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>new game mechanics neuter roleplaying
>everything is now about OOC negotiations between the player and storyteller over meta-currency expenditure
>functionally this means now the game is all about manipulating and defrauding the system for advantages for yourself over others
>nothing any longer is about meaningful roleplaying, mechanical savvyness or smart decisions made by you in the position of your character

Man... I wonder what sort of people this kind of game would appeal to? Gee; it's... it's right there on the tip of my tongue... whoever could be behind this?
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>>98561569
The thing is that they are copying from other less successful games. I know how the writers feel, they want to feel well read and versed, but they should be reading Vampire the Masquerade 2nd edition quick start, Actual Plays, and so on. Not fuckign failed PbtA and other indie mechanics because it sold more then other failed indie games.
>This is why circle jerks are bad
It's not even that lumpley and PbtA games are terrible bad, but they are not vampire. The writers like these games because they have a bunch of behind the scenes psuedo intellectual horseshit trying to justify their lack of sales. These writers if given VtM WOULD WRITE VtM, These wanna be writers, are more concerned about how they are perceived (I want to be the cool academic writer, with genuine indie knowledge). These people need to read Sex and Sorcery and instead they are jerking off over blades in the dark because it wasn't a complete failure, just a girl failure type thing in a dying industry where the 4th biggest selling game can be vanity press nonsense (See Daggerheart or whatever colville crapped out).
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>>98561569
>I wonder what sort of people this kind of game would appeal to
Nobody, except maybe DnD fags but they're not going to stop playing DnD. It doesn't appeal to 5thheads, it doesn't appeal to classicchuds, it's just corpo slop. And 5th was already corporate slop, but this is slop^5
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What mechanic are you referring to specifically? I have never played a VtM game (I despise modern urboid settings in general, especially for vampires)
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>go to WW blog
>post-Alpha notes
>Drama and Quickening frustrated GMs and made players afraid to try big swings
>They're retooling these a lot or removing them entirely for the next playtest in a month

Oh look, another faggot that just wants to complain about the blue-haired californians that live in his brain.
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>>98562282
Admiting that you are wrong is a great leadership trait to have, but if you keep making obvious mistakes all the time it means that you are not fit to lead.
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>>98562282
Sure, just like they were totally fixing V5 slop lol
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Well I Un-Ironically think VtM 6E Humainty system is a good replacement to Harano and Haoglusk bars. Granted literal log of Dog shit is objectively better than the Harano and Haoglusk bars so...
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>>98561569
>the game is all about manipulating and defrauding the system for advantages for yourself over others
>Man... I wonder what sort of people this kind of game would appeal to?
Trump?



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