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A Miserable Pile Edition

Previous: >>98585117

>News
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Current Banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Bracket Information
https://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.png
https://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png

>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Card Search
https://scryfall.com

>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com

>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Proxy Guide
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: Do you use a 'secret commander'? How does it go?
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>>98591844
I run a deck that finds and exiles squee, misthollow griffin, and eternal scourge then casts them over and over to kill people.
It's a solid deck with a dumb premise. The alt wincon is shit like labman
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>Zeta set is $20 for 7 cards
Bruh.
>Chrome Mox has a less than 2% chance PER PACK
BRUH
>the alt treatments are exponentially rarer
BRUH
R
U
H
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>>98591844
It's not really a secret that a Mardu Aristocrats Commander has a couple of hidden sac loops with other key cards in the deck.
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>>98591844
Having a secret commander in a singleton format with 100 cards seems like something not worth planning around. Fine as an emergency backup plan, but unreliable.
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>98591958
Tutors exist (in some brackets anyway)
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>>98591958
Secret commander happens most often when you have a card you want to build around but you need access to colors they don't have for the best synergies and combos, so you pick a different commander as the header that can still kind of work with your jank pile until you can fish out the real star.
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>>98591979
>(in some brackets anyway)
this has been debunked
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>>98591905
Yes. WoTC has been trying to sell you half a pack for 4x the price for three decades. They finally figured out how to do it(Secret lair)
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>>98591905
So you're saying when I order 12 packs I have a roughly 1/5 chance of getting a Chrome Mox? I like those odds.
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>>98591979
I believe that tutors don't suit the format.
>>98591983
Yeah, I guess lots of them don't hold up in a modern or vintage format, so the slower pace of commander becomes the only way they can be played.
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If I'm running a deck that has red in it (e.g. mono or boros), is it worth throwing in pyroblast and red elemental blast? Because I figure I'm invariably going to be against someone/thing that has blue in it, and being able to either nuke a counterspell or a commander seems worthwhile.
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>>98592080
>hating on tutors
Say that to my wife's face and see what happens.
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>>98592084
only if you're a combo deck
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Any creature should be eligible as commander, legendary or not
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>>98591905
my friends are still going to buy it lol
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>>98592096
thank you for supporting the game despite wotc being a shitty steward
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>>98592090
I'm voltron and want to stop people from bullying my commander.
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>>98592084
As commanders become more slopified the more work a single color fuck becomes viable, since it means REB will hit more targets
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>>98592084
I prefer either Copy/Redirects as my red anti-counter spell cards, with Untimely Malfunction being a standout for also having further versatility.

I generally HATE having spells that are a dead draw unless I'm up against a certain type of opponent. Even most of my removal tries to be broad and hit a few types and just generally try to be versatile.
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>>98592184
But if someone counters my commander, changing the target won't work unless there's some other spell on the stack already.
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>>98592184
This card is so fucking good I need to stock up on copies before it inevitably creeps up but man I fucking hate the art and flavor. Hopefully they identify this problem and reprint the effect on a new name (and not on a UB set). Actually I bet they'll reprint it in Star Trek fuck my life.
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>>98592190
You redirect the spell to Untimely Malfunction, it's fucked up but that's how they work.
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>>98592193
So it resolves, the stack moves to the counterspell, and since it doesn't have a target any more, it fizzles out?
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>>98592206
yes
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>>98592206
yeah
though note that this won't work if they use a counterspell that specifies targeting a creature. (no blue fags run those)
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>>98592191
It's definitely one of the cards I slap my own art over.
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>>98592210
>>98592212
Nice, I have a pretty expensive commander, and people love countering him. I have a few redirect spells in the deck, but didn't think it could work like this.
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>>98592224
don't forget this card to protect your 7 power commander from spot removal
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>>98592234
I fucking love this card
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>>98592084
Return the favor
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Will of Hilario
4BR
INSTANT
As long as an opponent has 7 or more cards in hand, this spell has split second.

This spell costs 4BR less if a triggered ability of a permanent an opponent controls created a token or drew it’s controlled a card.

Exile all permanents that contain the text ‘draw’ or ‘token’. Increase the commander tax of all commanders removed this way by an additional 4
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>>98592084
The odds of playing against someone not playing blue in this format is very low
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>>98591905
Honestly idk why THIS is the Jewery that has Reddit up in arms. Collector packs are like $50 MSRP and even higher retail. Yet some optional alt-art slop for $20 has everyone shitting their pants?
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>>98592471
Did you forget the 300 dollar 30th packs that were nothing but illegal in all format cards?
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>>98592505
i didn't forget; i'm reminded every day that hasbro is a shit company that relies on mtg to carry it
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>>98592461
yeah honestly a pod with no blue seems well worth a dead card (which if you run Pyro it might not even be dead if you care about spells cast or targetting)
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>>98592224
Consider
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idk if its my local meta but i swear i hardly see boardwipes anymore and everyones running some sort of giga-lifelink source
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>>98592538
Oh, I didn't think of Cavern of Souls and Hexing Squelcher, nice find. Especially nice because it even gives me a way to cast my big finisher spells unopposed.
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>>98592505
I saw them once, realized I'm not stupid enough to buy them, then never thought about them again. It's really not hard.
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>>98592658
The people who managed to buy them at MSRP within ten minutes of it dropping before they were all sold out were not stupid, they could flip those packs for 2x-4x what they paid for them immediately.
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>>98592674
They cloud flip them to stupid people.
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>>98592684
Well, yeah.
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Anyone have some interesting /not expected cards to add to a Chief Of The Wilds deck? First tribal deck ive built and i have a bunch of wolf's that I never had a home for.
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>>98592737
Surely you have a realmwalker in there
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>>98592770
Most Defentally making it in. I plan on using changling's to pick up a bit of the slack as far as wolfs go
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>>98592524
hasbro needs to take the reigns and straighten out groomers of the coast. move them to New England (slightly less gay than Seattle metro area) and clean house of all the propagandists working there. Get the Harry Potter set out the door. start eroding the reserved list (I say that as someone who owns 2 revised duals, revised demonic tutor, unlimited copy artifact, various beta cards in decks etc) and turn MTG into an actual titan of gaming (including video gaming, end support for Arena, bolster the serious scene with Modo and getting a console commander game out)
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>>98591905
thank you chang for saving me from jotc once again
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>>98592106
I'd run it if mass bounce and counters are the only thing you fold to.
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>>98592906
>I NEED to proxy card that look like absolute shit so people can think I have the money to buy things that look like shit because they are expensive.
You need to get a grip on your life and your need for validation
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>>98592952
calm down okay, why don't you crack some packs to bring your cortisol down
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>>98592952
fr, I fucking hate people who care about the art on their Magic cards. ALWAYS get the heavily played base version.
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>>98592970
i wish people would calm down over ai art but they keep frothing at the mouth!
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>>98592979
I NEED this bad art. You don't understand. Despite this looking like absolute trash, I NEED it because people will fomo for it and I need to look like I did too and everyone will think I'm cool!
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we can abolish the RL just a bit as a birthday celebration
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>>98592994
No one wants to see your shit ai slop
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>LGS issued policy banning Rulebreaker cards
>Been playing Nick Fury and Wandering Minstrel slop nonstop since then
>Haven't lost once because the same people that petitioned for this change are so bad at the game they lose even playing Archenemy with no schemes
>Watching them blow removal on my commander and act smug when it's probably the worst card in my deck
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>>98593044
this but more and more say it unironically
this game has fast become a race to be as annoying as possible
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>>98593195
the set isn't out yet and this didn't happen btw
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>>98592896
>He thinks MtG translates to a video game format at all
Bahahahaha in your dreams retard you'd be lucky if it beats Hearthstone numbers.
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>>98593195
>LGS issued policy banning Rulebreaker cards
Why did you lead with this even though it has no bearing on the rest of your zany tale?
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>>98593241
I think it was just a lead in to the LGS being retards in general if they are banning rule breaker which is nothing burger mechanics
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I'm still laughing at hybridfags
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>>98593257
whtz is going to be annoying, I don't think any of the others are even going to be small problems
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>>98593294
goes great in my Wort deck
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>>98591844
>TQ: Do you use a 'secret commander'? How does it go?
Yes, if you consider Reveillark combos as the primary point of the deck.
>pic related
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>>98593297
Yeah, but I think that problem with solve itself. People who want to play him seriously probably will only play 200 card decks and not run battle of wits and figure out how to shuffle quick enough
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>playing in a pod with a Miku player
>Attempts to cast Miku on curve
>I slide a manadrain over to xir board.
>Xes eyes began to water
>"Pl-pleas don't, I just want to play my deck, ples.."
>I tap the table in front of me three times and push my chair back slightly.
>Xe crawls under the table, across the disgusting LGS floor
>Unzips my jorts and begins to deepthroat my massive unwashed cock
>I push xes head all the way down and proceed to bust down xis throat
>Xhe returns to xir side and looks at me. My magic juice dribbling down his lip.
>"It resolves"
>Xe sighs in relief and passes the turn
>"EOT, Swords targeting Miku."
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>>98593391
This happened, by the way.
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>>98593308
Cool changs bro
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>>98593391
Finally, a story that actually happened.
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>>98591844
>TQ: Do you use a 'secret commander'? How does it go?
I dislike the idea of most "secret commander" decks, because what the fuck do you do if it gets exiled? That said The Master obviates this issue entirely, and I'm still looking for ways to revisit him. As he says basically any nonlegendary black/blue/colorless creature with a unique effect can be your commander. The issue is finding ones worth building around. Having Ancient Cellarspawn after seeing a legacy video around the idea of lava axing people with Force of Will gave me the inspiration.
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>>98593391
>down his lip.
Grats, you outed yourself as a fag
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>>98593153
No one wants to see your shit proxies either
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erm I actually enjoy seeing proxies and even sometimes AI cards as long as they are kind of creative
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>>98593491
I use changs, your retarded ass wouldn't be able to tell the difference
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>>98593524
What are you doing here then?
You get lame AI slop goblins or you get lame video game reference proxies and that's it
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>>98592193
Damn I always figured you were making it target itself with a redirect effect, but I see now rule 115.5:
>A spell or ability on the stack is an illegal target for itself.
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>>98593428
A few examples of build-arounds for this guy. Though the only one that's really caught my eye is the Drake Hatcher.
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>>98593425
Are you calling those cards fake? For what purpose?
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>>98593525
at least my ai movie is open source unlike you who refuses to have his card checked with a loupe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAg9iDh9_BQ
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Why isn't there a single cool Temur Commander?
No, X-cost matters isn't interesting
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>TQ Nine Fingers Keene with Teval
Its a self mill gates deck. Usually able to get Teval out, Keene helps filter through the deck with the combat trigger. Maze’s End ofcourse is a big close aswell
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>>98593548
>What are you doing here then?
uhh I post in the thread
I don't understand the thrust of your question
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>>98593607
I think you are just a boring person
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>>98593391
The tranny never even attempts to edit the precon either and just plays precons because they live in a deep SSRI haze that prevents them from exercising critical thinking.
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>>98593607
Eshki? She has a neat minigame of trying to balance creature and non-creature spells every turn.
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>>98593491
>>98593153
You're going to anyway.
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>>98593727
kill yourself nigger
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>playing FNM in LGS that I haven't been to for forever
>get in late and sit in a pod with two others, 4rth never showed up, one's playing Riku of many ways, the other plays Animar, I'm playing Black Widow, Super Spy.
>Pregame discussion about the power levels we are going to play, Riku player is just happy to be there, Animar player is weird about the discussion
>ask Animar player if it's eldrazi or combo deck
>Tells me saying "only a little" while not looking at me in the eyes
>Keep hand with three board wipes
>Animar player cracks his fetch into a dual land
>Riku player plays an etb creature with two modes and I tell him Riku doesn't work that way
>Riku player thanks me and takes notes, he seems like a newer player and eager to learn
>Animar player is setting up to go off with animar
>Manage to get down Gauntlet of power turn 5 and board wipe with Rise of Sozin turn 6
>Turn 7, Rise of Sozin allows me to look for a card in Animars deck, I say "Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre"
>He searches through his own deck, finds the Ulamog and says "you're lucky" exiling it face down for some reason
>I ask him if I could take a look at his deck since Rise of Sozin allows me to search the opponent's library
>He tells me I missed the trigger
?????
>Board wipe twice more throughout the game every time Animar came on the field
>Focus him with my Black Widow, exiling cards like Force of Will, Swan Song, and some other kind of busted thing, I forget
>Take control of his Vorniclex with Firelord Sozin and Heartless Conscription twice after he Natural ordered his Birds of Paradise into that Voice of Hunger
>2 hour game ends after I die trying to control him, the Riku player has dealt me a lot of damage since I kept board wiping, he Maelstrom Wanderers to kill me, but he had 4 life left and Riku player took him out with Prophetic titan
>after Animar kills me he says, "I can't believe I won the game!"
Riku player still had 38 life at that time lmao, and deservedly actually won that game.
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>>98593391
can confirm. I was the lgs
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>>98593738
I'm not reading all that but it didn't happen btw
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Considered some feedback from before. Moved some stuff around. Sideboard is the aristocrat side cut off; i think it's an aggro & voltron where recursion is (mostly) guaranteed. No tutors, not a fan of them.

https://moxfield.com/decks/VSHl8VB4R0GOMrMFW18YCQ
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>>98593607
imaginatively bankrupt
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>>98593727
cool
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>>98593727
Every thread I hope you are dead, and I'm always disappointed
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>>98593607
I know it's in the top 100, but this guy is interesting because of politics. You can let people attack you so you both can draw cards, but you get the advantage with the 1/1 flyers. 1/1 flyers are surprisingly relevant for defense.
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>>98593738
Sounds like you really put the screws to that Animar faggot.
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>>98593727
Now show them pooping in those outfits haha



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