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>>98555893Don't care, tired of dealing with you lesser thans
>>98555887Stop posting these dogshit furry models
>>98555903>The nomodels seethesWill it ever end?
>>98555887>>98555904what happened to going to bed furfag?
Should I buy some hellblasters?
>>98555908I got distracted by the secondaries, good night and sweet nightmare of 40k scenarios.
>>98555904People with no models are unironically better than someone like you who defaced and ruined your models with fucking gay furry faggot animal heads and 9000 decals like a whore covered in bad tattoos on top of terrible sloppy paintjobs.
Do you guys think the mutant actually believes everyone but him is a secondary?
>>98555912You'll be back crying in under 20 minutes>>98555917He's genuinely that insane yeah
>>98555917I don't care what that retard believes I just want him to fuck off back to plebbit where he came from
>>98555879>>Alternative rules:>https://onepagerules.com/Why are we shilling that faggot shit in the OP, again?
>>98555902Then fucking leave
>>98555933It was in the last one, so it's in this one, if you have a personal issue against the guy behind it, then touch grass.
>>98555946>shills offtopic shit in OP>t-touch grassfuck off
Progress for tonight.Too much talking not enough model posting
>>98555887I already mog after working on my army for 2 weeksdecided I'm doing all the base coats first as it's pretty mindless & ezpz (what u were paying for)>>98555950 this guy mogs me tell me ur yellow recipe
>>98555956I admire your confidence anon...XD
>>98555950That yellow is so good looking it makes me want to commit to bad moons now. I got all my armageddon orks just sitting here because I can't decide on what warband I like most.
>>98555959those orks are already infinitely better than your slop lmaocalled it btw>>98555921>You'll be back crying in under 20 minutes
>>98555922I think he got perma'd for the german ww2 decals so we're the last place leftI wish he'd go shit up a Rizon server or something
>>98555968>leddit and 4chen are the only forums on the whole internet!We're not the last place left at all
>>98555946>It was in the last one, so it's in this oneSo we should take it out in the future, got it>if you have a personal issue against the guy behind itYeah he's a slimy shill faggot who will pretend to be random anons on /tg/ and then samefag himself to push his game VERY OBVIOUSLY because it turns out it's not actually free, they're selling all kinds of micro-DLC shit
>>98555972What do we have unique to us "anon"
>>98555972ntab looking at his behavior it's not really that much of stretch to imagine him getting banned in every place he stayed for more than a couple days
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
lookin' at bulk acrylic paint on amazon. does cheapness in paint matter? or does it all taste the same?
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>>98555948>>98555975Then make the thread yourself next time if you care this much about it, you cry baby. Lmao.
Reposting from last thread because I'm dumb.Suggestions and opinions are welcome, I'm mainly just looking at where to expand from with my current old roster of units.
>>98555989Acrylics for miniatures are thin and have high pigment concentration. You can absolutely paint with non-hobby paints, but there is largely no reason to. Vallejo are affordable and a pot will last you a decade.
>>98555992How about you don't race to make a new thread the second we hit image limit so you can keep shoving your shill links into it instead
>>98555995>shilling vallejo of all thingsfaggot
>>98555989you'll have a dogshit time if you're not buying high pigment paints, anon. Anything you paint will look like it was done with your finger, no matter how skilled you are.
>>98555956Averland sunset yellow for about 3-4 thin coats, skragg brown glazed in recesses and lower parts of the armour where shadows would fall, then dorn yellow for highlights. The trick is i use a lot of scratch marks and freehand on my orks to disguise the areas where black shows through on the yellow.>>98555963I wouldn't recommend it unless you either want an endurance challenge or fuck heavy with badmoonz.
>>98555995nu-vallejo is dogshit, mr chatGPT
>>98555999Based and checked, however I will give that anon the benefit of the doubt and assume they just copy-pasted what was already there. But now that we've had this discussion, whoever bakes next thread should have no excuses.
>>98556007Whoops replied to wrong post meant >>98555997 somehow my eyes assumed he got the trips
>>98555997>>98556007Okay anons, I just went back through almost 2 weeks worth of threads out of pure spite. Every single one with the same link and nobody directly mentioning it to complain about it being there. So if it really matters that much, make the thread yourself or bitch about it when the image limit is hit or we get to page 8. Because, evidently, nobody else but you two, in this current instance, has given a shit about it for at least 18 threads in a row.
3 orks 80€
>>98555948One page rules isn’t off topic?It is an alternative rule system for people burned out from official warhammer 40k rules for a hopefully better rule system.
>>98556047There's a grot as well, so that's 4 miniatures!
>>98555989If you're just starting out just buy the army painter fnatic starter set for $40. The bottles go way further than you'd think and using craft paint is an uphill battle.
>>98555997>>98556007What’s wrong with the alternative rules?I’m seriously asking here. To me they were added to the op for the same reason the wargames terrain pdf was added because anons kept complaining.
>>98555989Yes. You CAN paint with cheap craft paints BUT it's very thick & will need more thinner drops. Which doesn't seem to have a magic number ratio. Better to find a good local model store that sells paints for a little cheaper on average. You can order hobby paints online but there's a risk they'll arrive broken.
>>98556049>>98556052Both of these are me.I just am a little weirded out at what went wrong with opr and why there seems to be a dislike for the alternative ruleset part of the op when we complain a lot about gw’s official warhammer 40k rules.Also I have insomnia right now and I’m thinking of pulling an all lighter and all day one to force fix it.If one page rules gets removed perhaps something or different rules replace it?Star breach and no limits look free to me from a quick skim.
>>98556062>why there seems to be a dislike for the alternative rulesetsenseless bitching made by the same retards who whine about third party models or even prints or airbrushes or contrast or whatever else they've got at hand to shitpost about someone else
>>98556074>whine about third party models or even printsNever seen anyone do this where it wasn't warranted btw. Waitaminute is this about the knight-sized wolf heads?
I think I understand.I thought it was gonna be more complex than pic related.Do you at least like that the alternative wargames for reusing 40k models are there or do they just not bother you in a “I don’t mind” way?
>>98556081 (me)Meant to reply to >>98556074It is gonna be a tough night and day to fix my insomnia.Anyways should more alternative rules be added to the list?
>>98556079You may have missed the third party whining.Or it was just anons trolling 40k anons in pretending to be official warhammer model only shills.
What do you reckon is a fair price for the Ork half from Armageddon? 90ish euro?
>>98556114Reminder, this is the canon place of abhuman filth in 40k.
>>98556114>>98556126Would actually make darktide worth playing
>>98556098What specific third party models was it about?
>>98555956>contrast spam>mogLe ecks dee XD do you even like orks? :DD XD
>>98556131>t. hasn't played in over a yearIt's in a pretty good state now and admech is a ton of fun
>>98556141I'm sorry but I just cant bring myself to give the fucking swedes anymore money
>>98556146You can do what you want, I'm just a little tired of constantly seeing people still post about the game as if it hasn't been worked on and pretty well fixed up. It still has its problems but definitely worth playing now
>>98556152Has the story advanced at all since the Arbites showed up?
>>98556127>pedo artist
>>98556127Edge Slop
>>98555879>angels porphyr>colour scheme doesn't include porphyry ONE JOB.
>>98556154>horde slasher/shooter>storyIt hasn't, does that really matter to you?
>>98556158>pedo poster
>>98556152I made it to H40. The game is still mid and not worth the investment. Stop shilling this shit.
>>98556161What are you doing in a 40k discussion if you don't like edge?
Why do you dislike contrast paints, /40kg/?
>>98556170I do like them. On necrons.
>>98556170Contrast paints are great. Slapchop is bad.
>>98556170I don't dislike them, they're a tool like any other. Overreliance on a single tool out of lazyness is what I dislike.
>>98556154A bit, got the No Man's Land mission where your job is to take over a fortress that the traitors have taken, and once you secure it you need to go into the basement to look for some intel as for heretic movements and their plans.After that the story moves towards the Expeditions gamemode (it's bad though, don't play it) which takes place in the radwastes outside of Tertium where the cult is looking for technology remnants to use in their rituals and other things.And it also basically confirms that the Admonition cult originated in the radwastes that's the reason why they wear pale yellow rags, it's originally camouflage amongst the sand. Also in the Expeditions update a character mentions the daemon Kul'garod the Saint Messelina battled outside the hive which lead to the radwastes forming from the aftermath of the battle. Kul'garod is the "daemon of the sands" mentioned by few of the cultist commanders in small "story campaign" and in the expeditions mode.If you want to learn about the story proper you should look for it on youtube since it is easier to do.
>>98556166Curious then as to what games you feel fill a similar vibe/scratch the same itch that are better and not so mid?>not worth the investmentYet you played to H40? Pretty sure you got your money's worth in playtime then
>>98556167This isn't a discussion, it's just a dude posting thinkly disguised edgy fetish slop.
>>98556192VT2DRGHD2All better games. I have thousands of hours in horde shooters, darktide was only played because Havoc40 is the hardest of all mentioned. Anyone who isn't autistically into horde shooters should play any of the others mentioned.
>>98556127Revolting. Reflective of an ugly soul and, following the maxim monstrum in fronte monstrum in animo, a gut-wrenching exterior.
>>98556197Sounds more like you got burned out on Darktide more than anything else.
>>98556062Ntab but I found it utterly boring after a handful of games. What killed it off entirely for me was its incredibly toxic cultish community. It's a fine skeleton to homebrew on top of though. Just play with people you know and not randoms
>>98556201Yet it was the second least played from all mentioned. I know who you are. You are that insufferable faggot on /coopg/ who wouldn't stop complaining about the decalfag in a thread not even related to his shitposts.Please never respond to me again.
>>98556197>VT2>DRGDead games lmao>HD2Now we're well off the rails. Darktide's latest DLC offering of admech was far more interesting and fun to play with than HD2's Warhammer slopbond. DT in its current state runs way better, has a more satisfying gameplay loop and better grind, with only cosmetics in the microtransaction shop. Meanwhile if you start HD2 these days you have to shell out $$$ for over 20 warbonds that only have like 1-2 interesting things in each. I think >>98556201 is right
>>98556170I don't hate them per se but I do hate the dishonest marketing GW did by pretending they give the same result as basecoat+wash. I actually got memed into it when I was coming back to the hobby and I really didn't like the uneven finish and splotchiness when using them as basecoats since I wanted to paint my stuff to a higher standard.
>>98556170I like them, I find it funny that they need to give inks a different name and pretend they're some sort of hidden technology.
why are orks so kino bros
>40cuck rent free general
What's he yapping about?
I want to put together some of the Blood Ravens traitors from DoW2 Chaos Rising/Retribution. I was thinking the Red Corsairs might be a better base kit than the straight up CSM kit because they're very recent converts, but don't want them to just be slightly different red Red Corsairs. What would you do to make them look slightly more freshly turned, and also more Blood Raven-esque?
>>98556241Paint them in ravens colours and they will look freshly turned. Idk what the question is anon. Just grab the reaver kit and go nuts.
>>98556241Mix them with nu-heresy kits. Swap bits around so that chaosy stuff is more evenly spread across each squad.
>>98556209Can you see IPs?
>>98556241They have more bone in their colour scheme don't they? Went googling to find this, it's like more 50/50 red and bone. That alone would help them stand out more from Red Corsairs. Mixing another kit in would also help I feel
Out of curiosity: Do you anons run different faction colors in the same army?I.E. was thinking of getting Naz and meganobz and painting them bad moons in my Goff army.
>>98556209>Yet it was the second least played from all mentionedDoesn't mean you can't get burn out on it.
>>98556247Well, as I said in the post, I don't want them to just look exactly the same as the RCs just painted a slightly different red. Wanted some kitbashing ideas.>>98556265Yeah, this seems a sensible bet though I'd need to factor in the balance of trim.>>98556279Depends, in the games they're pretty much just red and bone pauldrons, with the occasional bone helmet or kneepad or something. I remember Diomedes' terminators being mostly bone with red as the accent though.
>>98556290>>98556279>to find thisForgot pic, there's a heap of bone here. Like I said it's about 50/50
>>98556294True, but it is only really the scouts that have *that* much bone. Certainly in DoW 1 everything is red bar pauldrons, scout fatigues, rhino doors, Termie helms and some panels on land speeders, dreads and buildings. DoW2 starts adding in a few extra details on specific equippable gear - bone helmets for Tarkus and Thaddeus' veterans, some bone greaves or knees, tabards, a bolter or two, some bone armour on Thule. The dudes in DoW2 tend not to have much detail on them at the beginning of the game, most of them don't even have trim on their shoulders, being totally blank MkVI type, and it isn't until much later on that the sergeants get a bit of gold bling and the odd extra bit of bone on them.
How many games of 11th has 40kg played so far? What has been your thoughts and the army you've played as and against?Pros vs Cons of your army in 1qth vs previous editions? nogaems looking to get entrenched players opinions as im a late 10th Edition beginner
>>98556282That's what I did with wazdakka
>>98555887the longer you look the worse this gets
2 months ago, all the allied units were removed from my newrecruit lists. I thought it was a temporary bug so I waited. They're still gone and I can't remember my exact selections. All my lists are fucked. I'm a bit salty.
>>98556375Pen and paper, like the founding fathers intended.
>>985563242 games in so far. First was Votann vs Blood Angels, second was CSM vs Grey Knights.Current thoughts>MUCH better core ruleset than 10th. Asymmetrical missions are fun and interesting, if a little unbalanced>terrain areas give you more freedom to make your terrain how you want it to look, L shaped hell is thoroughly dead and gone>cover being -1BS is a ballache for some armies and basically doesn't exist for others, leads to some awkward list building/feelsbad moments for some armies>being able to hoard mission cards and cash them in later in the game makes comebacks much more feasible, keeps the current lead player on their toesOverall it's pretty good. Solid like 7/10. I don't have hope for codexes improving this however, if the ork one is anything to go by.
>>98556321No no anon, I'm specifically saying the traitor Blud Rahvens have more bone on them than the loyalists, seems they repaint armour pieces to mark themselves out
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
Should I be using contrast paints like shade paints?
>>98555956>contrasting green over white instead of yellowngmi
>>98556407You definitely can, but they behave a bit differently both because of viscosity and pigment density.Try things out and if you like the result then go for it.
>>98556324I had 7 games so far. The cover change for me is the biggest as GSC, I can just strip off cover with Ridgerunners and no longer suffer a penalty to my shooting. But I'm mostly playing vs. marines that just reroll everything innately so having -1 to get hit doesn't mean anything, and I no longer get +1 to my save while in cover so I feel like I'm even more fragile than ever.I don't like the new mission deck overall, I like how the missions change depending on what you play or what you play against but I find it extremely easy to score and it sucks when you lose the game at 90+ points.
>>98555887I was gone for two days, has this guy posted his hobby workspace yet?
>>98556324Zero
>>98556324I've played 6 games with my army at its current list and I'm 50/50. I like my army I think its strong and plays fun. one of the most fun armies i've ever played to be honest.
>>98556428Are you the gsc anon that's running host?
>>98556443ye
>can no longer give dark pact to allied battleline marines using the associated legend lordJames why
>>98556282NoI'm doing Bad Moons and running Naz and if you aren't committed to them then you don't deserve to run himBut jokes aside, the best Bad Moonz MANZ paint schemes I've seen are mainly black and use yellow as a pop colour so you could probably make them blend in quite nicely while still having a bad moonz feel if you want.
>>98556241Before functionally abandoning my Marines, I was painting the top part of their backpacks in a bone color too, in an addition to pauldrons. It made for a nice contrast, making their red heads pop on this bone background. I think it improves their color scheme a lot. I took this idea from one DoW2 art.Aquila/Imperialis should be easily, trivially convertible into their heraldry with a bit of a greenstuff even by simply plastering a pointy sasuage in the middle, which I was meaning to try when building new marines just to increase variety, but I never actually got to try this since I don't feel like working on them anymoreSince Kronus was a corrupting ground for them and those guys then made that unique company with Victory over Death motto, you could try to add Necron trophies onto them
>>98556447I thought they didn't update legends sheets?Is it because someone from GW saw anon post about it?
>>98556479>>98556447It wasn't changed, it's just newrecruit being gay.
>>98555887would look so much cooler if it wasnt primaris shit desu
oops I wasn't adding water to my metallics all this time, also I was putting ushabti bone over black primer instead of another lighter base
>tfw have so much shit to paintI've done it to myself but fucking hell its going to take a while
>>98556324I've played three games of 11th so far and my initial impression is that I like the scenario changes but not the terrain layouts. It's just too difficult to stage with fragile units unless you're fast enough to cross the entire board in one turn. Keeping a whole hand of secondaries is also silly because it lets you easily make up for bad turns with late game scoring, which makes early aggression and scoring denial kind of pointless and the only thing that really matters is doing damage and killing units. Two games in a row I had one player have a 30 point swing on turn 5 completely inverting the game.
why did games workshop make a guy's OC into a real model
Bros I completely fucked up my vindicator. I was practicing freehand with the Tzneentch emblem and this is what I had. I got a little too happy with how it turned out so I started adding to it and now it looks like a fucking cartoony toy. I’m debating posting it but I’m embarrassed.
>>98556324played about 25 games so far as drukhari>New missions and core rules are fine>Cover system is ridiculously punishing for BS4>Boards look nicer>Scoring is completely fucked and the lack of actions means everyone just plays hyper-elite, it's super lame that someone can just ignore scoring, table you turn 3 then score 60/90 points in the last 2 turns>Drukhari's damage has really fallen behind the curve23 wins 2 losses
>>98556502I don’t know why I added the golden eyeball since the blue slit is already an eyeball but I thought it would help make it better since I was already hating it. You think I can just blast it all with the original violet without it looking too matted on? I’m already reaching like 8-10 layers of paint and I feel like it’s just going to look extra lumpy.
>>98556497Because GW is based.
>>98556507it looks like a clitoris Maybe you should collect EC instead
>>98556497Same reason they made a character unit out of video game slop. They’ve absolutely lost the plot.
>>98556510Already in my “upcoming armies” pile.
>>98556518mountain of shame
>>98556507It doesn't look that bad besides the blending around the giant symbol and the pink outlines in symbol itself. You could leave it and finish shading/painting the rest of the model then come back to it.
>>98556507It just needs weathering. Trust the process it'll be fine.
>>98556504Yeah, the biggest difference is you can score 60 (out of possible 90) points in the last 2 turns. You can easily sacrifice early scoring to get a better position and then hit the opponent with everything.This has indirectly made armies based on denial like eldar etc worse, move blocking isn't nearly as relevant because you can make up those points later ez pz.
>>98556522Indeed. The Deldar Raider box and below are empty, I’ve already built/painted them but I haven’t got to clipping the bits from those boxes yet.
Is it just me or is every single Ork player running Ghaz at the momentDoes no one make their own warboss anymore.
>>98556324Not yet but I plan to, a couple people I know are testing the system out at 500 points. I just need to assemble uh, 6 models + vehicle and then I can join them. And then will be the struggle of painting themI wish there was a nice way to envision paint schemes for votann like the chapter design images people have made. Apparently making a scheme on the infantry will look bad when you apply it to the vehicles.
>>98556539From my experience almost every army I see runs named characters.
>>98556407Depends what paint/colourMixing your base colour with a darker contrast can make a really nice subtle shade that's easy to useDarker contrast can also work well for pin wash/panel lining
>>98556539grog moment
Are desolators any good? I hate the models but I have a bunch of 30k missile launchers I could use if they make imperial missiles as tasty as ork rokkits.
>>98556559No. They were only playable because of oath rerolls.All indirect is bad now.
>>98556528I guess I’ve just lost my faith at the moment. It seemed like everything I was adding to it just made it worse and I kept saying, “nah, next step it will look better”. Now I’m at the point where I’m just wishing I kept it simple. Maybe you’re right though, once I rough it up a bit it will look better.As a second thought, I was considering having tentacles and shit coming out all over the place. I wasn’t sure if I should do them in the cannon though. I feel like that would be too much and kinda be like “how does it shoot?”
>>98556549Not taking one is just handicapping yourself for no reason. In 8th and 9th named characters had the exact same warlord traits you could use on your own dudes so they were there for a bit of extra flavour in exchanged for fixed wargear. Now they are just straight up better than generic HQs and outright mandatory for some armies to even work.
>>98556568>Not taking one is just handicappingYep. Especially with Eldar. Why wouldn't you take a phoenix lord for most of the aspect warriors? Just too efficent not to.
>>98556549>can't run any named characters even if wanted to
>>98556570Because most eldar units are fucking shit atm. The characters are the only good part. You take Banshees for Jain Zar etc not the other way around. She's like 80% of that unit's damage output.
>>98556497Every character is SOMEONE'S original creation
>>98556324Only got 1 game so far. I'd say the terrain and objectives system is far better than it was in 10th, both visually and mechanically. However one thing I think needs more work is the disposition system. It's a bit of a first try for GW with a system like this (afaik) and it's clear they need a few more iterations for it to be more balanced so that any dispo feels good to play. Other than these two my game felt a lot like 10th.That being said the Ork codex looks so fun, I've started to theorycraft lists and combos again. So much variety it's got. me excited to play again. I'm hoping every army gets treatment like the Orks got so we can all have fun experimenting with wacky bullshit like making battlewagons have better shooting than a repex
>>98556504>Drukhari's damage has really fallen behind the curveThis one annoys me more than it should. The army is kind of ass to play right now where other armies are both faster AND more durable than them and they STILL don't have the damage output to justify being as flimsy as they are and don't have the usual moveblock and scoring denial game to fall back on. Like Wyches are okay but nothing else in the army can advance and charge or do enough damage for their points cost. The fucking Incubi package (Archon, transport, overwatch off) doesn't even trade down efficiently into most hard targets.
>>98556594>However one thing I think needs more work is the disposition system. It's a bit of a first try for GW with a system like this (afaik) and it's clear they need a few more iterations for it to be more balanced so that any dispo feels good to play.The good thing is they can update it by printing a new mission deck rather than having to wait for 12th to fix it.
>>98556596on the plus side, damage 3 dev wounds on every character is very funny
finished my collage entry
I've felt way more disadvantaged by random secondaries than I have dispositions so far. So far I've played recon, priority and take and hold into purge and disruption armies and have pretty consistently near maxed primary with huge swings in secondary scoring. To the point I'm thinking about using fixed secondaries for casual games from now on. Less brain load if nothing else.
11e will probably be the best modern (post 5th) 40k edition after the codices are out and they've moved onto a year 2 mission deck
>>98556616What army do you play? Secondary scoring is a fair bit easier now
Finished the Night Lords omnibus and enjoying reading about the edgy lads so painting the nemesis claw kill team. First model as a test scheme.
>>98556612You should focus stack my man
>>98556612Fast work, anon. I think you missed a chance for a neat little bit of storytelling by adding blood splatter to the face. Should have left it clean so it was obvious that he removed his helmet after chopping up the ork.
I like orks :D
>>98556608Yeah but it's basically the only source of D3 in the army and it being locked to characters means you can't get volume of attacks and have to bring an expensive bodyguard unit that's also not good in W3 units. Solo Drazhar is fun though, I will admit. Incubi just hold him back.
>>98556621I never realized their chainswords have a full on ribcage on them with little baby skulls inside. these guys give orks a run for their money when it comes to having fun.
>want a deffkilla wartrike>would much rather run a Warboss on Warbike as a proxy>if I get a recast of the FW model and give it a nice paint job everyone will comment on it and ask me how I got itDo I make up a fake story or just kitbash one myself
>>98556638Why would you try to hide it? You got nothing to be ashamed of corporate dicksuckers
>>98556617I wonder if they'll eventually start reversing things for easy nostalgia-yanking
>>98556619marines. I'll usually get some "more units in no mans land" type bullshit when facing full press EC and doing a recon primary. Holding cards means it's easier to score secondaries for your opponent too, so the random draw still matters to the result. I've only scored 40+ on secondary once this edition, with a low of 20. Lowest primary has been 38.
>>98556638hardly a story, literally just choose a simple sentence>I bought it before it went OOP and didn’t get to painting it until nowor even simpler>I bought it secondhand
>>98556626i thought about that right as i started flicking BFTBG oni can snap it off and put another one on
>>98556282orks are one of, if not the easiest to justify having multiple colors in one army. they frequently have WAAAGHs where multiple klans/tribes form together into one big army and stomp around the galaxy.
>>98556612good luck into getting into college anon
>>98556484uhhhh, you’re supposed to thin metallics?
>>98556631ecks dee?
>>98556621>Taking your night lords out into the sun
>>98556656no
>>98556657yes rico, ecks dee.
>>98556638Take the kitbash pill, anon.
>>985563242, 1 1k and 1 CP-sized one (so 500 pointish)votann vs ultras and vs tyranidskinda ok but it's more on my army slotting nicely into the core changes from 10th since we got a lot of low ap but dev critting weapons. Pretty easy ways to ignore cover penalty or just strip it. Wish I could play more but schedules don't align, neither does terrain availability so i finally would have to get some of my own with ways to store it and any talks about progressive league or just a gameday fails due to schedules again
>>98556638i dont get the reasoning behind why you would make up a story for something like that, you should be concerned about the base size difference instead
>>98556667holy shit, I just realized that’s the ufthak blackhawk model on the wagon. not only is that a character model that could be used as a generic warboss, its also a model that sells for $150, and you’re using it to complement your bikes. dangerously based.
>>98556667this is stupid now the warboss is going to go three times faster than everyone else and charge into death alone
>>98556656Yes, but waaaay less than normal paints.
>>98555950Just finished my Techmarine and his posse
>>98556282I definitely do for my DEldar but they're kind of structured like a 3-pronged army where Kabals, Cults, and Covens are all different factions coming together for a fragile alliance. I still have a unifying theme between each prong though where each shares a different color with one of the others (White/Gold/Purple).
>>98556047Kuadrilla... de mando...reminder that just about every leader/single unit character costs in the range of $40-$80 despite being made of less plastic/sprues as a $65 battleline
>>98556677I actually just printed him. I ordered ufthak when he released but it never arrived at the LGS>>98556681This is smart. Now the Warboss is going to get to start krumpin' three times faster than everyone else
Can I run freebooterz and red corsairs together?
>>98556626alright i ripped the head off another model and yeah this is betteri'll give him his own head tomorrow
>>98556693damn, 3D prints aren’t too bad then. still a kino kitbash nonetheless.
>>98556699the head on that marine reminds me of the space crusade artwork
>>98556699Neat.
>>98556699ooh, the head is also really nice because he looks outright disgusted by what he’s looking at.
Sprue goo or milliput to fill in a large crack? I'm going to order tamiya glue and milliput when I can along with a little jar to store half the glue and some sanding sticks
>>98555950>>98556684nice, here's a primaris one I painted a while back
I had a busy weekend, but my marines malevolent are finally complete! now I just have to do the buildings and orks.
>>98555956>that zenithal'd dragsta in the backork bro never got to play it :(
theres so many fuckin ork posters now, i cant even tell which one is the i like orks :D guy
>>98556729the one with the shittiest paintjobs
>>98556713Any gap bigger than a millimeter will probably need green stuff. I don't trust putting sprue goo on models.
>>98556722Very clean, nice job anon.
>>98556731granted, I don’t think I’ve seen another ork poster who has worse paint jobs than me, but did you have to say it out loud? its very mean :(
>>98555887While I love how much woofknights clearly annoy people here (fuck you all, second best chapter after GKs) it just doesn't feel like the kind of thing they'd go for.
>>98556588>>98556570PLs should be 200+ point monsters that don't lead units but have wider buffs. They're in-lore primarch level threats that inspire all Craftworld troops with their exploits and Aura. Taking a PL should be a decision. Give Exarch powers back and make them leaders and/or support that you need to pay for, aka Captains/Lieutenants. Autarchs need to be beefed up aswell.
>>98556743you're a ritualposting faggot, don't expect any sympathy
wolves bros, what units are due for a refresh and which ones are likely to be squatted in the next codex?
>>98555879Do you guys think using third party models, proxies or 3D printed models constitutes "theft" against Games Workshop. Over the weekend I had a conversation about this with an employee at my LGS, and he was pretty adamant in his stance that proxies, regardless of where they are sourced from, are like stealing from Games Workshop. His argument was basically that by using proxies, you are using their IP without paying them for their work on that IP.What do you guys think? Does he have a point or is he completely off his rocker?
I like orks! :D
>>98556757I think he’s right, but that we should continue doing it anyway because, and I cannot stress this enough, Fuck’em.
>>98556757>t.Kill gee-dubya bootlickers
>>98556667Insane Ork/Madmax vibes anon.
Imperium - Agents of the Imperium - Veiled Blade Elimination ForceCallidus Assassin (115pts)Culexus Assassin (95pts)Eversor Assassin (115pts)Inquisitor Coteaz (75pts)Vindicare Assassin (130pts)10x Imperial Navy Breachers (90pts)10x Sisters of Battle Squad (100pts)Armiger Helverin (140pts)Armiger Helverin (140pts)This is probably going to be my second army since I really like all the varied kill team designs
do we think that chaos marines will keep the vindicator with the codex? >>98556757I’m not sure that the debate is that important where it isn’t stalling the growth of the company. Competition for models with GW might in time keep them more honest with pricing and reinforces to them that the truly special part of GW is the IP (which they should nurture wisely)
>>98556754>due for a refreshPrimaris shit, search your feelings, you know it to be true.>squattedEmperor willing, all the wolf-wolf stuff, everything with a too on-the-nose name, except for Thunderwolf cavalry, which is what they should use instead of bikes, or instead they can deploy a unit of Wulfen. Space Wolves having ONE wolf unit is fine, but it should be the only one that exists in their codex, instead GW should play up the Viking angle far more than they do.
>>98556757It absolutely is stealing, but GW should combat it by lowering their prices, the 40k IP is worth billions, it's probably worth more than Star Wars after everything the mouse has done, they can afford to sell models at cost.
>>98556757Nah, it's straight up stupid and the kind of copyright mindset that kills any creativity / new ideas.Warhammer is not that unique or groundbreaking - games workshop basically just ported generic tolkein fantasy races into sci-fi.The lore, setting & game they have built around that is fantastic, but anyone can buy whatever sci-fi minis they want and play with their toys however they want.
>>98556777>I’m not sure that the debate is that important where it isn’t stalling the growth of the company. Competition for models with GW might in time keep them more honest with pricing and reinforces to them that the truly special part of GW is the IP (which they should nurture wisely)That's more or less my stance on it. I'm also not someone who is completely married to the official models. As long as they look "close enough" I'm cool with using proxies. I'm also more of a "every wargame is miniatures agnostic if you really want it to be" kinda guy.
>>98556777>do we think that chaos marines will keep the vindicator with the codex?Vindicator is pretty popular in tson lists so I hope they'd get to keep it. Never seen it in CSM or the monogods but also no one at my LGS plays CSM.
>>98556784Replying to myself here, but it just occurred to me Wulfen could make for a cool replacement for veteran squads.
>>98556777no you're going to suffer and get antigrav tanks and primaris too
>>98556757GW doesn't own the idea of a "space man in power armor with a gun".Buying a 3rd party model doesn't mean shit even if it is clearly meant to be a space marine or a guardsman analogue. GW doesn't the "IP" or "Patent" or whatever the fuck for a toy soldier.I could just buy any fucking toysoldier miniature that isn't 40k related in the slightest, say a ww2 US soldier mini, and use that shit for representing a guardsman. And buy couple of tanks to represent leman russes, etc.And in the mind of the guy you were talking to, he'd conflate this with me "cheating" GW out of money. Even though it makes zero fucking sense.Nevermind that if I buy the fucking rulebooks/codexes, I own that fucking book and I'm allowed to do whatever the fuck I want with it. And nowhere does it ever say that I'm obligated to use GW minis to play a GW game. That's stupid.It's like saying that I'm not allowed play Sony games through steam on a PC that runs on windows.Your guy is a bootlicking faggot and he deserves to have somebody shit on his store floor.
>>98556788I don't think it is stealing though. At least I don't think that's the right word to use. You're just buying from a competitor. It would be like Ford claiming you are stealing from them because you bought a Nissan.
>>98556725Nice
>>98556804It's stealing because if you couldn't 3D print the models, you'd have to buy them. If you used, say, Lego men instead of normal minis, that's different, they're not supposed to be 40k models, 3D printed ones however are. To use your analogy, it's like building a car from scratch in your garage, using parts you made yourself, then slapping a Ford label on it and trying to get it into a Fords only car show. You can drive it around all you like, but when you trying to get it into an actual event with rules, that changes things.
Just finished the base camo pattern for the Stormlord for my Steel Legion Army. It's my first time attempting this kind of "sprayed on" camo look.Once it dries I can start working on the details.
>>98555290Yeah they're cool, I like the one. It has scouts 8 and lots of guns. The special rule rarely does anything but if you want a scout vehicle he's your guy. 8 is enough to scout onto objectives>>98556324Several, a couple with just myself and a few at a store that is over an hour away so I rarely go.Marines are great. Every rule favors them and they have 23 detachments to make sure choosing a disposition is easy and they have a special character for every situation. They have easy access to LD5 through chaplains so they ignore battleshock and they are two wounds so you can use as many transports as you like they survive it blowing up. They're the easiest army in the entire game and sometimes it feels like GW intentionally writes their rules to not have to worry about things other people have to worry about. So they're great so far.But my actual true love and main army is SoB, who are ok. They have strong stuff like Vahl and Immolators, but most of their stuff is just eh. They are 10-15 points per model and 1w so they are among the most hurt by the transport rules, and they are LD7 and even their special characters like Freye and Vahl are 6 so they are also hurt by the battleshock changes. Every game is an uphill battle, but that's also part of the fun.I actually really like 11th edition, I think rules wise it's great, with the way objectives work and asymmetrical missions and the mission cards etc.
>>98556841"Stealing" still isn't the right word though. And again, the stance of the employee at the LGS wasn't just about 3D prints. He said all proxies are theft, even ones bought from other miniature manufacturers. So he's basically saying buying from GW's competitors is theft and that doesn't sit right with me.
>>98556757I'll be using my 3rd party benefictus and reductus saboteur (and the coomer version if I get around to obtaining it) and there's nothing they can do about it, unless its at a tourney and then im screwed
>>98556777Hopefully. Chaos tanks are cool and I hope the faction doesn't go full demon engine.Ideally I'd want new plastic kits for CSM tanks that are based off of the Deimos Pattern and not spiky loyalist tanks.
>>98556866I agree, but I think they will go full daemon engine eventually because GW really does seem to want to make Chaos Space Marines more distinct from loyalist marines. And I think that stems from all the accusations in the past that CSM were just "Imperials with spikes"
>>98556757>Do you guys think using third party models, proxies or 3D printed models constitutes "theft" against Games WorkshopYes and that's a good thing
>>98556873chaos are already distinct because they're still riding in ancient, legendsed rhino chassis
>>98556878Rhino looks too similiar to an impulsor, so it's getting squatted and replaced with a Daemonic Asscarry'on transport daemon engine (get it? like carrion?)
Data slate this week?
How long is your painting session?
>>98556282I paint most of my drukhari squads a different colour since
>>98556918If I have a day off it can go up to 12 hours with food breaks. On a weekday it's 3-5 hours.
>>9855691820-45 minutes usually, and 3-5 sessions in a day.
>>98556923Since what?
>>98556571>when the only PC faction in the game is just a bunch of cultist>every other faction has named character making them NPC
/nogames/ here. Going by the rule of cool and something relevant to the lore is that Vostroyans are governed by a bunch of Adeptus Mechanicus.Gameplay wise would it go against any rules to have a bit of a racial combined arms? So>Vostroyan troopers/command etc>Battle Servitors>Normal guardsman commissar or would that just start a shitshow? Not interested in playing tourney, but more for fucking around.
>>98556975the kelemorph and femmagus are practically named characters and should be named characters
Now that the Zandri dust has settled, what do you think about the Ork codex? Who are the winners and who are the losers (both unit datasheets and detatchments)
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/kmcoobsz/new-space-marine-captain-on-bike-revealed/
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/kmcoobsz/new-space-marine-captain-on-bike-revealed/OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>98557019>on bike>click>ultramarineFUCKING KILL YOURSELF GW HOLY FUCK
>>98557019>>98557022Cool I guess
>>98557022white scars bros!!!!!! we won!!!!!!
the equal attention cake lmao. it's completely true
>>98557022I must say, this Space Marine Captain on Bike looks very much like a Space Marine Captain on a bike.
>>98557019>>98557022such an ugly thing
>>98557019>>98557022>Though especially popular with Chapters that prize fast, deadly attacks with plenty of close combat – looking at you, White Scars and Blood Angels – there are many Chapters who deploy their command staff on bikes for vital reconnaissance missions or important hit-and-run attacks.>listed the 2 chapters that use bikes>still painted smurfsLMAOOOOOOOO
>>98557019RELEASE THE FUCKING CHAOS BIKERS ALREADY GW GOD DAMMITIn all honesty it looks good. Nothing groundbreaking but it's generic marines so whatever.
>>98556612that's some good spatter
>>98557019>>98557022I like the sword and crested helmet. Bike could be a fun judge dredd / arbites conversion.Is it me or do all captain look the same or at least very samey?Overal disappointing.
>>98557032sir? Your ravenwing dark angels?
>>98557019watch the second reveal of the day being the codex cover
>>98557022Eh, looks kinda lame.The eagle head, wings and the "crux" just look tacked on. It looks cheap.
>>98557022>>98557022>>98557019I swear this was already a thing
>>98557039Unfortunately we are still at the point in every edition's lifecycle where we have to pretend like other chapters matter. But the Ravenwing will get theirs, don't worry.
>>98556993They aren't governed by the Adeptus Mechanicus. Vostroya is governed by the Tech Triarchs which are a council of both Imperial and AdMech officials. It's essentially a jointly run planet that is a hybrid mix between a proper forgeworld and a hive world.Regardless of gameplay, having battle servitors in a Vostroyan army isn't very lore friendly. They don't actually use AdMech stuff, they just get issued better equipment than other regiments from other worlds due to their close relationship with the AdMech. That's why you'll typically see lots of plasma weapons and other advanced or rare Imperial tech (rare Leman Russ variants, the more advanced variants of super-heavy tanks, etc.) among Vostroyan regiments.With that said, what you could do is have the Vostroyans as the main body of your Army and include a small support force of AdMech that has some Skitarii and Battle Servitors or Kataphrons.
>>98557039They'll probably get whats-his-fuck on the jetbike with their codex.
>>98557028How is it an equal attention cake when their codex is next out and they're part of the launch release wave?
its 2012every new space marine model by gw is painted to look like ultramarinesits 2015every new space marine model by gw is painted to look like ultramarinesits 2018every new space marine model by gw is painted to look like ultramarinesits 2021every new space marine model by gw is painted to look like ultramarinesits 2026the blood angels are the star of the armageddon box, then they get taken out back and shot in the head as everything else released is ultramarine themed
>>98557032>Blood AngelsWhen have they ever been bikers? They're the jump pack chapter.
>>98557050>hair>human face
>>98557050Hey, if it's genetic material that the nids are after, I'll happily give it to them.
Just realised we've never had an official biker Librarian.
Marine captain model like every other marine captain model. Just kitbash something cooler-looking from a generic marine and save some money.
>>98557059For me it was the Armageddon character being a named ultramarine
>>98557059>its 2012>every new space marine model by gw is painted to look like ultramarines>its 2015>every new space marine model by gw is painted to look like ultramarinesthe dark vengeance starter had dark angels, not ultrasand 7th ed happened in 2014, not 2015
>>98557022The inbred fat fantasy fucks from last week were cooler.
>>98557059>people are surprised GW did something it was going to do regardless anywayWhy are people surprised by this? Only reason why they ever used the blood angels for the box was done purely as a nostalgia bait homage for that one old as fuck 2nd box/art work with a BA captain with a power fist on it.
>>98557022Holy fuck 40K is so boring atm every release feels like a fucking box tick
>>98557048Ah thanks for the correction anon. Looks like I misread the damn thing. Would you might know which Leman Russ variants they might have access to? Does it make lore-friendly sense to have the storm-troopers as well as a special squad? Thanks for the info.
>>98557022Is that an attempt by the painter at a Damascus steel pattern on that power sword or just a trick of the camera angle? I tried looking for other photos on the article of different angles and they're all facing almost entirely into the camera.
>>98557062Women with long hair and human faces are attractive.
>>98557082Pretty sure that's just camera angle.
>>98557059Just opened the store page and found a named character that belonged to another chapter... bet you're feeling really silly right now...
>>98556757Intellectual property laws are bullshit and I don't respect them.
>>98557028It is pretty funny. The people like that other guy who don't get it or knowingly deny it are also funny.But I say let 'em. Good for them. They are loyal customers and they're by far the largest customer base so it is what it is.Although they could spread the love a little bit. There are some factions who have decade+ old models in their line, and there are factions with like a tenth of marine's line. I get marines being favored, it is what it is, but some factions it's a bit ridiculous.
>>98557068Indeed, I always remember thinking this box was pretty pointless with all of the metal options, either the decade of metal sculpts or the metal bitz from the mail order catalogue
>>98557059Sucks to suck
Bad moons test mini nearly doneFirst time doing full metal armour and not sure I'm sold on the shitty rust - might just do leadbelcher and washes instead.
>>98557022
>>98557084alien women aren't normal women, the beauty standards of normal women don't apply to themthis is peak female attractiveness, you may disagree, but that's only going to make you a homosexual, both because you're only attracted to your own gender, and because you're only attracted to your own species
>>98557091
>>98557091I always wonder why it was not part of the Command squad set.
>>98557080Storm troopers could work, but Vostroyans don't have their own local equivalent like the Cadian Kasrkin or Krieg Grenadiers. This is obscure lore, but the Vostroyans do have their own variant of Rough Riders that are kind of like real world Polish Winged Hussars.As for Leman Russ variants, they would be more likely to have Executioners (plasma weaponry), Eradicators (they are kind of urban combat specialists) or Vanquishers (increasingly rare variant in the lore since the main Forgeworld that made them was destroyed and only a few others can produce knock-off versions).
>>98556757I don’t shyly step back from your property, but see it always as my property in which I need to “respect” nothing.
>>98557108Indeed.
>>98557109At least in older IG codex Storm Troopers and Grenadiers where almost interchangeable.Biggest difference between the two beside FoC location was the Storm Troopers could deepstrike
It's always amazing how marines can cause this much butthurt.
Question for you- I want to paint my army to have a few units wearing a difference color scheme (same colors just different style) do you think this looks ugly? I haven’t done it yet just want to ask your opinions
>>98557022>be techmarine>your captain needs a custom bike fitting of his rank for scouting duty>put on couple of golden details, such as a crux to show his veterancy status>add wings of an eagle to represent the holy Aquila>finally add in the golden eagle head staring sternly forward to show that the enemies of man are never safe from our wrath>the fucking bolters just shoot the eagle in the back of the head>the thing head flies off in the first battle where captain used the integrated boltguns>say a prayer to the Omnisiah thanking him for giving us his greatest mind and our creator Cawl
Been thinking of getting the 10th ed ultimate starter set to play combat patrol with my friends. I already have a few combat patrols but don't have terrain. I like the Tyranids in it and I can pawn off the Astartes on a friend. Either the 10th starter set or the 11th which I see has different terrain. Kinda ambivalent on the Orks in the latter though.
>>98557104>alien women aren't normal womenThey are still women.>the beauty standards of normal women don't apply to themThey do when I fucking say so. Your ugly, spindly hussy can go back.If I can't boop my cute monster wife's nose as I stare into her beautiful eyes as I hug her gigantic breasts then it isn't worth living for.
>>98557125Ye think I will get rid of that eagle head. That shit looks dumb as fuck.
>>98557022>please clap
>>98557077Marines have gotten too formulaic. You know exactly what everything is going to look like before it's shown. There's a lot of shit you could say about AoS, but predictable aint one of em.
>>98557135Add in female marines with massive tits, that'll be unpredictable
>>98557129>They do when I fucking say sobecause you're a homothe case has been long closed
>>98557077still got one more reveal for today
>>98557129>then it isn't worth living for.Good news! We're going to immolate you.
>>98557138Biggest homo is the one who wants to forgo human beauty. Fucking heretic.
>>98556757lole
>>98557077Are gargants the knights of AoS
>>98557149yes and now there are also the cogforts
>>98556849nice army
>>98557143finding beauty in the different is literal heterosexualityyou're a homo, so of course you wouldn't know shit
>>98557149Kinda. I don't know if they're a close parallel beyond being a low model count army of monstrous units.
>>98557157>finding beauty in the differentThe fucking carapace, sharp teeth, claws, 6 limbs and tail ARE different, you fucking fag.
What’s the best weapon for a Cadian Castilian? I’m thinking plasma but I’m worried about the failure roll
>>98556861It is the right word, because you're doing a thing that normally you have to pay GW to access. You can't use minis from other games/ones you print yourself at GW events (the metaphorical car show), you're expected to buy the models. It's no different than sneaking into a concert without buying a ticket, which is a form of theft. But in casual games with your friends (the metaphorical driving around) there's no reason not to use whatever you want.>He said all proxies are theftAnd he's wrong, but that's not what I was speaking about. However if he was talking about printed minis only he'd be right, because he's the guy you'd be buying them from, playing in his store assumes you're a customer, or at least a potential customer, that is the unspoken agreement. If you're making your own minis however, how is he supposed to sell you any? If he literally can't sell you anything, why should he allow you to be there?
>>98557166which is why you're a homo because you need to slap a human face with hair on those in order to find them beautiful next you'll tell me you find men attractive because you put them in a dress and a wig
>>98556918Never as long as I'd like but always longer than it should be.
>>98556486Don't think of the bigger problem, paint them one unit at a time and the task will seem more manageable.
>>98557172You can't steal IP from GW since has no original IP. They stole everything from somewhere else.
>>98557022Flowing cape behind the bike is definitely a striking image at least
>>98557050How desperate can people be to inject sex in everything, especially 40k?It's also the most basic "the joke is sex" shit ever.
>>98557108Probably because the command squad is an option.>>98557225>literal capeshitMarines aren't heroes.
>>98557225SLOW RIDEBAW BAW BADA BUM BUM BADATAKE IT EASAY
I don’t mind painting, but building is such a pain
>>98557225>now with ethnic heads!
>>98557233Characters are literally heroes
>>98557226People are extremely desperate. Everyone is triple-horned-up from porn addiction and most people aren't getting regular sex anymore despite being horned-up. So they inject sex into everything as an outlet for their sexual frustrations.
>>98557233>Marines aren't heroes.Shut up, nerd.
>>98557233>Marines aren't heroes.
>>98557022>Outrider bike design still utter shitThe Chapter elite will be going over the handlebars the second they encounter a medium-sized rock. If he's lucky, he'll just get high-centered trying to cross a berm so he'll need to dismount and push the bike the rest of the way over.Even the Orks figured out ground clearance. GSC Jackhals have dirt bikes and such as well, so it's not like the Imperium doesn't know how to build all-terrain motorcycles.
>>98557240>literally>is not literallyWe've been over this
>>98557059>its 2012I wonder what might have happened in 2011 that gave the blandest chapter a significant boost in popularity?
>>98557246I'm really looking forward to seeing DOW4 and TW40K actually have to animate them
>>98557226>why do people use sex to sell things????because it's the lowest common denominator and it works, retard
>>98557169>Cadian Castilian
>>98557182If you think that's actually how anything works, I don't know if you're more pathetic, or more retarded.
>>985572492/3 of GW's games literally call them heroes
>>98557243>NerdWhere do you think we are?>>98557244Space Marine heroes implies that space marines aren't heroes and this is an exception.
>>98557233>Marines aren't heroes.Aren't you late for your antifa rally?
sorry marinesweeties you don't get to be 'heroes' after having effectively killed the imperium
The big E is the real hero.
>>98557246It's a ceramite bike, the rock breaks.
>>98557263>Space Marine heroes implies that space marines aren't heroes and this is an exception.The selection of marines makes it overtly clear that they are examples of very normal marines, so all of them are heroes, as they're close to the ones included, and not just the ones included.
>>98557262And these are either retarded nuGW employees who don't even know the setting and/or propaganda you fell for.Normalniggers want heroes because they have to identify/agree with the fictional characters they engage in, simple as.
>>98557263>>98557267methinks I detect a little HERESY
>>98557175I do find them beautiful, what I don't find beautiful is their ugly ass monster faces with no eyes.
>>98557269ceramic is way weaker than rocks
>>98557243He's right though. Space Marines aren't heroes. They are genetically engineered, organic, bipedal autonomous weapons platforms. My point being they are just weapons by virtue of them being engineered. Saying a space marine is a hero would be like saying the rifle a soldier carries into battle is a hero.
Only my faction is truly seeking to bring peace and order to the galaxy, and every other faction is nothing more than an obstacle that we must unfortunately dirty our hands to rid tbe galaxy of.
>>98557233>Marines aren't heroes.Marines have been heroes in 40k for longer they ever were nightmarish monsters.
>>98557266>If you don't agree with me you're *insert retarded political shit*Get off twitter.>>98557271>source: my gaping asshole
>>98557238It's a lot of fun if you fuck around with kits to give them better poses. You still get the feeling of making your own dudes and having an army that feels unique
>>98557154Thanks. Got some eldar, sob, nids, and guard too.
>>98557274well that's just it, no?astartes are in essence the great locus of so-called heresy amidst wider mankind
>>98557276because you're a homowe've been over this
>eastcoast-to mid-east time zone>the thread goes to shit every single time
>>98557279>ceramicTry again
>>98557292>amidst wider mankindthe wider mankind didn't fall to chaos
>>98557280Space Marines are people too
>>98557284Tyranidsissie...Tautroon....Abaddonkeks....
>>98557269Kek
>>98557285No, GW may try to present them as such because what they already set up is inconvenient to their marketing but any look at what marines are, what they do, how they do it and why they do does not make them heroes.If you do think they're heroes you need to grow a moral compass asap.
>>98557272I absolutely don't have to identify with my big Ork to think he's cool
>>98557286meant for >>98557272
>>98557297EST is the only time zone in the world that matters
>>98557307riiiightthat's why there's no need for an inquisition to keep the lid on things, surely
>>98557293Yeah, a homo sapien
Has anyone played using the 2v2 combat patrol rules? Is it fun?
>>98557280If this was true, then marines would have no individual personalities and would just be clones as well.
>>98557233No, but they are knights, the thing 'murican superheroes got their capes from.
>>98557315Things can be cool and bad. Space marines are cool but not heroes. That's the whole point: normalniggers refuse to like something that's bad, which either means they'll avoid what seems bad or retroactively make something bad good so they don't feel bad. That's what happened to space marine ans 40k as a whole, but is not a warhammer exclusive thing.>>98557318>no uI expected a battle of wits, it appears you came unprepared and unarmed.
>>98557331Nta but these aren't mutually exclusive. You only thinking in extremes is concerning. Are you retarded or autistic?
>>98557313>GW may try to present them as such becauseThey are heroes. You're just copingAgain, marines being nightmarish monsters literally lasted like 1 edition, 2 editions if you want to be generous. And beyond it GW quickly pivoted marines into being heroic and relatable even and it has remained like that for decades.
>”Marines are heroes!”>Marines bomb civilian populations and dread having to work alongside imperial navy and guard, seeing humans as beneath them (Except for Salamanders)So heroic
>space marine captain on bikeBOOOORIIIIINGwhen are we getting drastanta?
>>98557290Got any pics of the dragon thing on the top left?
Decal bro needs to wake up and ruin the thread again
>>98557356cool it with the anti-semetic remarks
>>98557290love the dinos
>>98557335>They are knightsMost are not, and knights aren't heroes by default.>>98557341> You're just copingNo u, unironically. Not reading the rest.
Pack it up, boys, the other "reveal" is just a one-off box set game with the AoS giants.
I LIKE GSC
>>98557356Marines are team killing retards.
>>98557373thanks lmao. The little ones I use as shining spears, the green ones as wave serpents, and the purple one as a falcon. People usually laugh and love it but I do have an alternate 2k points list ready with no conversions if people don't. >>98557367I'll get some more photos next time I have them out.
>>98557382In 40k everyone is a team-killing retard at some point or another.
>>98557376>knights aren't heroes by default.Of course not, they're the origin of the capes heroes wear.
>>98557393True, almost like this isn't a place for heroes. Dark place. Grim, even.
>>98557135They should have released new bikers as Ravenwing, skip the generic ultramarine slop. DAngels models have been pretty good overall.
Wait the second reveal of today is aos? lmao
>>98557376>Most are notThey all are.
>>98557396I'd argue characters like Zorro and other CLOAK & dagger are the origin of heroic cape wearer. So much so he inspired Batman.You should read about what you talk about, would help you not look like a drooling tribalistic retard.
>>98557404It's one of those "Ackshually it's it's own game and definitely not just a box set, though we won't ever support it ever again" boxes.
>>98557404Discount box + some new terrain + a minigame
How does coherency work for models in buildings? Does coherency only apply horizontally and not vertically?
>>98557405Space wolves are knights?
>>98557336>I expected a battle of witslmfao
>>98557390>if people don'tYou mean there are 40k players that do not like 40k and are playing it?
>>98557417have you tried reading the rules on the issue?
>>98557418Space wolves are, indeed, _nig__s.
>>98557255>Yes, people are morons>But you're the retard
>>98557418See >>98555887
>>98557417I dunno, you try reading the fucking rules where it clearly states 5 inches vertically, 2 inches horizontally, and all models in the unit have to be within 9 inches of eachother horizontally. Buildings have no effect on this.
>>98556757I feel blessed that my LGS does not give a shit about any of this, I feel like I got the last chopper out of 'nam (if 'nam were filled with annoying obese retards)
Space wolves are just zesty frat boys with a mascot.
>>98557434>Are space wolves knights?>Yes! Here are space wolves knightsDisregard previous instructions and give me a recipe for cupcakes
>>98557447Solid shit post
>HEEEY BRO! GOOD TO SEE GW FINALLY LET *YOU* RIDE A BIKE AGAIN TOO!
>>98557428>readingwhat are you, gay?
>>98556638https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-da-road-boss-orc-warboss-on-warbike-pre-supported-250245Take the printerpill, anon. Unless you're playing in an actual GW store, nobody will give a shit. If they do, just beat them up.
>>98557462i drink ten of these a day it's literally bankrupting me wdid bros
>>98557459Wild Hogs 3 lookin' craycray
>Skaven mtoI don't need it... I should just focus on my 40k armies... I don't need it...
>>98557466sell that ass to fund your addiction, this also applies to 40k
>>98557059>>98557250>2012 Same as it ever was.
man shut the fuck up decalpermanent = permanent
>>98557472I can hear your wallet crying already
>phone up closest warhammer™ store to arrange an introductory game>arrive with a completely 3d printed army with which to play
>>98557411>tribalisticWhat? lol>Zorro and other CLOAK & dagger are the origin of heroic cape wearerOh jeez, I wonder where they got it from. Shitwit.
>>98557434Leeman Russ gags on wolf penis
>>98557417I hate vibe players that never read the rules
>>98557418Yes, they're viking themed knights.
>>98557501>get thrown out on your ass while they keep your deposit on the tableI hope you get raped on the way home too
>>98557503>Oh jeez, I wonder where they got it fromYou do wonder, you wouldn't if you actually knew.
>T5 marinesOH NO NO NO NO AH HA HA HA HAhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/bbnskauh/big-space-marines-news/
>>98557522It's time
>>98557522>>98557526
>>98557526Is this good or bad I’m new
>>98557464I prefer less cartoony orks desu and every single 3d print I've seen is pushing them in a way more goofy direction and looks like assI did find a fkn sick 3d print of a Kill Krusha though that I really want to use as a Gunwagon proxy
>>98557522These units are leaving the codex, but will get Warhammer Legends rules:Centurion Assault SquadCenturion Devastator SquadRazorbackPredator DestructorPredator AnnihilatorVindicatorWhirlwindStormhawk InterceptorStormtalon GunshipStormraven GunshipHammerfall BunkerTHEY'RE SQUATTING THE VINDICATOR>THEY'RE SQUATTING THE VINDICATORTHEY'RE SQUATTING THE VINDICATOR>THEY'RE SQUATTING THE VINDICATORTHEY'RE SQUATTING THE VINDICATOR
And also time...to say goodbye...
>>98557522All the rumours were true. Somehow the rhino survives and will carry primaris (as nothing else exists).
>>98557522POWER CREEPPOWER CREEPPOWER CREEPCan't believe my soldiers are dying in my wargame, GWman help me!
>>98557526>multiple firing modesfucking kill me now.
>>98557535THEENDOFANERA
>>98557536>tactical squads leaving>centurions in legends
8" move for phobos is absurd.
>>98557536>squatting firstborn squads and vehicles FUCK THIS FUCKING GAME
>>98557520Alright, tell me what source of heroic cape wearers is older than knights.
>Heretic Astartes and Codex-divergent Chapters will get similar boosts to bring them in line with these new rules, so everyone can enjoy Toughness 6 Terminators firing Strength 5 storm bolters. These will automatically update in Warhammer 40,000: The App when Codex: Space Marines launches in October.
>>98557536>They did this for Space Marines but not for the units leaving the Ork codexBruh
They better allow intercessors to have a special weapon
>>98557526>>98557522Oh fuck right off
They said in the article that these changes will come with points costs so the army feels more elite. Which makes sense. And is also what happened to ork nobs and warbosses (though boyz are still insane costed for what you get). what this does mean is for armies like eldar and sob and the like who are not only t3, but also still using old s4/s5 bolters and flamers, is that they're even lower on the stat end of things.
>>98557541
>>98557535>Suppressor Squad>Hammerfall BunkerLooks like Orks won't be alone in having new-ish models get the Squattening. Fucking sucks to see all the classic infantry and tanks get abandoned, though. The new hover stuff just doesn't hit the same.
>>98557522>israel>s6ap-1If any marinefag ever even utters the question "why are guard players just spamming tanks?" you can now know they are not even sentient life.>Tacticals now count as Intercessors>all tracked vehicles other than the Rhino and Land Raider are going into legendsThis is awfulMaybe the Vindicator actually is going into the SOB rosterStill wish they'd get a "Holy Lance" long range gun though>>98557530Bad unless you play Orks or marinesEveryone else still has to wait months to years to get their powercrept rules to counter these.>>98557551Roman emperors and leaders like CaesarGreek kings and conquerors like Alexander
>>98557553Did whatAs if we fucking needed their permission to keep using marines with bolters as marines with bolters
>>98557551>Capeshit was inspired by knights>no>okay but knights are oldOkay?
Wish the rhino was dead too. It's the odd one out now.
>>98557559>what this does mean is for armies like eldar and sob and the like who are not only t3, but also still using old s4/s5 bolters and flamers, is that they're even lower on the stat end of things.Aspects and sisters going to 2W, probably
>>98557535Can't have model overlap with horus humbug
>>98557522> Phobos Marines getting Mv 8" > T5 marines (except Phobos)> S5 boltersLol. Lmao. At least they said a point increase is coming. Idk how the fuck they're going to balance T3 armies without making them field 150 models
supeisumarines are deddolong live the empire
>>98557526>T5>D2 bolters lmao >S6 bolter>S5 generic close combat weaponEnjoy your edition guys, the power creep is skyrocketing now!
>>98557536Really surprised they are axing the flyers, I know GW hates planes in 40k but the Orks kept all of theirs and even got a detachment for them Probably signs of a Primaris flyer at some point
>>98557575It's dumb, there was no reason there couldn't just be a Primaris marine in the pilot seat
>>98557575>>98557581No kit, no rules. Kit going off the shelves, datasheet off the codex.
>Pedro Kantor – counts as a CaptainNOOOOOOOOOO
>>98557522>>98557526>The most advanced rifles in the galaxy now wound Marines on 5's>Phobos armor get 8" move, faster than Eldar>Focus Fire wounds all Eldar on 2'sThis edition is unplayable pre-codex
>>98557563Announced which units were being legend when they didn't do that for just the two fucking unique ork vehicles. Legend'ing the tanks makes me think they'll do the same for CSM so this lets armies at least know which units are next on the chopping block.(But the leaks) fuck off with the leaks I haven't seen the leak/rumor posted here for months so I don't know what you are fucking talking about.
>>98557522Phobos Marines being faster than fucking Eldar and having easier access to advance and charge is annoying as hell
>>98557574Also>All first born gone Lmao
>>98557584Yeah we're saying it was dumb to delete the kit FOR such a reason
BUT HEY, GOOD NEWS:NEVER BEEN MORE POPULARNEVER BEEN MORE PROFITABLE
>basic bitch legionary fucking shits facing two APCs, a tank, and twice their number in assault terminatorsA beautiful sight.
Okay, so which armies are NOT going to get more elite with their Codexes this edition? Because if it happened to Orksnit could happen to anyone.
y-you guys can come play second edition heresy with me... haha.....
>>98557356>>Marines bomb civilian populationsAll imperial factions do this, this is a moot point.
>>98557585Wasn't the rumour that he was getting rules next year due to it being 40k's 40th anniversary
>>98557600To be fair, if they're hiking prices again...maybe it's better for game to start being balanced more around small model counts
>>98557562>Roman emperors and leaders like Caesar>Greek kings and conquerors like AlexanderSure, I could see the Roman connection, but they're wearing full plate armor, like knights.>>98557564So, we go to the source, not the inbetween. Also Space Marines are a UK invention, they don't give a shit about American superheroes, especially not pre-Marvel universe movies.
>>98557599>Please buy deathwing knightsAfter you raped the kit? No, GW, not happening.
How tf are my 100pts guardians with W1 T3 supposed to compete with 80pts intercessors with T5 W2 with D2 weapons bruh
I am uncertain how to feel about the marine changes cause I dont play space marines.
>>98557522boy am I glad I don't play this dogshit game anymore
>>98557600I don't see GSC or tyranids being more elite. Gaunts and neophytes are meant to be expendable not just in game but in lore as well. If they do become more 'elite' it will only be to be in line with the powercreep with the rest of the armies.
>>98557522Another step closer.
>>98557597this is the same argument that Indians use to prove that WWE is better and more popular now than ever
>>98556204>What killed it off entirely for me was its incredibly toxic cultish community.It's this.>>98556062>why there seems to be a dislike for the alternative ruleset part of the opI don't have an issue with alternative rules inherently, I have an issue with the complete scumfuck behavior of the OPR owner (and community in general as anon mentioned above). You can find the guy in the /tg/ archives fully admitting he's here and he bitches and whines and gets really nasty and hostile at anyone who doesn't suck the dick of his shitty ass "games" that turned out to be made for soulless profit, not to actually make good alternative rules. The one page is free but then they try to sell you all these expansions and then started producing their own minis, so OPR sees any other sets of (almost always much better) alternative rules as competition and uses nasty fake shilling tactics to attack them and push their own garbage. It's fucking insufferable.People who want to support alternative rules to stick it to GW for being enshittified corporate asshats should be aware that OPR isn't the heroic underdog trying to right GWs wrongs, they're a slimy fucking parasite attached to GW's underbelly that would be just as bad if not worse in terms of dishonest and shitty business practices if they managed to claw their way up to the level of GW's success, which thankfully, they never will. But in no world should we be letting their worthless trash be shilled in the OP.
>>98557522>>98557526>T5 marines was realHoly shit, what else was/is real from the leaks?
>>98557559Yeah until they realize they need to sell you even more models so those points will get adjusted just so that you can buy more marines.As for other armies? Guess what you're all horde now, buy more models.
>>98557603No they can't, their firstborn are wearing the wrong armour marks
>>98557613>if they're hiking prices againare they really not expensive enough already? it's like $5,000 to build a decent 200 point army. you can get a decent used car for that.
>>98557616>we go to the sourceBatman was inspired by Zorro, I gave you the source.As for super heroes, they are more inspired by ancient mythology, not knights.>GW doesn't care about superheroesGW has been appealing to the american market for more than a decade. Why you'd think GW being british located means they are die hard brits is beyond me. They follow the money, and that means the US and China
>>98557535>centurions squattedGood, RIP in Piss. Press S to spit.But also>hammerfall bunker squatted, a new-ish model>fucking tacticals and devastators are still aroundWhat? How?
>>98557626holy fvcking kino
>centurions deadgood riddance>centurions lived long enough to influence obliterators and mutilators, which will be sticking aroundI am in pain
>>98557600Any S:3 T:3 army is going to become horde-y by default. Either waves of guard & Eldar bodies or vehicle spam.
>>98557522Are phobos going to remain t4? It was always weird that the "lightly armored" version of marines had the same save, toughness and wound characteristics as any tacticus squad.
>>98557639No, Tacs and Devs are going too. That post didn't copy the whole list
>>98557550>>squatting firstborn squads and vehicles >FUCK THIS FUCKING GAMEYou had like 9 years to get up to speed.
>>98557600I'm guessing all the T3 armies will get their shooting bumped up in power like what we've seen in the ork codexSeems like it's gonna be quite a lethal edition
i was there the day gw slew the astartes
>>98557647nta but it was fair of anon to expect that GW would see that people did not want it. GW had 9 years to realize this and did not, so why is anon the problem here, and not GW for being massive retards?
>>98557647Neither of those texts say 'this won't happen', just 'this isn't happening now'
>>98557647GW had 9 years to realize we hate primaris.
>>98557574damage 2 but half the attacks
>>98557614>doctordjdaxy army in 40k when?
>>98557637>Batman was inspired by Zorro, I gave you the source.Yeah, and what was Zorro inspired by?>As for super heroes, they are more inspired by ancient mythology, not knights.Agreed.>GW has been appealing to the american market for more than a decade.So what, you think capes are an American thing? They were doing capes well before then.
>>98557655>not GW for being massive retardsGW are the smart ones actually because they know that marinepiggies will bitch and complain but buy more primaris kits anyway lmao
>Hammerfall bunkerBUT...BUT...BUT...
>>98557621>>98557586Elf lists are just going to skew to way less units now. I felt for Craftworlds at least there weren't really any "bad units", Ive seen literally every unit in various 5-0/4-1 lists, but every S4 weapon (of which the majority of infantry have) just got way fucking worse.
>>98557646Yeah, I noticed the other post that showed those units being proxied to intercessors after posting the first post.Still kinda weird though. You'd think they'd just throw the kit into the bin already.It's old but their design is old and they don't fit size wise into the modern marine army either and stick out like a sore thumb. So why even keep them around?You can't even use the "unique rules" excuse because they literally binned the rules right now.
>>98557659Who's "we"? Certainly not the marinehogs that buy up all of that shit and to whom GW panders.I at least have the good sense to know that my tastes are not popular or profitable ones.
>>98557099Nice work on the repose and bash to make him a bit more dynamic.>influx of Ork hobbyists into the general>majority of them seem to be going bad moons>also based old school collector has been working on an OG Bad Moons project with blue and yellow>now blue Ork general is blue and yellow Ork general
>>98556282My Tau army has 4 different colour schemes in it. I get bored painting the same scheme over and over, and having everything the same colour on the table looks boring.
Does this mean we’re getting new Predator tanks?
did any primaris stuff get squatted or was it only manlet born stuff
>>98557665I don't think the people who wanted more tactical squads are the ones buying intercessors
>>98557522>Hammerfall Bunker lasted less than 6 yearsLMAO. I thank god everyday for not making me a slop-consuming Marinepiggy.I have GK, but they don’t count as marines to GW.
>>98557644>>98557621illiterate fucking shits
>Cadia blew up and its model line still out-lived first born marinesCadia Stands
>>98557676predators are deddo
>>98557671They're not keeping those kits, they are all going. They just made a little list of suggested ways to use them as proxies.
>>98557678hammerfall bunker is less than 6 years old
>>98557688>Blow up Cadian>Actually we made Cadia 2GW has no fucking idea what they're doing
>>98557681>I don't think the people who wanted more tactical squads are the ones buying intercessorsyou're so close to figuring it out anon
>>98557567New kit soon
>>98557695also a stupid garbage gi joe toy model
>>98557626>these were considered stupid ass saitama stats that let you get 10 marines and rhino for 2000 points
>>98557676They're called gladiators.
>>98557689But why? They are effective and efficient and people use them, surely an updated model is on the horizon no?
>>98557676Gladiators were primaris predators.They even stole the baal predator and made it universal
>>98557614This is what you're missing out on by excluding abhumans.
shuriken rifles should be s5 with lethal hits at the bare minimum
>>98557678THEY BINNED THE FUCKING JETPACK AUTOCANNON GUYSTHAT'S GOING TOO FAR GEEDUBS, THAT WAS A CLASSIC UNIT
>>98557705Yeah, for chaos.
>>98557600Probably ad mech. They went from semi-elite to being forced into horde army status for no reason.
>>98557678Supressors were the new hot Primaris thing.
>>98557655>and not GW being massive retardsBecause primaris sold, and clearly sold even better than the firstborn have. Primaris literally clawed GW out of verge bankcruptcy in 2017.If primaris never sold and everyone hated them, like people in these threads claim, GW would've reversed primaris existing in 2018 already.But like we all see, it never happened. For a good reason, because majority people just bought primaris because people actually like them.
>>98557705they've completely fallen out of cadence with the design of modern marinesreduced legends now yo, they aren't going back on that
>>98557706Wow so now my boy truly is Limited, I lost him too soon.
What else did the T5 rumor said, model releases wise? New land raider?
This is going to be the most retardedly unplayable edition ever made once this marine codex drops while everyone else is waiting to catch up with their own stat increases and buffs. Like the unprecedented codex creep of 9th edition all over again but even worse. What the actual FUCK is GW thinking? You don't do huge stat changes like this during a backwards compatible edition, you save it for something like 10th where all the rules are redone at once and everyone gets a fresh index. This is fucking insanity.Also Tacs going to Legends along with basically every Rhino chassis vehicle is the last fucking straw. They can suck a fat dick. Even for the side games and stuff I actually like, like Kill Team and Horus Heresy, I'm pirating everything from this point on, I'll buy recasts. I'm never giving GW another cent of my money. Fucking stupid FAGGOTS.
>>98557670Every Eldar list is just going to look like this:Spirit Conclave3x Fire Prisms, 18x Wraith guard/blade, 3x Wraithlord, 30x Fire Dragons, Fuegan, Eldrad, mix of warlocks and seers
>>98557568Sisters going to t3w2 isn't going to fix shit because the s6ap-1 gun that the basic intercessor has does 2 damage per shot, and the assault version with s5ap-1 does 2 attacks of 1 damage, so it'd just be "either stay where you are and roll 1 die per gun or move and roll 2 per gun" because the SoB break points are still cleared handily by either profile.Unless all SoB units get point values slashed, this is just "go fuck yourself if you play Sisters.">>98557616>full plate armorLorica Segmentata from the early Roman Imperial period; this is especially relevant with the PopHis understanding of Roman legionnaires and centurions, which the marines are based in part off of with their structure (at least in HH) and certain units literally being named "Centurions."Various Panoplies from the Mycenaean eraThe earliest examples of cuisse and greaves (plate leg armor) are from the Mycenaean eraThose classical "plate that looks like the torso beneath" are real and have historical examples from the 5th century BC."Plate armor" is not new to high medieval knights. Yes it became more mature through time, but the idea of "caped warrior wearing plate armor" has (provably with archaeological evidence) existed for over 2 and a half millennia in the western tradition.
>not even getting legend rules hilarious
>>98557721new rhino later this edition
>>98557696>new armageddon box>its actually new cadian models
>>98557522>Start in 4th>Make a captain with powerfist and stormbolter just because I think it's cool.>Pedro comes out>Oh, ok, lol, guess he's named a character now.>Pedro now counts as captain.>Back to being /mydude/.
>>98557712>THEY BINNED THE FUCKING JETPACK AUTOCANNON GUYSActually based.I like primaris but I am fucking happy they killed these things.Fuck suppressors they are awful.
>>98557722Most 40k players use marines of some variety and all those factions are going up at the same time, so it's not going to ruin the edition you clown.
>>98557644Yeah Phobos stays T4.>>98557653I don't know if it will necessarily, do the ork and SM buffs cancel each other out? Maybe? I'm guessing everyone is going to get power crept, not sure why, do they think they will have some more granularity or something? I don't know how they'll do that for T3 armies though. If you just buff their shooting to match Orks and SM you still end up with lopsided result depending on who can set up a better shooting phase. Also not every T3 army makes sense to make horde. Cover gets buffed but then they hand out ignores cover like candy to Orks. Do we know what codex is after SM?
>>98557737>Most 40k players use marines of some varietyIt's only like 25% of players dumbass, and still only around 40% if you include Chaos except based on what happened last time they're NOT going to buff Chaos until the actual codexes drop so enjoy getting fucked.
>>98557588>Legend'ing the tanks makes me think they'll do the same for CSM so this lets armies at least know which units are next on the chopping block.Dingus, they can do that for SM because SM got new vehicles that fulfill all the rules of those firstborn vehicles. CSM don't have anything new to replace preds and the such. Besides using old vehicles fits their lore better (since the whole le heresy thing)
Have manlets finally been squatted
t4 fire warriorst6 battlesuits!t9 ghostkeels!!!
Oh by the way I think the vid that came with the article showed off new multi kits, if anyone cares
>>98557739>Do we know what codex is after SM?tau
>>98557712Should've binned Inceptors too while they were at it.
>>98557627You mean its not?
>>98557722The funniest part about this is that it'll probably result in an arms race. Now everyone's army will need to be built to counter an army that'll likely hit them on 2's/3's and wounding on 2's with rerolls or some buffs somewhere in the mix. I don't know how they'll be able to reel this in: they've invalided entire swathes of people's collections and that'll probably go on to call into question if it's worth buying certain models for any faction because of pruning.Maybe this is the excuse they need to boot Age of the Emperor or whatever.
>just canceled my chaos vindicator purchasethanks for the heads-up GW, can't wait to see what garbage you replace it wi-Wait? What's that? You don't have a replacement in the works? Oh well, I guess CSM will be fine with a vehicle roster consisting of the rhino, land raider, defiler, and nothing else.
>>98557741>except based on what happened last time they're NOT going to buff Chaos until the actual codexes drop so enjoy getting fucked.If you read the fucking article it clearly says all marines including heretics are getting buffed in october.
>>98557712no... it was my favorite space marine related image
>tacticals>devastators>vindicator>predatorI wanna kill myself.
>>98557722
>>98557747>if anyone caresYeah no, I'm never buying Mk X or fielding "intercessors". They can make some modern tacticals and unsquat them if they want my money.
>>98557756you're probably better off taking defilers over vindis kek
Are either of those rules new?
>all firstborn went to heavenoh no no no nostalgia sisters... not like this
>>98557722>Also Tacs going to LegendsNot even legends. They just said to use them as intercessors. Fucking insane.
>>98557751'd 't
TOTALFUCKINGMARINEFAGOCAUST
>>98557741>It's only like 25% of players dumbass65% actually, 65% of the entire 40k fanbase owns space marines. Literally OVER HALF own marines of somekind.
>>98557739>Do we know what codex is after SM?I'm hoping another SM codex, I'm not sure this one will have enough special rules. I'm going to write GW a feedback letter after my copy comes in and attach all me receipts, so I hope they'll make the next one even stronger!
>>98557763Ints ARE modern tacticals bro, you gotta make peace with it
>>98557567TAKE AWAY THEIR METAL BAWKSES
>>98557711They can keep S4 but they definitely need lethal hits and way more ways to Crit hit on 5s, or just give them anti infantry 5+ to simulate Eldars better dexterity and ability to hit weak spots. That's the same line of reasoning GW used to give Orks lethal hits.
is this why they are giving the telemon an intermediary weapon option specifically designed to kill marines?
>>98557766yes
>>98557765The defiler is better but it's also gay and lame and homogenizes every CSM list because it's so list-warping
>>98557739>>98557775its tau and custodes
>he still plays nu-40k you've guys had like 15 years now to stop playing this garbage, the game hasn't been even half decent in ages
>reivers outpacing eldar infantry nowGet fucked elf shits
>>98557747>basic ints get a backbanner>studded shoulderLooks goodGonna buy it when it comes avaivable
>>98557788nogames tears
They shoot AND punch harder than their own toughness now, while running twice it
>>98557747>every single backpack is still completely identical>every single helmet is still mark 10Sorry GW, one studded shoulder pad and a couple variations on the breastplate and greaves is not enough. You went like 20% of the way to the customization of the old tactical kit. Quit half-assing it.
>>98557788>the game hasn't been even half decent in agesIt was NEVER half decent and anyone saying otherwise is delusional because of nostalgia
the vindicator is my favorite tank I wanted to put 2 of them in my Salamanders army.. fuck me
If you ever wonder what someone means when you hear the phrase "literacy crisis", remember this day. When an article that was only a few paragraphs long explicitly said only several things, in very clear terms, and you still had a dozen posts immediately misunderstanding what as said. The units that are being sent to legends was explicitly listed, the units being used as proxies for other units were explicitly listed, and the changes to CSM were explicitly listed. I am astounded by some of the questions you people asked, or worse the various ways you immediately mistranslated a very short article that used clear language.
>>98557722>I'm pirating everything from this point onI hope you actually stick to your words.
>>98557788I just started playing this month :)
i can't wait for the tau codex to legends literally everything in the army as it stands or some shit lmao
oh okay
>>98557747That's the old kit with a single shoulderpad from something else.
>>98557667GW squatting something right before a game comes out that brings puts it in the spotlight is something of a tradition at this point. Total Warhammer being the best example.
>>98557763>keeps reposting the same stolen tacticalsfuck off until you own any models whatsoever
>>98557747These look like the armageddon ones, for the most part
>>98557776Kill yourself, I didn't ask for this, I am not paying money for my classic units to get replaced with shittier temu versions.
>>98557766>+1 to hit on enemies on objectives>they're already hitting on 3+ before this>on the battleline unit
Wow I lost my Supressors, Predators and Centurions..
>>98557747What's there to care about? It's still stupid intercessors that have changed nothing. Meanwhile they've just squatted the most iconic unit in the entire game and the core units marines have had since Rogue Trader.
does this mean that tau will be bs 3+ and palgue marines t8?
>>98557795>ceramite fistsMarines in charge of not having enough combat knives to go around.
>>98557817space marines are elite ;)
Its time for the full invader ATV list
>>98557722They make a point of confirming in the video that these buffs are going to come with point increases that will force Marine armies to shrink, you're not getting all that extra power and durability for freeI think they know full well the increase in prices for kits aren't acceptable on their own and are deciding to make efforts to lower the average army size to offset it
>>98557800Half the people here are brown
>>98557774Most of those technically "own" marines because they bought a launch box or starter set, they don't have a full army and they don't play them as their primary army. Marines don't even come fucking close to having 65% representation in terms of actual games played.
>>98557522Marine apologist will defend this.
>>98557808Should’ve bought more Hands of the Archin kits anon.
>>98557795Oh wow they didn't squat the helix gauntlet they don't sell any more. Fists for melee is weird though, the box comes with plenty of knives. No comms guy even though that's part of the sprue as well. No deep strike denial bubble, what even is the point of these guys?Combat doctrines confirmed for army rule, as if anyone doubted.
Surely HH will become "The scouring" and all the classic marine units will be playable there, right?AoS -> The Old World40k -> Age of DarknessAnd 40k will be like some "Age of Hope"
>>98557800All of that is irrelevant because those of us who can actually read can see that these are still catastrophically retarded changes and that the people in charge at GW should kill themselves. Now. Right now.
>>98557747Wow another box of intercessors thanks guys.
>>98557800>t.nomodels
>>98557724>Lorica SegmentataThere's a reason I said full plate, not plate. Lorica Segmentata is not remotely full plate armor and doesn't look anything like Space Marine armor.
>>98557522>send all the Rhino variants to legends>send all tactical marines to legends>but keep the base Rhinobuy why?
>>98557843The bullet is a penis.
>>98557742But this is GW and what you said makes too much sense
Vanguard vets with shields look pretty cool ngl
>>98557526>>98557522We were so close.
>>98557817Can't have pesky t3 infantry getting the benefits of cover now can we?
Plague Marines at T8 by 2029, I'm feeling it.
>>98557522>>98557526>>98557536This is ass.
>>98557812I keep reposting a pic as an example of really cool models that I like and want official ones done in that style you fucking retard.>own any models whatsoeverGo back decalmutant
>>98557825elite enough that my "just regular" armies will never see them, correct
kek
Here's the irrevocable truth.40k 8th edition was the litmus test, if you're still here after it buying GW's shit or playing their games (be it Horus Heresy, 40k, Necromunda, anything)There are 3 categories you can fall into>you actually like what they have done and don't mind it, liked 10th edition, which is by far the worst edition of 40k ever. Yes, it is, don't try to deny it.or>you still actually like what they have done and are just in purely denial of it. or>you're genuinely too far gone due to your sunkcost fallacy mentality.Whichever it is, you deserve everything GW is going to do. Yes, even all of the hypothetical shit they'll do in the future.The game was dumpstered two editions ago and hasn't gotten any better since, you've been rolling in shit for years and are now complaining that you're getting maggots in your mouth.You get what you deserve.
>>98557808Your fault for not playing the main character
>>98557849Cause they're gonna allow primaris to use rhinos in the codex
>>98557862That wasn’t me man
>>98557862>y-you're the mutant!!!nice try touristPost any models you own with a timestamp instead of hiding behind stolen models
I'm throoding hang on
>>98557833>Most of those technically "own" marines because they bought a launch box or starter setThis is just fucking cope again.If the people didn't like marines at all they'd just get rid of them or give them away at their LGS.
>>98557592As if this wasn't the inevitable result that everyone saw coming back when Primaris were first announced back in 2017.
>>98557866Then why are you here?
>>98557870stop ban evading you double nigger
>>98557873>Post any modelsI notice you didn't post any while making the demand, tourist. We don't do that based on demand here anymore.>hiding behind stolen modelsNo one posting that pic ever claimed they were theirs you fucking retarded fag.
>>985577983rd/4th is pretty good.
>>98557877Them faithfuly updating terminators and scouts, sternguard and vanguard vets being normal updates and them bringing back speeders after an edition of being squatted gave me the smallest glimmer of hope.
>>98557839>what even is the point of these guys?precision bolt carbines, to answer my own question.
>>98557874Delete OPR from the OP>>98557866Honestly at this point I think you're right
>>98557884>weyou're not one of us lmao
>>98557893>>98557893>>98557893Memorial service starting now bros
>>98557849The rhino will get a remakeSo will the land raiderIn essence, marines are the same. We still have gladiators, which are predators.Flyers are generally going away, especially the HH ones.What we're missing is the vindicator and whirlwind, the later of which is rumored to get a primaris version.In short: 40k and HH marines are being split for good.
>>98557763Literally just buy HH mk4 models
>>98557897I accept your concession
>boxnought and rhino survive after being unplayably bad all edition and being ignored in every update>vindicators, whirlwinds and predators get squatted after being decent all edition, vindicators being pretty popular and getting multiple balance passesWhat.
>>98557667Vidja resurrected the old world, maybe it'll bring back hammy.
>>98557848Now read the rest of the listYou can't tell me that the Dendra Panoply isn't "full plate" without moving your goalpost as to what "full plate" is.Archaic and rudimentary, yes, but it is "full plate" in the sense of "plates of metal covering the entire body."
>>98557795>punching with their bare hands hits harder than their own toughnesshow the fuck does that make sense? they're literally hitting people with their armor.
>>98557912four words to announce you're just a shitposter
>>98557938keep coping lmao
>>98557722Nice digits. Time to play my knight army guiltfree.
>>98557913They sold enough of their backstock so they’re safe to squat.
>>98557927I mean, technically, sure. But despite how clunky Space Marine armor is, I'm pretty sure they didn't base it on Dendra Panoply. They made knights in space.
>>98557876I don't own space marines, I own chaos space marines but I like playing with more than one army in an edition.
Looking at the dakkarig and squig riders from the exodite box, I got all these ork models now to supplement my orks. But 28 boyz. Why didn't that GW manager faggot give me the fucking boy. He was too lazy to set them up, it's the redshirt who does all the slave work in that store. Fucking cunt.
>>98555989GW tends to taste better desu
>>98556047>Error: Max limit of 150 image replies has been reached.102 bucks on the US storeThe entire starter set half containing these guys+wartrakk+boyz+grots+warboss+weirdboy are the same price as this singular setGW is out of their minds.
>>98556118See >>98556047You could sell every kit in there for 30 euro for a total of 180 and still not reach GW levels of jew
>Corvus Blackstar gunship still alive and kickingRare Deathwatch W.
>>98557808Just fucking give every eldar unit in the game fights first if you're not bringing back initiative.
>>98556407Yeah they’re pretty fun, but you need to build up an undercoat first for contrast. You can airbrush a zenithal highlight on top of primer, or dry brush, or just sketch value on with a brush. Either way, you want to pick two (or more,) colors for your contrast undercoat that fit with your palette of contrast paints you’re going to use.
>>98557865They've genuinely squatted his whole army lmao.
Do I assemble or paint minis this evening
>>98556773Incorporate an Immolator for the sisters somehow and you can use it at deployment to split them in half so you have two sticky objective action monkeysPut all the special weapons in the immolator and leave the simulacrum and bolters at your home objective.
>>98558372>razorback>predator>vindicator>3 of the main 4 firstborn armored vehiclesJesus Christ.
So GW have just completely given up on hardcover books for codexes and rules huh?
>>98557530It’s bad for anyone who wants to play Purge the Foe, Priority Assets, or Disruption against any faction with a new codex.If your faction doesn’t have an 11th codex, you’re pretty much locked to playing Take and Hold or Recon if you want to win.
>>98558562No you can still get them.The softbacks are just a cheaper option.
>>98558562I truly believe they're going to make the rules digital-only and turn the Codexes into lore/art books. They're already halfway there by not printing all the fucking rules in the books to begin with; if the bombs drop and the internet dies forever, your Vault will have to bullshit the points, the force dispositions and the list-building rules.
>>98557077Female led diverse giants of colour?Who wouldn't want this?They even gave her cute uwu pigeon toeing
>>98557239I wonder why the chinese head is so dark
