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How the fuck can you tell which detachment gets what disposition? I can't find shit.
>>98602595>TQI'll probably end up painting this.
>>98602595>TQI honestly have no idea. I have a couple old CSM minis from when I started in storage and I could strip and repaint one, but I don't wanna do that to my first minis, even if I don't use them anymore.
>>98602604App. I fucking hate how much they force you to use the thing.
>>98602604https://mfm.warhammer-community.com/en
>>98602608They are trying to get everyone on the app so they can rug pull them later. Right now it's technically free if you just want to play the game, but once they have enough people on the app, they'll make it so you have to subscribe to continue using it.
Repostan Bile and his boys.Post models.
>>98602623which one of these offers the best dental services?
>>98601260I would ordinarily think this is really petty, and toward anyone else I wouldn’t think they care for my opinion or basic attention, but this is the second time you’ve bitched, so I just want to say I’ve seen your posts, but haven’t once opened up the image to see your models up close or replied to you about them, and its not because I don’t like models or model posters, in fact, I make it a point to reply and compliment any model post I see, and its not because your models might be badly painted, its purely because its custodes. they’re fucking BORING. lore, gameplay, models, paintjob literally everything about them is a snoozefest, and its only made slightly worse by them having women now so some retards buy them to “own le chuds”. you clearly crave any attention for your good effort, so take the effort and use that money you saved buying a shit army to buy an actual good army (anything other than custodes). thank you.
>>98602613You don't have to use the app at all, and they've made codexes cheaper this edition. The primary business is selling models not rules.
>>98602655Cope. They are clearly pushing people towards the app.
I like orks :D>>98602623posting! what should I put on the warboss’ base? its a bit barren right now, and sadly the tactical marine is too big to fit.
femstodes are kinda hot ngl
>>98602666YeahI just wish the models were anywhere close to the horny my brain conjures at the thought
will they fix the dreadknight?
>>98602666I won't let you corrupt me, Satan. My cause is just and my heart is pure. Femstodes were a mistake.
>>98602664Army builder apps have been extremely popular for a long time, but it's somehow objectionable that GW made their own. Where is the "clear push"? If anything they're using it to push declining book sales.
>>98602665That table is disgusting.
>>98602626Either EC or IW guy
>>98602623Got caught at the end of the last thread so reposting. Btw thanks to anons who replied in the last thread had a fun chuckle at them.
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
I'm actually quite excited about the crashed thunderhawk. It's probably gonna be overpriced as hell but this is the kind of terrain the game needs. Varied and thematic, not just a bunch of ruins. It's probably not gonna be enough for a whole board but it's easy to mix with some jungle terrain or some desert rocks. Or even some printed titan parts for a battlefield graveyard board.
>>98602700It's four pieces, of course it's not for a whole board.
>>98602700I wonder what the sprues for the new intercessors will look like. GW often adds in bunch of detail options into those that they just don't show off for some weird reason.They did that with the Sternguard multipart kit, the images of the models use the most bland looking shin plates, etc. Even though there are ones with nice details in the kit.
>>98602655The codexes don't have points in them
>>98602706The wolf guard terminators for some reason have all the best heads hidden in the sprue.
>>98602700>Once upon a time
>>98602671Much more likely to look back on the baby carrier with fondness for when that was the worst thing to happen to your faction.
>>98602712Had to show the burger heads for the marketing shots
>>98602714I only ever saw one of these and the store never used it even for displays because it was warped as shit
>>98602714Nice for a diorama, but the standalone pieces are a lot better. You can still integrate them into a diorama with a bit of work and you can just put them on top of a mat for regular games.
>>98602706Unless they are hiding actual different mark pieces in the sprues (they aren't) and hiding some special weapons for the squad (they aren't) I don't see any reason to be excited about it. Even tormentors get a couple of plasmas or meltas and can build the melee version out of the box.
>>98602719Best resin in the world!(tm)>>98602721It was from the era when GW sold tables in square sections. You could play a tiny game on it, but for regular battles you'd assemble it with others.
Custodes codex and combat patrol are out of the gw page so I guess they're third after marines. Tau 4th.They also took out the new shield captain for some reason.
>>98602706>>98602726My wishlist:>mk6 and Mk7 helmets (more than 1 each, especially since the armageddon intercessors had 2 mk7 helmets)>front shins separate and easily interchangeable>chest separate and interchangeable too)If it sucks I'll just wait for HH mk7 marines
>>98602727I know, I was there for the rise and fall of the realm of battle plastic boards. Even back then a flat mat + terrain pieces on top was the superior way of making boards.
>>98602734>hh mk7enjoy 5 monopose bodies only and helmets that are too small even for the bodies they're made for
>>98602726Tormentors look so sexy it makes me lament the loss of what could have been properly updated classic marines.
>>98602714Would this have slotted into the Realm of Battle table, or was it a different size?
>>98602730>They also took out the new shield captain for some reason.He might be going in the new Combat Patrol.
>>98602740I'd rather have 5 identical poses and work around it for models I actually like, than having to spend hours, more effort and money to fix primaris in GW's stead.
>>98602744I'm sad I can't do a 1:1 of this handsome lad
>>98602744>Tormentors look so sexyand other jokes to tell ourselves at night
>>98602740>helmets that are too small even for the bodies they're made forForced meme. Also I'll gladly take 5 bodies with modular weapons that allows tacticals and devastators to exist than getting rid of those units.
>>98602748I'm pretty sure there's a couple of helmets that look just like that in the kit, top knot and all. The legs from that one are in the kit too.
>>98602755>Forced meme.No it isn't you fucking retardThere's supposed to be a head that fits in that thing and it's in scale for a bare head for the body it sits onThey're WAY too smallEven primaris helmets are too small but they're not as bad as the nu-HH half-assed truescale slop
>>98602758Nah, I checked. You can get closer to this guy for the helmet, but leg wise there isn't one with the face and the sock
>>98602770There's the face and there's the sock. You can cut them and mix them.
>>98602770PRIMARIS EARS??????
>>98602773Honestly just greenstuff a sock, would be less effort
>>98602775*mk8
>>98602781>gorget>primaris ears>ankle balls>armored midsectionthis is a primaris marine
>>98602785congratulations on finding out the designer for mk8 and the designer for mkx and the designer for the old slaanesh marine are the same person
>>98602707Because they have a page on warhammer community with the points on them. No need to use the app whatsoever.
>>98602785The difference being that for mk8 they had a cohesive identity (up armored/bulky) instead of throwing extra details on a truscaled marine.I wish the Mk8 redesign stuck around longer, but alas.
>>98602781Actual mk8 looks a lot better than primaris because it doesn't have the fucked up lanky torsos and it has a properly chonky boltgun.
>>98602798Are the new ork points in there or those will be uploaded this saturday?
still can't believe we've reached a stage where people genuinely pretend centurions and mk8 weren't universally hated before 2017
>>98602813Likely sometime during this week.
>>98602809Preach.>Not able to mass deploy Mk8>10k years for a slightly better mk7>How better? Added more armor and strenghtened internal systems.>In short: purposefully not an advancement or revolution, perfect translation of the lack of innovative capabilities, fear of innovation and in essence crude (bulkier vs sleeker)>so little supply of it it's rare to see a full suit, and is more often reserved for veterans/officers>PRIMARIS FOR EVERYONE!!>It's okay, we just made thousands in secret>What do you mean then it means we absolutely had the capabilities now?>What do you mean it changed the imperium from lacking the capability to just being retarded? Durrr buy more biggerer space marines plzzzzA toast, to 10 more years of shitting on GW's retarded bullshit
>>986028161) they weren't2) why would we have to care about what the majority thinks? Are you some kind of faggot?
>>98602816It's because primaris have been such an unrelenting stream of pure dogshit that Centurions went from the worst looking units to middle-of-the-road
>>98602608>>98602610Thanks.
>>98602809Why does this pic get posted every thread now?
>>98602833>1) they weren'tThey were>2) why would we have to care about what the majority thinks? Are you some kind of faggot?Clearly you do or you wouldn't be trying to revise history about the opinions about them>>98602834There are only three primaris kits that come anywhere near as bad as centurions and one of them just got squatted
>>98602834Trying way too hard.
>>98602838>nuh-uh & no u
>>98602837because the terminally online marine hater is clinging to it to shitpost
>>98602843Neither of those things were said but nice try
>>98602838Aggressors, eradicators, eliminators, inceptors, jump pack intercessors, invader atv, gladiator, repulsor, firestrike, and impulsor is a lot more than 3 anon.
>>98602850All of those are far better than centurions.
>>98602853Kek primaris timmy melty
>>98602850>old good new badgive it a rest, dipshit
>>98602849>they weren't>they werenegation (nuh-uh)>why do you care?>Well you doreversal (no u)Congratulation, you spoke when you shouldn't have and collapsed your entire shitpost on your own. Daddy must be so proud.
>>98602809Actual mk8 is lanky and bolters were never as large as in that image.
>>98602855You can have a show of hands and see how many posters have centurions and how many have those units.Do you think people like and have centurions? Do (you) have centurions?
>>98602850Oh I forgot the invictor, heavy intercessors, and the storm speeders>>98602853Eh, maybe? The centurions are pretty awful. I haven't listed a single good looking unit though.>>98602856Yes, when they make a new thing and it sucks shit through a straw, new is bad.
>>98602860nta but how is that lanky? That bolter is a chonky brick
>>98602866Nta but the gorgets really make them top heavy and the reinforced cuisses don't help. Same problems that MkX has
>>98602862ntab why must people have something to praise it, but can bash it freely?Things are good or bad regardless of you having them.Sounds to me like you're trying to attack the person and not the point.
>>98602860That looks dumb af.
>>98602868Isn't that a problem with the updated proportions and not the armor mark?Is mk8 lanky or is it a lanky marine who happens to be in mk8?
>>98602837I saw it posted the other day and liked how it looked and saved it. I got a bunch of those colourplates from IA and Index Astartes. They scratch my buttoncounter autism.
>>98602862Centurions are dogshit, but they are still better than primaris.
>>98602850only the aggressors and inceptors on that list are anywhere near as bad as centurionstry again
>>98602859Only one shitposting here is (you) by pretending ANYBODY likes mk8 let alone the dogshit that are centurions
>>98602860Lanky? That's the exact same proportions as all the upscaled CSM which is accurate to what marines should have always looked. Primaris have torsos that are too long, making them have the proportions of a normal person.
>>98602870Why wouldn't he attack a shitposter who's only response was>kek melty>>98602888trips of truth
>>98602881Every primaris jump pack is worse than centurions because of the retarded flaps and heel jets.
>>98602892>That's the exact same proportions as all the upscaled CSMNo it isn't, leg thickness is different, torso to leg ratio is differentNot even the same height
I still don't like centurions but they were never a problem and easy to ignore. I can't ignore primaris because they've completely replaced all the units I actually like.
>>98602881Aggressors being as bad as centurions is because of gravis armor. Gravis armor is basically primaris centurions and it looks just as terrible. The big problem with centurions is that they're huge and greebly, making the models look suffocated, and you can apply all of that to anything gravis, inceptors, grav tanks, and JPIs. Tbf firestrikes and invictors don't have that problem but they're just retarded in their own special needs way
Man I honestly could not give a fuck about the Firstborn vs Primaris shitfight anymore.
>>98602837Have a later artwork
>>98602903>Gravis armor is basically primaris centurions and it looks just as terribleblind and retarded
>>98602866>nta but how is that lanky?adjust the height of both a mk8 and mkx deathwatch and the mk8 will show that it has thinner legs, waist and chest that makes it relatively lanky
>>98602888>Doubling downBold today, aren't we?
>>98602913god I never noticed how bad a job they did gluing the torso to the legs on the right model almost the entire ball and socket is visible lmao
>>98602912I mean at this point it's just aesthetic taste. But I think gravis is fucking ugly and I feel the same way looking at it that I do looking at centurions.
>>98602899Every single upscaled marine has had the exact same proportions since the release of the DW veterans and thousand sons kits in 2016. The upper body is the exact same size as the classic marines, helmets a bit smaller, mainly because they made the ears a lot smaller, making the heads less wide. The difference comes from the legs, yeah, but the torsos are the same.
>>98602916No need to vary things up when you're just shitposting in response
>>98602892>That's the exact same proportions as all the upscaled CSMNo, they aren't, csm got made thicker.>Primaris have torsos that are too longNo, they aren't too long, they have the proportions of a superhuman of their height.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98602870>Why wouldn't he attack a shitposter who's only response wasBecause he's proving him right? And not just in a>haha u mad so u wrongway, since his reply to "u mad" was to make yet another fallacy.He should have ignored it, but thankfully he didn't and exposed himself.
>>98602932>exposed himselfspoken like a desperate shitposter trying to deflect
>>98602926>No, they aren't, csm got made thicker.No?> they have the proportions of a superhuman of their height.They have the proportions of a human of their height. Marines don't have natural proportions.
>>98602595>tq I've got a box of metal Harlies from when they were MTO. I may Do one of them. Also have a finecast lelith sitting in a box. Depends on the time I have.
>>98602935Thank you for illustrating the point
>>98602913No the MkX definitely has thinner legs. They both have the problem where the real legs are much thinner than the half perceived silhouette because of the reinforced thigh armor. Also the MkX appears to have a thicker waist but that's from the tassets. I've peeled some bladeguard trying to convert them to MkVII, and once you get past the greebles Primaris are lanky as fuck
>>98602937This has been true for decades. The art and colour plates never had the same heroic scale proportions as the models yet they were always consistent in the chest/leg proportions of marines.
>>98602948
Once again the armor mark debate becomes a proportion debate.
>>98602955
>>98602937>No?yes, they don't have the same fuckup on the legs and waist as the deathwatch
>>98602816Centurions were always beloved by people with artistic skill
Just finished this little wrecking ball, he did decently in his first game as well
>>98602870Both the person and the point have been attacked and successfully dismantled.
>>98602963Because they made the legs and chest a single piece, but the size of the chest and the length of the legs is the same. Thousand Sons avoided the problem because every model has a tabard hiding the hips.
I want to make a thousand sons list with only demon engines and tzaangors with the bare minimum amount of marines and still have it be good.
>>98602975why can't this be a demon list?
>>98602977Tzaangors aren’t demons, also because I won’t have enough dpp to soup in demons.
>>98602968He looks happy
>>98602948>>98602955>>98602955Why are they always popping a squat? Why can't they stand upright?
>>98602972>but the size of the chest and the length of the legs is the same.no, it isn't, they made them thicker
>>98602966You don't belong here.
>>98602975warpforged cabal3 tzaangor shamans & 3 exalted sorc on discs (protip, buy a box of tzaangor enlightened for the 3 discs to use on the 2 discless sorcerers) to babysit your vehicles for rerolls on hit/wound/saves
>>98602937>Marines don't have natural proportionsYes, they do, they're muscular and their armor isn't skin-tight, but underneath they don't suddenly have a comically short torso and comically thin legs.
>>98603010You don’t dictate that
>>98602955One hell of a splitCool curved power sword, are there any of those in any of gw's current sets?
>>98602999Because it looks better.
>>98602999Marine armor is designed very stupidly and if they stood normally their fuckhuge retarded boots would knock together.
>>98602960Those are the proportions of a primaris, retard.
>>98602929>40% winrate>No MFM changes
>>98602856Why do you hate the truth? Old is good and new is bad. Anything made after 2012 (not just in Warhammer, but everything in the entire world) is trash. That's around when corpo slop took over and creativity died.
>>98603098Man you’re corny
>>98602623Postin dakkarig progress.Painting is such a good way to calm down, man. Was having a shitty day and doing the Ork skin was just really nice.>>98602665I've always enjoyed taking random spare bits and adding them as debris. Got a random barrel you can cut up or maybe a rhino door?
>>98603103Not an argument. You have to resort to insults because you can't actually refute what I said. So I ask again: Why do you hate the truth? Is it because you're angry about coming in long after the glory days have passed?
>>98603109Nice purple dakkarig
>>98603109Fuck me, forgot pic.
>>98603110When do you plan on buying your first model anon?
>>98603113Ukrainian ork?
>>98603115>Still can't make a coherent argument against the points raisedI accept your concession.
>>98603119Kek didn't even realize Just an unfinished banner at the moment. Probably gonna look something like the banner in picrel
>>98603119Bosnian ork to fight the Bosnian knight
>>98603121
>>98602706Probably like they did with the tactical squad box. The one that got discontinued was the second iteration of a nearly identical kit, but with more weapon options and more head and powerpack variants.I think I might wanna track down some tactical boxes just for the bits.
>>98603142>Posting cringe gifsNow who's the corny one?
>>98602665>marine wont fithalf a marine
>>98603154Oh yeah?>pulls your pants down>rips open your underwear>spreads your asscheeks>tongues your prostate until you cumWho's the big guy now?
>>98602695Has Mister Squeaks ever been shoved up Bae's rectum?
>>98602623Also posted at the end of last thread so we do a little reposting.
>>98603160Honey! Not in front of the 4chan posters!
>>98603098>2012Nah, this sort of shit is old. Pretty sure I was bitching about retarded GW corporate practices back then and much of the stuff I liked had already been shit to death by corporate. Off the top of my head; warcraft as a setting, C&C, AvP, etc. 2012 marked an uptick, but it wss shit before then too.
>>98603160Is this what passes for comedy these days? Sheesh…
>>98603160Sounds kinda gay, anon.
>>98603098How old were you in 2012?
>>98602816Never seen anyone complain about mk8, cents yes, but not mk8.
>10 infantry box costs around $7 per model>1 character box costs around $40-60 per modelMAKE IT MAKE SENSE
>>98603199You weren't there when they were shown.
>>98603202>Abaddon steadily going up in price until he's $85 CADGreat
>>98603202It costs just as much to design and produce a one model kit as a 10 model kit. Shipping and warehousing is cheaper because the box is smaller, but not 1/10th.I just don't buy character models. It's cheaper ad more fun to kitbash something unique.
>>98602623
>>98603202From GW's perspective, people only buy the character model once, so in order to squeeze as much as they can out of the product they price it higher compared to one that people are expected to purchase multiple times.
>>98603202GW makes money selling multiple generic infantry boxes, and they want to milk as much money as they can from selling fewer characters kits. It makes perfect sense.
>>98603210When was that? I just remember mk8 being a thing in my second tactical marine box, the sergeant has an mk8 torso.
>>98602726My rage about all the space marine shit this year would largely dissipate if they revealed that intercessors get to be built with special weapons. Which they won't do, so my rage continues.
>>98602745Same size. All ye olden tiles were meant to be part of a 6x4
>got my combat patrol premium boxShould I paint my brutalis dread as black templars, or as blood angels death company?
>>98603231>When was that?Plastic deathwatch marines in 7th, I think, wasn't talking about other iterations of mk8.
>>98603233Why would they change intercessors when they could release a new primaris space marine box for a mixed special weapons unit?
>>98603226I've always wondered if dual-build kits are better for GWs bottom line or not than making two separate kits. Because on the one hand it makes production of that one kit more expensive because of all the interchangeable parts, but on the other hand they only need to make one set of molds and space for one box product My guess is it probably evens out and they just do it whenever they think it's a good idea for the unit in question
>>98603233Even if they were you would whine about something else, because you want to whine more than you want marines that fit your standards.
>>98603240Indeed, it's almost like making the 11th edition battleline for marines intercessors with new hats was entirely retarded, and a squandering of the opportunity to make upscaled tacticals.
>>98603236>combat patrol premium boxwhich one that is?
>>98603249It seems like such an easy slam dunk that I don't understand why they wouldn't just do it.
>>98603189I was 36.
>>98603245It depends mostly on how bulky the kit winds up being and whether it will fit in a standard sized box. The cost of design, production, shipping and warehousing is identical for a multi-purpose kit like infiltrators/incursors as it is for sword brethren. If removing options get more boxes into a shipping container you cut the fat.
>>98603245I don't think it's that much more expensive. It's just a few interchangeable pieces on the same sprue a lot of times, and I think it's mostly larger centerpiece models that do that like knights, greater demons, and tanks which means they can artificially jack up the price for a 'premium' piece. But my guess is that it's mainly for SKU reasons. It's less boxes taking up the shelves but fulfilling multiple profiles.
>>98603202>buy the character on left for 25 euro>or buy the characters on the right for 35 euro that includes the doctor and bunch of other stuffbuying GSC characters especially are stupid
QUICK!The Commissar is coming!He's all out of ammo and his sword is missing!Say something Heretical, then book it before he gets your ID number! He'll lose his damn mind!
>>98603290I like Orks! XD
>>98603288Most GSC characters are just the Neophyte/Acolyte kit with a random shit.If those kit came with familiars it would be even more retarded to buy said characters.Reason why a GSC players have those models is because they came in some bundle or some friend/family gifted them one.
>>98603302
post champions of the gods>summons monsters from another dimension to fight for him>manipulates probability in a luck-based game through sheer willpower >imposes new rules on the game at will in order to put the game in his favor>literally a wizard pharoah when he was alive
>>98602755Those helmets are from the IW upgrade sprue kit that was designed for 40k. 40k has a different helmet scale than HH has. HH are noticably much smaller than 40k ones.
>>98603288Sisters is similar with the new Kill Team, you can reliably run 75% of the leader units using Insidiants + bits.
>>98602809>Actual mk8 looks a lotLike shit. There's a reason why you keep spamming this image instead of actual mk8 models, ie. the deathwatch ones.Those models were horrendeusly bad and mocked for a good reason.You can make 100x better mk8 by just taking regular ints and slapping mk7 helmet on them and shaving the kneefins.
You ever look at a command squad style unit and think "every single model there could have just been a unique character"?
>>98602999All marines are bow legged from all the time spent riding bikes when they were a scout.
>>98603253Hachette combat patrol magazine
>>98602676>don't reprint anything, can only get OOP material via the app>not publishing "free" material as pdf or html>can't use app without signing in and making account>paywall "free" content on website behind account sign in used for app
>>98603344The worst offender is the wardens of ultramar where it's a bunch of random humans, some of which definitely don't belong in a warzone. At least everything in hurons entourage besides the chick looks like they should be there.
>>98603360Everything here looks generic af
>>98603358I've never done any of this, no sign in, no app, and have no idea what I'm apparently missing. How is making oop stuff available via an app worse than having oop stuff not available (officially) at all?
>>98602968>unbothered. moisturized. happy. in my lane. focused. flourishing.
>>98603264how?
>>98603290I exclusively fuck xeno women
>>98602595So I should replace my Wraithblades and get another unit of Howling Banshees and make them 1x10 unit with Jain Zarr as a replacement for the Spirit Seer? What about the Autarch and a unit of Dark Reapers?
>>98603290I wouldn't a daemonette...Some of the time.
>>98603391How many Wave Serpents should I have in an army? 2? Or would 1 suffice? And should I get a Falcon or 2 or 2 Fire Prisms? As well as another unit of Fire Dragons and Fuegan? I like Aspect Host.
>>98603391>>98603399do what you wantmagnetize your wave serpents though
>>98603360>don't belong in a warzone 40K space marines have been dragging squishy humans and scribes and lecturns and assistants and baggage trains and all manner of retarded shit onto the battle field for ages. Its just how 40k rolls.
>>98603239Ah, I never figured they were mk8, just upscaled marines of varying marks.
>>98602595>tq Not the joke/reference guybuy retro is boring in comparison and OP should be ashamed for shaming the better option.
>>98603290Blacksone fortresses can't can't penetrate Cadia, it will burn up in the atmosphere
>>98603410>magnetize
>>98603415dragging squishy replaceable servitors isn't the same as dragging squishy V.I.P. of the chain of command of other armies
>>98602604It’s in the mfm, because that’s the document they edit all the time to change points for balance, so they keep it there to change dispo and dp for balance.If you’re using a list builder like new recruit or war organ, the detachments should be tagged with their disposition.
>>98603369>How is making oop stuff available via an app worse than having oop stuff not available (officially) at all?Because there is no limitation for it being oop, its them intentionally doing it. They created a problem so they could sell you a shitty solution.
>>98603415Those are servitors anon. Worst case failed marine aspirants.Not some high ranking human official.Different situation if the models where made as an objective to capture/rescue.
>>98603427I don't have the old vostroyan art on hand or the fucking raven guard piece that has them stealth deep striking with scribes in tow. Anyway, imperial armies, art and 40k in general have never been about sensible chains of command or logistics or realistic battlefield operations. Its about big damn heroes on the front line in dramatic art.
>>98603437They should just keep producing old stuff no one buys any more indefinitely? Fill warehouses with their entire back catalogue just in case? Grow up.
>>98603447>old vostroyan artYou are talking about this one?
>>98603444Regimental advisors have been a thing for ages. >>98603459God I hate the colour versions of these.
>>98603435Thanks. Found it in the MFM when the other guy linked it. Now I just gotta deal with having a disposition all about making actions on objectives for an army almost entirely about hitting people in melee. Considering just continuing to run up and murder everyone before they can make too many points.
>>98603462In the Imperial Guard anon.
>>98603462>Regimental advisors have been a thing for ages.Not for marines, they are for the guard, where they aren't dragged to bombastically charge the enemy alongside a unit of bladeguards.Why would the marines field the command elements of an another army?
>>98603467Nta but inquisitors also bring their pals along for battle.
>>98603467>>98603478Ultramarines are specifically much more integrated into their local guard and planetary defence forces so that fits fine.
>>98603456They stopped selling digital copies of their publications as well, you can no longer purchase any eBooks. They also stopped doing nice prints of their gamebooks so you either have to get overcharged on a *limited edition* hardcover or enjoy paying the same previous price for a low quality penny pinched soft cover print run.
>>98603290Space Wolves are alright.
>>98603481I just started playing, can you make a whole Inquisitor army? Or are you just supposed to use them as support units for Space Marines and shit?
>>98603489The Commissar wouldn’t take issue with this statement tho anon, nice try.
>>98603086reminder that GW doesn't take out mirror matches when calculating winrates so everyone is pulled towards 50%
>>98603485You would have a point if the ultramarines could field imperial guard troops as part of their army, but they can't.
>>98603399Falcons are the best cost for getting your fire warriors right into a tank and telling the other opponent to kiss it goodbye.If you're going to have a 10+Jain banshee squad, and aren't keeping them back to death with deep strikes, a Wave Serpent is pretty much mandatory. T3 just doesn't survive crossing the table, otherwise.
>>98603509Not my fault their rules are trash and don't line up with their art or fluff.
>>98603512>Falcons are the best cost for getting your fire warriors right into a tank and telling the other opponent to kiss it goodbyeSo don't get a Falcon at all?
>>98603503Maybe not previously, but ever since the diaper incident, space wolves have become extra heretical
>>98603514No, your fault is defending a trash decision on the models that makes the disconnection even worse.
>>98603524Nigger, you're the one who wants 40K to be a realistic depiction of battlefield roles. Cope.
James! There's only one way to save 40k! Release the Hrud!
>>98603527I want CONSISTENCY, not REALISM, you faggot.This is inconsistent.Stop defending shitty choices.
Why does Heroic Intervention not have the guy I'm charging with to protect a unit from a charge fight first? What's the point of this ability? Unless I'm wrong and Heroic Intervention takes priority over everything else?
>>98603523They just brought Sebastian back to life so even in your grotesque scenario they would still be in debt to the Wolves.
>>98603558No, they wouldn't, the wolves said they did it so they could suck ork cocks on armageddon and they did suck ork cocks on armageddon, all is even.
>>98603569You have the mind of a child, go elsewhere please.
>>98603569Do orks have cocks? I just always figured they had a moldy piss hole or something like a fungal ken doll.
>>98603578They grow one when they had to piss on something or rape a space wolf.
>>98603583Can't rape the willing, as the old saying goes.
>>98603576Why are you imagining children as having ork cocks on their minds? Are you a fucking pedophile freak?
>>98603576>demands other people leave the general>after having been permanently banned almost 200 times
>>98603592Are you even reading the warped shit he’s typing?
>>98603597Leave.
>>98603597Yes, he ragebaited you while pertaining to the site's rules.
>>98603597Retard he's literally just trolling you because you reply every single time without fail if anyone insults the Space Wolves.
>>98603558All debt to the wolves are paid in wolf-diapersEntire forgeworlds are dedicated to their fabrication
>>98603606I'm pretty sure he just has to make every mention of space wolves about himself somehow, out of compulsion.Any of you anons run into this sort of autistic self insert-ism at your LGSes, by any chance? Most of the guys at mine are either chill stoner-types or the "slightly autistic but sociable" types.
>>98603520I mean their tank, not yours.Though, the Falcon doesn't always survive the retaliation. It's medium-squishy.If you need one specific tank or monstrous creature to vanish in a turn, and are willing to make the better trade, it's a strategy that has been around since forever. And before that, you take advantage of all the heavy weapons on the falcon to pick off models while you wait for the best time to bring it to bear.If it's something in the backline that has no support, you can even go on a spree for another couple turns.Honestly, a Falcon isn't that expensive, and can have solid firepower for its price. Even if you're not dropping something off, and have points to spare, it's a decent use for spare points.
>>98603634The conversation is dead so stop trying to breathe life into it you bored loser.
>>98603640>reee I'm banned from my LGS so that means you're not allowed to talk about yours
>>98603635So 2 Wave Serpents and 1 Falcon. Or possibly 1 Wave Serpent and 1 Falcon to save money. Also, if the tank dies or I disembark, how do I use my units that just left it? Are they not able to be used until the next battle round? And what about the other Eldar tanks like Night Spinners or Fire Prisms for example?
>>98603634As far as I know spergs don't live long in lgs here, they get gatekept and then go sulk at a tournament or official warhammer store.
>>98603665The spergiest regular I've seen at mine was a based lad who de-primaris'd every single dark angels model he bought. And he's still in the "sociable autist" camp in my book.
>>98603681>based lad who de-primaris'd every single dark angels model he boughtKino
>>98603635>If you need one specific tank or monstrous creature to vanish in a turn, and are willing to make the better trade, it's a strategy that has been around since forever.
>>98603531Nah nigga. The Hrud are boring as shit. Most people only care about Space Marines for a reason
>>98603534He's right. We should fix it by giving every chapter human auxilia on the field. Then it's consistent.
So these with beaks, what would be the best Mk. armor for them? Salamanders sub-chapter perhaps?
>>98603681Based. Primaris is fucking gay
>>9860369540k outsells the Marines-only Horus Heresy despite HH having better models and rules. Xenos literally carry 40ks popularity. Most normies who have barely heard of 40k know more about Orks than anything else.
Did anyone feel the 9th ed codex for tau was kinda stale? I like a lot of things about the tau, tau got me into 40k, but reading that was one of the things that kept me from collecting them.
>>98603699That's what I proposed as well.
>>98603491They used to be their own army, they blended in with Grey Knights, Deathwatch, and Sisters of Battle plus other inquisitorial troops. It was a neat little army.
I throw away my left over sprues and I don't magnetize.
>>98603689In fluff are craftworlders the only ones who have aspect warriors?I'd really like to get into eldar, but their lore is kind of lackluster. Also I think the guardian defender turret is a bit goofy.
>>98603512I know the guy who asked about jain and 10 banshees, he'll mostly be fighting me, who is going to run 30 chosen, 10 possessed and 10 chaos terminators into his face. He'll mostly run into some bolters, combi weapons and plasma pistols, but most of the time I'll be advancing instead of shooting to hit his wraith units with 5+ lethal hits. I know he has 1 wave serpant, maybe another second hand salvage one. He'll be strapped for points because he loves wraith units. He's preparing for my army to get T5-6.
>>98603592His hypocrisy is the worst part about him yeah
>>98603651Is decal actually banned from his LGS?lmao probably diaper relatedSpace wolves baka
>>98603360Hol up...
>>98603703Nah nigga. We need Newport Space Marines. Marlboro are for divorced moms or construction workers
>>98603703They even have an Aquila on them
>>98603726Jokes on you, I'm fighting a fucking Thousand Sons and Ork player.
>>98603747Newports are for dirty nogs.>>98603748American Spirits are peak.
>>98603725Yes, the Paths in general are a Craftworld thing. Corsairs aren't autistic enough to stick to one (until they get over their edgy phase, like Rangers) and Harlequins, Exodites and Deldar have other ways to cope with Slaanesh.
>Space Marine army>It's always fucking UltramarinesI'm so glad the first Space Marine army I fought were Minotaurs.
>>98603747>smoking nigger lipsshiggy diggy
>>98603748That shit is for s0i beta hipsters>>98603757Newport is for real ass niggas. Sorry youre a faggot hipster with low testosterone levels
>>98603481Inquisition is like the one place this is not an issue.
>>98603764That's a bummer, I was thinking of a corsair-converted army. Their KT box has a ton of bits.
I’m guessing blood angels are gonna get a huge wave this edition
>>98603725>In fluff are craftworlders the only ones who have aspect warriors?pretty much, yeah, craftworlders are the ones who walk the path systems, which includes the taking of aspects, while all other eldar cope with slaanesh in a different way or just dare the dangers for some time.But also it is possible for remote shrines of khaine to be established elsewhere, the incubi of commorragh are practically aspect warriors.
>>98603773>the pavement ape who needs his smokes ~minty~ is calling anyone else low testLMFAO
>>98603765Minotaurs are badass but Black Templars 4 life
>>98603781Why? They already got a bunch of stuff updated not long ago. Grey Knights are the only Marines likely to get a big wave this edition.
>>98603725Just play space marines with eldar bits on them
>>98603780Ultimately, there's plenty of room to just fluff it differently. Corsairs trade with the other flavours of Eldar enough to use all of their special weapons as their egos permit (and with the disregard for safety that has them give regular guys Wraithcannons), so there's nothing wrong in theory with putting together a group with fusion guns and running them as Fire Dragons or such.
>>98603771Sup beta boy
Do Warlord traits not exist anymore
>>98603783I recently learned that Drazhar or whoever is more or less a phoenix lord.>>98603796Marines are one of the last armies I'm interested in now. I was split before, but tacticals getting squatted with no replacement was the final straw.
>>98603795They’re a beloved faction that are the front cover of the beloved 11th edition, and they are still missing proper bespoke stuff that other chapters have.
>>98603795I would be betting on deathwatch getting something too because I'm expecting gw to cross promote astartes2 with deathwatch terminators and some characters for them
>>98603781>buffed Ravenwing to the moon to shift the last old stock>just announced a new biker characterDangles are getting their equal-attention cake.
>>98603813>that are the front coverYeah sorry, here's your new Ultramarines named character!
>>98603793I find it funny that everyone plays the first Space Marine legions/chapters EXCEPT Imperial Fists. You see every chapter that spawned from Imperial Fists like Black Templars, Crimson Fists, Celestial Lions, etc INSTEAD of Imperial Fists. Why is that exactly? Let me guess:>MUH FUCKING YELLOW
>>98603825It's because Fists are just boring, they have nothing special going for them, they're the most vanilla of vanilla. Even Ultramarines are more unique than they are, with the Roman stuff going on and shit like Honour Guard and such.
>>98603825They’re boring.
>>98603825pee pee marines eat poo poo
>>98603825>Why is that exactly?because the imperial fists themselves have no personality, just like their fans, who chose them out of contrarianism
>>98603825I see imperial fists sometimesIf you’re not seeing them, I would assume it really probably is the yellow lol
>>98603825Yeah, you’re right. It’s the yellow. It’s just not a good color scheme for armor. Its so bright and it looks like piss
>>98603825Because if you like yellow, you'd be playing Lamenters instead
>>98603809>Marines are one of the last armies I'm interested in now. I was split before, but tacticals getting squatted with no replacement was the final straw.This is the denial stage of grief.
>>98603491Rules as written you CAN have an "Imperial Agents" army, which means you can take a handful of inquisitors, and your troop options are sisters, GK, DW, inquisitorial agents, voismen, navy breachers and cops.It is the worst army in the game by a landslide because it's designed to be the dumping ground for units you're allowed to take a handful of in other armies.so yeah, mostly you're supposed to take one inquisitor in your space marine or custodes army, but if you REALLY want to, you can have an inquisition army.
>>98603825Every single first-founding chapter is more boring than its successors, and this is most quickly seen with IFs and BTs. And if you do really like the original "coffee with no cream or sugar" feeling of IFs, crimson fists are right next door, have an old-school charm, and don't require you to paint yellow.
>>98603853>>98603855Why does everyone hate yellow
>the sixth legion is held at the gates of a chaos outpost, held at bay by a slaaneshi witch-priestess>”If you wish to enter our magical realm, you must fill me up these diapers three! KEEHEHEHEHEEE”, she cackles>a twisted grin spreads across Leman’s wolf-face>”I won’t even need to call upon the Allfather for this one!”, he wolf-chuckles
>>98603240Because they won't ever release such a kit as it would make intercessors pointless?
>>98603868I don't hate yellow, it's just very rare for yellow to someone's favourite colour.
>>98603825Becuase they are boring. Shame Dorn get fleshed out over the years while they stay dead in the ditch.
>>98603263They straight up hate tacticals which is incredibly baffling considering it's their best selling unit ever.
>>98603868Its the least common favorite primary color compared to red and blue
>>98603706good bait
>>98603868It’s clumpy and uneven to paint with.
>>98603236>Lets just make bigger dreadnaughts.God i fucking hate GWs current design philosophy which is just>LMAO what if we just took the thing we have and made it bigger?They are doing it in 40k with primaras, and dreads nowThey are doing it in HH with Saturnine terminators and dreads at this fucking point they are just gboing to make a knight sized dreadnought.
>>98603775Also techpriests and techmarines used to be able to take retuines of servitors.
>>98603868Not a common popular color, and unless you're using cadmium paints it's extremely tedious to paint with
>>98603857I've gone through all the stages of grief with marines this edition.>no, they're not REALLY just re-running basic intercessors for the start of 11th>maybe nu-tacticals will come around in 12th>THEY SQUATTED FUCKING FIRSTBORNS, WE'RE NEVER GETTING TACTICALS>I think I'm done with 40k>I'll either become a pure xenosfag or make my homebrewed chapter master fall to chaos/turn renegade>>98603868Yellow paints are famously shit to use, although it's a much less unpleasant endeavor now if you go down the "yellow contrast over pink-and-white" route.
>>98603825The yellow can work, especially if a tad orange, but the biggest issue is that they just don't have a personality.>they like fortificationsEven that is shallow. What kind of fortifications? Just fortresses/bunkers?They're simply under developed and unexplored.
>>98603825I like Imperial Fists in theory because I like that they're mostly the baseline codex chapter but have an emphasis on defense. It's a cool idea but at the end of the day they have like two characters and that's it. Ultras are also the baseline codex chapter but they have a unique bladeguard unit and several more characters.I spent a lot of time deciding, since I like Raven Guard, Imperial Fists, Crimson Fists, Ultras, and I also considered making my own custom chapter that matches the paint scheme of my SoB like they were from the same planet, but I eventually ended up with Ultras since they really are a good looking classic paint scheme and you don't need to reinvent the wheel. Ultras do just look good, and the yellow of Fists is not only harder to paint but it doesn't look as good in my opinion. I did a few test Fists models and didn't like it as much.In some sort of weird reverse-contrarianism, I actually really enjoy the baseline stuff in games. The human fighter of armies.
>>98603825Easy>Painting yellow sucks>They dont have any stand out characters anymore >They dont really fucking DO anything in lore anymore>Their main Ghimick is not even viable on the table top.Problem with IF is that they are always portrayed as the defensive fortification holding legion/chapter that is all about digging in and fighting from a fortified position.Wanna know what does not fucking work on the table top? That.Also they dont have any unique cool units like BA,DA or SW. They are some how the most bland fucking space marine chapter despite not being ultra marines.
>>98603825I like them. I like that they are the most militaristic and industrial kind of marines, without all the roman/knightly/viking/insert culture on top of it. They are just imperial space marines and I like that.
>>98603908I also enjoy the human fighter archetypeI prefer imperial fists over ultramarines thoughI guess I just see ultramarines too much and imperial fists not enough
>>98603878yeah, and that's why the guys from the LAWFUL GOOD HUMAN BLUE faction are the posterboys of Warhammer 40,000It's the best theoretical and the best practical
>>98603906>especially if a tad orangeThis is the main thing everyone gets wrong. They paint them like a pale yellow or like bright construction worker yellow, looks gay. They need that orange tint and the red detailing.
>>98603911>>98603912I personally like fists (as a founding legion) but even I'll admit that if every founding legion is an ice cream flavor, the fists are an ice cube made of milk.
>>98603721so like 99% of people?
>>98603748Must be DA successors.
>vanguard vets get hammers for the sergeant>bladeguard don'tCan't wait for them to squat bladeguard and replace it with a proper unit of 5x 32mm base vanvets on foot.
>>98603924I'm not a big fan of the red but it can work
>>98603916>I also enjoy the human fighter archetypeI also enjoy the human fighter archetype (with spikes)
>>98603878I never realized how much blue is liked over everything else. explains why most anons here paint deathskull orks along with the other reasons.
>>98603703>The filtered fewyeah alright.
>>98603937Oh babyNow we’re talkin
>>98603813fuck you. Let other chapters get stuff. BA have nearly as much as DA, SW and BT. Where are my white scars units? Ravenwing? Salamanders??
>>98603927IF are like the ice cream scoop water bucket flavor. They are so fucking boring, and it sucks because in HH they actually have cool shit.
>>98603934I didn't like but could understand centurions being 3x or 6x, but anything smaller is a scam. That's the only reason; because it's cheaper.
>>98603937cool official art >no unit can use bolters>no unit can use power/daemon swords
>>98603808They're called enhancements now and you can run them on all characters instead of just your warlord
>>98603906>They're simply under developed and unexplored.At this point their gimmick should be coordination with successor chapters because they're too lame for a supplement of their own, but also pathetic that a first founding chapter doesn't have a book while a successor does, and also it would help giving more spotlight to stuff like the crimson fists
>>98603949>no unit can use boltersSo just like loyalists.
>>98603950Enhancements work nothing like warlord traits and the lack of them is what makes named characters mandatory, which sucks.
>>98603952God those hovertanks look so lame and gay and the redemptors are just straight worse than the old box dreads
bros i think the fumes and plastic shavings gave me a lung infection
>>98603941>Where are my white scars units? Ravenwing? Salamanders??They get their units in the form of generic marine unitsalso you spelled raven guard wrong
>>98603952I wouldn't be surprised if we see a last wall protocol army in canon this edition.
>>98603934They're bladeguards, not hammerguardsIt's in the name
>>98603960Correct the redemptors are fucking ugly as fuck and the repulsons are even worse. I dont know who the fuck thought the hover tanks looked good but they look like dog shit, the Forge World super heavy primarus tank looks even worse. Some one out there really watched a bunch of 80s GI Joe and said yep, this design is peak for 40k.
>>98603961vaxx status?
>>98603961Nah nigga. Could be anything else. 5 bucks you got a dirty ass room, you dirty as fuck yourself, you don’t wash your linen often, and your job is dirty as shit
>>98603952>A founding chapter does not have a book>Be a Salamanders fanFirst time huh?
>>98603953Don't think you and I are even slightly the same
>>98603974>the Forge World super heavy primarus tank looks even worseIt's actually the only one I don't hate, Forge World just has talent that the main studio sculptors do not.
>>98603952UM are better for tacticians and logistics.Fists could be about stoic/cold/unwaveri- wait that's DAs.Then they could be cold calculation about data and figuring out the best tactic strategy and adapting in the middle of- That's IH and a bit RG.Maybe Imperial Fists could be about reinforcements and garrissons across the imperium, spread around and a supporting chapter, then? Great at working with others since they are both adaptable and beyond reproach (defended the imperial palace). They may not be the protagonist, but they are the super sidekick that you can always depend on.
>>98603983>Forge World just has talent that the main studio sculptors do not.I mean yeah, the forge world studio prior to its shut down were doing things out of labors of love, the main line stupid is kinda shit. Some of their sculpts are cool and good but most of them are aweful and its made worse by how badly they cut the kits up to fit sprues
>>98603935I think major black details like the helmet work really well on fists. Giving them black helmets and maybe power packs would probably be a pretty big glow-up for them.
>>98603986>Great at working with othersThey are not though, they are netorious assholes to everyone because in their mind its a matter of "Do exactly what i say to defend this place or you are wrong fuck you." Out of the loyalist chapters, IF and IH were like the biggest plastiel dicks to everyone that was not a member of their legion. Like i said before the problem with IF, is that their Main MO, Fighting from fortifications, is not a viable way to play modern 40k so no one wants to play them.
>>98603939You sound like you enjoy some faggy euro brand
>>98603837They're marines!
>>98604001>Fighting from fortifications, is not a viable way to play modern 40kIt's also antithetical to what Marines are in general so it just makes them feel even more lame. Like Guardsmen cosplaying as Marines.
>>98603902>or make my homebrewed chapter master fall to chaos/turn renegade
>>98603941>Where are my white scars units? Ravenwing? Salamanders??They are sadly the lesser chapters and don’t have the popularity or pedigree to receive the same treatment that the others do.
>>98604001Most armies I see on a modern 40k table do not resemble coherent armies at all.
>>98604010permanent means permanent
>>98604007Thing is it could work but GW fucking refuses to make fortifications good or think more then 10 mins on making rules for terrain.
It's time for STCs.
>GW wants to make people field space marines in smaller groupsOk, what about chaos space marines? They usually arrive in their thousands to invade, not a squad of 5 to deal with a few orks.
>>98604014Shut up
>>98603986I just can’t dig the piss armor. I would if they pushed more black into the design. Paint them like a yellow supercar with black accents
>>98604024If it's Chaos then would some penalty for too may at one place work? Chaos is all about infighting. All it would take is>My Chaos God loves me more.>No way fag, he thinks I'm betterand a fight happens or they're always trying to stab each other in the ass anyway.
>>98604024>in their thousandsehhhh no not really. They ahve thousands of thralls and cultists invade but space marines them selves? Nah like a couple hundred maybe up to 1000 on a big invasion.
>>98604001I'm saying what they could be, rather than what they are. Even then you could work their autism with working with chapters, for instance by providing a template support; like securing areas, but being shit at initiating. They won't help you through your assault in the same way you are, but they can push with you in their own autistic doctrine way.
>>98604024the battlefield in a game of warhammer is always a small slice of a very large abttle, it's the pivotal fulcrum point where the leaders duke it outThat's why missions and objectives have the flavour that they doThe CSM still invade with thousands, but the change is to make them feel more 'elite'
>>98604024>They usually arrive in their thousands to invadeNot really, they're scattered warbands who mostly act as space pirates now, that's why they have to pad out their numbers with summoned daemons and cultists. There's only been a few times that they've gone out in warbands of thousands, and those are all like Black Crusades and Blood Tides.
>>98604022I hate the van saar look, it's not 40k, it's closer to infinity.>>98604040I pretend the yellow is supposed to be gold but it's too expensive so it's reserved for HQs, hence why rogal dorn is fully gold: he can afford the real colors.
>Have gun that kills space marines and gun that doesn't, is only good into t3 infantry>The anti-space marine gun kills space marines and also t3 infantry>Half the armies in the game are space marines>GW are giving marines a stat boost and making them more expensiveI don't get how this is going to stop me from taking the gun that kills space marinesEven if they point it or make the unit more expensive I have to take the gun that kills space marines or I can't play the game, and Space Marines are going to find it more annoying
>>98604052>it's not 40kIt is, you just don't understand that 40k is a vast universe meant to have all of these different things together. Van Saar are something that was badly needed.
>>98604042Many warbands can follow one leader, like Kharn or Abaddon>>98604042So to conquer a planet you send in like 100 marines? Doesn't sound right to me
>>98604064>Many warbands can follow one leader, like Kharn or Abaddonmeant for >>98604051
>>98604008The main thing that holds me back is how old the current termie lord is. At the moment I'm thinking of doing /mydude/ as a lord exultant, normal chaos lord, or, most likely, a reave-captain.
>>98604064>So to conquer a planet you send in like 100 marines? Doesn't sound right to meI mean that is, absolutely, lore accurate. Here is the thing that a lot of space marine fans and fans of the HH legions dont like to hear. The Imperial army was actually the heavy lifters of the great crusade and most of the fighting in 40k. Space marines are shock troopers and spear tips, they are not whole ass frontal assalt armies like they kinda were in the great crusade. 100 marines could topple a world because they send them into capture and take over key infersturacture and strategic assets. 10 space marines could knock out the power grid, another 20 could assault key facilities for supplies and space ports, another group coudl go in for the kill against leaders ect ect. Thats how space mariners operate Its imperial army that do the front line grunt meat grinder.
Whats more rare to see someone play on the table? Alpha Legion or Word Bearers?
>>98604061No, old van saar actually looked 40k.Also the look of STC tech was very much established.Everything has commonlaity, but somehow the near-perfect STC is completely different? That's bullshit, the designer just went too hard into generic sci-fi.
>>98604075to add to this, to give you some additional context, back during the great crusade ships that were like frigates and cruisers, only had on them at a time like, less then 30 marines. Grand cruisers and strike cruisers would hold a couple hundred
Man, this thing looks so ass. Has anyone here ever seen one irl?
>>98604088I have seen more mastadons then this fucking thing. But to be fair mastadons are cool as fuck.
>>98604088I hate the side sponsons, makes it look like a toy.
>>98604088Nevermind it was just a bad paint job, this thing is sick, actually.
>>98604075>100 marines could topple a world100 marines could topple SOME worlds. If there's an actual total war in the planet 100 marines are basically nothing. Just look at Armageddon that needs 30 chapters to even move the frontlines. If it's something like Vraks where the whole planet is really just a single fortification, then sure, you send a taskforce of Dark Angels to blow up some bridges and take a space port and you might fuck over the planet so much it can't really sustain its rebellion.
>>98604088>Man, this thing looks so assI think it looks 10 times better than the repulsors and shit. Like a proper exotic weird rare Marine vehicle, like a land-ship Thunderhawk, rather than a gay toy shoebox.
>>98604051The lore around Red Corsairs says their numbers in particular are comparable to a pre-Heresy legion, which is far larger than a current-time loyalist chapter.This is only one group of the whole under CSM, but they in particular clearly have the numbers, unless GW has forgotten their own setting again (very likely).>>98604056GW doesn't understand second-order effects.They listen to SM players complain that their units don't feel elite or tanky enough, and then build a data sheet that makes them tankier and more elite. They don't consider that all players cater their armies to be able to easily fight their strongest opponents (who are often marines), thus making the whole thing a race to the bottom (or top, I guess, since it's numbers going upwards?) to keep up with the baseline marine.In other words, GW builds datasheets like 50% of players are playing guard, not marines.
>>98604086Really depends. Also it's a fact to consider that marines during the crusade didn't work alone, they were embeded in fleets with a fuckton of imperial armymen to clean up and hold whatever the marines blew up.
>>98604095Yeah, but Armageddon was the exception not the rule. Space marines were designed as shock troopers, vanguard, and spear tips, and that is how they operated through out the great crusade and even most of 40k. There are unique theaters of war which break that operation and turn them into a front line fighting force, but that typically also is summoning the entire chapter.Armagedon for exmaple was due to how important it was for the imperium and the forces that were going up against it
>>98604102Marinefags don't like to hear this but most of the Great Crusade was handled by the Titan Legions, they were just the back-up for places Titans couldn't go.
>>98604056Problem for horde armies right now is that it looks like blast weapons are all going to be absolutely cracked. "If everyone is brining low attack, high S, high AP, 2D weapons, my horde army will overrun them!!!" And then the horde army gets obliterated by one cheapish unit with a blast profile.
>>98604103Armageddon is an exception yes and the third war was the biggest concentration of imperial might since the heresy, but the point still stands. An actual total war covering a planet can't be won by just a company of marines. You need an actual army to back them up and even then just those marines might not be enough. Marines are shock troops to deal heavy blows to vital objectives, they can't win an actual land war of conquest.
>>98604108>By titan legionsNo, it was handled mostly by the imperial army, titan legions only showed up if shit was really bad, moving them bitches across the stars sucked.
>>98604108Titans are cool though.
>>98604115Yeah, but there are a far more worlds that are not total war operations in the 40k setting. The imperium is made up of thousands of worlds, not every one takes the fighting to what happened on armagedon. So again, realistically yes, about 100 marines could overthrow a planet with imperial army regiments being the bulk of the fighting force and space marines being the shock troopers/vanguard.
Did chaos ever have razorbacks? Or land speeders?
>>98603139>I'z from Bosniark, take me to Armor-geddem>I really want to smash Hive-city Hades Prime
>>98602734I hate to break it to you anon, but the intercessors are all shown with either no helmet or a MkX helmet only, and in the same article, only the vanguard veterans have a correction made to them specifying there are Mk6 and 7 helmets.
>>98603860>/40kg/: dude just pick the army you think looks coolest, it doesn't matter>me: ok, I like Inquisitors>/40kg/: DUDE INQUISITORS SUCK LOL GET PWND NOOBy-you too...
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>>98604134They can't even be arsed to nostalgiabait properly.
We all know the proper 40k aesthetic is a specific subset of Imperial with gothic skulls and cathedrals>muh chaosNot 40k>muh TauNot 40k>muh eldar>necrons>nidsNot 40k>muh guard>muh marines who don't have skullsNot 40k
>>98604134You are actually subhuman IQ if you think the multipart is going to lack options the ETB kit had lmao
>>98604147>Weyou got a mouse in your pocket?
>>98604134>>98604140>There’s also a wealth of cosmetic accessories and head options to go around, continuing the design philosophy from the Armageddon miniatures by mixing older helmets and armour parts into the more modern and regimented Mk X Tacticus suits.>continuing the design philosophy from the Armageddon miniatures by mixing older helmets>mixing older helmetsCan you read, son?
>>98604112horde armies already suffer from 11's basic systemThere's a reason why drukhari, guard and GSC are all bottom of the barrel rn
>>98604147>guard>not 40kSlapping a skull, aquila or imperialis on historical soldiers parodies & pastiche is the peakest 40k there is.
>>98604085>near-perfect STCIt spews tons of rads like it's trying to kill its user. Also, this assumes STCs are a constant thing or that missing pieces don't make a big and important part of aesthetic differences. For some writers, STCs aren't blueprints but tools to design blueprints for any situation for different environments, thus unlikely any two blueprints are completely identical save level of damage or convergent evolution. The Van Saar armor is doubtlessly an imperfect design.
Super excited to get my first figgies on Friday gonna go with just a riptide to start because i imagine since it’s large itd be easier to start on than a normal sized figure and so i can put money into getting all the paints and supplies and stuff and then pick up other units over the next few weeks as i work on fleshing out my army (and painting)
>>98604112It means that horde armies are no longer bringing their hordes, they're spamming whatever vehicles/monsters they have instead that can also tank the "elite" armies' infantry fire to have a chance on the field. You don't even need blast profile weapons, horde units just aren't worth it to bring. These changes have done the opposite of what GW intended so far.>>98604139>supercar>posts muscle carYou tried at least
>>98604164good luck bro, don't get discouraged if it sucks. you can always strip the paint and try again.
>>98604163>it spews radnear perfect, yes>this assumes STCs are a constant thingAnd it is, that's why it's STANDARD TEMPLATE Construct. STANDARD. TEMPLATE.Even votann shit is congruent with the established design language of STC. The man of iron robot masquarading as an imperial automata also falls into the same design, while sitting at the opposite of the spectrum from the votanns.It is easier to assume the van saar design just did its own thing, rather than bend the entirety of what has been established instead.
>>98604152>>98604157These are not "older helmets" they are not older marks, they are all using a MkX face plate. Why would they word it in this retarded way, and provide a correction only for the vanguard units in the same article.>continuing the design philosophy from the Armageddon miniatures by mixing older helmets and armour parts into the more modern and regimented Mk X Tacticus suitsThis does not mean "you get MkVI or MkVII" helmets, it means pic related. At least until I see proof otherwise.
>>98604162guard will never be 40k, stay in the bolt action general where you belong NPC
>>98604181You are actually too retarded to be aliveThe armageddon box HAS MK7 hybrid helmets in it, they're not going to release the multipart version of that same fucking kit WITHOUT those helmetsNever post here again you subhuman retard
>>98604147What if the Eldar has a penis?
>>98604178>STANDARD TEMPLATE
>>98604022Votann should get robots with wires for hair.
>>98604205
>>98604206beautiful... girl hair...
>>98604123Nope. They are haram to the chaos gods. Doesn't matter if they looted them from loyslist chapter/forge world or if they just had them in their armory before betraying the Imperium. They have to surrender them in exchange for Anvilus backpacks to Vashtor.
>>98604206>that feeling when Ribbons canonically willfully prostituted himself for influenceThese dang gay UN Ambassadors.
>>98604188I think you're wrong anon
>>98603980salamanders don't have a book for one of their successors
>>98602726>Unless they are hiding actual different mark pieces in the spruesThey are.>special weaponsIt's the grenade launcher. Literally just use that for a plasmagun or whatever.
>>98604249NTA but>use a grenade launcher for a fucking plasma gunKill yourself, actually
>>98604249>They are.Where? And no a single mk7 faceplate on a mkX helmet isn't different mark pieces.>It's the grenade launcherA grenade launcher isn't an option from a list of several unique special weapons.
>>98604254>my special weapons should ALL get their own snowflake stat linesThey don't need them, just use the grenade launcher stat line, it's better than most of the shitty special weapons anyway. Marinefags are spoiled to shit, jesus.
>>98604260>my special weapons should ALL get their own snowflake stat linesNIGGERITS A FUCKINGPLASMA GUNHOW NEW ARE YOU?DID YOU START IN FUCKING 11TH? KILL YOURSELF NEWFAG BITCH
>>98604260Asking for something that has characterized the basic marine unit for 40 years and that almost every other army also has is being spoiled? Next you'll say that IG wanting their infantry squads with more than 3 models or Eldar having pointy helmets is being spoiled.
>>98604258>differen't mark face plate isn't a different mark because... because I said so!You're so stupid that only way you can be this dumb is that you have had gone to college to learn to be this stupid.
>Forgot what I was doing>Missed out on cheap infiltrator box and mdf terrainnooooo
I fucking hate primaris and all primaris shills. They are the worst decision GW ever made.
I don't even know man.
>>98604266>muh plasmagunIt doesn't need it. Overcharging plasma is fucking overrated anyway.And if you're so dead set on using a pointless mechanic you don't need, just roll D6 on your shooting round, and then remove the model if you roll a 1or 2.
>>98604273If your Intercessors squad doesnt have:>bolter>heavy bolter >light bolter>dark bolter >combi-bolter>melta bolter>freeza bolter>frieza bolster>bolter pistol>bolter rifleyou are literally sabotaging yourself
>>98604285>It doesn't need itYou don't decide what my units need, faggot.
>>98604290Ok, if you say so.
>>98604283Fucking useless modern GW interns, jfc. Back in the day if you called the mail order people they were like veteran grog players that all had converted armies and could tell you anything in detail. Now they're soulless corporate drones.
Are they truly the best anti-large unit in 40k?
>>98604291I do and already did, retard.Either go play 4th edition or don't play at all. No one's forcing you to play 11th edition, it fucking sucks anyway like everyone predicted.
>>98604291Nta but you’re one hostile son of a bitch
>>98604147You're mistaking the imperial aesthetic for the 40k aesthetic.Orks embody the quintessence of the 40k aesthetic but don't have any imperial element, for example, meanwhile plenty of third party knockoffs match the imperial aesthetic but miss the 40k one.The 40k aesthetic can be achieved only bybeing 25% intentionally retarded and 25% referential to other pop stuff
>>98604304Yeah these slop eating bootlicking fags defending retarded primaris units and soulless streamlining and removing of wargear and options deserve it.
I got a few questions about the Falcon:>How do I paint that Eldar symbol in the cockpit? I can't do it, it's too hard for me>How would GW try to refresh this model and pull a Baneblade by removing the sprues?
>>98604297>continuing the design philosophy from the Armageddon miniatures by mixing older helmets and armour parts into the more modern and regimented Mk X Tacticus suits>so can you clarify there will be helmets that aren't just MkX variations?>no
>>98604254>use a grenade launcher for a fucking plasma gunWhat if the grenade fired is a plasma grenade?
>>98603950Then what the fuck is the point of a Warlord
>>98604307If I want special weapons, I just glue them onto my marines. I don't need GW's permission for that.It's weird that you do.Also the game is better streamlined. I'm not rolling for 4 different weapon profiles in a single squad. That shit is wasted time and not fun.
>>98604135NTA, but he's warning you that taking that army may result in very little attention and a weak army overall, which may lead you to disliking the game when you keep losing games and there aren't more than a handful of changes every year to help.
>>98604319forcing you to buy at least one overpriced dudei think one of the mission orders is killing the warlord but aside from that it's just a holdover
>>98604311They can't clarify because their handlers won't tell them.Also it's like 8 pm in Bongland anyway, aka way past people's working time. So it's like 90% chance he isn't even talking to a real person and it's a bot.Or if it is a person, it's some dipshit indian in customer support that's situatedon the indian continent, where GW doesn't tell them any news anyway besides what shows up on their WarCom website.
>>98604200It's weird that you have it and yet neither read it let alone understood it.
>>98604205>>98604209I think the shifting sand chapter is cool
>>98604321Anon you aren't gonna roll 4 profiles, you'll roll the exact same as now but unstead of just the option of grenade launchers you could have meltas instead. It's still 2 profiles during gameplay. I don't know why you retards always believe having weapon options means mixing weapons in schizo loadouts.
>>98604280When I read emotional takes like this, it really reaffirms to me that Primaris as they are today are not all that bad- the launch was just shitty and the lore made people feel railroaded. it's created this generational jihad against the models which really just look like upscaled space marines.
Kill primaris. Behead primaris. Roundhouse kick a primaris into the concrete. Slam dunk a primaris neophyte into the trashcan. Crucify filthy cawl-marines. Defecate in an intercessors food. Launch primaris into the sun. Stir fry primaris in a wok. Toss primaris into active volcanoes. Urinate into a repulsors gas tank. Judo throw primaris into a wood chipper. Twist primaris heads off. Report primaris to the Inquisition. Karate chop primaris in half. Curb stomp primaris progenoid glands. Trap primaris in quicksand. Crush primaris in the trash compactor. Liquefy primaris in a vat of acid. Eat primaris. Dissect primaris. Exterminate primaris in the gas chamber. Stomp primaris skulls with ceramite boots. Cremate primaris in the oven. Lobotomize primaris. Mandatory exterminatus for primaris. Grind primaris organs in the garbage disposal. Drown primaris in fried chicken grease. Vaporize primaris with a ray gun. Kick redemptor dreadnoughts down the stairs. Feed primaris to alligators. Slice primaris with a power katana.
So, where's the non MkX helmets?
>>98604354>it's created this generational jihadIt's literally just that one anon
>>98604358On the sprue
>>98603949>>98603937WE should have kept more basic CSM dex units. Chosen, chaos lord, terminator lord, bikers, havocs as teeth of khorne.
>>98604354>which really just look like upscaled space marinesNo they don't you disingenuous lying nigger. Horus Heresy made actual upscaled space marines. Primaris look like fucking temu marine knock-off trash. They're all round and bulbous. "I LOVE SPHERES, GOTTA PUT MORE FUCKING SPHERES AND BULBS ON EVERYTHING. GOTTA ADD ANOTHER SPHEEERE! GOTTA HAVE MORE BUULBS!" Fuck you and your fucking Chinese back-alley bootleg marines.
>>98604354It’s quite shocking there are people in the 40K general that have still not purchased their first Primaris Marines, just quit the game already dudes.
>>98604354>emotional take>he says, full of emotions
>>98603970>>98603952>>98603825Yeah, that's why I think Dorn could actually be the next PrimarchEspecially since Black Templars are one of the big Chapters with an unique model range. And Crimson Fists are popular too.Dorn will come back and activate Last Wall. No matter if you play as Imperial/Crimson Fists, Black Templars, fucking Retributors etc you will be able to use him. I'd say even this box hinted at it. This HAS to happen since locking Dorn to irrelevant Imperial Fists nobody plays would be retarded. And locking him to Black Templars cucks Imperial Fists to an insane degree. Legitimately, IFags would never recover from this. Making Primarch for irrelevant Chapters would be extremely wasteful. They had a chance to bring back Russ during Wolf refresh and intentionally missed it.It will be Dorn
>>98604377Every loyalist except Guilliman and Lion is legitimately dead and not coming back.
>>98604377>>98603970>>98603952>>98603825The Khan is coming back first at the same time as the Dark Eldar refresh.
>>98604385They already teased Leman Russ’s return
>>98604273>differen't mark face plate isn't a different mark because...GW said so. GK helmets are inspired by MkIII, but they're not MkIII. There's a boat load of MkVII and MkIV mask designs. MkV and Sarum pattern helmets have the same M.30 pattern mask (MkVII probably too).
>>98604385I don't mean to shitpost, but russ is coming back. They brought the lion back when he was only supposed to return at the end times, so we are in the wolf time now.
>Decided to look up Fuegan and Falcon abilities>Fuegan adds an extra 6 inches to melta weapons>Falcon has Deep Strike, fits 6 people, and can give wound rerolls I now see the combination.
>>98604392but my army already got like 8 different leeman russes
>>98604347Me too
>>98604389I hate primarchs but this would genuinely be hilarious>Okaaay you B-lister xenos faction that's even unpopular among xenos players can finally get a refresh... but here's space marines equal attention cake with a fucking PRIMARCH!!! *airhorns and confetti*
>>98604200I have read what you cited and I can safely say you understand more than the other anon. This is why he couldn't reply for so long. He knew he can't admit it.
>>98604415Here is the only other arabian space marine pic I have
>>98604389It would have made a cool end of edition narrative, but they missed the boat on that. Now it will have to wait until next edition.Khan makes more sense to return than Russ but I think you are going to be sadly disappointed
>>98604366No, they should've been given the units GW keeps talking about instead of jakhals and eightbound that literally nobody wanted
>>98604373I don't really have strong emotions on it, I like the models but I also recognized that GW was playing with fire. They used lore to justify a decade long process of upscaling the miniatures, they wanted to find a way you could have big marines and little squat marines on the table without breaking fan immersion. It really doesn't help that the first two waves of primaris were very tacticool and we didn't really see any of the grimdark reinfused into the primaris refresh until 9th ed. When you look at the models 10 years later they don't seem so bad, some of the best sculpts that GW have ever done are coming out now and people aren't complaining about them- Black templars, dark angels and space wolves refreshes were well received.
>Showcase Perturabo's return with a brand new look>Tease Rogal DornThis is the 11th edition storyline isn't it? With the Dark Eldar refresh most likely next year with White Scars getting new units and possibly Khan returning too like this anon said here >>98604389
I was okay with Girlyman coming back so 40k has at least one major tie-in with the prequels to reward autistic Horus Heresy novel fans. But… bringing back the Lion? Two primarchs is too much. Shit feels like the Avengers
>>98604427Jakhals are a good addition, Eightbound are a fucking travesty and should have been Teeth of Khorne and Red Butchers.
>>98604416>>98604421>>9860443112 Edition will be the edition of SPEED, fuck the deldar, we're going full space mongol.
>>98604385That's possible too, with us getting rumored 2nd Guilliman model instead. Still, if they want to bring back anyone else from loyalists, I believe in Dorn>>98604389Unless White Scars get an unique model range, I find bringing Primarch for them to pointless. What would that achieve? Bringing Khan would not encourage anyone to spend money on White Scars models, since those do not exists. And of all Chapters, I don't believe they would be next to get fleshed outHonestly that meme about bringing back Khan as Deldar Grotesque would make more sense. Could tie into 12th Edition narrative and be a massive marketing campaign, with self sustaining happening in fanbase, youtubers spamming videos like insane etc. Borderline second Fall of Cadia
>>98604432Both of those were set to come back since their respective 2nd edition codexes. That's what sets them apart from the others and why I keep trying to explain to these newfag retards the plan is not to bring back all the Primarchs. GW had two loyalists that were still alive, and the rest were dead, and the plan was always just to bring back those two and none of the others.
>>98604432Primarchs are trash for the setting and you should immediately think less of anyone who'd disagree.
>>98604389>Dark Eldar refresh gets a limited edition army set like the Ogor Mawtribes recently didHow fast would it sell out in pre-orders? Because I got the army set for Ogors but that set sold out within 40 minutes of going live.
>>98604444Quads confirm
>>98604056Remember, when people complain about your knight/custodes army being a "skew" list, they mean to say that their anti-marine army struggles against it.
>>98604408i jerk off to femboys and watch lore vids on warhammer. its a pretty good combination too
>>98604438Soon
>>98603703You could include a little green or blue from their other brands.
>>98604457Good job decalanon.
>>98604377>They had a chance to bring back Russ during Wolf refresh and intentionally missed it.I wonder what happened with that, it's clear they want to make a primarch for each of the big marine ranges, so why wait for the wolf one?
>>98604438>we're going full space mongol.but anon, we already are
>>98604448>>98604440We're getting a new captain on a bike, new outriders that aren't a monopose pushfit, we got land speeders back. I could definitely see some kind of WS coded battlebox down the line at the very least.
>>98604389as vect's chair
>>98604348And I don't need those fucking profiles because I have the grenade launcher.
>>98604469whats a decalanon
>>98604487You don't want to know, man...
>>98604358Mk10 is the face of 40k now, GW isn't going to show off mk7 since it is the token helmet. Like mk6 was before it.
>>98604438Imagine having the fucking adarki aledari as your main opponents and reason for your primarch's death.Embarrassing.
>>98604487The resident femboy lover, he also gets all his lore info from summaries.
>>98604490>Mk10 is the face of 40k nowDamn, that's pretty embarrassing, guess GW doesn't want my money then because I'm not buying those shitty primaris marines.
>>98603908Man these same models in every thread. I like seeing models being posted, not sure i enjoy seeing the same ones posted over and over again
>>986043897 loyalist SM factions and 5 CSM factions have their own product lines.of those 12 factions, 7 of them have a primarch or a primarch equivalent like abaddonThis is why I believe that we will see sanguinius or russ return next. GW seems to be making an earnest attempt at giving each faction some sort of epic hero centerpiece model (silent king, ghaz, etc) and I believe they will focus on the individual product lines first before adding primarchs to vanilla CSM, which already "have" guilliman.
>>98604370>Horus Heresy made actual upscaled space marines.And nobody cares about them.I've seen people constantly saying how they'll buy HH marines to play in 40k but I've only seen 1 guy do it.And no, you can't use them not being in advertizing as an excuse because it's wrong.GW shills the fuck out of HH constantly at every opportunity and still nobody wants to buy shit from it. Nevermind that Horus Heresy in general is just normie slop now anyway, everybody knows about it, so even less of an excuse for people not to buy them.
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>>98604503i'd rather the same ones over an over than none at all.
>>98604495>he also gets all his lore info from summariesNot to defend the mutant but that describes fucking 95% of you, so don't get uppity. The thing that sets him apart is that his models also look like shit and that he is physically incapable of not taking bait.
>>98604499Fortunately plenty more paypigs do buy primarshits than grogs or fake grogs ever bought, buy, or would ever buy, manlets.
>>98604398>GK helmets are inspired by MkIII, but they're not MkIII.Yeah, because they aren't mk3.They are Aegis pattern helmets, dumbass.Mk7 face plate IS a mk7 face plate no matter how you try to spin it.It's like trying to say that a mk3 shoulder pad is no longer a mk3 shoulder pad just because GW slapped it onto mk10 armor.
>>98604514Doubt. 40k made GW an infinity gorillion billion bajillion dollar company LONG before primaris shit.
>>98604512Although true we do have a fair few WIP posts these days, unless the lore bros are going at it and then we dont get many model posts at all
>>98604513Wow you must having amazing looking models, may we see them?
>>98604531You know the rules
>>98604377my guess with BT is that their primarch equivalent model would be sigimund willing himself back to life on pure rage alone. I would love to see Dorn return as an IF player myself but the last wall protocol feels more like bullshit campaign rules that GW will put in a narrative campaign book as an afterthought.AOS had that cool elven unit that was a hollow suit of armor, I could really see that for Siggy
>>98604537He's going to post his gay hugh jackman reaction gif
>>98604504I'll never believe the sanguinius one. That's the one primarch I would never accept coming back. It's the one primarch who would have a complete and total negative effect to the 40k setting if he was brought back purely because his entire character arc was built for him to die the way he did and create the catalyst for what would turn into 40K for a large chunk of the lore.
>>98604531>weNobody's on your side.
>>98604503he's discussing what marine chapter he chose so obviously he should post which marine chapter he chose. and someone with a large and well painted collection opinion matters. never complain about someone posting their army ever again anon you look ridiculous like you're looking for something to bitch about so now you're bitching about good things
>>98604444>and the rest were deadMissing*Only Ferrus, Sanguinius, Horus and Konrad and Dorn were every 100% confirmed dead.
>>98604499You were never going to buy anything anyway.
>>98604503Oh no 5 reposts of one image of a full army how awful
>>98604556I'll complain about seeing the same image over and over again and there isn't much you can do about it
>>98604525primaris literally saved gw from bankruptcy and increased its value like never beforemanlets don't sell, that's why they're only making primaris
>>98604507You know what would be a good happy merchant tactic? GW bringing Horus Heresy designs into 40K, since nobody is buying Horus Heresy. Lorewise, they can just make something up, like: “Guilliman found le cache of STCs from the olden days of le Heresy.”
>>98604319In the 11e codices warlords will give you +1cp per turn
>>98604571>primaris literally saved gw from bankruptcy and increased its value like never beforeNever happened
>>98604566Yes i agree
>>98604573So im guessing any unit that has a chance to generate 1 cp a turn on a dice roll is getting a different ability? Grots, gsc acolytes, etc
>inb4 posting the stock chart that shows the bump from 8th edition and GW having social media again
>>98604556he doubled down on acting like a faggot. "you can't stop me from acting like a faggot". and of course the faggot complaining about model posting doubles down on being a faggot when asked to stop. some real clowns here. it doesn't have to be this way but just a few shitty personalities can make a thread worse >>98603908Ignore the retard saying to not post models. Although some new pictures would be nice. Either way its always nice of people to share their stuff and show what they're working on.
>>98604444I think the plan was always to either bring up only one or one for each the main chapters with a codex and range of their own >ultras, bangels*, dangels, wolves, and maaaybeee templarsjust like they're bringing one demon primarch for each of the main chaos legions with a codex and range of their own>eaters, children, sons, guard, and maaay eee warriors
>>98604525>>98604574Keep living in denial.
>>98604584yes
You guys ever seen those vids of Indians getting hit by trains? I wonder if stuff like that happens in Hive Worlds
>>98603986DA are a bunch of secretive drama queens, muh fallen. Autistic levels of stoicism is way more an IF thing.
>>98604589The 4 Cult Daemon Primarchs were already in Epic and in the lore since the old days
So did the primaris money fund all of these ork refreshes? I'll have to thank a marine collector next time i see one
>>98604574>saved gw from bankruptcyno, butincreased its value like never beforeAbsolutelyFor GW there's a before and after primarchs and primaris. Don't be one of those retards in denial unable handle the truth. You don't have to like it, but it's a fact. >b-butNo but. those were the key changes and all the others wouldn't have moved sales in the same way, because they were tried before.
>>98604602lol those videos are hilarious, you seen the meme about their ancient tradition with the crusher?
>>98604585>>98604616AND IT KEEPS GETTING FUNNIER EVERY SINGLE TIME I SEE IT
>>98604612he looks like a cute girl. would anally breed and keep as an estrogenized boywife slave. looks like AI though
>>98604515>Mk7 face plate IS a mk7 face plate no matter how you try to spin it.So these are MkVII masks?>It's like trying to say that a mk3 shoulder pad is no longer a mk3 shoulder pad just because GW slapped it onto mk10 armor.Because it looks like MkIII shoulder pad? Would it still be a MkIII shoulder pad it if was made from ceramite instead of plastee? What if the studs were decorative instead of structural (like on post-Heresy MkVI shoulder pads)? Are the MkX greaves with no knee pads MkVI greaves?
Primarchs are foundational to the setting and lore and yes most will return, no point in screeching over it.
>>98604616>increased its value like never beforeSee >>98604585That was the year they reset the rules completely for the first time in 20 years and the entire online store sold out of practically every box of every unit of every faction. Primaris were a drop in the bucket. They also learned to actually advertise again and do social media, they brough back Necromunda which sold like crazy, they rode that general momentum into the COVID lockdowns where suddenly a million more people got into 40k so they had a hobby to do while stuck at home which caused another huge boost.At no point was any of this due to marines getting redone with trashier shittier armour and vehicles.
>>98604621permanent means permanent
Can I get a quick rundown on the Dark Admech? Who do they worship? How evil are they? Who is in charge of them? Are they chaos worshipping or just utilizing demons and machines for science?
>>98604572If none of that shit is selling HH despite the advertizing, why would it sell in 40k?
If gw keep releasing more primaris shit it might raise enough money for a deldar refresh
>>98604605Ok? feels like we're arguing about different things.They didn't have models or a proper introduction into the actual 40k, any and all decision to bring something forward has to do with that, the fluff literally does not matter and will get retconned or tweaked accordingly like it's been done before to turn the primarchs from dead to missing or potentially capable of coming back from the death one asspull or another.GW couldn't give less of a rat ass about the fact the khan and raven have never died, for example, they don't plan on giving shit to their chapters so they never come back even if they're more lore friendly than, say, sanguinius.
>>98604640Because no one wants to be stuck playing nothing but mirror matches against other marines, Xenos are the real reason for 40ks success.
>>98604626you're right lol look at the boxes>ORKS>ORES>KILL TEAM>NILL TEAM
>>98604612>nill team
>>98604545I am not sure how they would give BA a primarch equivalent model, I was kind of hoping that they would give the sanguinor that role but it didn't really shake out that way.Blood angels have a lot of lore about blood memories, maybe sanguinius is reborn through his own blood or the blood of his chapter? it's been 10 years since ka'bandha was mentioned. I think if he did come to the tabletop the only way would be to have him come back for round 3 against the bloodthirster (khorne daemons are past due for a range refresh anyways)
>>98604637>Who do they worship?Depends on the heretek group itself. But Vashtorr is probably popular, as much I hate the cunt existing.>How evil are they?Very.>Who is in charge of them?We don't know. Best guess Kerbol Hal if he's still alive after 10 000 years>Are they chaos worshipping or just utilizing demons and machines for science?Depends on the heretek group itself. Some have fully drank the chaos kool-aid and snort daemon jizz.Other groups keep deamon shits at an arms length and use them as batteries.
>>98604630No, they aren't, and no, they won't.
>>98604266So you're against having the godwyn pattern astartes plasma gun?
>>98604636Why can’t you just leave me be?
>>98604644>Because no one wants to be stuck playing nothing but mirror matches against other marines,40k itself is just mirror matches since 65% of the playerbase owns marines.>xenos Are basically irrelevant.The old tactical marine kit was the best selling kit for GW and it outsold the entirety of WHF.Only a minority cares about xenos. And minorities don't matter.
>>98604537
>>98604637Some of them like to form little cults with other cult members as revered leaders. I guess some of them ended up dealing with Vashtorr but that'd probably go poorly unless they're noteable.
>>98604630I think every army/collection is made better with a bigass centerpiece model. russ,perty and vulkan will probably be next though
>>98604672>since 65%wrong>and it outsold the entirety ofwrong
the new faction isn't called dark admechthey're now the Arkifane HereteksIt includes IWhave fun
>>98604649Looking at the table makes it obvious too. A mini land raider with a Predator turret, a gravis marine that is the size of a dread, the weird repulsor and devilfish hybrid tank in the back, etc. But these details are understandable the way ai works, by emulating large quantities of existing images. I remember not that long ago ai was genuinely shit and couldn't make anything that looked like a photograph like this, and you have to notice small details to know it's fake.
>>98604673Kek
>>98604545You right completely right and I agree with you. But I will still buy like 2 of his models at least depend on the options.
>>98604672>40k itself is just mirror matches since 65% of the playerbase owns marines.This is a meme from people like you who only talk about 40k online but don't go outside and don't actually play it with people.65% of people owning marines doesn't mean 65% of people are playing marines in games or have them as a main army. Most of those people play another army and just own some marine models on the side because GW shoves them in every single starter set and versus box ever. If you play Necrons or Nids or Orks congrats you are part of the 65% of people with Marines now because you bought Indomitus or Leviathan or Armageddon, and not everyone can be assed to sell off that extra half of models so they usually sit in a backlog or maybe even get built and painted but most of that players money then goes to expanding their aliens half of Crons or Nids or what have you. Go to any LGS and you will see there are very few Marine vs Marine games. Every faction is always represented at the larger stores.
>>98604680Centrepiece models used to be like boxnaughts, tanks, and other things like that. Russ had better be as big as a knight.
>>98604680vulkan would only make sense if gw decided to expand on the salamanders to the same extent as the wolves or dark angelswhich is very much possible, as far as I see from how popular the subfaction got, how convenient it would be for DEI points, and how straightforward their aesthetic gimmick is, but still, it doesn't seem to be on the horizon
>>98604680Agreed 100%
>>98604668Because you are permanently banned and should not be here lol!
>>98604673Thought of this when I typed it, too, kek
>>98604694boxnaughts were never centerpieces, a land raider was, a daemon prince was, a wraith knight was
>>98604686>Looking at the table makes it obvious tooNigger even looking at the woman made it immediately obvious, I don't know how so many people are so blind to AI style, it's just super apparent to me every single time in the first instant I see an image
>>98604703Boxnaughts would be a perfect centrepiece for a 1000 or 1500 point army back then, especially if you run a veteran box.
I'm never going to finish this fuckin gsc army at this rate
Was recess shading a big thing all the way back in 2nd-3rd?
>>98604621>he thinks it’s a memeindians have been playing warhammer 40000 before anyone else. just like how the emperor needs souls, the jagganath needs souls. the british even have records of it since the 1920s
How the FUCK do we STILL not have a separate red terror release? Wtf is taking them so long?
>>98604691Anecdotally, I have never seen a Genestealer Cult player at any LGS that I have ever played at. But I get your Justin, you're probably right
>>98604683The name could be worse, I guess, but how would that even work? does it just have all the normal CSM unit options copied into this parallel book? why even make it separate in the first place instead of adding the new units to the normal chaos book?
>>98604668ntab why can't you leave us be? You're already active on reddit and the people there probably don't all hate you, unlike here. You'd probably feel a lot more at home in a space wolf or knight subreddit. You're not wanted or accepted here but you might be there. Just go.
yeah man im gonna paint my army any day now lemme check the humidity for primingmmmm seems a little humid aww shucks gotta wait another day
>>98604683Fine with that if it's a combination of Iron Warriors and Dark Mechanicum, as long as you can run pure Dark Mech forces, like how you can technically run pure Kroot out of the Tau book.Not that I necessarily believe you.
I've seen every faction on the tabletop with the exception of imperial agents
>>98604731>he's an airbrushlet
>>98604721>Anecdotally, I have never seen a Genestealer Cult player at any LGS that I have ever played at.I've never seen another one but I AM the GSC player at my LGS lol. Also I see them used a lot for Necromunda.
>>98604731Airbrush chads dont have that problem
>>98604739>>98604742
last weekend there were 980 players on BCP tracked events, which includes every single BCP tracked game playedThere were ~400 Space Marine players and +59 Custodes players, so if you're lumping Golden space marines in with Space marines, about half the field is spacemarinesHalf the factions in the game are going to effectively get +1 to wound and -1 to be wounded. What a shitshow
>>98604740>tfw theres like 3 at my lgs, 4 if I include myselfI dont feel so special now
>>98604745Permanent means permanent.
>>98604747You guys should have a campaign where you fight for supremacy and try to assassinate each other's Patriarchs.
>>98604745What the fuck is your problem furpedo
>>98604585>>98604622>>98604631>blah blah blah cope cope cope>mixing the order of events>outright lies>ignoring all the previous times GW did similar things except Primarchs and Primaris>nooo, GW's no.1 product being radically changed didn't affect their bottom line! reeeePathetic. What makes a manchild repeat these compulsive lies in front of so many people ? Do you think that repeating a big lie is gonna make it true? Primaris won. Period. Deal with it.
>>98604720I already explained this to you. They're saving it for the 11th Tyranid Codex. It was never supposed to be released for Kill Team in the first place.
>>98604767You're so obviously new you weren't even there in 2017 when this happened and don't know anything about it, lmao. You are shitposting.
>>98604694arguable, I think scaling wasnt uniform back then and "big" was very subjective. GW is much more intentional now about model sizing and keeping things uniform so that one product range doesn't seem to tower over others unless it's their job to.>>98604695it's only a matter of time before they add another SM faction to the range. you could even make an argument that deathwatch don't really need their own codex and should be imperial agents instead. black templars only have 10 unique products, the space wolves range refresh was...12 i think. Salamanders already have 3 unique products. I think there is enough visual aesthetic to create 7-9 additional units for salamanders
>>98604770I'm yet say anything about it, im guessing another anon asked the same question. Is there a release date for the nid codex?
>>98604779>im guessing another anon asked the same questionFair enough>Is there a release date for the nid codex?Nope, they annoyingly don't do roadmaps anymore so I've been told, but Tyranids were the first codex last edition which means they'll probably be one of the early ones this edition after Orks and Space Marines according to the usual pattern, so hopefully not too far off, likely before the end of this year.
>>98604655Hmm so a Dark Admech group worshipping nurgle wouldn't be TOO far fetched? Reason I ask is because I am trying to /your dudes/ a dark admech faction but I want it to sort of make sense.
>>98604776Centrepiece may not necessarily mean big or biggest model. Daemon princes used to be on 40mm bases and made for a nice centrepiece for example.
>>98604761>furpedo Lies meant to distract from your personal life no doubt
>>98604710A lot of people don’t have okay levels of attention to detail like we do. My coworker put some signs to not touch some boxes filled with important paperwork and people still touched them. I told her to make the signs bigger and bolder then once she did it people suddenly stopped touching the boxes. There’s a reason why there’s yellow paint in video games
>>98604796It's grim, man. We need to put the NPCs in the crystals.
>>98604789It's completely fine.
>>98604775Do you think this board reflects the real world and the popularity of GW products? lmao.People voted with their money and gave GW tons and tons of it because Primarchs and Primaris. You're in denial because of your misguided and delusional self importance.
>>98604791You could argue that all heroes/HQs and machines of war are in some ways centerpieces but im talking strictly about the trend of these big, detailed models like the SoB procession, silent king, ghazkull, bobby g, etc. Logan grimnar, helbrecht, farsight are definitely centerpieces in their own right but they aren't PEQs.
>>98604789No they can adhere to a god same as cult marines.
>>98604813>Do you think this board reflects the real world and the popularity of GW products? lmao.No, if it did Primaris would be more popular.
>>98604815Yeah in that case I see where you're coming from. And yeah, HQs are great centrepieces too given they're ornate and tend to stand out in their own right.When it comes to gigantohuge models being centrepieces, that's definitely a thing nowadays. Shitty thing is that now every army expects them and I imagine every army expects them to fit the army to a T, so, knights might not be a good centrepiece for ad mech anymore because they're already an army unto themselves.
>>98604372I don't even own normal Marines, or evil Marines, any Marines at all that I've ever owned have been transitory, destined to be traded away because they were acquired through box sets or used as conversion fodder for interesting armies.
>>98604604Dark Angels had rules to not fall back even when they should
>>98604836After hearing so much about how good was 4th ed, I took a look at the codexes and was dissapointed.The SM chapter rules are unfluffy nonsense. Ork troops are more rigid than eldar aspect warriors.I would be forced to rewrite them, so it makes pointless to collect the codexes, bah
If primaris sold badly GW would've immediatly pivoted back to marinelets in 2018.
>>98604731Prime with a bush, you turbofaggot. Elbow grease, go buy a bottle of that.
>>98604852No, anon, you see they sold very badly, but all other factions and GW products sold so well that GW kept Primaris out of spite because they hate us!This is what some retards in this thread believe.
>>98604746But the marines, chaos marines and custodes are all fighting each other so it cancels out for most games. Phobos marines staying T4 in a S5 world will be tough. Points are going up 15-20% for mainline tacticus infantry.
What do you think of chaplains that don't have the ribcage chestplate decorations?
>>98604863>This is what some retards in this thread believe.Really nigga?
>>98604726They don't actually need much overlap with the normal chaos roster, not too much more than how the other cult legions overlap anyway.
>>98604735I never played the tabletop before. I’d rather jerk off to femboys. I am saving up for a new computer so I can play the Dawn of War games though
One of the worst sculpts of all time. I'd hoped that they were just gonna keep neglecting him but apparently they're making him the leader of a new chaos faction? Unfortunate.
>>98604896bad taste you have
>>98604896He is gonna get upstaged by Perturabo in his own faction.
>>98604896(you)
>>98604905Based. >>98604902It's just too top heavy, it looks lopsided and not in a cool way. >>98604906(You)
>>98604905pert isn't getting a model lmao
>>98604870I always told myself that I'd just love to play into EC if their whole army had -1 to be wounded and +1 to wound but they had to take 1 less WDP
>>98604882wasn't their one animation about how they do want to make use of traitor guardsmen?
>>98604896>sojack faced daemonWhat did GW mean by this?
>>98604683I believe it because I always thought Dark Admech can't stand on it's own, since they would be too similar to Admech. So they have to be either part of nonMarine Lost and the Damned or souped with Iron Warriors
>>98604934That you have brain cancer.
>>98604877I don’t really think much. Probably why I like Black Templars lol
>>98604937>they would be too similar to AdmechNo they won't, that has been already solved by their HH epic range
>>98604945Troon melty.
>>98604947>they are spindlier!Now they're too similar to necrons
>>98604947Show me the dark mech infantry. I'll wait.
>>98604918That animation was so shit, fuck you for reminding me it exists
>>98604950What do failed males on estrogen have to do with this? I’m guessing you’re secretly in the closet and thinking about transitioning. Sorry about that
>>98604963>Words words waaaahrds Uh oh! Stinky!
>>98604958These guys have Chaos written all over them
>>98604963It’s very accusatory, just ignore it so it dies off.
>>98604972those guys should be written out of the settingAbsolute worst non-character models of the last 20 years
>>98604960uh oh, deldarfag melty
Uh oh, meltyfag melty
Mmh melty
>>98604950>>98604970>>98604982I’m going to give you all these (You)s because you’re an attention whoring beta male. You’re welcome :)
>>98604996Fecalfag melty.
i wish there were femboys in warhammer. theyre so hot. no homo tho
>>98605004You’re wasting ghosts anon
>>98604972>chaos is when the robes are tattered
>>98605011Fag melty.
>>98605011
>>98604972>>98605014Genuinely what the fuck were they thinking
>>98605018i just think femboys belong in warhammer. can you stop being an autistic loser that repeats the word “melty” over and over like a retard
Has Invuln save been prevalent in the earlier editions? I can understand the point of it but almost everything having 4++, not sure if it's a good idea.
>>98605014>spiky helmets>animal legs>dressed in rags>chaosyes
>>98605028>we can't use the 40k skitarii>we don't want to make something too different>we can't make them identical either >fuck it let's just make skitarii that are a little bit more chaos coded than normal
>>98605013Do you really need to bite every single line people put out?
>>98605028They wanted to avoid making normal skitari a thing in the HH game, so that's the best they could come with.I think they're ok as corrupted Mechanicum troops, but retarded as loyalists
>>98605026thanks man
>>98605035>>spiky helmets>>animal legs>>dressed in rags
>>98605014Chaos is when the armor is spiky, and what happens when robes go near spikes?
>>98605041Mad I’m not letting you get away with your deceit?
>>98605047Any time, decalking.
>>98605048>no animal legs>no rags
ohhhhh I see whats happening. theres one dude here who really really hates another dude so hes gonna make it everyone else’s problem. this happens EVERYTIME in generals. what the fuck did you do to mindbreak this nigga?
>>98605063Behold, human legs>ragswe go back to >>98605014 then
>>98605072Basically just ignore anything related to Decals other than proper application and you’ll be fine. There’s like 2 chimps that just can’t help themselves.
>>98605072>pretending not to know the decalpedostay out of our general
Is it possible to do PG13 Slaanesh?
>>98604070 I still vote for reave captain, then when they update the Termi lord you can finish his fall.
>>98605059>everyone who doesn't like me is one personI'm mad that you're terminally addicted to a general that:>hates you>you hate>you've been banned from hundreds of times>consistently tricks you into having meltdowns without ever changing the bait>you insist you fit in with>you constantly act like a retarded foreigner in>you barely engage in the actual hobby of
>>98605084i see. thanks. ill try. i guess im used to it by now. generals are always like this anyways>>98605089nah nigga. im staying
>>98605091Murder and violence isn't PG13, so it isn't possible to do anything in 40k that's PG13
WHY DO PEOPLE WANT MORE IMPERIUM AND IMPERIUM ADJACENT SHIT!?!?!(CHAOS IS IMPERIUM ADJACENT!!!) We still have xenos factions that are all "uniform" units despite having groups of internal factions that are different. Imagine if we had Necron sub factions with different units? or anything else besides FUCKING IMPERIUM WANK. FUCK YOU!!!!
>>98605113But those are very child friendly so long as no nipples are shown. Fairy tales are filled with gruesome scenes.
>>98605120>why do people want more stuff for their own faction?Gee I wonder you absolute fuckhead. I'm not out here begging for more genestealer cults stuff because I don't play genestealer cults.
>>98605120Necrons are already pretty cool dude but I’d be down for more necron shit
>>98605120The Imperialization of Chaos cannot be stopped. The Imperialization of Chaos is the ultimate goal of the Emperor and the point of the setting. The Emperor plans to rewrite all of the Immaterium into his image. Abaddon the Loyalist, his greatest ally, is secretly into this plan. This is why he chose the name Imperium Nihilius, to retain the name Imperium.Together, all of Chaos will become theirs. Khorne will wake up on his Golden Skull Throne, not realizing there's anything wrong. Tzeentch will be unable to shapeshift in any form but Space Marines. The only drugs going through Slaanesh will be performance enhancers for Space Marines. Nurgle's Nurglings have already started wearing human hats. The process has begun and cannot be stopped. Besides Daemons, all Chaos on tabletop is already Chaos Imperium. Eventually there will only be Chaos Imperium. Then there will be no Chaos without Imperium.It's already working marvelously. The poster children for Chaos are CSM who fight with Bolters, Plasma, and other Imperial weapons. No Chaos Xenos exist. Daemons will be squatted and soon all Chaos will be Imperium + Spikes.Chaos will become Imperialized. Just imagine what this means, the Immaterium composed of thoughts from countless universes, all being Imperium. This means across all realities, it's impossible to even THINK of non-Imperial things. This is the Emperor's goal.
>>98605120I don't want to see necrons split into flanderized microshitters, just complete the bingo card for destroyers, update the last ctan shart and characters, and move on to something else.
Does anyone have the scan of the new "Combat Patrol Companion"? I have a few friends who are interested in the setting and the Core Rules book of the 10th was pretty good for the lore and the overall introduction of the factions.
>>98605127>I'm not out here begging for more genestealer cults stuff because I don't play genestealer cults.I am even though I don't play genestealers, I want to see them get a power loader a mole transport and a matriarch
>>98605120fuck off destinyfag
>>98605122You mean those fairy tales told in 1700s Germany? You think the concept of PG13 existed then? I don't think I've seen a violent Disney movie adaptation of a fairy tale.
>>98605120Sounds like a skill issue
>>98605120I like space marines :D
>>98605094I had a thought for half a minute of trying to convert kravek morne, but I reckon he's far too distinct and IW-themed to convert to a regular termie lord. Also he's got a really high gorget that I think won't work with a beakie helmet.
I read about Tortuga bay selling power armour pauldrons with the symbol of the Ukrainian armed forces on it. Which faction is the closest to russians? Orks?
>>98605101What him ignore this post because he cannot face the truth or reflect on himself at all
>>98605162Imperial guard?
>>98605162Russians are more like Tyranids because that's how much they value their slave soldiers. Ukrainians are like Tau because they just blow them to bits from 30 miles away with drones.
>>98604612>WARRAMMER Ralaro>Wlceers>Space Nukkes>Nill Team>Orrs>WARHAAMCR ELBDITCH GMEMSThis is the power of AI?! >Elbditch gmensd
>>98605162You want some tea?
>>98605162IG is your best bet, but generally in pop culture they're often depicted as bestial and grotesque, so Orks or Genestealer Cults would be a good fit.
>>98605120>why is the square jawed superman more popular than the evil space skeleton? total mystery anon, no idea how that happens
>>98605162Yeah, Orks are the closest to Russians. Tau are the closest to Ukrainians because they have drones
Hive fleets
>>98605167Why would I acknowledge a post full of falsities and vitriol that has no other purpose than to derail the thread and insult modelers?
>>98605170>because that's how much they value their slave soldiersBut that's both of them. They're very similar, complete with sharing an irrational hatred of Poland. They must be jealous of the sour soups Poles make.
>>98605201I have slav fatigue
>>98605190This is such a gross misscharacterisation of the fleetsClearly leviathan as the biggest one should have the biggest boobs
>>98605162They're the Iron Warriors. Just a slow grind of boring but horrible violence, collateral damage and total autism while pretending they're better than everyone else.
>>98605199>>98603871space wolves are gay
>>98605210Even your Serbian cousin who owns a taxi company, who wants to go bowling or play darts?
Image limit reached :(
>>98605190Behemoth a cute.
I have imperium fatigue.
>>98605222serbians are the absolute worst of them, the chihuahua of europe
>>98605217Yeah, space wolves are pretty gay. Viking shit has always been pretty gay
>>98605223It’s the most flat and boyish looking one of the group anon…
>>98605215>Just a slow grind of boring but horrible violence, collateral damage and total autism while pretending they're better than everyone else.isn't that all militaries today?
>>98605094>>98605161I'm a little irked that I'll have to downgrade his base. I won't be able to fit an entire dead wolf guard terminator on a 40mm base.
>>98605238Dude you’ve been talking to yourself and bumping your retarded wolf slander bait all day, shut the fuck up!
>>98605233I see you went for Deal instead of Revenge.
>>98605233What about Croats? They seem to be based right?
>>98605246more like gayce wolves lmao
>>98605190Behemoth > Ouroboros > Tiamat >>>Rest
Why is the mek support? Why do I need a unit of bodyguards if I want him to run behind my walkers??
>>98605246Dude you've been getting ragebaited with the same posts all day, calm the fuck down.
>>98605238I agree, space wolves are truly the worst faction in 40k, even worse than votann, who are also gay because larping as nordics among other crap.
>>98605241:(
The manufactured Wolf hate is having the opposite effect, more people are starting Saws than ever before. Just go to your local LGS and look how many Marine players are using Space Wolves compared to just last year.
>>98605269In my humble opinion the gayness problem of space wolves comes from them acting like fruity frat boys instead.
>>98605269But destiny doesn't have nordics so destiny + nordics is comparatively original.
>Destiny>not GundamVotann are Innovators.
>>98605269The Votann had a lot of potential to be cool. Have you ever played AoW: Planetfall? The Dvar is probably the coolest depiction of space dwarves I’ve seen
>>98605273I didn't say they were gay just because they were norse larpers, I said they were gay also for that.
>>98605291You’re the one who posted the femboy Gman aren’t ya?
>>98603825>Yellowcool>Yellow and redgay
If I ever saw a space wolves player irl I would fuck them up
I love the Genestealer Cults so much broshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1HC-OEEdy0
>>98605291Of course. I follow you completely now, and agree completely. Vikangs are a shitty, zesty larp. Triply so when you're SWs and do it in the most one-dimensional way possible.
>>98605076>not being able to tell apart the walker from the riderYou are pretending to be retarded
>>98605272I love my friends I made at my LGS but they’re redditors at heart. Can’t make a single slightly edgy joke without someone raising an eyebrow
>>98605315Yea certain people are just gay
>>98605275No one cares about your autistic hyperfixation
>>98605303>If I ever saw a space wolves player irl I would fuck themcalm down, m8
why do you guys hate space wolves so much
Can we just get a new thread going? This one is unsalvageable because of the off topic nomodels trolls.
>>98605162Chaos cultists.Orks do not engage in gay rape or worship weak leaders hiding in bunkers
>>98605327We hate the autistic, ban-evading redditor that spergs out over any criticism or joke concerning them. Ergo, we criticize and joke about them even more.
>>98602655The codexes don't have points for units, detachment point costs or force dispositions so it is literally impossible to play the game without using an appand also you can't officially print out unit points anymore because the munitorum points are now some website instead of a pdf you downloadGW has made 40k impossible to play on a tabletop using the actual physical rulebooks with no electronics or online updates.
>>98605215Iron Warriors do not use rape to punish their underlings, so no
>>98605327Hate is a strong word. Space wolves are just gay lol. Blood angels are also gay too
>>98605330space wolves being gay and the people who play them being tubby monthly axe crate beard oil redditor faggots is perfectly on topic
>>98605338>Ergo You’re insufferable dude
>>98605300No, why would I be?
Space Wolves should be more viking and less wolf. There's more to vikings than wolves. Even model names are wolf wolf wolf.
>>98605343If iron warriors found that rape punishment had a +0.2% compliance improvement you bet your ass they would.
>>98605327they're gay and so are their fans and are special snowflakes that don't fit the imperium or 40k and are written like the worst donut steels from some sperg's first fanfiction
>>98605359Jtbc no one thinks this outside of this place, you can go to a social gathering of Warhammer players and people adore the Wolves and their aesthetics.
>>98605371Me and my friends routinely beat up space wolves players at the LGS and steal their shit
>>98605371>Jtbc no one thinks this outside of this placeWrong, the only people who don't think space wolves are the most lame and cringeworthy part of warhammer are the few spergs who collect them without an ounce of self irony
>>98605371>Jtbc no one thinks this outside of this placeThat is a complete lie almost every single 40k person I've talked to either hates or dislikes space wolves for one reason or another.
>>98605371Me and my friends make space wolves players at the LGS suck our dicks. They’re trans too. Not sure if that matters
>>98605380I have a similar experienceUsually even the slightest bullying puts them in their place and they start submissively offering me their models to placate my violenceI usually take their models so that I can strip them and repaint them as something not gay, and then continue bullying them regardless
>>98605371>you can go to a social gathering of Warhammer players and people adore the Wolves and their aesthetics.lol no, they're a joke at best and an insult otherwise.
>>98605327Besides the furry I've just thought back to the space wolves players I've met irl over the years.>Weird kid at club that would cry whenever he lost and quite the hobby>Super weird teenager that admitted to having a cum shrine and was a furry>Short viking larger dude that got done for bearing his wifeNow this is only my experiences, but it hasn't been a good track record
>>98605411>that got done for bearing his wifewhat
>>98605411>viking larger*Viking larper
>>98605411>>Short viking larger dude that got done for bearing his wifefucking biggers, I swear
>>98605411I met one at my LGS that unironically wore a diaperHe kept shitposting on 4chan between turns and saying shit like “Aw great, I gotta delete my cookies again!”
>>98605411>>98605415*BeatingJesus Christ I need to wake up more before posting.
>>98605028>Fuck if we just use 40k skitarii they'll want robots>Quick make something up
>>98605063Don't sicarins have the same type of hooves?
>>98605411can't even post the cracked open a bear comic because this dogshit site has a minuscule image limit
>>98605048bird feet are hot
>>98605380You’re not funny and probably resemble a stick bug with a bird chest so I doubt it.
>>98604852Their production cycle is 5 years long you retard. If Primaris sold badly we wouldn't even have known until 2022. Oh, hey, would you look at that, in 2023 they released Terminators that were exactly like the Firstborn ones just bigger, instead of Gravis Catastrophinators with Steeltempest Boltcannonades. Huh, how interesting?
>>98605199>insult modelers?It's talking about you, not people who engage with the hobby.
>>98605327They tend to attract the most boring form of edgelord who wants to be super badass and play by his own rules but still be the super best boy and almost never has the self awareness to lean into russ pretended to be retarded too hard that he and his legion thought he was srs. If someone leaned into how hypocritical and and shitty they are as a chapter culture it would work but they're always 3 wolf mooners.
>>98605449>Their production cycle is 5 years longIt's 5 years for whole new armies that have to be designed from the ground up like votann, otherwise most releases take way less, for example starter sets begin work the moment the last starter has finished its initial run, while many small releases take just one year, and quick and lazy pity heroes can be churned out in one month from greenlight to shelves.
>>98605028They were thinking "let's making something kino and a little blanchitsu" and delivered, and you're a newfaggot who doesn't get the real 40k aesthetic.
>>98605466Correct, and Primaris were considered a full new army, not a normal expansion release, and pivoting away from that took them years to begin because there were still years of Primaris in the pipeline behind the initial wave.
>>98605455It's interesting that SW books, both in 40k and the HH, usualy deal with those themes showing how much they drink their own koolaid and the consequences. Specially in the HH, when they were almost wiped out 2 times for their retardation.Meanwhile, SW fans replicate urinonically the same pattern.
>>98605380Based
The Tau are pretty much blue humans
Kitbashing wraiths to be sehektars with some leftover pink/blue horrors
>>98605445I spacefucked your wolfmom while your allfather watched from the wolf-closet
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>>98605474>Correct, and Primaris were considered a full new armythat doesn't mean that "If Primaris sold badly we wouldn't even have known until 2022", you fucking retard
