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Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98586628OP is way bloated
>>98586638>Are we the baddies?
>>98586628>What’s your deepest, darkest fantasy?Playing two 40k games in under 4 hours.
You DID preorder the new Custodes box, right anon?
As I was saying in the other thread. GW should release a classic 40k based on a pre 8th core ruleset. With the complexity baked into the core gameplay and rules, and simpler codex’s like it was in the old days. Bring back armor values, bring back damage charts, bring back ws and bs. Deflate the insanely bloated strength and toughness values. Make 40k classic feel like a wargame again.
>>98586638it happens because this general (on its surface) is half hobby and half wargame, so if you were take either one out it wouldn’t be so big, but because both have to be included you get that wall of text. not like this is a problem anyway, just scroll down lol.
>>98586628TqAttractive adult women.I play guard btw.
>>98586650I got no use for pod racing custodes
>>98586651HH is their 7e-based ruleset.
>>98586651There's already the HH ruleset based in the 3-7th editions.It only needs rules for 40k factions.
>>98586650Clown shoe bikes
>>98586638>OP is way bloatedWeird answer for TQ>>98586628>TQPersonal mine would be to win a local tourney, and in larrikan nature of a winning celebration I would woo my ex again.
>>98586652We don't need half of the stuff in there. Like why not have a pastebin for downloads/torrents?
>>98586657>>98586658HH has been heavily 40kified in 3.0. Also if you don’t care about different colored marines its a very boring setting
What's the deal with the 5e LARPers? People being upset and switching to old editions is nothing new but majority of them was moving back to 3.5e (3e codexes and 4e rules). Nowadays I see a lot of comments from people that claim they are dropping the current 40k in favour of 5e. I know the consensus is that 5e is simply shit compared with 3e or even 4e since 3e had the best codexes and 4e rules are simply refined 3e rules so they come with best of both worlds. Is the 5e "hype" some kind of Discord psyop?
>>98586660>and in larrikan nature of a winning celebration I would woo my ex againAre you me>keep seeing my removed ex's posts on FB because I haven't removed her family yet>Its been 7 years
>>98586650I slept in, so I did not
>>98586665>People being upset and switching to old editions is nothing new but majority of them was moving back to 3.5e (3e codexes and 4e rules).
Post your most recent models
>>98586650>custodes grim>grav bikesdouble grim>grav tanktriple grim>goomba from the super mario bros movie (1993) lookin dreadnoughtquadruple grim I don’t think I’ve ever been more disinterested in a battleforce box in my life.
>>98586652Could probably trim and combine some stuff. Like why do the gw painting guides need a separate header instead of just being under "paint stuff', etc.
>>98586664>HH has been heavily 40kified in 3.0> if you don’t care about different colored marines its a very boring settingwtf are you talking about, we're talking about ruleset s and adding 40k factions
>>98586666oh my digits wasted on my shitty post
>>98586666>Are you meI hope not because you'll actually succeed.But she'll come to you, so focus on what's really important, plastic army men.
>>98586665Repost:Only 2nd ed has a decent amount of (aging) players.3-5th ed games are a meme. They talk about it but very few people actually play them among friends in private groupsPart of the reason is that nobody agrees in what middle hammer rules to use. Everybody has their own biases.Our very own /tg/ 4th ed project failed.
>>98586628TqTo have a painted warhammer 40k army I will be happy with and be a good miniature painting then that talent somehow spilling into 3d sculpting and digital drawing.But also to be happy in life.>>98586677It happened to me once too. We can suffer together.
Rate my warboss, Queen Cuddlepuff Happysquig the Good Intentioned
Just bought death guard combat patrol, looking for inspo for the paint/theme
>>98586660I'm esl and have no idea what larrikin means, when I look it up google shows me homoerotic photography. I feel like I've been tricked.>>98586666>spoilerBro...
>>98586682I'm bias in favour of 7th. I know some people hated it but I had a lot of fun with it. I was in a private club during that edition so we did a lot of house rules that we liked so it was way better than what I'm doing now (pickup games with randos because I moved).
>>98586685>IT'S MA'AMZ
>>98586693I'd advise when searching larrikan for meaning adding moots favourite posters, it will be illuminating on several levels.
>>98586682That failed project isn’t gonna be forgotten will it?I had the idea of a fan continued 4th edition in my head for a while and when femstodes got first announced I thought it was a “now or never” moment even though I had no idea where to start except planting the seed of the idea through musing it then making a thread to start it.It was a calculated risk but I was never good at math. I still deeply regret the thing as it is most likely used as an argument to why the days of shit (good shit) being done are gone.I’m sorry lads.I feel like the universe is telling me to make up for the blunder but I have no idea what to do.Maybe just keep 4th intact and add post 4th released model stats? But then primaris stuff would cause shitflinging for obvious reasons.I think the guard too as forgeworld’s guard stuff was supposedly overpowered as well.
When you start a new model, how often do you guys do a test model to see how the painting scheme will work? Or is this question more for the /wip/ general?>>98586681Do you have the picture but its a night lords edit?
>>98586660oh, I get it. he wants the OP to be even MORE bloated. don’t worry >>98586638 I’ll happily fulfill your chaser desires :D
>>98586702Yes I've figured it out in the meantime. Some australian term for a kind of rowdy debonair guy.very confusing for a bit
>>98586669Old/midhammer communities, multiple surveys in FB groups and thematic subplebbits (so places that are alive unlike 4channel). Just go and check.
>>98586713I used to do test models but now I just do everything in batches. It makes the quality of the paint job more uniform, especially if I'm mixing colours.
First time mini painter Ork newfag with crap camera reporting progress:The rusty battle worn 18 Ork Boys and Nobs are almost done. Just need to fix small mistakes, touch up some existing details.Any tips for doing the armaggedon bases, making them look good? So far just applied the texture and base painted the rocks.
>>98586715I am be making the next thread and removing 60% of the bloat, don't you worry.
>>98586691Build diy wet palette. And use a ceramic tile (I got one for less than 50 Canadian cents) metallics and washes. Keep paints thin. Do not get paint in the ferrule.Do not be afraid to mess up your first mini.Prime the miniature so the paint won’t flake off.A lot of this is projecting my first time mistakes.
>>98586682>Only 2nd ed has a decent amount of (aging) players
>>98586716>rowdy debonair guyThat doesn't sound very orderly.Any way, what's good army to play that aren't starter set ones?
>>98586682Yeah no, lots of people play 4th. 2nd is a completely different and rarer beast
>>98586713I got a few generic test models to try mixing colours on and then I unironically use AI to get a feeling of the colour schemes
>>98586711>>98586682Weren't 4e and 3e rules already written down as text files?
>>98586726The 2nd ed. Battle Bible fan rules compilation has been a thing since the late 2000s, anon.Just check FB groups and youtube channels, and compare them to the ones about middlehammer.2e has more focused and dedicated followers.Which is ironic for me, because I like the old school minis but I never liked the lol random rules when it was new.
Tyranids..kinda cute.
Real questions>Your army>Ex type.
>>98586685Is this some kind of a joke?
>>98586650i only want telemon so i will wait for telemon single release and get it at -20% msrp
>>98586722Yes, I’ve watched lots of tutorials already, very keen.I’m going to try and replicate the design on the box just for now. But want to try for something unique.
>>98586720>first timeI’m happy you did your homework and preparation work on your first models.I think your Armageddon basing is fine as Armageddon’s surface is a sandy wasteland so it works. If I am properly remembering.Your first models look good.Have you considered using the torn sponge piece weathering technique to create paint chipping?Heavily thinned down brown paint can work as rust too. Skrag brown or equivalents can work. I think they have to be like brown milk watery then a little more water.>the rust techniquehttps://youtu.be/dvlvzXaEmso?t=570
>>98586721good on you. not sure if I need to say, but remember to make pastebins to condense everything like >>98586663 said.because if you’re outright going to just remove shit, then its going to be back to normal in no time.
>>98586742>ex typewat
>>98586730>lots of people play 4ththey say they want to do it online, but IRL? doubt X>>98586734I think the "Fourth General" did several PDFs, but dunno about where they're hosted or if they dissapeared
>>98586737>lol random rulesIt wasn't lol random. It was meant to simulate a variety of outcomes possible on a battlefield. Everything now is too abstracted and genericized. You can't blow off a weapon off a vehicle anymore, let alone hit the driver through the view port and cause it to go out of control as a result.That kind of stuff made it feel more like a simulationist wargame than the board game feel of modern 40k
>>98586737>hating the beautiful random tableswhat were you some boomer e-sports metafag even back then?
>>98586752Oh my bad.*Type of girl your ex was
>>98586665As someone with a 3rd edition Ork codex sitting right next to me there is no way you can say that 3rd has the best codices. There are literally no reliable range anti-tank in the entire book. Rolling up against something like Guard was practically an auto-lose. KFFs, tank buster bombs and powerklaws just do cut it especially when most units could not take dedicated transports.
>>98586746Best advice I can give is to get a notebook from a dollar store to write down your paint schemes and what paints were used in case you forget. Maybe the dollar store will have stuff that might be useful for mini painting too.There’s been mention of glass nano files used on hard plastic to remove mould lines. I’m not sure if the dollar store glass nail files will work from the makeup section.I’ve read that those files don’t work nice with resin and get damaged from metal.
>>98586743During the Medusa V campaign it was the name I used to log battles because I wanted to see if I could get it mentioned in the weekly reports (and it did).
>>98586742Night LordsNever had a gf
>>98586756>>98586758Randomness has a place in a ruleset, but 2e was way too swingy, IMO>>98586765IIRC, they say to use with a mix of 3rd and 4th ed codexes until a certain point when GW changed for the worse the design. But I don't recall the exact breaking point
>>98586758CAACfags need to learn it's okay to try to win without some random roll ruining your entire strategy.
>>98586742world eatersdark hair, dark eyes, pale skin, kinda chubby, slightly taller than methe last one was like that too
>>98586765>There are literally no reliable range anti-tank in the entire bookYeah except for Gretchin Artillery. Cannons were BS4+ Str 8 and Zzap guns auto penned any vehicle on an 11-12 roll and they were very cheap.
>>98586776Why even play wargames at that point that try to simulate battles? Go play chess or checkers if you don't enjoy randomness. You're the reason why everything has a reroll nowadays.
So where are we right now?
>>98586742>marines>demanding underachieverI'm not making a Guilliman x Yvraine refence, btw
>>98586778They were still BS 2 in 3rd and that isn't reliable for 3 shots. Additionally zzap guns with range 24" needed to be deployed somewhere critical to ever be useful because no one rolling up with 3 Russes are going to drive anywhere near it.
>>98586782I mean the models are higher quality than ever
>>98586782I'd say that we are still on the descent into slop and it will be done when they release pre-painted figures
>>98586787I am like 99% sure they were BS 3 even back in the 3e codex
>>98586781Chess is a 99% solved game. Constant influx of new rules is needed to maintain my attention. Every edition since 5th my gaming group has played early in the edition, then for a while when our specific codices were updated and then took a break towards the end of the edition because our matches became completely formulaic. Then repeat the cycle next edition update.
>>98586787>>98586798No you're right they were bs2 but also 30 points so dirt cheap.
>>98586782You tell us
>>98586798
>>98586742Imperial guardNever had a gf.
>>98586784>marinesUltramarines? Or just wanner be best marines, paintwise at least.
>>98586782Almost at squeeze.Admittedly warhammer 40k is basically at a point where only the ip holder can kill it.I think Disney’s fumbling of the Star Wars ip contributed to a big move to 40k.No “x killer” ever killed the big boy of the medium as far as I know. No halo killer worked. No wow killer. There will be no warhammer 40k killer.
>>98586713every model is a test model
>>98586722>And use a ceramic tile (I got one for less than 50 Canadian cents) metallics and washes.People are still doing this? Why? Washes and metallics are fine on a wet palette.
>>98586685Why blue?
>>98586806That's not a good argument for quality though. It's the classic Michelin Star restaurant vs McDonald's. McDonald's is the most popular and highest revenue restaurant on the planet, but no one would claim it's " the best " or even a particularly good place to buy food. The same can be applied to this argument for wargames.
>>98586839For me it is autistic tradition for metal acrylics.For washes like contrasts and inks it is so the wet palette moisture doesn’t get excessive as I usually water my washes down.I use a aluminum dimple tray for that though. The fidget toy things might be better.I need to clean my silver dimple tray palette.
>>98586820I hate to sound like a hipster but it's happened so many times that something that I like gets turned to shit once it gets popular. The only reason I even still play videogames is thanks to steam the indie scene is going so strong.
>>98586747Thank you. I looked up the sponge method, looks handy I'll deff experiment with it in the future.For the rust I followed Ninjon's method of base coating the mini with a wash that's a mix or red, brown and a bit of black, then when painting metal bits highlight the raised areas and then swipe bit by bit to create a mix of rust and metal/paint on others or leave some zones more rusty painting around them. Also followed his tip for the skin create a darker green mix for a base coat then paint over with Orruk flesh, since Orruk flesh is annoying to apply vanilla to dark surface. And the tip for doing a red was in between the following 2 vannila Orruk paint coats to make the skin look lively and help eith shading.I wish they included a yellow and blue instead of dawnstone so it would be easier to color mix what I want. Wanted to do the purple/pink energy for weirdboy and pale pink Ork lips and some yellow for certain bits and squig eyes. Wasn't happy with the White + Mephiston red on lips so kept em darker.
>>98586628Hey everyone it's once again time for the collage anchor posts.This month's theme was "Defeated foes/trophies" and was left to your own interpretation.I'll try to post an anchor every thread but if you can't spot me write"here is my August collage submission" and it'll be way easier to find you in the archive.Here is the link to next month's votehttps://strawpoll.com/PbZqbJNYbyN
>>98586742SMFat chudette
>>98586856>red wasRed wash*
>>98586742OrksMentally ill
>>98586845Just to stand out more.
>>98586665I'd assume because it has the most content out of all the midhammer editions(I might be talking out of my ass here). I know technically you can mix and match content from earlier editions, but I guess people treat it as the final version from that period.I do want to play 3E and 4E with my friend eventually though.
Why did firstborn flop?
>>98586875Bad proportions
>>98586875The Meta game changed. Vehicles can no longer get taken out with a single lucky shot so a squad with just 1 melta gun or just 1 lascannon can't accomplish anything.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
You know with the new Ork prices it won't be long before a 2000 point army costs more in dollars than in points. The Trukk is already one of those things. Soon a 2000 point army will cost 3000 dollars. And at that point I don't want GW fanboys to say "well a gaming PC costs 1500 dollars or you need to pay for online etc" or complain about plenty of other hobbies.I can go to my local shooting range for 10 years and rent their guns for a price of a 2k point ork army.
>>98586884dedicated transports are an outlier, always have been but especially now
It would be really funny if they drop the points for everything else instead of raising the points for space marines
>>98586897guard infantry still remain more expensive than the new marines because that one dev was raped by recon guard at a tourney
>>98586722The ceramic tile thing would actually be useful for when I use oils... I mucked up one of my plastic paletes and having been using wet palete sheets for the oils, which is actually not great, the oils are getting sucked out of the paint into the sheet after a couple of hours, drying out the paint.
>>98586884when i was in the US earlier this year a range in NH charged me $180 to rent two guns and a couple boxes of ammo, did i get fleeced?i understand now why americans love their gunswarhammer 40000
>>98586898Delete that Jewish propaganda slop
>>98586884Get a Stompa broIt's buffed and usable
GW is just so shitty a company I am seriously considering selling my armies. I have zero interest in paying the new models tax for this edition's meta. I no longer have a casual group of friends to play with, that feel apart when I moved for work so it's pickup games only for me.
>>98586920You will regret selling your armies
>>98586875They didn't flop, they were dragged out behind the shed kicking and screaming and shot in the head by GW
>>98586920You will regret
>>98586920No dude, just play either an older edition or some miniature agnostic system like OPR that simulates 40K
>>98586670I need to drill the barrels of the stubbers and learn how to paint faces. I also got lazy with focus stacking, needed to take a 3rd photo that focuses on the centre.
You know with Ork Boyz being 65 dollars for a regular battleline unit. When will the day come that a regular 10 man battleline unit box will cost 100 dollars?
How are you guys getting the missing weapons from the armageddon boyz? Especially the burnas now that the burna/loota kit is kill.
>>98586920Don’t sell your army. It will be regretted.
>>98586884I've been reeeeeeally tempted to get into printing because of the pricing. I can get a Saturn 4 16k with the curing station and washer, plus some peripherals for around $1000cad, which would let be buy something like 1400 pts of the Eldar army I want. Really depends on the comp I want to go for. The problem is, half the stuff I want is out of stock in most game stores, and the one place that has it is scalping the price by 15%.
>>98586936I need to learn to paint faces too. Same with lighter weaker acrylics. What software did you use to combine your images into one? Best I know is Gimp for rudimentary edits. Wondering if there is a better one.
>>98586951I normally use photoshop but I found this one and it's just as simple.https://focusstackingonline.com/
>>98586940>When will the day come that a regular 10 man battleline unit box will cost 100 dollars?Forge World elysian drop troop squads (10 men) were like £60 back in the day.
>>98586954Thanks!>>98586955I know dkok got a lot of attention but why didn’t elysians get much of a fan following?
>>98586936nigga just increase the F value
>>98586806How isolated are you to think that revenue corresponds to quality?
>>98586959IDK anon, I was just a secondary until recently and I always thought the Mordians, Elysians, Vostroyans were cooler than Cadians. Dkok are metal, so they get a pass. I really thought they should make "Cadians X Troops" just generic guard troops so you can run your army as any regiment you want. Probably has to do with their fucking copyright autism though.
>>98586941>How are you guys getting the missing weapons from the armageddon boyz?It's Orks we are talking about. Literally just slap any flamer to the existing shoota and call it a day.
Are there any printable Mission cards?
>>98586959Elysians are pretty cool, but WWI gas mask dudes are just cooler.>>98586968>I really thought they should make "Cadians X Troops" just generic guard troops so you can run your army as any regiment you want. That used to be how it worked as recently as 9th edition, so just a little over 3 years ago. They split them into different datasheets because each troops box has different special weapons on the sprue. Yes, this is entirely a problem of their own making with several solutions, including just not fucking doing that.
>>98586855I’ve played a bit of darktide because it looked fun and I enjoyed vermintide.My steam library has a large amount of warhammer to the point where I sometimes look at it and ponder if I’ve become another consoomer meme. Most are the dawn of war and sm1 and sm2.But I heard battlesector is actually scanned models so I’d buy it just to rip the 3d models for printing unless an online library from others who have done that already hasn’t been done.I think the indie scene is stagnating too as it is mostly pixel shit or has pretentious deep vibes if that makes sense.I also think I’ve been less keen on games is because of indie devs being weird and narcissistic or both and triple a game devs being shitty at game quality and unfortunately validating the gamer gate fearmongering a decade ago.Or maybe I just suck at games and interests more now as my sister has beaten the dank souls stuff and is a good artist.She isn’t into warhammer 40k and maybe it is for the best.
>>98586959>I know dkok got a lot of attention but why didn’t elysians get much of a fan following?krieg was cheaper but the ww aesthetic obviously beat out the scifi vibe.also I'd say that krieg had more varierty of unique sculpts. like you had their infantry advancing and at rest and a bunch of special units.
>>98586970The issue is I don't have any flamers...
>>98586856Check 7:58 in this video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2aOIuGKe4wo&pp=0gcJCRMMAYcqIYzv&ra=mBasically a regular acrylic wash and speedpaint medium (Armypainter’s contrast medium) mixed makes washes behave in a way I like as they don’t tint the model too much but shade the details.I think two coats might be needed for best results. Been a while since I painted and I need to fix my basement setup.I think this will work for gw washes and their contrast medium mixed 50/50 as well.
>>98586849>>98586963Victory needs no explanation.Quantity has a quality of its own. GW sales and the amount of players increased several times since your supposed downward spiral. And the bad changes mostly only affected a fraction of SM players/collectors. I don't like many of the changes, but I also didn't like many things before, so it has been a sidegrade for me and most of the old fans.Sorry guys, your old good new bad meme doesn't hold up. Just ask DG, Necron, Nid, and now Ork players.
>>98586993success is still not directly correlated with qualitythe amount of fans may have increased but so has decreased the quality of the fans and the quality of what they are fans ofyou are a pleb
>>98586968>>98586974>>98586979Fair enough.Oddly enough I really didn’t like cadians that much then the previous ones grew on me as I came across the concept of eclectic uniformed armies.Then the new cadians came around and I started to like the previous ones more because they seem to have the most compatible bits but also because there’s a hint of old good new bad on me despite how I like the new cadians. Maybe it is preference. I couldn’t tell ya.I still like Krieg. Maybe it is the cadians said to be generic on purpose standard template many guard emulate that makes me like them more because they can in theory be a lot of other different regiments.I do like the moebian sixth from darktide because of their maulers and ogryns. It makes me sometimes ponder how effective they were as loyalists or if the chainaxe mauler is just a new unit they have due to being renegades with less supply sources now.I have acquired some remakes of the new cadians and some close enough remakes of the heavy weapons.If my pc comes back and is properly working I’ll try to resize stuff in blender to make the new cadians have the previous proportions.
>>98586940The USD as been losing value fast, and tariffs (announced or real) don't make prices any better for you.
>>98587010Define quality.Hint: It's not your pet biases from the edition you started playing
>>98587014Its not your phobos marines either thoughbeit. >inb4 well trannoids have flooded the community and made 500 ultramarine phobos armies I saw it le reddit!
>>98586993Next you will tell me that quality of Magic the Gathering improved since Wizard of the Cost stopped caring about the game balance and cards design at all and focused on pushing as many external IP-sets as possible to bloat the customer base.
What's your main army and your side army?>Gsc>Eldar
>>98587014>Define quality.Requiring effort from people with skills to achieve success amongst people with thought.Success amongst plebs is not quality.
>>98586962It's f11 already, this is the uncropped first pic by itself. I can get to f/16 but then diffraction kicks in.
>>98587024>Its not your phobos marines either thoughbeit.fuck off esl
>>98587011The older Cadians were alot easier to paint because they had less detail while still having character, that's why they peaked, the new Cadians are objectively better sculpts, their designs still based on the original idea but they are frustrating to paint because of the additional small bits.The Sentinel is a much better discussion point, the big problem with the new sentinel is, that it's n longer basing itself on the older design, the biggest issue being the round cockpit and the 1 window panel.I wonder if people had the same gripes when the last sentinel removed the first sentinel.It's a miniature company, they need to sell models for their games and there will always be refreshes and models being declared obsolete, a model will never be a timeproof investment.
>>98586993>victory needs no explanationMany times the wrong ones won when they shouldn’t have.Or didn’t face the resistance they should have.There’s a famous example of a&w releasing a bigger competitive burger to McDonald’s quarter pounder. But Americans didnt know it was mathematically bigger because of the 1/3 name labeling and the price meant more meat too.We’re seeing something like this to warhammer 40k where the masses just lap up the new stuff and don’t notice the stagnation. Even the most blatant to sell toys lore writing too. I get that warhammer lore is to sell stuff but it doesn’t have to be so over the top. I think the Macharius tank lore is a good balance between two sell toys and grimdark balance. Prices going up not just with gw but everything isn’t helping either.
>>98587050When the Russes and the Chimera chassis variants will get axed, it will be huge for alot of players.
>>98587024You haven't played this game in a long time, do you?Phobos units are common among SM players. We're not in 2017 anymore.>>98587028I don't care about MtG, and it's a nonsensical comparison anywayThis >>98586782 just doesn't apply to 40k. If anything it has become more autistic and less accesible despite its commercial success.Kids no longer play 40k like they did in the early 90s, when GW games like Space Crusade had ads in public TV with more reach that any social media today.It would be more correct to say that it has become a hobby for autistic boomers and young adults with disposable income.
>>98587048fuck your whore mother!
>>98587050You made good points.>sentinelI mean the best thing I liked was that the armored variant has armor on the legs. I found a good sentinel proxy stl and the scout variant has glass windows so no cockpit autism.Im gonna hopefully be able to use the makerscult sentinel’s leg plates for the sentinel stl I like.Oddly enough the Horus heresy did a good refresh on the leman russ tank except it was fumbled because no sponsons.
>>98587055GW already effectively replaced them with the dorn and the last wave of vehiclesall they need is one edition where those are meta and the older vehicles are trash and the sheep won't even whine about it when they get shoved into legendsquality
>>98587050>a model will never be a timeproof investment.so far I'm still playing with my 2nd edition cadians. there should be a cornerstone in every army that doesn't change (funnily enough not the case for space marines)
>>98587055>When the Russes and the Chimera chassis variants will get axedThat will be even a worse identity murder than SM losing their tracked vehicles>>98587062>good refresh on the leman russ tank except it was fumbled because no sponsonsAckshually that's the "fault" of the old school FW treadheads. Apparently they saw the sponsons as silly and unrealistic, so their Russes had them removed. The team now in charge of the HH inherited the same bias, and also it helps to make the models not interchangeable between 30k and 40k (I hate it too)
>>98587034>DEldar>AdMech
>>98586742fuck you
>>98587083>Apparently they saw the sponsons as silly and unrealisticthey knew as treadheads that sponsons had a huge amount of drawbacks, not the least being if it blew up you'd have a hole in the side of your tank.
>>98587062>>98587075>>98587083I was convinced that the Basilisk would get replaced this edition because the sprues are very bad for a plastic model, tons of warping, mold lines and spruegates but they actually printed a completely new instruction on the last army box.>HHThe Russ is good, the rest isn't fitting the design anymore, except for Krieg.Looking at the Dorn and the Hippogriff, we will get something with less rivets and more round shapes.
>>98587075This, the replacement already happened.
>>98587117>even the eavy metal basilisk doesn't show the stairs cause they always break offlmao
The 'Hand of the Archon' Warhammer 40,000 Drukhari unit is now no longer being officially sold on the GW storeThis means that the Drukhari have now lost yet another datasheet. There are only 23 remaining kits you can buy from the Webstore, with 1 being a Combat Patrol, 1 being a codex, 2 being eternally shit fliers, and four of the entries actually being 2 kits that have different build options.
>>98587122Brother, the same thing happened to the Kasrkin and the Krieg Killteams, they are getting a repackage for both Killteam and 40k.Drukhari players are ALWAYS such drama queens
>>98587122Christ, they will really demake Kabalites instead of doing literally anything else actually needed for Deldar, won't they?
>>98587122Who gives a shit, I’m still mourning the loss of firstborn.
>>98587127imagine if the rumoured 'kabalite refresh' is just a reboxing of Hand of the archon
>>98587130Thankfully primaris are pretty cool so at least we got that
>>98587130>>98587137Primaris models are also already getting axed lmao
>>98587125Don't most KT upgrade sprues get deleted after their time is up? IIRC the Tau Pathfinder KT upgrade sprue and the Hierotek sprue both got nuked with no replacement.
>>98587122>This means that the Drukhari have now lost yet another datasheet. There are only 23 remaining kits you can buy from the Webstore, with 1 being a Combat Patrol, 1 being a codex, 2 being eternally shit fliers, and four of the entries actually being 2 kits that have different build options.
>>98587117>make field artillery on carriage>make half-track with a towing pintle>half-track can't transport artillery
>>98587147The Hierotek KT is still being sold, and other teams like CSM got their KT sprue included in new boxes.It's random.
>>98587122BASED Fuck xenofags only Imperium content matters, these shitters should be removed from the game, out of all the NPC factions that exist for the Imperium to crush, they are the cringiest
>>98587147The phobos kt sprue isn't sold any more either. It was one of only two places you could get the helix gauntlet for Infiltrators, the other being the shadowspear sprue that is also discontinued. Despite this they've kept the helix upgrade in the new codex (and removed the comms guy who is in the normal infiltrator kit). Either we're getting a new phobos kit soon or maybe GW are bad and dumb idk.
>>98587014>Hint: It's not your pet biases from the edition you started playingBut it is.
Finally started on my idea for a tigershark transport whose purpose is to transport a riptide to a battlefield with speed. I just need to figure out how i want to do the cross bracing, might just go to some hobby stores and see what they have.
>>98587180A new phobos kit removing the silly differences between infiltrators and incursors would be nice.There's no need for 2 types of phobos troopers. Scouts should not have been refreshed.The Wolf Scouts are how it should have been done.
How do I even expand the armageddon ork side into a playable army?
>>98587180>GW are bad and dumbthis is it
>>98587197Reivers dead.
>>98587117Oh no. I’m not feeling good seeing this.I did find a forgeworld styled rogal dorn tank remake on purple site.Hopefully it will print well but I don’t have a printer setup.
>>98587190eva special long distance transport aircraft?
>>98587209Reivers look like they were supposed to be a 40k loyalist version of Night Lords terror squads from the HH. Hence also the name of their armour variant: Phobos ("Fear")But GW half-assed and botched the execution.
>>98586857
Why are meganob kombis not actual specific weapons like every other kombi in the codex??
>>98587144>no tactical rockThat feels weird seeing that.
>>98587216>forgeworld styled rogal dorn tank remake???
>>98586742>space marines>I’ve been married 11 years
>>98587220>Hence also the name of their armour variant: PhobosI'm pretty sure it's because it's the name of one of Mars' moons and Deimos is already used everywhere.
>>98587190Should be more towards the rear, but I can see how fitting it there would be more problematic.
>>98587222To make it less painful when the updated kit comes with fewer weapon options in some years, since people will be led to think having enough to represent these new profiles is sufficient, or even be happy when they have one more profile for one one more bit at the expense of everything else that's lost
I haven’t played since 9th. I’m thinking of playing in a tournament to get back into it. Is that stupid?
>>98587236But the profiles fit pretty much with the existing options, they just didn't give them their actual names.
>>98587224It is a fan made stl.I have some stuff I gotta do today so I’ll maybe buy and dump it here.I’m not sure if it is 1:1 sized with the plastic kit.
>>98587239It's a little retarded yeah. At least get a practice game in first to get the rules down before you inflict yourself on your opponents.
>>98586845Deathskulls
>>98587231>>98587218exactly.yeah, I was going to put in the rear, but the slots for the railguns, just nestle the jump pack so well, and it keeps the slot for the flight stand free.
>>98587228But those weren't designed or made in Phobos.
>>98586914>Get a StompaA stompa? Why only one? get two, get three, there's never enough stompa
>>98586743
>>98586857I'm like the anti-Bob Ross. Painting makes me furious because I suck at it. I just get angrier as I go. If I had a canvas, I'd put my fist through it.
>>98586909Nah that's pretty standard rates. You could have bought yourself a handgun for that though. In NH, all you need is a NH drivers license and you can get pretty much any gun you want. It's one of our greatest states, because the absurdly high property taxes keep out "the undesirables".
>>98587197I agree there's no need for infiltrators and incursors, they're niche units that are defined entirely by off-the-table datasheet abilities, which sucks for a miniatures game. New Infiltrators being forward deployment character assassins at least gets closer to the class fantasy.Reivers are incredibly dorky but fun and have done well for me. Eliminators suck but snipers are cool. A consolidated incursor-infiltrator datasheet would have been good, but it doesn't seem like they've done that.
>>98586720I liek your orkz :D
>>98587388The thing is that if you mix infiltrators and incursors you just get "scouts"Infiltrating in deep, tagging enemies, planting melta mines? That's scout work.
>>98587388infiltrators, incursors, and reivers will be combined into the new unit: infiltrators.
>>98587197>Scouts should not have been refreshed.Scouts are a based design, they nicely show a midway point between neophyte and full SM, and visually demonstrate the Imperium is in such a deteriorating state they can't even equip new battle brothers with full power armour. Phobos on the other hand is fuckugly. The legs look ridiculous. Like a woman's calves with Buzz Lightyear shoes.
>>98587378I know how you feel with every artist pursuit.I built my first plastic vehicle and I did some dry fitting but I still messed up. Some pieces are off center or there are gaps. Used plastic glue so can’t go back.Genuine skill issue on my part and I hate that my autism will make me look at loads of video tutorials to “learn” to hopefully get the next time right.
>Primaris are King!>Dark Eldar refresh soon, I can feel it!>I like orks :D>Who here GSC and who here JUST>Claiming this thread for Chaos Idols>Colossal Custodes Knockers!>Awoo with me, sisters!>big bouncing banshee butts>James! There's only one way to save 40k! Release the Hrud!>WHERE ARE THE MODELS YOU DAYDREAMING FAILURE
>>98587130There's no significant visual difference between primaris and firstborn and I'm tired of pretending there is
>>98587397>That's scout work"Scout work" is finding the enemy before the main element advances, never actually anything but the opposing side's scoutsEngineer work is placing mines, disarming enemy mines and re-organizing battlefield terrainMarine Engineer squads with shotguns, ladders and mineclearing equipment when
>>98586720>>98586747>>98586856>>98586992>>98587391OH LE ECKS DEE ANOTHER ORK POSTER HOW GOOD XD XD XDDDDD
>>98587405It's sloppy writing if your Infiltrators have Infiltrators but aren't the only Infiltrators in the army. Use one term for unit names and a different term for abilities, please.
>>98587417 (me)>never actually anythingnever actually fighting anything*
>>98587414Damn. The gangs all here
>>98587412Same, except I looked at a bunch of video tutorials beforehand and I still suck. It's my first week of assembling/painting models, and I might be a little better than I was at first, but still. I feel like I should be better than this.
>>98587221This is great but the very visible mould lines on the trophies hurt it badly. Could you super glue an arm to the Marine torso?
Its so over
>>98587222no one cares ork fag fucking kill yourself ecks dee
>>98587417>never actually anythingHas anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
>>98587432>>98587421
I'm not gonna be able to do my planned collage project because delivery services are being retarded. Would two severed hands count as trophies?
>>98587423Yeah some people learn slower than others.I am on the slower side most definitely.Just gotta keep going. What I need to do is write down the notes of vids of things to remember and then have them with me when assembling. Seeing the mistakes ruins my “cozy zen” i achieve when having fun.
>>98586634>staying up on a saturday night just to rev up a shitpostshould i drive up to qld just to beat the fuck outta ratfag? the cunts asking for it and he cant take me on
>>98587427Wym?>>98587432decal…
>>98587427>minis painted>terrain paintedThis is an invincible “we’re so back” ackshully.
>>98587436I dont see why not
>>98587416>Bait or retarded? Call it
Do we have the new ork points? Does the entire codex even have a single wargear cost?
I've been away for a while and returrned to the general a few weeks ago, never asked what's with the orks xd posting? QRD?
>>98587444Alright nice. I can save my original plan for next month instead if joke/reference wins.
>>98587447ORKS MENTIONED XD XD LE XDXD
>>98587446Nta but it is both because the it is bait and requires pretending to be retarded.The best bait I saw was when someone said new plastic Krieg we’re gonna have pickelhaube helmets and the stahlhelm like helmet was gonna be retconned away.His source was a BL Krieg book about how launched squigs got “impaled” on Krieg helmets.I got spooked from it because it had some basis in “reality.”
>>98587453It's just autism
>>98587397Elite veteran scouts are a fine idea that fits within the lore of some of the core chapters (wolves, raven guard, templars). But there's not a lot of room to make something interesting when scouts are always OP and intercessors get super powers for objectives/actions.
>>98587453Decalfag trying out new tactics to derail every thread.
>>98587410>a midway point between neophyte and full SMokay, but they make full SM redundant at certain tasks in the game, and that is bad> in such a deteriorating state they can't even equip new battle brothers with full power armournonsense. Scout armour has nothing to do with that, and never has been.> The legs look ridiculousI agree, they should have calves without cut outs. But the rest is somewhat ok. They would look better with exposed arms, though.
>>98587453according to the aus schizo its the one guy apparently, but in saying that have you met an australian thats of sound mind? i havent and i fucking live here
>>98587470cool eldari
>>98587180>>98587197>>98587388Phobos Tactical Squad soonJust merge those 3 basic guys and a Kill Team + add stuff from SM2
>>98587417>Marine Engineer squads with shotgunsThat's more videogame logic. Shotguns are a tool for breachers. Engineers carry the same basic firearm as any other trooper.
>>98586742>Primary SoB, secondary Death Guard and Drukhari, pile of shame T'au mechas>usually attract more Death Guard and Drukhari leaning people, no nice SoB in my dating history, just a lot of filth and suffering
It's so much cooler to have a big collection of one (1) army than having lots of smaller armies.Like oh you just bought every model ever made like it's a fucking funko pop collection?
>>98586742SoBMy high school gf went into marketing, my college gf became a nurse, my other college gf went into art, and my more recent ex works for the forestry agency and surveys national parks. They have almost nothing in common with each other. All nice people, all 4 breakups were just graduating and moving to different areas. Still long distance friends with the recent ones.
>>98587487sounds like something a scumbag secondary would say
We shouldn't blame everything on decalsloppy
>>98587487If you only have one army how can you create little fight scenes on your shelf?
>>98587497>what army do you play? all of them?! me too! we're exactly the fucking same!
>>98587496oh gee how good we get to see the SAME FUCKING MODELS POSTED IN EVERY THREAD
>>98587487Having a highly curated selection of a handful of models of multiple different (not necessarily all) factions is much better, but I have autism so I collected every model ever made for my faction like it's a funko pop collection instead.
I have a game vs. Grey Knights tomorrow as GSC, wish me luck. I don't know my opponent's list yet but I'll be playing take and hold and try to screen as much as possible.
>>98587505Models are just avatarfagging afterall>>98587496I like these, the bases and the colors match nicely
>>98587502you create fight scenes by playing games>>98587508so you just like everything equally and have no attachment to any faction whatsoever, lame
>>98586742>>98587481>filth and sufferingSame and being abused.I collect imperial guard. The war games atlantic damned look fun too.
>>98587511>so you just like everything equally and have no attachment to any faction whatsoever, lameNo, I told you, I collected everything for my one specific autistic fixation which I greatly favour over everything else, but if I weren't autistic I would definitely make multiple small collections instead, and not of every faction, and not of every model of those factions, and not because I would somehow like them equally with no specific attachment.Even in my one collection I do have more attachments regarding specific models and units but I also collected everything else.Can you even read?
Why aren't the quick and nimble Phobos marines given lightning claws
>>98587538Because primaris organization and design has no rhyme or reason.
>>98587477I already own too many phobos marines but if they did a tactical squad with classic weapon options (single-use missile launcher would be rad) in phobos only I would buy more and enjoy the tears.
>>98587496>anon struggles but still perseveresI feel inspired anon.Your models and their basing are very good too.>>98587510Is it really when it is different pictures?
>>98586941I was thinking of getting 2x wrecka crew to build 1 tankbustas and 1 breaka squad. So after I do that I'll give the extra rokkits to boyz. Idk about flamers and big shootas
>>98587537>I did something really lame, but I'm autistic, so it doesn't countLame and gay
>>98587538Claws are dumb weapons for big hulking bears to rip and tear.
>>98587548>I did something really lameI thought your stance was that you considered collecting multiple factions lame, and having one big collection of one faction much cooler.So why are you saying I did something lame when I collected one big collection of one faction?Are you dumb or ESL?
>>98587554Bears have calws.
Anons what other wargames do you play besides 40K and how would you say it compares to 40K in terms of games and mini quality?
>>98587584Play?
>>98587446It's true
>>98587538Wait, when did Kabalites get reduced to 7" movement? Were they not 8" move last edition?
>>98587584>>98587588Collect/Paint and/or play*If you don't play just answer about minis
>>98587554>>98587578>bears mentioned:D
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2_qsKQWD0wGod this music is pure sex, can't stop listening to it
>>98586158Not letting you slip by thinking you're right
>>98587599Burgers?
>>98587453IDK, people seem to think it's a conspiracy with one guy doing it, but I know it's multiple people. He'll, I've posted multiple times "I like Orks! :D" because....I like Orks? It's not just me, I know there's at least a couple other dudes doing it for fun. It's the "ORKS ECKSDEE Xdxdxdx" asshat that I think is just abrasive.
I'm setting up another weekend practice game. >>98587510>>98587545Thanks they're my favorite. I will always play them even when it's rough.>>98587584Most people pick up killteam if they play 40k since they have the models. I play Novitiates and Insidiants. I like the rules.I played khador and cygnar in warmachine for the first couple editions, but I haven't played in years. That was a really fun game.I play rebels in star wars legion. Great game but I rarely get to play.I play Lumineth in AoS. I like AoS but I rarely get to play these days.Oh I played rebels in X-Wing and I play Luminara in Shatterpoint. But it's been years since I played either of those.I bought into a few others over the years that didn't stick around like Dark Age, also fun but the handful of people at my store that bought in didn't stick with it.Moving to another city that has no large stores has really killed playing anything that isn't 40k. I moved from one of the best wargaming cities to one that has very little.These are all good games that offer different experiences than 40k. I've never played a "bad" game, it's just that most of them don't stick around and/or aren't as popular so finding someone to play with is harder.I am tempted by the new starcraft game but I'll probably not collect since it would be another case of hard to find a game. I already only play 40k against another human maybe once a month and mostly just do practice/demos with my own armies.
>>9858758440k is kind of a class of its own. my local area has a pretty decent battletech scene. trench crusade seems to be something that people are excited about. now that they are getting a plastic starter box I could see LGSes getting more hyped for it. quality seems close to GW.
>>98587122was a matter of time tbdesu hand of the archon had been sitting out of stock for like what, 1 year? 2?
>>98587639mintharafag?
>>98586772>Night Lords>Never had a gftangentially related but warhammer girls I've interacted with cream their pants over konrad curze
>>98587595they went down to 7mov and 7 ld in the 10e codex
>>98586650No, if I would be interested in a female army then I would play SoB.
>>98586742>imperial fists>submissive girls, with or without a penis (doesnt really matter to me much)
>>98586742thousand chudsgoing to become a wizard in 2 years but i think ive made peace with becoming the "weird rich single uncle" of the family. the closest thing i have to an ex was a highschool redhead who got hospitalized right before prom for having a schizophrenic episode and almost drowning herself, never saw or heard from her again
>>98587509>don't know my opponent's list yet99% chance he'll have the Crowe purifier deathstar. Don't overextend and screen to avoid the 6" deepstrike
>>98587682I became a wizard and got a gf after. What do you call that? Being a lich maybe?
>>98587584I really want to try the new starcraft gameI also never played that halo game but I want to try that one tooKill team is a lot of fun
>>98587668Yeah it's him.
>>98587591Yeah the primary difference really is just that front faceplateGetting rid of that triangular vox grill look really does have alot of people pissed off in hereAnd I get it, the look is pretty iconicBut like just kitbash the old helmets onto the new models if you care that muchI think they might eventually try to redesign into a middle ground anyway
>>98587680>This retard doesn't know girls can't have penisesDidn't you get sex education as a teen?
>>98587639Really nice stuff anon. and I see those exodites you posted before in the corner. good shit
>>98587705>What do you call that?A traitor
>>98586733 What AI Model do you use to mock the scheems up? I use a few different pieces of software to mock up my own paint schemes but it's one at a time and slow. AI could probably do an entire array of schemes in way less time that it would a person.
>>98587723>I think they might eventually try to redesign into a middle ground anywaythe new multipart kit is basically that. I think they waited to squat battle brothers until the release of this kit specifically for the aesthetic purists.
>>98587682>highschool redhead who got hospitalized right before prom for having a schizophrenic episodeYou have great power cultivate it
>>98587612I don't know what you think this proves, retard. It says right in the screenshot you posted that some of them are not Primaris and in the other screenshot that they are not Primaris suits.
I like orks :D
>>98587670Yeah cuz hes hot like me
>>98587744>the new multipart kit is basically that.It's not. Where's the middle ground? This is just intercessors as always with a single token mk7 faceplate.
These four words literally mindbroke primaris shitters forever, irrecoverable psychological damage that their newfag overcompensating lanklet marines aren't always the best and most special snowflakes.
>>98587755many are saying this
>>98587682You can make it anon. Men increase in value in the dating market, relative to women of the same age, as they get older. There's even hot cougars rebounding off failed relationships up for grabs.>Fix your personal hygiene - fresh breath, shave neckbeard, shower daily, have a haircut>Get job if you don't already have one>Get car>Hit the gym or running track. You don't have to be super fit, just not skinnyfat. The uglier/shorter you are though, the more you should exercise to compensate>Get a social hobby you genuinely like, which some women are also likely to attend (40k almost qualifies as this, but women are too rare). Could be anything: running club, movie club, book club, darts team, trivia team, skiing, mixed basketball, cards night, board game club, etc>Bee urself :^) just be casually social and make friends both male and female>If you make friends with a woman you like, and you're hitting it off, ask for her number, invite her out to coffeeIt worked for me it can work for you
>>98587746I was not expecting to see an edit or that old meme template. Brought back some memories.Should I sell or donate my warhammer 40k army?I’m a hopeless autist. I try to get along but even with helpful or curious intentions I often get scorn. It’s probably me to be honest.I’m probably gonna 27 club myself I turn 28 next year. Proposed army related work may not turn out well and I’m just tired of constant abuse.
>>98587755Only good thing about the orks is mega armor and squigs.
>>98587752>some of them are not Primaristhe models are specifically primaris ones, or they would be shorter
>>98587744>the new multipart kit is basically thatIt's like 95% Mk X and 5% Mk VII, that's not a middle ground. A middle ground is 50/50.>>98587723>Yeah the primary difference really is just that front faceplateAnd the stupid ass knee flanges and oversized badly angled gorget and the ugly fisher price toy backpack which has zero variation model to model and the stupid ankle knobs and the too-long boltguns and a dozen other minor things that aren't an issue on their own but add up, especially when on top of all the shit I just mentioned and the bad lore rape and GW's dickish way of basically telling us "eat this slop and like it" when they released them and got huge pushback.
>>98587744that’s not the multipart kit, that’s a monopose kit for armageddon (2 mk7s and no mk6 btw)the reveal for the actual multipart kit* that will release looks even worse than that one. with all of them being mk10. *I don’t believe there’s any confirmation that it will be multipart.
>>98587723The main problem is >the excessive scale increase (HH is more tasteful for a miniature wargame)>the manbra cuirass>the huge knee flanges>the cankles >The stupid tacticool super srs assault rifle replacing the beloved campy 80s sci fi bolter>And yes the faceplate
>>98587752>some of them are not PrimarisWhich means some of them are indeed primaris terminators.Which one do you think is the primaris terminator?
>>98587742free version of chat gpt
>>98587777No they aren't, it says right there they are not primaris. That article was about the new models. It is saying these new Terminator models for 10th edition are not primaris. That's what it says in black and white. >>98587760>>98587760>>98587760Cope eternally. Seethe as well.
>>98587781For here I think the pak trolling was meant to make us hate primaris.It may have all been done by pro firstborn fans the whole time.
>>98587755Me too>was ready to grab new stuff at the LGS from codex wave today>didn't realize GW had apparently started doing 2 week preorder windows for basically everything lately, and not just larger scale releases>I work overtime next weekendI like orks D:
>>98587770>Men increase in value in the dating market, relative to women of the same age, as they get older.I don't know what 'peak daddy energy' means, but apparently I have it.
>>98587784>Which one do you think is the primaris terminator?Neither because the middle one is the new model which they said is not a Primaris Terminator and the one on the right is the old model that is just there for size comparison.
>>98587723I wouldn't complain if primaris looked like this. But they fucked up the armour and the proportions with the lanky torsos and the retardedly long weapons.
>>98587744Don't argue with these people.You can show them a million different variations, you can point out the models now have different chest plates, leg greaves, and small differences even between the mkX helmets. Differences that didnt exist before because every box had the exact same model just in a different pose. If anything they match most with SW because of the mismatched armour variations being standard now. But it doesn't matter because the frame of the marine is primaris and they'll always bitch about it.
>>98587770modern women are not even remotely worth the effort
>>98587792>Daddy energyOn that note, women go nuts for forearms. Get you a collared long sleeve shirt and roll the sleeves up. Chicks dig that shit
>>98587799>But it doesn't matter because the frame of the marine is primaris and they'll always bitch about it.It doesn't matter because it's still all mkX and the units still works nothing like the classic ones.
>>98587787>It is saying these new Terminator models for 10th edition are not primaris.It also says in black and white that primaris now wear terminator armor.Weird how you're very selective about that.
>>98587793>Neither
>>98587799>you can point out the models now have different chest plates, leg greaves, and small differences even between the mkX helmetsRetard we know that, everyone has admitted this is an improvement, but it's not good enough. It's like 20% of the way there to having the variation and aesthetic quality of the old Tactical kit. They had twice as much variation in chest plates and greaves, 10x as much in the helmets, infinity as much in the backpacks, more variation in the shoulder pads, in the belts, they had cables, they had studded legs, they had special weapons and heavy weapons and shit. I'm not paying for this pathetic downgrade.
>>98587779I’m sure they knew they were going to get some pushbackThey were ready for it
>>98587805The same armour as the firstborn, who are represented by the new models as well. The height differences have been retconned to no longer be more than a few inches.
>>98587801You say that but there's ~3 billion adult women on the planetThere's still a lot of tradwives in that figure, even in the decadent West and especially in the Asian and Slavic spheres
>>98587788its shitposting from all sides. there’s a chaosfag here who defends primaris despite not even playing them, and instead playing an army that actually got good updates to marines.
James! There's only one way to save 40k! Release the Hrud!
>>98587787the article is very clear about what it's saying >primaris now wear terminator armor too>their terminator armor is not some weirdly improved new pattern like mkX is to previous power armoursthe models are primaris
>>98587818>The same armourPATTERN, not size, the manlets are shorter.>who are represented by the new models as well.they aren't >The height differences have been retconned to no longer be more than a few inches.they haven't
>>98587828All it's saying is that INSIDE the armour some of them can be primaris if you want to imagine that because you are a faggot who likes that lore rape. But that it's the SAME exact armour that the firstborn have always been wearing, and there are also Firstborn inside the suits. The height difference is now negligible. Black Library had already begun retconning it anyways, and Firstborn in Horus Heresy had already been scaled up much taller.
>>98587799I need you to understand that if I ask for mixed armours it means I want pieces from mk3, 4, 5, 6 and 7, not slight variations of mkX pieces.
>>98587833>they aren'tThat's literally, explicitly, inarguably what the article says, so you're coping and wrong, possibly illiterate.
>>98587779I think youre maybe being excessively harshThe big gorget gives them a tankier look imoThe knee flanges are a decent idea, they just need to be downsized closer to what actual armor hasI think they made the guns longer for more readability on the tabletopThe backpack is mehI dont love every aspect of it but its not that bad
>>98587744There's no variation in this kit that wasn't already in the range on sternguard, company heroes, or wolves kits (even terminators have the same ideas present). To act like it's some step in a different direction is crazy, they've been doing it since 10th launch.
>>98587843>That's literally, explicitly, inarguably what the article saysNo, it isn't, it says that primaris can wear terminator armor, not that any of the new models are specifically firstborn marines
>>98587837Thats gonna be a fucking expensive box then man lolIf they’re gonna have that many options in itI mean I’m down but thats probably gonna be a fucking expensive box
>>98586665Everyone wants to play the oldhammer edition when their guys were the best, and not the ones where they sucked.
Lol lmao Primarisfags are illiterate ESLs
>>98587821why must you turn this thread into a house of lies?
>>98586651I prefer the new WS/BS and AP systems and the newer range of strength and toughness and wounds because it gives a wider variety of units instead of literally all infantry being 1W T3 or T4. They could reasonably should make getting 2+/6+ to wound like 3+ or higher difference instead of double the strength/toughness to keep the numbers down if they wanted to.People who bitch about wanting the old rules often forget that it just turns into spamming lascannons with vehicles blowing up in 1 turn the moment theyre visible and it has a lot of retarded oddities such as armor being completely worthless or 100% impervious, like a heavy kills a tau firewarrior but then doesnt even better penetrate the armor of marine compared to a lasgun. The lack of a damage stat also makes multi wound models wierd>>98587200tankbusta/breaka boy kits for anti tank and killa kanz are a really good choice. Another combo is squighog boyz + a squigosaur>>98587447Most units jumped 15-20% in price for example 10 boyz is 90 points and a warboss is 100, not sure about wargear costs but certain weapons such as lascannons and multi-meltas now cost an extra 5 points but units that had these had their base point costs cut so not taking them gets you cheaper units than before the wargear costs. Orks are S5 base now but the strength and attack buffs got removed from the waaagh! GW is basically trying to make orks effective all game long instead of being stuck to 1 turn. Lots of shooting got lethal hits vs non vehicles/monsters to compensate for cover now reducing BS
>>98587836>there are also Firstborn inside the suits.represented by different models, if you want firstborn marines, not by the new ones, who are clearly primaris because primaris now wear terminator armour too and these are all primaris sized and not firstborn sized
>>98587867>represented by different modelsThat is literally not what the article says you coping sperg, the article is specifically talking about the NEW models and saying they are worn by Firstborn.
I can't believe you faggots are STILL falling for this bait
>>98586739Lictor? I hardly know her!
>>98587874We’re talking about 40k what are you whining about?
>>98587869the article is not saying anything about the new models representing firstborn marines, that's just your delusion
>>98587470Damn those legs look MUCH betterI meant to do some converted Phobos. I printed 1:1 versions of their original legs and simply meant to alter them with greenstuff. And right after printing found much better alternative. Destroyed my mood for the project heh
I actually don't mind MkX except for the helmets, visors, gorgets, breastplates, power packs, vambraces, belts, cuisses, schynbalds, ankle rondels, and sabatons. I also don't care for Cawl pattern bolt rifles. It's not even the rails or length, it's that stupid fucking gyroscope they put in every gun. It looks dumb as hell.I also like the new termies and scouts. They are almost perfect remakes of classic models, like 90% there. And that's good enough.
>>98587883>the article is not saying anything about the new models representing firstborn marinesThat's literally what all of those paragraphs of text posted above are talking about. Everything it is saying is specifically in regard to the new models. Saying "Firstborn wear them too" is talking about the NEW kit. The old one was retconned out of existence when these released, there are not different sizes of Terminator armour, these are just the newest kit representing the SAME suits that always existed, the old Terminators are now retroactively always this big.
>>98587863I'm living proof that we can all make it brah. Every year on 4chan as well I see the ageing and shrinking population of the site referring to their wives/kids more and more so it's not just meIf nothing else, everything in that list of advice is worth doing for one's own health, self-worth and fun. If you pick up a good woman along the way consider it an added bonus
>>98587891>I actually don't mind MkX except for the helmets, visors, gorgets, breastplates, power packs, vambraces, belts, cuisses, schynbalds, ankle rondels, and sabatons.KekSame brother, same
Primaris in general, just look gay, is all. They just look meh. I just don't like them. Won't pay money for them. It's really that simple. Models are expensive and if GW wants me to spend money on models they need to make them more than just average or good enough, they have to be exceptional, they have to tickle my brain in all the right ways, they have to be fucking awesome. Primaris are just super fucking mid. Some of them in previous editions were downright bad, awful even, but these days they're usually just mid. But mid isn't good enough for my money. Sorry! I'm just not going to buy them is all. Why don't you make some space marines like this, James?
>>98587900women are a meme and I'm not wasting my time and energy on them, they'll soon be made obsolete by sex bots anyway
>>98587862
>>98587909Sup with the copypasta?
>>98587897>That's literally what all of those paragraphs of text posted above are talking aboutno, the article says that fluffwise now both firstborn and primaris can wear terminator armor, it says nothing about the actual new models being firstborn marines insides, also because they're obviously all primaris due to the size.The old one was retconned out of existence when these releasedno, it wasn't, it kept being sold for a while, and the assault version even longer, the two coexisted nice together for a while because fluffwise both firstborn and primaris can wear the armor, so you could buy the new primaris one or the old firstborn ones, or mix and match them, since they don't even have different equipments or rules anyway.>the SAME suitssame pattern, not same suits
>>98587909does this count as a ritual poster to be added to >>98587414
>>98587891I hate how the MkX has retconned all power armour to be Halo undersuits with plates slapped on top, rather than sealed suits with flexible joints.
>>98587910>sour grapes because anon doesn't want to get a job, brush his teeth, or do a hobby he enjoys Suit yourself, more for the rest of us
>>98586857The color scheme needs revising
>>98587804>>98587837>>98587814Like I said, you're mad because it's still a primaris with a monopose torso frame and not just the same tactical marine kit that's upscaled. GW could come out tomorrow and say that intercessors are now being made to play like tactical marines with some more weapon options and new variations in bits, and you'd still be unhappy because it's a mkx primaris frame no matter what. There is no solution here for you lot that isn't short of getting a time machine and walking into GW with a gun demanding no changes.
>>98587934Anon probably does all of those things lolThis is the 40k general you gotta get the fuck on topic take that shit to r9k
>>98587920>no,Yes, I'm not even reading the rest of your cope, you are illiterate.
>>98587938I really like it so far actually but yeah a well chosen secondary color would be good
>>98586782Descent or Squeeze.Knee was around somewhere between 6th to 9th.
>>98587943>There is no solution here for you lotThere's actually a really easy solution dude, they just make a fucking upscaled Tactical kit the same size as the Horus Heresy plastic marines that mixes and matches bits from all the different marks from 2 through 7 and they give it 40k rules.
>>98587943>there's no solution other than fixing the mistakeI mean, yeah. If we wanted to COMPROMISE, giving the intercessors some special and heavy weapons that get them closer to the way marines are supposed to play makes it easier to use real marines as "legendary proxies", but I have a whole fuckton of plasma gun guys with battleline arrows that don't have a home now that they can't go in a battleline squad
if i want to introduce normal 40k to my normie friends, would you rec the pre-made combat patrols or just throwing something together to like, 500 pointsi succesfully got them to regularly play kill team and i want to keep boiling the frog
>>98587944Fairo m9
>>98587945All you have to do is post where the article says anything about the new models specifically representing firstborn too, rather than tall about the fluff in general.But you can't do that, because it doesn't say anything like that, because the new models are all primaris.
>>98587970>where the article says anything about the new models specifically representing firstborn tooSure, right here >>98587612 and here >>98586158, because the entire article is an advertisement for the new models talking entirely about the new models.
>>98587752>I don't know what you think this proves, retard. well your claim of >they're not primaris terminatorsis completely wrongbut cute trying to shift the goalposts by going S-SOME OF THEM ARE STILL FIRSTBORN THO!!!
>>98587983>well your claim ofIt's not my claim, it's GWs words, lmao. You guys are reaching and coping so desperately and it's fucking funny as hell when >>98587862 just fucking shreds your asshole every single time.
>>98587692I'm almost certain a Stormraven Gunship will appear
>>98587990It's not GW's words, because this right here >>98587612 states that they ARE primaris, they just can also be firstborn stillkeep crying
>>98587977>right here >>98587612 # and here >>98586158no, it doesn't say anything about the models specifically, it's talking about fluff, and then talking about the new models, which are explained by the fact primaris can now wear terminator armorI'll give you another try to post something that ACTUALLY says the new models are meant to be firstborn
>>98587997>inside the suits it can be either oneOkay but the suits aren't Primaris they're the same suits as before and the Firstborn Terminators were always that height too. Because they're not even new suits, they're LITERALLY the same suits that were already around before Primaris appeared. You can even see this old art from over a decade before Primaris that has the proportions of the new models, so this is always what the models were meant to represent.
>>98588004lacks the primaris ankle balls of the new modelsthey're new suits
Why do people even give a fuck?We are moving in the direction of primaris anyway so even if these guys aren’t terminators or whatever stupid shit you guys are arguing about, do we really think there won’t eventually be primaris terminators?Like we’re clearly moving in that direction
>t-terminators are primaris!! See we're coolGravis utterly fucking failed as a termie replacement. Cope and sneed
>>98587997Reading isn't supposed to be this hard at your age
>>98588017ironic coming from an illiterate retard who's crying at being BTFO by a single sentence
>>98587771>Should I sell or donate my warhammer 40k army?Are you desperate for money? If not why?>It’s probably me to be honest.Normies are always cruel to the neurodivergent>Proposed army related work may not turn out well and I’m just tired of constant abuse.If you mean joining the military absolutely fucking not.
>>98588004>and the Firstborn Terminators were always that height too.no, they weren't>Because they're not even new suits, they're LITERALLY the same suits that were already around before Primaris appearedsame pattern, not same suits, if they were the same suits they got adapted to the larger marine, because primaris are larger>so this is always what the models were meant to represent.no, when gw makes firstborn marines, like in chaos and hh, they're smaller than the new primaris terminators
>>98587190>If you've got a ship that can carry a riptide, why not just put guns on the ship and use it instead?
>>98587938Diamond marines!
>>98587771Shit gets better dudeJust chillStack your money exercise regularly get lots of sleepBuild and maintain meaningful skills and relationshipsAnd just keep moving forward dude“He who has a why can bear almost any how” and all thatAlso orkz are pretty darn cool
>>98587963I have always agreed that the intercessors should have been made to play like tacticals from a rules standpoint, and that they should be able to have those options to hold a melta, a plasmagun, etc. Things like hellblasters, infernus, and other specialized units wouldn't really be effected by this because they can still be useful as separate units. My original post was always about the aesthetic choices of the models, not how they play. Because I personally would have preferred that intercessors be released with the same rules, just better than firstborn in terms of stats.
>>98588026because the ship cannot deploy on the ground and within more cramped terrains and maintain the same combat effectiveness
>>98587956Better get that gun and time machine then, lmao.
>>98588026>Letting the Aircaste do the firecaste job.
>>98587771have you tried therapy? specifically seek out male shrinksi know guys who managed to turn their life around with help from one, but i've also seen others who haven'tif you haven't tried it might be worth the gamble
>>98588004That artwork doesn't have the same proportions as the new models, not even the same proportions as the new artworks.It's completely out of scale like many other illustrations.
So wait, can I proxy HH marines for loyalist stuff or am I still forced to use them CSM where I can have some real fun?
>>98588017Can you read?You keep doubling down on >These are not primaris terminatorseven after anon posted a statement from GW saying "Primaris who have joined more recently can wear a suit of Tactical Dreadnought armour if they've earned the right."
>>98588056You can, if you're not one of those autists who can't stand calling their tacticals intercessors instead
>>98587938what the fuck is this?do you have an entire army painted like this?
>>98587771Shit gets worse, I'm 31 and worse than ever, I can't even kill myself without causing issues for those who don't deserve it.
>>98588056As long as your opponent isn't a neurotic autistic, yeah.
you know what i hatethe fucking nundamsparagon warsuits look ridiculous morven vahl looks ridiculous
>>98588020>>98588059>these can be either A or B>urr these must be A thenYou're not getting the gold star this week, I'm gonna have to tell your parents about your bad grades.
>>98587938Needs another color, like a deeper blue or a green. Stripes or whatever.
>>98588075>u-uh y-yeah they CAN be primaris but they don't HAVE to begoalposts shifted once againI accept your concession
>>98588079I was thinking a darker blueOr maybe like a reddish sort of burnt sienna type colorDepends on if they want something to pop like the red or if they want something more subtle like that different shade of blue
>>98588075>>these* can be either A or B>>urr these** must be A then* fluffwise**actual models
>>98588095Yellow pauldrons, awoo
>>98588015I like the look and strength of Gravis, yall are just haters
>>98588113nah that shit would be ugly
>>98587480I was thinking of a way to differentiate them more from generic battleline, like Krieg Combat Engineers having shotguns.Giving them special weaponry that suits their role as needing to be closer to the enemy and so on.
>>98587953>>98588079I chose a more neutral armor color so squad markings etc. would stand out more but I need to plan those out and it looks plain without them. It's just a tester, I'll try a different blue for the basecoat.>>98588095Red was my default choice. I'm going for something white scarsy, but not actual white scars, so picking a different color for the markings could help make them distinct.>>98588028Now I know what to do for next month's collage.>>98588063It's just a single space marine for now.
>>98586742SoBWomen from former communist countries. One was Romanian, one was Vietnamese, one was Russian. I am a white American.
>>98586742NLArthoe/alt
>>98586742> Eldar>ExtypeTomboy redhead with big floppy tits. Absolutely nuts. Didn't know how good I had it at the time. Other chick was a family friend , Polish girl, who was even more crazy, beautiful girl but insane.
>>98587611Darktide ost is honestly overrated. It sounds cool, but feels too much like Kyd doing his own electric music and classic music mix just like Hitman instead of fitting it to 40k. He did better in VT2 where Skaven and Norscans got their own music. Making Skaven music sound as if it was performed on broken instruments was a stroke geniusRogue Trader has much better ost. Every faction has completely different vibe and style. Chaos battle music is some metal/rock, Imperial typical choirs, Deldar high pitched orchestra etc.
Ah, so you guys are doing the primaris vs firstborn thing again. Like every day. How about to mix things up and do something new, we play a game together. Terrain and everything else is ready to go. Let's choose our contestants. Here are 4 lists I came up with. Some slight changes since I want to try some new things. Let's vote and the two that get the most votes are featured in this weekend's game.Also, I'll break out the Dominatus deck and see what's in there.https://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/jFR35https://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/JyQ5ghttps://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/JjD7bhttps://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/e8P64
For me, it's the Tome Keepers.
>>98588236I agree. I like the game but the OST wasn't really ever anything special.
>>98586742OrksDon't have an ex, still with my first gf
>>98588254> Orks player the only one still together with gf, first one tooMakes sense really. Gl anon hope you have a nice relationship with her.
>>98586742Imperial GuardI have only ever had one girlfriend and I am going to marry her next year. Autistic little tomboy brunette whom I paint models with.
>>98588245cool white scars marine!
>>98588243I vote for nids. Don't care against what
>>98586742World Eaters and Sisters of BattleI have never loved.
>>98586742Night lordsNo exesTalked to some other girls but nothing serious, they all had something wrong with them, usually just would lie about shit for no reasonMarried highschool sweetheartBeen together 13 years
>>98586742>Drukhari/AdMech/Deathguard >In order Big Titty Goth Girl, LARP/HEMA Sword Girl Tomboy, and Artsy Sex-Pistol BPD Dancer>Wife is short trad French woman with a breeding fetish and crazy curves she always hides in baggy or modest clothes because she's super self conscious about it. Told me she made a wish as a little girl to look like Jessica Rabbit and God granted it as punishment for her vanity.
>>98588273T-thanks..*Pic related later this evening*
>>98588243anything but marines. eldar and sob are probably the least common so them
>>98588243If I’m understanding this right, you’re using your two armies against each other, and a random anon replies with what he wants his army to do for the turn?
>>98588243Nids vs Eldar or Sisters
>>98588359That sounds like fun but that would be super slow and would take all day and would take constant updating. Maybe we'll set that up ahead of time some other day. For today I was thinking the thread just votes on what armies are in it, and I'll just do a few updates like per turn as I go through one of the random dominatus missions. >>98588332>>98588279>>98588363Nids have 2 votesEldar have 2 votesSoB have 2 votesMarines have 0 votesPoor marines are feeling left out.We need a tiebreaker, one last vote.
>>98588387Nids vs Eldar
>>98587858Why would it be more expensive? It's the same amount of bits in the box, just of different marks instead of only one.
>>98587943>There is no solution here for you lot that isn't short of getting a time machine and walking into GW with a gun demanding no changes.Yes, they could kill all primaris and make upscaled firstborn.
Do people really still meet up and play with complete strangers out of the blue at game stores? It seems like the more common thing nowadays is you check in with a chat group before game day and formally schedule or informally agree to a certain type of game. I was just looking at what is expected for a contemporary 11th edition match and between all the shit you need and length of game and complexity of setup, I can't really see casual pickup games happening....
>>98588403I would never play with a random I only play with my boys
>>98588410based
>>98588410same, but that's because I got autism
>>98588410Based with the caveat that it's fine to play a random if they pass the vibe check (most don't), at that point they are a new friend, not a random.
>>98587682>an irl wizard playing thousand sonshe's too powerfuli hope you're actually happy with the single life, i've thought about it before but i dont think i could do it
>>98587378Unironically same, but I savor the anger
>>98588410I mean I think the pinnacle of the game is having a match with someone you have a real relationship with. Tournaments make sense since everything is planned out in advanced. I am just trying to make sense of open play style scheduling at venues. I think nowadays its more of free or paid table reservation system than social hour where you find someone to play with on the spot. But I could be wrong.
>>98588243Okay p cool, I vote nids
>>98588473The pinnacle of the game is campaign play with a group of dudes who all do homebrew and everyone is making conversions of their own personal dudes and writing little bits of lore and rules based on the results of the games. This is literally how Ghazghkull and Yarrick* were made btw, it just happened to be GW game designers who were making those dudes so it all became official.* Sort of it Yarrick's case, his lore predates the 40k games, but it evolved based on them
What annoys me the most about T5 marines is that someone has to stay at the bottom of the totem pole, we can't all be brought up to the marine standard, and the unit that will very obviously not get more thoughness and strength is the humble genestealer cultist.The army that is struggling right now because it has no way to deal with heavy armor, while everyone else has plenty of anti-horde.The army that has no tanks, with its only non-transport vehicle profile being extremely lacklusterThe army that is shackled to the ridgerunner datasheet to get it back up to a standard AP, which GW seems to have forgotten because they keep making it more expensive as if we can choose to not take themThe army with it's devastator equivalents, the acolyte hybrids, nerfed into oblivion to the point that nobody takes them for the special weapons anymore.The army that consistently has to skip on activations to make it to the 1:30 mark in tournaments because of how many models we're forced to take.It sucks to be a hybrid.
>>98588472based
>>98587190well the magnets holding it up at least, I'll work on the cradle another day, I'm not satisfied with how it looks currently.
>>98588492So... what you're saying is... Who here GSC and who here JUST?
>>98587378learn to meditate while painting. stop thinking so much while working and you won't be so angry.
>>98588492don't worry, xenos just gonna be garbage until we get our year 3 codices
>>98587190>>98588498Oh shit the madlads actually doing it! Godspeed
>>98588494My anger unironically fuels me to fix whatever I fucked up or finish the model, it's starting to paint that is the issue with me. Haven't painted since January cuz the motivation ain't there, but I have a sick army idea I stole off of here so I'm decently motivated, I just gotta clean my room since my painting spacer is taken up by random crap rn
>>98588506Not orkz BITCH
>>98588492I'm really curious which direction they are going to go with this and whether all the T3 armies are going to get even more hordey with point drops or if everyone is scaling up in points to become slightly more elite and reduce the buy-in cost of the average 2k army as prices go up on models. I suspect it will be the latter of the two.
>>98588520yeah orks are gonna be shit once they eat the triple tap nerf and languish as weaker, slower, less tough and less shooty marines for 2 and a half years until there's some random new warboss who reads "your entire army is always in the waaaagh and also it gives a 4++"
>>98588520Bro Orks are the first codex of the edition they're going to be powercrept bottom tier in a matter of months
>>98588498Nice start. Do you plan on using the flyer as an attack craft or is it just a transport? If just a transport, maybe strip it of extra weapons, keeping mostly defensive ones as it descends from orbit, drops its payload, and leaves.I wonder if you could fill the railgun housings with mechanical arms that clamp onto the suit. Like a harness. They could come over the shoulders and after the suit drops, fold into the housings. IG Sentinel legs have been used for large servo-arms before, though I don't know well the current ones work. Might use some cabling and tubing connecting the two, but don't know how it'd interfere with removing the suit from the flyer.
>>98588080>>98588111Saying something isn't A doesn't mean they can't be A, it can mean it's agnostic (as is the case here)Seems reading isn't the only problem here.
>>98588503my biggest problem is getting the paint consistency right, they tell me to thin my paints but then it runs down the parts that I want to be other colors>>98588509>I just gotta clean my roomdo it, and wash your penis while you're at it
>>98588533You lost, keep crying faggot
>>98588538>wash your penisI shower daily I'm just a lazy cunt who keeps buying shit>picrelNo need to call me out man
>>98587378when I was 13 years old I assembled my Shadowsword tank wrong. It left a massive gap where the tracks meet the body. 15 years later I still look at it on my shelf and I feel furious about it. I can never paint it to fix it, nor can I sell it to get rid of it. It just haunts me.
>>98588522They want less total models on the field across the board.They decreased the point cost for guard tanks to the point where 5/8 Russ variants are the same point cost or cheaper than 20 Cadians.At GW prices, one Russ kit is $70, and 20 Cadians are $106 (2x53). This alone indicates my conclusion, or at the very least they thought about how hard it'd be for guard to fight the new marine statline (without considering any other faction,such as GSC or SoB).
>>98588539NTA but you lost so hard the moment "These aren't Primaris Terminators" was posted the entire rest of the thread was just you coping and seething and most people didn't bother to argue with you because it's just so evident that's what you're doing
>>98588539>"winning" online argumentsYeah bigger problems at play here
>T5 becomes the new infantry standard>99% of S4 weapons remain at S4
>>98588557>>99% of S4 weapons remain at S4Yeah, that's not gonna happen though
having a really hard time deciding on the color scheme of my deldar genuinely tempted to go with that generic whatever color incubi darkness makesi'd have tried to go for something purple but i already painted my crons purplemaybe black and red or white and red like it's phyrexia
>>98588538>my biggest problem is getting the paint consistency right, they tell me to thin my paints but then it runs down the parts that I want to be other colorsVallejo game color on wet palette is easy mode you don't have to do anything. Citadel paints vary like crazy and its just a pain dealing with the pots.
>Valrak suggesting Plague Marines are going to T7 3 Wounds
>>98586634I want to fuck Gigi.That is all.
>Game balance and any sort of gameplay lore integration completely destroyed because marinefaggots whined that their specshul boyz weren't speshul enoughI can't believe we're finally here
>>98588557>choppas are S5>bolters are s5 and 6???
>>98588531I'm being greedy and trying to magnetize it to swap between the attack aircraft or the transport. so in order to do that, I'm going to create the harness/cradle in such a way that it glues to the riptide instead of the tiger shark, and then the whole riptide is actually held on by magnets. The mechanical arms from the railgun housing is actually a really good idea though and I have the perfect bits to use for that.
>>98588553>bitchmade cryingyawn>>98588556Yes yes keep whining about being BTFOnta btw
>>98588565alternatively i could do them to be poisoned tongue since that's lady malys' goonsquad one thing floating through my mind is having them colored based on my gacha game waifu
>>98588580>Tau pulse rifles are said to be inarguably stronger than bolt weapons>5 0 1>Bolt weapons are said to be garbage at killing other marines>6 1 2
>>98588567>Valrak the fucktard idiot asking is it fair for CSM to keep their vindicatorsYES IT IS YOU FAT COCKSUCKER SM GET NEW VEHICLES CSM DON'T HAVE A VINDI REPLACEMENT AND THEIR LORE IS THEY USE OLD SHIT ANYWAY IT PERFECTLY DIFFERENITIATES THEM FROM SM FUCK YOU YOU FAT FUCK!
>>98588580>tfw strength 6 2 damage bolters means that marines are going to be MORE fragile than before
>>98588565do it based off of a v-tuberin-lore archons and succubi sometimes stream raids, with specialized implants so people back at cumrag can see and feel what the raiders are feelingYou can have a lore-friendly streamer raider
>>98586742Guard and NidsBleeding heart shitlib. She literally volunteered at an NGO that was smuggling nigs through Cyprus into Europe.
>>98588593>tfw I have to deal with my venoms getting 3-shot by giga bolters
>>98588580>Shuriken Rifles are the pinnacle of psycho-rifle technology>S4 AP-1>Imperium rooty tooty point and shooty>S5 AP-1
>>98588593just house rule and give them T7 with 3 wounds
>>98588599>tfw Deldar have to wait two years for a buff and get vehicles 2/4'd by basic infantry weapons until then
>>98588599>my eldar... are fragile???
>>98588603>Necron gauss weapons disintegrate marines on contact>S4 AP 0 Dam 1>Spicy flashlight>S3 AP1 Dam 1The spicy flashlight is better at killing astartes than the gauss
>>98588603doesn't hold a candle to my mining equipment
>>98588596i don't watch vtubers or streamers in general, since it feels like the experience of waiting on your sibling to finish playing on the computer i have a lot of other problems with vtubing but this one is the most relevant
>>98588614>Are eldar faster than marinesNo, that's a marine thing >Well do they have better access to advance and charge?No, that's a marine thing >Do they have better movement tricks?No, that's a marine thing >Well surely they have better damage?No, that's a marine thing >Better durability?No, that's a marine thing >Better Psykers?No, that's a marine thing >Well surely they're super cheap per wound in comparison?No, that's a marine thing >Better melee?No, that's a marine thing >Better characters?No, that's a marine thing
>>98588569Insanely based
>>98588584You could always magnetize the extra weapons for swapping between transport and attack craft. Maybe put extra fuel tanks or thrusters in their place for the transport variant to help with carrying the suit. The Razorshark comes with wing mounted extra engines.
How long should i keep painted minis in ispropyl alcohol before scrubbing to strip them? Bought some second hand painted firstborn for evil
>>98588596imagine Harlequin Filian flipping all over the place.
>>98588642depends on the paint usedget a stiff disposable toothbrush and test them after an hourthe older the model the more likely you'll need to soak them for a couple days to get those durable primers and thick paint layers to lift off
>>98588653TYVM
been thinking of drukhari women lately
Just checking in from elsewhere, has the new Ork book been uploaded anywhere yet? I wish to gawk at it.
>>98588667Yes it was uploaded and shared here
>>98588585pretending to be retarded is still retarded
>>98588678Would you be so kind as to link me to the specific post? I don't seem to see it in this thread and the mega's yet to be updated it seems
>>98588626Correct your cuck army is worse than mine in every wayGet owned
>>98588692He;s gonna tell you to check the thread archives bro...
>>98588704Forever means forever, knot-gobbler
>>98588682Yeah that's why everybody's calling you a retard for still crying about primaris terminators
>>98588728>everybodyIt's you and one another shitposter, and I'm not the anon you're replying to, most of us think you're the retard and didn't get involved in the "terminator are primaris" argument at all because you're clearly fucking baiting
sanguinary guard with wings coming soon
>>98588744>It's you and one another shitposterMeds>most of us think MEDS>didn't get involved in the "terminator are primaris" argument at all because you're clearly fucking baitingYeah it's bait when some faggot goes HURR DEY TERMINATORS AINT PRIMARIS LOOK THIS WARCOM ARTICLE SAYS SO and then spends the next thread throwing a fit when somebody else links a warcom article that clearly says the modern terminators are primaris too
If terminators are primaris then tau are Indian.
>>98588753That's not what happened and everyone has just been ignoring you except one guy who keeps taking the bait because you are a shitposting fag pretending to be retarded. Hope that helps, final (You).
>>98588761>That's not what happenedThat's literally what happenedI don't know why you think you can revise thread events that are less than 13 hours old lmao
Okay, Nids vs Eldar won. Take&Hold mirror. Deployment is finished. Everyone deployed on the line ready to go fight over objectives. Nids had a couple infiltrators. Neither side has any reserves. Right now would be a good time to take bets. My money is on the nids. They have a lot of monsters in this list and not much for the guardians and dire avengers to shoot at. Banshees charging will still blender stuff though, and the fire prisms will pull heavy duty, so we'll see.Turn 1 begins.
>>98588763Stop feeding the trolls thanks
>>98586670
>>98588769Whoops meant to reply to >>98588761
>>98588410Iron Take alert!
98588773No, definitely meant to reply to himKeep begging for attention
>Get put on an antidepressant>Find myself reorganizing my entire apartment>Started putting in-progress minis in view and unbuilt kits on a shelf>Motivation to actually finish what's in-progress skyrocketsWhat is this
>>98588787antidepressants are extremely dangerous. if you just want to be productive take some stimulants.
>>98588787They found what works for you and it is helping you recover.
>>98588798I already take a stimulant so I can maintain my salaried job.
>>98588787>>98588810Creepy psyop shilling brainfuck pills in my plastic toy soldiers gaming threadSSRI's literally provably give you braindamage
>>98588787da anti-depression drug... helps with depression??
>>98588714U got the wrong feller eldarcuck
>>98588787Turns out the 4chan misconception of what depression is isn't true and it actually is a disorder that actually does affect your life and getting treatment for it actually does ameliorate it
>>98586857Repostan my Steel Legion dude
>just now getting into death guard>like the look of the Dark Imperium plague marines>abhorrently expensive on ebayughhhhh I hope I can find a recaster or something
>>98588846it's a shame that GW never reprinted that lord of contagion. he's so much better than the weird ETB one
>>98588846deegee ceepee is one of the few 500+ pts onesthe new one not the old one with 30 poxwalkers see if you can get the vile vectorum battleforce from somewhere, i've seen stores still carry it
>>98588787>>98588810>>98588840Weird fucking samefag psyop
>>98588846when are they gonna re-release this guy
>>98588889Who knowsHe already looks cool as fuck though
>>98588889lol, lmao even said GW
>>98588889I could see them sending him to Legends unless they do a new model.
>>98588736literally me fr, armies for this feel?
>>98588798this, fuck psych meds, just smoke a little crack
>>98587692Just got the list, yup it's Crowe & 10 purifiers and I'm legit scared. With my saves being 5+, 20 shots of anti-infantry with -2 1dmg just kills everything. I just need to hit them hard with Aberrants or Metamorphs first.
>>98588910?
>>98588816>>98588878stay on your containment board
>>98588889he was on the same sprue as a plague dronethey'd either have to release a similar kit to dark imperium (lol) or make an entirely new sprue (lmao)
>>98588931What the fuck are you even talking about? This is my board, always been my board. You're bringing up this fucking creepy ass "take your antidepression meds it's totally good for you!" pharma shilling in a totally unrelated place, fucking GLOWING CREEP, get the fuck out of my toy soldiers general.
>>98588938>everybody is the same persontake your meds
>>98588916
>>98588938Take your meds
>>98588916Space Marines, especially based Christian coded ones like BTs, or Blood Angels who have the whole internal noble struggle theme. Dedicate yourself to purpose and defeat sins of the flesh as a warrior angel.>>98588943>>98588947>coordinated shilling for medsProving me right, bots
>>98588952>genuinely a schizolol
>>98588787>>98588840This back to back is so transparently propaganda it's hilarious
>>98588938>larping as a schizo11/10 take your meds
>>98588944>>98588952thanks guys, it can be hard to find a massive penis horny anime girl support group outside 4chan
>discord tranny raid
Remember to report and ignore bait posts, do not respond
>Make a genuine post>Get accused of being propagandaI legitimately was surprised at it restoring my motivation, I'm sorry for causing this
How do (you) paint power swords?>just a dot of blue on the wiring with a silver blade?>whole blade done up with an arcing pattern to show it's turned on?>orange?
>>98588974You might have been well-intentioned but the creeps replying to you and immediately using it as a chance to shill everyone to get on drugs are obviously fucking troons with agendas, frankly your improved motivation after getting on pills could be chalked up to the placebo effect.
>>98588974Dont be sorry, it's not your fault.
>>98588975snip it off and replace with orange transparent chainsaw
>>98588975im still trying to figure it out. ive seen a lot of success with people sponging on blues.
>>98588787lucky you. i wish they helped me
>>98588245I like how they piss off other chapters by writing down everything that happens.
>>98588974Don't pay any attention to the schizo larper, he's just throwing a fit his larp isn't being taken seriously
>>98588245Doesn't their paint scheme include a bunch of red and stuff on the shoulders and other bits?
>>98588975Metallic blue that fades into chrome.
>>98588965You could always try Admech to fix that useless flesh.
>>98588985Do we just use the word "larp" for everything now? How the fuck does it even make sense in this context, you sound retarded. Just say schizo.
>>98588993He's not schizo, he's (badly) pretending to be one
>>98588967>schizo persecution fantasies
>>98588974I hate the antichrist and his psych meds but if they help you out then I'm happy for you bro
>>98588996And you're not a woman, just (badly) pretending to be one, so maybe tone down the hypocrisy
>>98588993>Do we just use the word "larp" for everything now?Yes.
>>98588979I'd consider it if I were painting Votann>>98588981Starting blue is an interesting idea, I'll have to try it>>98588988How do you paint chrome? I know it's a lot harder to do than a general "shiny metal" look.
>you literally do sound like an abrasive shitposting tranny with every post you make
>>98588975same way i paint my necron bladesdifferent colored sections and then glaze to blend them together it looks like shit
>>98589018I should have been clearer, I just use a "chrome" paint Vallejo model air chrome is a wonderfully bright metallic and works great for highlighting leadbelcher and making things look sharp
>>98589023great post, thanks man
Does paint cover up that shiny residue citadel glue leaves behind?
>>98588816Hey, if you want to stay alone with your suicidal thoughts without any help be my guest.
>>98589055Yes, primer and paint will completely cover it
>>98589023>spoilerI've been blending gray, AK reddish grey and brown onto these same guardsmen for like 2 weeks now constantly chasing myself in circles with my shaky hands covering up mistakes so you can't be that much worse off than me. I haven't painted in nearly 2 decades, it's all new to me again but we make do.>>98589048That makes sense, sorry for the confusionI'm painting my first power sword right now as a kid I just built what I thought was cool so chainswords went on every unit that had the option and just wanted to know if anyone had any tricks/techniques, etc.
>>98588938Put the trip back on, + take your meds
>>98588983Any examples of this off the top of your head?
>>98588974It's just 4chan.
>>98589089I don't think there are any concrete examples. It's just a fact they had in a White Dwarf issue
>>98588714>ctrl+F through the last few threads>naught a mention of itJust left without a huge melty? Not complaining but wyld
>>98589142I don't think I've ever seen, read, or heard of a slav being funny.
>>98589152ok
>>98588787Good for you anon. Depression is no joke and serious depression can be deadly. I'm glad you're feeling better and keep cleaning working on kits. it'll only help.
>>98588976you're an idiot.
>>98589152>one of the oldest jokes in the universe>funnyI mean
>>98589142
>>98588930Actual garbage, online only, can't get him by himself.
>>98588557>>99% of S4 weapons remain at S4bolters make up 70% of s4 weapons and are already s5-6
Super fun turn. The Dire Avengers with Asurmen hopped out of their wave serpent for some short range shooting, and wiped the genestealers+broodlord. 40 shots, Asurmen's special rule, Guardian host member on an objective is no joke. The other units in range helped a little, and that was that. Our levi jeans will remain firmly in our possession for today.One of the fire prisms also just popped the screamer killer straight up. It had cover behind some ruins but it still just hit, wounded, boom 12 damage. Eldar may be in rough shape but the fire prism still does heavy lifting, so glad I got 2.Scored 2 for primary, 2 for Display of Might, and holding on to Engage on All Fronts, for 14 points. Heading into Nids turn 1. Exciting!
>>98589233This looks like fun
>>98589232>boltersBolt Rifles are s5 or s6Boltguns are still s4Intercessors have Bolt RiflesSisters of Battle have Boltguns
do the votann have anything going besides drg memesi somewhat like them after playing mechanicus 2 an lgs has their old combat patrol and i'm tempted to dip my toesies in themi'll read the high kahl's oath and see how i feel after the fact there's something incomplete to them that i can't quite put my finger on but i suspect is simply the lack of decades of context, culture and material that the other factions have
>>98589233I laugh every time I see the dinosaur wave serpents. I love it
>>98589252>incompleteThere are only 22 items in the Votann roster, that's why.>lack of decades of context, culture and materialThey feel very much like a product of their creation era, where the rest feel like a product of theirs. The Tau feel very 2000s, the Votann feel very "current day" and it leaves them stunted. If they had leaned back into the original squats a bit more (even just for the land trains), not given them this cassette futurist design (instead going Soviet futurist or even 60s NASA) and actually supporting the roster beyond its introduction, they'd feel more like a real faction.They need more models, and their design language needs to pick a lane.
>>98589187Amazing, almost none of this is finished.
>>98589252They just don't have enough connecting them to the setting and the other factions within it. Not history, no fun rivalries, no interesting stories about a funny interaction with a named subfaction, and no real characters with any character. They feel like a transplanted faction dropped suddenly into the setting like a scab and they didn't make any effort beyond "men of stone" and "demiurge" to disguise that this is exactly what they are.
>>98589271Dark Eldar, Necrons, and Tau all feel very "2000 AD" in slightly different ways. Definitely a product of the time they were written in.
>>98589233> Asurmen + full brick of AvengersI kneel.
>>98589295I just specifically mentioned Tau because they were the first off of my headOrks feel extremely 80sSoB feel extremely 90sand so onVotann just feel too clean and sanitized and they aren't taking themselves seriously (both signs of their era) and thus don't fit into the rest of the world's dynamics, even without the lack of written integration.
>>98589252>there's something incomplete to them that i can't quite put my finger oVotann are just half assed, trying to do too many things at once, and still less than the sum of their parts:>squats>space marines>nasapunk>adMech but not religious>pagan norsemen>lotr greedy miner dwarves>evil capitalists but DEI>danger hair bs>ZardozAnd their names and cathphrases suck. They're stillborn and i bet we'll see them squatted again o they'll get a nuDeldar/nuCron makeover
>>98589328Votann definitely need to be a lot more gritty. GW should give them a second battleline unit that looks a lot more utilitarian and chunky.They can link it back to the existing design language so it doesn't look out of place with the characters, and lorewise they can say the Votann PCs are having difficulty producing armour so they had to move back to earlier armour patterns
Im dieting down to about 45lbs so I can be a necron for halloweenWbu guys?
>>98589233Based gaem playa
>>98589365not dieting or showering so I can fit into my great unclean one costume
>>98589338>link it back to the existing design languageWhich one? They have like 6 that don't work togetherThis is another problem, there's too many different things going on and nothing works to tie them together. You could even call this a "sign of their era" with too many executive designers in the decision-making process wanting Votann to be 30 different things.
>>98589252>do the votann have anything going besides drg memesMe personally, i like that they don't have the silly stereotypes of Dwarves with the whole grudges and stubborness. There's some of that but it's on the same flavor as other things, the more important thing to me about Votann is how they're a remnant of DAoT's lifestyle of living among machines, that lore blurb of Ironkin downloading viruses to their system to get drunk like their fellow kin is some good soul that it makes me want to see more out of them.My biggest gripe with votann might be the gay nordic runic shit on some models, they should've lean completely on the moonlanding aesthetic, with more land fortresses or weapon platforms or hell, bring back stuff from their squat days like the trikes and trains.
im starting to fall in love with the lore and want to ask a bunch of questions about where to begin/dos/donts of making the models but i think ill wait until the next thread to ask since this one’s already autosaged and almost full
>>98589375buy one box of 3 or5 or 10 dudes that looks the coolest, no discount bundles or starter sets. no looking at what's good in game, or even has interesting lore. 100% aesthetics.
>>98589375>where to beginThe first 4 books like horus rising and all thatOr just your aesthetically favorite faction’s codexesWherever really man just have fun with it
>>98589397>booksfuck no
>>98589375Yeah, that fits.
>>98589375>>98589397Oh where to begin with modeling mbYeah like other anon said just get a small box with a few dudes you think are cool and just go for itTheres plenty of youtube tutorialsGood primer, thin your paint all that basic shitIf you fuck up you can always strip and try againIts a learning process
>>98589397>>98589391okay so one question i have is am i allowed to mix and match models between sets? like can i use horus heresy models with regular 40k models during a game or is that a no-no
Are the Arbites squads decent in SoB? Looking at starting Sisters as my next army and the Arbites guys seem cool, so I'm wondering if it's a terrible idea to throw in a squad of them.
>>98589406The only things that matter for super serious official games is base sizes and using GW minis.
>>98589406At tournaments? No unless they're one of a few that are legal (Custodes have a bunch)In general? Yea, it's called proxying, just ask your opponent, stick to base sizes and you're fine.Don't try to mix armies though, that won't go well because there are explicit rules about what units can go where.>>98589411SoB are chock full of barely useful infantry, Arbites would just be more of the same that could instead be more Arco-Flagellants or Sacresancts. I wouldn't use Arbites with Sisters, at least with how I play Sisters.
>>98589404Well yeah but not just that like, i dont really understand the differences between space marine types in terms of painting them (white scar, black templars etc) can i just paint them and call them whatever i want or do you need to kind of keep in mind the lore behind each type and paint them accordingly
>>98589424>>98589419okay thanks that was a major question that i hadSo the starter sets are no good then?
>>98589425>SM ChaptersYou either pick one that already exist and follow its lore and aesthetics, or you can make your own.It's a big galaxy.But don't buy marines designed for one subfactoin and play them as another without changes.
>>98589425Marines are marines. Paint /yourdudes/ how you want and come up with a cringey name for them like everyone else does.
>>98589424>more Arco-FlagellantsOh damn, that's the one unit I'm not even considering taking.
>>98589437Most people do not do that, they just paint them like one of the classic SM chapters
>>98589436>>98589437> But don't buy marines designed for one subfactoin and play them as another without changesRight, that makes sense i was mainly thinking of like custom color schemes but yeah that makes sense>oh these guys that are talon models are actually templars because uhhh i said so
>>98587670tall dark brooding socially/economically/politically powerful and tragic man whom girls say "i can fix him" like a broken puppy makes sense. if the gender was reversed i would be the same as well. i am neither thati am stupid and retarded and short and poorthat's life i guess>>98587682i already am a wizard anon. it is nothing to be proud of. go into dating now, or you'll become like me, who considers blowing off my head smooth off everyday.
>>98589338They had gold and just kind of abandoned it.
>>98589425Some chapters have unique rulesets and unique models, ie Guilliman for Ultramarines. He wouldn't be wearing White Scar armor, he'd be wearing Ultramarine armor, so he'd thematically only fit into a list with Ultramarines.Buy models that are legal in your army list.>>98589434Some starter sets are good, some aren'tWhat army are you looking at to start? Which starter set?>>98589440They are VERY good for what they give140 points for 10 of themFeel No Pain 5 on a melee unit60 attacks per attack roll (70 with an attached Ministorum Priest) of s5ap0 with Sustained Hits 1Give a miracle die when they die to power up your other unitsThey are phenomenal for the cost, despite being ugly as sin and not fitting the mental image that a lot of people want with their SoB armies.You either run them up the field eating enemy attacks for you, or you run them up the field in a Rhino to nuke an enemy unit with 70 dice.
>>98589436>But don't buy marines designed for one subfactoin and play them as another without changes.This really isn't an issue even in tournaments. The only rule is base size and your opponent has to be able to tell the difference once you've talked them through what datasheet you're using.I've got Templars, Blood Angels and Dark Angels models in my army. It's not a problem.>>98589448Casuals, all.
>>98589434>So the starter sets are no good then?Not when finding out how to build, paint, and if you like it. Start small and be surprised how long it takes. Don't overwhelm yourself with mountains of plastic immediately getting a "good deal".
>>98589471>despite being ugly as sin and not fitting the mental image that a lot of people want with their SoB armies.Yeah, that's why I'm not considering them. I'm probably going to proxy units or parts for this army so if I come across a good flagellant equivalent I might grab some if they're THAT good.
>>98589483>>98589471I was thinking of this one and maybe a couple supplemental doodads that pique my fancy as it comes with paints and *doesnt* have orks or any other faction as i have literally 0 interest in the other factions beyond the imperium (yet)in the 40k website the best place to buy figures or what? Where do you guys get yours from?
>>98589499>in the 40k website the best place to buy figures or what?No. Most online retailers will offer meaningful discounts over GW prices in their region. But it depends where you are. In the UK 15-20% off is pretty standard.
>>98589499never, EVER directly buy from GW unless it's an online only piece. There are 3rd party retailers all around the world giving you a hefty discount.
>>98589499If you're starting from nothing, it's decent, at least if you want the colors and the units. >in the 40k website the best place to buy figures or what? Where do you guys get yours from?Worst possible option. Your FLGS is almost certainly better. There's online retailers that will have a decent discount.
>>98589503>>98589511Okay i have a couple card/hobby shops in town so that would probably be the best place to get new stuff unless its specifically something i want they dont have then
>>98589516>>98589511>>98589503What’s you guys favorite units to play with?
>>98589520I'm just getting back into the game, and have not managed to table it yet, but I loved my 'fex back in the day.
>>98589485The SoB army gimmick is:>send units into fight>some die, give you miracle dice>miracle dice buff the rest of your army to win harderSo you have to intentionally bring sacrificial units, Flagellants, Mortifiers/Penitent Engines, Repentia are specifically for it.Flagellants are the "eat bullets" unitMortifiers are the same as Flagellants, but bigger (so less models but far tankier) and with gunsPEngines are also the same as Flagellants, but full-in on rushing downfield with flamers or meleeRepentia are glass cannons, they do massive damage in melee but crumble the moment they get hit backAll 4 of these do good work on softening up your enemy and then giving you miracle dice to buff your "actual" units (namely, Morvenn Vahl) to finish the job, so I'd heavily consider bringing or having them.If you don't intentionally bring SOME sacrificial units to do this, you're effectively playing with half an army rule.>>98589499If you're in the US, buy from a third party unless you can't find it anywhere but GW. I suggest CMOgames if you live in the midwest, phenomenal people and they give free shipping on any order over $50 (which is 1 model for 40k anymore).If you're in the UK, buy from a third party. I'm American so I can't give you any suggestions.Third party vendors are leagues better for saving you money. 15-20% discounts vs. GW is the standard.I would personally suggest a combat patrol instead of that box. The current Combat Patrol offerings for marines are Dark Angels, Black Templars, or Blood Angels. Don't get the Space Wolves one, or at least don't mention you have any here.
>>98589520I love my incubi and will play them every chance that I get regardless of Detachment or if they're even good.
>>98589448>most people don’t try to exercise real creativity by making their own dudesI’m not comfortable about this. Like my stuff is probably just a recolor like a sonic oc but is it really that alone that puts it above and beyond the normies?
my lgs is two tables with a bunch of mdf terrain at the side, sells army painter paint, drinks and snacks only with £5 to play
>>98589526I live in midwest USshockingly in my town theres like 4 or 5 shops that sell warhammer figurines, its where i first heard about warhammer back when i played MTG before it turned completely plebbit >>98589527>>98589523So really just go based on vibes for the figures to get then? i assume strategy trumps all when actually playing the game considering the emphasis you guys put on looks alone above trying to get the absolute best spec guys >>98589537brutal one tcg store here in town has like 20 huge tables
What a travesty of a turn. The nids didn't remove a single model in their shooting phase, and then only one unit made a charge roll. They racked up 11 wounds on the wraithknight in the shooting phase but then proceeded to fail every single charge. The only unit that got into close combat was the Leapers in the way back corner. Everyone from the deployment zone failed. The leapers are tearing up some guardians in the eldar expansion objective but this was still a terrible turn.The exocrine makes allies reroll ones but a one got rerolled into a another one so many times. So many 1's and 2's this turn, it was incredible. Way below expected averages. Sometimes the dice just have it out for you.We might be eating fried nid for dinner tonight.
>>98589526Repentia and PE are definitely on the list. It was just the flagellants I was avoiding. Are the tanks usable?
>>98589548Vibes is best. The rules change so often that if you buy a meta unit it'll probably be shit by the time you have it finished and ready to go. Everything has it's day in the sun and nothing is allowed to be too strong for too long (in theory).
>>98589526>>98589523>>98589516>>98589511>>98589503So what’s you guys take on used figures? Looking around at shop reviews multiple stores here in town sell used warhammer figurines
Hello anons, I need to hack the arm off of this model and replace it with the banner; any advice as I havent cut off models before
>>98589499https://elementgames.co.uk/wargames-and-miniatures-by-manufacturer/games-workshop/warhammer-40k/warhammer-40000-getting-started-with-space-marines
>>98589526>I would personally suggest a combat patrol instead of that box.That is the new marine combat patrol. Also a combat patrol is too much stuff for a brand new person unless they love everything in the box.
>>98589568If you're willing to strip paint, well worth it.>>98589548>So really just go based on vibes for the figures to get then?For your first models, I'd say absolutely. If you're playing regularly strength becomes more important, but should never trump vibes.
>>98589548>i assume strategy trumps all when actually playing the game considering the emphasis you guys put on looks alone above trying to get the absolute best spec guysNot really. There are definitely units that get dumpstered by rules changes. The thing about 40k that's different compared to something like a CCG though, is that there's a higher entry floor in terms of commitment from a player - you don't just open a few packs or pick out some good cards from a binder to make a deck, you have to take time and put the models together, even (gasp) paint them. So it's important that you should enjoy that part of the game, enjoy looking at the models that are in your army, enjoy putting them together and painting them. An often repeated phrase here is, "Rules are temporary, models are forever." At the end of the day, even if your favorite model has shitty rules, you still have a cool model.Pic related, a model which has been abhorrently shit for like 9 years, I bought it because I thought it's one of the coolest kits GW has ever made, and as of next week it will actually be decent in the rules, if not competitive. And then maybe in a year or two it won't be. I'll still have a cool model.
>>98589568I’m downMy LGS sells pre-painted armies for only slightly more than the cost of the original armyIm talking like 10-20$ moreI grab them sometimes if theyre painted reasonably well
>>98589534In terms of space marines, "making your own dudes" is just a sonic oc recolor. There isn't really much more to it than that, at least as a starting point. You can homebrew lore and characters (that you'd be proxying) later.>>98589537My LGS is>2 counters (one for video games and tchotchkes, one for snacks and buying the rest of the inventory)>6 tables (4 for MtG, 2 for D&D, you have to schedule time to use them unless they're hosting an event)>90% of the inventory is D&D, Pathfinder, board games or card games>they have GW-supplied shelves, but no models (they have a fully-stocked Citadel paints rack though)Needless to say I buy my shit online>>98589548Then check those shops, most also do a 15% discount. If not, shop online like I said.Buy the units you think look cool, but at least do so inside of a game-legal army roster to start with.>>98589563>usableYes, but nowhere near optimal. Castigator has aggressively underpowered main gun options, but gives an AP boost to all subsequent attacks, worth it to bring at least one. Exorcist is just "okay." Rhino is a Rhino.Immolator is very good however, definitely worth it as a transport for Sacresancts with a Hospitaller to hold down objectives.Paragon Warsuits are a hard requirement in the current SoB roster because they're the only bodyguard unit for Morvenn Vahl.
>>98589548Sorry, I thought you were asking for vibes. If you want more tactical unit choices, then there are certain roles that you want to be able to fill in every list like a back objective holder, a screening unit, a mobile action monkey, a chaff screen or scouts orinfiltrators to eat early aggression, a front line counter-charger or heroic intervention threat to punish overextension, an uppy-downy or deep strike threat to force the opponent to keep their screens tight, a battleline unit with high OC (2+) just to threaten primary control, an anti-tank unit to deal with high-T high-Sv hulls and monsters, some ranged fire support to soften exposed targets in the midfield, and some bruisers able to go and pick up heavy stuff like Terminators and flip point control.
>>98589568Great if you can get a good deal for something that's not broken or assembled badly. Paint can usually be stripped with many cheap household cleaning products. Most people seem to think their garbage is worth full RRP these days though.
>>98588990Me sad no 7even
Which should I read first, Tomb World or Twice Dead King?
>>98589576Good luck
>>98589568I’ve bought tons of used trash off eBay and stripped them down, it’s perfectly fine
>>98589576sawzall should do the trick
>>98589568>used figuresWorth it if they're not butchered. Do not buy ones that are badly assembled. Badly painted is a 50/50 depending on what kind of paint was used; some come off easy, others don't.>>98589578Fair enough, I guess I took it from my perspective too much of knowing a bit of what things are.I still think that someone looking to start an army would be better served buying a "listed as a combat patrol" combat patrol, namely because of the Land Speeder. It's not really supported on its own, the only place to get one is in that specific kit, so if you decide you like it you'd have to buy another combat patrol to get another. Or buy third-party or secondhand, I guess.
>>98589587>Paragon Warsuits are a hard requirement in the current SoB roster because they're the only bodyguard unit for Morvenn Vahl.I'm mostly building for a contained environment where the heaviest thing (so far) is light guard vehicles, so she's not mandatory.
>>98589597>twice dead kingi personally loved this onevague posting a spoiler but the mc is forced to contend that the way he remembers things and the way they happened are separate, often opposite
>>98589616Start an army project with a combat patrol, sure. But start the hobby with a single unit of the coolest models you can see on the shelves.Land speeders will be available all edition, and aren't even good.
Are the video games a good way to get a better feel of the way troops interact with each other/lore? What would you recommend? Isnt there a total war warhammer game?>wouldve (youd) the other people responding about used models but had to reformat due to mass reply blocking and have to split the post in 2 (grr)>>98589577Yeah even after conversion thats way cheaper than the official website >>98589583Im really not willing unless its something awesome that i just have to have desu >>98589585Holy shit that model is awesome, it almost looks like something youd see from fallout, like a slap dash build type of thing I love models, and im falling in love with the lore and i (used) to love painting , seems like a perfect thing for me to get into and be able to go and be around other people >>98589586Is it weird to just buy a well painted used figure? Or is it a given that you’re gonna strip and do it yourself
>>98589640oh I thought you were british never mind
>>98589587>game legal armyIs there a resource online to look at to verify that im within limits? Or is it simply the point limit think to consider Like a very old model, would that be completely outmoded? Are there any banned models?>>98589589Interesting, so its pretty considerate of certain combat roles then and the ideal army is like a perfect blend or as good as you can reasonably do under the point total I’ll direct your attention to my top question of this post >>98589640
Is the starter set unironically a better buy value-wise than Armaggedon?
>>98589597Twice Dead King is great.Tomb World is more... generic. Entertaining but not great.
>>98589604>>98589593>>98589587See >>98589640
>>98589650>i want the terrain yes>i want models no, the extra armageddon models are likely gonna become online only sets like the terrors of the hive and necrons royal court before them
>>98589338They need to just lean more into all Votann armor being modular pieces built on top of the basic worksuit. We have 5+ Hernkyn wearing the Hearthkyn armor with waistplate and shoulderpads removed, we should get a 3+ save unit that has the extra leg armor the Kahl has.Also rework weapons to allow more space for decal and freehand work instead of the random scrollwork they've been doing.
anyone got any ideas for cool uses for sprue?
>>98589646The limits are:All from the one faction2 of at 1k points, 3 of at 2k points (standard size)Some old units are in Legends and may not be usable at tounaments.Wahapedia has unit stats and costs.
So when are they updating the Ork Legends?
>>98589650If you want terrain yes.Otherwise, no
>>98589670>wahapedia youre an angel thank you been looking for something like this that wasnt hosted by fandom
>>98589668Necromunda specific but cut sprues into long bars and Ls and use them as structural reinforcement for plasticard buildings and walkways.
>>98589625>light guard vehiclesMy other main army is guard, so this is my specialtyThe weakest guard vehicles are t7 (Centaur and Scout Sentinel), so she's still a very welcome addition. A bit overkill at 1k points, but not unwarranted either due to the roster's limitations.SoB have very few ranged anti-vehicle options; she is one of them, as are the paragon suits. Guard excels at fighting at range, so you need to either beat them at their own game or rush them down.If they're mostly infantry, Arco-Flagellants and Penitent Engines would be the absolute PERFECT additions to your roster with a Castigator (or 3 if it's a 2k point game) as ranged anti-vehicle support.>>98589637Fair enough on all pointsI just singled out the LS because it's one of the features of that specific box, meaning it specifically is being orphaned if he then decided to invest further into an army from there, where most of the other combat patrols don't have that problem. Maybe the guard one is like that too, it's half Attillans.
I know we're early into the edition, but how's Chaos looking? Wanted to do some Iron Warriors, and wanted advice on what stinker units to avoid.
>>98589674The codex already leaked, what more could you want?
>>98589646>Is there a resource online to look at to verify that im within limits?NewRecruit or install War Organ
>>98589640Hell no lol I buy them painted and use themPainting takes a longass time man sometimes its nice to just be able to play a nice looking army right off the rip
bets on christmas battleforces?
Armaggedon Orks and Nobz seem pretty easy to kitbash regarding arms and heads with the exception of a few pieces where arm is stuck to chest piece, but a hobby knife can fix that. So upper body poses are a non issue.
>>98589698marines, tau, custodes, iron hands, necrons
>>98589646The total warhammer 40k game isn't out for like another year and won't have many factions playable at launch anyways.The only videogame that replicates the playstyle of 40k accurately is tabletop simulator, but that's by literally just playing the tabletop game with digital models on a digital board. I won't go into detail how to get started with that here though because there are multiple steam groups and discords already dedicated to it you can easily find. It is a decent way to trial different units (and armies) before you buy though.I will say that I am of the opinion that the tabletop game itself is not so tactically satisfying to be worth playing just for the gameplay without your personal attachment to seeing your own built and painted army being fielded on the board. You lose a lot of the fun of the experience you get playing with a flat screen and premade assets. Rolling dice is just fun, too.
I'm so sad the armageddon boxes aren't being sold for a discount any more, I didn't have money a week ago when I saw someone unloading a bunch on ebay for £140 and also halves of each
>>98589682interdasting
>>98589698Marines and Orks are a given.The other 4 will be CSM, Votann, Tau, and Tyranids
>>98589640>video games>better feel of the way troops interact with each otherNo, full stop. They're either power fantasy wank or overly gamified in a way that isn't emblematic of the tabletop. They're often decent games and can explain the setting somewhat, but not good to explain the tabletop.>Total War Warhammer gameThere are 3, but they're for Warhammer Fantasy, not 40k. The 40k one isn't out yet.Check US online shops after you check your local stores. CMOgames like I said earlier is my personal suggestion for an online retailer; others are available of course, I just don't like them as much. There's a list on one of the 40k subreddits that is actually useful for this purpose. It's the only time I'd say to go check there.>that you're gonna strip and do it yourselfIf you like the paintjob, leave it. They're your models, do what you want with them.>>98589646>resource onlineYou can view rosters on any roster builder programs or sites. Newrecruit is in the OP of this thread and doesn't require a login. It'll show you what can go into where as well as point values.>very old modelStill playable. A Sister of Battle from 1997 is still usable as a Sister of Battle. Any further answer is a bit more "in depth" than you're ready for at this stage of "the hobby.">banned modelsGenerally no, it's more "does this model have a data card and rules for it" if you're not proxying something else with it.
>>98589701necrons just got one >>98589718so did csm and nids
GW MAKE HOTSHOT LASGUNS AP-3
>>98589685The vehicles I'm getting are a Hydra and a hellhound. They're going in a GSC list so most of the rest of the list is infantry. The other list that has more than one vehicle is Orks with a dakkarig and a squigbuggy. >SoB have very few ranged anti-vehicle options; she is one of them, as are the paragon suitsYeah, T10 on the hellhound is a difficult threshold for them. Most options seem to be S9. I'll definitely get some PEs based on your advice.
>>98589722>necrons just got onethey have old stock to shift
>>98589699Yeah, since I'm building for green tide I'll get a 2nd Armaggedon Ork half and kitbash it with some new non-monopose boyz & nobz, kitbash the warboss head, pole and weapons with leftovers from a warboss kit. Wartrakk, I'll swap heads and weapons and add some details to the second one. Nob bits can also fit on other characters. Idk what to do with Weirdboy tho.
>>98589698I'm going to go with the least likely answer possible and say: Space Wolves, Thousand Sons, Chaos Knights, Genestealer Cults, Dark Eldar, and Grey Knights
i wonder how common those new fuckass botlers are going to be because it seems like they're going to make my mortifiers and penitent engines even more fragile than before
>>98589698Orks, Marines, Dark Eldar, Thousand Sons, SoB
>>98589458this just looks like an imperial dwarf and not really it's own thing
>>98589597Twice Dead King is really good (for BL) and it made me really appreciate the newcrons. It's properly grim dark for the setting but it also has it's bright spots and humor. It's also great to see the Imperium fom the PoV as an Xenos; rightfully portrayed as the unhinged and terrifying faction they actually are.
Since Orks are very likely for a Christmas battleforce what do you predict they'll do?Will they just toss in some basic stuff with the new kits meant for new ork players expanding Armaggedon (ala 20 boys, 10 nobs, 2 trukks, warboss + something else) or throw old shit in?
>>98589762uhhh, yeah. that’s what squats are. side note, love me gambesons.
>>98589750Why do people play orks? They seem so generic to me, like basic Warcraft iii orcs or something Am i missing something here? Now that i think about it the entire setting feels like a blend of OG Warcraft with starcraft>>98589703I totally understand what youre saying, i was mainly referring to the idea of a game that replicates the feel more than anything but yeah having literally your babies on a table is absolutely the core experience >>98589721Brother you are an absolute gem of an anon i cannot thank you enough >cmogames I think im gonna try patronizing one of my locals before buying from them but I added the site to a notepad for future use, thank you >warhammer games are shit Really? I always heard they were fun, is the newest total war warhammer game legit in your eyes? Everyone is jizzing over it
>>98589770I really don't think they'll do another bundle of ork stuff when they already have so much new stock filling up shelf space.
>>98589770I don't think we're getting the Nob kit until next year, and even if we get it earlier it will be exclusive to a killteam set for the rest of the year, so there's no way they show up in a BF box (unless it's the old Nobs to try and unload stock).
>>98589779>Now that i think about it the entire setting feels like a blend of OG Warcraft with starcraftYou've got it backwards. Those two settings came after both Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40k.
>>98589772Feel like every meeting they have goes like this https://youtu.be/ZDm6j92DshA?si=OFYIT6TnlnXTEnMd
>>98589779>like basic Warcraft iii orcs or something40K Orks proceeded Warcraft Orks.They're also not noble savages and whiny cunts. Orks are the tribe in 40K who actually enjoy the setting. In the the grim darkness of the far future there is only war and Orks love war.
>>98589758Didn't thousand sons get 2 battleforces really close to each other? the one with the MVB and another with the new robots
>>98589770>20 boys, 10 nobs, 2 trukks, warboss + something else that’s way too good a deal for GW if you’re implying all that will be in one box. aside from that, GW is pretty good with shoving the new hotness onto you. pic related was released about a year after the cadian refresh when they could have easily just filled it with the outdated models or leman russes.
>>98589794>>98589786wait so Warcraft and StarCraft are knockoffs of warhammer?
>>98589744>Hydra>HellhoundBoth of these will eat you for lunch if you don't play around them; Hydra has insane range (72") that chews through infantry and light vehicles, Hellhound chews through infantry. Your army is close range and made mostly of infantry (with the rest made of light vehicles), which makes this predicament another point for Paragon Warsuits and Castigators, or an Exorcist if you get lucky on movement and terrain to keep it out of the line of fire.I'd consider getting the PEngines and 2 Castigators before getting Vahl and Paragons for what you've described though. The Castigator Battle Cannon is exactly s10.Your only stronger options are melee weapons (riskier), or one-shot hunter killer missiles (not reliable).>>98589779>blend of OG Warcraft with Starcraft40k came out of the 1980s with Rogue Trader, it predates both by about a decade. If anything, it's the other way around. Even then, it's a sci-fi spinoff of Warhammer Fantasy that outgrew its parent.>warhammer games are shitThey're not bad games, they're bad as a medium to demonstrate the tabletop game. Good for setting info and lore, bad for unit dynamics beyond "marines are more elite than guardsmen" or "what psykers and ogryns are."Some of my favorite games of the past 5 years were Warhammer branded (Rogue Trader and Boltgun namely), but none of them show you how the tabletop game works.
>>98589809Yes, when GW wouldn't give them the licence.
>>98589809Don't know if you are meme-ing or not, but the original intention for the first Warcraft RTS game was to get the Warhammer rights but they failed to do so.
>>98589809Yes. There's an urban legend that Warcraft started being developed with the aim of pitching it to GW as a licensed Warhammer Fantasy game before GW denied it, then Blizzard just went ahead and finished the game as Not-Warhammer anyways. Story gets confused a lot with Starcraft instead, which makes no sense since they'd already established their own knock-off successful IP so there'd have been no reason to go back and ask GW to let them license 40k instead of just doing a knock-off again.
>>98589818>>98589816>>98589825not even memeing but mind=blown
>>98589812——>>>98589827sorry ive been drinking
>>98589770a non snagga shit equivalent to pic would be nice. something like>warboss >mek>unit of boyz>warbikers>trukk
I've been out of the loop recently. Where's all of this nonsense theorycrafting about Dorn coming back as a Black Templar coming from?
>>98589842Why would GW put a Guard tank into the BT roster?
>>98589845Guard? Raven Guard?
>>98589850Raven? You're telling me they're giving the Stormraven to Guard? That's why they squatted it?
I love that the Emperor was fine with the SW having powerful psykers, they truly were his favorite sons.
>>98589855Do you mean Death Guard?
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>>98589865Yea, the Death Korps of Krieg are a Guard regiment
>>98589812>PEngines and 2 CastigatorsI'm trying to have unit variety, so 2 castigators seems like a lot. However SoB are going to be a while until I finish them so I'll see how things play out with the other armies.
>>98589887I've played 1k points SoB only into Marines, and it didn't go well with less than 2 so that's why I say it.If you're not fighting SM (you're not), you can probably get away with 1.
>>98588549why not strip, fill the gaps with sprueglue and repaint it?You can also gapfill with PVA and then paint on it when it's dried
>>98589899>If you're not fighting SM (you're not)Uh... that's the fourth faction. Sounds like 2 Castigators are a must
>>98589925Marines are very much "not fun" for Sisters to fight right nowHopefully the codex fixes that, but until then we have to make do with skew lists and gambling.
>>98589333>>98589458>>98589338I too want Imperium Lite. I also believe in the Imperiialziation of all existence, not just chaos.
i get unhappy when a faction in 40k isn't the most boring and dull imperium rip off design and i want if there's a whole new faction with more stcs and shit then it shouldn't look like van saar or anything but more imperium and not even marines but ig
>>98589576If you used superglue just throw it in the freezer for a bit and then force it off by hand. Either way it should be easy enough to separate unless you glued the fuck out of it.
>>98589688My megatrakk scrapjets and lootas back in the codex where they belong.
>>98589718As a Votann player, the LoV have been overrepresented with battleforce boxes for awhile. Would rather Aeldari get the spot so I have something to buy my brother for Christmas.
