Remember when they promised they would give the guy an entire animation studio to do official shorts?
>>98593659No.
no
>>98593659Who the fuck are you talking about?
>>98593659Squatted
proof you don't need a good plot or characters to make a popular short film in 2026, you just need the Warhammer brand or some other IP and retards will eat it up.
>>98593692that short is better than even high budget movies.
>>98593698no it's not, you're delulu.
>>98593698kill yourself
>>98593706Name something better, and explain how it's better
>>98593659It was immediately suspect because they're gw and so worthless, and as seemingly nothing was produced the probable case seems that they were angry he'd made them look bad by doing their job better independently but couldn't c&d him without admitting that so they sat him there doing nothing
>>98593757The Aeon Flux shorts and they're better because we get a sense of who the characters are and their strange relations without a single line of dialogue. There's also tons of badass action in the final short that puts warhammer slop to shame.
>>98593659>>98593698Death of Hope was so much better than this trash.
>>98593773he did the Extra Credits thing, didn't he?
>>98593800>they're better because we get a sense of who the characters are and their strange relations without a single line of dialogue.Same with this.>>98593800>There's also tons of badass action in the final short that puts warhammer slop to shame.How
>>98593800>comparing Aeonflux to 40kNigger what are you doing? They're entirely different unless you ignore the majority of material and only use absurdly abstracted descriptions.
>>98593891>asked to name something better>name something better>wait wtf?!
>>98593935I didn't ask for shit but your basis of comparison is so fucked its obvious you're either retarded, trolling or both.
>>98593659He's literally working for GW on Astartes II. The trailer/announcement for it was them posting an altered version of his trailer for the original version of Astartes II. It's going to be Deathwatch based.
>>98593800>we get a sense of who the characters areBecause Aeon only exists in those shorts, there's nothing else to know. 40k has literally hundreds of novels alone, we don't need to be told who space marines are. > action in the final short that puts warhammer slop to shame.False
>reminder that GWpiggies pay $70 a year to watch officially branded fan animations
>>98595683I'm paying $50, and I do it for the model
>>98594092Nope. Shorts get judged by whats in them, not by how fat nerds cream their pants because waowie that scene was just like page 9 chapter 42 of Book 2 in the High Chaplain Grizzgorrs Purple Crusade series.
>>98595683GW should increase the price to $100.
>>98593816trvke
>>98593816Yeah but it was made by a faggot with an inflated ego
>>98596823Don't invite him to your birthday party I guess.
>>98593659She was bought the same way Bill Gates bought Homer's company on that episode
>>98595683They're not even animated, either, lol.
Astartes is overrated and no better than bolter porn that was made fun of for years but the only difference is when it’s animated it’s suddenly accepted
>>98593757>Name something better, and explain how it's betterthere's plenty of high budget movies that are better than Astartes. You need to be blinded by the "DUDE HYPE MOMENTS AND AURA" marine wank to realize it fundamentally is kind of poorly written and dumb that these regular tactical Marines in standard power armor are blindly face tanking everything because it's got Movie Marines bullshit where absolutely none of the opponents brought a single weapon capable of hurting power armor despite the existence of meltaguns, heavy stubbers and lascannons being ubiquitous in the Imperium to the point they're mounted even on random troop transports and hand carried by individual guardsmen and this is a fucking organized insurrection that has entire battleships commandeered. If you replaced all the scenes of marines standing still letting people shoot them doing no damage before they just shoot a bolter and kill everyone 360 no scope with Sororitas in power armor doing the exact same thing everyone would correctly point out it's retarded wank and that anything that can blow up a fucking rhino or basilisk is able to turn an individual in power armor into chunky salsa. Krak grenades and missiles can blow up space marine troop transports, they can turn space marines into chunky salsa but magically nobody ever on screen has a single grenade because that would require the space marines to look "uncool" if they got blown up or frantically dodged something that could actually hurt them. The visuals are impressive and it's very impressive that it was done by a single guy but it also took him many years to do a couple minutes of zero plot action montages with shitty writing even by the extremely low standards of Warhammer. It's like holding up Michael Bay transformers as the pinnacle of cinema. Go watch some scifi shit with good production value and CGI and some actual writing on top for good measure. This shit is not better than Bladerunner 2049 or Dredd.
>>98597321>It's like holding up Michael Bay transformers as the pinnacle of cinema.>This shit is not better than Bladerunner 2049 or Dredd.lol they're the same picture
>>98597308xenos faggot who'd be cumming in his pants if it was tau
>>98597321Powerlevelling warhammer with what a marine should or should not survive is gay. They very clearly do operate off hype moments and aura.A space marine is supposed to be standing around on high ground with a big banner on his back and an oversized fist and no spare magazines and that's for the best.
>>98597321So place your bets: Tau, Eldar, or Niid player?
>>98593698It is well rendered and animated but that's about it.
>>98593659Post a link to GW making that promise. Because that just sounds like some rumor bullshit the community made up to cope.
>>98593816Death of Hope was cringe.
>>98597321>there's plenty of high budget movies that are better than AstartesName one.>none of the opponents brought a single weapon capable of hurting power armorThey did, multiple times, literally heavy stubbers and lascannons in the same part. Pretty much everything you're complaining didn't happen, DID happen, like did you not see the marine dodge the missile shot at him? It's almost like you didn't watch it.
>>98597588Guard.
>>98597321>Krak grenades and missiles can blow up space marine troop transports, they can turn space marines into chunky salsa but magically nobody ever on screen has a single grenade because that would require the space marines to look "uncool" if they got blown up or frantically dodged something that could actually hurt them.The only time I can recall an animation making space marines look "uncool" and vulnerable was a Death Korps of Krieg animation that I forget the name of. In that animation a column of Cadians escorted by a couple of Dark Angels were advancing on a Chaos position when they were ambushed. The Cadians got obliterated and both Dark Angels got taken down by a single Chaos Space Marine (one killed outright and the other severely wounded). The one that was wounded was laying with his back against a burned out Leman Russ and was about to be executed by the CSM, when a unit of Krieg Death Riders charged in and saved the space marine. So that animation actually had the space marine being saved by Guardsmen instead of the typical other way around.
>>98593659>Remember when they promised they would give the guy an entire animation studio to do official shorts?They didn't, but not doing it was completely fucking retarded.
>>98597321>This shit is not better than Bladerunner 2049 or DreddSo in the end, you just have shit taste. Good to know.
>>98597321>>98597526>tac squad overcomes hounded traitor vessel and its naval armsmen with autoguns and las emplacements through speed, strength, and shrewd tactics, just about losing a brother to psykers (unsupported thougheverbeit)>>this is hype beast wank>>powerleveling is anything outside static depictionsHow’s stupidville these days, niggers?
>>98597526a space marine is supposed to be dead with a ragged banner shot full of bullet holes with a banner on his back to achieve an ultimately pyrrhic victory, because the Imperium is surrounded from all sides by insurmountable threats, many of its own creation, and no matter how many children they feed into the meat grinder to produce a few thousand space marines it'll never be enough to stop the bleeding.The original Dawn of War cinematic is a far better example of the proper "vibes" of 40k than anything in Astartes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oqr06cHAGwThe marines capture the control point and raise their banner, but it's a pyrrhic victory because they've lost dozens of marines and a dreadnought which are irreplaceable compared to Orks that literally grow out of the ground in spores. A tattered banner atop of a mountain of corpses is the perfect symbolism for it.
>>98598842>through speed, strength, and shrewd tactics,There is none of this. They just stand still and let themselves get shot, because basic 3+ power armor is treated like they're a daemon prince or fucking custodian terminators because deep down that's what every marine bolter porn faggot imagines their faction to be. A hand-held melta bomb or krak grenade easily kills a single space marine. Anything that can blow up a Rhino (which is a troop transport used not just by Space Marines, but many other Imperial forces as well) can easily kill a space marine in basic power armor.
>>98598432There's plenty of game cinematics where marine durability is done according to their actual canon performance, I.E power weapons are able to cut through power armor like a knife through butter and an Ork nob is strong enough to rip a marine's limbs off. And even though it's accurate to both the actual primary source tabletop game and codex lore every time there's Movie Marine fags seething when it happens. The 10th edition Tyrannic War cinematic also has marines getting killed by various nids in rather unglorious ways. It's been established from day fucking 1, since the very first time "Warhammer 40,000" was used as a separate label from Rogue Trader, with Space Hulk, that even a Chapter's 100 most veteran and elite members wearing millenia-old relic Terminator armor handed down with religious significance can get ripped open like a can opener and eaten by a few-weeks-old Genestealer's claws and teeth. I blame Black Library bolter porn.
>>98598920Which makes one wonder why would anyone send out hard to replace stuff like Terminator armor to clear out a Space Hulk.I know they were made for those things (or at least the original concept for the armor), but that's the equivalent of the Japanese bringing their family blades in WW II to the front.**Yes, they did that and a lot of those swords ended up in a US GI's duffel bag on the way back to America.
>>98598863Describe the exact scene where the space marines are just standing still and eating bullets.
>>98598432>So that animation actually had the space marine being saved by Guardsmen instead of the typical other way around.Fan work by sodaz, not canon.
>>98593659Anyone trusting GW to deliver is retarded. We have decades of examples of this. The only times they don't fuckup is when they license outsource to people with passion. The only thing GW is good at is bullying with their lawyers because they still have PTSD from Blizzard.
>>98597487You're a retard if you can't see straight through transparent marinewank. Either that or you're a turbo tertiary tourist who joined the hobby within the last couple years off the back of Space Marine 2.
>>98600448That's what this thread is about you insufferable faggot. Fan animations.
>>98600414Because the Imperium is in decline and pyrrhic victories are all they can manage. Humanity's golden age is long past, this isn't even the decline of the golden age, this is the rotting corpse of an empire in decline where nobody even remembers what the golden age was capable of. The state of the galaxy in m41 is a fail state for humanity, it's the Holy Roman Empire's collapse but in slow motion and spread out over countless planets, the Imperium is so enormous that even its death throes take ages but the whole fucking point is that even when humanity wins it's still losing against the countless threats gnawing at it from all sides. The fact it's a colossal waste and irreplaceable sacrifice for suits of terminator armor to be lost fighting mass-produced Tyranid bioforms in the cramped corridors of a rotten decaying space hulk is literally the entire point of the setting.
>>98600509He's screeching about tau, of course he's a tertiary
>>98593706>delulu.
>>98598844>>98600753Games workshop doesn't understand logistics or numbers or anything so they still win and none of that matters and a hundred years later they're doing just fine.Sorry you took it too seriously. It didn't matter.
>>98600441https://youtu.be/DVXEYksoE6c?&t=179if a sororitas in standard power armor did this exact same sequence of literally walking down an empty corridor and standing still posing like a girlboss while face-tanking a multilaser emplacement, this board would be calling it garbage girlboss fanfiction and patently ridiculous. reminder that multi-lasers on tabletop have higher strength than heavy bolters and volkite weaponry and are the midpoint on the way to lascannons which are just really big multilasers. even Primaris vehicles have fucking stubbers mounted on them now which are weaker than what this marine is facetanking.A marine standing still facetanking fire and shooting a single round from a bolt pistol is treated as a serious threat, and then there's the extended sequence after where he pulls out his basic plasma pistol and shoots a single shot with it which is treated like he's setting off a fucking tactical nuke, it's the most egregious bolter porn marine wank you can think of. Just fucking IMAGINE the reaction if it was any other faction's 3+ save basic infantry standing still shooting a plasma pistol with this level of wank. Do you think a Striking Scorpion standing still in a hallway facetanking a fixed emplacement before slowly raising a shuriken pistol to one tap it wouldn't get clowned on?
>>98601210>while face-tankingHe took cover, blinded the shooters, then used a completely different weapon to take it out. You're acting like he stood there, walked up to the multi laser and punched it until it exploded
>>98601323you're such a disingeneuous faggot lmao
>>98601362>post webm showing marine taking cover because he couldn't suppress with return fire
>>98601362>cuts the video right before he takes cover and does something tactical by blinding the shooter and shooting his last known location with an aoe weapon.the only disingenuous faggot here is you, got jerk of your Cadians and cry about it.
>>98601210No one gives a shit about sororita bro. If it was some chick, no one would have even watched it.
>>98595723Wrong
>>98601362The fuck are you even trying to prove now.This actually disproves your point more when the SM changes his stance, narrowing how much of body is available to hit before he backs away.
>>98601362Its fucking wild how you can post a clip of a space marine getting shot repeatedly with a las cannon and tanking it and somehow these fags can't accept its a shit video.
>>98601756Yeah lemme change my stance after someone unloads an ak right into my torso. It's like the marine turned to an instant death page in a gamebook and decided to go back to the previous section lmao.
>>98601906It's even wilder you can't tell between a lascannon and a multilaser after all this time.
>>98601906It's a multilaser.
>>98601906>with a las cannon
>>98601930>change my stance after someone unloads an ak right into my torsoYou'd prefer if he just stood still instead? Would you complain less if he dodged the lasers?
GW is following the old school method of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.They saw people doing fanvids and otherwise using their IP, send C&D letters but offered artists leeway if they did as GW said, and now they're pulling the rug out from under people after they sign NDAs and other contracts.
>I'll teach you to give us free marketing!>*smothers an entire cottage industry that was organically feeding you customers*This is what happens when you publicly trade your stocks.Every.Single.Time.
>>98602222Worse, it's what happens when you let lawyers get involved.
>>98600414Because the terminator armor isn't for protectionIt's to help the marine carry a bigger gun and keep them from getting plinked to death by hybrids with autoguns, IEDs and rocket launchers
>>98597321>meltaguns, heavy stubbers and lascannons being ubiquitous in the Imperiumexcept they're explicitly rare in the lore
>>98595683It needs to be at least 200$/month and have even worse animation>>98596823>Yeah but it was made by a faggot with an inflated egoYou just describe ever warhammer fan
>>98593816I found it to be painfully clunky
>>98601362Multilasers had an AP of 6 meaning the only armor it would be able to penetrate was gaunt armor and ork boy scraps. Even basic guard flak armor kept its saving throw. So by all means a tactical marine would be able to face tank a multilaser. Just admit you're a filthy tertiary who pretends he knows shit after watching a few bad YouTube videos
>>98593692>need the Warhammer brand or some other IP and retards will eat it up.
>>98601362He literally takes cover, do you not know what face tanking means? Are you genuinely retarded?
>half the thread is seething about MarinesXenoqueers and guardfags must hang
>98602423>Errm... if you don't jerk off the mahrines 24/7/365 then you're a QUEERkys tertiary newfag
>>98601210>reminder that multi-lasers on tabletop have higher strength than heavy bolters and volkite weaponryyou conveniently forgot to include it has 0 AP, meaning it has to rely on failed armor saves from sheer volume of fire to actually kill a space marine, a multi lass is quite literally the worst emplaced weapon to use to kill a space marine both in lore and in the tabletop
>>98602409Are you trying to make the argument that space king is an orignal property because it's literally 40k junior. It's ironic, for years Warhammer fans would never shut up about xyz thing was totally like Warhammer even when it had nothing to do with the property or only incidental influence. Like Rebel Moon, which Zack Snyder said like a thousand times was based on Heavy Metal Magazine. But now Space King is a heckin original good boy.
>>98593816That was crap
>>98602409How the fuck did that garbage get 2M?Those minis are absolute shit
>>98601210>seething because of powerscaling>in 40kthis retarded franchise is pure utter nonsensical garbage that is only remotely redeemable as a concept.the story is nonsensical, the presentation is terriblemost gw writers are juvenile inbred retards and the story swings to the tune of their bipolar opinions.the whole thing is just a fucking patent troll,the board game doesn't even deserve to be mentionedreminder that syama pedersen made this thing by himself and it's better than anything gw has ever produced on their own in the entire lifetime of the company.
maybe it's because the last time i played 40k was like 4th edition, but i remember marines being only slightly more tanky than mostlike they've only got a 3+ save by default, but if they're within close range of a squad of guardsmen with lasguns, usually the marines came off worse in terms of point loss from an army
>>98602409Space King got 3 milly for the 'Board game'>James Jerkshop seethingI LOVE SPACE KINGhttps://youtu.be/Gn2Z4vfZUNo
>>98602780They've been jerking off marines in all the secondary media for so long they've had to buff them in game to prevent dissonance.
>>98602780it comes down to the fact GW has fuck all sense of scale and has a faction usually comprised of 1000 troops getting into fights and ending up losing 1/10 each battle, now im no army tactician but losing 100 space marines in one fight is pretty fucking dire especially how brutal and picky the recruitment process and training of a new space marine is, so you either break established lore and up that number by x10 minimum or make them unstoppable killing machines brought down by sheer attrition
>>98593659Astartes 2 is coming out this year (supposedly) and it’s exactly what you’re talking about.
>>98602092>>98602160Two barrels.
>>98603056>what is a twin-linked multilaser?
>>98602086Fuck it, even with that, you still try and say its not just sitting there getting shot with whatever heavy las weapon that is standing in hallway is somehow not tanking shots. Astarte a shit.
>>98603080Multilasers are typically depicted with multiple rotary barrels and bias cut at the end. I don't think they've been depicted as wheeled portable, only mounted on vehicles. Good job backpedaling to them being shot repeatedly with a heavy weapon.
>>98593659It was mid anyway.
>>98603092>Multilasers are typically depicted with multiple rotary barrels and bias cut at the end.you mean like how its depicted in the animation?
>>98603092I looked up a multi-laser gun and the weapon used does seem to fit the description. Lascannons are slower firing and the Multi-las can be mounted on a platform to be used as a turret.
>>98603141Cool so its a multilaser. So he tanks multilasers to the face. glad we agree.
>>98603173yes anon, a multilaser is a mainly antipersonal weapon, it struggles against armor, its why its mounted on scout vehicles or as a coax for a tank, we already discussed this
>>98597321holy trvke
>>98603182I'm not even >>98601210but >>98601323was a liar. Cope.
>ackshooally the thing that everyone loves is bad and everyone really hates itThis thread glows.
>>98598920>Secondaries whine that marines aren't elite enough because they only read lore about how space marines will make you instantly cum in five seconds>Space Marines going up to the same toughness value as Tyranid warriors because Titus can kill dozens of those pissbabies without breaking a sweat or something>Genestealers on the tabletop soon to go from not being able to tickle terminators to also not being able to tickle normal marines>Ancient race of hyper advanced ayy lmaos that have the capability to fuck with space, time, and physics aren't able build a robotic body that's tougher than a space marine
>>98593659I wonder how many black female military leaders they're going to add to this one.
>>98603194i accept your concession
>>98603208I'm glad we agree its a shit film overhyped by idiots.
>>98602780Yes, in actual proper Warhammer a space marine is just a t4 model with a 3+ save. Even terminators only had a single wound. Bolters were S4 AP 0 and still able to kill them. You can really tell who the tourists are based on how they feel about this
>>98603182A multilaser is Strength 6 when MEQ are only T4 S4. A heavy bolter is S5 and you'd never see marine fags complain about a Devastator mowing down chaos space marines with one.
>>98603242Proper warhammer is the art. The game was always a crappy mess that sort of vaguely resembled it.
>>98603277Its AP 6. >Heavy 3, WS3, TL. Hits twice, sometimes three hits. >Wounds on 2+, probably 2 wounds >2x 3+ saves He might make it.
>>98603277it's different because in>DA LOOOOOOOOOREwe have examples of heavy bolters raping marines or something
>>98603194You literally see him do all that in the video posted you blind retard
>>98603483You need to read the posts and watch the video fuckface.
>>98593816Was it? Not much happened>Cool opening where Astartes save civilians from Chaos>Rest of the animation is ambient shots of a spooky chaos ship while people talk
>>98593659He refused to include pudgy black female custodes/techpriests/commisars, so GW locked him down.
>>98603056Still not a lascannon
>>98603277>Oh no, he got lucky with his saves, better toss the whole thing outUtterly retarded
>>98603194>was a liar.No, everything he said about the video is completely true.
>>98600776I mean it's possible you're a fagdar player crying over your npc faction, too. Warhammer is about Space Marines. It's the main faction AND the best-selling one.
>>98604124Yet the space marine game doesn't sell for shit, curious.
>>98593659They still are to me knowledge. It’s just taking time. Unless GW officially cancel it, it’s still happening.
>>98604241>doesn't sell for shit12 million players
>>98604054Still movie marines.
>>98604255>single digit percent of GW's sales>Sales less the AoS>12 million playersLol, lmao
>>98603214overhyped? YesShit? No
>>98604255Wait, didn't it make GW only 50 mln?Are you telling me James sees less than $5 from each secondary marinefag?
>>98607536Keep in mind that these stats are from different points in time, estimates show SM2 earned at least a couple hundred million dollars.
>>98604124Why are you reducing it to a numbers dick-measuring contest? Is it possible that despite their popularity, marines are the least interesting faction in 40k? Alternatively, they've been sanded of all their edges and sloppified BECAUSE of their popularity.
>>98604255You retarded tertiary, they were talking about 'the space marine game', as in Horus Heresy, not the /V/igger shit
