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So I have found some time to run a grudge match. As anons asked for it this time it'll be set in 3067 with Marians versus the Magistracy. It'll be ran via megamek to ensure no user bias on a 32x34 map. This one is a bit different from last time I've ran it so please read carefully as it has some special instructions to follow. I am also not intending to do this live as in cover each turn in full this time.

Background: Its the late 3060s and the Marians have been chancing their luck against the Magistracy of Canopus. Most raids have been successful as the Magistracy has had its eyes mainly on the NCR so the Marians are expecting relatively green and inexperienced forces. This raid however they are unaware they are about to clash against veterans from Operation Bulldog. Will the Marians succeed and return home with valuable slaves and plunder or will the Canopians hold their ground?

Attackers: Marian Raiding Party
Maniple - 10 mech slots

>How to roll
Put “dice+8d6” without quotes. First two values determine weight. Second two values determine mech. Remaining values treat as a 4d6 for a typical pilot roll as per pic.
>Where's the RAT?
See the following post. I'll put an example for a mech and character roll on this as well.

Defenders: 1st Canopian Cuirassiers
Nova – 5 mech slots, 5 elemental slots

>How to roll
For a mech roll a “dice+2d1000” without quotes to determine mech, 1-300 is light, 301-700 is medium, 701-900 is heavy and 901+ is assault. For your character skills see attached pic however add a +2 to your gunnery roll and a +2 to your piloting roll.

For an elemental use attached pic and add a +2 to your gunnery roll and +2 to your piloting roll. Piloting roll will be translated to anti-mek skill. Each character is essentially a squad leader.
>Where's the RAT?
3050 Smoke Jaguar
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zdswz4c2avek6oing7pyk/3028-3057-Random-Assignment-Rarity-Tables-10.64.pdf?rlkey=s8ywj7tonnw87cgn1n2n7bf0b&e=1&dl=0

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>>98543807
As I don't fancy giving the Marians all 3025 trash I'm using the RAT from field manual updates. How it works is that you roll an 8d6 where the first two figures are the weight, second two figures are mech and rest are for character skills. For the first roll anything between 2-4 is a light, 5-8 is medium, 9-10 heavy and 11+ assault.

For example. I rolled a 2, 3, 6, 6, 6, 6, 2, 5 in a practice. This means I got a 5 which means my mech weight is medium. Followed by a 12 which means its the Vindicator 3L. Then I got another 12 that means my pilot is elite. Then the 2 means my gunnery skill is 3 and 5 means my piloting skill is 2. Therefore I'd put this as:

VND-3L Vindicator, “Posca” 3/2

This is an example character by the way I won't use them unless there are slots leftover after a week.

FAQ
>When is the cutoff and when does this start?
Cutoff is next Friday and I'll run this next weekend.

>Can I reroll my mech/characters?
Mech no. Character yes but you must keep the result. Try to keep this to a minimum.

>What if there are extra slots available can I submit more than one?
Preferably one slot per anon however if there are slots by mid next week feel free to roll another. Otherwise I'll roll the empty slots myself.

>I'm a namefag can I submit myself as a character?
No. This is to make the focus about the character not the person and part of the fun is meant to be inventing someone.

>Some of your maths doesn't seem to add up?
I have fudged the numbers slightly to make it more interesting

>Is this meant to be fair?
No, but I have tried to playtest a little to see if I can make it a little more balanced.

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Rolled 2, 3, 3, 5, 3, 5, 4, 6 = 31 (8d6)

>>98543807
For the Iris Caesar! TOGA! TOGA!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18eaNSxhK5c

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>>98543728
Really should have named the thread Boss of the Butte Hold edition.

>>98543828
>HBK-5H Hunchback
>Regular 4/4
>All the rockets

Rock and roll. Legionnaire Larry Lipscomb was found on an abandoned periphery colony world by Marian forces during exploration of dead worlds rimward of the Hegemony. The men who picked him up were looking for SL caches of germanium to relive a piece of their legendary beginnings. Captured and enslaved, his natural piloting aptitude quickly moved him from piloting constructionmechs to the gladiator pits. Needing an extra hand, the current raiding party called him back from the planet Hardcore to lend his mech and skills.

To his eyes, he's living a real life isekai adventure, and he's off to do the first thing from his forgotten world's own LN's, get a genuine beast girl slave, whether she exists or not. Outside that, everything he loves is more mech with more gun.

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>>98544116
I feel it needs a miniature top hat.

Rolled 3, 2, 5, 2, 6, 3, 3, 6 = 30 (8d6)

>>98543807
Parta victoria cuncta ipsis cessura et ceteram, rolling for Marians

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>>98544165
10000 hours in paint

>>98544227
Medium, 7..... uhhhh WTH-1H Whitworth
You don't get more Marian than mass Rocket Launchers
Pilot should be a 4/4
Mirabelle Ren isn't the best Mechwarrior: she herself admits that her skills are merely average, and her knack is more in the technical side of things. She nonetheless managed a solid if unremarkable performance in previous forays: even if no one exactly knows when and how she got onboard. Maintains that she was born in "Detroit", whatever that it. Clearly not a low-tier Blakist spy

Rolled 1, 5, 2, 4, 2, 1, 4, 5 = 24 (8d6)

>>98543807
Rolling for Marians as well

>>98544269
Beautiful.

>>98544286
>4/6 green pilot in a standard Phoenix Hawk
This will be our boy Lucius Quintus' first combat mission. I am sure he will do fine.
I can't believe I rolled a Phoenix Hawk PHX-1 again

>>98543807
Wait, so how does Canopian rolling work?

>>98544351
If it's any consolation, I'm pretty sure PHX-1 is a contender for most RAT appearances of any mech, along with the basic bugs that still show up through Ilclan.

>>98544351
How does it feel to be the eternal Phoenix Hawk lad?
>>98544364
2d1000, first number determines weight. Second number determines mech.

>>98544374
>Wherever the prey appears so does its predators
It makes sense and this is the ass end of nowhere

Rolled 617, 685 = 1302 (2d1000)

>>98544414
>2d1000, first number determines weight. Second number determines mech.
But how do we determine Skill?

>>98544437
4d6 as per the pic plus modifiers?

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>>98544414
Not great chief, can't even roll good piloting to kick things when I overheat.

Rolled 2, 3, 1, 1 = 7 (4d6)

>>98544446
>685
So a Ryoken (Stormcrow) B....

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Rolled 530, 56 = 586 (2d1000)

>>98543807
>>98543809
Well shit, if you're going to just let the girls have all the fun, I guess I can roll up one of them. Her name is Amelia "Bengal" Devereaux. Let's check that mech first.

>>98544460
So in this case you rolled a green pilot, the 1+2= 3 so it would be a 5/6 pilot. Not going to lie that was a really bad pilot roll.

Rolled 1, 6, 2, 4 = 13 (4d6)

>>98544467
Looks like she gets Dragonfly (Viper). Time for those stats.

>>98544475
Amelia "Bengal" Devereaux, Dragonfly(Viper), 4/4

>>98544474
>Not going to lie that was a really bad pilot roll.
Yep...

>>98544491
Mean could reroll if you want. Not like going to be any worse?

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>>98543904
>I could have used this opportunity to roll a monster girl
What a waste

>>98544491
5/6 is the actual worst a pilot can roll with the +2 modifier. I'm sure the other girls in the squad would have a wonderfully catty callsign for her. Afterall, why does this clumsy bitch get a Ryoken?
>>98544446
Welcome to the pain of anons never understanding how to read and do basic rolling.
>>98544451
Using up your dice roll luck in my game.

Rolled 6, 1, 3, 4 = 14 (4d6)

>>98544500
>Mean could reroll if you want. Not like going to be any worse?
Sure.

>>98544531
>why does this clumsy bitch get a Ryoken?
She knows who to eat out

>>98544547
That's a 3/4 Ryoken now, armed with a UAC20.

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>>98544484
So Amelia can do a full 8 hex jump and alpha strike and still not gain a single point of heat. Neat!
>The maximum damage she can do is 26, 4 of which is Machine Guns and 8 of which assumes a full cluster roll on an SRM4.
Boo!
>AMS
Ugh, fine! She'll be a team player.

>>98544622
Mechs that jump less far and do less damage are called OP

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Rolled 1, 2, 6, 6 = 15 (4d6)

>>98543807
Rolling for Chunk Smoke Jaguar.

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HONOR THE DRAGON!

>>98544746
So a 3/4 Elemental. Isn't that completely bog standard? Well, at least he's large.

>>98544622
Considering the rockets that AMS might come in handy?
>>98544746
>A 3/4 green pilot
Can't make that shit up.

>>98544757
A 3/4 green Elemental who somehow ended up as a point commander despite being a bondsman in a periphery military clear across known space from his clan.

>>98544506
"The Canopian catgirls are REAL, Centurion!"

>>98544942
They could be if they let me reroll

>>98544967
You are allowed one character reroll, just not a machine reroll.

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Wonder why Clan fails but Mercs sell

>>98544994
I want to switch to the opfor as well

>>98545010
That's a different RAT and different machine, so probably need to ask the boss.

>>98545009
I feel like the free roam campaign mode with only side quest plots is what most people play Mechwarrior for. Does Clans even have one of those?

>>98545009
Mercs versions of games have always been the best, ever since MW2:Mercenaries.

>>98543807
So I haven't really participated in these before, how does this sort of thing work? Do the anons who roll up the pilots play this in megamek later or do you just run it with what we rolled and then let us know the results afterwards?
If it's the latter I can roll up a Canopan mechwarrior.
Also did I read that correctly that we're using the Smoke Jaguar RAT for the Canopans?

>>98545010
Can null your character if you want? Or in this case I'll allow a second character this early just this once?
>>98545049
It's the latter and yes they're using the Smoke Jaguar RAT. Canopians actually do have Clan tech thanks to taking part in Operation Bulldog.

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>>98545009
From what's come up in the big ol' interview that Russ Bullock did over on NoGutsNoGalaxy, Clans was mainly fucked by being on gamepass which gave them basically nothing. MW5M gets them recurrent spending over and over every DLC because there's a solid core of players in the tens of thousands who just keep on coming back for it.
The quality or style of Clans didn't affect too much, people played it, but they mostly played it on gamepass and were done with it. There's a few other factors in there like timing of release and advertising not being enough but the big one is simply it was on gamepass so hardly anyone bought it in the first place, leaving no install base, so there wasn't any point continuing expansion releases for it for people to go back for.

People showed big time for the clans stuff in Mercs as well so it's not that clans themselves are a problem either.

>>98545185
Null my character roll for the Canopians.

>>98545232
Which character are you for reference?

>>98545239
Quintus
>>98544286
>>98544351

Rolled 1, 4, 4, 3 = 12 (4d6)

>>98543807
Give me the Elemental Clarissa Smoke Jaguar, who is one deployment away from solahma.

>>98545267
>4/6
She's first on the Fire Moth and going after whatever has the most PPCs.

>>98545283
Bold of you to think the enemy even has PPCs

Fedcom civil war is peak.

>>98545304
There's a lot of people who think it is all about Davions and Steiner but there's actually a lot of interesting stuff going on in the 3060s especially in the Periphery often involving some Blakist shenanigans.

>>98545335
The 3060s are neat as a backdrop to set your own stories against. The main story isn't too great though. 3150s have the same problem and virtue

>>98545267
>>98545283
With those stats, she already was solahma but they assigned her to a recently powerwashed BA because the officer in charge doesn't know a solahma from a ristar and saw 8'3" and "infantry" on her file.

>>98543807
dice+8d6
death to catgirls

>>98545351
Goes in the options field.

Rolled 6, 6, 6, 5, 6, 1, 6, 3 = 39 (8d6)

>>98545351
>>98545361
fuck the catgirls are winning already

>>98545347
Clearly, he didn't realize the Elementals will have sex with you if you just ask and don't need to be bribed with Battle Armor.

>>98545366
What a roll

>>98545366
They put their ace in an Enforcer, funniest shit I've ever seen.

>>98545421
Dummy. He said the first dice are for the mech roll and then the pilot roll. That's not a 1/2 Enforcer, it's a 3/5 Victor.

>>98544474
it's actually a 6/7 the second 2d6 determine final skill as seen here>>98543807

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>>98545451
+2

>>98545451
nvm I didn't see that canopians get +2 to their rolls

>>98545366
>Legionnaire Gaius Maximus Chaddus
>Victor
>Regular xp
>3/5

The filter had only slipped for a moment but it was enough for Legionnaire Gaius Maximus Chaddus to learn the truth. The canopian catgirl he had spent months e-dating was revealed to be nothing but a 400lb male neckbeard covered in acne and cheeto dust. Gaius had been catfished for the third time. Tears streamed down his face as his thoughts drifted to the cruel mockery he'd endured from his fellow mechwarriors. They had called him an idiot for thinking that a beautiful catgirl would be interested in a minor noble like him. They told him that he should settle down and marry a femboy like every other self respecting heir to a Marian house. But Gaius refused to listen. Now their words struck deep into his broken heart like an ac/20 coring the central torso of a centurian.

With his family's reputation in tatters Gaius had no choice but to withdraw from public life. After countless nights spent hiding in the basement of his mother's villa sustained only by the chicken tenders she prepared for him he recieved a piece of anonymous intel. The same neckbeard who had catfished him was sighted answering a call for canopian mercenaries in a comnet channel called "/btg/". No doubt continuing the charade by using the engagement to find other other innocent Marian bachelors to prey upon.

A whirlpool of emotions swirled through Gaius as he enlisted to attack on the opposite side. Anger... Shame... Disgust... and something he didn't want to admit to himself. Warm memories of late night rendezvous online and a longing for the intimacy he'd lost. Why does he still have these feelings towards her in spite of everything that happened? Gaius knew that the only way to learn the answer was to climb into the cockpit of his ancestral victor and face down his former love in the fire of battle.

Rolled 6, 2, 4, 1, 1, 5, 1, 1 = 21 (8d6)

>>98543807
BROTHERS!!! I CALIDUS CANIS SWEAR WE SHALL CONQUER CATGIRL GAUL!!!

>>98545516
>fodder in a Hunchback

Rolled 246, 754 = 1000 (2d1000)

>>98545185
Alright then I'm gonna roll for one of our longhoused Jaguar mechwarriors

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>>98545535

Rolled 4, 3, 4, 2 = 13 (4d6)

>>98545558
>Puma B config
I see he's going to be plinking at range, then
let's see what skills he has and I'll make a name & brief description.

>>98545535
CORRECTION SIR, I AM FODDER IN A PARTYBACK!

>>98545304
There is no such thing as FCCW.
The FedCom in the year of Our Lord 3145 is ruled by Empress Steiner-Davion-Kurita. Alongside their stauch allies the DC, they guard the Inner Sphere against the ongoing insurgency from WoB guerillas and terror cells, and stand against the rampaging hordes of clanner insanity. Republic, disarmament? No such thing. In fact all world's had to dramatically militarise against the rise of possible WoB and clan raids anywhere at any time.

>>98545421
Build a classic enforcer with full clantech and watch it fuck everything dead.
5/8/5 cxlfe, clbx10 or cuac10 and a cerllas? Fucking NOICE. Run and jump around at full speed bounding from cover throwing out jabs with the left, and then roundhouse, uppercuts or haymakers with the the right. One two, one two. Fucking gnarly.

>>98545653
Someone made me an enforcer 2c for my bday the sheet was posted here. I'm not at home to share tho, was 45 tonner 5/8/5 2 HML ERLL forgot the rest.

>>98545653
For one you can make anything a threat with enough clantech, for two I mistook it as the basic bitch 3025 Enforcer with tin foil for back armor.

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>>98545657
I still had the image in my old Megamek install, here.

>>98545662
Thats my point. In the era of 3145, muh 'ilclan' everyone has had what, a century? For clantech to proliferate. YOUR favourite mech, and everyone else's favourites should all have full clantech fuckawesome.versions by now, so that YOU can keep using your beloved...uh I dunno, Enfield mini? And have it be great on table. So that Dave over there can still use his beloved charger, now with actual weapons!

Instead we have a wierd hodgepodge of this facrion gets two or three classics as full clantech, that faction gets 2 others...

>>98545576
>>98545576
>>98545558
>>98543807
>4/6 pilot
Well it could certainly be worse
Mechwarrior Chester Smoke Jaguar had always felt more comfortable standing his ground instead of trying to outmaneuver his foes. This made him an adequate gunner but a rather inflexible mechwarrior. During the battle of Luzerne, this unfortunate habit led him to be taken captive by the SLDF forces, and eventually passed off into Canopian custody.
As a bondsman, Chester begrudgingly carried out his duties for his new masters (mistresses?) in the MAF. His attitude shifted one day, however, when he happened to accompany his makeshift star-mates to a Canopian den of iniquity. Therein he happened upon one of the Canopian catgirls, whose furred portions happened to have the coloration and patterning of Clan Smoke Jaguar's eponymous feline.
Chester has never been the same, and is now one of the Magistracy's most loyal warriors. He will stand and defend this paradise against all barbaric raiders who might wish to steal its delicious fruits.

>>98545671
Awesome thanks anon. I've used it a few times since in Table Top night, aside my bad rolls it's really a nice cav unit.

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So if most of the warships yards were destroyed durring the Jihad, why none of the Successor States jumped pocket warships wagon, especially dracs and lyrans since they've had to deal with Clans warships all the time? Something like mobile missile boats equiped with few salvos of capital missiles lurking near the jump points to engage arrived warships or cargo ships with equipment (since even clanners cannot attach a McKenna class to each convoy):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqDcnwrsq6U

>>98545978
The great houses lost the ability to produce warships during the succession wars

>>98546025
But they regained it after Helm's memory core

>>98545978
The Regulans had an entire fleet of pocket warships and actual warship and were using it to be a regional menace until the writers needed them to lose and wrote them losing as if they didn't have the fleet at all. Most of the inner sphere warship and pocket warship fleets have mysteriously stopped appearing or mattering in a similar manner.

>>98546047
certainly not because HERB is a faggot who hates navy anything.

>>98546051
If it was an issue clanners also would lose their ships

>>98545192
Feels like cope. Clans has pretty poor reviews because it's MW5 without the good bit and everyone had to start modding again from scratch, and these games are very firmly not worth playing without mods. Gamepass didn't make the people who did buy feel conflicted about its quality.

To be frank they just shouldn't have made it and they should've seen this coming, at best this should've been a standalone dlc campaign in mercs. It's very obvious that the mercs structure keeps 5 alive and if you take it out you're just rawdogging their shitty premade missions with zero difficulty balance back to back. Though it's not even just the formula, people were criticizing the writing and the mission structure as well. It's genuinely just a big fumble.

>>98545978
The Kuritans did jump on the PWS wagon and built lots of the Nekohono'o

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>>98546102
You left out how much of a mess it was at launch too. There's only so many times you can put up with the game crashing in the same mission before you've just had enough and uninstall it. I've heard it's better now and I even went back once to try it again and I got past the level that kept crashing, but I just don't really care about the game anymore.

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>>98546102
You ain't gonna catch me defending them, PGI are just a pretty shitty company, this has been apparent for so many years. They really do put in minimum effort, and blame it on the economics every time. Other studios that actually give a shit have done way more on less even without burning themselves out.
I mean to sum it up in a single choice they made: the fact that they picked only a tiny deviation away from John Smith as the name for their main character and gave him the most generic dead dad plot going in MW5M shows how completely fucking devoid in imagination and how risk adverse they are. Fucking Spectre from MW4M has more going for him and he's barely anything but a voice.

The only reason they're doing a Mech Commander next (all but confirmed), other than yet more expansions for Mercs, being inevitably Operation Bulldog and maybe serpent at a push or they might just skip to fedcom civil war because fuck it serpent would mean moving away from what they've already built for a bit, is because doing an RTT is really, really fucking cheap and there's basically no competition in the market. They can re-use everything, make it yet another mercs system, it won't need to have any kind of improved graphics (not that anyone is running better hardware anymore), and they can churn it out quickly. They are lazy, dispassionate, slopmongers. And it'll sell because the same idiots that buy every mech pack for MWO and day 1 buy every DLC for MW5 will also turn up and buy it. And their minimum viable product wages will be good for another couple of years.

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>2 flavors of bad guys
>comically genocidal asians
>comically conniving asians
>clan invasion
>chance to do something different with new era
>new bad guys are murderous psychopaths ruled by black people
what did fasa mean by this?

>>98546275
Battletech is heavily rooted in 80s yellow peril. Note that while Showers was black, the Clans still are overtly asian with all the Mongolian terms

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>>98546297
>, the Clans still are overtly asian with all the Mongolian terms

>>98546397
They're still ruled by a Khan who's in charge of the Touman

>>98546413
Yeah they basically took 3 words from mongols
Khan
Touman
Kurultai
The rest they are Star League (Americano-Russians)

>>98546419
The point I'm making is that the mongolian words are there to mark them as bad guys, because battletech is 80s yellow peril.

>>98546424
There is also at least one hebrew word (sayla) with plenty of jewish blood names (but a very few asians) and even more english words (aff, neg, quiaff/-neg, safcon, dezgra, chalcas etc)

>>98546430
Syllabic abbreviation is also very eastern (and Soviet). Politburo, Comintern, komsomol, Ingsoc etc inspiring safcon batchall, ristar, bondsref, quineg and the like

3/5/3 or 4/6/0?
4/6/4 or 5/8/0?

>>98546424
>battletech is 80s yellow peril.
I think you're overselling this. The game was made by history nerds, and the Hun and Mongol invasions of Europe are more about "existential threat to our civilization from a horde of strange warrior people" than "oh my god guys, the Japanese are taking our jobs and the Chinese communists have nukes now!"

>>98546496
Jump capable is ALWAYS, 100% of the time, better. There's never a reason not to have maximum jump capabilities.

>>98546527
Explain the Victor then

>>98546496
5/8/3, ideally with three SRM-2s.

>>98546522
Oh. You're that guy.

>>98546522
2/10

What's the (40 and 60 ton) equivalent cursed weight for the Assault class?

>>98546473
>Ingsoc
>eastern (and Soviet).

>>98546473
>Politburo, Comintern, komsomol,
So nothing asian and straight up russian.

>>98546536
I don't have to explain the Victor. It's better with jump jets.

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>>98546616
Russia is Asia, too

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>>98546651
You know for asians they like to talk about muh christianity, muh rome, muh byzantine a bit too much.

>>98546651
Damn Janos looks like a fucking chudjak in the 2994 pic
>The Free Worlds League has fallen
>Billions must be nuked

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>>98546722
Janos was The Dude until the Thomas backstab

>>98546735
I quite like Janos' custom rifleman

>>98546722
That's what piloting a Rifleman does to you.
It's kinda weird that he's the only one there who was already in charge during the before pic. He had been Captain-General for three or four years by then.

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>>98546770
>>98546772
Rifleman Chads, rise up!

How many Spider themed 'Mechs outside of the Spider? Had a dumb idea of making a Merc company themed off of Spiderman because some guy found a cache with a bunch of that style of 'Mechs and decided to commit to the bit.

>>98546822
Tarantula

>>98546822
Venom is basically a super-Spider, and is named after a Spiderman villain.

>>98546822
Spider, Tarantula, Venom (what if Spider, but big?), and Bishamon (what if big Spider, but bigger? And quad?)

>>98546822
Scorpion?

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>>98546822
Tolva

>>98545630
>The Victor wasn't a cuck and married Omiko Kurita timeline.
This would be legit a fun AU.

>>98546187
>PGI doing mechcommander
That would be a clusterfuck of epic proportions. PGI can't into scripting or mission design. Designing a good RTT requires someone with good imagination to design levels and campaigns, PGI has demonstrated repeatedly they have nobody with that capability working for them.

>>98546586
40 and 60 tons aren't as cursed as you'd think especially once lostech is involved. 40 tons in particular the curse is just having very bad unoptimized designs since if you made say a 6/9 40 ton Wolfhound it'd be pretty damn strong.
Though if looking to decide on a cursed assault tonnage and assuming introtech for arguments sake then I'd say 90 tons is where it gets a bit sketchy. You can make a 4/6 85 ton mech with reasonable loadout options, you can't do that for 90 tons. You can also make a 3/5/3 85 ton mech with the same available tonnage as a 3/5/3 90 ton mech since 90 tons where you start paying 2 tons per jump jet. So yeah 90 tons is where the maths means it would be more efficient to either go lighter or heavier depending on what you want to do with it.

>>98546778
I really just don't get why people like the Rifleman. Lancelot all the way!

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>>98547088
>I really just don't get why people like the Rifleman. Lancelot all the way!
Rifleman walked so Lancelot could run.

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Is there a Rifleman variant that switches the LLs with ERLLs, and the AC5s with Light AC5s, and basically flips the range bands?
Because that'd be cool

>>98547143
-7N comes close

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>>98546056
That would involve writers trying to be consistent and not resorting to fiat.

>>98547143
sorry, that's mauler 4r. ac2 get swapped for lac5's and the larges for clan er larges.

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>>98546187
Where was a new Mech Commander hinted at?

>>98546496
Depends on mech.
>>98546511
Who cares about IP 40 years ago? Fun fact my great uncle died on the indy. Grandpa basso saw tons of combat and never forgave em. He wasn't a racist just an old timey who saw horrors.

Now even not as racist, yellow peril gave us a great starting from BT.

Basically everyone whos not 1488 or pure SJW can just enjoy BT, faggots like you are well faggots.

>>98547634
NTA, but I think that what anon was getting at is that saying yellow peril is a lot like saying red scare, implying that the threat wasn't actually real so therefore just people being racist, when like you said, it's not. Sure wasn't racist having all the Japanese businessmen investors in my Saturday morning cartoons.

Gothic maps uploaded to the Drop Folder. Now to wait for Cranston to got them to the trove.

And as always, delenda est CGL!

>>98544750
>Don't talk to me or my musuko ever again!

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Saw this just now. If you got 75 bucks + shipping, this could interest you. Artist (John Zeleznik) is offering to sell it signed

facebook com/photo/?fbid=10239888318097733&set=a.10237376775710743

>>98547778
I'm curious because I've never printed a BT map: what do you tell the people at the printers, like what paper format and dimensions do you give them? since I doubt you print it at home (I guess you could but stitching together A2 pages sounds very tedious)

>>98548048
Exactly. I usually bring an official map so the printing shop guys can see what size i am talking about. Cant remember the exact size name, but last time i could get 4 maps in one printing (2x2). I have printed in regular paper or in vinil.

>>98548048
Bringing them an official one to get them to match it is easiest on them and you, yeah

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Whee.

>>98548181
Who are the combatants?

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>>98545009
I'm in the "own all the DLC for 5, never played Clans" crowd.

MW:5 has a pretty robust mod community that generally makes stuff that can work together that keeps up with updates, uploads to the Steam workshop for maximum ease of use. It's a very cozy ecosystem and I was going to wait for Clans to mature somewhat before jumping over there.

Obv that never happened, Clans did not bring anything really besides the first game to feature anything more advanced than 3040s IS tech in 20 years and had a bunch of stumbles early on. The inclusion of boss fights was really awful. The engine that was supposed to be better managed to be worse than the duct taped together abomination that 5 is currently. It would have basically depended on getting drive by purchasers / console kids except it's also the most autistic and unrelatable shit you could start someone off with in the lore.

Once they officially moved the timeline on 5 to the actual Clan Invasion it was pretty much a dead game. People really just wanted Clan tech anyway

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Rolled 1, 2, 6, 6, 5, 3, 3, 1 = 27 (8d6)

>>98543807
They don't want you to know this but the Canopians you see on Holovids are free. I have 38 Canopians back home.

- Marceus "Strabo" McDonald

>>98543807
>>98548297
LDX-2 Brigand
25 tons, two ER ML and four RL-15s... I guess being 4/6 isn't that big a deal, I am pretty sure anything that would be forcing a PSR is going to slag this mech anyway.

Marc McDonald came fresh from Canopian space with a bounty and his disassembled 'mech stashed in a cargo hauler.

Nobody asked where he got his 'mech. Nobody asked about the bounty. He even dodged being sent to a penal unit by volunteering for a front line mission right back where he had come from. Some people would have called him an outlaw before but to him it didn't look too different from the other side. It was all just dust and scorched metal and hoping you pass out with a full stomach when the job is done.

Same as it ever was.

>>98548251
>Ophelia Butte Hold, haha!

>>98547634
You're not a good person.

>>98548520
You don't play BT faggot.

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>>98547517
Same interview with NoGutsNoGalaxy

>>98547088
>That would be a clusterfuck of epic proportions.
Yeah I can't wait to see it drop and it literally just being Mechwarrior 5 missions from a remote camera view. Because it's the laziest most obvious thing for them to do. That's all they'd see it as, just boiled down to simplicity: go over here shoot this thing, go over here, shoot this thing, the mission generator put some units in the way along the way. That's all it is right? Pacing? Varied objectives? Mixed goals? Proper map design that lets the player and the enemy units operate in the way you want them to? Nah fuck it pump it out the random generation machine.

>>98548733
how can pig be stopped

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I likes the rifleman what wears a hat.

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>>98549002
The card game Glass Spider's the only one who ever wore the hat right.

>>98548733
Isn't there already a MC mod for M5?

>>98549335
Yeah, the people behind it have spoken with PGI about it, and that's probably what sold the fuckers on the idea.

>>98548860
Some kind of large pointy stick maybe?

>>98549349
>Yeah, the people behind it have spoken with PGI about it, and that's probably what sold the fuckers on the idea.
Well how good is the Mod?
If Piggy is just passing off other peoples work, those people might have actually put effort into it.

Also had my first encounter with the new Book's Mission System; Can't say I'm a fan since "Extraction" is just One side starts half in the middle and I didn't know "Victory Points" were scored on Unit Battle Value.
Instead of Three 3/5 Pilots and a Fourth 4/5, I could have brought five standard mechs for 6000 or three Upgraded pilots for 2000 a Mech.

>>98549349
>Yeah, the people behind it have spoken with PGI about it
They work for PGI now.
>>98549409
>Well how good is the Mod?
The mod was a proof of concept but not really functional anymore. Even then it was like having a group of braindead AI that struggled to take a legged Locust 2ft in front of them cause PGI can't figure out how to make your pilots improve properly.

>>98549952
>Even then it was like having a group of braindead AI that struggled to take a legged Locust 2ft in front of them
Oof, so these guys aren't improving the AI or anything...

>>98550049
It can't BE improved. Limitation of the engine.

>>98550049
They might but considering that a lot of stuff in Clans was legit a ctrl+f from Mercs I don't think they will.
>>98550110
It can actually. They never finished the scripting that lets them do that. Nothing to do with the engine just PGI's shit coding.

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BTW, have anyone managed to scan this mapset?

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>>98549002
Which one?

Would you rather have a Firebee WAM-B or WI-WAM?

>>98550636
From a purely monetary perspective, the museum piece would be worth more in the Dark Age. I'd sell it and at least get a real bug. Ideally, if I got my pick, I'd grab a Chingchong as the most advanced Firebee.

>>98550807
For whatever reason, a ton of manufacturers decided the primitive 'bee was the way to arm up, and for much less explainable reasons, it's one of the primitives that remained in production and use.

>>98550825
Weird. I knew the primitive Toro stayed in production past the Jihad, but I always assumed the Firebee got canned like the Mackie.

Now I kinda want one in my Regulans...

>>98549326
>Not the Unseen IIC 1
The Humble Boatman remains the best.

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>>98548860

>Omen 2

Anybody ever run one of these things before? It has HarJel III, which I have never used before, but it sounds absolutely silly to have a mech that regenerates health every turn.

I *have* used the Omen (Standard) before but I didn’t get a good chance to assess how I like it because it took a sensor crit on turn 1 and missed everything for the rest of the game.

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Getting back into the tabletop game after 35 years. Well, Alpha Strike anyway. Settling up for Scouring Sands.

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>>98551568
Welcome back.

That's a handsome Hunchie!

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So I decided to try some Celestial omnis in an actual game, and damn are these zombies hard to kill. Whoever said the Archangel was bad hasn't played one.

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Get out of here, Stalker.
Also some tiny little hovers. Was kind of lazy painting them because they're so small.

>>98551672
Nice. Pic is a little blurry but your white looks good. What's your process? Planning on painting up some Lyran Guards and Comstar myself but I'm worried my white is going to look like shit.

>>98551839
Off-white over light blueish-gray basecoat. I've normally used Ulthuan Grey for white, as it's close enough to true white while being easier to paint, but I think GW has fucked up with their paint formula since recently I've had issues with the paint and medium separating in the pot and the paint having very poor coverage. It worked fine here, but the FWL mech I painted a few weeks earlier with the same paint required so many coats to get any coverage that it obscured some of the details.
Lyran Guard isn't too bad to paint since you only need to do about 1/3rd of the mech in white, and it's pretty easy to just drybrush the right side and then fix the border between the blue and white.

>>98551961
>Ulthuan Grey

I had the same shit happen to my pot of that stuff, very frustrating

>>98551982
>>98551961
unless you have it brand new never been touched, a whole bunch of GW's paints need to be shaken like its a baby you hate and are trying to kill, because a bunch of them are all fucked up like that and you have to pretend to be a paint mixing machine to semi- unfuck them.
so.. uh... enjoy looking like you're having a furious wank shaking gw's shitty pots.

>>98551961
Thanks. Only recently got back into mini painting after a decade or two out of it. So far I've painted up a company of "my guys" that had white "heads" and "hands", but I used a black primer and tried to build up to white. Ended up having to do multiple layers of army painter Matt white which left the paint looking thick, flat and impossible to highlight. Feel like it stands out too much against the red that most of the models are that I was able to highlight and get a bit of a gradient on. I'll try a lighter primer and base coat when painting my lyrans.

>>98552012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR3VQfTzZH4

>>98552012
I actually used black primer for my Lyrans, since the 2/3rds of the mech that is blue works better with black primer. I just painted a light grey (specifically blueish gray, since it's a "cold" shade that works well with white) on the white side before starting to apply the white.

>>98552101
>>98552133
Cheers both. Will post results when they're done.

>>98545009
Piss poor optimization.
Story-focused game without much of a story (although cinematics done pretty well).
Cobalt Star story certainly lacks of relevant screen time to develop characters beyond their basic cliches.
Bears story was more or less coherent.
Wolves, none fucking cares about Wolves, Tukayyd campaign from ComGuard perspective would be much more interesting.
And add bad encounter design as cherry on top.

>>98552382
>Tukayyd campaign from ComGuard perspective
All the normal spawns are on your side.

AI is too retarded to defend itself.

Great Success.

>>98552515
You also forget
>Clanbusters will have SHS cause PGI doesn't believe IS has access to DHS

>>98545009
I think a serious part of the problem is that the average gamer wasn't born yet the last time there was a game in this setting that featured the Clans in any form, and we haven't had a game where they player was a Clanner since Mechwarrior 2 released over 30 years ago.

We've got a whole generation of fans who have only seen the setting in the context of the late Succession Wars era that both the Battletech strategy game and the Mechwarrior 5 base game were set in. For an audience like that, the Clans are just a really weird plot twist that comes out of nowhere. It's like, "Who are these autistic furries and what are they doing in my gritty mercenary game?"

>>98552004
Throw a bb or glass bead in them and use a tattoo ink mixer that costs like $15. I have to do that with my paints I don't use much like once a year and add a little water. I actually have some Ral Partha paints from the 90's that are still good. They made my absolute favorite purple and yellow ink wash.

>>98552572
To be fair it's more like writting problem, because Clans campaigns really lacking some time to dive into the whole Clan thing, like trials,inter-caste interactions, banters, etc.

>>98552572
>We've got a whole generation of fans who have only seen the setting in the context of the late Succession Wars era
That does tally up with my experiences of introducing people to tabletop. A lot of them start with introtech then go off on their own to experiment with 3039 before bouncing hard off Clans as they don't like the way it changes the game outside the few who are the equivalent of "that guy" whom naturally can't wait to stack as many Clan pulse boats they can.

PGI has it in their mindset they can get the MW2 audience while forgetting that audience is made up of mainly dead or dying Boomers. There are a lot of references in their games to stuff that happened in sourcebooks but again they also forget the average person who played a MW vidya title has never read a sourcebook in their life. So they end up producing shovelware slop which tries to survive by key jangling "remember this character and event?" which very few people will understand and get.

>>98552685
>don't like the way it changes the game outside the few who are the equivalent of "that guy"
That's really a flaw inherent in the Battletech ruleset and has been a source of controversy since like 1990.

The tonnage, heat, and damage of weapons was balanced based on single heatsinks. Once you add double heatsinks to the mix, whether Clan or reintroduced Lostech, you suddenly create a game in which some weapons are just plain better than others in a way that isn't reflected in their cost.

>>98552004
There's this ancient and forbidden technique called "stirring". But be discrete about it, the cool kids will never accept you into their midst if you do anything to imply that dropper bottle aren't always and in every way better than pots.

>>98552731
Not helped by lasers being even more clearly superior in the games than they are in the tabletop, which is saying a lot. Imagine already having everyone naturally build towards laser boating and then the big tech advancement is to take their one weak point and fix it. Clan invasion is a pretty terrible upgrade to the gameplay side of the tech in the videogames, it's just rich get richer.

D.R.T. just got dropped in audiobook format, will be dropping into the Archive when I get the chance.

>>98552755
>There's this ancient and forbidden technique called "stirring
Gay

>>98553322
Are thevGSL and other audiobooks anywhere? I'm not seeing them.

>>98553744
*GDL

>>98553749
All the current audiobooks available are in the archives, even the old crappy ones.

>>98553932
OK, I found it, I was looking in the one with the ebooks. Thanks

>>98551568
Scouring Sands is a great campaign, you'll have fun with it! Don't get too caught up by the Aces cards, follow the intent and the AI still acts pretty smart.
There's plenty of replay in Scouring Sands too.

Which was more devastating: the 1st SW or the 2nd?

>>98554378
The first by a mile. The second was already moving into cripple fight territory where everything was getting spent by the end.

The who "Last battle of the last X" stuff is cool in the 2nd, though.

>>98552620
The ball bearing works too. It's all about violence of action forcibly re mixing ingredients.
>>98552755
No where near violent enough to re mix. Unless you're going to whisk the paints.

>>98554398
>"Last battle of the last X"
Can you elaborate please?

I've decided to get a sort of Planetary Empires set of map hexes to run campaigns. Are there actual rules for running campaigns like this? If not I was gonna do something simple

>>98553932
Did Shrapnel 25 ever get uploaded?

>>98551646
thank you! He is a very dashing Hunchback.

>>98554323
Ive been watching a few videos on gameplay for it. Looks a bit rough at times....

>>98548733
Sorry to ask for the joke to be explained but I don't speak japanese. What's the reporter asking and what's the Atlas pilot saying? Google translate isn't giving me a good picture.

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>>98555406
It's a take on this viral moment from a Japanese tv show.

>>98555406
"LRM shower while I'm with my lover make the moment feel special, so I like it."

Do you guys have any 3D print-on-demand shop you can recommend? I got only a couple stls I'd like to print, so I don't know I want whole set of printer for that

>>98556005
No, you pay your dues to the LDS as is proper

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>>98554378
1st Succession War burned down the library. 2nd pissed all over what remained. In terms of wholesale destruction the 1st was way more devastating. In terms of being able to recover and starting the true downward spiral of lostech then the 2nd was more devastating for humanity as a whole as although by the end of the 1st Succession War the Inner Sphere had been brutalized they still had the ability to recover what was lost and were in the process of rebuilding before the 2nd kicked off.
>>98554665
NTA but there were a few desperate last roll of the dice attempts normally involving warships with the Lyrans for example using their last remaining Tharkad to lift the siege of Hesperus and smash the remaining Combine warship fleet.
>>98552801
They tried to make the Davionman method viable and technically it would be if they didn't throw unreasonable hordes at the player making it a nobrainer to go energy boat.

Amaris did nothing wrong.
Richard Cameron was an imbred retard and SLDF was led by incompetent slav.

>>98552572
Honestly I feel the current time period (3152, third star league) is a great period for a mech warrior game with all the different sides and minor skirmish scale conflicts. Personally how I would have it set up
>Custom character creation like the Paradox published battletech game, can have parents be clan descended
>Customizable starting mechs through a point buy system vaguely analogous to BV (obviously not 1 to 1 price)
>Flashpoints and campaign scenarios are built around you picking sides and effecting the outcome of conflicts within the inner sphere

It is weird how the mech warrior games still don't have customizable characters and background especially when shit like character appearance and gender plays no role in a game like mercenaries (at least clans it would be weird of your character was a mandigo sized black man surrounded by normal whiteish people who are purportedly your full blooded siblings).

>>98556711
His only real mistake was trying to sell our the other periphery states to try to get Kerensky to bend the knee, both because Kerensky would never but also he alienated the Periphery when they inevitably found out and it was the Periphery backing Kerensky that gave the SLDF the needed base to actually win the war. Even the RWR ended up being fractured between Amaris' yes men and RWR citizens pissed off about everything, with the latter oftentimes joining hands with the SLDF.
If Amaris hadn't tried to a pointless backstab, the SLDF forces under Kerensky very likely would have floundered and been slowly ground down via attrition, and Amaris night have genuinely won.

>>98556711
Kerensky was the biggest retard in the setting at least for actions. Leave an impressionable idiot in the care of a psycho who hates the Star League, leave to fight a distant war and withdraw forces from the core of the Terran Hegemony to do so, and after everything is settled just fucking off from the Inner Sphere instead of trying to preserve the Hegemony or playing kingmaker.

Hell if Kerensky was willing to play kingmaker they could have probably just destroyed the other four great houses and had a truly united Inner Sphere.

>>98556763
>, leave to fight a distant war and withdraw forces from the core of the Terran Hegemony
Cannot blame him. He was a spheroid and a russian. Bingo for small, special military operation in the Periphery.
>year later
> By this point Kerensky had lost the equivalent of 140 divisions, nearly a million soldiers

>>98556747
For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure Clan sibkos can have pretty different looking people in them because of how the genetic engineering process works. Isn't the deal that instead of having two "parents", they're all made up of DNA from a bunch of different people?

>>98556840
I always assumed it was just two shared parents eg. A Ward-Kerensky sibko might be made up of the progeny of Vladimir Ward and Natasha Kerensky instead of any combination of Wards and Kerenskys.

>>98556747
>It is weird how the mech warrior games still don't have customizable characters and background especially when shit like character appearance and gender plays no role in a game like mercenaries
They wanted to do it for MW5 Mercs. They basically abandoned it at some point during development. Can still see references to it cause Mason is in fact classed as a girl according to his character card in the game files.
>>98556763
>Hell if Kerensky was willing to play kingmaker they could have probably just destroyed the other four great houses and had a truly united Inner Sphere.
Then you'd probably get Herbs nightmare scenario aka Empires Aflame where the Terran Hegemony didn't fall, tech did advance but there's no Clan tech and most horrific of all, every faction still has some LAMs and warships.

>>98556953
LAMs are destined to be either inferior to battlemechs, or render them obsolete completely.

>>98556953
>Can still see references to it cause Mason is in fact classed as a girl according to his character card in the game files.
Are you misgendering Mason just because he was assigned female at birth? It doesn't matter what his records say, what matters is Mason's true gender identity.

>>98556953
>Can still see references to it cause Mason is in fact classed as a girl according to his character card in the game files.
I assumed that was because the protagonist's gender was changed at some point in the development. The MWO promo items for MW5 preorder with the protag merc company logo refer to the unit as "Chloe's Cavaliers", while in the game they're called Nick's Cavaliers. That suggests to me that the original protagonist was a female mechwarrior called Chloe, but it got changed at some point, leaving the original gender of the character still in the game files.

>>98556840
Clanners do have a "genefather" and "genemother", though the terms only indicate which donor's DNA was used for which gamete. Theoretically the same person could be both the genefather and genemother, but they generally prefer to mix the genes of two people to create new genetic combinations.
I don't remember if all sibko members have the same geneparents, or just the genemother. Bloodnames are traced based on the genemother so that's the name that is used for the sibko, but I'm not sure if the genefathers can be different between sibkin.

>>98556991
There's leftover entries for a gender toggle where players could have made their character male or female. So being able to pick your gender at the very least was on the table. Probably was scrapped mostly out of financial concern i.e. having to pay two voice actors.

>>98556964
LAMs we're still experimental enough, that a timeline where the SLDF didn't fall likely would have had the Terrans keep experimenting with the concept long enough that by the current period Mechs would be basically be Armored Cores.

>>98556964
I mean you can already see this. The mechs aren't getting that much tougher but they are getting lighter and faster, and accurate enough to fire on the move. It's steadily reinventing LAMs from first principles, especially whoever invents overed boost.

>>98557044
We've already seen glider protomechs like the Svartalfa work in universe. All it takes is one faction wondering if you can do LANs without the transformation gimmick and suddenly the battlefield is full of Battlemechs gliding around like they're Gungriffins.

>>98557008
> Bloodnames are traced based on the genemother so that's the name that is used for the sibko, but I'm not sure if the genefathers can be different between sibkin.
Unless new warrior made out of genes of the Bloodhouse founder.
Or freeborn descendants like Phelan.

>>98557008
My question is do they have sibkos where both parents share the same bloodname? After all actual genetic separation could be several generations between people with the same bloodname.

>>98557009
It also means if animate a cutscene you have to do it twice for every part Mason is in.

>by the current period Mechs would be basically be Armored Cores.
Kerensky's crimes are truly unforgivable.

LAMs in the mechwarrior games when?
Quads in the mechwarrior games when?
Quadvees in the mechwarrior games when?
Superheavy tripods in the mechwarrior games when?

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>>98557500
Never because the devs are hacks that can't even make a functioning AI, let alone introduce entirely new mech types.
It took a stupid amount of time just to get fucking melee weapons, let alone transforming mechs.

It's a shame too, because being able to switch between stompy mech gameplay and Ace Combat style ASF gameplay on the fly sounds really cool on paper.

>>98557664
>sounds really cool on paper.
Go play Space marine 2

>>98557664
Grab Macross Triangle Frontier and cheat so you can use units cross-series.

>>98555107
Yeah, its with the rest of the Shrapnel magazines.

>>98557500
That would require non-awful level design, at the very least.

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Does anyone know if a formula exists for converting TW aerospace fighters into aerospace BSP Assets yet?
Looking to test them out for integration into a campaign where we already have aerospace fighters. Right now they're just chucks of BV to be converted into strikes, but the assets seem like a good low-overhead way to give them some more flavor and interaction with ground units. So I need a way to convert units that don't already have cards provided with the playtest.

>>98559155
I don't think the formula even exists to turn tanks into assets yet. At least not publicly. Assets are already an iffy proposition, but the lack of hard rules to make them is stopping a ton of players from even considering the idea.

>>98559264
hmm. perhaps I'll have to look into a way to adapt the abstraction of the aerospace mapsheet to work with TW record sheets. that would probably end up being easier.

>>98555035
>I've decided to get a sort of Planetary Empires set of map hexes to run campaigns. Are there actual rules for running campaigns like this? If not I was gonna do something simple
This is exactly how Map Campaign Anon got his name.

>>98557117
There’s a case in IlClan recognition guide 7 where two hell’s horses warriors of bloodname Cobb serve together, and one is specifically the genefather of the other, so unless horses disregard the usual genemother bloodname only rule, that means that sibko was all Cobb.

>>98559424
As far as I know, the only clan to change up that rule is woof, and only very recently because they literally couldn't scrape up enough maternal geneheritage warriors to fire off a bloodname trial across the whole clan. They let a warrior legalese around it by claiming that because the very first set of bloodname trials allowed the participants to choose either maternal or paternal, any warrior ever *could* have chosen to trace paternal, they just... didn't. This was backed by the loremaster and khan because they really wanted the "moral" win of still being able to fire off at least one blood trial.

>>98556575
What is the name of the jumping mech in pic?

Does anyone know if you can refit a mech to a different version in MeqHQ? Like if I want to swap a Locust 1V to a 1E, can I do that?

>>98559527
Starslayer

>>98559617
Yes you can. And refits in general are easier and cheaper than normal customisation

>>98559678
Navigating the menus is hard sometimes, where do I find the refit option?

>>98555107
Thanks for reminding me it exists.
Ace Darwin's great-granddaughter has run off in a Wight to be a mercenary because they wouldn't let her take the original Panther. Why a Wight and not any of the myriad other options available? Because it's based on a Panther.

Does anyone know where I could find the ace cards for alpha strike, especially scouring sands?

I'm tired of having to buy full-priced boxes for a handful of tokens.

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>>98548181
oh my goodness anon. What's the point value's here or is it campaign specific scenario so it doesn't matter?
As well, curious how long games like this usually take you ? When I'm playing 8K BV and above the games are already 5 hrs and we're rarely using more than 4-5 mechs per side.
Glorious either way

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>>98560440

I don't have the first clue what the BV is. It's a campaign, so I don't really care: the OPFOR is the OPFOR and they can deal with it. Balance is for tournaments and LGS pickup games with strangers, and both of those are the *worst* way to play BattleTech.

We start our games at ~10am on Saturdays, and they run until ~530pm, with a 45 minute lunch break. This game got 13 turns in, and ended with all of 4 Lyran units left on the board, but the Warhammer and Zeus were retreating back to their board edge, so it was a clear decision. Keep in mind my "low population" days have 10 players on the board, and high population days can push 20.

Incidentally, this is the next scenario. The PCs were complaining that they expected more Lyran Wall of Steel stuff on this contact so I adjusted the OPFOR generation in AtB a little bit. To make them happy.
they are not happy

>>98560440
Anon, you are talking to the GM of what is basically a group of professional battletech players, half of whom got made demo agents so they would stop winning all of the events at gencon all the time. They know the rules better than the devs. Their resolution time per unit is probably 1/10th of what yours is because they've all been playing for 20+ years. Don't compare your home games to what NEA posts. Use it as inspiration to work towards and understand it's going to take a decade of regular play to get there. I do mean a decade. It took me 5 years to get my group to stop pickup play and start a campaign, and we had multiple campaigns crash out. It's been 12 years since we started, and we're only finally now playing games that approach this size and speed of how the Cincy boys play.

>>98560639
Nta, but do your players roll up a single mechwarrior or a lance?

>>98561096

The format of the campaign is that each player is responsible for the complete upkeep, logistics, and maintenance on a single lance, with no crossover of parts or personnel between lances. The Unit CO handles support forces and unit-level issues (DropShips, ASFs, administrative personnel, etc.). The classic problem with a full AccounTech campaign is that one poor bastard gets stuck with the maintenance and logistics for the entire unit, and burns out. Aside from scheduling issues, that kills more campaigns than anything else. So this solution has seems to solve that problem.

Give me a bit and I'll upload the campaign ruleset to somewhere and link it. I miss being able to attach PDFs.

>>98560639
you clearly know what BV if you frequent this board and get offended at it's mere mention.
>>98560779
I do not consider this level of play a goal, I was just curious. 8hrs sounds about right if you knew what you were doing.

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>>98561190

Here you go. Two hosting services so hopefully one works correctly.
>limewire com/d/CIKmD#KqQvpIJCFY
>files catbox moe/wa1ebh.pdf

>>98561205

Relax, my man. Nobody's offended by the existence of BV. If I'm offended by anything, I'm offended by the people who think that games must be balanced in order to be acceptable or fun, and while BV does enable those people, that's not the fault of Battle Value for existing.
>we auditioned a new player a few months back. Since we play in the home ballroom of one of our players, we vet people before letting them join, so run them through a couple of solo games to get to know them and make sure they know how to play first. Dude got mad in the LGS, and made a bit of a scene and insisted that the game was unfair because his side was at 3989 BV in a 4000 BV game, when the other force was at 3993 BV. We did not move forward in adding him to our group.

>>98561205
>>98560440
Anon he's answering your question. You asked what the point value was, and he answered that he doesn't have the first clue of what the BV (point value) is. He's not saying he doesn't know what the concept of BV in general is.

>>98561272
What the fuck? I'm generally pretty strict about BV limits (if we're playing at 8000, 8001 is a no go) but I also tend to be 50-100 under the line anyway. How would you even close such a small gap? Completely rework your entire force by changing variants and piloting skills until you stumbled on a perfect match? Add a single squad of low skill rifle infantry?

>>98561190
I am logistics man for my ACKS rpg game and I can totally understand the burnout.

>>98560639
Jesus christ. So if I am reading this right, you essentially have 8v10 lance game and finish in about 8 hours.

That's insanely fast.

>>98561272
Thanks for the updated document NEA. Just now i am organizing to re-start a small capaign. 5 pilots, small time merc unit in 3023.

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damn, having a partial cover was actually detrimental back then?

>>98561435
You still got the defense bonus so you could ride the outside of the dice curve (like force your opponant to 10's or 11's when you're riding 9's) but you were fucked if they hit.

>>98561482
TRVE Battletech is having a gauss rifle roll a 6 on the punch table. Only pussy ass millenials like that change.

>>98561525
>6 on Gauss against partial cover.
Ah yes, a true turrettech connoisseur. Our DVS-2 is a 3049, an exceptional vintage.How would you like your heavy woods prepared today, sir? With or without light smoke?

>>98560440

We usually play Company V Company games. 3 x merc players (roughly a lance each) vs DM with Opfor. Roughly speaking 12-15kpts value in a campaign game. Takes us anywhere from 6-8 hours depending on how long my teamates dither about making fucking decisions. Yes I care that it took you ten fucking minutes to figure out where you were going to move that Atlas. ITS GOT THREE FUCKING MP AT A WALK IT ISN'T THAT FUCKING COMPLEX REEEEEE.

We'd probably get it done faster if they could make a choice worth a damn.

>>98561550
I can do company v. company against my bud in about 5 hours with Helm tech. Grogtech drags out longer and clan v. IS is about the same because of trying to abuse the better weapons and protect the lighter armor for the BV. However, I'm the one making all the decisions strategically, so probably save some time there. Counting hexes is still what takes me the longest. I can eyeball it, but I have to count when a hex or two matters in a range bracket for firing phase.

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>all the shortest paths to the target hex are illegal for the jumping ’Mech
When is this true? Can't really picture this condition in my head

>>98561580
Your height capable by jump is only equal to your total JJ movement. If you have to cross a height 12 mountain with a 5/8/5, that's illegal. Or when you would hit a cavern ceiling. There's some nasty Solaris Maps like this and Devil's Bath IIRC.

>>98561571
Yeah.
FWIW, we're set in about 3060, but no clan tech. (We're in the boonies in the pereiphery, and the only helm-level stuff we realistically have is what we brought with us. So we're limited force too and limited pilots. I've already lost 4 (2 in one game!) so its quite fun. I wish i'd brought more mediums.

>>98561592
Oh, I see. Thanks. Most of the time I played with maps which Jump 3 was sufficient for terrain-crossing I couldn't think of that becoming a problem

>>98561592
This is why Urbanmechs and Shadow Hawks are even worse than they look on paper. You don't even need to have buildings on the field for jump 2 or 3 to fail to cross terrain.

>>98561637
Urbanmechs pretty much get to use their jets for free turning and crossing rough terrain hexes or landing in some woods in the park.

>>98561646
Hopping from street to street just over level 1 buildings is useful enough for a defender; as well as climbing little sturdy buildings for elevated shooting.

The free turning and jumping TMM when they go in is useful though and arguably more important for sure.

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>skipped battletech night to go on fun road trip
>hit pothole that caused flat tire partway into road trip
>by the time i hobbled into town on my spare, all places that could provide a replacement are closed
>have to get hotel room and wait for tomorrow to get new tire so i can get home
I won't skip Battletech night in the future. My group is having fun without me

>>98561746
Shame, friend. I hope you get to enjoy the rest of your road trip, tomorrow.

If it makes you feel better, I had a locked caliper on my rear wheel this morning that made my wheel smoke, but, thankfully, my tire didn't explode or catch fire. Just nearly caught on fire. Still made it to work with my spare vehicle after limping home and got voluntold to be part of an outreach thing on Thursday. Now, I've semi-responsibly stopped eating leftover ribs from Sunday and have switched to a salad and whiskey. Fuck Mondays. Glad to be here with you lovable bastards, though.

>>98557500
>Quads in the mechwarrior games when?
>Quadvees in the mechwarrior games when?
>Superheavy tripods in the mechwarrior games when?
Hopefully never. They all suck.

>>98560779
There's that dickriding again.

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>>98561858
Nigga, you are getting mad at some other guy reading the legitimate titles and status of a storied player. You may not like them but they're not fake. Besides, oldfags know how useful he's been. Motherfucker identified a Tiger LotB mini for me of like 10 ever produced that landed in my collection. That alone is worth more than whatever your sniveling idol toppling has ever pretended to do.

>>98561874
You're the one that sounds mad here dickrider.

>>98561888
>No u
I told you I wasn't the one that originally replied to you, bro. Facts is facts, though. NEA has contributed more to this game and this thread than you ever will. You can cry and gnash your teeth about that however you want. Those of us who have been here a long time recognize value.

>>98561837
shit your pants

>>98561933
Jokes on you, I'm wearing yours.