How do you make good anthropomorphic races that dont feel like furries made them? Giffs are awesome, and loxodons are pretty cool too, as well as Pandarens in WOW, but alot of homebrew stuff just has no sauce and feel like shitty furry OCs.
>>98594795If you're worried about whether or not something appeals to furries or not rather than if you think it's cool or not, you've already failed. Contrarianism is subhuman behavior, if you're doing something out of spite or because someone else likes something and you want to make the opposite, you have failed not only as a creative, not only as a game designer, but as a human being.
>>98594795Take note on how Disney anthropomorphizes animals and do the opposite. Also anthro dogs are the most common fursona so don't make those
>>985947951: Have a strong vision of how they fit into your world and their racial identity. A lot of people will tell you that you need varied individuals in your race, these people are dumb cowards. Dwarfs like digging and drinking, bearpeople like honey and sleeping.2: A furry will always assume you're a furry too. That's just how they are. Most normal people won't jump to the allegations if your animal people have strong connections to the world that doesn't relate to their animality.
>>98594795It depends on what you mean by "good" and whose senses of "feelings" you're trying to appeal to.
>>98594795Honestly, its mostly an aesthetic distinction. The Giff you posted has a fairly realistically rendered head for a hippopotamus, and not a typical furry-esque somewhat anthropomorphized head where the appealing features of the head are emphasized and the more mundane/unappealing are de-emphasized.Like, if the art provided for your anthro race is more consistently depicted as an animal reshaped into a man, rather than a sports team mascot, you are on the right track.
>>98594795>How do you make good anthropomorphic races that dont feel like furries made them?>>98594974 has good advice. Point 2 is the best point. It's very important that you don't make your animal people sexy. You don't have to make them red nosed tumblr abominations, but if you find yourself even for a second entertaining the notion that you might jerk it to them, you have failed.Don't think, at all, about them having sex. Don't let the animal part of the race influence their behaviour and society, particularly the animal's mating patterns. Giffs are cool because they're great big hippo guys who shoot guns on space fantasy space ships, and their entry in the Monstrous Manual doesn't talk about them slinging shit with their tails or how they fuck or what the shape of their dick is. I have no idea if Giff get married, how many kids they have on average, or any shit like that.I just know they're tough, the like to fight, and they like to use guns because they like big sound and big damage.
>>98594795Start by making sure they're not attractive.Second, anthropomorphize them as little as possible. In particular, don't human-ify their faces.Develop unique cultures for them. Furshit is just "I'm like anyone, except have cat ears". Loxodons, giff, and pandarens are all whole-ass independent societies.
>>98595722>It's very important that you don't make your animal people sexySome of the most popular animal races out there were sexy.
>>98595736You need to go back, anon.
>>98594795Travel back in time, it can no longer be done
>>98594795Furries would fuck literal animals, so you can't stop them from jerking off to your cool animal creatures.If you mean how can my anthros not look like a furry drew them, then its all about the head, specifically the eyes and mouth, if the mouth can "emote" then its too human, if the eyes dont have a clear large white or aren't anime-like furries dont like them. So basically as long as you stick an actual animal head on top of a creature it wont look like furry art (the picture you attached is the best example, just imagine his cheeks more full and mouth more emotive and his eyes white with clear pupils and it becomes a furry).
>>98596034>if the eyes dont have a clear large white or aren't anime-like furries dont like themI personally would consider this a furry pic and it's weird that you don't
>>98594795Just do the classic human with the head of a beast. Or make them fully animal, but upright. No broad shoulders, fluffy hands, or human musculature
You're basically asking how to make furry races not be furries, but they are inherently furry. If you want to insert furry races into your game, you're probably a furry.Even if you use actual mythical half-animal races like centaurs, satyrs, etc. they end up appealing to furries.There is only one animal-human thing which never seems to appeal to furries, and that's ape-men. By happy coincidence, they are also literally the only animal race worth having in a non-furry fantasy setting.
>>98596086Ape-men are basically just bara furries, very popular with the gays.
>>98594795Just make them racists, anti-gay, or racemixing. Funny enough, making them racist towards other races is enough to scare off the furfags. Especially if you make them racist towards other anthropomorphics. Plus making them anti-homo and against hybrids. They will out themselves or play something else. Though some for a lack of a better term "based" furries will be willing to play them... However, if they're willing to play the part. Let 'em
For females, no boobs unless if it's a primate.
>>98596696This absolutely will not stop people from wanting to fuck them.>>98594795The kung-fu pandas are pretty clearly furrybait. Not sure what crack you're smoking but you should stop.>>98594795The simplest cheat is to avoid "anime" style art. And not to make the race in question a fox, wolf, lion, or cat. You can have those and be non-furry but you're more likely to attract them and related accusations if you do.Avoid human eyes, as well.
>>98596119>Funny enough, making them racist towards other races is enough to scare off the furfagsYou have never read furry fiction and it shows
>>98594795>How do you make good anthropomorphic races that dont feel like furries made them?If you're playing irl with your friends just don't get into sexualized animals. Not hard if you don't already have problems in that regard. If you're playing online you're fucked, online players are mentally permafucked from internet overexposure.
IRL? You can do anything. Just dont sexualize them.Online? Literally nothing you can do.. furfaggots will just make fan art of anything you come up with and sexualize it themselves.
>>98596037I know what you are
>>98596037Literally mentioned the mouth emoting and fullness of cheeks, and the eyes are overly large. Thats 3/5. Get dunked
>>98594795It's simple, just don't give them eyelashes and keep em very unfriendly
>>98594944Are those fucking toadline sheep? What is wrong with people?
This is a pathetic exercise. Most of the answers will just gravitate toward don't use them at all, or make them hideous. Funny enough it's the same playbook toward making sexy women into unwanted garbage. At that point you are giving up power and control of a thing you like to others and spiting yourself to not appeal to them because it's the worst thing in the world apparently. Appealing things, and yes that includes races and characters, will naturally have that appeal and seeing that as a thing to fight is a form of insanity in my opinion.
If furry media is any indication, you can make them appeal less to furries by:>making them black coded either aesthetic or culturally as most furries are white>avoid mammals and mammal traits altogether because most furries gravitate to mammals especially feline and canine types>avoid males altogether, and avoid females with feminine traits because most furries are gay, and the ones that aren't want very human-like females
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>>98597618>Eyes overly largeThere's some pretty big animal eyes out there anon.
Ironically leaning heavier into actual animal physical looks and features can turn some furries off. There is a puriteen movement among furries strongly against sapient animals or more bestial anthros due to zoophilias fears.
>>98594795Pick exotic animals people don't have as pets or regularly have sex with. No one will want a blowjob from a snapping turtle or komodo dragon. Also choose animals don't have cutesy personalities. Put the animal attitudes into culture and you have a new society with a modicum of depth quickly. Use human societies only as framework where you sort the animal in.
>>98598199Anon, furries want to fuck animals, making them more animal-like will just attract them even stronger.
>>98598202>No one will want a blowjob from a snapping turtle or komodo dragonKomodo Dragons are actually pretty popular with furries
>>98598203Read the entire statement. There is a younger movement among furries to ostracize and try to cancel that sort of thing even if it is entirely fiction like with the Lion King characters.
>>98598216If they don't want to fuck real animals then they're not furries anon. There's no 'younger movement to cancel it' because the people that want to cancel it aren't furries. You can like anthropomorphic animals without being a furry, it's wanting to fuck real animals that makes you a furry.
Bugs. They are among the least popular.
>>98598232No, liking anthropomorphic animals in any way makes you furry.
>>98598248Incorrect, furries are freaks who want to fuck animals, plenty of normal people like anthros.
>>98594795This is my favorite kind. Cool, nonsexual, and to the point.
>>98598252This is revisionist.
>>98598214Now give them the attitude of a komodo dragon and suddenly they're no longer "lovable bears without all the hair" anymore.
>>98598283I mean if you gave them the attitude of a komodo dragon they wouldn't be sapient anymore, they'd just be dumb animals who wouldn't pass a mirror test, no reason to even make them humanoid at that point.
>>98598283People own monitors as pets, anon.
>>98598288You know there is a fish that passed the mirror test and most mirror test experiemtns are flawed right?https://www.sciencealert.com/this-tiny-fish-passed-an-intelligence-test-that-once-distinguished-great-apesYou worthless fucking retard nigger. Animals are smarter than what you believe.
>party member betrays you
>>98598283There are plenty of furries who would love to get eaten alive by an anthro komodo dragon, I don't think them being hostile is all that much of a barrier
>>98598299Either that's a baby or an entirely different type of monitor lizard.
>>98598333People still keep asian water monitors as pets and they are literally only one step down from komodos in size.
There's a solid chunk of furry media that's literally about furries invading humans and treating humanity terribly, the people saying furries have to be friendly are really out of touch.
>>98598384That's just fluffy abuse with fewer step to disguise their complexes.
>>98598264>Cool, nonsexual, and to the point.>nonsexualAnon...
>>98594795More talking, magic animals, fewer humanoids.
>>98594795Why not just focus on making ones that you like?
Y'know, I was gonna say "lean into them being MORE animal-shaped, not less," but then I remembered Armello and Zootopia and how well those two did. I'm sorry OP, there's really nothing you can do, furries WILL fuck anything anthro. Just make your beast men using the animals you think are coolest or the most interesting and try not to worry about what a degen in a diaper thinks of it.
What game and what setting?
You guys are all tackling the issue from the wrong side.The real furriness of an humanoid hybrid isn't triggered by the animal parts, but from how close it is to humans. So don't think "oh, what animal can I take that is not furrable?" (as basically any vertebrate is) but get more animalistic and/or not conforming to the human bodyplan.
>>98594795Faggot
>>98599461>The real furriness of an humanoid hybrid isn't triggered by the animal parts, but from how close it is to humans.One Anon was claiming Furriness was the willingness to fuck animals!
>>98599498This is why you don't go to secondhand resources for primary sources. Anything anyone says on 4chan on the topic of furries is neccessarily suspect, given our history with SomethingAwful and that site's particular bugaboos.
>>98599498And why are you surprised to find degenerates on /tg/ of all places?That being said, I bet there are people wanking off to sentient trilobites. So, a pure "non furry" situation is impossible as long as you have intelligent animals - don't strive for something unattainable, just to make it not the shortest road to furfaggotry.
/co/ poster hereMake them sitcom cartoons. There's a lot that furries jerk to but these creatures are disgusting and only get flash in the pan Xitter trend porn from safehorny meme artists
>>98599697Cats got a similar reception. Just all around unappealing designs that hold no appeal to regular people OR furries. But then at that point you may as well ask what the point of it even is?
>>98594795Check Out Palladium Fantasy's Wolfen. Romulus roman-eqsue shit who's goal is united the 'hated' races of orcs, goblins, ogres, and their related races (Coyles [who commit almost all the atrocities against humans that Wolfen are accused of doing] and Kankoran) They eat Gnomes in setting (Most races do, even the humanoid kobolds of the setting which are basically beardless rage-dwarves) and Coyles will eat humans too. They also have bugbears that are bearish, Bearmen of the north, and a bunch of other non-furry animal races
>>98598252>>98598232Brother they banned the guy who fucked animals from any event in the area. A furry is a guy who wants to fuck krystal the fox. A guy who wants to fuck a horse in the ass is called an animal abuser
>>98595736>>98595767Whats the problem? They're mean looking and badass. If you found one in your closet, you'd try to kill it not fuck it.
>>98599777They're the same picture, anon.
>>98599777Those are the same thing
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>>98599546>That being said, I bet there are people wanking off to sentient trilobites. So, a pure "non furry" situation is impossible as long as you have intelligent animals - don't strive for something unattainable, just to make it not the shortest road to furfaggotry.I mean, agreed, but the Anon posting Tezuka's Snitties acts like someone wouldn't fuck an Octopus...
>>98599823>>98599832Not really, unless you keep to the absolute belief and hold sex with elves and dwarves as well as bestiality since they are utterly distinct from humanity and merely look similar.
Furries ruin everything, we're lucky that pokemon is a containment hobby
>>98599851Leftoid discourse take.
>>98599823>>98599832This has always been a nonsensical stance to me. Anthropomorphic races are not the same as the animal they may be based on, like how a human isn't just an ape.
>>98599897This is something only a furry would attempt to classify. A dog fucker is a dog fucker no matter how you try and quantize the amount of dog you are fucking.
>>98599889Think about it realistically. To an elf what is a human? Something that superficially looks like me, but is much dumber and lives much shorter, and may or may not be more primitive. How would you reconcile that? It's either like a relationship with a developmentally stunted member of your race, a child, or a lesser animal objectively.
>>98599912Do you hold that as an absolute belief? Or does it only trouble you because of how they look? Would you suddenly be okay with it if it were a kemonomimi?
>>98599924Anon like every fantasy story has half elves
>>98599777Incorrect.Furries want to fuck actual animals.Wanting to fuck anthros isn't being a furry, that's just being normal. Everyone wants to fuck Freya Crescent, that's just being a regular dude. Wanting to fuck an actual real life rat is what makes you a furry.
>>98599938Irrelevant to the point.
>>98599941This is some high grade revisionist copium.
>>98599932What the fuck is a kemonomimi?
>>98599941>Wanting to fuck an actual real life rat is what makes you a furry.>t. Furry in Denial
>>98599960Demihumans in Asian media that are considered animal people and usually look very human, like having cast ears, cat tails, etc. but otherwise mostly look human yet distinctly did not come from humanity.
>>98599953People hate furries because furries rape animals. Ergo, anyone who doesn't rape animals, isn't a furry. It's not that hard to understand.
>>98599960"Kemono mimi" is Japanese for "Animal Ears," usually used as copium for why people with slight animal traits aren't actually "Furry."
>>98599984>>98600011Those are still furries. What kind of brain addled derangement does one have to have to attempt to justify that only a little bit of dog magically jews the definition of being a furry. If you fuck dogs you are a dog fucker. There's no range, it is a line in the sand you're trying to obfuscate. No one is fooled by this.
>>98600065>If you fuck dogs you are a dog fuckerExactly, which, by extension, means that anyone that doesn't fuck dogs, can't be a furry.
>>98600065>If you fuck dogs you are a dog fucker.And what is your definition of a "Dog?"
>>98600070>>98600072Get mental help
>>98600080...for not fucking dogs?
>>98600072Does it have a cookie or a red rocket?
>>98600065Okay buddy, how does your flawless logic work when applied to fantasy creatures? Like gods, demigods, spirits, races, or other beings that might have an inhuman look but no ties to any animals whatsoever?
>>98600065bro thinks egyptian gods fuck dogs when they fucked each other
>>98600085>Does it have a cookie...You mean a vagina?>>98600113>Okay buddy, how does your flawless logic work when applied to fantasy creatures?Easy, anything he doesn't like is "Furry!"
>>98600132bad, dare I say terrible example. Bro is claiming want to fuck a girl with a buttplug and earband is the same as wanting to fuck dogs and you pull out furry but not didneyslop
>>98600140I have angered the dogfucker horde
>>98600140cookie is the disgusting term dogfuckers use, anon, and I say this as a furry who hates dogs. They claim dog pussy looks like a "Fortune Cookie". I have seen gay furries lust after drawn dog pussy and 3 sentences later get grossed out by a picture of a non-feral furry woman.
Do we have to post the old guideline images?
>>98599941Retard, by your definition the majority of furries don't exist because their clown colored OCs don't exist in nature. If you find rat women, even made up rat women attractive, you are a furry.
>>98600177furry made these
>>98600181Correct, the vast majority of humans aren't furries, animal rapists are uncommon outside of India. What you mistakenly refer to as a furry is just an anthro enthusiast. The entire reason people hate furries is because they rape animals, ergo anyone who isn't raping animals can't be a furry.
Is Holo furry? I mean, I suppose there are degress between her and Brisby
>>98600191Nope. Artist draws 99% humans.
>>98600193The reason why people hate furries is because they inject their repulsive brain damaged fetish into everything they touch, and ruin the quality of said things. People who are attracted to animals or made up animals are furries. Trying to create specific definitions to attempt to distance yourself from the disgusting perversion is an act of desperation only furries attempt to push. No one is fooled by this.
>>98600216>>98600216>Trying to create specific definitions to attempt to distance yourself from the disgusting perversion is an act of desperation only furries attempt to pushSo you're saying >>98600065 is a furry then?
>>98600216>The reason why people hate furries is because they inject their repulsive brain damaged fetish into everything they touch, and ruin the quality of said things.You could say the same about all coomers in general.
As much as I personally dislike furries, I can't help but admire the way in which they cause this board to seethe uncontrollably without even really trying.
>>98600239At this point it doesn't even feel genuine to me, it's like cargo cult shit, or where people go through the motions because they think it'll net them anonymous clout.
>>98600228yes>>98600221Why are you attempting to conflate what I said? Are you upset about furries and dogfuckers being the same thing?>>98600239It doesn't take much effort to shit on the ground in a crowded area yet everyone you will seethe if you do it. That's not impressive, it's repulsive.
>>98600255>Are you upset about furries and dogfuckers being the same thing?So you agree with me then. Furries and dogfuckers are the same thing, ergo anyone who doesn't fuck dogs isn't a furry. Therefore, this isn't furry, since it doesn't involve fucking dogs. Glad we can agree on that.
>>98600228True. I feel like the specific problem with furries is that their sexuality can't distinguinsh between (hopefully) not sexually-intended kiddie cartoons and adult sexual attraction. This is very repulsive.That, and they honestly are a pest. Like, I'm sure there are gooners that jerk off to actual gun porn, but that doesn't ruin action movies. This... doesn't apply to anything remotely anthro.
>>98598333Monitors and Tengu can be very friendly once they get used to the idea that humans are warm and have food. The problem is that it takes them a while to figure that out
>>98600265That is a scary amount of cope you are on, living example.
>>98600287So which is it anon? Are furries dogfuckers, or are they not dogfuckers? Were you lying before, or are you lying now?
>>98600167>cookie is the disgusting term dogfuckers useIt's also just use for a regular vagina...>>98600193>animal rapists are uncommon outside of IndiaDidn't know /k/ was Indian...
>>98600228Coomers understand their lane though and typically stay in it, you don't see them making gratuitous leaps of logic to try to play pretend to act like they're normal. Furries on the other hand will act underhanded even though all parties involved know exactly what they're up and tend to target children more often. You have to willfully put yourself into coomer space, furries try to inject themselves into other places .
>>98600326>Coomers understand their lane though and typically stay in itAbsolutely not. They are cut from the same cloth of excess and are even more insufferable here on 4chan because they know they are more accepted and thus spam their shit far more brazenly as its less likely to get deleted.
>>98600326>>98600339CLEARLY the problem is HUMANS!
>>98600339From my experience in TT games they self separate unlike the furry subset who attempt to pass off as normal to get into games
>>98600250Nothing about 4chan these days is genuine.
>>98598598What? There's literally nothing sexual about him, he's just a cool tiger ninja. That's peak design.
>>98594795Don't emphasize human-centric traits that fur coomers will get off on. Especially the eyes.
>>98600525>he's just a cool tiger ninjaA heavily muscled tiger ninja...
>>98600538That won't work, a lot of furries like the animalistic eyes.
>>98594795Remove some animal features to produce the uncanny valley effect.
>>98600571Remove the most appealing feature of the animal.Remove canines' snout.Remove cats' ears and give them human ears.Give snake legs (They have shorter tails than lizards.)
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>>98600541Tigers are naturally heavily muscled, I don't like what you're implying.
>>98600662So are Bears Anon, but there is a reason why that's slang...
>>98600556How the fuck do people find that attractive?
>>98600677>How the fuck do people find that attractive?WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?!
>>98600677you are not one of us
>>98600777Thank god, you animal fuckers need help
