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Zeta Set edition

Previous: >>98530299

>News & Reminders
Badgermole Cub, Stormchaser's Talent and Gran-Gran are banned in Standard
The Hobbit is out
Arena Direct: The Hobbit August 28-September 6; win up to two The Hobbit Play boxes
In-game player reporting has been added to the game
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-august-10-2026
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/announcements-august-24-2026

>Useful Links
https://pastebin.com/QFA0hqaA

>TQ
What vidya do you play besides Arena?
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Your go.
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Bilbo, Thief in the Night has some disgusting interactions with adventures, if you have one in the graveyard you can cast the sorcery/instant side with his trigger, and since it doesn't go to the graveyard you can cast the creature side (for 1 less) and continue like that

>>98593388
TQ: currently nothing but usually games like Factorio (see /egg/ on /vg) or puzzle games (Baba Is You, Fez, etc.)
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>t1
plains
>t2
plains, skyward spider
>t3
plains, ethereal armor, seam rip
yyyyyep
that's a concede
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>>98594032
standard is a fun format innit
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>>98594075
I'm not sure in what universe is a 2/2 with ward 2 and flying as long as it's got an enchantment balanced for 2cmc
that's at least 3 mana
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>>98593663
Ended up at 7-1 (yeah I'm ranked silver so it doesn't mean much, gives the same rewards though)

>>98594032
missing a Optimistic Scavenger on T1
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>>98594032
There's this thing called removal
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>>98594598
I play mono blue tho
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>Can't inspect cards in my collection on iOS
WTF
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>>98594605
Sounds like a you problem. Do you think you're too special to have bad match ups?
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>>98594630
Yes, I am.
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Wait Strixhaven draft is actually goated??? (Got 5 bombs and tons of manafixing so its just 4c goodslop)
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>>98594075
I dont actually remember the last time standard wasn't a turn 3 format.
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>>98597523
7-1 run and only loss was to a very slow start mull to 5 with no manafixing and opponent having perfect curve. Hopefully Reality Fracture won't have this insane mana fixing because I kind of hate formats that focus on pairs or wedges that easily devolve into 4c or 5c.
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>>98594598
remove... what? the might as well be hexproof faggot creature that's 3/3 so can't be removed with, say, a Stab?
The one that's going to ACTUALLY be hexproof on t4 because of sheltered by ghosts?
Oh you mean removing the enchantments, surely? And then what, play off tempo as this nigger draws more and more shit into the board?
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>>98599152
tehehehe, nothing personal
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Nevermind Strixhaven kind of sucks if you don't get bombs that make splashing worth it, or decent mana fixing.
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didn't play for the last couple days but still got top 1200 mythic
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based wotc mocking paypigs with pigs for sale
(maybe i'll let you win the next game wotc employeed)
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>>98594032
There's basically nothing that please me more than starcaging these fuckers
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>>98601562
im happy things are going well for you in life
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>>98600828
Just build Boros my nigga. The amount of gems I’m farming with the SOS draft is absolutely disgusting, by far the sealed/draft set that I’ve mastered the most in recent years.
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>>98604175
man being top mythic absolutely implies the opposite of that
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Drafting is hard hahaha
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>>98605192
This but unironically
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>>98593388
>What vidya do you play besides Arena?
Anybody else here remember Wagic? Been considering getting back into it
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>Play a single card
>Die
Tough luck, pal. Should have played around my turn 2 cheese combo :^)
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>>98605192
now at 3 trophies in a row forcing blue
everyone is told to fight over the red black deck so the cards are easy to get.
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>>98605664
Explain
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>>98605776
It's just cheese; you either win on turn 2~4 or you lose. Not consistent, but the games are quick. Pretty nice to get 4 daily wins and finish some quests
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>spend a draft token on LOTR draft over the weekend
>draft pretty solid BR aggro pile
>lose game 1 to hard mana screw
>win game 2 pretty easily, opp was some simic scry value shitpile
>almost lose game 3 to color screw, draw a mountain the exact turn I needed one and end up running the guy over
>stop playing because I desperately want 3+ wins for the gemmies and I'm worried I'm going to tilt
>come back today for a few more draft games
>very first match is against unironic esper control
>the mere presence of that shit in draft tilts me

I kinda wanted to spend both of my tokens on LOTR since I heard it was a solid set, given that black is op, but at this rate I'm not sure I'll even have time.
is DMU a good draft set for someone that's not into draft, or should I save my tokens to dump into FRA opening week
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>>98605980
we are saving for FRA
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>>98605980
here's the deck btw
got like 4 B or higher black cards right off the bat and wasn't sure if I was going to be BW or BR, maybe I could've gone RW. I don't recall how many good white cards I got passed later on
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I haven't played since around duskmourn, has there been anything in particular worth burning wildcards on for a historic/timeless RDW deck?
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>>98605980
if there are no formats you're really into then save it for peak magic (aka drafting on release day of a new set)
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>>98606519
>no formats you're really into
I have no idea if there are formats I'm into, I don't run drafts beyond what I absolutely have to to get 2200 gems per pass to not give jotc any money
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>>98604262
I felt like I got a decent WR with black splash for a couple Silverquil Charms the other day but basically didn't see the other 50% of my deck and only managed 4-3. In my experience it's always UR or URG that feel harder to take down even if WR or WB is considered the best.
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>hovering over my cards

I fucking hate this feeling.
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>>98605749
trophied 4/5 drafts today forcing blue lol
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>There's a hole in your plan.
>Oops.
>Nice deck!
>When nature calls, run.
>There's a hole in your plan.
>Oops.
>Nice deck!
>When nature calls, run.
>There's a hole in your plan.
>Oops.
>Nice deck!
>When nature calls, run.
>There's a hole in your plan.
>Oops.
>Nice deck!
>When nature calls, run.
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what do you guys think urza is doing right now
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>>98594032
I just scoop as soon as I see someone drop their first plains you fags have become less fun to play against that blue even
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>>98607383
You forgot
>lands and I right
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>>98593388
*extends hand*
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>>98608171
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRR
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Your regular turn 4 in Badger Banned Green, vs Kona Faggotry.
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>tutor for a card
>don't play it
>leave 2 mana open
>"JEEZ I wonder what that could be"
>opponent completely kills himself with channel to cast le behemoth
>finds out
I know monoG players are usually bots but come on

>>98608171
>watch opponent ramp up like a good boy
>"Lands, am I right?" into Armageddon
gets 'em every time
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>>98607348
Then stop getting upset over it.
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>>98607365
5/6 trophies.
woke up to a 7-0 first picking blue commons.
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>>98609690
6/7 trophies, same deck every time.
except this one's curve stopped at 3.
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>>98607348
I assume if they have to read the card than there is no way they are going to counter what I'm going to do with it.
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>>98594032

It's the only cheap deck that can win (no rares or mythics required). The fuck else are people meant to play?
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I wish they brought a good draft format back such as Final Fantasy or basically nothing other than Final Fantasy
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>>98610079
7/8
started out BR then took every blue card at the table. can't lose. feels great.
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>>98610505
Return to Ravnica
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>>98610428
homebrew your own fucking deck you nigger
why would I want to win with an autopilot netdeck
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>>98611250
show me yours
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>>98611387
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>>98611415
oof I actually spot at least 8 rare WCs here...
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>play a standard unranked game to test deck
>get a good seven draw
>opponent takes 2 minutes to decide whether to mulligan or play, usually i'd have scooped by now but I really wanna play that hand
>finally playing
>turn one bandit's talent
>turn two bandit's talent
>turn three psychic whorl
yeah kill yourself fucking dog
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>>98611507
>turn one bandit's talent
how tf did they pull this off
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>>98611521
CRAZY STUFF
I mean what the fuck ever i'm so PISSED OFF i'm MAKING SHIT UP!@!!!!
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>>98610692
it keeps going
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>>98611947
Damn how many gems has this netted you so far?
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>>98611947
get a life
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>>98611507
Mono-black? That was me.
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>>98603904
It's even better to do it during their combat phase by copying it with Three Steps.
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Out of all the things they could have changed in the entire game they changed the font. Lmao. Really guys? Faggots.
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>>98611250
>homebrew your own fucking deck you nigger

And lose? No thanks.
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>play Secluded Courtyard
>"Ninja"
>opponent concedes

This just happened TWICE in a row. Why do faggots get so butthurt about Ninjas? Just play it out, goddamn.
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>>98613957
>netdeck metaslave
Go play Hearthstone, queer.
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I would make fun of paper players for the Zeta bullshit and in general all the FOMO bait they keep taking, but there's definitely a lot of whales throwing money at Arena despite being full of bugs and exploitative as hell.

>>98613727
I think that might be a side effect of whatever they updated with Unity one week ago.
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>>98614284
Playing games out is so 2020 anon also quit playing faggot decks
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>>98593388
>fucking 1 hr wait
>line paused
>15 munute wait
>5 minute wait
>under 1 minute wait
>sold out
These fucking niggers
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>>98615380
lol, lmao even.
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>>98615380
>opponent vomits removals every turn
>still loses

I'm sure most of you cunts play this way, too.
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>>98615703
I play mono red aggro on arena because of faggots like these
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Rakdos is where it's at.
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>>98610428
Spelelmentals deck is close. Only Sunderflock and lands are gold. Ironically it looses against enchantments. Veteran Survivor + Soul-Guide Lanterns are poison for it.
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Reinstalled played for one day and uninstalled. Shit game.
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>>98616114
luv me rakdos
luv me goblins
luv me blight
simple as
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>>98611250
Then win with your homebrew deck :)
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>>98615703
You say that like spamming removal every turn isn't an auto lose strategy.
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>>98616495
>win with your homebrew deck

What a load of bollocks. There is no homebrew! You play whatever wotc gives you. Lessions, it's set design. Landfall, they just printed more and more landfall cards until it became goat. Lifelink, printing better and better lifelink cards and banning Hopeless Nightmare. Jeskike, printing Tablet to enable it. Tribals, printing tribal cards. Netdecks are just people making decks out of whatsoever wotc gives them each set. Tokens, forced mechanic that nobody likes. Mobilise, forced set mechanic. Discard, forced set mechanic. Should I go on? There is no originality in deck building, it's just figuring whatever is forced each set, and figuring if they made it too strong or too weak to play with. They tried equipments this time, but it's still shit, since you can just kill units as equipments are attached to it, and you're left with spent mana and cards that do nothing on the battlefield.
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>>98617175
Someone disagrees with you, and all that you can manage is that you don't quote his post with a feeble post. Pathetic.
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>>98617268
Bodied that freak back to the shadow realm
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>>98616175
Talking about spelelmentals. If you want some flavour. Unlocked Monica is elemental... With Misty Mountains or Death to our Enemies for mana source you don't even need to splash for white to get her. Remember, she's late game drop, don't bother with 3 mana Monica, unless you're dropping removal decoy.
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Does anyone actually read the cards in this game? Most times Jin-Gitaxias is out, someone plays a spell that gets countered, THEN reads the card and decide to ragequit.
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would hanging every shitskin, slitting all tranny throats, and gassing every kike on the planet ruin wotc's business model?
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I don’t even play with landfall fags anymore just scoop and play someone else I doubt they get the hint but hopefully. I refuse to believe anyone finds piloting that braindead shit fun. The dumb lion/cat bullshit gets the same treatment
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>queued 4 times before Yargle before the text changed to phantom draft
FUCK
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>>98616943
trvke bomb
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>>98611956
at least +6000 gems in the last couple days, trophied 9/11 runs with blue.
getting bored of the format though. it's about time to uninstall until the next new set to draft comes out.
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>>98618335
Nice story champ, blue sucks in this set.
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>>98617819
it just means more Marvel sets
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Think I've about had it with Arena. I like mtg but I just can't seem to get out of bronze. The last 3 matches have been god awful. Fucking dinosaurs and avatars summoning their entire hand and library like the mana pool is just a suggestion. I'll just buy a proxy deck and play with people in my local gaming bar.
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>>98618430
Post your deck
for real though
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>>98618430
But. Rare. Lands.
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>>98618446
Don't laugh. I like Sidisi.
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>>98618469
remove the temples
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>>98618488
I´ll admit, the effects of the scrying has been middling at best.
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>>98605980
>>98606034
ended up 4-3, beyond tilted because of the rigged shuffler making me lose. at least I hit 3 wins, that's literally the only thing I care about
>went 2nd literally every single game, all 7 of them
>last 2 games got 15 cards deep each game and didn't see a single swamp while only drawing black spells after opening hand

>>98618430
>I'll just buy a proxy deck and play with people in my local gaming bar.
good. arena is rigged as fuck, like every other competitive online game today
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>Take for fun and meme cosmetics-award event that people liked
>Monetize it
JOTC
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>>98618345
shitters (aka MTGA players) say blue sucks because they hear it on social media so I get to take all the blue cards and build the same deck every time for free wins.
just got my 10th trophy out of the 12 runs so far. was forced into black but made sure to take any good blue cards that showed up.
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Thanks for the free win faggot
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>>98618153
Samefag bomb
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hey children, hope mommy tucked you safely in your crib. g'night and don't forget your binky
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>4c
>4c
>3c splash dual lands for Together as One
>THE FUCKING ROCK THE ROCK THE FUCKING ROCK OF ALL DECKS SPLASHING DUAL LANDS FOR TOGETHER AS ONE
3 year standard was such a dogshit mistake I wish I could strangle whoever thought it was a good idea.
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>SOS quick draft
how the fuck was i supposed to play around this
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>>98619485
Using the greatest skill of all; luck.
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>signed up for a Chaos Draft event before it got the text changed
>got a full refund + kept rewards
>signed up for 4 Yargle Day events before it got the text changed
>got a full refund + kept rewards
I quite like getting free shit, gotta admit
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>>98619485
play the all-spells potion deck with so much removal opp never has a creature on board
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>>98619439
also adding a ton of really good dual lands into a single standard
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How we liking the Strixhaven draft? I wasn't around for the release so I have no idea if its good or not
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>>98618469
I see the gameplan here, but you have a ton of cheap cards and lands that are liable to get milled instead of the big shit you want to cheat into the field
Consider the following
>Get rid of Vampiric Rites
>Get rid of Infestation Sage
>Get rid of Forsaken Miner
>Maybe keep Gorehound
>Get rid of the temples
>Get rid of Funeral Room and Rise of the Dark Realms
>Get more copies of the big guys, massacre wurm, Rune Scarred Demon
>Get more millers so you can consistently get them in the graveyard so you can cheat them in
>Consider Deep Cavern Bat and Burglar Rat
You don't have enough consistency, it's better to have 3-4 copies of your win condition than hoping for a . Also, see if you can find anything you can use to discard shit from YOUR HAND. Getting a wurm and a demon in your hand when you only have 4 mana is devastating
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>>98618948
based
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>>98622905
Make it 2W and we'll talk
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>>98622905
this is racist
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I just hate this marvel legendary bs forced on us.

They must have gotten a ton of cash to force it on us, seeing how small and depraved Hobbit is and how so much effort went into marvel bullshittery.
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>>98623191
they gotta print a new one one every UB for limited lmao
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>>98623191
this shit has been happening forever.
EDH is the worst thing to ever happen to MTG for many reasons and legendary bloat is not at the top of the list but it's on there
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I wonder what deck mikey mox will bring to the field
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>>98623483
surprisingly it wasn't a vulvagoth cheat deck
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>have lethal next turn
>exile all creatures
>get lethal next turn
>exile all creatures
xd
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Won epic battle against mill deck. Opponet milled me to one card with Riverchud. Didn't matter, made an epic hate haste attack for win.

>can't show it
>can show thic fucking bugged screen instead.
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>>98622832
Thanks for the advice. I'll try it right away. Bitter triumph is what I use to discard stuff from my hand while getting rid of the annoying enemies.
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>>98623191
And then they use other sets to pump up marvel faggotry.
Dev team must have people threatening them with anal rape to keep printing marvel enabling faggotry into other sets as well
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This seems a bit strong... i thought I had missed a weird 1/1 3x buff. But no, it really is a MV3 5/5 flying creature which only needs you to mill like twice.
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>>98623685
you think well get another marvel set next year?
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>>98623699
>slowpoke award poster
>>98623708
No. We'll get at least two.
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>>98623715
I'm just new.
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>>98623699
You put Eye in graveyard on t1, then you pull it from graveyard on t2 with Helping Hand. Decks around it were good, but not great. They always lacked variety. Helpin Hand doesn't have many good targets besides Eye. Also, Duskmorn was a huge powercurve, so it got lost in up-the-beanstalk -> overlords -> leyline bullshittery. Now it's better to skip white and Helping Hand, and play a fucking Spiderman if you wish to do a mill deck.
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>win like 15 games in a row
>"put a brake on this nigga's win streak" t. niggards of the coast
>literally only draw unplayable hands
Cool!!!
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Not a single good draft set since FF. Turns out when you spend 5 years designing a set, it's actually good, and when you shit out sets in 1-2 years they're boring dogshit. At least Horizons 3 is next week, no hope for Fracture because it's just gonna be SoS 2.0.
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>>98623818
>like 15
You can just say 2.
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>>98624261
done him
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Anytime I play against some absolute bullshit I realize that under 2-year standard it would not exist. Except jeskike/4tranny control, but ideally the bannings would've included tablet and/or the payoff due to more narrow deck options from 2 year.
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>"just run removals"
>"skill issue"
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can you guys please stop shitting the thread up with your incessant newfaggotry? we need more urza and ajani, not you retards
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>>98625037
>he doesn't have the trips filtered
How new are you
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ajani hasn't posted in eons
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he posted in this very thread
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>Baleful Strix is pauper legal
So they will make the wildcard requirement common now, right?
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>>98624955
The dudes who just run all the best cards from standard from the last few years as their brawl decks are insufferable. When you play goofy casual decks you get outvalued to all hell, and when you play decks tuned to the format they rope. There's no winning.
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>>98625306
lol no, historic pauper isn't pauper
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>>98625316
And when they for once don't get a good hand on turn 1 they just concede immediately.
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I'm not even mad anymore when I'm up against Landfall decks. Like, how could I blame anybody for wanting to try this out.
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Id post more but i just dont care about the game right now. Winning or losing the game just feels bad to play. I keep buying the pass playing for a week or two and quitting and lose my gems lol.
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I am so sick of this fucking dwarf screaming like a fag
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You can't convince me control players aren't the most retarded subhumans in the game.

>removal
>removal
>removal
>removal
>big card

Aggro players unironically have to make all these micro decision plays that snowball into beating you down in time while avoiding burning out. Control is literally just mathing "will this kill me" until your big cards. A monkey can play these decks on autopilot.
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>>98625890
wide landfall feels fine I guess
the fucking hydra/ouroboroid shit makes me seethe whenever I see it
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>>98626322
I'm new to the game and am currently trying to build my first red aggro deck. Any pointers and advice? I am kind of tired building a goblin avalanche deck and want to try out something a bit more flashy.
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>>98627148
you can try wizards if you mean standard. Gandalf and the 2 mana plot guy + wizards prowess and burn spells. Hopefully the new set will add some cool wizards with it. And you can go green for questing druid or blue for whatever there if you get enough wildcards
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Lost 15 games in a row with a deck I've grinded to mythic a few months ago, so I know it's rigged. Literally every deck had the perfect answer nearly every turn. JotC can shove it up their kike asses, I'm uninstalling this gay shit.

Go play paper limited and actually have fun.
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>>98627276
which deck?
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this shit is so fucking funny holy shit
millnigger blown the fuck out
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>>98622832
>>98623663
Thanks for the advice, that helped my deck out quite a bit. A second wurm made all kinds of annoying token decks much easier to deal with.
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>>98625890
I built an honest Treefolk landfall deck, slow but once I get multiple Nursery's out it's too big to fail
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>>98627698
...I may need a 3rd deadly cover-up.
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>>98626322
Control right now is way too greedy due to no punishment from running 25 dual lands and like 2 commons.
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>>98627276
>Lost 15 games in a row with a deck I've grinded to mythic a few months ago, so I know it's rigged. Literally every deck had the perfect answer nearly every turn.

Yeah, it's gifting win/losses time right now. Influencers can play outright trash decks and be matched against decks that are weak to them, while ftp players can play best meta, and be matched against perfect response with perfect draw. It goes both ways, though. People are very easy to notice things going against them, while they don't when it's rigging it for them.
I was against a decent delve deck against my dragons jank. Red/white Thor stuff. Dude delved for lands and trash cards constantly, while I got value after value in my hand with no draw engine at all. And then when game stalled, I drew haste dragon from top of my deck for a win.
What's really fucking wrong with all the rigging, is that it's very hard to determine which decks are actually good and which are bad. People still run shit dwarves equipment decks, simply because game is gifting them quality draw that gives them a chance. Was against one dude that had Layline Axe in his hand for all 3 games of bo3. I had full deck of removal for 2nd and 3rd game and he still managed to win one of them, simply because my removal was lost somewhere in my deck.
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>>98627938
we need to bring this nigga back
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>>98627995
This dude should never be banned in the first place.
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>>98627276
>>98627989
You're just bad and stupid.
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>>98628326
Fantastic argument. Mastered classical elocution, I presume?
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>>98627276
see you tomorrow
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>>98628238
why did it get banned in the first place?
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>>98628455
It's not an argument. It's an insult.
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the physical threat of knocking a faggot control queers teeth out is missing from online magic
when will wizards remedy this?
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The naya delirium deck from the fat goth jewtuber is surprisingly fun
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check out this retarded bullshit lmao
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>>98629443
You were offered a chance to present yourself intelligent, and you used it to degrade yourself.
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I wish set constructed was a format.
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>>98629710
>new update: As long as you win against a control deck we will send a pipebomb to the losers mail box.
A man can dream. Also why am I starting to see anti-boardwipe propaganda on my youtube homepage? If JotC wanted me to let the greeny landfall players have fun, then they should buff my necromancy.
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>>98630465
How the hell?
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>>98630465
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>>98625890
bro that's the simic starter deck
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>>98623708
they have to print at least 4 more to finish the infinity stone cycle
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>>98622905
white doesn't get instant speed asymmetric card draw
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>>98631328
And I'm running a black starter deck. Your point?
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>>98628935
Because it already sold enough boxes and they needed to sell the new thing.
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You dick lickers
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You do realize you admit you suck at the game by netdecking. Having to rely on copy pasting a broken deck removes essentially all agency you have in the game. You are just a monkey playing cards as they tell you with the best possible odds you get. You are not playing, the deck is. You are not winning, the deck is. You're pulling the lever on a slot machine.
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>>98631806
show me your deck
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>>98631806
I mean yeah, but that's because I don't really like card games that much as I don't care for deckbuilding at all. Which is like 90% of the game.
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>opp playing 4 color pile in limited
>has 1 of each basic he needs in the first 4 turns
kek
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>>98631806
which deck that you personally created has won any real tournament?
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>>98631806
youre not gonna get through the metafags dude
its what its
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I just want a format that isn't overrun by sweaty faggots running the same cracked cards over and over. Is that too much to ask for? Holy fucking shit.
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>This is the last few months we have to enjoy Bloomburrow and Duskmourn before they rotate out of standard
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>>98634274
nah we got a couple years left
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>>98634206
What deck do you want me to run, anon?
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>>98634206
Just join us in STANDARD brawl and play this deck:
commander: Elspeth
31 x hare apparent
28 x plains
Isn't it fun?
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Feel like I’ve been playing with/against llanowar elves and duress for a decade now when the fuck does stuff cycle out
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>>98634945
Duress has been a card for like 28 years now.

Pic related, my favourite printing. It's how I look every time it's played against me.
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>faggot kikels of the coast give dead hands and draws repeatedly
>nigger pay pigger opponents have perfect ramo and amswers to any play I make
not enough despicable tranny hebes know they are a google search away from justice
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>>98634368
They rotate out January 1. 2027.
Foundations rotate out in 2029, but Edge of Eternities, FF, Turtles, and Aetherdrift, rotate already in 2028. Yeah, I really don't know how that works.

This dude will be out for a year, while Hydra will still be standard legal.
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>>98635313
Eh, not Turtles, Spiderman.

https://mtg-standard.com/rotation
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Would the earth bending decks be more balanced if the land-cum-creature cards went to the graveyard instead of back to the field when destroyed?
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>>98631806
>you filthy netdeckers reeeee
You sound just like this retarded boomer cunt i used to own at fnm 20 years ago lmao. Have fun being a shitter while i win actual cash value prizes NIGGER.
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>>98634206
started playing ranked last month postbans and two of the first decks i went against in bronze were monogreen landfall (won against both with stw btw)
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>>98635586
kind of gets around the only weakness manlands have ever had, so probably
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>>98635586
>>98637180
Instead of dying they should become tapped and stop being a creature. No leave or enter triggers would balance it fine. They can still be exiled and bounced as a hoser too.
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>>98637286
>earthbend Fabled Passage
>sacrifice Fabled Passage
>Fabled Passage returns as Fabled Passage
>get a free land

1+1=3
Working as intended, lmao
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>>98628935
To enable braindead lifelink players to play their beginners deck.

There was never anything wrong with Screaming Nemesis. 3 drop. Can lock out lifelink, but it must be dealt damage for that to happen. There are many drawbacks to it. Casting player may target it with Burst Lightning, but if it's destroyed or exiled by a removal spell before that, nothing happens, casting player even wastes mana and a spell to do that. It was possible to win with lifelink decks against it. Lifelink players can ignore it, they can gain enough life that 3 damage per turn isn't much. But WOTC faggots just thought it's better to keep lifelink as untouchable.
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>>98637541
>But WOTC faggots just thought it's better to keep lifelink as untouchable.
kek I didnt even think of this, thats what almost every new player plays. Maybe they should of thought of that before printing it but who knows what goes on in their heads
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>>98637500
Whatever man it if the land is sacrificed it just dies then are you happy you fucking little nerd?
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>>98637700
yeah that would be nice
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>>98634274
I always see Bandit's Talent, Stormchaser's until it was banned, and occasionally Hunter's and Caretaker's Talent

What about the other Talents?
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>>98637872
scavengers is played in pioneer but I don't imagine it ever had a place in standard
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>>98637872
Artists Talent in monored burn decks, maybe?
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>>98637937
There's a Thor red deck with a splash of white that utilises it. It also fits in black red discard deck with Monument of Endurance.
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Why are jizzet players always only playing Traumatic Critique as draw/discard card engine? I've not seen one played any other way.
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>>98638561
its a 2 mana draw 2 discard 1 with upside. Do you mean why dont they make 20 treasures and send it all face?
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>>98638590
Just save it for a turn to kill a creature with it, maybe? Or a plainwalker... It is any target, after all. They're not even targeting 1/1's with it, when there's a chance.

Talking abut treasures. Just had this moron spent twelve minutes building this elf army, only to see one birb and one dragon fly over it for a kill, owing to some treasures, lmao.
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>>98638774
casting it on turn 2 or 3 for 0 can let you play that elemental a turn or 2 sooner, which lets you sunderflock a turn sooner. even killing a llanowar elf on turn 3 feels super shit with it. But late game you can, sure
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Not sure why I'm seeing nothing but this faggot card all day today
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>>98639041
sexo
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Modern is unironically in a really interesting space right now
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>>98639424
yeah mh3 scam + reanimate is fuckin SICK
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>>98639491
Scam hasn't been a deck for like 3 years
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>>98634206
you either get like me and dont give a fuck or get into pauper
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>>98639776
I had the Tezzeret Avatar from a while back, but for some reason I lost it. How do I get it back?
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>>98639811
damn no idea
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>>98623699
>>98623801
I thought the manifest mechanic was super cool and been tweaking an Esper Oculus desk as of recent. But I'm currently not using Helping Hand. I have a few other ways of getting it in and out of the graveyard.

I can use Ral Zarek, Guest Lecturer to either gamble surveilling it or targeting myself for the discard. Then I can use Ral again to bring it back. Or bring it back immediately when playing Ral if it already hit the graveyard from using Bitter Triumph, a Balemurk mill, or a targeted force mill. I also have Likeliness Looter which I can use to discard it and copy it from the graveyard. I splashed in white for Practice Offense but the Mountain-king's Return has.

The perfect start for me is:
>T1
Moonshadow
>T2
Impend Balemurk. Mill an Oculus
>T3
Ral and spend his loyalty to get Oculus back
>T4
Manifest into another Moonshadow or Oculus

A great deck or the most efficient? No, but it's fun. Thanks for letting me be autistic about my deck.
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>>98639923
>T1
>Moonshadow
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Messing around with this online and in paper, just won a challenge but i think the ratios need a BIT more work.

Any thoughts on Jund Sac in Bo3?
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>>98631035
You write like a brownskin with a big ego.
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>>98637601
>thats what almost every new player plays
Probably because it takes the least amount of rares.
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>>98639923
Yooo the game sucks dick but thats really cool alt art
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>11 gb update
I hope this means there's a lot of new content!
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Fourth turn he has omniscience out, I don't even have a fourth land yet.
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Sorry but the reality fracture lands look like shit.
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I, for one, am excited to see landfalls decks with a whole new set of green cards that care about nothing but landfall (because that is all this color does anymore)
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>>98643514
I like green because it has ramp and elves and if I get an archdruid in it lets me vomit my entire hand on the board
and then it gets boardwiped and I concede
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>shit lands
>no rotation
>fucking empower jace
get me outta here
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There's a particular event I as a black player is waiting for, and that usually includes an opposing token summon deck or another black deck. And that event is when both me and my opponent has 20 units each just busting it down with no thoughts or cares. Right now It doesn't matter how far ahead my opponent is. When I pull that Rise from the Darkness-card, they concede - even if they still would have had a good chance of winning(it happened once with a blue deck my opponent was running). And that sucks.
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>opponent playing self mill
Jesus I respect the homebrew jank but at least give yourself a fighting chance it’s hard enough to be dealt the right cards but now you’re hoping to be dealt the right cards AND mill the right cards
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>>98644439
Heart of the cards, baybe!
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Reading an old comic that featured MtG before it went with it's own game after around Vol.7 and I have to ask...

...what the hells did Kokujo play here? I tried to find some hits with the given name, but no dice.
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>>98644784 (Cont.)
I also found it pretty funny that Shobu mained a Sliver Deck in Vol.1.
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>>98644784
https://scryfall.com/card/tmp/142/living-death
the translator translated the japanese name instead of using the english card name.
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>>98644806
Yeah, I think said translator did a smidge more research later on.
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>>98644439
I always feel bad for the clearly playing-for-fun days
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>All 5 colors will have Jace Tokens surveilling and drawing cards for them
And here I thought Magic couldn't possibly get worse.
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Is mh3 draft fun
Will i get btfo'd and lose gemmies if i try it?
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Lol they really just dumped Hymn, Bauble, and Comet on Historic for no fucking reason. Fuck you, WotC.
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>hexhaven invigorator
Lets make landfall even more cancerous :)
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I really hate midweek Momir
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I like midweek momir
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Can you repeat midweek Momir?
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>>98647346
Nope you only get to play one game of it
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>Get a creature that makes a Treasure token
>Nice, I can use this to roll ahead of the curve
>Opponent gets Ouroboroid
FUCK MOMIR
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>>98647546
My favorite is ramping into a creature that makes you lose the game.
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I don't plan, I don't activate creature abilities, I don't fish for broken creatures with a consistent mana cost; I spend the maximum amount of mana every turn and if my creatures die I lose the game.
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>opponent gets a 2/3 for 2
>I get a 2/2, can't block
>opponent gets a 3/4 for 3
>I get a 2/3, can't block
>opponent gets a 4/4 flier
>I get a 3/3 flier
It's that simple
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>boss! people hate our UB marvel sets!
>no problems, girls. we'll make them hate in universe sets even more!
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>faggotkike trannies running 3+ colros in draft
>i draw exclusively lands for one color and playable cards in another
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>>98649428
you buy any gems recently anon?
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Does storm work well without desperate ritual I don’t want to waste wcs on jeska’s will
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>>98649708
what does splicing it do? im confused
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>>98649460
no
I didn't dilate a festuring, neo-pussy made from ingrown hairs and colon discharge that I dont have either
I didn't violate the geneva convention over zero coon-brained impulse control I don't exhibit as well
in addition I didn't participate in new born adrenochrome blood libel rituals for the worship of baal in a synagogue
why do you ask, do all these things have something in common with blatantly rigged deck draws?
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>>98649708
Yeah ruby storm got an upgrade not long ago with hex magic
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>>98649901
uhh idk about all that man, spend money get good draws simple as
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You know, $50 for the Mastery pass and 20 packs is a really good deal
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>>98593388
Ugliest Secret Lair set ever
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>>98650204
kill yourself
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So, low key, WotC are basically admitting that Jace was the cancer killing MtG all along?
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>freed Bolas AND Emrakul
At least Norn/Yawgmoth are still dead...
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>1 land hand
>mulligan
>1 land hand
>mulligan
>another fucking one lander
fuck off rosewater, I'm not buying gems.
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I caved and crafted izzat prowess.
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>>98654585
it's fun
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>>98654585
in pioneer?
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>>98654656
yeah, literally the first game i played i btfo'd my opponent easily.
>>98654660
yes.
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>>98654695
you play the one that splashes green or no? Looks interesting but i am wildcard poor
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>>98655490
/mtgag/ is an endstep.cc general.
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why the fuck do I waste my time rage-queueing this game
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>>98593660
good night sweet prince
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>>98605866
at least its quick. not like having to play against this shit where you get to watch your opponent play solitaire for 20 minutes and hope they brick and miss their mathemagics, traumatic critique, thor, etc
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>>98607383
>spend more than 2 seconds making a decision
Your go.
Your go.
Your go.
Your go.
Your go.
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>See you next week!
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>goyf's back
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>>98628935
when did he get banned?
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>>98655837
ahh thats why i never noticed he got banned, my red deck was never standard it was alchemy (mainly for the raid bombardments which arent in standard)
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>>98637872
I use Innkeeper's Talent in my badgermole/ouroboroid deck
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>>98655824
Seriously, what's the point of reprinting this?
>Hey 'member when we hadn't powercrept everything so much and vanilla creatures were playable?
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>alchemy retired
fucking faggots ruined historic and my wildcards just to abandon it LOL
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Alchemy is dead
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Will I get WCs when they ban Ring (and eventually bowmaster) in historic?
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>>98657739
seconding this, should be the case no?
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>>98657684
does that mean they'll start adding the other paper formats?
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>azoriqueer tranny

>full control
>stops all phases
>emote spam
>touch spam
>tap out all lands
>reported for name, hatespeech, and inactivity (ME DRAW U GO is not playing the game)
yup, it's faggot punishment time
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>>98657684
Only five years too late for me to give a shit.
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>>98657684
A lot of bans incoming for historic
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>>98658408
free wildcards, yay
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I just like putting removal draw and creatures in a deck and move around the ratios until I start winning
Currently playing a bant fliers deck
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>>98658421
one ring, sorin, probably at least guide of souls, maybe ocelot pride, nadu
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Good riddance to Symmetry Sage and all, but putting Cutter, Bowmasters, and Minsc & Boo in Historic is gross negligence. They prebanned fucking Galvanic Discharge and not Lurrus?
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>>98659108
they gon gib me dem wildcards
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>>98658602
true but alchemy fucking sucks
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>1 drop uncommon, vigilance, reach, deathtouch
Shit like this is 50% of what’s wrong with the game (the other 45-50% being landfall and tokens of course). Just shove 3-4 in your deck why the fuck would you play anything else? At least make obnoxious flagrantly obnoxious shit like this legendary so you can’t just deck-jam and drop multiple muh do everything outclass everything card
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>>98659541
that card is not even playable what are you on about
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My boy is free!
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>>98659638
fuck jewzards of the coast
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>>98659638
What will a cat deck look like in historic? I assume it would have to be very different from the pioneer one
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>>98659744
Back when timeless first dropped I had a mardu list that was actually pretty effective before the format got some of the really powerful cards. It had a lot in common with the energy lists, but without the energy cards and some lifegain and sacrifice synergy in its place. The flip Sorin's -1 can finish someone out of nowhere. It will miss Ajani, but I'm pretty confident something playable can be put together.
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Should I craft the soon to be un-alchamey'd Sorin because it will get banned or what
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>>98657684
They really 9-11'd Alchemy on 9/11
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>try ixalan draft on a sudden whim despite no knowledge of the set
>don't bother to research anything or even take proper note of what the archetypes are, just get on with it
>rare in pack 1 is a big red dinosaur who seems alright so end up drafting a gruul dino deck
>unexpectedly go 7-2, only the second time I've ever reached 7 wins, with the only losses being to other gruul dino decks
Was that just the set's overpowered archetype or something, or did I just do a very good of my impulsive late-night yolo draft? Didn't seem like anything in particular that I had constituted a serious bomb, but maybe I'm underrating the significance of simply being large and having trample. I'd expected to be punished for being so greedy with my big creatures but if those matches were representative it must be a pretty slow set.
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>>98657684
How about you put all the fucking pioneer cards in the game that claims to have a fucking pioneer format so I can actually play my fucking pioneer deck
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>>98605664
>>98605866
Nice - I've recently been developing a golgari trudge (plus similar cards) deck for pioneer, it actually seems genuinely promising. Unfortunately it's not properly playable in arena, there are one or two key cards they've not bothered implementing.
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>>98659849
What's the point of crafting something in anticipation of a ban? You're converting a wildcard into a card in the hope (an uncertain one) that it'll get turned back into a wildcard. You just want to take it for a spin while it's probably effectively free?
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>>98661689
It works on cards banned in standard, since you can still play them in other formats.
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>>98661852
Ah, I see
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>>98658602
>literally no reason to play this anymore
Don't your arena gems put you in the top 10% of brazilians?
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>>98661689
Sorin is still playable in timeless and the elenda pairing is easily splashed into any black deck with dark ritual in it
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>>98662246
you really think that shitter goes positive on gems?
only the drafters do that on MTGA
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You might think Alchemy is dead, but just you wait, the geniuses over in Arena R&D are brewing up one last Hydroponics Architect to shit up every format with. I've never seen such a bizarre combination of spite and incompetence in a TCG before.
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>>98663137
>Just Jace my Shit Up
>Empower Jace 3
>Then Conjure a Jace Planeswalker card into your hand
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>>98663309
Not digital enough! We must do more!

>jace my shit up
>empower jace 3
>conjure jace planeswalker into hand
>reduce all mana of jace cards by 2 blue
>draw random power nine card
>flip two coins if both land head you win game
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>>98657684
BASED
A
S
E
D
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>guy plays bristly bill
>removed Vibrant Outburst
>guy plays ouroboroid
>removed with Broadside Barrage
>guy plays another ouroboroid
>removed Broadside Barrage
>guy plays another ouroboroid
>flashback Broadside Barrage, he bounces it back into his hand, "I can do this all day"
>guy plays ouroboroid with some other card under it
>flashback Broadside Barrage
>he concedes
ABSOLUTE CINEMA
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>nigger playing the most autopilot deck possible and still taking like 30 seconds per turn
just throw your cards on the board lil bro
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>>98661257
I think trample (and flying) are super valuable in draft
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remove all alchemy cards from the game when you remove the format faggots, also (besides fetches) what is the difference in timeless and historic anymore? just a banlist?
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