>>98579109
depends on what setting. which is?

>>98579109
The difference is how each works' creator portrayed them.
You fucking retard.

>Orcs are Orcneas, hell-corpse. Perverted zombies or mutants or both, a mockery of creation.
>Goblins are a type of fairy.
>Trolls and Ogres are the same thing, they're giants that act like fairies and/or fairies that act like giants (and the distinction is unimportant).
>Hobgoblins and bugbears are man sized fairies.
>Uruk is the orc word for orc within Tolkien's Legendarium.

>>98579935
>Hobgoblins and bugbears are man sized fairies.
I thought that was elves?

>>98579151
>>98579895
Whew, you two certainly are worthless livestock

>>98580969
aaah, no answer because no games...

>>98579109
How I classify is more or less like this:
Ogres and Trolls, they are in what my setting are called Gogs or Magogs, basically beastly, big and strong, not so smart, magogs (like trolls or onis) are also powerful in magic, but not so smart, they are rare and a threat individually to small homesteads/villages.
Orcs are what I classify as Trogs(Than also classify other predatory humanoids, like neanderthals based in the predator theory, wich I love), aka, beastly humanoids, less intelligent than humans but more than chimps, than are strong and form tribes, they are the bread and butter of the frontier parts enemies, they are raiders and such, dangerous in the night, less so in the sun and open fields vs cavalry (they can't use javelins or bows, crossbows and some other yeah), incidentally Dwarfs are classified as Trogs, tough the more inteliggent ones.
Goblins, they are a kind of common fey, like the Dogs of the Fey world, very varied, dumber than humans but smarter than Trogs, I use them when I need a more trickster/tricky kinds of numerous foe,the bigger ones are the Hobgoblins, and there are some bigger, more magical races than I guess are like the Bugbear, but I mainly take WoW Trolls for inspo for them cruel, vindicative, weird voodo like magic.
Uruks I don't have an equivalent, tough some titan lords (like the fey) use enhanced orcs or hob for war.

>>98579109
>orc
Big, strong, brutish
>goblin
Small, weak, cunning
>troll
Huge, stupid, regeneration
>ogre
Huge, stupid, brutish
>hobgoblin
Medium sized, disciplined, cunning
>bug bear
Big, strong, cunning
>uruk
Big, strong, disciplined

>>98579109
Do we really need three goblins? I can sort of buy a bigger goblin race acting as the generals and wranglers of small green goblins but we don't need both Hobgoblins and Bugbears.

>>98581532
Hobgoblins are the professional military, goblins the chaff and peons, bugbears the shock troops and ambushers. You can make a well balanced army out of that.

>>98580490
Them too.
Fae is a catchall term like monster.

>>98579109
Orc: big bad guys
Goblin: small bad guy
Troll: guy on 4chan
Ogre: like orc, but i have dyslexia
Hobgoblin: goblin that jumps a lot
Bugbear: evil monster that eats kids that stay up too late.
Uruk: an ancient mesopotamian city

>>98579109
In my setting it goes a little like this:

>Orcs, degenerate nomadic raiders/pirates and cannibals slightly taller that humans when they stand up straight but they almost never do. Strong and cunning, not very good at anything else other than raiding except making really functional and durable but brutalistic weapons.
>Goblin, an intelligent animal that hunts in packs. Human mistakenly think them as sentient because goblins can use words and scavenge weapons and tools but they are at the level of intelligence of a really smart dog. Orcs tend to keep them as pets.
>Trolls are just degenerate giants. Their magic has gone haywire and can grow at ridiculous sizes if left alone and with enough food. They are actually more intelligent than they look and act.
>Ogres are what happens when the giants tried to save their dying race by mating with humans. They are a combination of the worst aspects of both races and they wield a massive innate magical ability although they may never actually use it. Stupider than they look and act. Slaves to their gluttony and lust and that would make them really dangerous if they were not also slaves to their laziness.
>hobgoblins are the result of orcs and goblins mating. Smaller and weaker than humans and barely intelligent. Most of them are raised as pets or slaves. Orcs create reconnaissance groups from them or suicide squads. Crueler and far more sadistic than orcs or goblins.
>Bugbear, a word to describe the various boogeymen and uncategorized monsters and threats of the countryside
>Uruk a left over dying race of warrior smiths that used slave labour extensively. The progenitor of orcs. Taller and stronger than a human but not as strong as an orc. They live in fortified enclaves where they trade their craftsmanship and skill with the blade with slaves.

>>98579109
>orc/goblin/troll/ogre/hobgoblin/bugbear/uruk
>WTF is the difference
If you are confused about these, then you are straight up retarded.

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>>98581497
>>98581532
>>98581636
I don't know, I don't really like it myself. I feel like Orcs and Hobgoblins largely fill the same roll, and Bugbears can be replaced by either orcs/hobs or ogres. Ogres also have some crossover with trolls I think, unless you're taking a more eastern approach with Ogres as Oni. And the list doesn't mention hill giants either, who also feel like bigger ogres. Ultimately I think that the venn diagram of the different races has a lot of crossover that isn't necessarily bad but also isn't very distinct or interesting. As is typical for DnD, the system would probably be better served by narrowing things down and actually flushing them out rather than just being a kitchen sink; at least as far as the monster manual goes. Kinda weird to have a monster manual that is non-setting specific.
>tldr; HYTNPDND?

>>98586512
the out of universe reason is that when they were making the first monster manual, they were just plucking words out of mythology and literature to use and they werent exactly picky about what they included and they certainly werent thinking about whether or not any of them would be rendered redundant after 20 years of adding new entries

since hobgoblin was just an extra syllable away from goblin, it made sense to make them related

orcs and goblins were born from a misreading of LOTR, where goblin was another word for orc but most casual readers dont pick up on this and gygax admitted he though LOTR was mid and likely didnt read too much into it
so orcs are just a renamed uruk, a bigger and stronger green/grey skin, while goblins are the smaller more numerous one
as a departure from tolkien, the first orcs in DnD were described as being a cross between a feral hog and a wolf

>>98579109
Uruks only exist in the works of Tolkien which forces a context upon the rest. Orcs then are the more usual members of their race while goblins are the smaller and weaker variety. Hobgoblins and bugbears do not exist, while trolls are another species entirely.

>>98580969
No, the faggot who keeps making these threads is worthless.

She bug on my bear until I goblinoid.

>>98579109
In Tolkien's mythos Goblin was just another word for Orc, the Hobbit just uses the term because children couldn't imagine how an orc looks like. They are the same species, the words just have different historical backgrounds in Middle Earth. Uruk is also another term for Orc, though in the story it was colloquially used for strong Orcs or the Orcs that resulted from forced breeding with. Humans. Similar thing with hobgoblin, in the Hobbit it was a term for the stronger Orcs.
Trolls are a completelly different Species in LOTR. They are much larger and stronger than orcs. Orc types could vary too, some Orcs were indeed ranging from something as small as what we imagine a non-tolkien related Goblin to be (hence why Frodo and Sam could disguise themselves as orcs) to small human sized.

As for generic fantasy. No setting uses Uruk outside the Tolkien mythos as the term is property of the Tolkien Estate. Orc usually refers to the human sized Orcs or the more troll like orcs (likw World of Warcraft), but I can't think of a setting where both archetype exist. Settings where orcs are the inhumanely large, brutish creatures also usually do not feature trolls as the archetype is already filled by the Orc (WoW has, but the trolls are something completelly different there). In Japanese Stories Orcs are also oftentimes depicted as pigmen (like the ones in minecraft).
Goblins are usually the small green creatures. Hobgoblin doesn't really get used outside of Japanese Light Novels where it refers to large Goblins that basically fullfill the Troll/large Orc function.
Ogres are basically trolls, only difference is that they are just rooted in Western European, especially French mythology while Trolls come from Norse mythology. Trolls also tend to be more varied as it can refer to the brutes like in LOTR or something smaller (Scandinavian mythologies are inconsistent on that and it varies between country), but ogre always refers to something very large.

>>98586687
Wrong and gay

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>>98579109

>Goblin
A large spectrum of monsters, not referring to any one kind The most common type are
- Hobgoblins: Small, often ugly, house-elf type goblins
- Gremlin: Small green or black-skinned subhumans who are obsessed with technology
- Orc: Fell subhumans in the same size scale as humans.
- Troll: Large race of goblins, over 8 feet tall on average.

>Bugbear
Shouldn't be a monster type, if used it should be a slur for orcs or trolls.

>Uruk
Shouldn't exist outside of Tolkien, but if I had to use it, it would be a euphimism for half-orcs.

Ogre
>Not a breed of goblinoid, they're the smaller breed of feral giants.

>Orc:
A race of barbaric warriors, larger and stronger than men. Not exactly stupid, but simple. Martial prowess is highly valued, they are also excellent hunters due to their carnivorous diet. They live in tribes with a leadership hierarchy based on shamanism and brute strength. They live in mountainous regions and are great metal and leather workers.

>Goblin:
Dog sized, barely sentient and cowardly. They live in both orc and hobgoblin settlements and are essentially to them what a gibbon is to us, except weaker and a the most intelligent are roughly on par with a toddler.

>Troll:
Large bipedal creatures that can be tamed. They are used as work creatures and beasts of war when tamed. Their regerarive powers make them prized shock troops in hobgoblin armies and as bessts of burden in orcish settlements.

>Ogre:
Small giants that devolved to be only slightly larger than men. They are a genetic dead end, ruled by their base emotions and riddled with cancers and unending hunger. While still immensely strong and cunning, they are short lived and driven mad by pain and deformity.

>Hobgoblin:
Unlike orcs and goblins these "greenskins" are orange. They are similar to orcs but live in more disciplined societies. They are not quite as physically large or strong, but still bigger and stronger than men. They have a more rigid caste system, with every member having their place and rulership is hereditary. They are called Orange Orcs by many human scholars who simply classify them the way humans of different races are.

Cont.

>>98591176

>Bugbear:
Nomadic goblins of larger size. They have developed basic tools and society, they often live near orcs and hobgoblins in times of famine, and are frequently used as slave labour by both when this happens. They are violent and stupid by nature.

>Uruk:
The pinnacle of orckind. They are stronger, smarter and larger than orcs and hobgoblins. They live in total military societies, and are on par with humans for intelligence. When they raid settlements of the lesser races they leave no survivors and are considered little more than a myth by many. They have a deep red skin tone and allegedly have a seaborne civilisation, but a true homeland is theorised to be over the seas.