Does this module actually exist or is TvTropes talking out of its ass again? Google's dumb AI overview shoved it into my face on an unrelated search and I was curious.
>>98555093Talking out its ass.
>>98555093...Isn't that just the ending to Neon Genesis Evengelion?
>>98555787i dont think so. iirc shinji has to choose between a world where identity exists, and a world where it doesnt. the first time he chooses "death" and the world becomes soup, and then they remade it and he chooses for people to exist, even though it can be painful. the only eldritch entity involved in that proccess is kawrou who literally simps to death
>>98555093Is tvtropes still good? I sometimes browse it looking for analysis of different aspects of fiction like settings and characters.Might reuse cool things for my setting and ttrpg characters.Problem is that site makes you think only in tropes when homebrewing.
>>98556095>tvtropes >good>everThis website has been one of the greatest poisons of the internet age. It is a vacuous miasma were thought goes to die and you and all it's witnesses are forever tainted.
>>98555093Reminder that you can just make shit up on tvtropes and if anyone calls you out on it you can counter-call them out by calling a bigot or something based on their post history
>>98555093If that module exists it seriously misses the theme of CoC that humanity is insignificant. The eldritch abominations aren't necessarily malevolent they're often utterly indifferent to humanity who just end up as collateral damage."Actually, humanity turned the abomination insane." reads like HFY wank.
>>98556334Insignificant is a particular word. I would say "powerless" instead. Humanity isn't "insignificant"; Nyarlathotep wouldn't hang out on Earth if we were. All planets are significant, all life forms are a resource to consider. Rather, it's that the ladder goes really fucking high. To higher beings humans are a type of cattle, to be nurtured, culled, and/or harvested. And those beings have such higher beings to them, and those beings have yet higher beings to them. The things that sit at the top of this chain are so infinite and powerful that our planet amounts to a single entry in their metaphorical weekly accounting. So Earth could be processed in total and without warning, but cattle still has value, you don't shoot cows just because you can.All that to say, a great old one having the boneheaded idea of linking his psyche to a network of hollering monkeys could indeed meaningfully backfire. It'd be out of theme because it's silly, not because "humanity can never amount to anything, ever".
>>98556360 Splitting hairs over insignificant vs "like cattle" aside, my problem isn't that an abomination's plan could backfire in a sort of pyrrhic victory, but that it's essentially a total victory with zero consequence for humanity. And no, humanity can never amount to anything in CoC. Humanity will always be doomed to be at the mercy of powers we don't understand, at best we can live in ignorance.
>>98556095It's very sanitized with many pages being removed for no reason.
>>98556819Both sanitized and drowning in ads and potential viruses
>>98556886And they HATE adblocks.
>>98556950This is the #1021 page you've viewed this month with ads blocked!!!>>98556334>>98556360>>98556768I could see this plot working with a minor cthulhi getting too bigfor its britches maybe, but a full scale Great OId One? Fat chance.
>>98556950Fuck 'em, they deserve all their ads blocked for getting rid of the hentai pages, then the shit they pulled with Snoot Game.Mein fucking Kampf has a TVTropes page, but Snoot Game? Far too radical.Cocksuckers to a man.
>>98559118"Great Old Ones" are nothing more than priests and supplicants to the real powers. They are finite and mortal, just a whole lot less finite and mortal than humans.
>>98561027Be that as it may they're not gonna lose their minds if a bunch of humans chatter too much at them
>>98561098Eight billion voices in your head is a lot, anon.You might be ten million years old and have enough strength to bench press mountains but that doesn't make you invincible.
>>98560653Reminder that their founder Fast Eddie wanted to ban Lolita from his site for being “anime pedo shit” based solely in the name. Dumb fuck never even realized it was the name of a real book or so much as did a google search.
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>>98555093>Does this module actually exist or is TvTropes talking out of its ass again?I dunno, but I like that idea and I'm stealing it. >>98556334>>98556360>>98556768>>98559118My interpretation was a scaling issue/the entities math was wrong: To contextualize this, basically, "How many fruit fly brains could YOUR brain accommodate before your either hurt yourself or started to forget you were a human? A thousand? A million? A trillion?" Also, that other Anon isn't wrong: humanities "insignificance" in the setting is a bit of a sliding scale. I wouldn't imagine the Great Race of Yith to view humanity as totally "insignificant bugs" - they need us as hosts to mentally time travel.
>>98561751I take a slightly different approach. Everything is ultimately insignificant no matter how apparently powerful.
>>98555093>>98559118I think the bigger problem with this plot on a fundamental level is that it retroactively renders all of the party's previous efforts pointless. And it's not in the doomed hopelessness that's more typical for CoC, but rather directly showing the PCs that they could have just stayed home and everything would have been fine. Whether or not the collective minds of humanity would overwhelm the entity matters a lot less compared to whether it makes for a satisfying conclusion. I could see it being the case where even if the plan fails, the nightmares persist and steadily get worse, as the eldritch entity just ends up 'comatose' with its alien mind still linked up to all of humanity. Maybe the followers found out that they can whisper into the ears of their fallen master to start slowly influencing humanity that way.Basically, just make it so the party has a few days/weeks to properly sever the psychic link before the eldritch monster's foolishness dooms humanity anyway.
>>98555093You should stop using/trusting Google with AI web search. In my experience Grok is better at web crawling. Chat GPT gens the best images, but Google's Gemini Notebook is the best for analyzing pdfs.
>>98556249It's useful for finding examples of a trope you like and some obscure books though
>>98555787No. The end of Eva involves the barrier between human psyches to collapse, reducing them to a single, possibly only quasi-sentient world mind. Shinji rejects his decision because he realizes it's cowardly and Asuka rejects it for reasons we are not privy to. It's implied that since two people left the LCL ocean, everyone might if they want to.
>>98556950Shan't be viewing your ads, sorry!
>>98563848>Asuka rejects it for reasons we are not privy to.I mean logically there's 3 possibilities:>She knew it wasn't the real Shinji and wanted the real thing>She couldn't stand the thought that Shinji was more mature than her and left through sheer spite>She realized that being in a perfect world where you're the only one that matters is the same as being alone, which is the thing she feared the most
>>98556249When I first discovered TV Tropes, I spent a night there and came out determined never to interact with the Lyrical Nanoha fandom. I'd count that as a net positive.
>>98564005Could be any or all of them. Shinji and Asuka are actually very alike and they just cope with their trauma differently while failing to realize/care the other is hurting. Both are also terrified of intimacy (specifically, being rejected).
>>98556360Lovecraft never wrote a single story where humans were resources for the weird bullshit. Have you ever read him at all?
>>98565274Great Race of Yith.
>>98565307Swing and a miss.
>>98565328NTA but why? Humans are explicitly used for their body swapping in The Shadow Out of Time.
>>98556249It was pretty hilarious when they had troper tales>People admitting how they were stalking people, oggling little girls, and complaining about girls not liking nice guysThe internet has lost so much. It used to be so much more hilarious, more honest. Now the shitty parts of humanity are driven underground and I can't find amusement in people being retarded, pathetic, disgusting, or insane as the worst of it is censored
>>98565274>resources for the weird bullshit.I mean, Shadow over Innsmouth and The Rats in the Walls if you consider miscegenation and livestock ranching to be weird.
>>98556768I'd say the bigger issue is that it's an arbitrary win that renders the entire plot up to that point pointless. It's like an action movie where the heroes have to stop a guy who stole a dangerous virus, but they fail and he releases it, only to discover it was a placebo the whole time and he just kills himself in despair. What was the point of everything the heroes did?
>>98565274Challenge From BeyondThe Shadow Over Innsmouth The Shadow Out of TimeThe Dunwich HorrorLiterally anything he wrote where ghouls show up.
>>98565545At the Mountains of Madness, too. The Elder Things made humans by proxy via the shoggoths. They were researching human subjects once they got thawed.
>>98556095I noticed that all coverage of internet media has gotten quietly partisan in that anything problematic or unwoke has gotten removed as "Insufficiently notable." EFAP's page got removed, for example.
>>98565274Would you consider Herbert West to not be part of the "weird bullshit?"
>>98555787No. The NGE ending is that everybody has the choice to remain in the sludge, but people who're very very very fucked up or gutsy enough can gather enough sense of self to reconstitute themselves into their own beings again.
>>98565597Wonder how many years they've got left before the bills kill 'em?
>>98561751I'm not opposed to the idea that linking a billion fruit fly minds could be harmful, I'm opposed to the fruit flies getting away unharmed from that telepathic connection.>>98565542That's a solid point. Another reason to dislike the plot (I hope it's just an ai hallucination).
>>98563815Looking for tropes instead of story is the exact problem.>>98565520>It was pretty hilarious when they had troper talesYeah but not in a way that didn't inspire pity or fear. Though now I think I'm scared that I don't hear it.
>>98567227https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcWdu-39GzE&list=PLvxQQ9a5SHSCPjA-KvBgZ3_qPkvNBoLsi&index=12This is a good one
>>98565542I don't think such a story is necessarily bad. Sometimes that just happens. Everything you fought for was for nothing because the thing you were trying to stop was a nothingburger the whole time.
>>98556249It's fun to go over the elements of a story you liked, but that's it. The website can still overall fuck off and die.
>>98556249>>98567491The only utility I get out of it is saving me the time of listening to director's commentaries to get the good nuggets of production trivia. The main trope page is fucking useless but trivia and YMMV can be helpful.
>>98556334THAT is hardly something you'd not expect from Chaosium. Perhaps half of their adventures miss Lovecraft's "points".>>98565476Not really. The Great Race goes for the beetle creatures in the future, not humanity.I mean, yes, they do use the bodies of humans through history (as any other intelligent species), but that's very minor, like one guy in a million.
>>98555173>>98556251>>98556334>>98561751>>98563005Just so you guys know, it does exist. It's the City Beneath the Sands scenario from Terror Australis (it's actually the scene on the 1ED cover!).I've provided the relevant text and visual for your convenience.
>>98565558Maybe it's the translation I've read, but I didn't see anything linking shoggoths to humans.The newly woken elder things examined the humans (and other things at the camp), but more in the general "WTF is all this new shit?" sense.
>>98567680That anon remembers it wrongly, but there is a connection. Basically the Elder Things accidently created all/most of earth's life as runaway biowaste from shoggoths>These vertebrates, as well as an infinity of other life-forms—animal and vegetable, marine, terrestrial, and aërial—were the products of unguided evolution acting on life-cells made by the Old Ones but escaping beyond their radius of attention. They had been suffered to develop unchecked because they had not come in conflict with the dominant beings. Bothersome forms, of course, were mechanically exterminated. It interested us to see in some of the very last and most decadent sculptures a shambling primitive mammal, used sometimes for food and sometimes as an amusing buffoon by the land dwellers, whose vaguely simian and human foreshadowings were unmistakable. In the building of land cities the huge stone blocks of the high towers were generally lifted by vast-winged pterodactyls of a species heretofore unknown to palaeontology.
>>98565602Herb was strictly a mad scientist engaging in mad science, no eldritch deities or horrid atrocities that he and the narrator didn't create themselves.
>>98565476Moron.
>>98567744I wasn't trying to be contradictory but I did want to clarify what was meant by weird. Headless corpses you pumped full of special stew coming to do you in is kind of weird but not capital w Weird.
>>98565545>>98565558nope
>>98567356Such a story is necessariily bad.
>>98567715Does he know "aerial" doesn't have an umlaut? Who edited this tripe?
>>98567785It was an accepted spelling prior and at the time.
>>98567759Strong argument.
>>98567675Thank you for your investigative work, king!
>>98568085I actually ended up finding it on one of the tvtropes splinter websites listed by name and then hit up the sharethread for the pdf. I honestly never heard of the supplement until today.
>>98567675Thanks for digging up the quote, anon!Using POW stats in the justification for why this happens is pretty grim, but chaosium/10 for sure.
>>98567759Breeding holes for deep ones is a use whether you like it or not.
>>98569850Technically we were more breeding poles, given the only marriage we see on screen is Fishwife Humanusband.These days they'd probably just get away with a pop up ad, 'Horny Fish in your area: My civilization is dead and I just want someone to use my salmonussy'
>>98569870I don’t know if you’ve ever played dark corners of the earth, but the fish wife shower reveal scene in that always scared the shit out of me as a kid
>>98567803No, proper spelling is received from God and never changes. Better luck next time.
>>98568009Yeah, it is, which is why you can't refute it, loser.
>>98569850nope
>>98569947I was always spooked by the dead little girl visions myself. The stress mechanics during the shoggoth fight is what made me check out. More out of nausea than fear.
>>98565597What's EFAP? >>98565637WAT
>>98570926>EFAPEvery frame a pause, a podcast done by Mauler and some of his buddies.Just some dudes being guys over media basically. Not even political, they just didn't like TLJ back when it was haram chudspeak to say you didn't before the great software update to 'everyone has always agreed TLJ was dogshit'.
>>98571041Who?
>>98571128>Who?Some bong who didn't like TLJ back when it was haram chudspeak to say you didn't before the great software update to 'everyone has always agreed TLJ was dogshit'.Seriously that's the entire answer to the situation, some guy didn't like TLJ therefore chud therefore remove.
>>98570491In classic Bethesda style I hit a bugged out level (mother hydra ship fight) that bricked my copy
>>98571041Kind of burying the lede here
>>98570926Podcast full of nerds that critique videos they see online. Most are part of the “commentary channel” sphere, with some of them having done culture warrior schlock. Though most people tend to sperg about the guy who gets the most recognition on the channel, Mauler, whose main crime is being an unfunny verbose sperg that makes analytic reviews about nerd movies that can be twice or thrice as long as the movies themselves. They’re not any worse than the other unfunny movie or nerd culture podcasts that exists out there, they’re just moderate to chud-adjacent which is enough to backlist them. Though being moderate to chud adjacent doesn’t make them any funnier, they just say stuff sucks for being woke compared to the other podcasts that say shit sucks cause it isn’t woke enough.
>>98571041>>98571307thx anon, good to know I was worried it was 'e-fap' and I'd somehow missed out on a new gooning website.
>>98567759Wrong.
>>98570479I cannot think of a more direct use than as childbearers
>>98578542Amen!
>>98555093>no module nameddoesn't exist>ai overview involvedsuper mega doesn't exist
>>98584897But anon it's right here>>98567675
>>98556095It used to have some parts that were handy to have, mostly for finding stuff that was similar to something you like. But they've gotten so far away from their original ideals of "everything or nothing" as far as what was allowed to be cataloged with the only limit really seeming to be legality, like the good autist clusterfuck it was, and now they have some circlejerk of retards deciding what people are allowed to talk about and what is allowed to be cataloged.As far as /tg/ goes I only ever found it useful for finding new game systems and settings, which old /tg/ used to be better for either way, and for finding things to watch or read for inspiration. Using it for writing stuff always seemed like a bad idea though.
>>98556249This sentiment was Jossed.
