Oldhammer Gameplay>Mind your positioning so you can hit tanks in their side, or even rear armor>Make sure to manage your morale or else your force will break and lose cohesion>Be wary of infantry, even a tactical squad can have a lascannon destroy your strongest tank>Play in a wide variety of battlefields>Both sides have a reinforced platoon in 28mm scale on a well sized 6x4 board>Your units are exceptionally customizableNuhammer Gameplay>REROLL REROLL REROLL>Every unit does exactly statistically average at all times, failure to do so causes a player to quit>Infantry are fodder meant to die on objectives for +8 VP, unless they have a named character providing buffs>Play on the same map, forever>Both sides have anywhere from 4 mini-titans to over a hundred 32mm scale models all crammed into a tiny board>All units are exactly the same, you cannot build them with different weapons. Posing them for advantage will have you kicked out of the LGSWhat happened?
do you huff your own farts so often you've become dulled to the taste of shit in your mouth
>>98599605Been playing since 94 and Warhammer seems less tactical, but I'm still having fun with the abilities and combos that weren't available back in the 90's.
Horus Heresy game exists for a reason.
>>98599605The endless rerolls are probably the worst part of nuhammer. I ban them at my table. I don't care if it breaks some armies. There are several people in our play group that refuse to play when it's my turn to host because of that house rule, but tough shit. I also make vehicle facing matter by reintroducing firing arcs for vehicle weapons instead of that nuhammer "all vehicle weapons can fire omnidirectionally" shit they started with 8th.
>>98599605>Posing them for advantage will have you kicked out of the LGSOldhammer player here and I have absolutely zero problems with this. I lived through unironically crawling wraithlords, lascannon teams on top of light poles, people modeling walls on their infantry bases to claim cover saves, and a wood elf green dragon with removable neck extensions so it's head could be adjacent to your deployment zone so it can place a flame template turn 1 but you have to draw los to its base.Fuck those people who modeled for advantage and ruined modeling and kitbashing for the rest of us. We shouldn't stop at banning them from the LGS. They should be strung up, every one of them.
>>98599605>Putting 5e in the same category as 4e and older editions>Acting like ANY of the 40k editions was actually goodNGMI
>>98600929>Fuck those people who modeled for advantage and ruined modeling and kitbashing for the rest of us.All easy to solve by finally dropping the goddamn awful True Line of Sight and embracing the 2D Line of Sight instead. Warhammer mind can't comprehend this.
>>98599605In correct RT and 2E should be their own category. 3rd-5e should be a catagory.
>>98600712What are you doing retard just host an older edition or alternative ruleset like Custom40k.
>>98601413I'd say 3rd and 4th. Wound allocation and tlos in 5th were way too jarring
5th is trash. 4th is by far the most decent version of 40k.
>>98599605>muh jews
Rogue Trader was garbage
>>98600712>WE ARE PLAYING IT THIS WAY OTHERWISE IM TAKING MY BALL AND GOING HOME.Fuck you sound pathetic, just play an earlier edition.
>>98602466NTA, but imagine getting this angry over someone else's house rules...
>>98602512Yeah because they're dogshit house rules. We discuss /tg/ here if you are doing retarded shit we call you retarded.
>>98600929You know if you just used an abstracted system based on model volume templates this wouldn't be a problem right? GW is too fucking successful to be this stupid. Pretty sure Infinity had it working in their first edition.Make space marines a 25mm x 50mm cylinder centered on their base. Done. Your modeling is no longer impacting the game and a hobbyist can do whatever the fuck he wants.
>>98602826But why get angry over something that doesn't affect you personally? Do you play at his table?
>>98600929There was some player at my LGS years and years ago who modelled his marines as periscopes sticking out of the ground with bolters on them which was supposed to make them untargetable.
>>98603179Based
>>98600929Literally none of these should have ever been acceptable. The crawling wraithlord is the only one you can even argue follows the "spirit" of a wargame because one could reasonably take cover, but the idea of playing with someone who uses his expensive models and makes them pose in a retarded manner for the bare minimum of an advantage is just so obviously not worth it.The others you can't even make an argument of it making sense in universe. The lightpoles, walls, etc, are they supposed to be dragging them along as they go? Bases are meant to be abstractions, tactical rocks are kind of a meme for a reason. Does the dragon's neck extend like inspector fucking gadget?
>>98600929Don't forget the other side of all that, anon. Modelling something cool and finding out it's a *disadvantage*. Like putting your Marine Captain up on a big rock waving his sword, which means that he extends above other models and therefore the other player can draw a LOF to him over the heads of the screening infantry unit.