Ancient Enemies Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Battle March General's Compendiumhttps://mega.nz/file/tP5STCAS#4yDuu8WLk-Mn4Ut2pe7x7AWwxJmEjXW5cvV0xtwMWD4>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>98586724>Thread Question:Do you think the Great Book of Grudges ultimately beneficial or disastrous for Dwarf society?
>>98596319>TQIt is explicitly disastrously bad and a waste of the already meagre dwarven life that is born
>>98596319Why is this game so populat in India? Half the accounts on X talking about it are from New Delhi
Daemon-blooded steed seems like a good option for an imperial griffon, improved damage output and impetuous is manageable with leadership 10.
>>98596325A knife ear like you wouldn't understand the importance of honor.
>>98596331I feel like daemon blooded steed is basically an auto take for any kind of mounted character that can take it and is going to be in combat.
>>98596333There's a difference between honour and pissing life away
Army wide pic. Sorry for the washed-out colours, natural light isn't great.
>>98596361Looks fantastic, I love the implicit lore of green being a poor peasant color on display here. Great job.
>>98596367Thanks. Yes, I wanted the bowmen to look like conscripted peasants. The models would actually make great bandits for a tabletop RPG.
I splurged on some Ral Partha metals, what should I run these scorpion-men as?
>>98596442They look like the old chaos beastmen range. Aesthetically however I don't see them fitting with current beastmen, so maybe daemons?
Does anyone have a copy of the new arcane journal they can post? or at least the ploy pages?
>>98596319TQshort term its probably good for a motivating "lets all get together and right this wrong thing" but in the end its most likely detrimental for bending their whole society around a never forgive never forget mentality. General question, What do you guys reccomend for VC zombies, I'm tempted by the kings of war but how do they measure up looks & size wise to other fantasy minatures? I do really like the idea of having all sorts of human, orc, beastmen etc. all mixed in together in one massive horde. Any suggestions appreciated!
>>98596442scorpions would fit something slaaneshi
>>98596361Great army, anon. Now you need to get yourself some pussy by recruiting a damsel who will cast spells in your army.
>>98596545Slaaneshi chaos spawn? I reckon these fit on 50x50 bases.
>>98596547can Damsels have sex or do they have to be celibate?
>>98596538mantic zombies are good, diehard miniatures has undead for various races but they're pricy metals so I'd only take a few as representative tokenszombicide is at a slightly different scale but some of their sculpts can be fun and you can get them very cheap, they're awfully repetitive but if you cut and bash them with other bits they're a great source of bodiesfor extra variety in zombies there's also fireforge's and wargame atlantic's plastic kits
>>98596547It's on the list >one damsel on horse>two more pegasi>one Duke on Pegasus>one foot paladin with banner>four knights>about twelve more archers>about twenty more men at arms
>>98596559Damsels canonically fuck chad knights (from the rpg Bret book)
>>98596592*Meant to say horses and unicorns
>>98596592Even the lord of the Lance book implied the damsel had casual sex with the protagonist knight in that book
>>98596592>>98596633Both non canon sloppa
I managed to play two games yesterday, one Battle March at 600 and one 1k with my friend using my old chaos army against my orcs.The first match was 600 points Battle March. Snagrog had spruced up his Shiny Armour just for this fight. After raiding a nearby humie village, some of the elf looking humies had come to stop him. He saw the humie boss on a dragon looking thing, but it wasn't quite big enough to be a proper one. "Boss...what we gonna do bout that big flying lizard ting?" The big un looked slightly pale, or as pale as an orc could get. Snagrog snorted and cuffed the Orc across the face, sending it sprawling. A good reminder to the rest who's boss."Dat lizard fing aint a proppa dragon. It just looks like un. Tell you lot what I am gunner do...I'm gonna krump it gud!"With a great warcry, Snagrog ordered the advance. -----The Cathay general, mounted on his Longma, was easily able to pick out the leader of this roving band of Greenskins. An enormous creature, almost the size of an ogre, stood at the forefront, covered almost completely by hard, steel plates of armour and a hodge podge of chainmail. Knowing what little he did of the greenskins, slaying this beast should be no issue. The beast let out a terrible roar and like a green tidal wave, the greenskins advanced. Glancing behind, his gunners, lancers and regiments were ready. With but a single gesture, the army advanced to meet the greenskins.
>>98596638So what is a canon example of a damsel being chaste and celibate then?
>>98596646It's the default.
>>98596639Snagrog watched as the humie boss swooped towards them. With a piercing cry, the dragon thing swooped towards the arrer boyz who legged it. Barely missing them, the Longma struck the hard earth.Snagrog knew this was his chance. Calling a tremendous WAAAAGH, Snagrig and his big uns slammed into the Cathayan general.Punching aside one of the more eager big uns, Snagrog met the Humie general face to face. Before he could even lift his axe, the metal of his armour screeched as the humie's lance tore across the plate. The longma, roaring, lashed out with its terrible talons but was also met with the untarnished Meteoric Iron. Pausing only slightly from the impact, Snagrog struck with his axe, tearing open the side of the Longma. The humie general tried to control the beast, which allowed Snagrog to strike again, catching the humie in the chest, opening a bloody gash across its chest.In that moment, the humie looked terrified, eyes wide and mouth agape. In that moment, it fled, humie and dragon thing both, with Snagrog in hot pursuit.
>>98596653No it's not, damsels aren't nuns. And since they are in fact priestess of elven deity - there's literally no reason why they should avoid fucking. Celibate is another thing - but mind you, celibate doesn't mean no sex allowed, it means no marriage.
>>98596681Elves aren't degenerates.
>>98596684Sure they aren't.
>>98596665"Dats it lads! Get stuck in!"Grimtoof's boyz had charged their way into the disciplined shield wall of the Cathayan warriors resulting in a bloody melee. Their boss had tried to strike down Grimtoof, only to have his skull caved in from a quick headbutt. The boyz too were getting a good scrap, the humies armour and shields doing little to protect their soft, pink bodies. It was over in a moment, Grimtoof's boyz running them down. Suddenly, before they could recover, a shadow appeared overhead. The Humie boss on his spindly dragon thing had landed. Grimtoof's mind raced. Was Snagrog dead? Was it his time to be the boss? Before he could think further, the dragon thing crashed into their ranks. Grimtoof barreled forward. He was da biggest and strongest orc left, a black orc too! Fighting like he had never before, talons, lance and crushing claws lashing out but through grit and sheer orciness, no blow landed. Grimtoof struck out with his choppas, striking the humies mount furiously. It was his time!------The Cathayan general was filled with terror. He had badly underestimated the Greenskins, both he and his mount suffering wounds. Now this second, almost equally as large Orc had come to face him. Fear caused him to flail recklessly, failing to land a blow.He heard a scream and a quick glance saw the Orc leader ripping the head off the remaining Jade Warrior's champions head, who also broke at the sight.His army surrounded and he himself wounded, the general turned and fled. Kicking his longma's sides, the creature flew high, abandoning the rest of his army to its doom.One more look back, he saw the Jade Lancers being pulled down by the orcs. Today the greenskins had taken the field.
>>98596698The second game, my friend used my chaos army against my orcs at 1k. Korgoth and Snagrog meet at last. This battle had two endings funnily enough. A standard pitched battle, we set up 24" away with 6 turns. It had been a good number of weeks but Snagrog's warbabd had finally traversed the Worlds Edge Mountains, looting and foraging where possible. Unfortunately, taking the wrong turn had brought the Orcs further up north than they had liked abd now were facing the horde of Korgoth the destroyer. Snagrog knew spiky humies were the best of fights. Yet behind all that armour, they were still humies. They had to ask their gods for armour to keep their weak bodies safe, unlike Orcs. That, and he liked if you hit them hard enough, they'd make funny sounds, so you knew you gave them a proppa krumpin."Line up ladz, we got a good foight waitin fer us!"
>>98596727Snufgob, the goblin wolf rider boss, had finally found the ladz a way through the mountains, leading them what he believed was a stunty fort. After a few turns, climbs and more turns, Snufgob had slowly realised they were lost. Now, facing some spiky humies, things were going to get heated.He and his wolf boyz had charged at the chaos bosses big horse boyz. Using his One Hit Wunda, Snufgob had crushed one Chosen Knights chestplate in and split the helm of another. He even saw one get dragged down from its saddle by one of the boyz wolves!Yet, the wrath of the chaos boss and his big humies was terrible, butchering the goblins to a man, Snufgob among them. Korgoth careened into the lines, facing Grimtoof himself. The melee was terrible but the Orcs had held and now, two hulking trolls crashed into Korgoth's side.
>>98596754Korgoth raged, bellowing warcries and praydrs to Khorne. Lamenting the lack of worthy foes, Korgoth tore through the hordes of greenskins, every swing of his axe carving a bloody wave of gore and green. His mount too, towering over the melee, struck down two orcs in a single swing. Suddenly his mount buckldd as two enormous trolls suddenly assailed his flank. Their gigantic weapons crashed into his armour, badly winding him. With one swing, one of the trolls exploded in a shower of gore, his axe rending it asunder. But the second puked on him, causing a frantic delay in his swing. It was here, Korgoth met his end. Another swing, the Troll was decapitated but its body, too stupid to realise it was dead, tore Korgoth from his mount, slaying the champion.
>>98596681>in fact priestess of elven deityI have stake in this discussion and Bretlore is dumb, but this is ET bullshit.
>>98596681>priestess of elven deityI choose to believe that the lady is not lileath but a land spirit for which lileath is merely one herald, like damsels would also be heralds of this spirit instead of heralds of lileath>butyou cannot convince me otherwise, even the end times say lileath was partially lying about her role
>>98596826The Lady should have been a Naiad that the people of Bretonnia worshiped into godhood.This fits perfectly to the point that only the later GW-writers could have missed this opportunity.
>>98596681>priestess of elven deity - there's literally no reason why they should avoid fuckingThis is fucking hilarious, considering Shallya exists.There seem to be only a few human cultists that practice celibacy and none of them are frequent in Bretonnia.
>>98596566Sound thanks dude!
>>98596847The biggest temple to Shallya, and it's where her cult is based.
Is battlemarch actually fun?
>>98596977Yes anon, and there are in-universe jokes about Shallyan priestesses being sluts.Learn to read.
>>98597003I've had fun playing it.
>>98597006>Learn to read.never
>>98597003It’s not worth it in my opinion. Play 2000 if you’re not new to rolling dice.
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1YPy7Xc5OC5P-PCMeJn9p6HTLh5vFBJlEMH_uKCTUjyk/edit?usp=sharingWhich one is your favorite WCT Army?
>>98596288I find old world builder is a much better tool for list building and specific unit lookup, but new recruit works better for gameplay. I use both because of that, just in case the other dude is still around.
>>98597083Seeing a few chaos lists made of three dragons plus marauder horsemen.
look i know i know, game balance, fairness, etc.......but on what fucking planet is this not full plate armor?what is the point of having a type of armor in your game called full plate if this isnt it?
>>98597277Warriors and chosen and (most) elite infantry aren’t worth running anyway. Just buy the dragon.
>>98597285>don’t run warriors in your WARRIORS of Chaos armyGay
>>98597277This is full plate armour silly :^)
>>98597289It’s not warriors of chaos It’s hordes of chaos.
>>98597277Changes nothing btw. They still have a 3+ in close combat
>>98597361>in close combatwhat about at range? or when it's holding a different weapon?
>>98597375>rangeHuge meme in Old World if you know what you are doing. Just fuck around with skirmishers and put one in front and he other guys to the side/back of the unit and you are already -1 to get hit. next gget the banner for -1 to hit on top of it and a brazen collar on the champ. Now your unit is pretty much imune to ranged attacks from most sources.
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>>98596810> but this is ET bullshit.
>>98596826>I choose to believe that the lady is not lileath but a land spiritThe 'elven gods' predate the elves themselves. One day, early elves encountered a mystical power and decided to worship it, calling it 'Lileath' (however, this does not mean it originates from them or is exclusive to them). Much much later, humans encountered the same mystical force and also chose to worship it, calling it 'The Lady of the Lake
>>98596319>TQYou need something to live for, a reason to get up in the morning.Asking if the Book of Grudges is beneficial to Dwarves is like asking if being hungry and greedy and horny is beneficial to humans: if you think it is, you're arguing against the nature of human existence.
>>98596778Snagrog plunged into the Chaos humies alongside his big uns. With a great WAAAGH, the sound of splintering metal and ripped flesh was deafening. A warrior stepped forward to meet Snagrog, lunging with his runic weapon. Yet, despite its skill and deadly weapon, the blade glanced off Snagrog's bulk. Snagrog, engulfed by battle lust, swung his axe downward into the chaos humies shoulder, plunging straight through the armour into its flesh. He knew it had done damage as a very human cry of pain eminated from the helm. Tearing the axe from the Warriors now mangled body, Snagrog continued to swing, splinters of metal and lumps of flesh bursting from what was once a champion of Chaos (1 wound and 3 overkill!).The big uns too became embroiled, the momentum of their charge seeing chaos warriors falling as choppas crushed plate into flesh or found gaps. So ferocious was this sight, even the warriors of chaos broke, but the Orcs caught them, ripping them apart!
>>98597537The field was theres abd Snagrog let out a great warcry, declaring victory! Although it was just him and his big uns left, they had carried the day!------------Despite this, we later realised we had totally forgotten the Armour of the Damned for Korgoth (reroll hits in melee). As such, i suggested we rewind and replay the last two turns with Korgoth back to full health.Korgoth and the last chosen ran into Snagrog's lads. Korgoth did 5 wounds to Snagrog and despite 5++ x 2 saves, Snagrog fell, AAARGH, and the chaos won. Still an awesome fight and my friend and I want to play that matchup again.
>>98597003I've played one game of Battle March so far, and it was fun, even though it was one of the regular scenarios and not one of the narratives ones it still allowed for plenty of fun tales and banter to be made.
>>98597386>ranged attacks are a meme>you just need to game the system with a sacrificial unit and also buy very specific magical items to protect one of your normal unitsor you could expect the models wearing full plate armor to have full plate armor
>>98597652They still wouldn’t be good.
>>98597361>>98597285
>>98597663Keeping things as they are isn't better.
should I build my Jade Warriors with swords and shields or with halberds?
>>98597803Halberds look ugly, swords are boring.
>>98597803half and half
https://cubicle7games.com/en_EU/blog/warhammer-fantasy-roleplay-fifth-edition-pre-order-details?secret=zD6CBLHSKDx1FyTnbjLfx18qp6W110PO&_kx=t1oCXjjd7DT0znnS47i_jNXKx89QLgAiU5hpGMSCUHrzradAfRLuKvFb1Y1MckbC.UjuGrfWFRP 5th edition
Quick thought exercise: GW is currently releasing these Battle March boxes.Using these boxes a basis, what is the very next model that you'd advise a person to get, for larger aemy building?
>>98597844It's up for pre-order tomorrow.seems like they doing a similar release to what they did with TOWRPG with Dice, map and cards
>>98597844>>98597872I’m excited! First TTRPG book I've preordered in years, and the collector’s edition to boot.
>>98597867More bestigors
>>98597919From the sound of it it's going to be very similar to 4e
>>98597867>Empire Knights or Demigryph Knights >OrcsDoom diver >Wood Elves More Glade Guard >High Elves Another box of shadow warriors/sisters>BeastmenRazorgor
>>98597977High elves could probably do with some extra characters as well
>>98597947(nta)I hope so, I really like 4th. Just needs a bit of cleaning up, which is supposedly what this is mainly. Could end up being my favourite RPG if they do it right.
maybe Skeleton Warriors are getting refreshed after all
Do we not have a rip of the new chaos journal for the g0f1l3?
>>98597867Whichever your particular favorite monster is, each is viable. I suggest preyton personally but its really what you find cool. Beastmen are great for that.>>98597929I can't disagree more, I think they're the worst unit in the army for their use case. Which sucks because they look great and are thematic as hell.>>98597977Razorgor is a good choice of monster as well.
>>98598177Bestigors are best anon. It's in the name
question for the HE heraldry and colorsshould troops like Seaguard or Swordmasters be painted in the colors of their kingdom, or can I paint them as the rest of the army?I want to paint my dudes as Avelorn, because it was my favorite TWH2 campaign
>>98598305Why would you post a video of a pig eating a pig? What a disgusting video.
>>98598052Oh baby. Hold me. If skeletons are getting refreshed I am starting a new army
>>98596646>>98596633I confirm what >>98596592 is saying ; per the wfrp 2nd ed bretonnian splatbook, damsels are reputed to not follow many social rules which dictates the lives of most bretonnian women, for example they go with their hair loose and not covered which is considered vulgar for mot bretonnian women and they are rumored to engage in unmarried sex often thought with no children being born of such unions (which implies the use of contraceptives or abortives)>inb4 strong and free women feminist propagandaI'm as anti-woke and anti-diversity as they come but the book which I'm quoting also clearly say that damsels are an exception and that most bret women have inferior and restrictive places in society; it's also the same book that explicitly say that only highborn bretonnian men are ontologically able to become grail knightsthis lore is anything but woke and was written long before present day madness
Bret lore is kinda dogshit the more you guys post about it ngl.
>>98598466>unmarried sex often thought with no childrenthought=though
>female bestigors and minotaursLost Kingdom sculpts are really hit or miss.
>>98598305>food and cunny enjoyer
>>98598305I'd paint them like the army.
>>98597463And there were other editions were damsels were clearly human and the Lady was hinted at to be a regular goddess of the land. This is a pick and choose your own headcanon case.
>>98598305No, they're specific institutions of their regions.But you can paint them however you like, I won't tell.
It's all Dogre now>>98598588The Lady is the goddess of Bretonnia AKA a human goddess. Fact.
>>98598765Een krant? in deze economie?
>>98598765What's best (and coolest) loadout for dragon ogers, I am partial to the Great Weapons, but the halberds are pretty cool too.
>>98598765Gorgeous sculpts anon, really really nice.
>>98598480Brettonia lore has always been shit unfortunately
>>98598480The only cool part of Bretonnia is Mousillon, and even that’s incredibly lame compared to the proper undead factions.
>>98598480Bretonnia is stuck in a corner unable to be written in any interesting way.Any good rewrite of the faction requires killing its sacred cows.
>>98599048How would >(you) do it if gw gave you carte blanche anon?
I think I would like the newer models if they were heroic scale and not this true scale nonsense. >>98599073Not him but I would just start by making their relationship with the empire stronger and more integral to one another so they can be souped.
>>98599073nta but I’d start by making their relationship with the Empire more antagonistic so they can never be souped ever
>>98599019Mousillon is probably the only reason why I even considered buying Bretonnian knights. The idea of fielding an army of mutated ghouls as Bretonnian peasants and Grail Knights as Blood Knights is such a fucking cool and badass concept and combination.Shame that CA were such niggers to never apply them in Total War Warhammer.
>>98599100>bretonnia empire soupingshit idea
I cant wait for the tomb kings book by mike brooks, I guess it would be announced when the Army also gets its refresh announced.
>>98599201Isn't that just a joke someone in this general made up, or is there actual proof he's doing a TOW book?
has anyone got the new Ogre models? do they all rank up as well as the old ones?
>>98599073split all the contradicting depictions of bretonnia into separate subcultures that coexist within the kingdomspecialise and differentiate them with their own unique stuff and their own drastic extremesaddress the elephant in the room that is the elven connection of the lady of the lake by retconning itnow bretonnia is fourfold>reasonable pre-15th century medieval society around the coasts, ere be guns>6th ed style monty python grimderp especially in the breadbaskets, ere be evil>over the top magic castles on clouds and fey connections, ere be monsters >itinerant warlike crusaders that quest around the world, ere be shared heraldries
>>98599073Squat them and release araby
>>98599211They're the same size, it's just the heads that are smaller so they look bigger in a vacuum
>>98599208I remember reading the comment about the book being a possibility when someone read up on mike brooks linkedin/facebook account, I cant remember which.
>>98599073>revert to the aesthetic of 5th edition with the spirit and lore of 6th and beyondThere you go, faction saved. No one wants to play as the shit-smeared incompetents, they can still be proper knights and commoners without being ridiculous.
>>98599421I think you have that around anon. 6th was when peasants became the shit smeared peasants.
>>98599212>over the top magic castles on clouds and fey connections, ere be monsters Oh you're one of those. Fuck off eh.
>>98599073Beyond the obvious bringing back the "legacy" factions?Ban them from updating models, and bring back all the old ones that they have "updated" since launching the game.Release a AJ that expands the "Realms of Men" faction with lists for Araby, Estalia, and Tilea (it is just the generic Dogs of War units from the 2004 DoW army list).Oh, and revert all of the chink lore back to pre-TW:WH lore and squat the models.
>>98599547You're free to pretend bretonnia is fine as is, with a miniscule fraction of the freedom other factions enjoy and thrive on, and be wrong.
>>98599580I think current Bret’s have a lot more freedom than say, lizardmen in any iteration, tomb kings, wood elves, demons, (maybe) beastmen, and cathay
>>98599594Yeah, no, you're absolutely wrong.
>>98596361Needs more knights
>>98598305Seaguard are literally only from Lothern. Swordmasters are only from the Tower. Neither are something an individual Kingdom can raise their own of
Is there a name for the red, tusked angry face symbol that shows up on a lot of O&G models (and a few ogres)?
>>98601144Da Evil Sun?
Posted at the end of last thread, so it is reposted.Infantry Regiment for the painting contest
>>98601335Why do frogs always have such horrid taste in colour schemes?
>>98601335God those colors really are just vile. The pink is flat, and the jeet skin tone green is as puke inducing as the indians it reminds me of.
>Skeleton Warriors are out of stock and won’t be restockedIs it finally happening?
>>98601749Yup its happening, probably October reveal
>>98601760I hope they’re still mainly naked with maybe a hat or two thrown in. I liked the new skeletons in AoS, but all the time spent painting them is focused on their armor and not the bone part.
Man when the FUCK are we getting dark elves?
>>98601335>painting contestDamn I forgor about that :(Next month maybe
>>98601749>chariots still on saleI thought they were the ones getting refreshed according to rumors. maybe regular skellies just get reboxed. maybe removing one sprue while staying the current price.
>>98598492I don't mind woman units, but they always make them look like shit
>>98598052oh no no no FLGS bros, how are we going to move the stock GW mandated we buy if we wanted Cathay stock?!
>>98596646holy manjaws
>>98596566>zombicidei'd heard about this, where do you get the cheap ones? when i google it i just get the big boxed games
>>98599580Interestingly you'll note if you have another look at the post you're replying to I didn't say any of those fucking things you fucktarded twerp, I just slagged you off for being the kind of massive homopoof who thinks a couple of intentionally OTT Blanche drawings mean Bretonnia should actually literally have floating castles and flying ships, because those things are retarded and so are the people who advocate for them. Like you.
>>98602116fuck off back to /40kg/ with this gay decalfag larp
>>98602116>fucktarded twerp>I just slagged you off>massive homopoofplease for the love of god don't have it be the actual decaltranny in here too
>>98596361Bretonnia battalion
ALERT ALERT THE CHINKS NOW HAVE FOUNDARIES TO MAKE METAL MODELS>>98596442Tomb Scoprions
What rules can the Vamprie Coast use?
>>98596698>>98596665longma balls
>>98601473Don't disrespect the Piccolo dick scheme.
>>98602150They did get a good sight of them!
>>98602143>NOWYou're a decade and some time behind
>>98602143wow just in time for GW to release the plastic kit
>>98602143Isn't six tomb scorpions in a list a bit overkill?
>>98601889NTA but I don't think that anyone will collect all of the pics and make a poll or collab pic like 40k or anything.
>>98598305holy shit, can he get any fatter?
I didn’t buy the skaven, but I did buy the dwarves commanders and Galadriel from the MTO. For the sake of my wallet I pray a retro Dwarf MTO never happens. I would paypig very very hard
>>98602143Id be scared of lead in the casting. If the Chinese can cut corners they will
I'm thinking of a box of tomb king horsemen as a source of horse and human skeletons for basing.
Kislev?
>>98602612I imagine those should be cheapish second hand, depending on how many bought the TK starter set.
>>98602630normal Skeleton Warrior should also be very cheap
>>98602641>>98602630I just like the idea of the charnel pit.
>>98602645Buying the Skull box would also make some sense then
>>98602629Definitely Kislev. Probably a mounted Boyar.
>>98602679Maybe, maybe a Kislev BB team. Although that would be a cruel joke
>>98602679I think it's meant to a pauldron of some kind since it lacks a lower jaw
>>98596646well, I think you could say since unicorns only let virgins ride them in legend,
>>98602629Something for aos vampires?
>>98602684So a space marine or a chaos thing
>>98599073>How would >(you) do it if gw gave you carte blanche anon?I would personally return to the era of "Bretonnia is a wildly satirized 17th century caricature" again. Bring back the musketeers, the scheming cardinals, the powdered wigs and powdered faces. Bring back the long, pompous names, the hon-hon-hon, the busty village girls with wanton smiles and long skirts. Their hunger for Estalia and Tilea constantly forces the Empire to intervene lest they find themselves with a more powerful neighbor. Make the King a true Sun King, a sharp adherent of Solkan who insists Solland was rightful snail clay.
>>98602679their description 'if the worlds of Warhammer have taught us anything, it’s that a seemingly innocuous animal might end up very weird.' doesn't seem that appropriate for Kislev since there is nothing 'weird' about those bears other than being ridden. It makes me think of that AoS 'squat world' rumour which claimed stormcast would be getting bear mounts for one faction.
>>98601886About a month after you start your second choice army. Be a pal and take this one for the team, would ya?
>>98602783do bears even exist in 40k?
>>98602976Space marines are homosexual inherit, but for actual bears, I think space wolves have them. Or chaos marine.
>>98602885Thats not a stormcast faction it was a human kingdom that’s a footnote in the rulebook as background lore. Presumably to allow Kislev proxies
>>98603015I doubt it. It’s probably something for vyrkos, since soulblight is the russ-sorry, Slav expy in Aos.
>>98603035They're all about wolves though, would be surprised to see them get a bear out of nowhere. If it is AoS, it's probably for their upcoming normal dwarf faction.Something like picrel.
>>98602629It's Hamilcar Beareater for AoS. Stormcast always get random "where are they now" 1e BL character model near the end of an edition
>>98603120That bear is clearly uneaten
>>98602684So... a Boyar on foot? With a bear pelt?>>98602682>Honestly a BB team wouldn't be too shocking. We've already had weird picks like the Gnomes and Amazons.
>>98602053my shop sold out of the chaos dragons in a few days
>>98596697Best modern Dark Elf artwork.
>>98603168That was a new model; these are mostly models from the 90s
HASHUT
>>98603201https://youtu.be/UFWs4pYjIYkMy honest reaction
>>98603201bless you
>>98603213He definitely has a Jafar vibe. I really like his little familiar too.
Got a couple of friends into whf but only if I commited to building and painting their models. Since both chose armies I wasn't interested in and I've always prefered painting over playing I agreed. I've noticed the new models designed for TOW are a pain to build. So far I've built and painted>jade warriors, not bad>dragon character, a pain to build>lantern, a pain to build>sentinel, genuinely the worst model I've ever built>duke on pegasus, pretty awful>standard bearer on pegasus, same thing since it's basically the same modelMy question is have you noticed the newer models being far worse to build than the older ones and even worse than similarly aged models for other systems? I gotta build and paint a whole cathay army so I want to know what I've got myself into
WFRP5e is up for order
>>98603289> They will 'commit'> But only if I do all of the fucking work for their own fucking modelsDoesn't sound very 'committed'Just stick to TWW
>Finished building my Orcs and Goblins battalion yesterday, completing it in the month I allotted myself.>Dwarf Battalion arrives today. Hell yeah.
>>98603289It is well known that the sculptor, or whoever cut up the Cathay models for the sprue, did an extremely shitty job. Apparently the new chaos stuff is better and less of an ass pain.However, generally speaking, older models where simpler to assemble because the less dynamic poses and their lack of concern with the ergonomics of the sprue. They didn't mind a box of say 6 ogres taking up a box fucking 4" high, with wide open gaps on the sprue, because shipping was peanuts
If the skeleton warrior refresh is real I’ll definitely pivot into a serious army for them. I think the novelty of getting old models again in TOW definitely has worn off at this point, or at the very least the most interesting ones people would want are stuck in MTO’s.
>>98603331>Apparently the new chaos stuff is better and less of an ass painGlad to see it's just a cathay thing. I'll have to hope it's just a hero/character/centerpiece thing only
>>98603331It really varies. The Jade Warriors and Peasants are fine to put together. The Sentinel is a pain in the dick
>>98603289The new warriors of chaos stuff, from the marauders to the WoC have all been really easy to build. Haven’t touched the dragon but the other characters and knights were easy too.
>>98603336I just want the old VC skeletons back.
>>98603686The TK skeletons are the old VC skeletons minus the shields.
So nobody was gonna email and tell me there was a Sylvania book huhAdded Sylvania and WFRP 5th edition to the WFRP mega
>>98603738BLESSED pastebin anon
>>98603738Were you on holiday or something?Just so you know, WFRP5e core rulebook just came out like two hours ago
>>98603738
The German comp seems to fix a lot of my bugbears with TOW rosters. Bless the krautish autism this time.
>>98603686Do you think that eventually if TOW get remade a VC army, then we the future skeleton warriors box will be used for both TK and VC with a different upgrade kit for each ?
>>98603738Email? Didn't know you had an email.But yeah, I myself found the Sylvania pdf on the PDF general, a couple of weeks ago, not through here.
>>98603734I meant these ones, anon.>>98603756I fucking hope not. 90 burgerbux for skeletons + 50 more for some shields or whatever? Pass. Could always buy third party shields and make some coffin lid shields but still.
>>98603294>>98603738I'm reading it right now, it actually looks like a complete rulebook, unlike the 4th one
>>98603981Yeah, I did like that they have multiple examples of successes and failures of certain skills, which is a nice feature for an inexperienced group.lot of it was kept over from the 4e rulebook, including art and whole paragraphs of text, but others are radically altered and changed
>>98604034Damn, C7 STIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILL GOT IT
>>98604034>which is a nice feature for an inexperienced groupPeople often forget how unfriendly for beginners 4e was, lots of holes the DM had to fill upAlso I was hoping there wouldn't be any mention of this faggot in the credits, oh well.
>>98604148Probably a legal thing, since they wrote the original text for a lot of this.
>>98603738danke
>>98604148They probably use his stuff from the 4e rulebook might be the same reason Graeme Davis is credited even though he said he would never work with C7 again after the bad experience he had working on the 4e version of TEW.I doubt any of those people are getting a paycheck from this book though I guess you could ask on one of Andy Law's streams
>>98603738Lisan Al-Ghaib you return!!
>>98604148Who Andy Law? Isn't he too busy chatting up troons and grooming Loremaster of Sotek?
>Order Dwarf Mountain Holds box from Amazon.>Box arrives beat to shit, holes in lid. >Side seals cut.>Inside it is empty sprues.Fuck Amazon sellers and scammers alike.
>>98603738Based
>>98604198Davis seemed pissy that they didn't offer him any more work after he finished the TEW remaster to the extent that he suggested he was going to be in financial difficulties as a result. That sounds like someone not managing their finances and career and reliant upon work that was never promised.
>>98604396At least its Amazon, you'll get a refund 100%
>>98604394Sounds like you know who he is then
>>98604424I plan on trying to do so. The seller has some awful reviews left on their store page.
>>98604437Oh I know who he is, was just wondering if that's who you were referring to. Odd guy. Wish it'd come out why C7 sacked him from running the RPG so soon into it's relaunch.
>>98604501He just got in a fight with the C7 boss and Gw basically.
Seems like C7 can't use Drachnfells' name anymore, wonder why GW backed away from this since the 4e timeline does mention him in this same sectionpic is the 5e one
>>98604528Was the Fimir rape rant part of why he was fired, or was that another issue?
>>98604562And this is the 4e one Seems like an utterly random change but i guess GW doesn't want to deal with the headache of trying to make the book itself canon
>>98604568The what
>>98604568I have no idea, it could really be anything that was to much for them,You could probably try to pry the truth from one of the C7 writers at a con or something
>>98604562GW generally don't use Drachenfel's name, they use a generic title for him when he's referenced as a Mortarch in the End Times.
>>98604593It's just a change from 4e where he referenced a lot, he even had a cult in Ubersreik
So, any changes of note from 4e to 5e? They changed spellcasting again didn't they?
>>98604642Isn't it just the channelling rules from Wings of Magic?
>>98604562Is this because the guy who wrote the books retained the rights or something
>>98603738There is also a new edition of TOW corerules book (just in case).
when are we getting MONGOLIAN chaos warriors?
>>98604580THE FIRMIR RAPE.
>>98602120>>98602133What the fuck are you warbling about you samefagging troon? Look I get it, your taste is shit and you have no argument, but inventing boogeymen and pretending anyone who points out what a lame homosexual you are is them is just pathetic.
>>98602133He pops in here sometimes, sadly.
>>98604580>he doesn't know about the raping Fimir
>>98604760>>98604851I know about fimir rape, I'm asking what Andy law has to do with it
>>98604855He was the victim. Sued Cubicle 7.
>>98604804Go back.
>>98604855According to rumour (I'll prefix as so), Andy had a heated internal debate on the Fimir, specifically the lore bit of them being prominent rapists; and how he called the disagreeing party (the ones that wanted to keep that aspect) bigoted.I mean, can you imagine a female Fimir pinning down a defenseless Empire soldier and rape him on the spot
I wish I was a night goblin
I'd rather be a mind goblin
>>98604804>>buzzwords
>>98604927>Sued Cubicle 7.Did he actually do this?
I wish I could rape a night goblin.
I wish I was a cute skaven
I wish I was shagging a goblin
I wish I was gobblin a shaggoth
I wish I was a chorf taskmaster that could whip you homos for being retarded
I wish I had a chorf taskdaddy that could whip me a cream pie
What was in that wfrpg leak to have you guys behave like this now?
>>98605007Not sure you can sue a company for being raped by a fictional species.
We have a Gnome Sighting in 2026, with new art even
>>98605119something about them and halflings being included just makes the setting worse. Idk why.
>>98605139because it's a blatantly obvious ripoff that serves no purpose in the settingyou could remove them and nothing really changes
>>98605139Halflings are alright - Gnomes are a bit too twee fantasy for me. Didn't they appear in something 4e as well? They are also in Blood Bowl, which while an alt universe only includes races from the mainline universe.
>>98605165You would lose a lot of sex jokes if the halflings went away.On a side note, there are no Fimir stat lines in the 5e rulebook, so it looks like they're back in the don't reference them by name pile
>>98605168yeah that were they first reappeared in the first Splat Book for 4e
>>98605119gno way
>>98605168>Gnomes are a bit too twee fantasy for me.My only issue with them is the excessive connection to ulgu.Not many races have such a heavy handed connection to a single wind, it would make way more sense if different groupings of gnomes focused on different winds given the plethora of concepts and themes usually associated with them, and it's obviously just a cheap handwaving to explain why they weren't mentioned for so long, but that kind of meta tie in isn't needed for retroactive additions.
>>98605197that's just a pink skinned goblin
Really like this little fellow.Shame he's resin though.
>>98605306I really love all the resin wizards and familiars except the elementalist (I like his frog familiar though)
>>98604642No more bonus SLs from talents is pretty big
>>98604642here an apendix were they talk about changes from 4e to 5e
>>98603738Interesting changes to char gen in 5th ed. They got rid of resolve&resilience (and good riddance) and uncouppled fate&fortune. Still does the whole "roll random and get rewards, or pick custom" thing.Start by rolling race. If you keep the result, you get +1 Fortune (still hero points/rerolls, but now you can spend them before you roll to get advantage or after to reroll, but be forced to keep the new result)Then you roll career. If you keep it, you get 2 trappings of your choice from rank 2 of that career. or roll 2 more, and get 1 trapping from rank 2. Or pick, and only get rank 1 trappings.Finally, stats. Roll 2d10+racial bonus for each stat, in order. If you keep the results, increase your 3 career-specific attributes by 6 points in total (so 2 each or all 6 into one, whatever). or shuffle them, and put 3 points into your career specific attributes. or do 100 pointbuy (min 4, max 16, used to be 18 in 4e).if you go with the first rolled result for all three steps, you also get +1 fate (still single use points to not die or succeed at any test)other than that, stat and skill increases got simplified. Instead of buying them 1 point at a time, you now get "advances" which represent a +5 boost. Costs in exp are about the same as before. Careers work like before, but changing or advancing career now ear a downtime activity. Which makes sense, I suppose. Still costs 100 exp to upgrade or change and 200 to change to a career in a different class. Classes are the same as before.
Does anyone have the latest AJ march of chaos pdf?
>>98605504Careers now all have 10 skills at rank 1, instead of the previous 8, so you finally have some variety in how you play your career before rank 2.Upgrading careers still escalates, in cost, but is more freeform now. You need 10 advances to get from rank 1 to 2. All advances count, so you can put 1 advance into all of your 3 attributes and then need 7 more for rank 1. or, theoretically, you could put all 10 advances into skills and none into attributes. Or put 6 into attributes, increasing each twice, and then 4 into skills. Neat stuff.Spellcasting also exists. But the only good wizard is a dead one, so I've never looked into the old rules for it nor do I plan to look at the new ones.Corruption works the same. You still get to do a challenging cool or endurance check, and corruption still comes in 3 exposure levels, but giving into the 4 chaos good emotional states no longer causes corruption checks. Finally slayers and flagellants aren't forced to become khorne berserkers anymore.Mutations are mostly exactly the same, still endurance check to avoid the mutation. Tables are almost the same, only "GM's choice" on physical mutations got replaced with "spiny protrusions" with no mechanical effect, for some reason? Weird, but fine I guess.Money is the same. 1g = 20c = 240bWeapon Reach is no longer an optional rule. Having a longer reach now always gives +1 SL when defending against shorter weapons.Hand Weapons are unbalanced (-1 SL when using them to defend) by default now, and cost 2GC. If you want a Hand Weapon without Unbalanced, you need to buy a Sword for 4GC. Other than that, not much changed for weapons. Seems fine to have dodge actually be better than just melee for defense now, thanks to hand weapons being unbalanced.
>>98605592I think they added some more spells either from Winds of Magic or elsewhere, since I don't remember Witches getting a healing spell or Hedge Wizards' fertility magic potion, so I would guess the coloured lores got some new spells as wellThe hand weapons are unchanged since C7 still expects people to buy Up in Arms and use the weapons from that book
>>98605592Shields are no longer weapons, but call out that they can be used as improvised weapons with the defensive quality. Otherwise, they add +1 SL (does not stack with defensive) to all Dodge and Melee rolls meant to defend yourself. If you get hit anyhow, you add the shield AP against the attack regardless of hit location. If the shield has 2+ AP, 8so normal or large shield) you get to dodge ranged attacks at any range, similar to before.Armor is the same as before, statwise, and got 50-300% more expensive. Only the boiled leather breastplate disappeared for some reason. Armor still weighs 1 less than printed when worn, and you can still stack leather under mail under plate for a total of 5 AP.The price increases for armor are pretty crazy. The prefab "quick" armors went from 2/5/30GC for Light/medium/heavy to 8/44/88 GC. Though they do now give the "stacked" AP values of 1/3/5, respectively, rather than 1/2/3 as before.Trappings don't seem to have changed much, but torches are STILL lost technology and not mentioned anywhere in the book (outside of the Light spell, which creates light like a torch, apparently).
>>98605581There should be a low quality pdf in the op link
>>98605635Yeah, but weapons actually got worse from Up in Arms. UiA added the unabalanced trait, but usually as some kinda tradeoff. So a Mace would be a handweapon with Pummel and Unbalanced, an axe would be hack + unbalanced, etc, while the sword would be the "default" handweapon with no traits.But swords cost 4x as much, and all the special Unablanced+good trait got replaced with just unbalanced and nothing else for double the old price.I get why they did it, so defensive fighting would be harder, but I'm not really sure what's up with the price inflation.
>>98605504they have the option to buy 1 point at a time in the appendix
>>98605504Weirdly enough, they got entirely rid of Short-term ambitions, which in my experience were a really nice addition to the system?You still have the old long-term ambitions (now just called ambitions) both for your character and for the party.Character Ambitions can now reward 50exp each time you make "significant progress" towards them. Examples given are killing one of the five assassins who killed your father, but not buying a sword to do the same.Party Ambition is different now. still supposed to be long-term, but it doesn't grant you exp when achieved. Instead, everyone gets a Fate point. That IS cool, but for some reason they aren't giving any examples here, when I really want to see what they think qualifies as a party ambition worth a fate point now.And the smaller, more in the moment goals like deciding you want to fuck over a particular NPC because he slighted you or or making friends one you liked are entirely gone. Weird choice.
>>98605685Evidently torches are no longer lost technology, spotted on page 316
>>98605852Huh! First thing I did when opening that book was ctrl+f torch, and it didn't show up. But there it is. Finally! Thanks for showing me the light, Anon.
if i have a magic standard on a unit standard (not a BSB) and they're killed and someone else picks up the banner, is it still that same magic standard? so it will remain in the unit until its down to the last man? also, if i lose enough models that my whole front rank is wiped out, is the unit champion no longer in the unit or do i just pull another regular guy from the next rank?
>>98605884Yes to the first question. Your unit champion only dies when he is specifically targeted. Consult page 199 of the rulebook.
>>98605884Unless optionally targetted the champion is in the front rank until its killed. If he dies, yeah you just fill in his spot with a goober guy.
>>98605831>Weirdly enough, they got entirely rid of Short-term ambitionsI guess they wanted to simplify this part of the character sheet, a bit like they removed the "Motivation".
>>98605482The Advantage/momentum change is kinda lame. Momentum only applies to melee attacks now. So no more Advantage/Momentum for ranged combat.
>>98606020get rekt bitch meleechads win again
>>98603981Aw they took out Fimir, was Andy Law actually the one keeping them in the whole time?Also wtf they buffed halflings?
Have you ever indulged in a game of Warhammer: The Old World against a foid?
>>98606182>Aw they took out Fimir, was Andy Law actually the one keeping them in the whole time?see >>98604966
I think 5e is good. I like it.
>>98606185Oh, almost exclusively. A biofoid though? Not yet.
>>98604928I was here first.>>98604986>concessionThanks. Do better, anon.
>>98605255That's literally the point of them, they exist for D&D refugees who don't really give a fuck about Warhammer to play basically-PC goblins or Dwarfs that use magic, because you can take the snowflake out of the D&D but never the D&D out of the snowflake.Just be greatful they haven't yet managed to find some obscure one-liner from the original Realm of Chaos to let Tieflingfags indulge themselves.
>>98606843We won't have to worry about them again when the Warcraft 5e book drops.
>>98606185Never. Mordheim once, which was enough of a surprise. Nice girl too, came with her husband but she'd painted her own Sisters of Sigmar warband and it was good. Twice more if you counted >>98606814 with the... self made ladies, who were, to their credit, easygoing and knew the rules. And that's better than normal for the human detritus you meet at conventions. >>98606843Eh. The mere presence of lore I don't like indignifies the setting. There's nothing to like about gnomes in their C7 depictions or elsewhere, halflings have the cynically parodic character that makes them fit into Warhammer's earlier editions, fat little useless bastards who happen to be alright shots with a bow. Gnomes feel like they offer nothing, and dilute the setting both via genericism and just by Adding More Shit.
are there any restrictions on when you can use an army of infamy? like any legality issues? or are they perfectly legal in all forms of play and its just alternate rules?im a little confused on weather they are supposed to be narrative content or if they are legal for regular formats too just like the main army
>>98606185The only female that was into wargaming was my last roomates fiancee. But we never got a game in because she was more into the hobby and not the gaming itself.
>>98606185Did two demo games for a chick who wanted to play orcs. Nobody could bring themselves to even talk with her at the 40k area so she came over to play fantasy. We also have a grog in her 60s who basically only plays OPR, but has a few different fantasy armies she swaps between.Otherwise, we had 2 women in 7th and 8th edition way back that was part of the tournament scene. One orcs and the other... WoC or Daemons, I can't remember which. Or it might have been either based on the day? They both did ok.
