get the first one except it actually lets you mix and match whatever you want instead of being locked into the specific set of equipment the original kit had, and also since I'm fantasizing the impossible they include the datasheet abilities like the teleport as wargear to be freely added as you please. This has absolutely no chance of happening, so me saying there were three ways this could go was a lie.
>>98533426>complete crashout unpromptedYou're probably the guy that made the shitty wojack edit a few threads ago, aren't you?
>>98533342Shovel memes are still going? I thought gw killed the meme when referencing it around when plastic Krieg kill team was announced.How bad were these Krieg players case by case and traits?Are TTS quotes still a meme? Is Duncan Rhodes as a meme still enduring?
>>98533526Don't see why, makes sense people picking off tanks with precision rifles would want to be stealthy about itAnd the devastator lascannons already were big sniper rifles
>>98533533No.
>>98533458I had hope, then they showed erradicators with heavy bolters and intercessors that are still intercessors instead of tacticals and my hope vanished.
>>98533332>stories worthy of greentextPlease tell the horror 40k stories. I ask.
>>98533304Is this really a post or a satirical edited screenshot? What other funny plebbit warhammer 40k posts are there like that?
>>98533407I'm gonna get a box off of Amazon and just enjoy them for the next 3 years until they either get wiped in 12th or a Primais kit I can proxy them for releases
>>98533426Damn I thought the mere mention of firstborn was enough to piss off anons.Now it seems even hinting at firstborn marines pisses off anons to an unreasonable degree.Was it the PAK trolling’s after effects? Sunk cost fallacy? Autism is too broad for something as specific as this.
>>98533559>until they either get wiped in 12thI doubt they will even be in the 11th edition codex in a month.
>>98533332>Some of the games I've found like that have been fine but I have several stories worthy of a greentext thread.Care to share?
Odd question about 40k models.What model went from release to squatting the fastest?Just curious.
>>98533464nu uh
>>98533564They'll go to Legends first, which is fine. I'm not a tourneyfag and if I was, I wouldn't play Marines
>>98533577Did a firstborn player table you THAT hard?
>>98533488How long did it take for old good new bad to have people say centurions are cool?Just trying to find a rough estimate for how long it will take for those models to be said to be good.I get that 40k is goofy. There’s always a limit though.
>>98533518why not
>>98533538The last time I went to an LGS to play/interact with many 40k players I moved since then and there aren't any near me now was like 9 months ago, so take this with a grain of saltGenuinely heard a guy who brought in his Krieg army, upon finding out he was going to be playing against an Ork army, verbatim say:>"Orks? -grabs shovel-"and then start laughing; no one else thought it was funny. He played fine and wasn't an ass, just had the usual stereotypical reddit mannerisms and is probably autistic.The troons were just the usual "doesn't pass and has a persecution complex about it," I never personally interacted with any of them, I would just overhear them talking about "their Kriegers." There were 3 troons (that I knew of) that went to that LGS, 2 mtf 1 ftm. The mtfs both had at least a 1k point Krieg army, the ftm had DEldar and made sure she never used female heads. I nearly played a match against one of the mtfs, but he refused to play against my SoB for some reason.>TTSHaven't heard one in years.>Duncan RhodesI still make jokes with the "two thin coats" line, so yes, even if they aren't funny.
>>98533592Most people still think centurions look retarded but they are goofy so some are bound to like them. Generally they are inoffensive and easy to ignore. Can't say the same about primaris.
>>98533592NTA but I love firstborn. Centurions are still fucking stupid
>>98533304>>98533549This is a very fake made-up story made by an Instagram 40k meme account going by the same name as the guy in the story. Used to follow the guy due to some painting competitions he did and noticed he would frequently post stories on reddit and even here obviously written by himself (obvious due to the subject of the stories always involving world eaters, pull-ups, or shadow boxing, as well as the writing style) so that he could post screenshots of them on his Instagram account. Numerous times I remember seeing some fake world eaters greentexts written here and then within the next few days I'd see it on his account.Very gay and yes I know I'm also gay for having followed him.Gitgud I know you're here, go fuck yourself you retarded unfunny faggot.
>>98533593Completely different vibe. A sniper doesn't scream heavy weapon gunner.
>>98533624But they are gunners...with heavy weapons...
>52 attacks, all sustained 1 and lethal, +1 to wound, and with full rerolls to hit and to wound>hops out of a land raider and assaults
>>98533611>narcissist creates fake content for his 40k instagramThat just makes it funnier.
>>98533570Hard to say since there’s been 40K & AoS models released straight into legends from the start.
>>98533653>5 damage done
>>98533362The last thread was gold for nounverb verbnoun buggies names. As a speed freak I love it
>>98533570Comemorative shit doesn't even see play a lot of the time
>>98533570probably one of the many redundant primaris kits that nobody bought.
I've been having some unwholesome thoughts about Executioner Phillius. I wish I was polishing her chassis while she called me her primate slave.Thought you might wanna know.
>>98533671well some of the last ones you have to rebase since they're too big
>>98533605>refused to play against my SoB for some reason.What are your guesses as to why the player avoided your 40k battle sisters.Granted I think you dodged a bullet. They are unavoidable and conditioned to overreact and can ruin a business reputation even if the business did nothing wrong so it is best to avoid or minimize interaction with them if you can when looking for new players to game elsewhere.
>>98533356Space Wolves
>>98533661>>98533671>>98533711Guess I’ll move the goalpost and ask: what warhammer 40k model moved from release to legends the fastest?Excluding commemorative models of course. Those feel like special cases.
>>98533224Because it’s a miniature-driven game
>>98533335Every time I think a 40k model actually looks cool it ends up being from 30k.
>>98533752My guesses? Pick one>rapid onset mental episode (most likely)>insecurity comparing himself to my Sisters>thinking I brought my Sisters instead of my Guard or CSM as a targeted attack against him (combined with #2)>he thought I was a megachud or somethingI am, but this is the least likely reason. I don't talk about my opinions on things to anyone; I drive a car with no stickers, I never wear political clothing. The only "political" thing about me overtly is that my other hobbies involve firearms, but the individual in question shouldn't have been aware of that.I didn't "avoid" any of them per se, but I didn't seek them out and we never crossed paths because of it; cliques form everywhere, even in LGS casual game night attendees. I was usually only there to buy models/paints or play with a few friends that I knew from other places (school, clubs, work, etc). I only signed up to a tourney hosted there once, which is when the "he refused to play against me" event happened.
>>98533764Primaris Company Champion maybe? I think it had a short shelf life.
>>98533805
>>98533828kill yourself, mutant
I've made modest progress on my collage project. I've been basically discovering the style as I paint it. I also freehanded his warband's emblem on without much difficulty. I think this is the first time I've freehanded an emblem to my knowledge, and I'm comfortable in saying it's flat-out superior to shitty decals so long as you have the faintest idea of what you're doing.
>>98533838Could making anti space wolf threads draw the spacewolf autist out of here?It will probably draw out the wannabe janny autist who demands 40k models posted in every warhammer 40k thread that isn’t a general too but it is more about having the mutant leave us alone.
>total cost of Kill Team Typhon models+terrain>259 bucks170 dollars+5 bucks if it was price hiked to now>total cost of Kill Team Exodite models (projected)>214 bucks165 dollarsGW you absolute cuntsShould be no more than 145
>>98533388Would buy
>>98533570Primaris Rhino
>>98533865stop ban evading you autistic fuck
With the exception of shitting contrast sloppa on your entire model, are acrylic washes the worst way to shade a model? It feels like it. Volume sketching, recess shades with contrast, oil pinwashes, and enamel/oil washes all look and feel better without being as much of a pain.>>98533847No. Shitposters are addicted to being insulted in their home general.
>>98533805very nice
https://youtu.be/CIGHCoVzqtk
>>98533915Gen one of them mowing down space yiffs
I don't get em
>>98533915this looks like dogshit why'd you even post iti'd rather watch the cutscenes in fire warrior
>>98533764maybe the outrider chaplain? I think that techmarine in a turret got canned pretty fast too.
>>98533921I have this
>>98533940>awoo with me b-BOOM
>>98533935same I want to field cute girls not some retards that flail about
>>98533937Just testing to see what was possible with the image reference node of a new local gen ai model. The answer is a lot.
For some reason someone has bought multiple KT exodite boxes but only used the waystalker
>>98533940based
>>98533624It needs to be in tactifficus Mark XXX armor or it doesn't count!
>>98533935Arco-Flagellants are a bullet sponge (that also have Feel no Pain 5) so your actually good units can get closer and use their weapons to kill the enemy, but they're also good melee infantry on their own (against anything still below t5).Once they die you get a miracle die so you can then put Morvenn down the middle and punch the enemy tank/monster until it dies.They're the exact same as Repentia, but Flagellants are more defensive and Repentia are more offensive.If you want "Sisters" melee units, Celestian Sacresancts with a Hospitaller are very good. They can fit in an Immolator to rush to an objective and then hold it down with the Immolator doing the damage and the Hospitaller keeping the Sacresancts alive. Put Through Suffering, Strength on the Hospitaller. I personally run a group of Sacresancts to hold down secondary objectives while Morvenn fights on the center.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98533894Acrylic washes are just the nontoxic working method to my knowledge.Saw a vid of speedpaint medium mixed with armypainter acrylic wash and it shaded quite well while not darkening the model too much. But of course there is also a bit of “skill” needed to move the wash around and being able to notice pooling quickly.I don’t have those skills yet.>>98533915>>98533940Can you gen a model to look like those imperial armour model dioramas that look like screenshots of artifact ridden combat footage?I want to try and make those in gimp or krita. Never found working tutorials for anything but a muzzle flash tutorial that is old so probably doesn’t work.Maybe chatgpt can gen working instructions to make those 40k images.
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98534015I like these kinds of dark eldar lady pics.I like female abs on attractive adult warrior women.Is it canon that one of the things that finally make dark eldar think “that’s too far” is having sex with humans? I’m talking dark eldar male on human female or dark eldar female on human male?>speaking of black library and lore Would probably be used quickly if gw starts a warhammer romance line in black library.Did warhammer horror and crime touch on the real grimdark stuff and even more mature things? I’m just curious if we had a “specialist games situation” where the spin-offs turned out to be better than the main line but for black library books.
I collect World Eaters, but I also want to get one Imperial army and one Xenos army, for flavour reasons. What should I get?
>>98533935They belong in admech, SoB players don't appreciate what they have.
>>98533894How are oil and enamel washes less of a pain than a simple acrylic wash?
>>98534079>flavoras a rival? a cqc marine chapter for imperium, and orks because they love a good fight.
>>98534061I'm sure you could do better style, i wasn't really focused. If i make a new video I'll think about the style for it.
>>98534007I'm playing Penitent Host and going 20 Sacrosancts + Hospitaller in Rhinos (and a Canoness with Divine Penitence in one squad for the stratagems), Arcos just feel kinda expensive for what they are at 140pts and I'm seeing people run them with a Priest + Verses and I just can't really work out how they are getting the 205 points of value out of it compared to just shoving another Sacrosanct or Repentia squad in and flinging them across the board turn 1.
>>98534100I just mean I like having variety in looks and playstyles, I was thinking Guard for big ass shooty tanks and GSCs for the unending horde feel
Why are so many SM players seemingly salivating at the thought of squatting the last firstborn marine units? While it seems likely they will be squatted when the codex drops I don't want that to happen.
>>98534033He looks like he'll bear the true word of Chaos.
>>98534095I'm just particularly hateful of the coffeestaining of acrylic washes. In contrast I find that oil washes just automatically go where you like them to after you dab off the excess, in addition to looking nice and rich. The only real issue I have with them is the amount of waiting involved in it.
>>98534110It's one autistic tranny that's become addicted to having a specific argument.
>>98534110Personally I'm waiting for the time when 3rd-7th marines are seen as cool as retro as RT/2e ones are today.I've been slowly building a Crimson Fists force with all the characters (Pedro, Cortez) and unique old stuff no longer playable (like Thunderfire cannons)
>>98534110Because primarisfags can't fathom someone liking marines before primaris existed as it proves their very existance is unnecessary and detrimental to the faction.
>>98534110because, both existing prevents us from never mentioning primaris again.
>>98534110>the same box with primaris would be $180 todaycrazy
>>98534161What good is not mentioning primaris if the army is missing every classic unit except terminators and scouts and isn't allowed to carry actual boltguns?
>>98534168I dont give a shit if you have tactical marines or not. I want your faction to aesthetically pleasing.
>>98534083>what they haveWe have 33 data sheets, 34 unique models. The discrepancy is Amalia Novena, who is just a Sister Superior alt model with no unique sheet.We have 31 actual "datasheet" models to buy. Sisters can be built into Dominions, Seraphim into Zephyrim Penitent Engines into Mortifiers, and there's 2 different priest models depending on what weapon you want to use.We have very little, let us have this>>98534107I have very little experience running PH (I usually use Hallowed Martyrs to prop up Morvenn more), but this is my understanding of it:Sisters are designed as a "unit trading" army, you're supposed to take some units to intentionally lose them in the process (while taking some enemy units down with them) of gaining map control to power up your stronger units with miracle dice to then actually defeat your enemy. That's where Penitent Engines/Mortifiers/Flagellants/Repentia fall.Yes it sucks for you mentally that you're intentionally building and painting all these models to then have their entire purpose be to die and be taken off the table. That's just how it is right now, guardsmen are largely the same way.
>>98534173Then we can't have that while primaris exist, doesn't matter if they are called primaris or not.
>>98534077Why does everyone always want romance stories of Dark Eldar but just cheesecake of Tau? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
>>98534142Every now and then I see stuff like selling 50 old tactical marines for 30 euros somewhere. Maybe I should buy them strip them and wait for them to become "retro"
>>98534121So you can't dab off the excess for acrylics but for oils that's acceptable?
Unitwise I just don't get how people can prefer intercessors to tacticals. Tacticals do the same thing but get fun weapons on top, why would you prefer the boring version? And even if you do, you can just take a tactical squad with nothing but boltguns.
Imperial Fist primaris intercessors
>>98534213If you dab acrylycs it leaves a stain, if you dab oils it looks clean.
>>98534222Stop ban evading.
>>98534216Personally I prefer the bigger beefier bolters
>>98534198I want T'au romance, I just also want the erotic art but only one of those two things is being madeI can't speak on the Deldar issue
>>98534198That’s a genuinely good question.I can only guess and maybe it is because tau fans seem to have higher numbers of “fans” who just like the tau for the cheesecake aylmao fanart. It is probably higher than dark eldar fans who actually like the dark eldar for what they are in aesthetics and lore and then the “I can fix him/her” thing kicks in. I just remembered an anon saying a dark eldar girl allegedly bangs a human male while he is being medically treated and is very casual about it but it could be made up by anon and it will remain so unless book and page number and quotes are made.I can’t prove this and my source is my ass crust but I just know that a dark eldar female x human male or de male x human female story has already been proposed and approved but isn’t written yet. It is being kept for when gw wants to gain a LOT of publicity. They’ll shill it hard like that female commissar book got then it got forgotten with a resin BL model as the ornament on it’s gravestone.
>>98534232>unitwise
Just found out about an another GW price increase incoming. (I know it's couple days old news at this point)How long does GW think this is sustainable. Especially how will kids ever be able to afford this since even most single characters are like 30 euros. Back in the day a kid would have just bought one of the 8 euro easy to build kits. Now there's no "pocket money" money kits anymore outside buying single issue combat patrol magazines.
>>98534216Tactical marines are intentionally bad and overcosted and Intercessor's ability is obscenely strong for their cost
Anon who was working on that pair of 1k lists to build out the armageddon box here I realised that I made a mistake and undervalued some of the Space marine stuff. I now have 3 options I'm looking at for the list. All 3 have the armageddon minis less librarian, plus scouts.The options are:Crusader Squad + 2x assault intercessorsStorm speeder + eradicator + sword brethrenStorm speeder + assault intercessor with jump pack + sword brethrenThe first option leaves me with two very close range infantry armies. Options 2 &3 make me think I need to replace the Breaka Boyz as they probably won't be able to catch the speeders.It also looks like I'll need to replace the burna boyz with flash gitz
>>98534105That’s fine.It is a style I’ll like and probably never stop even if it becomes a meme and reduced and overused like how steampunk became just cogs glued on something brown or beige with brass.Or how blanchitsu and grimdark became just oils and enamels or lots of dark washes without conversions. Not even headswaps. And too many times without the weathering too.
>>98534222Is this really what we're doing now? Making sloppa for our retarded internet arguments? You could've worked on a SW vs DE mini and presented it as a haha funny and that could've got you some brownie points, this is just pathetic
>>98534180once all firstborn are gone. The faction will look much better.
>>98534240I think those combat patrol magazines are intended to be the pocket money stuff.Everything is going up in this hobby and beyond.GW and warhammer prices are really just the biggest example of this.My ass is the source but maybe gw is trying to make a lot of money and as much as it can to survive a hypothetical economic crash or for when 3d printers become nontoxic like acrylics and idiot proof and usable as smart phones.Just a theory I found in the toilet before I flushed.
>>98534174I think I'm just hung up on the high point cost which I guess has to be because >70 attacks it's just normally my Dominions or BSS actually manage to do something before becoming miracle dice and these guys have eaten shit every time, yet I always see them on lists.
>>98534261I notice you only had a problem when I did it, you're such a nofun scumbag.
>>98534222it's funny how you can still tell it's him because he just mashes keys for his filenames after it was pointed out how he always has itoddler filenames
>>98534216I think I like the look of Intercessors more than Tactials, but I really, REALLY wish primaris were just a resculpt and not "We amd SUPER space marines".
>>98534270No? If you hadn't noticed, slop always gets negative posts and I'm usually one of them. I've just woken up for the day and quickly scrolled the thread, please point out where the other sloppa is that didn't get any backlash
>>98534273the funniest part about his "mashing" is that he only does 3 or 4 numbers so it's still really easy to spot lmao
>>98534240Like most people who joined this hobby around the same time as me (7th edition) did so by buying one of the cheap easy to build sets. And then expanded on those later on. It was just easy to have a cheap low investment kit to start out. Now the first investment is much higher nowadays and I'm sure it's turning some people away from the hobby.
Never been cheaper to get into orksTyranids still have a surplus and cheapness for a lot of models too.And I guess space marines also, throw in Dawn of War Onslaught and it's never been cheaper to build these three armies (or build the space marines into codex supplement armies if you also get their combat patrol)Chaos is not as good but there's a lot of battleforces if you can snag one when someone is selling it below market value.Drukhari can also be quite cheap. The other armies and sub-armies are expensive and gay though.
>>98534266Currently yeah, but conceptwise intercessors are just a more limited version of tacticals.
>>98534222
>>98534286I mean something like the new introductory set is a very good intro. even has little cardboard terrain stuff and a mat. All under a hundred.
Wait why did they only remove my AIslop and not the others?
>>98534286I started with those too. It was nice to have a throwaway cheap starter to try painting for the first time.
>>98534303ya intercessors do suck. But not a big enough reason to keep whirlwinds around.
>>98534310What others?
>>98534286Bro, I havent painted minis for over a decade. Just ordered black templars combat patrol and whole new paints and everything, I'm excited, but I feel bad for anyone young who want to get into this hobby. Shit is expensive, even when you have money to sink in it.
>>98534281Primaris lovers can't read and only think about looks it seems.
>>98534286I started with the pushfit cadians.I kind of miss them. I need to varnish my first one and put him on display.If I varnish him he’ll be alright right?I didn’t prime and just went to painting that’s the thing.
>>98534310ban evasion
Which chapter has the biggest cocks
>>98534201I've still got all my rubbishly painted tacts and devastators from so long ago they're on 25mms. I always wonder if I should can them or refurbish them
>>98534299It’s just a shame orks are just about the least interesting xenos right after nids. I would have been hype if drukhari were in there with new flesh monsters and sexy dark elves and cool gangsters and maybe a range that isn’t complete buffoonery. But nope. We got quite possibly the most underwhelming refresh to date.
>>98534331Oh okay thank you.
>>98534317So that marines can have a single unit of artillery? Why remove it?
>>98534299>Drukhari can also be quite cheap.I don't know that that will really be the case once all their combo boxes dry up though. And all their units are going to double in price once they get new plastic. They are only cheap because they are ancient. Look at the price of fucking mandrakes or their newer characters for example.
>>98534344marines don't need artillery, it should be exclusive to guardin fact, no faction other than guard should have artillery
>>98534330If it's just a display he'll be fine
>>98534232I never liked the bolt rifles on being the default boltguns.Should have been the “bolt carbines” as one thing about boltguns was their beefy but “compact by space marine standards” so they could be flexible generalist weapons usable even in close quarters and areas that would confine a space marine and could be easily wielded one handed even if not as easily as a bolt pistol.I do like the Cawl cylinder greeble design. Has any lore been made about them like them being a house of special mechanisms or machine spirit data? Or a “core component” to smash so the weapon can’t be reused by enemies?
>>98534309That is still 77 bucks or 61.50€. That is a large barrier to entry for anyone let alone someone with not as much money. Combine the fact that those sets are meant to be shared between two people now you add the difficulty of having to find an another player who is interested in the hobby to get the other half.Plus also arguments about who gets the terrain and the books.
>>98534240The target audience isn't kids anymore, it's manchildren who have no children of their own (who therefore have an absurd amount of expendable income on-hand at all times) and will pay any price for self-serving enjoyment in toys and other tchotchkes.>>9853426870 S8 attacks is no slouch, you can rush a Rhino and then dump this deathball of 10 with a Priest onto whatever enemy you choose and it (probably) dies by sheer amount of dice on the upper end of the bell curve. Dicespam IS the meta.They are expensive though, Sisters in general are. I could go on and on about point costs of units comparing Sisters to SM and Guard. GW seems to think each Sister is 75-80% as good as an Intercessor, but then forgot that each Sister is still just a guardsman (t3w1) on the defensive and doesn't adjust for that fact.
>>98534110D:< armor marks are a tacticool star wars memberberries. Their existence detracts from gothic feel of the Imperium and knightly order aspect of marines
>>98534358After a varnish or no varnish?I’m not sure if an airbrushed varnish can prevent the paint on bare plastic from flaking off.
>>98534336GW left the Deldar out of it because they can't carry a box due to lack of interest or something. They will get a big Covens+gangs+Kabalites refresh like how Kroot and Vespids got refreshed in 10th edition. Iron Warriors will get a big Perturabo release+a new vindicator tank+something like "Veteran Legionaries" that have those 30k shields but chaos bits and have Iron Warriors on the box but can be used in all Chaos boxes. Lorgar and Dorn will be teased. Space wolves will get more stuff. Legion of the Damned and Praetorians will get a kill team.12th will be an Ultramarines vs. Word Bearers edition box, Tau stuff will get a big refresh, Exodites will get a full 'exodite army' release with big dinos+Steel Legion. Catachans will be squatted. Zoats will get a kill team.
>>98534336It must be unfortunate to live your life with such shit taste.
>>98534349Same thing is going to happen to my beloved Grey Knights as well when one day that refresh does come. Well I'm set with them but still it's going to be a sad day for me.
>>98534376nta but not saying Orks don't look cool and have a vibe but they are rather one dimensional and flat in terms of purpose and direction in the setting.
>>98534349LUCKILY I got a kill team nightmare box for only 120 dollars back in 2024, what a steal! Terrain, two TEN MAN/ELF teams instead of a 5 man team vs. a 7 man team with 10 npos no one wanted or whatever with no terrain and costing 170 bucks or whatever hte fuck.Fuck gw.
>>98534286The model of the month buisness shows they could have single model sprues easily so they could make boxes like this again with a couple proper multi part infantry and they just don't.
>>98534373Yeah give it a varnish, it might flake after a long time but it'll be fine for a while. Rubbing, bumping minis in transport and play is far more likely to chip an unprimed paint job than just sitting on a shelf
>>98534374>Kabalites refresh
>>98534254No one?
>>98534367thats where it starts today. It includes everything for 2 people to play a test game including paint. Its still overall a cheap hobby.
>>98534376He's right thoughbeit? Orks are very straightforward, one-note, and the most boring xenos for it.
>>98534367It's not just the kits either it's the kit, the snipper, the glue, and if you want to do it properly the knife.
>need a GSC magus>look on ebayshould I buy a crappy painted model to save? or just one thats sprayedI feel like its better to breathe new life into somethingyes I have the capability to strip models
Holy shit you guys the sky is falling, I managed to actually find some free time and slapped some paint on a model. Took me 3 hours and I feel slow and rusty as shit but damn it feels good.
>>98534371
>>98534384I just want it for display. Using a chessex dice box and some sticky tack to hold it down.I’m still kicking myself for not priming the first model.Oddly enough why did GW discontinue the imperial primer brush on primer? You’d think they would be selling that because bongland supposedly has bad weather all the time so no priming.
>>98534397Nah anon the end times aren’t upon us. They will be when I stop procrastinating on painting my warhammer 40k models when I have free time. The question will then be what kind of apocalypse from meteor to nuclear war to flooding to zombie apocalypse to Chris Chan’s dimensional merge.
>>98534409I get the primaris helmet hate now.I understand why mk7 looks better now. All the Darth Vader labeling won’t change that now. I get it now.
>>98534383The current single model sprues are $40-$50, for ONE model, with one pose. In GW terms that'd be $50-60 for 3 dudes, which puts those 3 guys in the same price range as buying 10 guardsmen or eldar guardians at their current price.For the "3 dudes" boxes to come back at a reasonable price for children to afford with "pocket money," either EVERYTHING ELSE has to go up in price, or the single models like Commissars/Farseers/etc. need to be like $10.
>>98534374kabalites is how unironically you make them fail the refresh given that HoTA can substitute them
>>98534388
>>98533940bro swolves btfo forever....
>>98534395do you mean these guys
>>98534458no because i'm not from the US
>>98534452The Eternally Raped
>>98534468The mkX backpack looks so much better without the tumours on top of the vents wtf.
>>98534443What will actually happen is1) vect is underwhelming2) vect+dais costs like 180 bucks3) vect will have random lizardman slaves instead of hawt chicks and this thread and twitter and loretubers will scream about Wokehammer ruining their slave titties and the release will be weeks of unbearable bullshitposting.
>>98534463nah bro the hh fragged that 'nought fr
>>98534463yeah, the dreadnought would have been destroyed at way longer range, and it would have a drilled assvent with a buttplug
>>98534452>>98534463Do real people still add trailing dots like “…” after the end of text?Outside of writing dialogue for fictional characters of course. I bet plenty of black library authors do this for their warhammer 40k books. It will never stop being a sign of being angry to me outside very few exceptions like fictional character dialogue.Especially when the entire post message is just “…” it never conveyed being cool. It always showed you are mad.
>>98534409terminators are 'member stormtroopers?mk5, 7, 8 are 'memeber darth vader?naught but a blight to purgedmk10 and mk4 are a proper bascinet for proper Space Knights
>>98534463You're right, the hammerhead would just btfo the dread from a mile away, not get up close like that. Either way railgun > dreadnought
>>98534489Only people with extremely poor social skills do it in my experience.
>>98534495This reminds me of the boss baby vibes meme. This is like seeing power armor from any other sci-fi ip and instantly getting space marine vibes from it.
>>98534508>You're samefaggingI'm not, but I'm not surprised you would think that.
>>98534495trying way too hard
>>98534475people will just not put them on and repurpose the bodies just like the playerbase have been doing for a long time. But it's a hard sell to tell someone to buy their 300th kabalite/wych regardless of mentally ill yapping about wokehammer
>>98534489What sort of zoomer take is this? I don't get why y'all cringe at "..."...
>>98534509mk5, 7, 8 and Phobos (armor mark designed to pander to fans of D:<) are a tacticool garbage with a dose of star wars pandering. CancerOther armor marks are based on actual knights so they fit the setting and gothic Imperiumsimple as
>>98534508>we
>>98534508you're not one of us no matter how long you pretend to be
>>98534529>you
>>98534235>dark eldar girl allegedly bangs a human male while he is being medically treatedGraham Macneil's Nightbringer or whatever it may be called. A captured governor is conscious while a haemonculus uses a bug to dissolve and then resculpt all of his innards. This makes his captor, a female deldar, really horny because of how terrified he is.
>>98534552work into running this general to the ground lmao
>>98534528>mk5Nah, mk5 is still respectable, I like how it exists as a bit of a mix n match of the previous marks out of necessity, from how long the HH dragged out.
I've never been in a warhammer store before bc I've bought all my stuff online. I'm going somewhere tomorrow that has a warhammer store nearby, and I will buy one (1) thing. What should I buy?
>>98534555>lmaoStop with the disingenuous laughing acronyms and grow up.
>>98534552What work have you put in? Genuine question
>>98534497You made me childhood era nostalgic…….for the game that first introduced me to warhammer 40k.You sound like the Butthurt Roblox fps players I kept stomping in games over ten years ago back in 2011-2013.All we need now are some accusations of me being a hacker and the illusion will be complete. And then copying the gear I used. That was what got under my skin and I bet my snide remarks conveyed anger at it when I thought I was being a smart roaster. I got some buddies from that game into warhammer 40k with the help of darktide. Some have gone pink white and blue and sadly come to resemble the negative caricature or stereotypes /pol/ uses that always got under my skin. Had to leave them as their unintentional instability got abusive. Maybe we just grew incompatible as time went on. But the server was also like a support group so maybe this was inevitable. Maybe it really was me. Whatever I said even with good intentions always resulted in arguments.They’re probably lurking right now.I was born to be a warhammer 40k tourneyfag if I’m being honest. I don’t know why I don’t like warhammer 40k tournaments but I’m fine with vidya ones even though I don’t play those kinds of games.Maybe I grew out of being competitive?I don’t know.
>>98534576>16 models painted within 3 yearsKek
>>9853457616k* models, apologies.
SOVL
>>98534550Thanks bruva. Now we need the book and page number and quotes to see if we can get erect at graham’s barely disguised dark eldar femdom fetish inserted into his warhammer 40k book.
>>98534581You know I meant 16k pts of models shit head so stop being purposely obtuse.
>>98534558I miss beakies
>>98534576>16 models painted within 3 yearsIs... is that it? That's like half an army. Also that's not work you did for the general, that's work you did for yourself. I would consider things like the fridge or collage as actual contributions to the thread.
>>98534584I know the pain of misspelling anon.I once typed “kids” instead of “kits” when referring to the warhammer 40k models and it wasn’t a good look.The anon who took notice did use a reaction image that was perfect for the scenario and I had to save it.Hope you feel better.
>>98534592stop ban evading
>>98534592Not kilolitres?
Looks like each army is getting their bespoke psychic powers
>>98534577>2011-2013 I should have changed it to more like 2017. My bad. Has the “…” typing died out mostly?
>>98534552You don't belong, never have and never will, you can't be anonymous, you have no soul, you have no games.
>>98534592I absolutely did not. Given there's an autist here who apparently hasn't painted in a decade, I thought this was some sort of genuine brag.Not the anon you're fighting with, btw, I just thought bragging about 16 models was hilarious
>>98534613FUCK YES
>>98534612>temporarily
>>98534612>temporarily banned
>>98534613They seem a little underwhelming from this one screenshot, but then again those are level 1 powers, and also these are much better than 8th/9th "here's another roundabout way to do d3 mortal wounds" already.
>>98534612>temporarilypermanent means permanent
>>98534633>>98534628Yes temporarily>>98534618You're probably the worst human on this board.
>>98534591The scene honestly isn't very horny, that or Mcneil can't write erotica. Now I'm reminded how poorly modern fans react to shit like Daemonculaba. Graham Mcneil is too fucking edgy now? There can't be any allusions to sex or genitalia in Warhammer unless it's Celestine lezzing out or Travis Guilliman and Tayvraine Swift? Fuck they made this shit so lame.
>>98534612The point is you haven't contributed much of anything to the thread. You supposedly painted 16k* of models in 3 years but we got no progress shots, no painting or modelling tips from you, so you really just did that for your sake. You've spammed the same few pics of those models for another few years, I wouldn't consider that a boon but rather a detriment after the 100th time you posted the same old pics. What do you contribute to here other than negativity?
>>98534577 (me)>>98534489 (me)>>98534518I don’t know if it counts but I took delight in knowing how ignorant people are and still are to how typing “…” is a sign of being angry. I don’t know if that counts as cringing.But it is like those things that don’t mean what you think it is like when a guy says “I’m a nice guy” he is signaling he is a narcissist and an asshole.
>>98534613If the tactical deck comes with cards for these I might actually buy it so I can randomised my psychic powers easily
So Da Jump is essentially go to reserves and then immediately deep strike back onto the board, Warpath lets you ignore modifiers because everything is psychic
>>98534642>Yes temporarilyNope! You're banned from the collage for life and fridge is dead. You never were and never will be a part of any community project this general will ever do. Kill yourself.
Please james let boxnoughts be this good.
>>98534597how, they got a shitton of releases
>>98534642How do you feel knowing that the vtumor has been on the collage and does more hobby than you?
D6 damage is becoming D3+2
>>98534649>is a sign of being angryIt's not though? That's just you thinking that. It's just the trailing of an unfinished/unsaid thought, that could be angry but not necessarily
>>98534654>psychic disciplines are back>psychic tests are back>perils of the warp are back>none of them are core rules nor have their actual namesShit at least they exist.
>>98534642You're banned forever, you are your own worst enemy and any and every bad attribute you see in others is actually your own.You don't belong here or anywhere else because you are a mindless misbegotten waste unable to be human.
supreme
>>98534517The qabalites will be ihn the big starter box and combat patrol and primaris kabalites will replace 2011 kabalites.
>>98534643Daemonculabararararara is now heralded as a true example of grimdark among secondaries. I think it used to be an obscure thing but now 40k lore YouTube channels made it so popular that mentioning it is a mark of being someone who just gets his lore from YouTubers that just read wikis.Sometimes i ponder inserting fake lore in the wikis or lexicanum just to see if popular loretubers scrape it up and fans believe it and then it “becomes canon” when a GW intern brings it up.I think this already happened a lot though.>rest of that postYeah the social media normies are weird like that where the homo shippings and lewd are fine with little exception but a male and female erotic implied is now bad. But maybe it is just the loud mentally unhinged ones who make it seem like there are many like that and the number is actually smaller.Or that is a damage control cope.
>>98534664My meltas like that.
>>98534079>World EaterGet GSC, instead of ooga booga and running at your opponents you're playing a finesse army that need to think multiple turns ahead and have things interact with each other. Of course WE isn't simple as just trying to land charges immediately, but GSC >>98534395Either get Broodcoven sprue with Patriarch, Primus and Magus or find a cheap one off ebay. There's gotta be plenty of She-Magi from the combat patrol box. I have two myself, plus another one from the Broodcoven that I kitbashed into a Benefictus.
I like orks :D>>98533183I do like orks :D>>98533208for one, they have an actual proper multipart kit in the year 2026.
The kill rig is also apparently a psyker
>>98534665You may be blind to subtext and social norms and wish that others were as blind as you or give you the benefit of the doubt out of pity, but normal people aren't blind.
>>98534670Just so you understand the way you speak to others here is not okay and you will held accountable.
>>98534663Please don't bring me into this.
>>98534665I primarily am referring to “…” when only that is typed out and when it is typed and sent when someone gets outplayed in a game if that makes sense.That’s the most times when I see it being used.Remember this was a decade ago so maybe it is me being a boomer or “unc” now as I can’t keep up with modern slang.I hope that clears things up.I’m sorry if I was being too vague as text communication isn’t my forte.And neither is verbal and I don’t have the esl excuse either…………..
>>98534684So are psychic powers on a unit to unit basis?
>>98534664Does Lethal + sustained mean you get 1 auto wound + 1 roll or 2 auto wounds?
why is it that I apparently can’t phonepost from work now because my IP range is blocked, but the mutant is able to apparently post willy nilly despite ban evading 160+ times.
>>98534698As far as I'm aware it's 1 auto wound + 1 roll. Correct me if I'm wrong.
>>98534689meant for >>98534642
>>98534683>GW doing multipart where third party can make bits/stls compatible Kromlech is gonna be all over this in due time if their current parts aren’t easily compatible. I will be proven right and if I’m not I’ll take the loss.It is weird seeing gw making models like that though. I thought a lot of gw plastic sculpts were designed to make it hard for third parties to make afterMarket compatible parts.
>>98534697Each Psyker has a group of psychic powers that they have innately, but there are a bunch of others you can get in the detachment/army rules that are shared between them. So think of it like having a signature psychic power or two an then armywide ones any psyker can do.
>>98534613please let farseers have something good pleasepleaseplease
>>98534699You just posted
>>98534671I wish pulse carbines were ever worth taking.
>>98534688>make up specific subtext in your mind>nuh-uh you're blind for not knowing what I have fabricated in my head!!!>>98534691And yet, people use ... on its own as just a pause, something of a disbelieving "did you really just say that? and other such uses. I really can't believe you've grown to unc age without seeing this sort of usage. Not every time does someone ... are they angry
>>98534698Yes. You make two attacks, you roll two die and both are 6. You get two auto-wounds, plus you get 2 additional attacks to that landed and need to see if you wound. From two attacks, you get 2 auto-wounds + 2 more possible wounds for a total of 4. It's pretty good isn't it?Imagine having lethals and sustained and ignoring cover, critting on 5+ and also full rerolls.
>>98534710>peopleno, not people, you manchild-shaped bugs are less conscious than cephalopods
>>98534699No idea anon.Make a burner for “ip temporarily block due to abuse” because were in an era of ai bots that have or soon will break through the captchas. I’ve been getting those a lot.It sucks and also anons posting warhammer 40k in this general catch temps when trying to point out the decalfag’s antics on this 40k general to help him or just caught in the crossfire because jannies are tired.He is a real detriment to this general and board and probably some sort of socio or psychopath as he can’t comprehend his mistakes or being at fault with sincerity.
>>98534704God that's perfect.
any recasters that have the tantalus?I know wtg and Z both do but they're probably in awful shape considering how they both love overusing their molds
>>98534654Am I wrong or is this worded stupidly and both abilities still do the rest of their effect even on a result of 1, they just are battle-shocked as well (and in reserves for da jump? lol). I don't know why that would be the intended function.
>>98534684did you miss that it's got a wyrdboy on top?
>>98534702They get dragged through the coals over pic related which also presumably flopped hard given how they deleted it from the storepage weeks before the boyz made during 3rd edition, so I guess they’re swinging hard in the other direction. I also don’t think third party bits are THAT bad for them. in the end, they’re still paying for GW kits, and putting their own little bits on it to customize. they lost nothing by them kitbashing, and in fact they might gain more because using pic related as an example, you can only buy one or two of them before they start to look samey meanwhile if you use kromlech bits you can have any number of different looking boyz.
>>98534699skill issue
>>98534724Because you can't use strats or use another psychic power if you're battleshocked, so failing a test locks you out of psychic on that unit for the rest of the turn.
>>98534723Just wait and see if they make a plastic one for DE for the codex. Chances are good they will get a vect model.
>>98534713>>98534700Thanks, anons
Just got home from work and finished the lawnTime to start work on my Hellblasters!I hope it doesn't take me a whole year to complete, ten models seems like a monumental task
I guess there's no way to use "..." without being angry. Unless...
Aircraft are out of shitter jail
>>98534710I believe the “…” being a textual telltale sign of an angry lad sending it is still valid because that’s what I’ve mostly been seeing and it seems some anons here are confirming this.I did say exceptions like dialogue writing for characters. It can work in books and comics. But in a game with text chat or a forum here it is usually a smoking gun that the one who fired is angry. It can mean I double down on what pissed him off if I was a competitive gamer back as a kid or a sign that I unknowingly angered someone and I need to apologize and rephrase what I said in a better way.I have autism too.
>YOUR CODEX STILL WORKSgee that lasted five seconds
>>98534732is that coming out soon?I don't keep up with modern 40k, my group just sticks with 4th and 7th
>>98534721>He is a real detriment to this general and board and probably some sort of socio or psychopath as he can’t comprehend his mistakes or being at fault with sincerity.I'll say. I've been trying to get feedback on something for a day but all the general wants to do is punch the spreg
>>98534727>>98534702I always thought it was cause of recasters not 3rd party (lots of details and complex shapes), recasting was very rampant in 7th ed, made worse by the large amount of resin kits in the lineup. No one in their right mind would ever buy a resin recast of a plastic kit, so maybe they are laxening their stance.It could also have to do with combating 3d printing, which has basically replaced recasting. By making their models more appealing and easy to convert people will be more inclined to get them.
>>98534743>strafing runs don't actually move the modelThat's janky as fuck.
>>98534743>GW buffs ork aircraft>hints at Elysians coming backValkyrie buffs confirmed
>>98534727That’s a fair point. If gw is fighting third party compatibility it is probably a bad idea as those bits still need those gw parts to work.And most warhammer 40k players aren’t after the actually good scans of models. I’m talking about scans that could be mistaken as leaked digital files if that makes sense.Do scan artifacts affect the final print result?Either way because it took your post for me to realize it I think I am perfect for working on Games Workshop’s board of directors.Except I may accidentally breathe about lowering prices and get shot.
>>98534717Aw don't talk about yourself like that, mutie. We all hate you but no need to beat yourself up like this
>>98534752Yeah and it meant they couldn't change some fundamentally stupid parts of 10th that are still around. Lose-lose.
>>98534752It's GW, they lie as they breathe.
The Shokk Attack Gun table is (kind of) back
>>98534731And with the new BS rules you might get locked out for longer
>>98534743Holy shit Dakkajets are insanely lethal again.>36 shots at 18" hitting on 4+ with autowound on 6s
>>98534754Are you the 1k lists guy? Nobody gives advise for lists smaller than 2k, typically. Game balances falls apart at 1k or less in particular so it doesn't really matter, take what you think is fun
>>98534761I think you’re thinking of the excessive greenling and dangly details that would be fine or hard plastic but a death sentence for resin model stability that are meant to snap off during play at the lgs revealing the resin not being official gw plastic and getting the player ostracized or banned hopefully in gw’s eyes.This is most visible in aos models and structurally unstable looking models like the void dragon and end times nagash.
>>98534706that’s cause I’m back home now after not being able to properly shitpost on my break.>>98534721definitely lacks empathy/self awareness. you can see the same exact behavior in lolcows like cyrax or andrew ditch.>>98534754>trying to get feedback on somethingwhat something would that be?
>>98534738
>>98534774I know you're not the direct source of these pages, but if they haven't been shared already I really want to see the Warbuggy datasheet.
>>98534798
It looks like generally:Army Rule power is upDatasheet power is upDetachment power is way down Costs are up11e's detachment system is going to be that GW intends for 3x1 DP detachments, picking 3 parts of an army and giving them buffs + enhancements + strats.
>>98534753I dont keep up with modern either, my group plays a 4-th to 6th ed homebrew called pepsihammer. but I heard that the two focus armies this edition are expected to be greyknights and dark eldar, and you just know GW is going to take any excuse to sell you a 200 dollar 'centerpiece' mini.There is a tantalus on ebay right now for 325. One sold like 2 weeks ago for 185. The thing about the tantalus is that the flooring on the deck is actually etched brass. I dont know if a recaster could make that. Maybe send them an offer.
>>98534786>lacks empathyAre you referring to me or the socio psychopathy theorizing?I am tired today. That’s my excuse for misunderstanding.Anyways it can be a bit concerning when someone like decal can ban evade you wouldn’t believe. It means the info is out there and normie tier easily and readily accessible but I don’t know why it took me this long to realize that. Anons have probably been doing this for years on more rowdier boards.Were there any warhammer 40k lolcows like our space wolf anon here or across /tg/ that were comparable? Or is this guy a special case?I’m not sure if perryfag counts. The autists like that.
>>98534802soulless
>>98534793we prefer the term "Primarily Challenged"
If Tau get an army rule that isn't retarded spreadsheet anal ass bullshit I will play them.
>>98534805I'm extremely happy about this. I was getting annoyed at detachments basically dictating your list in 10th. Now it seems like it's the opposite, you build your list and then pick detachments that complement it.
>>98534771Like what?
The Warboss now gets the Supreme Commander CP generation rule, so it's looking like CP generation is going to be a Warlord thing instead of being locked to certain epic heroes.
>>98534802Wait what the actual fuck, they actually just straight up deleted the Dragsta and Skrapjet.The rest of the rules for these look... decent.
>>98534807I’m agreeing with your assessment decalfag is a sociopath/psychopath of some kind. >anyone comparable maybe irontard? he was so bad they actually documented his meltdowns which hasn’t even happened to the decalfag yet aside from his ongoing hellblasters saga. https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/98246819/#q98283912
>>98534821Goated change to be honest. Makes warlord choice relevant and doesn't force you to take a shit cp generator unit that your army might not have.
>>98534806>the flooring on the deck is actually etched brassI didn't actually know that but I did check and it's in resinand $300 isn't bad for a wildly OOP forge world model
>>98534819Weapons being tied to datasheets like in AoS instead of modular like evey other edition of 40k. Not being able to add 30k style mental stats for morale. Not being able to add AVs or old AP.
>>98534833Yeah irontard is a good one.I don’t think anybody knew the first decaled tank would be the birth of an autist and here we are and by then it was too late for it to be easy to go back and find the original first post.But even then I can only see an infographic image with visual highlights of space wolf anon’s antics being made instead of iron tard documentation.I’m talking an image like this:https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/109563427/#q109563444I don’t want to be the one who makes it in gimp or Krita or pixlr as I’m not funny.
>>98534821>new model has attack squig>no attack squig attacks in profilereally makes you think
>>98534887It's a performative squig.
>>98534871does anyone know the month or at least year he started posting? I know he started as some random anon asking why he got banned from his LGS, but I don’t know the general time. I think I want to see if I can find the original post.
>>98534784I am, I got a bunch of feedback last time, must have been a fluke.>Game balances falls apart at 1k or less in particularTrue, but I assume it's possible to make lists that work well against each other >>98534786>what something would that be?This >>98534254
Give me Codex Roadmap pls GW, I need to know if my codex is coming two years from now on. I might start collecting CSM instead of grabbing new GSC models.
>>98534887that’s his emotional support squig, anon. the warboss has a lot of anxiety.
>>98534802So mathing this shit out, assuming a MEQ profile (on the assumption they're still T4):>Mek Speshul actually has worse results with point blank fire than aimed fire on average - 2.97 failed saves vs. 3.48>Likewise with the Rivet Kannon, though with a smaller margin of 0.25 successful wounding results in favor of aimed fireI think the AP of the Mek Speshul and the damage of the Rivet Kannon both at point blank should have gone up by 1 to tweak things a bit and encourage the daredevil drive-by playstyle they seem to want for these.
>>98534890ah fuck, I’m a nogames, and thought this was about painting. just from looking at it, I’d go with the first option but that’s PURELY because footsloggers and especially the crusader squad is cool.
>>98534887You can factor the attack squig into the "Kustom choppa" attacks.
>>98534216>>98534243I've just updated the tactical squad entry to have their profiles match intercessors stats & abilities while swapping out the special weapons for primaris equivalents. I don't play in tournaments and my friends aren't cunts so it's gucci.It's extremely not hard to have a good time
>>98534802>>98534821not enough abilities and keywords, these profiles are still almost legible. do better, gw.
>>98534846I hope you dont mean 300 for a recast. But also that looks like hell to deal with flashing on lol. But yeh 300 is stomachable for me for a huge display model that I only need 1 of.
>>98534912They are cool, though I do wish there was a better option than two assault squads. I like variety in units.
>>98534976I meant 300 for that one on ebay, a recast would only set me back $50
Satin or matte varnish?
>>985350291:1 mix of them, unironically
>>98535029I like satin, makes stuff look like toys of which they are.
>>98535032Hard to mix rattle cans.
so all remaining firstborn are getting Legend'ed it seems (so say Valrak)thoughts ?
>>98535046my hatred for GW keep growing every day
>>98534900I think the only ones we have rumored in the pipeline are Tau and Custodes this year and Drukhari early next year. So at least six months if you're not Space Marines or Orks or one of those.
>>98535046except rhino and land raider
>>98535046>Tacticals going to legendsI'll literally only believe it when I see it. The rest I totally believe.
>>98535046Should be seen as a pretty big event for the wargame as a whole, probably not a good sign.
>>98535059Predators are also shown in the academy video and I doubt they'd squat whirlwinds and vindicators with how popular they are.
>>98535046Valrak didn't know that the Praetorian Guard is a guard regiment, he's not a credible source
>>98535062They made sure to hide them from all marketing and give them shit rules for a decade so nobody would buy or miss them.
>>98535029First satin for the better protection, then matte to cut down on the gloss.
>>98535069It's still turning a pretty big page. I think the game's suffering as a whole anyway, you need more and more models just to play a proper game and they're more expensive than ever; that's how WHFB went down.
>>98535046Devastator unit would be gone but not Surprising.Like what am I gonna do with the Grav guns?
>>98535046Such is the way of things. People are gonna pretend like it's a big deal but I haven't seen a firstborn marine on any table I've played at since primaris came out. People by and large have already moved on years ago.
>>98535075Yeah but whfb was dogshit anyways and didn’t have anything to keep it relevant when there were better fantasy IPs.
>>98535087This was before AoS and it was pretty fun though the costs pretty much strangled the game in its cradle for my LGS. 40k is still going strong but it's all tournament players and nobody else, that's the lifeblood of it.
>>98535046I will literally buy 60 of each primaris marine kit in reaction to this information if it turns out to be true.
So what do you boyz think about the new codex?Orky or not Orky?
>>98535093>this was before Aos Yeah I know I was there trying to enjoy fantasy since 6th edition but the game and setting was awful.
>>98535046I don't careThe lore around it is dumb, but it was a dumb idea originallyThe scale change is good, and rhe armour change is just another MK with all the personal preference that entails.
>>98535105Yeah, and I think 40k's going in the same direction.
>>98535105The setting was fine, the issues were the model count needed to actually play and a huge disparity in quality between old and new sculpts across most ranges
I will keep the dream alive until they stsrt shooting me for putting my short kings on the tableTotal Firstborn Life
>>98535079>I haven't seen a firstborn marine on any table I've played at since primaris came out.>dudes dumped their entire marine army and ran only the dark imperium contents as soon as it came outeither your LGS has the most unholy marine piggies in existence, or you’re the biggest nomodel larper itt.
>>98535021There is supposedly a really good recaster called bmm, that excels in cast quality and in having some really hard to find kits, but I have never tried them cause they dont take paypal. They claim to actually repair casting defects in their masters before they cast.
>>98535123Not that anon but it happened at my LGS because it's a bunch of meta chasing tournament players, to them there's no reason to use models that aren't good.
>>98535117I love you man, but dude you really gotta figure out a symbol for /yourdudes/.those dreadnoughts are practically naked!
>>98535117oh look it's decalfag 2
>>98535113>the setting was fine The setting was genuinely boring. Between the flanderization of its armies to match 40ks grimdark tone, and the unimaginative world with no point, I hardly could ever see eye to eye with people who “liked” fantasy. I think the only thing that ever caught my eye was the lustria campaign and that was also half assed. Personally I also think fantasy and Aos outlived their purpose when gw stopped making kits modular enough for them to be mixed with 40k stuff.
>>98535112You can’t think.
>>98535123
>>98535148The game sucks at the moment and the new edition is looking as bloated as the previous with the same lame design.
>>98535129I have actually used bmm before and they do make really good casts, but this was before the war obviouslythey do not have the tantalus, it was one of the first places I checked
>>98535123Anon people have wanted space marine sized marine minis for like 40 years. And you really expect them not to buy them?
>>98535123We had ONE guy who kept using his old marines for a while but even he gave in and got primaris marines after an edition of bitching about GW raping his lore. Everyone else swapped to the newer models as they came out and replaced the units they used. You can believe what you want but that's the truth, people wanted larger marines for years and when they got them they bought them. The average person isn't some autist who obsesses over knee flanges and gorgets like anons here do.
>>98535148>p-primaris are cool guise!You are a cuckold
>>98535159Hmm, and you didnt get your credit card stolen? Admittedly at this point I have pretty much collected my lifetime supply of OOP ebay buys of all the models I wanted as a kid but couldnt afford. I have 24 flying ripper swarms. I have also tried cheap and fast and blm, both of middling quality that varried a lot by set. Its gonna take a lot of putty work to fix these blm kroot gnarloc riders but they are like 400 dollars nib on ebay so f that.
>>98535155No. Games. You are. >>98535175>says the dude whose watching his “beloved” firstborn midgets get turned to dust
Speaking of firstborn, has anyone had any success in beefing up Mk II or Mk III tacticals and slapping them on 40mm bases to stand in for gravis units?
>>98535175But enough about you nomodels
>>98535192Why would I play a game that sucks and disrespects my army? 9th and 10th were complete fucking nightmares and I'm not spending $50-$60 on a codex that's invalidated before it releases.
>>98535208>thinking he needs to buy themlarper alert
>>98535218Again: why play an edition where your army is complete fucking garbage with the same broken design?
>>98535232You've never played any edition thoughbeit
>>98535241Aha, you must be one of those special posters, got it.
>>98535139cry nigga
>>98535245That would be (you), shitposter-kun>>98535248Proving him right
>>98535232Sadly, modern 40k players only want to play the newest edition and take offense at anyone having any good memories of the past or older models.
>>98535253Yeah it fucking blows, 9th was such cognitive overload for my army that it wasn't fun to play because it felt like I was just pulling a ton of levers to do what other armies got just for existing.
>>98535173Honestly what offends me more than anything is the lack of a real god damn boltgun. And bolt pistols. Those new ones look so lame by comparison. But I also love me the phobos boltguns.
>>98535186I'm almost positive they used paypal or maybe they generated a dummy etsy listingalso BLM are on my shitlist, they do that marketing gimmick where they quietly increase the price of models before sales
>>98535260>de-primaris'ing his primarisNuclear levels of based. I knew a DAngels guy at my lgs who did this with his 40k army.
>>98535260>brother david no! that soldier is unarmed!
>>98535259kek
>>985352588th was the last edition I enjoyed playing and even that was a shadow of editions prior. My main enjoyment was Admech having Knights baked in. Modern 40k is abysmal and has become more of a lifestyle culture with MOBA-like balance patches and less of a narrative focused, beer and pretzels war game and hobbvyist experience. Real shame.
>>98535192You're conflating me with a different poster, I do not have a marine army>>98535203Ah the cry of the cucked
>>98535279Oh hey I play ad mech too. I came to 8th after a break from 6th/7th because my favourite guys were in the game. 8th was okay but it felt radically different, 9th fucking sucked.
hmmm, Army of Faith has a pretty underwhelming detachment rule, but it has a disposition I like, it has good enhancements I would actually use, and it has good strategems.Champions of Faith has a pretty neat detachment rule since I use all three of the units it buffs and making sacresants OC2 is actually relevant, but I don't want to play disruption and I wouldn't use any of these enhancements.Hallowed Martyrs is the popular one and the detachment rule is obviously good, a couple of the strategems are among the best of any of the strategems for this faction, and even the enhancements are good. I also wouldn't mind playing Assets disposition. I get why this is by far the most popular one. The only downside is that I really would miss Orators, since Martyrs is 3dp. Orators is neat because it makes Junith almost always pass her +1command point test and it makes the Dogmata ld5 which is way better than anything we can normally get and makes units practically battleshock-proof. But I suppose these are small prices to pay for the obviously best detachment.Last but not least Penitent weighs in as the one and only Purge option, so if you are inclined towards that it's your only choice, and it actually does legitimately have a few good enhancements and strategems. The only problem is that it only cares about Penitent keyword units, which excludes Paragons, sacresants, Insididiants, battleline, all the vehicles/walkers besides the engines/morts, and all the characters besides Freye. You're pretty much only buffing Repentia, Flagellants, and the engines/morts. So most units don't get anything here.After much debate over a long time, I decided my favorites are Army since it's Hold disposition which I like, and Martyrs since Assets is my second favorite and it feels like it actually does a lot while you play which is the most fun, feeling like your detachment is doing work is a better feeling than like Orators or Army where it's only sometimes relevant.
>>98535284My condolences Anon, even if I appreciate your good taste. Playing Admech - or attempting to, in 10th and 11th has made me hate modern 40k.
>>98535300On the bright side I have no shortage of fancy looking models to paint, even the newer releases are pretty neat.
>>98535123At my LGS all the old marine players just quit the hobby after Primaris. Not all at once, but it's been a slow transition. Even the owners are stepping back from running the shop. A combination of ageing out of it and their heart just not being in it anymore. So you do only see Primaris, but it's people new to the hobby who see 40k as the next MtG. But even they are dropping out now due to lack of interest. I didn't understand it at first.how they could just drop it after assembling whole armies, but I talked to one and it turns out most of these guys don't build or paint their own models. They buy it and then pay someone else to do that bit. Trending consumerism is a plague.
>>98535303That is a positive. I personally considered going over to 30k to play Mechanicum, but ended up in Fantasy and The Old World instead. No regrets to play an actually fun and proper game.
>>98535322I just bought some of the 30k models to add to my collection, they look so wicked and I want to collect all of the techpriests I can get.
>>98535285>talks about sisters detachments>entirely ignores Bringers of FlameIt's just a worse version of Firestorm Assault Force with worse units than are available to a SM player, it's good to ignore it. I do at least.
>>98535322>GW cattle goes from one goyslop machine to another well cheers anon, Personally if I had to play another game I'd just leave gws circle entirely but I guess pigs just cant handle leaving their trough.
>>98535137yeah I know I knowBut in my mind, anything that isn't painting or kitbashing takes time away from painting and kitbashing. And my list is slapdash because I've been inactive since 8th so I just want to erect a halfway decent army. Plus I'd actually have to lock in a name and icon and that's scaryOn a related note, does anyone know some extra fucking giga strength paint remover? Superclean degreaser has been my go-to, but I bought some Sternguard secondhand and a 3 day bath with 3 scrub sessions doesn't seem to do the trick
WHO HERE ORK PLAYER AND WHO HERE FUCKING JUST?
>>98535325They are nice. >>98535328I play other games by other companies, have a heartbreaker game of my own I dabble in design with in between taking care of my wife and kids. I 3D print too, so the world is my oyster, really.
>>98535329I used 99% isopropanol once, ate the paint in 5 minutes.
>>98535173>believe what you wantI BELIEVE I saw >>98535079 saying he didn’t see a single firstborn marine once primaris came out, and then I reiterated it by saying this means they would have had to dump all firstborn models and play with only the primaris units released with dark imperium which is retarded because that would leave massive gaps in the marine army, and then I BELIEVE you sped read my post and came in with a completely different scenario where it was a slow swap from firstborn to primaris (which is completely reasonable btw), and acted like that is what I was refuting happened. tl;drI didn’t say people didn’t buy primaris when they came out, I said they didn’t run only primaris units when they came out. KILL YOURSELF
>>98535329Did you try rubbing alcohol?If no, try that. 91% works fine, sit the model in it fully submerged for like a half hour and then scrub with a toothbrush. Just cover the container so the alcohol doesn't evaporate.If yes, try a product called "LA's Totally Awesome." Should be found at Walmart or dollar stores around you if you're American (I can't suggest things if you're not).
>>98535343>>98535351Haven't tried that yet, thanks
>>98535329Backing up what >>98535343 said. Isopropyl alcohol. 89%+ is pretty good, and 95%+ is very good albeit more expensive. My personal preference is 89%.
Can I get an invite to the discord?
I should buy a tactical squad while I can. I want to make a mini diorama with them like pic related. I got so many bare heads to use too, and some more old helmets and bits would do nicely for me with my main models.
>>98535059>>98535065I don't see Rhinos going away either. Sisters use them and so does Chaos. Unless they make a new Rhino for those two and just don't allow Space Marines to use it. Or release sister and Chaos versions of Horus Heresy Rhinos (and predators and vindicators for Chaos as well)Honestly lorewise though it makes sense for both Chaos and Sisters to use the Horus Heresy Deimos Rhino. So they might do it that way.
>>98533223Maybe if you only won games by tabling your opponent with infinite turns, but that’s not how the game is scored. If the most elite armies had an advantage then knights would win every game, but they don’t. Because if you can kill one or two knights they don’t have enough firepower or scoring units to win.
>>98535390Why'd they phase out rifle-style plasma guns among primaris units?
>>98535391I think we'll see the Rhino getting the option to carry tacticus, as they always should have, or we'll get them phased out for use with space marine armies and they go all in on a proper primaris rhino model. That's my crackpot theory considering the Impulsor is just the front half of a Rhino on steroids and anti grav bullshit.
>>98535330Most of the rules are interesting, but I'm just so utterly baffled by the Skrapjet and Dragsta getting axed. I can't wrap my head around it no matter what angle I take.>Sales for those two buggies, specifically, were poor enough to warrant the discontinuation of productionThis one is extremely easy to call out as bullshit - the Dragsta was probably pretty unpopular but certainly not dead last, that would have to have been the Snazzwagon. But even if it somehow was... the Skrapjet was consistently the #1 most popular or a close second to the Squigbuggy. So why dump that one too?>Players found the existence of so many assorted light vehicles obnoxious to keep track of, on both sides of the gameOk, that one is fair, but in that case why not give them all the same treatment as the KBB and Snazzwagon? Take 5 datasheets and cut them down to like, 2, with weapon options swapping out like in that one.
>>98535395Because GW is allergic to wargear now.
>>98535391Also current DG Combat Patrol comes with a Rhino as well. Then again the current Grey Knight Combat Patrol also comes with a goddamn Venerable Dreanought so not not sure how good protection Combat Patrols are.
Alright if Warhammer Combat Patrol is supposed to be your first introductory games, then why the fuck does it have the 10VP painting rule? Yeah that's going to be a nice first experience for someone who spent 170 bucks on one."You lead by 7vp but you see I painted all my minis so haha I win by 3 points."
>>98535425>because GW is allergic to wargear now for marinesftfy. meanwhile in the better army.
>>98535428Scratch that. It's temporarily out of stock from GW's website, but one of my local LGS has put it as "out of production" so that may indicate that this is not going to be produced. So yeah who knows after all what's going to happen to the humble Rhino.
>>98535425>>98535461and the other better army.
>>98535461>Kustom Choppa>Kustom Krumpa
>>98535483>EC>better army>even a good armyLMAO
>>98535485SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>98535490It's okay anon they took away all of my fancy ad mech pistols and weapons too.
>>98535425Fuck reminds me of how Battle Sisters are such a scam when it comes to heavy weapons. If you want to WYSIWYG to have enough multi meltas you need to spend 390 dollars extra."Oh you want to WYSIWYG your army huh? Oh you want to give your BSS Squad a Multi Melta as it's best weapon huh? Well FUCK YOU the BSS box doesn't come with those. You have to instead buy the heavy weapon Retributor squad for almost the price of a BSS squad while it comes with half the models.""Oh you also want to have a 4x Multi Melta Retributor squad? FUCK YOU! Those overpriced boxes only come with 2 Multi Meltas. You need to buy 2 boxes of those to make one of those squads."
>>98535500same as it ever was
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>>98535500Everyone I know who plays Sisters (me included) just chops the barrels off of the heavy flamer and attaches two melta barrels from the ones in the kit for Dominions. It sucks, but the kit is from 2019 and is already out of date so they won't update it again.It comes with Celestian heads, and then GW removed the entire unit in 10th edition. Those heads were usable for "correct" models for like 4 years.Reintroducing Celestians with slightly better weapons and t4w2 to truly stand out as a ranged "veteran" option for Sisters would be a welcome addition, and would cost GW exactly nothing because they're already making them and the assembly instructions in the box already have them mentioned.
>>98535500GW killed WYSIWYG with their box autism. I don't even care about it anymore. I can't reasonably expect someone to grab 2-3 extra boxes just to make their loadouts "look" right when everyone knows what they're taking anyway.
I'm looking at the terrain layout cards. It looks like if you have a unit with infiltrate, and you have a unit with scouts 6, you can actually occupy the center with the first and occupy your expansion with the later, right? So you could control 3 objectives before the game even starts?
>>98535580Yeah but most primary missions occur from the 2nd round onwards, so the points gain is minimal as far as primary missions are concerned. It's still pretty good to have units near objectives and centre, and especially if they're expendable ones as you can always draw things like Centre Ground or Extend Battlelines or Plunder on turn one. You'll score them early on, then your units will die but they've already done their jobs.Also if you go first, even if the model has started on an objective you're not in control of it until the end of the phase. This is important for some rules and abilities trigger at the start of the command phase on an objective you control, like my GSC's Acolytes giving you a free command point. It does not trigger if I go first.
>>98535542personally i think that was one of the best changes they could have made. it fucking sucked in the era where you couldnt get the weapons you wanted to field without bits ordering, or didnt want to take special weapons or sergeant weapons because it was points inefficient. free wargear as the box comes was a good overall change for the hobby. yes it sacrificed some gameplay granularity, but not having to stress about your plastic figures having the wrong stats and just modeling what you actually bought without leaving shit on the sprue is a godsend.now that said, do i wish every box came with 4 flamers, 4 meltaguns, 4 plasma guns, etc? yes, of course. that is the ideal world. but thats not the world GW has almost ever delivered, and the few times they have its usually packaged as a separate weapons box upgrade sprue for premium $$$. so if i have to live in reality, i'd rather live in a reality where i can throw a powerfist and a plasma pistol on a sergeant in every squad without worrying about losing out on 200pts of models over the course of a list for having done so.
>>98535610I'm confused. I think I read that whether or not an objective is controlled is checked at the end of each phase, and at the end of each turn. So if you begin the game with your models on an objective, whether by scouts or infiltrate, I think you will control that objective starting at the end of your first command phase, which is the earliest the game "checks" for who controls what. So I think if something says "At the end of your command phase, if you control this objective..." it will work. If something says "At the beginning of your command phase, if you control this objective..." it will not work. As you say. If the GSC acolytes say "At the beginning..." it won't work. But, for example, if something like a SoB simulacrum that says "At the end of your command phase..." that would work. Because the game checks and "sees" that you control it at the end.So this is a case where the wording is very important. You don't control the objective at the start of your command phase. But you do control it at the end of your command phase. Hopefully if this is not accurate someone will chime in.I'm used to this type of autism about wording and when exactly the game checks things since I was a mtg judge for like a decade. And 40k actually follows a similar turn structure as mtg, with what is essentially the upkeep is the same as the command phase, and the sub-phases are phases of the turn in both games.
Dumb question but if you have a vigilant squad in a marine list, can they ride in a rhino?
>>98535268Converting marines is why I build marines. As an army, they offer huge amounts of room for individualism. It really makes me sad how GW makes it hard to get cool parts now though. I have tons but for a new player it probably means wasting your time getting scalped on ebay or sifting through shitty 3d proonts.>>98535272Dont wory anon he got his arms eventually!
>>98535672Yes, it would just count as an imperial agent rhino.
>>98535672I actually had a similar question about GSC riding in a Chimera with the detachment that lets you take guard.
>>98535680>It really makes me sad how GW makes it hard to get cool parts now thoughWe can hope for some better bitz and parts that can be kitbashed soon, with the way the new kits aesthetically are being done up, like with the armageddon marines armour patterns and some redone old style helmets.
>>98533818Reminds me of my recast Stormsurge I painted...god, 10 years ago. Shame Tau didn't stick with me, I really wanted to like them but playing them wasn't too fun.
>>98535699Thanks
>>98535510its cool that the starscythe is on the right, the fireknife on the left and in the center is the sunforge.Its cool that this picture is still valid.
Psyker levels are back, neat. Nice bit of flavor/granularity, even if they're templated like shit.
>>98535792Am I reading it right that the ability still goes off even if you roll a 1? You just get battleshocked?
does somebody have the new ghaz profile pic
For all the /yourdudes/ endorsement i see, nobody seems to make up fun Warboss names. It can't be that hard to call your warboss something like wazchoppa squigclaws (who, as the name suggests, has a squig instead of a power klaw)
>>98535680>he got his armsvery well, fire away.
>>98535721We can hope, but then you find posts like thishttps://www.reddit.com/r/Eldar/comments/c5s5mi/what_are_the_two_extra_things_included_on_the/and you just have to think that GW has identified a lower common denominator in their customer base.
>>98535818My tau Commander's name is Commander God Wind.
>>98535818I always joked around with my friend about naming his warboss Kuntslamma or Nutsmasha.
>>98535792>tfw no more 1 shotting characters with 'eadbangerpower vomit sounds kinda cool though
>>98535821RETURN FIRE!
>>98535818at least according to the /40kg/ dudes pastebin, and my memory, I think there’s only thunda crunchaz anon who has /yourdudes/ for orks and names for them, but I’d say they’re pretty funny>Ruddz Badtredd >Gogbits
>>98535721>with the way the new kits aesthetically are being doneSpectre squad has a shitload of bitz, it's great. Posted about it with this pic some threads back but the arms are universal joints, there's enough lasrifles with stocks so you don't have to use any of the lascarbines if you want, similarly there's around 20 heads without a Cadian helmet (and plenty of helmeted heads if you wish for the whole unit to have them). Plenty of pointing hands, holding gear, or even just holding a gun with one hand so you don't have to do the awkward shaving the second hand off the front of a gun. Looking extremely promising for making Tanith Ghosts, don't think I'll even need extra third party bitzSo yes, if they keep going this direction we'll be laughing. Make mini kits great again
>>98535825Imagine being a guardsman and a bunch of Orks teleport in, one of them pukes on you and you feel the warp overtaking you as you see the mob butcher your squad
>>98535842did you get your pet gibbon to hold the instructions
>>98535797Looks like it, and the ability still goes off on a one!Might just be a thing with level one pykers, maybe the higher level ones have worse outcomes for rolling bad
>>98535842wow, that is a lot o- JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR FINGERS?
>>98535818>For all the /yourdudes/ endorsement This website is mostly midiwt gen Z consoomers that has a hard time comprehending the desire to make up your own stuff because Twitter told them OC was cringe
>>98535847Hairless manlet spotted>>98535857>FINGERS
>>98535818I feel like people don't often say their /dudes/' names beyond occasionally saying their chapter's/warband's/dynasty's/klan's name. Also custom subfactions aren't all that common, even here.
>>98535863to be fair, I have pretty retarded ideas for my OC’s its just that I know I won’t be able to convert them to do them proper justice.
So crucible gone right? Shame
>>98535818I just don't have /my dudes/ for Orks because I enjoy Orks from a distance. I have no strong desire to own or play Orks.
>>98535818I’ve got one for you, though I haven’t posted it before.Sneakboss Whispashiv I don’t have one painted yet Cus he’s a badguy for my other dudes. But one day I may make a kitbash to try painting an ork.
>>98535818I need to find the most American name I can and figure out how to orkify it.
>>98535900Jorj Floydd
>>98535797Yup, seems that way. I dig it. Being battleshocked stopping you from casting psychic is a good idea.
>>98535900Gromspon Krumpason
>>98535900Donald Krump
>>98535900Mike TrukWillie DusticeBobson Dugnutt
>>98535900I guess it depends on what era you consider most “american”, but unfortunately you’ll lead to a lot of british names if you go before the civil war for obvious reasons. maybe ol hikkorky?
Sad thing is Orkz, in all the ridiculousness with how their names worrk, will always be mogged by the Iron hands. You cannot find something as silly as Iron hands, primarch of the iron hands who has iron hands.Fuck you, Ferrus.
>>98535930>Mike TrukI really like this one as the name of a mekboy or speed freek.
If red doesn't make things go faster then how come squigs, who are red, run faster than the average boy?Checkmate, humies.
>>98535949>a mekboy or speed freek.Could be both considering Wazdakka Gutsmek constantly tinkers his bike. Name makes me think of a boss that followed on Gutsmek's steps and tinker the fuck out of a Trukk
>>98535823Nigga that's just kamikaze
>>98535803The datasheet?
>>98535900
>>98535982exactly.
>>98535995>Mike Truk>Willie Dustice>Bobson DugnuttHEY! THOSE ARE THE NAMES >>98535930 SAID! >>98535930YOUR A PHONY! A BIG FAT PHONY!
The fact Orks are now a 4+ BS army just feels wrong
>>98535917I'm not American enough to get this one.>>98535926This made me laugh more than it should have, especially as I'm going to give my warboss a big Doug dimmadome hat.>Bobson DugnuttThis could be my big boss
>>98535500The answer is >DO NOT buy 2 boxes>Don't give GW your money >Buy via third party or get them through swap, or just ignore WYSIWYG
>>98535792Newfag here is this the much beloved psychic phase everyone talks about? Or even a rough equivalent?
>>98535938At a glance i thought that was Chancellor Palpatine
>>98535926HeeehhhhehehPerhaps Gognald to fit the Ork theme more
>>98535926Kek I love it
>>98536020No, psychic phase was a literal phase in the turn order. People who played factions/armies without psykers typically didn't like it since they had to stand there and watch the people who did have psykers do all their spells, so they removed the phase and lumped psychic powers in elsewhere
>>98535938I was thinking frontier days to go with their cowboy hats.
>>98535672On a related question what's the deal with vilgilants? They cost the same as an extraction team and have the same stats and weapon options, but no wargear and a worse special rule
>>98536020Nah, psychic levels used to be a thing but the psychic phase was its own separate thing, after moving. This is kind of a mix.
WHERE ARE THE FUCKIN DREAD MOB RULES>Big Mek Dakkarigs are Characters nowI already got two from when Armageddon launched, but now I want to kitbash a Deff Dread and run it as a third Dakkarig and make him the Warboss of /mydudes/
>>98535930Bobson Dugnutt has lived rent-free in my head for years along with Sleve McDichael and Todd Bonzalez
If I were to make a kitbash based on this art, what would be some recommended sets for it? So far I came up with the Fellgor Ravager for the body, AOS/TOW Beastlord for the head, & obviously Tau for the armor parts though I can't find any exactly like this art. The sword I have no clue on. Maybe a Kroot Farstalker? Fellgors come with a chainsword so I can always use that but I dunno if it fits with everything else Tau.
Hope you didn't want to be able to read this.https://gofile.io/d/dvKGlDjr
what faction's the closest to samurai? the T'au?
>>98536012I have mixed feelings about it - Ork shooting lists were already very strong and they've nerfed it in a lot of ways but given more units BS4+ so it's less dependent on detachments and stacking certain unit buffs.
Painting up this big dude. Hopefully Gorkanauts are fun to use in the new codex.
>>98536270There's the Emperor's Shadows that was just samurai space marines but they're not truly official. Otherwise yeah the Tau are the closest next option. Unless you'll settle for mongolians with the White Scars.
Is kaptin badrukk gone?
>>98536289they are official
>>98536293They're in a magazine & that's it.
>>98536286Whole codex looks broken as fuck from the leaks we've seen so far so you should be good.
>>98536294Doesn't matter, they're in an official publication, they're official until something higher in the canon hierarchy contradicts their existence.
>>98536012>There are Eldar units with the same BS as OrksAre we allowed to complain now?
>>98536298No.
>>98536012Kinda the way they had to do it with the changes to cover in 11th. It was either that, let them be a 5+ BS army on paper but a 6+ BS army in actuality, or give them a million ways to strip cover.It's almost like making cover -1 to hit was a terrible idea.
>primarchs are scattered>emperor conquers most of the galaxy without them anywaysSo why the fuck did he make them? Don’t say he did it for gene seed, just look at the gray knights
>>98536313To lead his legions individually. Once he got all the primarchs, he was able to focus on the webway project.
>>98536270Eldar are the real samurai
>>98536319Yeah but why did he need that instead of just conquering the galaxy first then working on the webway projectOr just using human/marine/custodes generals
>>98536319He could have easily promoted competent space marines to lead their respective legions, and if that was too much for one marine, make a leading council or split them. Or send Custodes to lead the legions.
>>98536295There's a lot of hidden nerfs in there. For instance, RIP Snagga Boyz, they kind of suck now.>Hunter profile for Anti-monster/vehicle is... drum roll..>3A 3+ S6 AP-2 D1Also all the character datasheets from armageddon, except for the warboss and weirdboy, were souped up for that set.>No more invuln saves or FnPs from Banners/Painboys>>98536309There's so many sources of improved BS or +1 to hit in this book that I think people are going to have an inflated immediate first impression of the book. That said, there's some cracked shooting shit the likes of which we haven't seen on Orks since like 8th.>Dakkajet firing 36 shots, full rerolls, lethal hits, hitting on 3+.
>>98535792> actual psychic abilitiesWe're moving in the right direction, at least. Hopefully this means my Farseer and Warlock on jetbikes won't be brain dead and forget their "spell" when they decide to get off. Farseer on jetbike has been atrociously bad 10th and also sadly 11th (because index). I can only hope
>>98536270EldarT'au are ChinIndian Armored Core and their pet negros
>>98536323>>98536325He planned for the primarchs to do this from the start. The primarchs being scattered wasn't part of the plan. He had to get them all back so he could put all his focus on the webway as intended. The primarchs aren't just key generals either but warp empowered.
Are we ready for the Golden Age of Ork Shooting
>98536334You really are desperate
>>98536340>Zzap Guns are BS4+ 2A anti-vehicle/monster 4+, devastating wounds, sustained hits 2, rapid fire 2, D4I'm not ready.
>>98536343Iyanden literally has a torii as a symbol and I said nothing wrong about the T'au.T'au'va is literally based on Durga
When will we get a proper CHINESE faction in 40k?
98536375He's right, you ARE desperate
Damn Wartrakk got ruinedNow it's just useful for Speed Freakz, before the debuff was nice in general
>>98536388They put it on the Squigbuggy, for some reason. The "busted" ability feels really niche, though I guess it's basically a 50/50 for an auto-wound for a lot of weapons. Which isn't terrible given how many sources of rokkits we have now too? Yea maybe it's good, actually.
>>98536334Nottu dissu shitto again
>>98536313If you want to give Big E the benefit of the doubt>Create 20, TWENTY, demigods who could rival your best custodes in a 1v1, if not outright win 1v10's>They get scattered by the warp gods and the power of a woman's momentGiven how the HH played out, the emperor had a good reason to not have said 20 primarchs not go unchecked, which wound up being his biggest fuckup because the second he left his 18 primarchs unchecked to focus on the webway project, the Horus Heresy starts to happen.
>>98536270
>Nobz upgraded to 3W>MANz aren't upgraded to 4W
>>98536379Chink here, there are already 40k factions created to be raped.
>>98536406T'au have no melee unit presence, truly unthinkable if they were samurai. I'll accept them as Samurai when they have a melee odachi unit with a good charge bonus
>>98536418Samurai's main weapon was bows and arrows ya dingus
>>98536419In history not in the fantasy, which is what 40K is based on
>>98536415They go up in toughness (and armor) instead, its fineThey might get a beefup extra when they get new models, they look really out of place now
What if 40k but very kid friendly? Not like those 40kforkids books, but turning the game into some cutesy thing for merchandise?Imagine a chibified dreadnought, that would do numbers with girls more than female custodes models
>>98536421Shitposter-kun, I do not kneel
What are the odds we get anything on the tabletop from the wicked and the warped?
Are there any consequences to Dakkarigs being changed to characters?Also I don't really know how to feel about the Warboss detatchment - If I want a really strong Warboss I should take it, but it only makes sense if I'm taking a bunch of different warbosses
>>98536421>In history not in the fantasy, which is what 40K is based onwhat the fuck does that even mean
>>98536428Trazyn definitely needs a refresh because his current model is some dogshit.
>>98536424>that would do numbers with girlsoh boy, just what every hobby needs, more women involved
>>98536431Nothing, this guy is a regular shitposter who's done this whole argument before. That's why I had this pic >>98536406 saved ready to go
>>98536433Considering orikin got a new model, and a new ability directly from the book there's a good chance it might finally happen
>>98536441Imagine being so homo you want your hobbies to all be sausage fests
>>98536326>Snagga Boyz nerfed>Beastboss a worse Warboss>Kill Rig missing Firing Deck and fucking useless outside of Wurrband.>Painboss can finally join Squighogs again but lost FNP and heal is 1/game.They really wanted to fuck over the 9th edition Orks releases didn't they?
>>98536444it's nothing personal, it's just that women are stupid and I don't respect them
>>98536452I gathered you thought as much, incel
>>98536424That's not what girls like. You make the men hotter & angsty to do that.
>>98536456>Implying dreadnoughts aren't the peak of masculinity women want.
>>98536431Things in 40K are based on the fantasy of themselves. Catachans are based on the fantasy of Rambo and Predator not the reality of PTSD and dying in 'nam.Space Marines are based on the thematic fantasy of being a space knight, sword in hand not on the historical realities of being a knight.Eldar are based on a sinophilic fantasy of the samurai as it was brought to the british. Aescetic and disciplined warriors, belonging to a very rigid and ordered society that does not outwardly show emotions.The T'au on the other hand do not embody the fantasy of the Samurai, they instead operate on the fantasy of a mecha suit pilot as filtered through western (british) sensibilties and molded in a way that would allow it to be grafted onto an existing product.
>>98536454incel hobby, board and website, newfag
>>98536465>Things in 40K are based on the fantasy of themselves.shut up
>>98536479No matter how much you niche community retards scream about how 4chan is specifically for you it doesn't make it true, it only makes you newer than me for not having been here long enough to see the breadth and depth of this site
>>98536502>4chan is for everyone
>>98536502no, you're just a retarded reddit faggot and you'll never fit in
>>98536491I'm sorry you can't actually refute my point, but concession accepted
>>98536522that's because your point is pants-on-head retarded
>>98536465Don't forget Ghaz being based on Thatcher and other retarded headcanon.Space marines were based on chaos warriors from wfb, poser.
>>985365154chan is for everyoneWarhammer is for everyone:)>>98536521>le reddit!Keep Q.Qing
I played Warhammer 40,000 earlier this evening AMA
>>98536548Why?
>>98536534Wow, didn't think you'd out yourself that easily
>>98536286>>98536295>>98536449I got a leaked photos of the full ork codex, its not as good as it looks, tons of shit is deceptively nerfed for example grots lost their generate CP ability and orks main weakness of shit anti-tank still looks like bad its all still just a couple of melee attacks with -2 AP and 2 damage. Meanwhile basically any other army can just bring some tank with 4 lascannons slapped on it with -3 AP and D6+1 damageThe detachments suck ass too.War Horde is still sustained hits 1 on melee weaponsGreen tide is warhorde but only applies to boyzBully Boyz is warhorde but only applies to nobz and meganobzDa Big Hunt gives flat out +1 AP for Snagga units when targeting vehicles which is a big buff but feels more boring. They could have just made buffs vs your prey apply for all units not just snaggas.They literally stripped all of the fun rules and chucked everything with stat creep and dumping lethal hits vs infantry everywhere
>>98536549Sunk cost
>>98536568I didn't need to deny anything after your baseless claim
>>98536574>its not as good as it looks, tons of shit is deceptively nerfed for example grots lost their generate CP abilityBecause it's no longer necessary, you get guaranteed extra CP for just taking Ghaz/Nazdred/Wazdakka.>The detachments suck ass too.Because they're mini detachments that you're meant to combine. Every single codex will be like that in 11th, it's not exclusive to orks.You get a bunch of global buffs on top of being currently best army and you still bitch, amazing
>>98536574>War Horde is still sustained hits 1 on melee weapons>Green tide is warhorde but only applies to boyzDo they stack?
I'm still buying the new codex books and giving the old ones to my nephews.
>>98536601Learn to readThe mini detachments are a lot worse than the detatchments they are replacing with way less additive buffsA lot of detachments used to buff most of your army, now they only effect a few unitsE.g, before you could take More Dakka + Dread Mob and get a bunch of buffs for Walkers, Mek Gunz, + any shooting infatry you can attach a mek to + battleline GretchinIf you want that same combo with 11th edition, you would need to take 4 different detatchments - and a lot of the effects are nerfed because they are weaker as a 1dp detatchmentsBully Boyz for example is now 1dp but doesn't give you a second Waaagh for Nobz, which was the only reason you took it.
>>98536601We have good variety now so why the fuck is everything going to be a duplicate of eachother but for different units.>Because it's no longer necessary, you get guaranteed extra CP for just taking Ghaz/Nazdred/Wazdakka.I didn't get photos of a lot of stuff so I actually didnt know this but also 1 extra CP compared to getting 2-3 over the course of a game is a meh tradeoff>and you still bitch, amazingLiterally all I want is for my 4 KMB deff dread to actually kill vehicles like it did in 8th and 9th so I dont get rolled by all tank or knight lists but thats too much to ask for I guess so now im forced to take a couple of specific units in the army to chip vehicles to death and you know damn well orks having a strong codex will last for a week until they get hit with insane nerfs, get powercrept and then never have the nerfs reverted.>>98536615Multiple sources of sustained hits 1 dont stack so no they dont, and also warhorde uses all of your detachment points so it can't be taken with green tide or bully boyz
>>98536622>The mini detachments are a lot worse than the detatchments they are replacing with way less additive buffsNo shit sherlock, it's like that for literally every faction.
>needing to scratch that painting itch>go on ebay to look for cheap warhammies>most stuffs is 50% more expensive than retail and that is already opened and useduuuuuuh why? why is it cheaper to buy new warhammies?
>>98536632>I didn't get photos of a lot of stuff so I actually didnt know this but also 1 extra CP compared to getting 2-3 over the course of a game is a meh tradeoffIt's extra CP in your command phase if "Da Boss" (Ghaz/Waz/Naz) is your warlord so it's 5 extra ones.
>>98536640Ok I take it back thats actually insanely broken
>>98536286Head looks sick
>>98535066He is a credible source. He is retarded, with a terminal marinebrain, to the point he is a complete lorelet to an insane degree, which shouldn't be physically possible for anyone who interacts with this setting so muchBut all of this doesn't matter. He doesn't have to be smart, he is just a vessel to forward information. He has someone at GW telling him what will happen, which is why he leaks stuff correctly all the time
>>98536548Faction? Enemy? Did you win? Pics?Who is hotter, prime Shakira or prime Britney?
>>98536692Death Guard (Priority Assets)World Eaters (Purge the Foe)I won 72-58No pics, I'm not chronically on my phone enough to think to do that.Not really into either, but if I had to choose one, Shakira.
>>98536548Who is hotter Haru Yuuki or Rin Kokonoe?
>>98535046I can't wait desuall the worst, fattest, smelliest grogs are about to wail, seethe and shit their pants in rage and finally leave the hobbyit's going to be so great
>>98536723Rin clears
>>98536723Nonce poster.
>>98535046About time, the whole firstborn primaris shit was retarded to begin with, and the older marks will just be reintroduced as bits or come back as truescale for the scouring.Anyone who isnt a pants pissing secondary sees this as a win.
>>98536574Pigeonholing Snaggas into anti-vehicle when they're slugga/choppa just feels like the most fucktarded move GW has ever pulled. And then they raped the Beastboss by rolling his weapons into a single profile that only gets special rules against vehicles.
>>98536574>Grots lost the CP generation ability>EVERY warboss gets CP generation as a warlord trait>You can only ever generate 1 CP per turn anyway>Spinning this as a nerfyou might be retarded
>>98536574Oh, don't forget you need Wurrband for +1 S for every model in the unit on psychic attacks, when it should A: Be part of the Unstable Energies rule considering there's a fuckton of empty space on the page below it and that's how Ork psykers have worked since Rogue Trader.B: Been ork models within 6". It does fuckall for Kill Rig with it's fucking 11 model transport capacity.
>>98536738Pedo website, you don't belong
>>98536795Oh, and they deleted the Wurrboy profile so you can't add psykers to Beast Snagga units, and you can't give DBH/Wurrband enhancements to the Kill Rig because it doesn't have the character keyword for some fucking reason.
>>98536313>So why the fuck did he make them?He didn't. That was a retcon by the church. The primarchs were just impressive warlords from notable worlds he conquered over hundreds of years, given troops and titles in exchange for service. The official story isn't supposed to make sense.
Playing against Orks is going to be hell. They have so many abilities and alternate firing modes that you're never going to know if your opponent is just making shit up when they roll (or say they don't have to roll).
>>98536313>answer the question >but don't use the correct answer!grey knights needed the whole process to have been refined before they could be done
>>98536860It will 100%. The datasheet and rule bloat in this game is fucking insane with basic units having 15 weapon profiles and multiple abilities on top.
Are Warbosses bad now?
>>98536891Any kind of definitive assessment like this is going to have to wait for points
>>98536891No? They're giving a unit 5++ and advance+charge every turn
>>98536860Or you could... you know, play with people who don't cheat?Most of the alt firing modes are just combi weapons so either shoota or a rokkitFlash gits have melta, plasma, or their old firing modeMost of the different weapon profiles are uniform across the codex so it's not hard to learn themMANZ for example gained a new firing mode that's just torrent within 6" + close quaters so they can fire in melee. It's a nice little fluffy rule and it's not that difficult to remember - the weapon profile is still the same.
>Orks get 3 new datasheets with Armageddon >Orks going from 57 back to 54 datasheets with CodexIs this it? Is this where orks peak? Is 54 the line in the sand GW has drawn that they don't want this codex to get more bloated than?
>>98536891Mega Armour warboss got buffed considerably - even more so as he benefits from MANZ getting -1AP to all attacksWarboss profile seems pretty much the same though
>>98536916I'm sure it's manageable for Ork players once they put in enough study to see the repeated concepts. If you play a wide variety of randoms then learning every faction and knowing who sucks to play against just isn't practical.
My prediction: Orks will have a cracked shooting combo with 3 1DP detachments and then they'll all get put to 2DP and ork shooting will be unusable again
>>98532070Kiwianon, but I didn't actually pay that price either. Got them as part of a deal, only paid $20 in total for that plus a greyfax and a plague marine.>>98532083Well I don't see them on the store, and they've got the new boyz kit now, so I think so.Anyway, question still stands.
>>98536848There should be criminal penalties for tertiaries who pull dumb lore "theories" out of their ass for other tertiaries to mistake for fact
>>98536979But anon, that's only because 40k lore theorists never produced entertaining meme characters like pic.
I hate these fucking thingsevery time I pick up one it gets hooked into another and knocks a third one overi gotta keep them close for 9" coherency circle in 11th but they can't go base-to-base because the stupid fucking wingsfuck i hate them
>>98536979I'm literally Rick Priestly, bro.
>>98537007Why use them? I always thought they were bad models.
40k fans be like>holy fuck, they went all-out this year, this terrain is INSANE
>>98536848Why do you lie on the internet?
>>98534110Don't conflate primaris fags and SM players. It's like conflating mobile games with PC/consoles.
Do not reply to the manlet.
>>98534142>Personally I'm waiting for the time when 3rd-7th marines are seen as cool as retro as RT/2e ones are today.That time is now.>>98534495>mkX is proper bascinetDo you even know what a fucking bascinet is?
>page8>over 600 replies>no new thread
>>98537013Silver lining is that every mini is painted
>>98537013I can kind of understand it at big tournaments where they need to have like 500 tables set up (and they now need to rearrange the terrain every game based on matchup) but a LGS should have no excuse. They should always have nicer quality terrain readily available for each of their tables.
>>98537032>not at image limit
>>98536891Regular warbosse/MA warboss are good. Beastboss on squigosaur is a monster with lone op so you can hide them behind squighogs and then shove them out of the way when charging. Beastboss on foot only worth it for getting a second Riled Up a turn. The second they errata Intimidating Motivation and Keep Huntin' can't be used in the same turn they're getting shelved for the edition.
>>9853701210 bodies with deepstrike, OC2, move 12, advance d6, shoot anything then used "winged swarm" ability for another 6" of movement in the shooting phase, for the same price as a single lictorI play recon and they're so fast I can't give them upyes they die if anything breathes on them but they do everything I want them to do in one turn
>>98537038>on an imageboard>not posting an image
>>98537005Why can't 40k theorists get entertaining levels of autism and produce content like this?
>>98537045here (You) go
Why does every weapon these days have about four KEYWORDS after it like TORRENT ANTI-INFANTRY CLEAVE YOUR MUMwhy not just balance things in the actual weapon profile????
>>98537043Another way to look at it, they're termagants with a 2 point per model "upgrade" that gives them deepstrike, double movement, and 6" of free movement after shooting, in exchange for 1 worse armor saveThat's worth considering depending on what you plan for termagants wasBut fuck the models suck, ii hope they get refreshed along with the carnifex and warriors
>>98536918Lootas and Burnas got pulled so they could sell them back to us as a weird numbered killteam unit and drive Kill Team FOMO. Shokkjump Dragsta and Megatrakk Scrapjet got pulled because someone on the design team is an asshole.
Is Mek in Mega armor good now?
>release a special character to lead a speedwaagh army>update the bikes and release another wartrakk>squat two of the buggies and shrimplify all the other profiles I don't get it, 9 units is not an unmanageable amount for a subfaction
>>98537087>squat two of the buggiesIs this legit or are ork players crying over nothing like usual?
>>98537091>Is this legityes>crying over nothing like usualthat's guardfags
>>98536848Sorry that they hate you for coming up with more interesting lore than 65 books of slop ever did.
>>98537053Wasn't sustain hits originally a necron-unique thing?This is what pisses me the most desu, every faction has every rule now. Everyone has move shot move, reactive moves, advance+charge, fallback and do shit, go back to reserve, respawn models etc.It's like mixing every color when you were a kid, everything is the same vaguely brown slop.
>>98537103You're thinking of Tesla.
Losing lootas is a bigger hit than some same looking cars being consolidated into single datasheet.
>>98535818Badgutz da third Ghargkart. He got his name by killing the other two Badgutz when the two WAAAGH Badgutz ran into each other. He got the title Ghargkart because his motivation is to build the largest buggy there's ever been. Currently it's about the size of a hive on wheels.
>>98537110People are expecting lootas to come back soon enough, while there's zero chances of the funny cars getting brought back.
>>98537103>Wasn't sustain hits originally a necron-unique thing?Dire Avengers have had it since 8e introduced Exarch upgrades.
I'm trying to find the name of a mini, but at this point I think I must've dreamt it>female>masked face>tight leather costume>long hair going up (i believe it was an action shot of her falling down a pillar)>assassin archetype>not a grunt unit, of of those >30€ individually packed minisDoes that ring any bells or am I going insane?
>>98535818My main Warboss in MA has always been Warboss Lootkruncha, and my speed boss (picrel) is dubbed Boss Speedwagon (same name as his car because it's such a good name he had to use it twice). Not sure if those are orky enough but they suit my bosses well.
>>98537119And necrons have had it since 5th Ed.
>>98537150Callidus Assassin
>>98537156YES!That's the one, thanks dude.
>>98537150Callidus Assassin from the Officio Assasinorium, an Imperial Agents unit
>ORIKAN WITH THE STEEL CHAIR
If Firstborn is really being squatted in the next SM codex as per the rumours, what does that mean for Scouts? Do they count as Firstborn? Are they going too?
>>98537178new primaris scouts kit
>>98537151more like warboss LE ECKS DEE XDXD
>>98537110its pretty fucked desu, granted the really old lootas just had weapon profiles from whatever they were looted from, losing something so iconic is actually horrid for the gamelosing both the dragsta and scrapjet is rough too, those are some really cool looking models & the dragstas were almost essential to a speed freeks army as they could teleport and shoot in the same turn
I do not like the Meganobz change.
>>98537091having shit squatted randomly is always going to cause an outcry and rightfully so, particularly if said person was planning on running those units in their army. i have sympathy for any army that loses units for no fuckin reason
>>98537060Wait, I thought new Nobs and new Meganobs were both supposed to be Kill-Team releases. You're telling me they have three Ork teams in the pipeline?
>>98537178We already got primaris scouts, twice.
>>98537202what did they change? i havent seen it yet>>98536918tbf it was probably worse last edition, we lost a shit tonne of units when the codex came out. the only fw unit that survived was the squiggoth from memory>>98537060its possible but i have a feeling that burnas and lootas are gone for good>>98537205man i cant wait for some shitty kill team release where we have to buy a box and try find someone to split the other side with, and then wait fucking months to get a standalone box that costs a fucking fortune oh gee so good. i should probably just quit playing this game this shit is pissing me off too much
>>98537205New Nobs are 100% a Killteam release based on the images they showed off and the fact they said they'd be coming "later" than the codex release wave. Meganobs might be a year or two down the road, we just got the Wrecka Crew last year and if the nobs are releasing this year I imagine it'd be the next most immediate KT release with some other faction, and Meganobs not until late 2027 at the earliest.
>>98537217>what did they change?The new ability reduces the AP of attacks against them by 1.
>>98534821>no more +1 hit rolls, no more +4 attacks during the waagh>that replacement abilityquite decent desu, although strength 14 attacks seems a little excessive. should be damage 3 at that point. im not sure if making both melee profiles have the same amount of attacks is the right play here though, i can see the appeal behind the choppa with cleave but everyone will probably just continue to take the power klaw. also does anyone know if nobz with klaws still hit on 4s? that +1 to hit could be a huge loss otherwise>>98534887it didnt do much but it was still fun rolling those 2 attacks after everything else
>>98537224im guessing that replaces the 5+ fnp during the waagh ability. adds a bit of survivability i guess
mentioning the kill team boxsets, has anyone here managed to get a box where they collect both armies that the units are from in it? i doubt they will release an ork & gsc one anytime soon
>>98537007these were essential in final day due to the catalyst aura but now they got rid of the deep strike, shoot and move combo they are quite shit
>>98537232Yes. Striking Scorpions vs Scouts. It was a pretty good deal.It's not that hard if you play marines.
>>98537203My local club plays with Legends allowed. I can still enjoy fielding my Big Mek with KFF granting cover which is even better now than it's been since 5th.
>>98537239thats true, playing marines + any xenos faction its bound to happen at some point
>>98537243wait is that what it does now? i thought it just gave the unit a 5+ inv. no idea why that was moved to legends desu
>>98536340Welcome back, relics. Wish they were like before though and every single detachment had some.
>>98537053They're 1-*2* per unit instead of 3? Weird choice
>>98537053It's fine, special ruled are intended to represent characteristics of weapons beyond strength, ap and damage. They just need to make sense.
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>>98536340>12A with a plasma weapon profile and lethal hits>mfw>no face as we have hit image limit
>>98537258it would be shithouse trying to keep 3 of these things in coherency tbf
>>98533543Eradicators with heavy bolters is just incoherent. They couldn't even keep the concept of rifle + heavy weapon consistent for a unit type. There is just zero quality control on marine units.
>>98537265We used to be allowed to at least try and make such choices ourselves
>>98537178They got new models in a Kill Team. Primaris still use Scouts and go through companies, nothing changed. They simply have more gear to select from.
>>98537232Sisters of Battle vs. Tau.
