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If I want to start a Space Marine army but I don't like the look of primaris marines and would prefer to have classic-looking marines with modern proportions, which creator would be my best pick?
>>98592350Anybody got a mega with all the 4th edition codexes and ForgeWorld stuff?I want to see if the words are true that 4th is actually good.>TQI miss the design team's model pics and their creativity.I don't miss their bad resin quality and that one time they had upside down space wolf boltguns.
Painting Boyz this weekend. What's everyone up to?
I miss everything about FW.
>>98592364Learn to sculpt.
BIGBOUNCYBANSHEEBUTTS
>>98592366watching AEW All In, gonna paint when it gets done around 6
>>98592350>TQThey put out some cool designs that would eventually be replaced by (arguably) superior plastics.
>>98592367If I had been on Vraaks things wouldn't have gone down like that
I prefer Aquilons and Saturnines in 40K over anything primarshit desu
>>98592350>what do you miss about forgeworldUpgrade kits, variations and alternate regiments for IG, Fun/weird units.
>>98592352Legs+midsection number 6 is twisting lefthowever any of the chestpieces can be attached to it and it will still look naturalIf GW made kit like this with those 6 poses, you would be able to make every body 6 look massively different anyway, just like in old tactical squad while still retaining dynamic poseMAYBE it's not possible somehow to do so in plastic like another anon said, but it works fantastic here
>>98592379Heavy Terminators in 40k when?
>>98592385Same with phobos here, you take body 36, but any chest piece will fit itdynamic pose and variety in bits both
>>98592350>What do you miss about ForgeWorld?I miss their website, I miss their newsletters, I miss their catalogs, I miss their Imperial Armour series, I miss their upgrade kits, I miss their models, I miss their etched brass, I miss their transfers, I miss EVERYTHING!
>>98592389We big chungus now
>>98592393The heavy bolt pistols the phobos marines use look cool, I wonder why GW never used them on any other primaris unit.On other primaris units heavy bolt pistols just look like godwyn bolters/bolt carbines but with smaller magazines
>>98592385I had never seen these "kits" but that's exactly what I was talking about. Wouldn't dislike primaris as much if it worked like that.Could go ever deeper and have some variation in the leg/abdomen details; Mk6 feet, thighs without extra plates, different belts and abdomens. Not separate parts, just the basic variation the pieces come in.Still sad the new intercessor kit doesn't seem to come with breastplates like picrel, looks much better than the fake pecs to me.
>>98592389>>98592407>that one autist that fills their diaper to the brim with the mere mention that there are in fact Astartes that are larger than othersGood times were had by all.
>>98592370NTA but really how hard would it be with Blender these days? And how quickly would I get bonked by GW for distributing the fan works for "free" on purple site where one's chosen payment option is free to pay or not? With a donation link in the description too?I imagine myminifactory would have me bonked quickly.>I might use Chatgpt answers for steps on doing this. >>98592367I think GW was making pics like those in ForgeWorld/Horus Heresy books long before. I still would ask chatgpt myself for steps on remaking those. Admittedly I'll have to greenscreen my miniatures because I don't have the space the ForgeWorld diorama teams had.
>>98592407How retard proof and good and affordable are model scanners now? Is cleaning up the scans a valid concern nowadays? Has there been any scan projects for Tortuga's Warhammer 40k proxy minis? I like them and they should be preserved in case a Russian rocket says "privyet" to their HQ.
>>98592410Those are just different style of fake pecs.
>>98592416I mean, you could just not put them on the larger sites and do it on the sly, have your files spread through word of mouth and file sharing sites. Nothing to tie you down, no contact info, nothing.The Rogue Hobbyist, if you will.
Okay guys I've got a question. I'm very much a casual at this point, but my brushes suck. They're just reclaimed water color brushes that got handed down to me because they weren't being used, and the main problem I see is that they're not very good at not fraying badly. What are some actually decent brushes that I could get?
>>98592425I get what you're saying but scanning the work of people who are living in a country at war is a bit tasteless imo.
>>98592426I like this style of fake pecs better then.>>98592416Be the ultimate autist and scan the models, cut them better, fix the scans in post and then share the "super marine builder" files for free. total GW death.
>>98592364Grey Knights
>>98592377nigga you afraid to look the mcdonalds cashier in the eyes when you ordering yo daily 20 nuggets lunch for the day. you ain't shit!
>>98592415It sounds like you're masturbating with a strawman.
>>98592441You order by screens nowadays, you should know that.
>>98592441>this dude hasn't got outside since 2019Paler than a night lord this nigga
>>98592350Imperial armorsupport vehicles that have no place on the front lineselysianshammerhead variants and the classic barracuda hell all the tau vehicles. And most of all I miss when they'd think about things such as logistics and doctrine.
>>98592441Colonel Tolan would have taken one look at me and realized I'm different.Nice horse btw, faggot.
>>98592436>I get what you're saying but scanning the work of people who are living in a country at war is a bit tasteless imo.That actually is a good point. I sounded really immoral there. When the war is over I'll consider it.I've got some stuff from Tortuga right now and I'll scan those if it goes down for archival purposes.>>98592430Are there any notable Rogue Hobbyists that do this and their models have gotten very popular and highly coveted STLs?
>>98592433People will ramble about W&N sable brushes, which are good quality, but while you're still learning, synthetics are fine. For larger brushes for things like base coating, you don't need to be too discerning. Stuff you find at more general craft hobby shops will be fine. For when you want to do your best at fine control I recommend starting with brushes specifically meant for miniature hobby painting. Recently I've been enjoying the Vallejo detail series, they've held up well to a lot of use, and learning to take care of your brushes (pick up Master's Brush Cleaner) will keep them going for a while. Eventually synthetics will start to splay the tips of the brush, but you're going to be a lot harder on brushes anyways while you learn and so having something like a ferrule get fucked up from paint loading in there on a synthetic you paid $5 or so will not bother you as much as on a $15 sable brush.
>>98592350>TQAll the old guard tanksMachariusGraia HellhoundsArmageddon BasilisksGriffon Mortar CarriersMedusa Siege TanksI miss the variety but I know why they were axed (datasheet bloat)They could make the Basilisk a much more interesting kit if they added more weapon options (like the Medusa's or Griffon's guns) though.>>98592433Go to your nearest hobby store, doesn't matter if it's a gaming hobby store or hobby lobby or whateverBuy a pack of brushes, doesn't matter what brand or the price (beyond "don't buy the ones with a nylon working end"); their sizes are written on them. You don't need much bigger than a #1 brush unless you're doing a lot of vehicles, so look for a 0, 00, 5/0 and 10/0. You can go down to a 20/0 but I wouldn't, the smallest I've used is a 10/0 for painting guardsmen webbing.Use those to learn brush handling/care and how to properly apply them in painting until they inevitably eat shit (all brushes do with use), then buy actually nice brushes once you know how to handle and treat brushes.
>>98592462>logistics and doctrineI wish we had imperial guard cooks and shit, like mobile kitchens with guards lining up for grubs and sitting to eat.I wish we had a proper diorama scene like train and historical autists
Isnt this game kinda ripping 40k off
>>98592350>>thread question:>What do you miss about ForgeWorld?Honestly nothing, their stuff was always weird, overpriced, and badly integrated into 40k.Even their books, while undoubtedly done at a way better standard than GW, have never left anything to me specifically.
>>98592473It is by design a license-free 40k porn game, so that GW doesn't send them a C&D.
You now remember Anphelion base.
>>98592473I don't know but I don't care either way. 40k, like many of the best fictional universes out there are "ripping" stuff out.That's why I hate IP. GW made bank off references and then acts like they invented bread.
>>98592464>I'll scan thoseTry to if I can get a decent scanner and results that require minimal clean up if at all.>>98592437>total GW death.Trust me bro. GW needs to stay alive so the ip doesn't fall into worse hands. Yes it is possible.But at the moment it is fun being able to show up at the LGS (not warhammer store) with unique models that not only daringly are not official colors but have unofficial headswaps.
>>98592479>implying I forgot
>>98592473>>98592478>40k porn "fan games" are now a thing.I mean a porn was made of a dark eldar girl getting it on with some catachans so I shouldn't be surprised. How likely is GW gonna claim them to take them down which will make them canon?
>>98592483>Trust me bro. GW needs to stay alive so the ip doesn't fall into worse hands. Yes it is possible.It's dead to me, I don't care if it gets worse. Jes goodwin is gone.
>>98592491Why is it that the degradation photoshopped effects instead enhances the images beyond immersion reasons? Has to be more than immersion right?
Make sure you're eating well firstborn chuds
Some MADMAN just ran through my LGS with an AX and chopped up all the firstborn armies!
>>98592520Because it also tells a story. "Why is the future not better". "Why does it look like that?" etc.I'd say immersion is a plus/bonus but the truth is that they go hand in hand when you take something seriously.
>>98592528I ate a wonderfully homecooked coq au vin with potato gratin and green beans, followed by cake, pastries and more cake. I'm barely 145 lbs.
>>98592530James' agents are working overtime.They gotta purge the bits so they can nostalgiabait the Mk7/8 when the time comes.
>>98592462Come home to 4th edition military autists...
Are they gonna release a roadmap or something? Would be nice to know what codices are coming up before 2027.
>>98592548In-field vehicle camo paintjobs should be sloppy on top of a "clean" factory paint finishIt should look like it's been applied ad-hoc by the crew with literal mops out of buckets
>>98592551They tried roadmaps once, it didnt work.
>>98592548Gimme the PDFs and I'll be able to. After I find someone at the LGS willing to give them a try.I don't want to touch TTS as I've seen the horror stories of it being LGS rejects.
Today's matchup, I'm feeling some sisters vs nids. After the nid's abysmal showing yesterday where they basically got tabled (>>98590279), they need another chance.Shadow in the Warp+a Neurotyrant should be good against the LD7 SoB, and SoB are also short range which will help the nids charge them easier. The Eldar played at exact shooting ranges and stayed back which ended up being (too) effective.I'm enjoying the take and hold mirror so we'll stay with that.
>>98592366Taking a break from the Gorkanaut to work on my Armageddon Orks. Finished the Painboy and now working on the Warboss.Will need to break out the actual camera for the finished models as I'm a shitter that cannot into phone camera depth-of-field apparently.
>Dem 'umies wot fokus all dakka on da Gargant, da bommaz go at dem from da sides. Dey nevar ekspekt da bommaz t' go in from da sides, see.
>>98592577How did you paint your Immolator windows? I'm looking to get one soon to finish a 1k roster before expanding it to 2k and want to know how awful it is to doIs it just "use contrast paints?">nids charging into SoBIf there's a Palatine getting charged, whatever ran at her is going to die very soon IME
>>98592467>MachariusI remember when rumors of a new tank was coming out for guard and anons thought it was the Macharius or were hoping it would be the macharius. Then it turned out to be the Dorn tank and then it had a hole in the bottom that was to me felt like a slap in the face as not only was it a spiteful rejection of the ForgeWorld tank but also an incomplete one at that.
>>98592467I want a macharius vulcan so badly, the stormlord doesn't do it for me...ebay prices though...
Do you guys freehand custom heraldry?
>>98592393This is no better or worse than the existing kits idgi? Just arbitrary different ways to divide and join things just to pretend GW is bad?
>>98592616I'd rather engage in the autism of finding decal paper and trying to wrangle free and open source software like inkscape to create the custom heraldry for my 40k dudes.I'm just not sure at the moment how to make sure those decal sizes print at the right size.
>>98592602multiple very thin layers of thinned inks, and a fine tip ink pen for the recesses between the pieces of "glass".
>>98592616Nah, you can literally print custom decals and make your life so much easier.
I made all my Aeldari helmetless and now I think it'd be cool to build Prince Yriel with the helmet onThoughts?
>>98592623>a fine tip ink penlike a sharpie pen? people use those on minis?
>>98592617With this system you could make combining different chestplates and legs possible again like in an old tactical kit, while retaining dynamic poses tooGuy simply didn't make many chest pieces for Phobos kit
>>98592367I miss it too, anon. Everything from the realistic scale-model style paintjobs, to the awesome diorama photography, the art, the model designs, the autistic campaign timelines, it was all gold. Raid on Kastorel-Novem specifically still contains some of my favorite 40k models ever.
>>98592631Yeah, all the time. They're really good.https://www.amazon.com/gundam-markers/s?k=gundam+markers
>>98592607I have a bit of hope about a Macharius being relased for 30k in the future.There was a fan theory about it orignally having been named "Lupercal".It makes sense because there was a Russ, Gorgon, Valdor, Malcador, etc among the early GC tanks, but nothing about the first Primarch found with no less ego than the others. After the heresy it would have been forgotten on purpose by the Imperium until the STC was reused again with the name of a new Warmaster (get it?)
>>98592616I'd rather spend 200 bucks on custom bits. GW sells 10 shoulder pads for 20 bucks, with 200 bucks I can get like 5 different designs.
>>98592638>from the realistic scale-model style paintjobsYeah, the heavy metal schemes are so boring
>>98592617It's a rather unfair comparison given that 3d printing doesn't have to worry about constraints of mold production, but that doesn't make it harder to see the differences here. You can easily see what it affords you in terms of build flexibility and cross-"kit" swapping just by looking at the separation of shoulders, greaves, and the way they're doing wrists and hands on the single arms.
>>98592629Do the worst of both worlds with the open face helmet.
>>98592629If you want the helmet on the model you could have him hold it rather than wear itor have a little creature hold it for him pose him well enough and you may have him stare into his own helmet in philosophical musings
>>98592607The rogal dorn is a primaris leman russ that tried to stand where the macharius stood.I hope we get a new wave of krieg with the macharius, quartermaster and lord marshal on foot, both with retinue.
>>98592607I genuinely despise the DornNot because of what it is, but because of what it isn't (and the fact it has no bottom panel). The older tanks just fit the Guard aesthetic far more IMO, I don't like the "WW2 US Army in space" thing.The Dorn is just an M26 Pershing in space, I hate it.At least the Malcador lives on in HH...>>98592615Fortunately for me I'm a printfag and I have one of the torrents that's floating around that has the old FW tanks in it so it's not all lost for me>>98592623>inksThat makes a lot more sense than paints, I'll have to give it a tryThanks anon>>98592660>lord marshal on footWhy does Krieg not have a Castellan equivalent unit, it genuinely confounds me why there isn't a "Krieg Marshal" unit that's just one guy instead of a full command squad.Kriegers are not THAT good to not deserve one.
>>98592528Seasoning check, white boy
>>98592648nta but what couldn't plastic mold injection do that this does? You'd need to split the abdomen/legs into at pieces and the torsos in halves (similar to how it used to be), same with weapon arms, but otherwise all you'd need is to split these pieces into parts, and you'd keep the same level of customization (or even more if you can switch torso fronts and backs)
>>98592671Why is Washington after Nepolean?
>>98592677Not saying you couldn't produce a mold that accommodated those parts, the constraints I had in mind were budgetary.
>>98592669Maybe I should get a printer... I live in a third world country and I used to know a recaster in person for metal models but not resin. There are so many oop things I want
>>98592669>why does krieg not have a castellan equivalent unitSame reason why Gw decided to fuse grenadiers and engineers. same reason we got lord dreir. Same reason why they made the krieg cmd squad led by a commissar, when the fluff had commissars be fragged by kriegers for not committing enough. I have my own krieg officer model, so I don't care
>>98592364Chaos Space Marines.
>>98592685>budgetaryAre we talking "this isn't profitable" or "this doesn't cut enough corners and we could make way more money that way"
>>98592669>I have one of the torrents that's floating around that has the old FW tanks in it so it's not all lost for meMacharius STL plz?
>>98592697In GW's case I'd assume both, though the proportions of each reason I can't say.
>>98592442Nah, a few weeks ago we had some guy lose his shit over the space sharks chapter master and when somebody provided cited sources stating he's at least a head taller than other terminators he kept losing his shit saying that didn't count because clearly the guy who provided the source wanted the chapter master to be primarch sized
>>98592710Seeing GW shit out entire systems like ligma, I'd say they could afford to put and extra sprue for the same price.On top of that, if you make a super cross-compatible range, you can absolutely put the same sprue in multiple box. That's what you had with marines for a time. Hell, multiple times now that I mention it.
>>98592647I get that GW wants to sell it's own paint system, but it really does feel like it's more work for worse results compared to many of the scale modelling techniques the Forge World guys used. Fortunately there are quite a few resources out there now for those who want to want to learn, it's just sad that we fon't get those autistically realistic diorama shots in official publications anymore.
James! There's only one way to save 40k! Release the Hrud!
>>98592729This but make them space skavens. I wish I was shitposting but I like space fantasy.
>>98592731>but make them space skavensNo, fuck off, they are canonically the bendy freakshit things
>>98592719>some guy lose his shit over the space sharks chapter masterJust out of the blue like that?
>>98592595>gargantThat's clearly a landa
>>98592740Somebody mentioned him being bigger and he started sperging out about them wanting him to be twice the size of a marine and continued sperging when everybody pointed out nobody said that
>>98592739>canon>40kThank god this never changed
>>98592671your mother
>>98592528Based!
>>98592690I just find it to be this weird half-step in the guard roster where Cadians just have an option to do everything while also being the most versatileKrieg are the dedicated "defensive" set of units, but not getting a 1-unit attachable officer makes their value far lower than it should be vs. Cadians.>>98592700I looked at my shit, turns out the folder labelled "Macharius" is actually a proxy that you can download from purple site right now for free (as long as you make an account)Sorry anonI do have scan STLs for a lot of the other FW stuff (guard infantry, Russ variants, other factions) though. I found the torrents through googling "40k stl torrent." There's 4 hashes posted in a thread on r/3dprintedwarhammer (it was the top result when I googled it both 3 months ago and right now to check) that all work and have what you'd want (other than the Macharius and Malcador, which I only have proxies for). Yes I know "ew r*ddit" but good info is good info despite its source.
>>98592751>tactical rockReeeeeeeeeeeeeeJoke aside, can the rock be placed under the other leg for a different pose?
>>98592751>dried herbs instead of fresh onesabsolutely disgusting
>>98592763No, it's a part of the leg
>>98592740It seems like he was beating up a strawman himself.
>>98592750It doesn't nearly as much as you newfags and tourists like to meme that it does.
>>98592751spicy niggas
>>98586721well, you missed making the last thread, and a new one has been made with the same “bloat” as before, so when are you making a new thread with everything condensed into pastebins? you’re not a daydreaming failure, are you?
>>98592764I have to drive 30m to get something better than walmart leave me alone
>>98592731Orks are just a 40k adaptation of WFB Orcs and they're an extremely popular faction. Same deal with Eldar. I'm not sure where people keep getting the idea that you can't just port a faction from Fantasy to 40k and have it work well.
>>98592776It doesn't work for Skaven because Genestealer Cults and AdMech already ate their fucking lunch.
>>98592780doesn't matter, plenty of factions have overlapping gimmicks
do any of the third party not-40k sellers like tortuga bay or artel actually look good next to 40k figs or are they just memes
>>98592784Not to that degree.
>>98592762As you said it, Cadians are the default, and krieg are an add-on, instead of a "separate" range.>no macharius STLI cri :'CI'll look into the torrent for the infantry stuff, cheers
>>98592789lmao okay retard
>>98592729
>>98592793I don't care how much you seethe, furfag, I'm objectively correct and you are a biased retard desperately reaching for some excuse for GW to pander to your furfaggotry, but it is never happening.
>>98592799I'm not the one seething here lmao
>>98592801Adding "lmao" to the end of your posts doesn't fool anyone, crying furfag
>>98592806Don't get so mad next time somebody says they want a faction you don't want
>>98592780Space Skaven would be a faction that uses extremely unstable Warp technology to power their weapons and make WMDs while simultaneously drowning their enemies under a stream of expendable shitters and bio-horror freaks. If anything they'd overlap with Orks, but the approach is plenty different.
>>98592807Don't get so mad when someone points out why it will never happen because it overlaps too much with existing factions, you're just objectively reaching and seething at facts.
>>98592785people say they use them as proxies all the time but i don't think i've ever seen them irl or posted here
>>98592810>objectivelylollmao
>>98592809you just described chaos
>>98592809>while simultaneously drowning their enemies under a stream of expendable shitters and bio-horror freaksSure, and we could also give them this theme of coming from underground with mining technology, and have assassins with poison, and... oh wait.
>>98592785>>98592811Somebody here painted up one of the tortuga bay red butchers and it looked really good
>>98592809Neither anon here but I find rat people to be too cartoonish for the setting, takes the seriousness out of it and I don’t like it.
necromunda stuff >https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/zseghuho/sunday-preview-goliath-vs-escher-showdown/>Here at Warhammer Community, we’ve got a long-awaited reveal coming tomorrowAny idea what this will be?
>>98592822>too cartoonish for 40kpermanent means permanent, mutant
>>98592813>lol>lmao
>>98592366I love the quartered scheme on the shy boy :D>What are you up to?got sick for a week to the point I couldn’t even paint, so now I’m playing catch up for the collage. luckily, all I have left is basecoating some ruins and highlighting the orks which shouldn’t be a problem. I also tried freehanding the MM with very sorry results (not to worry though because soon they’ll be too dead to care). >>98592588what are you putting on the banner? >>98592528do canned sardines count as good eats?
>>98592827Go away forever
>>98592799NTA but 4chan is a HMOFA websiteYou are a guest here, behave yourself
Haven't been around in years. How are Tyranids doing on the table top?
>>98592836You faggots have been told to YIFF IN HELL since the earliest days of /b/
>>98592789There is barely any similarity between GSC, Admech, and skaven
>>98592847Yes you read a KYM page and think you know what it was actually like back then
>>98592809>would be a faction that uses extremely unstable Warp technology to power their weaponsDark Mechanicus, you are talking about the Dark Mechanicus.
>>98592820Holy shit the imperium guard are skaven
4chan oldheads are bickering again..
>>98592851Nigger I was there, before /tg/ even existed, you will not succeed with this faggy historical revisionism
>>98592849He's a seething shitposter, don't give him the attention
>>98592847yiffing is furry on furry. hmofa is male on furry female (the most patrician pairing) you’d know this if you didn’t just hop on the band wagon mindlessly.
>>98592861>the shitposter who does this shit of accusing others of what he's doing is also the skavenfagI'm noticing!
>>98592858damn, how can they prove their seniority? do they just post the crustiest anime body pillow?
>>98592849which is why third party proxies use gsc and common conversions use admechbarely any similarity
>>98592860No you weren'tI was though, and /tg/ was full of furry threads about fucking kobolds gnolls and pathfinder anthrosYou will now deflect, melt down, and start spamming
>>98592389Will Tyberos still wear the regular Terminator armor or will they give him modified Gravis after he crosses the Rubicon Primaris?
>>98592416>And how quickly would I get bonked by GW for distributing the fan works for "free" on purple siteHonestly don't know. Copyright enforcement seems very inconsistent there. I've seen things that are extremely creatively named to avoided detection get taken down almost immediately, and other things that are literally just named "Space Marine Tactical Squad for Warhammer" stay up for literally years and are still up to this day.
>>98592862No see you're trying to do some midwit explanation like I don't know what HMOFA stands for, but I am dropping a truthnuke on you that jerking off to animal people is always gay faggot loser shit, actually.
>>98592865mine isn't crusty because I wouldn't dare finish on her like she's a common harlot
>>98592867>no thri kreensomeone hasn’t read the thri who loved me…
>>98592824>Any idea what this will be?Something ghey, no doubt.
>>98592866Feel free to show me a rat electro priest, or a rat servitor or..
>>98592867>No you weren'tI was, seethe eternally.>and /tg/ was full of furry threads about fucking kobolds gnolls and pathfinder anthrosYeah and we always hated them here in /40kg/ and FlashGitz made an entire following and fat stacks of money dollars from their shorts about Black Templars massacring furriesSpace King 5 TODAY btw
>>98592889>m-muh flashgitz BT animationyeah you're definitely under 25 go back kiddie
>>98592824TACTICAL MARINE REFRESH
>>98592771Not the point, projectron
>>98587224>>98587251Sorry I'm late anons.Here is the fan made file of a Rogal Dorn tank recreated as if ForgeWorld designed the tank.>https://gofile.io/d/sH77kQCoI'm not gonna bother password protecting this one as it needs to be shared before GW gets it.Hopefully I can get in contact with the creator and ask him to make "full covering" tank track guards like the Leman Russ ones so headlights can be put on them.Please share this a lot. I paid for this as I feared it being lost and needed it ASAP
>>98592889/40kg/ didn't exist regularly until 2015You knew that right larper-kun? You're not a poser, are you?
>>98592824>>Here at Warhammer Community, we’ve got a long-awaited reveal coming tomorrowNew Warcry box
>>98592889>FlashGitz made an entire following and fat stacks of money dollars from their shorts about Black Templars massacring furriesYou mean the one where the black templars got a stuffy for Lola bunny?
>>98592900Retarded non sequitor that has nothing to do with anything in my post? Where was a date mentioned.
>>98592824some marine dogshit
>>98592854No, I'm talking about Space Skaven, silly. If you look closely, you'll see that Dark Mechanicus are not a vast plague of funny-talking rat guys. By that logic, Dark Mechanicus are Orks because they experiment with dangerous technology and build crazy war machines with it.>>98592820Not Chaos-aligned and more terrorist/insurgent vibes than rat infestation with nuclear weapons vibes
>>98592916>>98592854>Dark MechanicusYou're both newfags, lurk moar holy shit
Primaris Land Raider is coming
>>98592903You only learned about /tg/ from 1d4chan long after the real /tg/ died and it shows>>98592909>non sequiturbringing up a general that didn't exist for approaching a decade to dictate how a board was from its inception is irrelevant, keep seething
>>98592887anything else?
Resized rhino tomorrow. The seething will be off the charts.
>>98592824>long-awaitedAll boltguns becoming bolt rifles and thus having s5ap-1d1 or s6ap-1d2t4 Sisterss4 lasguns and s4ap-1 hotshot lasgunsPrimaris PredatorSororitas Vindicator
>>98592932
>>98592824Why do they hype shit up when it's always the biggest nothingburger ever>HUGE REVEALS
>>98592868Terminator armor, especially since they're more likely to bring him back for a badab war return
>>98592900>/40kg/ didn't exist regularly until 2015The whole board was always 40k thoughbeit, just because a general hadn't been established doesn't change a thing that was said.
>>98592809>The Dark Mechanicum would be a faction that uses extremely unstable Warp technology to power their weapons and make WMDs while simultaneously drowning their enemies under a stream of expendable shitters and bio-horror freaks.ftfy
>>98592833Probably one of the Evil Sunz transfers unless the need to freehand an Evil Sunz pattern on it strikes me (it probably won't). Water slide decals aren't my favorite thing to work with, but they do look nice if you do them right.I've seen ads for a decal stamp thing that might be worth checking out, too, but I'd probably want to check out reviews to see if it's just a gimmick or not first.
>>98592955NopeIt started as a containment board because 40kfags were as bad as bronies would become but from its inception it had plenty of discussion of other tabletops and card games
>>98592893>>98592904>>98592915>>98592935You're all fucking retards, it's a NECROMUNDA reveal
>>98592949It's called marketing. Do you really expect them to say something is a nothing burger? No. The whole point is to hype people up and get them excited for new product.
What kind of different Knight chasis could they do?Even taller? Even Smaller? Extra limbs?
>>98592903An elegant meme for a more civilized age.
>>98592955>thoughbeitStop talking like a faggot. It doesn't make you look intelligent to use words no one uses anymore. It makes you look cringe and gay.
>>98592932>>98592941These don't look like skaven, these look like admech with rat heads.Do you think these look like beastmen?
>>98592967
>>98592964Sorry, ESL anon, but nothing about Necromunda is "long-awaited".
>>98592967Knights have enough shit, do the Exodite Knights GW
>>98592921>noooo you have to call them Dark Mechanicum because they're the true heirs of the MechanicumI've been saying it wrong for decades and I'm not going to start saying it "right" now. We can talk about it when they get an actual 40k release.
>>98592965>it's marketingNo nigger, I'm asking why do they pick this type of marketing? There are a thousand ways to do marketing, and hyping shit up and then failing to meet the expectations you chose to set up is terrible marketing.Don't be a fucking retard, anon, you should know better.
>>98592980nta but having a melty over someone's choice of words is cringe and gay thoughbeit
>>98592996>I'm asking why do they pick this type of marketing?Because it works, retard.
>>98592956Dark Mechanicum can't exist in game. Too close to Admech.
>>98592985>but nothing about Necromunda is "long-awaited".Newfag this game is beloved, why do you think it get so much fucking contentWe've got Ratskins and Scavvies people are still waiting on for years
We didn't bother with objectives today and tried to use stratagems, grenades are busted
>>98593003Nah, they'll be as different from AdMech as CSM are from Space Marines, Chaos versions of things existing is very 40k
>>98592366Love the cactus, how’d you make it?
>>98593003This. Can't have a spiky version of a loyalist faction in the game.
>>98593002>It worksNo, and it certainly doesn't do a positive difference.
>>98593016GW's sales numbers and record profits disagree with your assertions.
>>98593008BLOOD RAVENS.Our chapter, is in ruins...
>>98592964sorry anon, I just took >>98592824 word at face value. anywayPLASTIC SQUAT REFRESH INCOMING
>>98592548Griffons > Wyverns
>>98593022That makes no sense since the sales cannot show how effective the marketing is since it's the only kind of marketing they use. There is no way you can see from the data that this kind of marketing is making a positive impact.I told you to stop being a retard, and you kept going still.
SoB have 6 units that scout and Nids have 1 scout and 1 infiltrate. SoB have no reserves, Nids are holding on to just the trygon. Nids win the dice roll to go first. Turn 1 begins!Our contestants for todayhttps://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/UMelMhttps://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/MBjQa
>>98592967They could something chaotic like... I dunno, a wardog that actually prowls on 4 legs, or a knight on skittering legs, or hell even a flying one or one whose bottom half is a tank!!seriously, just let chaos knights field the chaos demon engines in their normal codex instead of having them retool the loyalist knights with spikes and a black paintjob
I went in to buy a sharper knife and came out with this, I left my tamiya glue at the counter by accident and have to go get it laterI'll make sprue goo out of the citadel one and buy a knife/good paintbrush later
>>98592981>These don't look like skavenYes, they do
Subjugator remake when?
>>98593014>Uses Space Marines but spiky>Uses bolters as their primary weapon>Uses Imperial tech but spikyWe have to squat Chaos Marines, their role is already taken.
>>98593050>more chaos knight slopAwful, no thank you
>>98593052>>98593003>the furry is now SEETHING nonstop
>>98593055That's a titan
Look how desperate he is for attention
>>98592954I know regular Primaris can wear Terminator armor but there has to at least be a significant enough redesign to show off his new found chadmaris nature.I also realize I'm lacking in Charcaradon art.
>>98593010No foam ball and toothpick soul here, I'm afraid, I bought them on etsy.
>>98593061Lysander didn't get a redesign. He even got simpler.If they bring back tyberos it'd be for badab war, so pre-primaris.In any case no changes, just an update
>>98593061getting a plastic model is already proof he's a primaris
>>98593060>shitposter-kun is the furfaggotOh my god kek
>>98593069>it'd be for badab war, so pre-primaris.LOL
>>98593076You're a furfag? Weird thing to admit
>>98593060Iron Take alert!
>>98593046Aside from be rats, not really
>>98593056>SeethingI just think Skaven are fun little psycho retards. I don't want to fuck them, I want to krump them en masse
>>98593082Not fooling anybody
I am once again asking the mods to make any mention of this lolcow a bannable offense. I blame the fire and the fuel.
>>98593083What is this supposed to mean to a non-zoomer
>>98593099Dude they are calling the Skaven guy a furry and arguing with him, this entire convo has nothing to do with me or the Wolves you stupid retard.
>>98593099Curious how as soon as the mutant shows up you show up to say the people mocking him are the ones who need to be banned, exactly a minute after his first post
>>98593091Please remain on topic, and stop being schizophrenic
>>98593084Aside from the fact they look like skaven with skaven augmentations.
It's true, decalmutant might be an insufferable retard most times but he's not the problem today, it's the ratfucking furfag who seethes and melts down at any mention of Hrud not being Skaven in space, this has happened on and off for YEARS since before decalmutant even became a regular here.
>>98593112He’s confused because of the Skaven discussion, he sees “furry” and assumes it has something to do with Space Wolves because he’s a hyper obsessed lunatic.
Sup brosHappy sundayAnyone got any games today?Hows life treating you?
What brushes does everyone use? I went from the starter brush to buying two small citadel brushes that immediately died, a pack of three brushes that were all wacky useless sizes, a pack of 30 chinese brushes for a fiver that were twigs with hair glued on and finally to two of these
>>98593120Skavrn augmentation doesn't look like that. Those look more like rat orks than skaven
>>98593161>Skavrn augmentation doesn't look like that.Yes, they do
>>98593152>no uoh yeah, he's seething alright
>>98592367>>98592638Reminder that Citadel killed Forge World out of jealousy, and they literally had to wait for Alan Bligh to die in order to pull it off.
Hey everyone remember to just stay on topic and ignore bullshit and report everything thats off topicThis shit is lame and it gets old as fuckIf you just casually ignore and report stupid bullshit everything will be fineIve been enjoying kill team a lot recentlyWant to get the exodites even though they suckI just think they look cool
>>98593141>scrolling up to samefag a post you already replied toCringe!
>>98593175nta but was this made befor or after aos?
>>98592389>>98593061GW should make primaris terminators. Like an actual new armor pattern that hasn't even been mentioned before.Indomitus is cool but I want new terminator armor patterns as well, just say some fuck ass techpriest who works under Cawl found the pattern on the bumfuck-middle-of-nowhere-planet-zeta-04 that was a traitorous forgeworld (not chaos kind of traitor) who wanted to fracture off from the Imperium and Mechanicus, no chaos corruption, just humans being humans and serving their own self interests.And the armor then got put into production after the Imperium sent 67 regiments of Guard and 9 chapters of marines and 13 sororitas and elements of 3 mechanicus explorator fleets orders to secure the STC template. 97% of all regiments, chapters, sororitas and mechanicus present were lost in the subsequent "small scale" war between the Imperium and traitor who tried to desert from the Imperium.
>>98593161biological augmentation seems a bit silly in the future
>>98593190before
>>98593180exodites look great and I'll wait to see if they get infantry
Is it a bit early to ask about list building with the new ork codex? I haven't played orks before so I'm out of the loop on combos and the like. My plan right now is green tide + bully boyz + dreadmob:>40 boyz + warboss + weirdboy + maybe big boss and banner nob? not sure what's their use>6 killa kanz, a deff dread, a mek>Ghaz + 6 meganobz>3 deffkoptas for actions and whatnot I suppose?I'm a bit lost and Idk what to add.
>>98593190Just before, when all the worst WHFB designs started coming out
>>98593180Based thread saver>someone already used my Straight Baalin reactDamn, nice that it's getting around though
>>98593175>Augments clearly more biological and arcane than technologicalI'm starting to think you just see skaven as rat people, instead of demon rat people, maybe you are a furfag.
>>98593198I seriously hope not.What's even the fucking point of eldar riding dinosaurs if they don't have dinosaurs rides?
>>98593190End Times which basically was Age of Sigmar before they revealed it, all its models were shit and had the exact same design direction and aesthetic as the early AoS stuff
>>98593158dauntless synthetic 00 for everything that isn't tanks or the tiniest details
>>98593209>Eldar get a detachment that lets dino riders be battlelinePLEASE
>>98593191True saturnine pattern>>98593194>>98593204>before:D>like, JUST beforeD:
>>98593193Nigga what
>>98593179Forge World sucked and is responsible for some of the most annoying additions to the game.
>>98593209I mean theres nothing wrong with having both riders and some people on footTactically it makes sense to have like some snipers or footsoldiers who can take position in buildings or tuck themselves into small places more easily alongside the riders
>>98593227Retard.
>>98593208>>Augments clearly more biological and arcane than technologicalHow are you even fucking missing them?
>>98593227Terrible take
>>98593226wow yeah I'm retarded
>>98593052
>>98593228They're called Rangers, Eldar already have them>but those are Craftworld units!They actually spend more time among the Exodites than back home with their Craftworld kin
>>98593228If they were thinking about things tactically they wouldn't be riding dinosaurs.They just want to ride dinosaurs, if you want eldar snipers on foot you've got rangers already.It's not like exodites will be in a separate codex anyway.
I like orks :D
>>98593231>magical blast shooter powered by magical rocks, with tubes connected to said magical rock.
>>98592903Honestly was awful, people who think they’re getting deeper meaning from it need to take their meds.
>>98592350>Decimator EditionSo CSM is gonna get a castraferrum equivalent in the helbrute and a redemptor equivalent in the decimator while castraferrums die in a ditch? Man.
>>98593237I know, we're about three layers of "That's the joke" deep now.
>>98593230>>98593233Too young or too poor to know what forge world was actually doing and how they operated?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98593254Nigger I've read all the Forge World books and they were kino, what the fuck nonsense are you babbling about? Talk like a normal person.
>>98593193That's the entire point of 40k.
>>98593191If I had to imagine anything new coming out it's either Lion digging around in the closet of shit he has and pulling out something that Big E entrusted to him or, if we get another primarch, it'll come with them.My money is on Russ coming back but I've also seen rumblings about Dorn as well.
>>98593158rosemary & co sables
>>98593179I hate that you're right, anon. That whole era came with a load of questionable GW decisions, but that's the one that bothered me the most as the Imperial Armour books are what initially got me into 40k.It'll definitely sound like oldfag seething, but I really wonder how GW would be doing today without their huge coof bump.
>Can't live with you. Can't live without you. It has me perturbed.
>>98593248Alright, you've gone full retard now.You'll never get 40k skaven and you will never even put in the minimal amount of effort required to have your own proxied 40k skaven yourself.
>>98593204The worst designs unironically came out with 7th edition.
>>98593191>New Primaris Terminator armorIsn't that what Gravis is supposed to be?
>>98593214They spent all of their model sauce on the single greatest model produced up to that point
>>98593214The models were honestly awful because they were still made with square bases in mind, they don’t look good because they don’t have the freedom that a round provides.
>>98593214the khornate models for the end times had different design cues from the ones released with the launch of aosit's very obvious that the waves were designed separately
>>98593284>You'll never get 40k skavenJames. You know what to do. Make sure they’re overpowered on release like votann for maximum sales.
>>98593209so we get brown half-naked wood elves
>>98593254I know forgeworld wasn’t perfect. I think they were priced knowing their primary buyers would be recasters.Besides the bad resin quality and that one time the space wolf boltgun barrel was upside down. What are you talking about?I’m assuming you aren’t trolling in the old “pretending” to be retarded.
>>98593319>brown >half-naked >wood elvesthat ain't exodites
>>98593306>Make sure half of them are women or look like brown people>I understand they're rats, don't question me
>>98593319This anon don’t know that attractive adult women faces are verboten in the anglosphere.GW will not make those female eldar faces conventionally attractive.I’m not sure why to be exactly but I doubt it is because they lack the sculpting talent and plastic model tech for it.
>>98593291No.
>>98593334Bogposter here. You got me good there.It’s so stupid and gw probably would be dumb enough to do it. I doubt the normies would cause a shitstorm but it would be funny.
>>98592438>>98592694Did you boys not read the post, or what?
>>98593282This looks like some gay anime shit I'd watch
>>98593347>Bogposter hereHow's the swamp, Shrek?
>>98593337They *can* make atteactive female faces. Whether their painters can actually make use of it is something else entirely.
>>98593367The swamp beats the homeless infested streets of Canada.I hope I can find some good shrek stls and 40k ogryn stls to make a joke model like shrek ogryn.Or ork shrek. Whichever is more fitting.I miss Shrek memes. I harped on being a farquaad as a joke when I was a kid even though it was a kid safe version of “fuckwad.”
Had my game vs. Grey Knights, I suffered my biggest defeat this edition hands down. I barely scored any primary (Take & Hold vs. Priority Assets), and the secondaries were all difficult to complete early on. I played aggressive, as stuff was just coming down on my side but during the process I forgo scoring my missions, thinking I'd get them later which I didn't.
>>98593382Honestly I think they can. PR guys or some other department don’t like it so when we do get attractive female faces and they are painted to be attractive they become rare examples.I’m not sure how rare or if they are still “exceptions that prove the rule” in that they’re like accidentally attractive.
>>98593393I hope you had fun anon.Especially considering that you actually had painted terrain and models making you above so many of us.
>>98593347>GW tries to be diverse and inclusive in making their evil ratman army>Accidentally delves into some of the deepest and most ancient forms of racism out thereI'm here for it.
>>98593402You forgot the next steps:>posts about how this hobby has bigots that aren’t allowed in warhammer when called out on their bigoted models and rat men lore>comments disabled on all social media
>>98592903the anon doth protest too much, methinks
>>98593382You can genuinely save a lot of the female face sculpts, but the GW paint jobs are atrocious at painting women to look like women instead of "smaller men" with the accents and colorationsThe Retributor Superior with a 5 o'clock shadow is the best example of thisSome sculpts are just awful though, the Canoness has a head that can only be described as a black dude wearing a wig. It has a man's jawline and a man's cheekbones, you can't even hide behind the "black women have more manly faces" excuse.
>>98593400It was a blast. I play take and hold as that's what Host locks you into but if I was playing "Purge" I'd be a happier person. The Rockgrinder and the Mining Laser Ridgerunner took down three Nemesis Dreadnights almost by themselves. I wish I had played it better but it is what it is.
>>98593299>they don’t have the freedom that a round provides.It's been 11 years when will this meme end? The shape is irrelevant, the important part is the base size. TOW increased the base sizes and has even more surface area than the round bases.
>>98593250>deeper meaningI think there is deeper meaning like how warhammer 40k fans insert themselves into every other fictional fandom ever.It happened with rwby x warhammer. Star Wars discussion always has it in the comments.It was like horse style redrawings of any fictional character and more being unavoidable on any fictional nerd thing google search.
I'd got some termies, and I figured I could use them for a game of spacehulk. Don't have genestealers but I have a printer. Anyone knows where I could get some GSC scans? Specifically the jean thieves and if possible a patriach/broodlord. Much appreciated amigos
>>98593393Hilarious how every Grey Knights player I have ever encountered uses those ugly baby carriers
>>98593443Glad you had fun.I need to search harder for Goliath rock grinder dozer blades stls or close enough variants of them for guard tanks.If chatgpt or Gemini succeed where I failed I will be happy and scared at how useful they can be.
>>98593382>See that model>Not a DEldar guy so haven't kept up on them at all>Look up her official artHoly fucking shit. I don't think I've ever seen a model mog the art this hard before. That looks like an actual man.
>>98593441>Retributor SuperiorI've seen a lot of the Sisters models saved by good paintjobs, but never that specific head. I think that one may just be a stinker.
>>98593447>Genestealers fighting terminatorsnot canon following the new stat changes
>>98593472>saved by good paintjobsI mean even the Catachan face sculpts can be saved by good paintjobs too.If excessive effort is needed like actual golden demon or commissioned professional painter then something is wrong.
>>98593444>The shape is irrelevant,It kinda matters when you are designing models to be ranked up. Even then sometimes centerpieces and characters look odd when lonesome on a square.
>>98593475>canon>current edition
>>98593447On Telegram you can find the scans of the OG Spacehulk Genestealers.
>>98593447Get into the piracy app.And make sure you have an external hard drive for storing those files. They will build up fast.>terminators gw genestealersI’m surprised the primaris lore wankery didn’t say they could keep the marines safe from the radiation of space hulks.Unless I’m wrong and they actually do. Do mechanicus board and salvage space hulks? I’m curious whether there are human colonies on space hulks but if there are there is probably sci-fi babble about how a mcguffin they protect keeps the radiation down so they can survive.
eldar vehicles look so elegant and slick and then there's this thing
>>98593453I wish they used more of them because Purifiers & Castellan Crowe hurt like a bitch. Whereas a baby carrier couldn't even kill 5 Genestealers by himself.
>>98593506Badass desu
>>98593506every faction needs a retarded vehicle
>>98593496A new app must have been hopefully found as GW now purges them.I hope telegram gets owned where dmca can’t interfere so I can have my stls in peace.
finished my warp spiders
Off to a much better start this game. Going first really helps. Killed two dominion units, knocked two of the immolators down to low wounds, and battle shocked two of the objective holders which is a big deal in take&hold mirror. SoB's LD7 didn't fare well against the Neurotyrant enhanced Shadow and 5 units failed, including Junith's unit.Nids score 2 primary, and hold on to Assassinate and Burden for a future turn. With 4 objectives selected for Burden, two units dead, the entire nid army move+advanced, and half their army battle shocked, the SoB have an uphill battle going in to their turn 1. Exciting!
>>98593512>a new appI mean the gram is basically known by gw and hopefully a new one has been found and the gram is just the “filter.”
The rogue trader version with the eldar hanging from it like dr octopus looks better imo
>>98593506I fully believe that model is going to be sent to legends eventually and replaced with a dinosaur.
>>98593472The Retributor Superior (pic related is the GW paintjob) is a bit man-ish as a sculpt (very large chin), but the biggest sin on it in particular is how they painted it.Women have softer facial features than men, so need less accents to highlight them.Women do not get 5 o'clock shadow or facial hair at all, they do not need shading to represent either.It looks "fine" on the sprue (again, large chin) but still workable; you can find a picture of the head on the sprue if you look around a bit online. GW just can't paint women.
>>98593522I hope not, it's my favorite vehicle in the whole game
>>98593503>they build up fast>40Gb of compressed filesNot wrong>piracy appI've got torrent but most of my stuff is either directly from friends or a drop here, I should get onto that telegram biz to see what the fuss is all about>>98593496I'm thinking the new multipart kit, but these would be great to spruce things up, especially the guys coming out of the ground and climbing
>>98593447>tfw Genestealers, the natural enemy of the terminator won't be able to wound Terminators on anything other than a 5+ soon
Straken wipIt's been a good sunday for painting
>>98593445It’s not a real comment, he took that from my Reddit account to mock me.
>>98593506eldar walker aspect warriors when?
>>98593526can always lop the head off and get one of those 3d printed heads from etsy
>>98593533No shot that they don't get buffed too. Orks and marines got buffed, chaos marines are confirmed for buff, the rest will follow.
>>98593532>I'm thinking the new multipart kitI got that one and everything is monopose, the only thing you can change are the heads as to whether you want Ymgarl Genestealers or not. I suppose you can cut down the pegs that attach the arms to the torso but that's about it. I'd like to have 10 more but I'm not sure.
>>98593546I can't wait to wait two years in order to not get raped by horrific power creep. Also they're only going to get +1 strength when they should be wounding termies on 3s minimum
>>98593547>it's not actually multipartWell fuck, but if I got the scans I'd be free to correct that mistake.>choice of headsNot bad, I have DA and SW termies, maybe BAs and RG later (depending on GW releases), so why not different broods of pant robbers? Could have a 2v2 game
>>98593526>Shouts praises to the Emperor in a Dr. Girlfriend voice
>>98593541There's an alt head in the kit and alt heads for the rest of the squad, so you don't even need to do that. Just use a different head that's more effete, that one is just ugly. The kit has like 23 heads for 5 people.GW makes good female heads for guard squads (in that they actually look female), they can very easily do better heads for SoB.
>>98593526>that book handI wonder how hard it'd be to kitbash something close to picrel. I'll add retributors to my purchase list.
>>98592367The prices were honestly retarded>>98593286Like? All my most hated designs come from 8ed (mortis/cauldron of blood) but it also got fantastic minis, like the whole ogre range which is a 10/10 for me.
>>98593537Try painting eyes black first and then dot in the whites with a toothpick. You've fallen for the "proper" way of doing white then black iris, googly eyes
>>98593564You should have Retributors in your SoB list anywayA 5-woman jump-out squad of multi-meltas that can run up the field with an Immolator (also equipped with multi-meltas) is very strong as a "kill that thing NOW" option when paired with most of the SoB character options.Heavy bolters are also a decent option for them, assuming GW buffs heavy and storm bolters to keep up with Bolt Rifles.
