Forgive Me EditionPrevious: >>98597348 >Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Green Bolas>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>tqUhh sorry for forgetting the OP, idk post a deck you're working on or something?
>TQStarted building Balthier and Fran but I don't know if I'm going to scrap it or not
>go to edh night>every pod is a gaggle of quirk chunguses with ugly AI proxies and meme playmats that will cry and shit their pants if you dare play a combo before turn 15
>>98603574This DID happen btw
>>98603574First time at a LGS?
>>98603574>you can play with fake cards>but god forbid you play with ai art and meme playmats!roru rumao>will cry and shit their pants if you dare play a combo before turn 15this never happens
>>98603594where did I say they can play with fake cardsif you cant afford a cradle you are poor and dont belong
>>98603598you could've just said fake cards and be done with it, but no you had to specify 'ugly AI proxies' as if usea fakes are acceptable
I hope you guys are playing graveyard protection for your second hand!
>>98603613using non MTG art on proxies draws attention to it. it is instantly noticeable, like smelling poo when a indian walks in to the room. however from across a table in double sleeves I cant tell if a card has a real or blank back
>>98603474Working on this shit. Looks like monkey is the commander.
>>98603643>a perfectly normal superdropi can only wish that the people in renton wa become perfectly normal
>>98603613im sorry you are so sensitive about your low taste coomer goblin children cards but we are all making guesses about your proclivities when we see them
>>98603623god this full art looks like shit.
>>98603675>muh proclivitieslet's not throw stones in glass houses when you're willing to fake cards 1:1
>>98603594>>but god forbid you play with ai art and meme playmatsYes
>>98603684How so?
>>98603697yes more i tell ya
>>98603474Where can Green Bolas be placed?
>>98603709The framing and perspective just leads your eyes away from places of interest like the elemental's head, the swarm of birds, or the person/animals below. At a glance I'm just seeing a bland spiral of vines.
>>98603684agreed. should be HULK enduring
>>98603732Usually on top of a Ugin's cock tile.
I don't play magic, how do I flip this thing? I heard they can have mixed/wrong cards but opening it is no bueno right?
>>98603474>TQBeen working on Shagrat lately. Got a few games in with him last game night and it played out alright. It's still mostly a pile of bulk equipment I had, but I liked the bones of what Shagrat was doing and plan on working on it more.
>>98603768Is it possible to remove the foil seal with hot steam?
>>98603778He looks like a pretty fun equipment commander desu. Might build him too.
>>98603768Hold it in your hands by placing a hand on opposite sides of it. On the top half, take your thumbs and bring them along the edge away from you. On the underneath face, dig a little underneath with your pinky and ring fingers, closer to the edge facing you. Applying light pressure, slightly lift the box. Once it's above the ground enough, no more than a couple inches are necessary, rotate your wrists towards you, so that your thumb is rotated towards your face and your pinky away. Continue until the underside of the box is fully within view, and the top half is no longer visible.Congratulations, you have now flipped the box! :D
>>98603840This reads like something straight out of fucking 2002
>>98603840I want you to know that I’d been having an extraordinarily shitty few days and really needed this chuckle.
>>98603847Nearly a quarter of a century ago.
>>98603492is this art from the game? i swear Fran had bigger tits and was less dressed.
>>98603893nah fran's always been like that
Could you say that terra and bombadil decks are building in a similar way with slightly difference between 'em?
>>98603893it was her butt exposure that was somewhat outrageous (ah to be twelve again)
>>98604084>Could you say that slop and slop dec-zzzzz...
>>98603893She was thin, honestly. That art is definitely the most delicious her thighs have ever looked.
>>98603574Regardless of the validity of this happening, jesus christ. I at least ask people, especially new people, if they are: A, okay with proxies in general, and B, Okay with my proxies during the rule 0.
>>98604190I would ask you to limit the titty proxies to creature cards but at least this one matches on color scheme.
>>98604190do you actually take those to the LGS lol
>>98604190Would play four of her, if not each one for every for my decks.
>>98604211Yes. The owners don't care as long as I don't use them to play against children, which I wouldn't have done anyway.
>>98604219why lie
>>98604210A female in a land given by the name of said land is fine, or if she's meant to be a personification of the land. When it's like "wasteland," and its just some big titty anime bitch in a market square of a town is dreadful. People on Etsy do it way too much.
>>98604211no
Mable builder here. If I showed up at your lgs and asked to play pic related in my deck with his spellbook. would you let me? >Spellbookhttps://scryfall.com/search?q=spellbook%3A"Recruit+Instructor"&unique=cards
>>98605012No
>>98605012>2-drop that repeatedly tutors an infinite number of copies of 14 cardsLots of hassle for dies to removal.
>>98605029iirc, you get to choose from 3 random cards from a spellbook. Then the chosen card is added to your hand.
>>98605012Only if you let me start the game with sol ring in my opening hand.
>>98605012Only if it's bracket 1, or you just follow the EDH rule of saying that "wish" effects don't count and forget the spellbook part.Otherwise, I don't care how balanced/unbalanced the spell is, you're using a cardpool I didn't have access to while deckbuilding, which doesn't seem like fair rules.
>>98605061>Be my birthday>Go play with my regular pod>Ask if they'd be willing to do a silly mode where on turn 2, we roll a dice and who ever seat correspond with the result would just become the monarch for that game.>RefusedAnt-fun assholes like you piss me off.
/edhg/ is for serious players only.
>>98605012>>>>>>>free access to Embercleave
>>98605055That makes it an even bigger hassle because you need to keep maintaining a pile of 14 separate cards for just one card in your 99.
>>98605095define 'serious player'
>>98605098>free>Each card that can perform the draft action has a predefined spellbook, a curated list of up to 15 flavor-resonant cards. When a card's abilities cause it to draft from its spellbook, its controller is presented with three cards chosen at random from the spellbook list, then selects one of those three to put into their hand.[2]
>>98605115it's not that hard, I play with a couple draft cards myself, all you need is a sharpie and some Infinity tokens. the bigger hassle is having extra sleeves for whatever deck you're playing with.
>>98605142Yes and you're doing all this because of one card in your whole deck.
>>98605012Genuinely rule 0 fags are annoying as fuck. >wh-what, I CAN'T break the rules of the game?
>>98605154>all this >having tokens and a dry erase markeryou're blowing this massively out of proportion. You're not Sisyphus rolling a boulder up a hill for all of eternity.
>>98605175>Need to have a stack of 14 tokens plus replacements set aside that you maintain every single time you get an attack trigger>Again, for one card
>>98605207I will attempt to say this as plainly as possible: a lot of players already have these tokens that are called Infinity tokens, their cards that you can write on with a dry erase marker. they come in packs of 25 to 50. again, for whatever reason, you're making this far more complicated than it is.
>>98605012not as annoying as the initiative, but still pretty annoying.I'd be okay with it only if you were capable of resolving it really quickly and there was never any confusion about how it works.
>>98605219>Alright I'm going to attack, time to shuffle my spellbook pile and draw three>Hmm, thinking...>Okay I'll take this one>Time to make a new token!>Okay now need to put it back in this pile and shuffleYou are not the main character you fucking faggot stop wasting time because you want your Brawl deck in paper there's 3 other people here.
>Is that 15 unique tokens? >aiiiiie help me niggerman, I'm going insane!
>>98605242do you pay the 2?
>>98605242Amazing, I didn't think it was possible, but your autism made a simple process sound convoluted. here's it plays out with my pod.>draft a spellbook card>use the spellbook app >write out the card on an infinity token>pass
>>98603864Obligatory>take me back
>>98605259>>98605270>>98605284Malding faggot mad nobody supports his retarded alchemy card
I'd be fine with alchemy cards. A lot of them look fun.
>>98605236>>98605012oh and also I don't believe this can "work" in paper unless the other players trust you to replace the card in your spellbook with the same one you added to your hand. (a lot of alchemy cards are like that.) so it would either require the other players to just trust you to do that, or you could errata it to say that you reveal the card when you draft it, or you could errata it so that the card in the spellbook isn't replaced when you draft it.
Conjure is a mechanic that could be easily made into paper. I really want some of those conjure cards to be real.
>>98605355*Shuffles a nondeterministic number of conjured cards into your library*
Post decks.>pic relatedI want to make this deck work, but it sucks and barely wins. I need to replace three mountains with a Demolition Field, Field of Ruin and Volatile Fault.
>>98605355>most retarded post ITT award
>>98605355After watching prof and his friends playing with that stupid bird that conjured the power 9 and the deck quickly growing into an unplayable size with flicker and clones, I need to disagree.
>>98605381are you trying to play it in bracket 4? this deck has so much soul but with brackets its doomed to "cedh for the extra retarded" zone. shame
>>98605381Something that might improve the deck a lot is moving to snow lands and using sunstone and glacial crevaces
>>98605381>Barely winsDecks built around trying to punish a single archetype generally have that happen when they don't play against that archetype.
>>98605381>it sucks and barely winsimpossible, /edhg/ told me MLD was this uber strat that's just being held back by wotc, surely there's more to MLD than just griefing and wasting people's time!
>>98605599if mld wins games its OP and deserves to be soft banned. if mld doesnt win games its griefing. us bloodmoon bros are treated so unfairly
>>98605616>if mld wins gamesclearly it doesn't based on >>98605381>us bloodmoon bros are treated so unfairlystop crying and just play magda cedh
>>98605547It's a bracket 4 because I want to play MLD. I don't have any other decks where I can play Decree of Annihilation or Obliterate. Casting Obliterate while having Burning Earth out is worth the price of admission, even if I don't win. Overall it's fun, but inconsistent and gets hated out quickly. It completely changes everyone's strategy and puts a real clock on the game. Things like Phyrexian Arena become a huge liability when you're losing 6 health a turn for a land drop.>>98605553Interesting. It would also help the Extraplanar Lens. >>98605590Yeah it really punishes landfall, but most people play greedy non-basic land-bases, and have to play lands to win, so it punishes everyone.
>>98605381
>>98605381I'm garbage so I don't know what I'm talking about, but it seems like a lot of setup for little payoff. Not enough cards that actually kill people and definitely not enough creature to stop you from dying horribly. And as a bonus, people will attack you right away because you are making their effective life total 20 or even 13 with one card.On the plus side it looks cool.
>>98605669>selesnya legend deck>no Saffi or GaddockWhy?
>>98605735I should get Saffi good idea.
>>98605599It's not hard to win with worldfire
>>98605381Now that Ive taken out goblin sniper I'm going to get 7 games where I desperately need it in a row
>>98606005*dies from cringe*
>>98604190I like you because you like sexy big titty goblins.
>>98606005
>>98606032
>>98606005I KNEEL
>>98605012No, because there's no way to verify what card you're drafting, which means there's no way to tell you haven't just arbitrarily decided you want the best one in the spellbook at any given time.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98606005I'm sure this is a very bad deck
Don't mind me, just chaining extra turns
>>98606099Its very fun to me. That's all that matters.
>>98606005Ummm, ok you can use your fake cards... but I will need YOU to provide the official gatherer entry every time I need to know what the real card does.
>>98606141If you don't have your own phone, then sure anon. I will do that for you.
>>98606005Love it!
>>98606105WTFFFF THEY PRINTED TIME WALK WITH STORM IN GREEN (THE MOST OP COLOR OPPRESSING BLUE)??? PLEASE SHELDON SAVE ME!!!
>>98605643I want to make a colorless deck, but buying wastes puts me off
>>98606158I keep my government spying device off when playing mtg.
>>98606171It is pretty annoying so I say only do it if you hate yourself
>>98606171To be fair you only need like 3-4 of them. The rest are whatever colorless tech lands you want because you're never screwed for which color mana you need. It's actually very comfy to play, I quite enjoy it
>>98605381I think the camera on my phone is dying
>>98606285jesus anon this is some 2003 phone camera quality
>>98606285This camera quality made me want to listen to Black Hole Sun
>>98606285>PSX filenameyou taking a picture with the fuckin PS2 Eye Toy or some shit?
>>98606290>>98606302>>986063182021 Asus Zenphone 8. It has a aux port and SD card slot. A truly amazing time for tech.I think 2 of the 3 camera lenses are shot it only likes to focus at 1 distance. LAn end to an era.
>>98605381Fenrir finally showed up in the fucking mail, so the image isn't up to date at all.>out: Aurora Awakener (was way too powerful and just led to 10 minute deck vomit turns)>in: Nylea's Colossus (sillier)>out: Mirrormade>in: Tidus, Yuna's Guardian>out: Fall of the First Civilization>in: O'aka, Traveling MerchantLegitimately don't know what to cut for Summon: Fenrir or Absorbing Man. Both are quite good at recycling Summon effects.
>>98606357Er, only Absorbing Man is good at recycling summons. Him and O'aka are coming in for that reason.
>>98606357Is staff of complaetion really worth it?
>>98606362It's jank but it's been good so far yeah. Notably the deck doesn't go too heavy on repeated sacrifice outlets, so in addition to twiddling your sagas ahead for 3 life once each turn the 1 life effect just lets you instant speed sac something to Brenard.
>>98604190I hate you because you're a faggot who sexualizes children
>>98606285cute shitty photo
If a ninja entered the battlefield through ninjutsu and I made a copy of it, would the copy also enter tapped and attacking?
>>98606417I believe no.
>>98606442Damn, there goes that idea. I don't see any other funny payoffs for this then
>>98606465Yeah, them tapped and attacking is given to them by the ninjitusu ability and not the creature itself.
>playing my trashy Brion Stoutarm deck that primarily consists of Act of Treason type effects and lots of mana rocks>deck has been doing nothing but sucking, but stayed alive because Brion's lifelink gave me a little longevity>last guy has killed everyone else with small army of hexproofed indesctructible whatevers>I cast Hallowed Burial to reset the field>he drops some big scary thing>Act of Aggression + Restoration Angel to steal it>He kills his scary thing and then drops another scary thing>I only then realize that the Splinter Twin that I put in my deck so I could duplicate monsters to chuck with Brion could also be used on Restoration Angel>cast Splinter Twin on RA, then use Hijack to steal his new creature by tapping RA to clone herself.>on his turn, he draws, looks at his hand, and then lays it out so everyone can see that it's just big timmy monsters>I reveal my hand, and show two more steal effects>he concedesI'll probably never see Restoration Angel and Splinter Twin together again, but I'm glad a combo I didn't even realize was in my deck worked out so well.
this card is very interesting but im having trouble finding the confidence(?) to actually play it when i draw it. i understand that im supposed to be okay with letting the cards get exiled since ill have more than enough cards to play the game with in my monoblack deck but there's always the fear of having the answers i need get exiled or the fact that every land is basically a complete whiff that my opponents get to exile for 0 hp. the upside seems incredibly powerful when my opponents life is low enough to feel pressured into letting me have the cards though.
>>98606285Try turning a light on anon. It's not like you will ever need to dim the lights for a woman coming over anyways.
>>98606417No. Tokens entering only enter attacking if the effect creating them causes them to enter attacking, i.e. myriad.
I don't care what other people say, but this is the best board wipe in the game. 3W for all non-land permanents. Only All is Dust or Decree of Pain can compete for pure value IMO.>No, Cyclonic Rift does not count
>>98606599Ok.
>>98606562This card is garbage, complete garbage. If ever a good card is reveal you will not get it, it exiles lands for free to so you may miss land drops all the time. Do not run this card. DO NOT. The only time it will pay off is when everyone is at 3 or less life.
UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKS
>>98606620How is it that you are the post annoying poster in this general?
>>98606613i'll be very impressed if the monowhite deck managed to have two extra white cards in hand to cast this for free
>>98606599The best is Farewell, on account that it selectively exiles, meaning that you're wiping out whatever is most advantageous to you, including hexproofed/indestructible permanents, and it also can cleanse graveyards.Hour isn't even as good as Austere Command in my eyes, because it's easy to shape the Command into being incredibly one-sided.
>>98606562do it pussyyyyyyyy
>>98606636t. time warped from the 2010s
>>98606614well the land hits are free but you still get your regular draw each turn so you aren't technically losing the cards. every card left in your library at the end of the game is a resource never spent
>>98606638True, but if you're playing a graveyard deck in white, the exile of Farwell, and the modality of Austere become much, much relevant. For 3W you can't get a better return.
>>98606685>*much less
>>98606681Yes, but you just spent 3 mana for a card that will do nothing but exile cards from you deck until most of the table is a sub 10 life.
>>98606629Really? Even over >>98605846
>>98606696He doesn't argue with people when they tell him he's a retard.
https://archidekt.com/decks/24027710/prosshThink I'll survive commander night?
>>98606685If we're going by that metric, Blasphemous Act is the best for its value of spending R to wipe the field of creatures, and gets even spicier if you happen to have someone like Brash Taunter out on the field.
>>98606695three mana one time to burn each opponent down to extremely low life is a pretty solid exchange rate, unless you have a low curve where the amount of life they're paying is cheap enough that the enchantment will never put out a worthwhile amount of damage per card "lost". I believe the math works out fairly well when youre deck includes cards that have somewhat chunky cmcs and you're discounting or cheating the costs anyways.
are there any fun combo commanders?aiming for bracket 3 so ideally something that will work without going infinite
>>98606599The graveyard is just someone else's hand GET RID OF IT FOREVER
>>98606715Yeah it's up there, but being able to remove everything but land is so valuable.
>>98606723It's simply a bad card. If you want to run it, that's you, but it is undeniably a bad card, by the time you opponents are low enough for it to be a threat, you could have killed them anyway turning creatures sideways. Giving people the choice to deny you a good card is never a good thing. There WILL be times when you need one of the revealed cards, weather it be a wincon, a way to break a lock of some sort, or just real card draw you desperately want and you opponent will say "No.". If it put the cards in the yard then it would be one of the best enchantments in black.
>>98606524how's it feel to cheat?
>>98603812Yeah, he's direct and clear in what he's doing which is something I like in commanders. The growing army he has can build some pressure while he keeps going in for commander damage. And the cheating equipment cost is convenient.
Sorry guys but I'm gonna build her
>>98603474>>Green BolasHm.... acceptable.
>>98606815SHUT UP! YOU'RE NOT REAL! GET OUT OF MY HEAD!
>>98606562Only run it with a lot of scry
>>98606709Prossh is a strong commander, and your deck is all about synergizing with him, so it should do okay.Aside from Food Chain, it doesn't look particularly scary though. Lots of good value cards, but few that seem like big and immediate threats until you're spending a lot of mana. It also feels like an uncomfortably low amount of removal, particularly when it comes to artifacts/enchantments.
>>98606709>bracket 4>food chain combo>dark steel ingotlol
>>98603574Thoughts on turning a Marvel card into a Final Fantasy card?
>>98606987Is food chain considered too weak for B4 nowadays?
>>98607015No. But Darksteel Ingot sure as fuck is.
>>98607024You sound like the casual here desu.
>>98607029I'm pointing out your deck's incongruity. You're running Darksteel Ingot in a Food Chain combo deck.
What if he just likes Darksteel Ingot? Huh nigger? What then? Fuck you, I'm putting it in a deck right now.
>>98607002One of the few ways to turn something as gay as Marvel even gayer.
>>98603768>how do I flip this thingYou have to drink everything under your parent's kitchen sink first, then do a flip off a 6 story building.
>day 10 of my package being delayedI hate UPS. Give me my fucking playmat.
>>98606382Vaush needs to find a new hobby, the shortstack goblin cope isn’t enough.
>>98607043ACK
>>98606382What the fuck are you even talking about?
schizo hours right now i see
>>98603768Hold onto it for two years and then put it on eBay at a 300% markup
Anyone else have good cards that are just too annoying to track?>Do practically anything>Poop out an incubate token of varying size >All the tokens need their dice can't just put out one token then use one dice to track the number>The tokens can also each transform into creaturesTheoretically this guy is a rockstar in my Krang deck but he's such a pain in the ass I don't even wanna use him anymore.
>>98607579belladonna
>>98607582There's several of these "first time, second time, etc" cards that are actually pretty good but I refuse to track them>>98607579Some of the day/night cards that I 100% refuse to run for the obvious reason. Still fuckin butthurt they took a super cool ability like werewolves transforming and had to turn it into *that*
>>98607584not only does belladonna need per turn tracking but every turn you're creating 3+ tokens and putting +1/+1 counters on everything, so you'll have 3 +3/3 soldiers, 3 +2/+2 soldiers, 3 +1/1 soldiers etc
>>98603574>guy sits down, announces he is using proxies and if it's okay>we start playing, he plays his first land>oh btw all my cards have a custom artwork following a theme and even a custom card template I came up with :)>don't even read his cards, try to end the game asap>oh I also forgot to mention this deck includes playtest and not yet released cards I hope it's no biggie :)>other guy combos off>I nearly did the thing and you just go infinite :(In theory proxying cards should not make the game feel any different but for some reason people who do proxy tend to be weird.
>>98607708>>oh btw all my cards have a custom artwork following a theme and even a custom card template I came up with :)I do this. Well, not the template.
>>98607708The first red flag should've been the fact he announced he was using proxies. That shit shouldn't matter to anyone, you don't bother to announce it unless you know you're intentionally doing some sus shit with your choice of cardboard.
>>98607715>That shit shouldn't matter to anyoneYou must be new as fuck here.
>>98607715>That shit shouldn't matter to anyonesay ai art is real art, go ahead i dare you
>>98607708>guy sits down, announces he is using proxies and if it's okayI immediately ask to see which cards. Just whatever cheap/fun stuff he couldn't find anywhere? No biggie I have the same. Tons of $30+ cards just for the sake of pubstomping? Yeah nah fuck off
>>98607757Literally me.
>>98607579i popped Cathar's Crusade early on in my Silk, Web Weaver deck onceholy fuck what a pain >creature cast, Silk makes a token human>add +1 counter to all creatures>the creature i cast enters next>+1 counter to all creatures>champion of the parish gets +2 counters from the two humans>kyler gets +2 counters as well>and so does champion of lambholt >i still have two more humans to cast so i have to repeat this whole thing twice
I am becoming disillusioned to the limitations of monocolor decks.
>>98607847can't have hybrid making mono too strong you know!
>>98607717You're not going to know, there's no reason for you to know, it really does not matter.
>>98607857>if you don't want to have any kids, do you really need to know if your woman's actually a man?
>>98607864Ok but you don't need your cardboard to be real to play a game, unlike your XY chromosomes keeping you from ever being a woman.
>>98607883but you DO need an official steward to maintain the game - that would be wotc, as shit as they are - otherwise everyone can print any card they want and that would be as official as any and anyone can aggressively shill any format, cali commander anyone?
>>98607884Are you mentally retarded?
>>98607886>card didn't come from wotc printers? i sleep>card didn't come from wotc R&D? holy shit!you are just as much of a cocksucker for wotc as you think the pigs are but what's worse is that you don't even know it
>>98607892Ok so you are mentally retarded, glad we're in agreement.
>>98607894no rebuttal? but of course, you brainletconcession accepted
>>98607847Monocolor is sovl
>>98607898You consneeded the moment you compared the concept of custom cards to proxy cards lmao you retard.
>>98607900>still can't argue why wotc R&D is god's gift to the playersyou do know that players can design their own cards just as much as they can print their own cardboard right? yeah that's right continue sucking maro's cock because he's the best mtg designer in god's green earth
>>98607907nta but this is why people think you are a troll and not genuine
>>98607907Why do all liberals argue by pretending to not know things?
>>98607908protip: argument from absurdity is by definition a troll move
>>98607847My mono color decks are all my strongest decks.
>>98607908Nah he's genuine alright, genuinely retarded and probably supports AI.
>>98607909you'd be surprised how much you can get away with making a custom card and people just taking your word for it that it's real, nobody has phones anywaybesides, they're not going to know, there's no reason for them to know, it really does not matter.
>>98607916>proxying isn't stealing everyoneone should do it>ai art? help police he's stealing from muh artists!like clockwork
>>98607917But in that case they would literally need to know and it literally would matter because you are discussing custom cards and not proxies. You can't just move the goal posts to where you're already standing and then declare you won.
>>98607924RInstantDeals 4 damage to any target>Holy shit we have to check on gatherer if it's real this is way too complicated to be a real card!
>>98607927What does complexity have to even do with this conversation?
>>98607930i dunno why are you so blase about proxies but holy shit people HAVE to follow real cards as if maro's spirit is looking at your pod from the astral plane>but...but...they have to know...reminder that people automatically assume your card is real until told otherwise
>>98607934>why do people have to play the game they're trying to playI don't know how to explain it to you because you're too retarded to get it. I accept your concession to life itself.
>>98607847blocks you're path
>>98607936love it when you have nothing to rebut and keep insisting that you don't have to explain yourself with your fake cards but demand people explain themselves with custom ones (hell even just custom art), cope and seethe
>>98607943>demand people explain themselves with custom ones (hell even just custom art),That is literally not what you were just arguing, learn English before posting.
>>98607949>what is argument from absurdityface it buddy boy you're just a midwit that loves to get free stuff, second order consequences is just a step too far for you i'm afraid
>>98607953All you proved is that anti-proxyfags are schizophrenic retards. Absurdity is correct.
>>98607961but enough about proxytards craving validation every waking day of their lives, bonus points they seethe that the game goes in the direction the pigs want lmao
>>98607962I don't need validation to play the game that way, WotC already officially did that like a decade ago.
>>98607971>I don't need validation to play the game that wayyou sure are clutching your pearls at the thought of me blindsiding retards with custom cards!
>>98607974Yeah literally cheating is generally frowned upon by most people. Now say some nonsense about how not paying +$20 for official cards in a format that doesn't care about using real cards is cheating somehow lmao.
>>98607979>stop whining about my fake cards, i don't even have to tell you they're fake>wait is that a custom version of Tifa? and you didn't tell the retards in the pod it's not real? HEEEELP HE'S RUINING WOTC'S VISION OF THE GAAAAAME GAVIN SAVE UUUUS
>>98607990You're just a cunt dude, plain and simple. You have literally zero recourse to being called what you are: a cheater.
>>98607997kek you literally couldn't even be bothered to have to tell the pod your cards are fake so really it's you cheating people out of a basic good faith interaction
>>98607990>custom cardCool!>UBslopUnacceptable.
>>98608003>spends over half an hour sperging that proxies are equivalent to using custom cards to cheat in public>you are SO RUDE to people for not having the common decency to let strangers know your already legal deck is both legal and cheaper than theirs :^(lmao
>>98608058haha took you more than 10 minutes to wipe your tears and you're just going to your last stand that you didn't spend so much for fake cards?your duper's delight is apropros btw, truly a mask off moment and further proof of the proxytard's desperate need to be validated as 'being ahead of the curve'
>>98608077Wtf is a duper's delight? That's Haze from Anonymous Agony.
>>98608086haha moronand stop crying about custom cards being cheating this isn't a sanctioned format anyway please point to me DA RULES that we have to use cards made by wotc R&D
>>98607908the fact that he does this in every thread and you can easily identify him by his tics tells you everything you need to know
>>98606777How did he cheat >>98606524
>>98608101Well for one you're not even playing Magic at the point you're using custom cards, so it's a moot point you cheater. And secondly you literally advocated for shit like >>98607884 to be real and legal so you have no one to look down on here desu.
Genuine card>A real card printed by WotC that is for play in any format it is legal inProxy>A stand in for a real card printed by WotC this is for play in any format it is legal inCounterfeit>A fake copy of a real card printed by WotC this is mean to fool people that it is a genuine card card printed by WotC that is for play in any format it is legal inCustom card>A fake card not legal for play in any format unless all parties agree to it before hand.Hope this helps.
>>98608145All these? Tools of the cheater.
>>98608143>Well for one you're not even playing Magic at the pointyeah like not playing 60 card as garfield intended? hahastill waiting for DA RULES that we must play wotc R&D made cards in edh btw!
>>98608145I think he knows the differences is he's just desperate to argue at anyone online because he's too socially retarded share his opinions on Discord without being shunned.
>>98608145>A stand inwho are you kidding (((current year))) proxytards have no intention of ever buying the real card which makes the 'stand in' moniker superfluous
>>98608157no surprise you'd be very familiar with discord, tranny
>>98608158I made a whole proxied Miku deck's worth of cards for everyone to share recently, and I did that to be a stand in for the actual Miku deck I genuinely purchased. The future is now old man.
>>98608167>I did that to be a stand in for the actual Miku deck I genuinely purchasedthank you for supporting the game even though you made counterfeitsthat wasn't so hard now was it
>>98608175You acted like proxyfags exclusively proxy and do nothing else the last time you lost an argument with me too. What a sad perception to have on life. I have to assume you must have been buck broken by some little kid doing some degenerate CEDH shit with printer paper proxies at your LGS to make you this retardedly butthurt at literally nothing.
>>98608158>Buy real cards>Proxy cards I already own that I don't want to buy duplicates of or are over 40 dollars to protect their value>Always ask if proxies are okay in the rule 0Don't paint us all with the same brush please.
>>98608198>You acted like proxyfags exclusively proxy and do nothing elsewell you already admit that your cards are fake and that you bother telling people they're not real, so you're already a step above much of the proxy player population>the last time you lost an argument with me too.lmao picrel
>>98608215No I don't plan on bothering to tell people any of those Miku cards are fake either because again it really does not matter. They can use their eyeballs to know that or not easily enough.>picBut you are a well known troll in this general at this point. I, Thanos obviously, would definitely know who you are in this situation. :)
>>98608208Technically you should be asking if proxies are NOT okay in rule 0 because rule 1 already allows them.
>>98608234>I made a whole proxied Miku deck's worth of cards for everyone to share recently>actually no I didn't tell them it's fake, please ignore my sudden switcharoodamn you're that desperate to win a lost argument in a basket weaving forum huh?
>>98608245>because rule 1 already allows them.source?
>>98608248What are you even talking about at this point? What do you think I meant by, "share?" Of course you can see they're images for fakes, that's literally what they're for for making fakes.
>>98608255https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/proxies-policy-and-communication-2016-01-14
>>98608261then you did inform them it's fake, verbally or otherwisei accept your concession
>>98608264thanks for proving that custom cards are in fact allowed in non-sanctioned edh btw :)
>>98608267No, I don't plan on doing so. I said that already, that was the basis of what we have been talking about this entire time that I don't care about doing. Retard.
>>98608274see>>98608145
>>98608277>i didn't say i love you so my actions don't count!you're such a tsundere lmao
>>98608264Neat! I'm still going to ask just to be polite.
>>98608282source on non-sanctioned formats not allowing custom cards?
>>98608285Ok just straight up non sequitur into baseless ad hominem, cool. I accept *your* concession. :)
>>98608298>being a tsundere is ad hominem nowall this arguing just to reveal that you're too much of a tsun to just say to the pod that your cards are fake
>>98608153>yeah like not playing 60 card as garfield intended? hahathe original game limited you to 40 cards though, everyone knows draft is what real Magic tm is all about
>>98608317don't forget ante, which btw should be legal since nobody plays with real cards anyway!
>>98607847Gavin imposed limitations mind youFree my boy Ruination
>>98608332that shit isn't legal in real life which is rule -1
>>98608289Do you play with a 100 card deck?
>>98608332Hell yeah they should be, I'm tired of people being pussies. Obviously then and only then would it make sense to bother revealing what proxies you are actually using.
>>98608352the whole point of ante being banned is because the working assumption is that people don't want to gamble away real cardboard but since we're in 2026 now and people print cards from their home gambling away worthless paper has lost all meaning so by definition ante must be allowed again
>>98608366Why would proxies existing make gambling be legal? If you ante a proxy then it's literally not gambling anymore and not the actual game.
>>98608345no source? yeah thought so
>>98608402>Dodged the questionCurious.
>>98608392gambling away fake cards isn't gambling as intended? yeah i think playing with fake cards is also not playing the game as intended too
>>98608407when did you stop beating your wife? just curious.
>>98608407That is like ALL that guy does. And then he runs away when he can't think of anything.
>>98608426wdym i'm just asking for a source of DA RULES that custom cards aren't allowed in non-sanctioned edh is that so wrong?
>>98608408Yes, now you understand why ante was banned, because you can't really use it while playing the game as intended. This has been said.
>>98608436no ante was banned because wotc didn't want to get in trouble for promoting gambling to its 12+ audience you imbecile
>>98608431>I'm just being an obnoxious cunt to people asking questions I know the answer to for no reason is that so wrong?ye
>>98608443or you could, you know, just concede, i accept all concessions :)
>>98608442I accept your concession.
>>98608449love it when people proxy their entire decks but get mad that they must *gasp* print another one if they anted and lost haha
>>98608457Ante doesn't work with proxies because they have zero monetary value, we just went over this Retard.
>>98608464magic doesn't work either with proxies because they're fake, we went through this too you know lol
>>98608472No, magic doesn't work in this world because you touch yourself at night and God hates you,
>>98608476Proverbs 11:1: "The Lord detests dishonest scales, but accurate weights find favor with him."sorry fren but god sides with me :)
>>98608480By your own source you're going straight to Hell clearly because you lie to everyone especially yourself.
>>98608484>you lie to everyonetell that to the guy who doesn't say his cards are fake pregame lmao
>>98608489To lie that would imply there's some sort of deception going on but there literally cannot be when there's both nothing being played for money and zero sanctioned rules are being broken. But you've already expressed how little of a shit you give about the actual rules of the game.
>>98608494>both nothing being played for moneyreminder that ante is defined as taking ownership of someone's card, NOT that the card must have intrinsic value; it just so happened that people were using real cards with value back in the day and wotc didn't want the baggage, but since people use fake nowadays there's no more baggage and ante must be reinstated, if only to piss people off that they have to print cards again>zero sanctioned rules are being brokenyeah like playing custom cards :)>But you've already expressed how little of a shit you give about the actual rules of the game.and yet i've just proven that i know more about the game than you ever did!
>>98608510If you use fake cards in ante then it literally isn't gambling anymore. That's the whole point and spirit of the effect. Figures a soulless bootlicker such as yourself can't wrap your mind around that.
>>98608525>a proxytard using fake cards insists on arguing about 'point' and 'spirit' in a children's card game with no self-reflection whatsoeverlove it hahaha absolutely love it
If you roll up to the table with your own custom cards and I catch you playing them, I'm just not gonna play lol. Fuck playing with some retards non wizards R&D trash
>>98607847Yeah I'm thinking of building Zo-Zu again just to punish those greedy piles.
>non-sanctioned means no rules what-so-everIs this truly the level of delusion we've sunk to?
>>98607990>The threadshitter is the gooner who won't shut up about Tifa
>>98608489>>98608538>"Muh children's card game" memeFriendly reminder that this shitter's proxy crusade is because someone scammed him into buying fake duals several, several years ago. Retard was willing to spend triple digits on two pieces of cardboard "for a children's game."
>>98608715>wotc says they only care about sanctioned formats>they do not specifically prohibit proxies in edh, a non-sanctioned formats>therefore proxies are allowed there!Make a wild guess at another thing wotc didnt specifically prohibit in a non-sanctioned format
>>98608747Oh look a retard who thinks everything for children must be dirt cheap!
>>98608747Pretty sure his point is, if chang users want to cheat, he can cheat.
>>98607708Some guy who used to go to my LGS had a fucking fully proxied Jodah the Unifier deck except all the arts were Pokemon. Even the lands were Pokemon-related. Maddening to play against with everything unrecognizable.
>bought a verge land (real card)>also bought a fetch land (fake card, original art)
>>98608808>shows a pussy for being too pussy to use fake art
>>98608781They are prohibited in the general rules of both magic and commander of which the game still uses in non-sanctioned play.You know this. You are just being obtuse on purpose.
>>98608819>they are prohibitedSource doko? Haha
>>98608796WotC provides proxies in limited, so your point is moot.
>>98608811I'd use fake art if I could fond a good one but most of the ai slop is both overdone and obscene to gaze upon
>>98608860that's nice sweetie now post the magic tournament rules (MTR) regarding that
>>98608872Uuuuuuuh, okay.Here's a perfectly legal proxy card.
>>98608274>non-sanctioned edhNice, Wishes work too btw. Just grab any card you want out of your binder. Just make sure to do it in a timely manner or you will be called out on stalling.
>>98608828100.2Of the comprehensive rules.While proxies are not traditional, they represent traditional cards.Your fake cards do not.GG no re, fuck off.
>>98608879Substitute CardA game supplement with a Magic card back that can be used to represent a double-faced card or meld card. See rule 713, “Substitute Cards.”game supplements are not proxies btw :)
>>98608881traditional magic cards are cards made from authorized wotc printers fyi
I proxied like two playsets of every dual just to spread them around the playgroup in order to make my price of progress & co. win more games
>>98608885How are they not?
>>98608889>HOW ARE THEY NOT?!?! AAAAAIIIIIEEEEbecause wotc said soyour seethe makes me happy
>>98608892>because wotc said soSource?
>>98608887Thanks for the understanding.
I remember the time when people had to play substitute cards in place of Nexus of Fate because it only came as a pringle.
>>98608896See rule 713, “Substitute Cards."
>because corporation said I have to buy their thingmaterialist stooges, the lot of you
>>98608903Nothing in that rule disproves my argument.
I will continue to buy Chinese proxies and I will continue to trade them to unsuspecting players and LGS ran by dipshits, especially at conventions.>but anon, people will notice They don't, all you need to do is spend a few hours shuffling them with a bunch of old cards and scope the LGS/booth/player beforehand. All in all, across hundreds of conventions and stores, I've probably put about 600 cards in circulation. I won't even talk about online sales, that's just the easiest thing imaginable.
>>98608808someone should place a jace hood on that cat
>>98608905please point on the doll where wotc specifically says that substitute cards are the same as proxies
>>98608900such corner cases are covered in the MTR btw
>>98608911Bottom text of >>98608879 says I can use it to represent a double-faced card.Weird sexual projection.
>>98608917the word 'proxy' is also missing there so weird sexual projection indeed from (You)
>>98608920Point at the rules or card text that says it has to represent a card I own.
>>98608933cards you use are automatically assumed to be your own, because otherwise ante won't work :)
>>98608937That has nothing to do with what I just asked for.
>>98608909No one asked for your greasy haired evil genius monologue.
>>98608898not all traditional magic cards are legal in all sanctioned formats unfortunately, but hey that's legal in non-sanctioned edh!
>>98608881>While proxies are not traditional, they represent traditional cards.>Proxies are fine in non-sanctioned game - Gayvin himself Yes.
>>98608945>Proxies are fine in non-sanctioned gameand so are custom cards, easy
>>98608951They aren't. Please follow the chain of discussion.
>>98608937Wrong.There's nothing in the ante rules that state that a player must own a copy of the cards being anted, only that the player who wins gets ownership of the cards. This loophole lets ante cards to be used for optional cube drafts where one player owns all of the cards being used.
>>98608964>They aren't.source?
>>98608969Please follow the chain of discussion.
>>98608943This card is "legal" in non-sanctioned edh too.
>>98608972That has a non-traditional-Magic back.
>>98608967well i take it you'll forgive the game for assuming xir's ownership and you actually borrowed someone else's cards, but not everyone is fortunate enough to have such friends
>>98608972unfortunately it can't work under magic rules, please edit it so it works under magic rules thank you
>>98608973So do dual-face cards. That's ok I'll run it in a sleeve.
>>98608971>can't show the sourcei accept your resignation
>>98608976Literally just admitted to being friendless kek.Please point at the rules where it states that, and answer >>98608933 too.
>>98608988>>>98608937oof
>>98608988Source had already been shown. Please follow the chain of discussion.
>>98608996>i don't own anything i just mooch off from my 'friends'massive mask off momentbut nice that you let go of the substitute = proxy thing because you got nicely btfo off that, surely this one will work if you just keep ignoring the answer haha
>>98609019Friendless schizo malding, but I don't see sources
who are you quoting?
>>98609030His tulpas
>make sensible and non-inflamatory argument that doesnt address any poster specifically>no (You)s, bots keep engaging each otherThis culture war fought by AI just isnt for me.
>>98609038if by tulpas you mean custom cards, they are as real as your fake cards :)
>98609055Jannies, please get rid of this schizo trash.
>>98609053sorry if i missed you, but what post was yours? generally if i agree with it or it doesn't contradict me i just ignore it
I would sooner let someone play oracle of the alpha and shuffle the power 9 into their library than let some stuck up power gamer timmy play a proxied tundra in my bracket 3 game
>>98609092holy based
>>98609083doesnt matter I only was making an observation out loud, but thanks for the (You) on this one, it makes me hopeful that there is still a minority of real humans posting. I forgot the cardinal rule of the site anyway, ignore text-only posts and only pay attention if there's an image attached
What do anti-proxy tards do when someone sits down with chang proxies? Do you demand they unsleeve their cards so you can inspect them? What do you so what that person tells you to suck his dick?
>>98609116i dunno anon what do chads do when a tranny insists that xir's a real woman?
>>98609092can the oracle be a proxy?
>>98608984Choose one:Return target exiled creature card you own that was put there from the battlefield by an effect an opponent controlled this turn to the battlefield under your control.Target creature gains haste until end of turn and can't be blocked this turn. Effects that would prevent that creature from attacking cannot prevent it from attacking this turn.Destroy target soulless jailer, mogg jailer, yixlid jailer, or grenzo.
>>98609116>>98609123suck the dick so they leave, obviously
>>98609137>>98609135these cards are legal in edh even if you just scribbled them on a basic island
>>98609123Why are you constantly thinking about trannies?
>>98609144except oracle is acorn
>>98609147but aren't trannies the perfect real life example of a counterfeit gender?
>>98609159technically acorn was made to specify that it's not allowed in sanctioned but fine in casual, just so happens that it has the same perception as wishes (which are also technically legal in edh)
>>98609116Stab you in the throat.
>>98609161No
>>98609253ok tranny
I'd almost prefer ai bullshit spam compared to all this autism.Almost
>>98609254t. goblino that looks like a troon
>>98609260Why are you constantly thinking about goblins?
>LGS has some JP Innistrad packs>grab one>the rare is fucking GriselbrandFOR FUCKS SAKE EVEN WHEN I LUCK OUT ITS NOT GOOD, I CANT EVEN USE THIS GUY
>>98609288Because you won't stop shitting up these threads
>>98609312shitting up the thread ≠ arguments you can't refute btw
>>98605381why not strip mine instead of demolition field? or even wasteland
>>98609305just calm down and hodl, griselbrand will be a gc soon enough, be diamond hands
>>98608909a lot of people have loupes now. you might get a few across but people buying anything valuable check the T. and the card feels different. even one's with the best look and pass the green dot test they won't pass the light test. "few hours shuffling them". also will not make them look sufficiently old either.
>>98609371>Few hours shuffling thenYou spend all day rubbing them on your jeans. Then they will looks worn enough.
>>98609147Please stop wanking your little micro pecker to us shitting on you mentally ill troons. Your autogynephilia is preventing the desired result of you having an epiphany that results in a colossal depressive episode that leads to you going an hero.
>>98609383what if i just spend that time working instead and have the money for a real one
>>98609426You spend more time wanting to talk to trannies than you do talking about edh.
>>98609446No I talk about EDH, just not with victims of child grooming that live with a permanent brain fog due to ssri abuse.
>>98609355will he get demoted? i thought he was on a level of "too good for the format"?
>>98609476griselbrand more or less will have the same impact as peer with the benefit of it being a creature and wotc needs as many iconic cards as possible to further drive sales
FFS all it takes is one dickhead troll and another retard taking the bait to totally derail the thread. Why are you this way troll anon, be better. Also- stop taking the bait retard anon holy shit
>>98609502>vague posts about someone derailing the thread>which in itself derails the thread
>>98609587I dont need to point out either of them, its obvious. Regardless - anyone have and interesting /not well known cards for a Chief Of The Wilds tribal deck? Its my first time building a tribal deck
>>98609627chief of the wilds needs better wolves and battles, it's currently not that impressive right now
I inject myself into arguments to grandstand that I am better than the people in those arguments.
What do you guys think so far?https://archidekt.com/decks/25987619/im_sorry_not_really
I'm of the opinion that this zeta set drop is a bait to get scalpers to spend all their cash before the commander mystery booster drop
>>98609628Yea, big reason why I plan on adding changling's, Maskwood Nexus too, its not gonna be a high power deck. I have wolfs that have been sitting in my binder since the first Innistrad release and ive been wanting to use them. The battle thing is odd considering they didnt print any in the set
>>98609631Based
>>98609654That could explain things. But my concern is that this could also be an experiment to see if entirely random Secret Lairs are possible.
