Warhammer chuds are so spiteful they will constantly attack an indie game for “not letting us embrace being crusaders” while space king just doesn’t care and lets its man child audience go crazy and pander heavily

Ditch Jihad LOST LMAAAAO

CHUDS WON

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>>98621828
Absolutely amazing.
I really hope Space King is taking notes from what TC did after a successful kickstarter on what not to do. Same goes for Project MourningStar.
>>98621863
Speaking as a backer for TC I can tell you that there's a lot of reasons to dislike TC even after the mishandled drama when Inq28 mods of the the defacto official discord went retard and TC sided with them. But you'll deny when you can and downplay when you can't deny.

Pandering to chud man children will only work for another couple of years with lord Cheeto after that Flashgitz will tell you all space king was actually satire the entire time

>>98621828
>wargame vs boardgame

>>98621863
>>98622091
>>98622107
Is Trench Crusade basically an Icarus lesson of tabletop games in a different way on how to squander potential in a similar way to how Privateer Press handled Warhamachine and Hordes? There was no way they were gonna be as big as GW but they're maximum potential was squandered by a series of mistakes and no L taking.

I still play trench crusade. Just ignore all the online tranny drama and just play games.

>>98622162
It wasn’t icarus, if we are being honest trench crusade was always woke. It’s from a leftist fanzine originally.

The issue is 40K chuds were getting made at 40k and 40k chuds only like vibes they don’t actually like lore purity unless it fits their views.

TC was getting hyped, every chud tuber was planning to cover it, and many many people were saying inq28 were woke were only called GW shills, female custodes happens and the chuds see an opportunity to prop up TC as the ultimate 40k killing blow and then Inq28 were again leftists who didn’t want Chuds

Flashgitz are just tapping the unapologetic man children who hate satire something TC never wanted to do

>>98622193
I'm still working on my TC warband in collecting STLs for it. Too invested to stop now. I know TC messed up many times but it is like having a collection and finding out you're almost done. May as well finish.

>>98622091
It's already satire, it's just aimed at people who take 40K too seriously and say shit like "Erm do you really think the Imperium are good guys?". Besides, they've been doing this type of humor even before the Orange Age so it's not like it's trend chasing

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>>98622215
People ignoring Inq28 because of Lel cool crusaders are just the usual midwits

>>98622215
>It wasn't Icarus
Please say you're trolling. You already look bad here, but it will look worse if you aren't. It had the best timing to go public, best art to generate hype. And now it is just known as a culture war battleground anon then Kickstarter mismanagement along with more.

>>98622240
Flashgitz aren’t making fun of chuds they outright hate satire and often shoot down everyone who says it

>>98622253
It was only Icarus to chuds who thought they’d have refuge

>>98622261
So everybody including me burned out from bad resin prints and kickstarter book being very late and Tuomas saying he'll be better than GW with his walled garden speak about price then the Prussian box is worse value than a GW guard box are "chuds?"
Anon please say you're larping as a damage control TC fan the way "chuds" think they would act now.

>>98622283
Ngl most tc haters are just delusional chuds though the worst Warhammer had to offer and they all went back to Warhammer anyway just sit around in the shit like a get losers

>>98622257
I didn't say they were making fun of chuds, other side of the coin, anon.

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>>98622162
The difference is that downfall of WarmaHordes didn't involve taking sides in the culture war, it was plain old arrogance and firm belief they've grown big enough to ignore disgruntles voices from the player base, just like GW does.
TC is more about letting the project get poisoned by vocal minority and losing majority of potential customers.

>>98622257
Flashgitz might claim to hate satire now, but that's just a pose. Looking into the history of their projects before SpaceKing should be proof enough.

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I'm looking forward to laughing out Reddit King tards from my LGS when they inevitably try to use those "minis" (board game pieces) in normal 40k

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>>98622364
TC fell apart because it fired all the trannies trying to turn it into a "T-sport". GW then scooped them all up, hence the absolute state of nu-40k

>>98622303
For me it was disappointment at what Trench Crusade could have been and had so I do sound like a hater. I get that.

To be honest I wouldn't use "chud" in any context as real "chuds" probably just look and laugh because those who use it tend to fit in the negative stereotype images they have of those they disagree if that makes sense. It is kind of like when a guy says "i'm a nice guy" during a date and most women know he is gonna be an asshole and a lot of trouble not the fun kind if that explains things. The woman version of that line is "I'm not like the other girls."

>>98622364
>WarmaHordes was hubris and retardation and ignoring fans triad
Okay fair enough. My bad.
I do feel that you hit the nail well with Trench Crusade.
I do think the TC general gets shit on a lot because before the Sharty hack that took 4chan down, there was a janny that was a defender of Trench Crusade and that really soured the perception of Trench Crusade on /tg/. You had to be careful how you phrased criticism of Trench Crusade when it was stuff outside culture war stuff lest you cop a ban.
I think a good chunk of the shitposters and trolls is "revenge" if that makes sense.

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>>98621828
>mfw I'm not one of those 20k cucks who backed a grimclusive game

>why isn't there black and white morality in this grimdark setting?!?! I want to be le ebin crusader just like my favorite primarch!!!!
holy shit why are moralniggers like this

This says they literally made 3 million dollars.
How the fuck is that a downfall for an indie tabletop game?
I'd have to work for ten years at 50 dollars an hour to earn that much.

>>98622533
The vast majority of it goes to a random Chinese manufacturer that adds extra lead to drinking goblets, other big chunks to shipping and marketing, and the rest is shared by a bunch of guys who each get $24k before tax, or in other words $2k/month for a year's work. The only ones getting rich are Chinaman and the IRS.

You want to hear a funny Trench Crusade joke?
Aztecs.

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Yeah but Space Kang is more like adventure board game though.

>>98621828
TrannyCrusade can't apologetically enjoy the cultures they're building off of and ultimately are the same kind of greedy fucks GW is.
Space King is made by autists who love what they're making because it's adapted from the aspects they love from 40k but couldn't express because GW rapes their fans and is trying to go safe edgy.

TC's failure has more to do with them not understanding or respecting their central premise (because it is a game made by atheists who cannot even imagine believing in God), with their walking back 3d printing support (money stolen), and their fucked-up rollout & low quality of minis they released.

Pissing off "the chuds" for tranny points probably didn't help them, either, but the actual product was botched. They still turned a decent profit on the grift, though.

>>98623536
Jesus christ christcucks are insufferable. I wish Hitler would come back and gas both the retarded fairytale believers AND the trannies.
Also if you play TC and don't immediately choose a heretic faction you are most likely gay or a physically weak man IRL.

>>98621828
I am so tired of the unemployed and their faggy culture war. I just want to play games, I don't care if the designer is a loud annyoing tranny with blue hair or an obese retard in a fedora, if the game is good and they don't shovel their modern day slop into it. Anyone invested in this shit is a fucking retard and should kill themselves as soon as possible.

>>98623917
It isn't and they do, so I guess try something else, lol.

I want TC to win , because I want to know what atheists make out of the setting , a lot of silly stupid schitzo shit to make fun of.

and the player base doesn't care because they think I sacrifice goats to pinocio . its a win win.

>>98622091
Space King is a satire of Rogue Trader/early 40K. Thats why people like it.

>>98623947
It also has no cuckos.

>>98623956
Not entirely sure what you mean but sure. (a bit drunk after three glasses of mead and three rom's on the rocks(

>>98623983
make sure you get lots of water down too so you miss the worst of the hangover

>>98623942
TC is a loser by virtue of trying to gatekeep the majority of people interested in the subject matter out of their game. If they were honest and understood the situation they wouldn't be trying to be a commercial franchise to begin with because the "MODERN AUDIENCE" doesn't buy shit or play games.

>>98623992
I take NAC early in the day when I know I intend to get drunk so its all fine. Haven't had a proper hangover in at least six years. Still do drink water during and after though. Thanks for caring.

>>98624014
No worries. Enjoy your boozing.

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>>98622476
the dumb part is it's legit a black and white morality setting. hell is real and souls exist and are tortured forever in hell. no matter how gray and edgy the non-hell factions are they are ontologically superior to hell in every way because "being raped and tortured by devils in hell for 1,000,000,000,000 years" is literally the most evil thing you could ever imagine, so any side that doesn't do that is automatically a pure lawful good angelic crusader.
The trench pilgrims could be killing orphans to use their virgin's blood to soak bullets to fight hell and it would still be completely morally justified in-universe, since Heaven and fucking GOD exist and innocent souls go to heaven while Hell and damnation tortures humans for eternity. Killing babies is bad but if you know with 100% certainty the afterlife exists and they're going to heaven, but if earth is overtaken by hell everyone alive will suffer eternal damnation for a trillion years if Hell wins, then the orphans go into the orphan crushing machine with a smile on your face. And nothing in TC is actually as evil as feeding babies into a wood chipper to kill devils, it's just basic realities of industrialized war and conscripts and some human experimentation to make super soldiers with dubious methods. But against ACTUAL FUCKING SATAN AND THE FORCES OF ACTUAL CHRISTIAN HELL that's all totally justified, even the Neon Genesis Evangelion shit with the meta-christ clones.

This is the issue with making afterlives and eternal damnation canon, anything that's NOT aligned with giga-satan raping your ass for infinite years of infinite suffering automatically becomes justified.

>>98624004
>If they were honest and understood the situation they wouldn't be trying to be a commercial franchise to begin with because the "MODERN AUDIENCE" doesn't buy shit or play games.
Hit the nail on the head. The best thing to do in this situation is to say absolutely nothing and just make the damn game and let your players decide who they want to play with. If you do shit like publicly announce "If you're a nazi, you had better not buy this game because we hate you and we hate everything you stand for and if we could, we'd kill you and burn your house down because we hate nazi scum SOOOOO much" then you have no right to complain that "my game has become a culture war battlefield!" Because you're the one who invited "the culture war" in by making your work an explicitly politically charged piece, so you'll be criticized for your politics.

But they won't, because leftards are dishonest, and when they say "I'm tired of culture war shit," what they mean is "I'm tired of getting pushback for my opinions."

>>98624127
Yeah its dumb because any genuine nazi isn't going to be playing any game anymore than a genuine woke neoliberal or a commie. Those people are ideologically committed to a cause and aren't going to commit time and money to a hobby game. The people that do are hobbyists and while they may have different ideological alignments they are hobbyists first or else they wouldn't be into this shit in the first place.

>>98621828
> Imagine if Trench Crusade was made by the kids in your class who sold doodles of Disney characters with penises, instead of skilled artists with singular visions
Ok, I have. It looks like shit now, and sucks. Why did you ask me to imagine this?

The right truly can't art lmao.

>>98624185
> to be considered an actual Nazi you must spend 24 hours a day dedicated to your cause

> to be considered an actual leftist you must just disagree with me once on /pol about whether women should be rape incubators and Jewish Overlords are importing Muslims to undermine society

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>>98624231
How are Flash Gitz right wing anyways? And it doesn't really matter even if they are as all have the right to express what they wish to.
Including making their own goofy Warhammer 40k parody in good fun.
>can't art
They aren't using AI slop. They aren't doing Voice of Fire shit or Banana taped to walls or a pile of trash or "modern art" grifting.

>>98621828
Trench Crusade has 20,000 backers, a groundswell of support that indicates a new audience for the game. It got there by being basically its own thing.

Meanwhile, Space King is sitting at under 10,000 people, which is largely a bunch of warhammer hangovers whaling out over a series that ACTUALLY hates them. Because let's be clear - Space king is mocking you for liking warhammer, and since you're fucking stupid, you're gleefully handing over money to people who FUCKING HATE YOU.

>>98622221
Glad to know you're one of the 18 people in the world that play it.

>>98624313
This is such a delusional stance I'm going to assume you're esl and don't understand what you're saying.

>>98624285
Yes. Primarily ideologically motivated people dedicate moat of their time to ideologically motivated activities. These do not tend to be spending money and time on a hobby.

>>98624004
>TC is a loser by virtue of trying to gatekeep the majority of people interested in the subject matter out of their game
I mean if TC is bluit around insulting an entire religion , it makes sense they want to prenevly gatekept .

and is also why I am interesting in the nonsense they will eventually right.
imagine 40k but the emperor of man and all the other factions are real , its a trainreck in waiting.

>>98624365
>half the backers same money
he's entirely correct, space tards are whales

>>98624071
>even the Neon Genesis Evangelion shit with the meta-christ clones.
I mean desu , doesn't that just seem like something satan would do?

like trying to co-opt crist for some very wierd sick joke , specifically.
I guess you could argue is more so a naive desperete method to end the situation , but their is still something wierd about it.

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>>98624394
this is the part where the creators being retarded atheists with no actual interest in theology causes them issues, since Catholics already believe that during Communion that transubstantiation occurs and the communion wine and wafers literally become the actual flesh and blood of christ, not merely symbolic. If actual catholics were presented with the chance to clone the flesh and blood of christ to make super soldiers who could fight against ACTUAL REAL DEMONS FROM HELL with the backing of actual Angels and God, they wouldn't really feel that conflicted about it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation

t. baptised catholic and went to sunday school every week growing up. It's the same way a lot of dumb edgelords (including some trench crusade shit) think an inverted cross is some edgy satanic symbol when that's literally Saint Peter's cross who demanded he be crucified upside-down because he felt unworthy of dying in the exact same way as Jesus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_Saint_Peter

>>98624394
like I feel like you are making some wierd metaphysical comitments to asume you could do anything to destroy the forces of hell , but part of the problem with the forces of hell is that they do want to get you to their level , they want you to also torture everyone forever so that they can be fine with the fact they are the actual forces of hell.
I would still be fine with the orphan chiper , both as the orphan and as the adult running the chiper , but I won't be happy about it you know?

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>>98624327
>Glad to know you're one of the 18 people in the world that play it.
I don't think I ever will play it because the LGS playing scene is dead and people seem to only want the official models for social media pictures to be made.

At best it is probably gonna be a "weird war occult army" for some other alternative game(s) instead. So I'm not really too keen on making direct proxies to the Trench Crusade monsters if that makes sense. Just human troopers with guns.

I visited the Trench Crusade general the OP is an AI generated image, the thread question is asking about alternative wargames and the first post is a few suggestions:
>Xenos Rampant
>OPR
>Forbidden Psalm
I wonder if that general is just "pity bumped" by /awg/ or /40kg/ anons to keep Trench Crusade anons away from their generals if that makes sense.
As for the activity, that to me seems to be mostly anons having their vengeance on the community for them gloating about their janny bias that worked their favor before the Sharty hack. Some TC fanboys think the jannies are in on it or were oblivious to the bias they once benefitted from.
I backed the kickstarter and seeing what happened made me lose faith in Trench Crusade. I'm in the process of selling my Kickstarter rulebook. I don't see myself as alone in this attitude.

>>98624424
I don't disagree , specially with how occultish the church can be , that people might be fine using the flesh of jesus in a wierd scientific way for super soldiers.

but the clones of jesus aren't just seen as people blessed or with a porpuse , but still people.

don't they see the clone jesus as actual jesus , which is the main problem.

but also that even if they feel conflicted about it even if they should be conflicted about it , I mean I am unsure if a lot of the stuff they are doing is that unresenable if they are fighting hell itself trying to eat humanity.
like ww1 and ww2 were horrible from a cristian perspective , but to see that as grimdark seems to be missing the point , in a wierd sense we humans alwaya make fucked up jesus clones.

>>98624312
LMAO you couldn't possibly be more disingenuous than trying to claim "the right don't make AI slop"

They are the sole proponents of it. Their politicians are the ones frantically trying to convince you that you do want a datacentre in your neighborhood, actually. It's all serving chuds and tech libertarians. Do you ever check in with the real world?

>>98621863
Trench Crusade thought they were in a position to "You will not be missed" when they were an inch off the launchpad. What a hilarious and almost immediate failure that followed. All /tg/ is a White chud hobby, if you antagonize White chuds, your game will shit itself and die. Simple as.

>>98621828
Flashgitz does hate its potential fanbase, they made whole videos shitting on alternate wargames. fuck them. enjoy being a pay piggy for culture war slop ig but I'm not giving them a cent.

>>98624313
LOL your seething is like sweet ambrosia.

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>>98624451
>don't they see the clone jesus as actual jesus
no, since Catholics are trinitarian like most christians besides moromons and jehovah's witnesses, and thus believe the Father/Son/Holy Spirit are all part of the Holy Trinity, a meta-christ is not YHWH himself and is neither omnipotent or omniscient unlike God or Jesus.
You could pretty easily argue they're essentially mass-produced martyred saints, and while they're certainly distasteful and not something you'd ever condone outside of a literal holy war against the actual forces of hell, considering they're objectively on the side of actual angels and actual God there's not that much reason to freak out about them. There's plenty of other historical and biblical martyrs who've had bloody and tragic endings, once Hell is defeated and the gateway to it sealed I imagine all the meta-christs would be canonized as saints and martyrs.

Like, meta-christs are icky, but is it any ickier than God in his omnipotence and omniscience allowing the martyrdom of John the Baptist to be publicly beheaded and his head displayed on a platter and presented to guests at a banquet? At least the meta-christs get to go out fighting.

>>98624482
as to the ethics of cloning, considering meta-christs demonstrably have blessed blood and actual holy powers and are condoned by the actual-angels fighting alongside humanity, it's pretty easy to argue they're at least kosher as a temporary measure, and the Bible itself has instances of "cloning" in shit like Eve being literally made out of Adam's rib by God in the garden of Eden. One of Jesus's most famous miracles is feeding 5,000 people with five loaves of bread and two fish as well. With these examples and the Eucharist you can definitely squint your eyes and say it's probably fine.

When the opponent is objectively and openly ontologically evil and trying to genuinely damn the souls of the entire human race for eternity to torture them forever to spite God and his creations, which is the case in Trench Crusade, pretty much any measure is on the table.

>>98624482
I think metacrists are more so icky less from the perspective of themseleves because they are just doing their best , and more so from the perspective of trying to industrialise saints.

but I mean , I do agree that the non hell factions have the moral highground , and part of the reason people are doing this type of stuff is stricktly out of driving out hell, itself.

its more so that using hell as a comparative moral frame is weak on my opinion , you should always dream of rising above in moral nature.

althought part of the problem is also just on the fact that this is all happening so to make some interesting lore or to make a cool figure in a traditional game , so its difficult to tell how well faith meta crits are in universe.
if I met a meta crist in real life , I would problably be more sympathethic.


is just , if this is how the lore is starting and we know this is writen by a type of atheist that really can't understand anything different than bill nye , I wonder what kind of cosmic bullshit would the writers come up with

>>98624491
>When the opponent is objectively and openly ontologically evil and trying to genuinely damn the souls of the entire human race for eternity to torture them forever to spite God and his creations, which is the case in Trench Crusade, pretty much any measure is on the table.
yea but under that logic does it matter if anything that you are doing is moral or immoral , their is a limit to what most people can do immorally and if you are trying to reach transendental levels of evil , then you are problably just on satans club then.

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>>98624461
>you couldn't possibly be more disingenuous than trying to claim "the right don't make AI slop"
I did mess up and in the "They aren't using AI slop." I should have said Flashgitz aren't using AI slop. Maybe they are now but I haven't checked.
Anyways how are Flash Gitz right wing? It seems like just shock value stuff like how Heavy Metal bands had Satanic imagery for shock value to me.

>As for the AI stuff that is leaking into the miniature hobby.
I am pointing out that if artists had their chance to use the argument that art takes talent, they lost it. The talented ones should have been doing shit at the level of anti-slop movements to tear down the talentless grifters splattering paint on canvas to sell millions but didn't. If they did then I'll take an L and accept being wrong.

Pic related supposedly sold for over 10 million, and I wouldn't be surprised if "modern artists" are wondering if they put it upside down. They're the most pretentious shits you can ever imagine. I could walk in with a pedestal place it somewhere, shit on it with my uncut chode and my hairy balls in full view and people would praise me or even take pictures instead of escorting out.
The museum would probably defend me too if I said it was all performance art and I'm gay or 0.01 of the most popular minority group to defend.

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>>98624505
I think this thread has already put more thought into the idea than the developers have, honestly. The whole thing started with Mike Franchina just drawing shit he thought was cool and most of it was retrofitted into the hastily made setting Tuomas shat out. They still don't have any actual answer to questions like "If the Christian God is real and colonization of the Americas never happened, what is the current state of North and South America?" because they're terrified of being accused of various -isms. We know more about the Church's fucking space program than we do the state of 2/7 continents.
>>98624519
If the Trench Pilgrims et al start doing stuff that's too immoral, God will just hard reset flood the earth/trigger the end times/go full Sodom and Gommoragh and wipe the slate clean to start again, so I do think it's important to contextualize whether shit like the meta-christs is merely distasteful and unethical vs being genuinely evil in a comparable way to the forces of hell. In trench crusade lore the reason angels haven't just curbstomped the forces of hell single handedly is that when they get involved it's essentially like a nuclear weapon going off and too much would destroy the earth, the """"loophole""""" hell uses is that it's a portal/gateway to hell and no actual devils have ever set foot on Earth itself, they just influence and corrupt humans without ever stepping foot outside.

>Catholics would actually be willing to do all of this! It isn’t even that much of a stretch!
Yes, lol, lmao. That’s the trick to it, that’s what makes it so compelling despite being so stupid and excessive.

>Space King
>Not satire
What the fuck am I reading? Who would even try to say that?

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>>98621828
>Ex Warhammer devs and game artists from when Warhammer was good, making a sincere effort at a setting and company in something they visibly care about.
>I am supposed to hate this, because they're 'money-greedy backstabbers'.

>Internet youtube cartoonists who's best feature is maintaining Newgrounds edgy humour into 2026, who're shamelessly riding the cheap product market because they found something that sells.
>I am supposed to like this and spend my money because it 'owns the libs/corporates/feminists'.

God, you people deserve to have your money taken away from you.

>>98624741
>maintaining Newgrounds edgy humour into 2026
Don’t act like that isn’t impressive though.

>>98624741
I think you are retarded. See >>98624004
>>98624127 >>98624185 >>98624368 Is the reason people rightfully shit on TC. It desired the shitpile that is the culture war, so it got the shitpile that is the culture war.
Space King is a stupid silly cartoon that isn't getting the same hate specifically because it isn't courting the psychopaths that believe "everything is political." Seriously, just because something can be political, doesn't mean it has to be political.

>>98622162
It's more a good example of how misinformation can grow so prevalent, especially in the communities who voluntarily call themselves chuds, when you don't actively get on that.
>Pretty much everything ideal you could want in a small startup.
>Actual policy (not the one people claim about them) of 'ignore culture war stuff, we're here to make games'. Plus some minor remarks on social media from a literal ESL.
>One youtuber with a big chud following gets mildly triggered when he's not able to get in on the money and kicked off a discord server for being a /pol/fag and now we're here.

Meanwhile.
>Two guys make edgy parody yt cartoon, that draws a lot of the warhammer audience that miss the gratuitous violence.
>Correctly identify that there's room to push product via a literal 'we're not like those other people who just want your money. Give us your money instead to help own them'.
>Uses adds and culture war to shill a much less professionally made product to this population, who buys it.

The real lessons to take away from this is that you can't advertise like it's the 2000's anymore, with minimal adds, small group intrigue and keeping sociopolitics out of it. You have to bear in mind the small vocal population of toxic polfags who'll demand for virtue signaling of either lefty or righty orientations, who will throw a big melty if they're ignored, and will spend years trying to twist the narrative and sink things because they're just that bored and spiteful.

Personally, I don't mind though. I've enjoyed Space King (though the quality has gone down each ep imo), and the thought of obsessively contrarian, self-styled 'anti-consoomerits' being willing paypiggies for dudes who know how to push their buttons brings me pleasure.
Also 4chan being what it is, is probably the hotbed for trying to insist TC isn't popular.

>>98622253
He's right tho, outside calling TC leftist (I'd argue they're more agnostic).

>>98622215
>bait and switch 3d models
>gaslight and outright lie
get fucked you stupid faggot, I hate games workshop too

>>98624790
It's cool to see, but not impressive to the same extent.
Still, I enjoy it.

>>98624813
>See; all these short wildly inaccurate posts saying things.

I have a twelve inch penis and three sports cars. I wrote it on /tg/ so it must be true.

Anon, Flashgitz literally did a 'support us to own big corporations' shill at the end of one of their episodes.
Meanwhile, you got banned from the TC discord for ANY kind of off topic conversation, until they added the off topic channel.

I was there for both. You spouting misinformation doesn't work, when it's to a primary source.

But go spend another 200 dollars on a company who's totally not selling it just to milk you of money.
You'll totally own me, and all the fantasy figures in your head if you do.

>>98624312
>How are Flash Gitz right wing anyways? And it doesn't really matter even if they are as all have the right to express what they wish to.

Given the amount of complaining about TC on here that's solely boiled down to 'we imagine the devs express leftist leaning political beliefs', I wish to express a fat stinky turd into your mouth.

>>98622091
>we are going to use political power to force businesses to go against their customers
not the gotcha you think it is
I know what you are actually claiming is that they are somehow sucking up to trump, which is even stupider, donald trump doesn't know what a fucking space king is

>>98624071
Say, how'd hell get loose on earth anyway?

>>98624313
Don and Tom are 40k casuals who thought the setting was cool when they were kids but now look at it as the dumb, shallow slop that it mostly is (see their space marine chapter videos). They don't hate 40k, and neither are they diehard truefans showing GW how it should be done. They're animation nerds who gained a following making edgy 2000s webcomic-style videos and have leaned into that with a kids cartoon parody (with gore and tits). The merch is a logical next step. The show is very expensive to make.

>>98621828
Arch had a vid celebrating it.
>People who supported that 'other game' should be very ashamed right now don't they...
Fucker seems not want to remember he was hyping TC before it was revealed what their ideology really was.

>>98621863
I don't know much about either but the second take is the correct one. Let people have fun.
Why make a game called "Trench Crusade" if people larping as crusaders twistes your nipples?

The first episode was adequate but the rest has just been boring as hell.

>>98625224
Parody has its limits, and it can get stale pretty quickly. Unless they actually manage to do their own thing with a genuinely original plot that makes people interested, it’s just going to become more and more boring.

>>98622074
Ya do realise project morning star creators are extremely woke yes? They just managed to keep their political dicks in their pants for the most part now but as soon as their franchise takes off they will no longer hide it.

>>98622091
People already want a harder drug than lord cheeto who cucked out to foreign interests, so probably not. If anything chud pandering will get mainstream for a while but then will feel really old and corporatized then things might balance out to apolitical again, hopefully. I say this as a literal Nazi that political pandering is best left out of the /tg/ sphere on both sides. I would rather political shitflinging just stay out of escapism and people not hamfist political messaging in them for either side to begin with

>>98625102
The evil chud crusaders let them out while peaceful muslim folx tried to stop it

>>98624741
The only thing TC devs were sincere about is their "you will not be missed"
anything else they've done is a fucking grift that gets worse the more you look into it

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>>98624818
Ah yes the apolitical trench crusade.

>>98622215
TC specifically marketed itself as cool and about tradcaths fighting the hordes of hell, which appealed to a lot on the modern right, which is mostly made up of people whom would have been apolitical/centrist 15 years ago, as it was a simple no holds barred non political good vs evil setting with cool art. Then TC rugpulled and in doing so shat the bed.

>>98625154
This is the thing the the lefty ideologues just conveniently ignore

They like to pretend that right wing culture warriors are just smearing TC for no good reason. But in reality TC fired all of the first shots, wilffullingy antagonising anyone they considered "the chuds" every chance they got in order to fulfill their commie fantasy of owning the chuds. Their ideology just made them blind to the fact those very same people they consider chuds are basically just majority normal everyday people refusing to bow to retarded wokism and make up 90% of their potential customer base.
>They cry out in pain as they strike you
Nobody was dogging on Trench crusade before this happened.

Then again, if that was all, their reputation wouldn't have been so destroyed as it is now. Ultimately it was the kickstarter controversies with bad quality that put the nails in their coffin.

They're just retarded bullies and scammers who get what they deserve. Now they realise they fucked the future growth of their own company and see the lack of sales for Carcass front I predict they're gonna dip out.

>>98622215
>make game about overthetop cool looking tradcath crusaders epicly fighting the literal evil forces of hell
>NOOOOOOO WE NEVER WANTED TO PANDER CHUDDIES
Yeah, nah. They simply changed their position cause they couldn't containt their political autism. That or they are incredibly stupid.

>>98622476
because Islam is ontologically evil

>>98624741
Putting all politics aside, Trench Crusade loses a lot of appeal because it tries so hard to out-grimdark 40k but without having its tongue in its cheek like 40k does. The taking itself too seriously and trying too hard to be over the top grimdark was 40k's problem circa 5th edition (the Ward Era) and it took a long time to pull itself out.

Space King is a balls-out parody. It's telling you up front, "We're fans of 40k and are going to poke some fun at it."
You're right that Flashgitz are still using Newgrounds style humor and not all their jokes land. Some are pretty fucking cringe. But it's just the fact that they're not trying to hide what they are or be ashamed of their influence that is why 40k fans like it. Yes, they're making fun of 40k, but it's in the fond ribbing kind of way. What Galaxy Quest is to Star Trek.

In short, TC tried to take the grimdarkest parts of 40k and be even grimdarker. Space King is taking the silliest parts of 40k and making them sillier.

>>98621828
trench crusade always has been part of the 28 hipster community that think dunking victrix minis in mud effects is the peak of miniature wargaming. They never asked for the chud audience

>>98625397
>and it took a long time to pull itself out.
Bro, it never pulled itself out.
If anything it got worse where on the surface they have grimdark but dig an inch underneath and it is just pure character drama marvel shit where only like 2 characters per faction are allowed to do anything at any one time.
40k as a setting never recovered from the damage HH did to it. I think it singlehandedly introduced most of the problems that would follow it onward. The retcons, bad storytelling, and marine wank from 5th onward didn't help either, but a lot of those problems had their origin in HH

>>98624526
They wouldn't praise you because you're not the part of the in-group.

Trench Crusade is shit because it attracts trannies and incels like flies.

>>98625102
A religious christian knightly order opened rifts to hell some 80 years before said order was actually founded

I have still to this day not once heard what makes trench crusade an interesting game to play. Same problem as most of the 28-community games. It's vibes and maybe if you're lucky one or two gimmicks

>>98625400
>make battle comic about cool looking super heroes punching each other
>NOOOOO WE NEVER WANTED THE CAPESHIT AUDIENCE
Either dihonest or retarded. Pick they one you like the most.

>>98624947
Sooooooo...you don't actually have an argument, just your impotent, unregulated emotions?

>>98625514
more like someone writes a "deconstructive" comic book to show how smart they are for realizing tropes exist and a bunch of people expecting it to be completely straight forward normal comic shit show up and act offended because it's not something it never claimed to be

>>98624947
>Given the amount of complaining about TC on here that's solely boiled down to
>'we imagine the devs express leftist leaning political beliefs'
>imagine
They explicitly expressed left leaning beliefs.
>I wish to express a fat stinky turd into your mouth.
Your entire post isn't the epic own moment you think it is. This is a self sabotage bad look for you. This is so terrible I want to believe you're a /pol/anon out here trying to act like a bad example of those who support Trench Crusade.

Now how is Flash Gitz right wing? I only got the vibe that they're just being edgy in a counter cultural way heavy metal bands added satanic imagery for shock value.

>>98625397
>TC tries to take 40k and make it grimdarker.

The lore and setting wasn't even made by a 40k guy though. Mike's an MTG artist. The foundations of the setting are literally Artstation notes.

It's an entirely separate thing, and much more black metal than grimdark plus slapstick.
Again, not to everyone's tastes, which is fine. Arguably a good thing, given the state of nu-40k losing its soul.

But going 'x is bad because it's not like y' and 'x should be compared to y because it's also like y' is just disingenuous.
There's a difference between 'low quality shit' and 'good quality but not to personal taste'. But people seem to forget that, or feel the need to find some grander reason for not getting into it than 'eh, it's not my cup of tea'.

I'd honestly respect that. I like TC but I wouldn't introduce it to my work friends because it doesn't pull punches.
But I've seen fags on here spend the last three years trying to find culture war reasons, or sociopolitical justifications for why weird WW1 tabletop game is acktually ebil, instead of just... not playing it.

>>98625444
Assuming you're sincere.
>Nice rules that make games quick but decently interesting.
>Factions that feel unique in mechanics, while also being balanced for single games and campaigns.
>A horror setting that doesn't soften the horror with 'lmao xd funnies' humour at the last second.
>Setting straddles the balance between detailed and extensive, and not overly autistic.
>Models are (apparently, I don't own any) very high quality, but you also don't need them because the rules are free online and the TC team legally cannot forbid you from using your own mini's.

>>98625554
>make "deconstructive" comic book that containt every super hero trope capeshitters love
>NOOOOO IT NOT SUPPOSED TO PANDER TO CAPESHITTERS
So the retarded one. Got it.

>>98625323
If they have magazines that already showed them as progressives why would anybody have thought them a savior from woke, sounds like a falseflag to me, make the chuds out to be tricked idiots

>>98625570
>Now how is Flash Gitz right wing? I only got the vibe that they're just being edgy in a counter cultural way heavy metal bands added satanic imagery for shock value.
Not him but the stuff Hatemonger says is stuff you would only reference if you were pretty familiar with the statistics and references to begin with and find them funny/true. Most Lefties are too puritan to even reference that shit because they believe platforming it at all is a grave sin, even if just for a joke.

It doesn't help that being what was a moderate 20 years ago is being hard core right in the modern mainstream now. Part of the appeal of Space King is them recognizing how cucked, faggoty, and effeminate modern media is and they repeatedly say and show that Space King is supposed to be the opposite.

I hope they are chuds if only because media in general needs actual dissenting opinions and different approaches at shows in general. Everyone having the same opinions and views leads to everything having the same approach to making shows, same storylines, story beats, jokes, art, and themes.

>>98625591
Hatemonger does indeed say stuff that unless you're familiar with alt-right discourse you wouldn't get it.
But still a clear parody nevertheless even if the writers happen to be conservatives. For some weird reason, many alt-rightoids can into into self parody while the ones on the left can't.

>>98625570
NTA but.
>They explicitly expressed left leaning beliefs.
Where?

All I've seen from them is disapproval of culture war ranting and being immature about the hobby/life. It's not like people got banned from the discord just for being vocally right wing.

Is >>98625323, a reddit post by some literal random with the username conveniently removed, the 'explicit expression'? Because that's just some redditor tranny saying shit on the internet.

>>98625606
>Hatemonger does indeed say stuff that unless you're familiar with alt-right discourse you wouldn't get it.
When I was down in the dumps in my earliest 20s I was saying "own the libs" a lot as an "ironic self mockery where i'm the self depreciating punchline" sort of thing. Out of context it will look like I'm being serious.
Maybe that's what Hatemonger is but I didn't watch Flashgitz that much. To me it is a balloon some people enjoy and I'm not gonna pop it.
Same goes for Hazbin Hotel. What I respect out of Hazbin Hotel and Flashgitz is that their creators are making their own stuff instead of trying to subvert and kill the magic of what made something preexisting good if that makes sense.
>For some weird reason, many alt-rightoids can into into self parody while the ones on the left can't.
That's the biggest advantage the right wing side and "perceived chuds" (people who are left wing but tired of the extremist side giving 2nd hand humiliation) have over modern left in entertainment media.
>alt-rightoids
That doesn't work in the way you think it do. The "oid" part came from the "femoid" insult that got "right' slapped on it just validate the chud belief that "the left can't meme." It is unfortunate that this took off and I hate it.

>>98625606
>alt-right
Damn, I didn't realize people still used that term.
It's weird seeing it again, it's like looking at a living breathing dinosaur.

Anyway, Fascists, Nazis, and third positionists in general can do self parody because they've spent their entire modern existence on the fringes and in the underground outside of the mainstream and so have genuine grassroots and understanding of the memes about themselves and their own positions, as well as some flaws and what normalfags think of them. Lefties got told they were right their entire life for being moral hedonists and can't handle anything implying otherwise, in addition to being incredibly complacent and arrogant about their beliefs and weirdly puritan about them too.

>>98625436
>biggest give-away that Tuomas literally doesn't know anything.

Trench Crusade was supposed to divert from real history right after Jerusalem got captured. These dumb retards actually thought the Templars captured it and in their hubris forgot to fact check themselves and then retroactively said: oh yeh we made them templars because its cooler

No, you made them Templars because your ignoramusses fuckheads thought the Templars captured jerusalem.

This theory is then also completely validated by all the other historically questonable things Tuomas has claimed as historical fact in various podcasts. He's literally a dunning-kruger brainlet larping as a history connoiseur

>>98625609
>>98625570 (here)
You got me good with pointing out the screenshot was actually just some random redditor. I thought it was official. That's a big L on my part.
>Where?
I think Tuomas has expressed left leaning beliefs in condoning the booting of the edgy right leaners from Trench Crusade and had the official Trench Crusade discord say existence for some isn't political. Which I found weird because many internet activists say existence is political but whatever.
Now with that being said. It is easy to know if someone is right wing online when they express their stuff.
It is harder when it is left leaning expression because despite what is going on, social media will always be dominantly left wing so those who express it may just be doing lip service and not genuine about it. Just grifting it. So even "explicit expression" isn't confirmation. That might be why left leaners on social media especially in entertainment spheres try so hard that it looks fake and forced.

But you still got me good with your post.
Well played.

>>98625617
>>98625619
Being ages since I visited /pol/, I left that place when Trump won for the first time, so my terms are not updated. And I've seen here the "oid" term attached to many things besides females, so I assume it has lost it's original use/meaning and is not much different than ending words with fag.

>>98625609
>"if I close my eyes you can't convince me I'm wrong"

Vibes

>>98625637
I took a 1-2 year long break after Trump as well, but I came back after I realized he was just sitting on his hands and was being just another neocon and nothing was actually improving. He also cucked out on 99% of the stuff he said he was going to do and put all his effort into appeasing Israel and the current system. At least people are getting more extreme now, maybe something will actually happen for the better for once. Honestly Trump would have been more useful politically for the average person if he actually got assassinated while he was running since he would have been a real catalyst for radicalization instead of yet another gatekeeper who crushes anyone more extreme than him

>>98625636
>social media will always be dominantly left wing
Not necessarily. It will always learn towards whatever side pumps the most money into influencing it. The media machine spends a great deal of money trying to keep the current narrative of egalitarianism at all costs, but there is no rule saying it has to be that way

>>98625651
I don't think that was what he was trying to do, anon.
I hope this mentality isn't common.
>>98625637
>And I've seen here the "oid" term attached to many things besides females
Well yeah. That's why "rightoid" is an example of bad co-opting that sadly took off and validated chud beliefs.
I don't like it.

>>98625323
>writing "folks" rather than "folx"
cryptochud confirmed

>>98625709
>cryptochud confirmed
First time hearing the term "cryptochud" is this a real term or meme phrase? How damning is it in "those spaces" if one is accused of being one regardless of whether it is true or not?

>>98625688
Considering it's a despective term that comes from "negroid" I fully accept leftists embracing it

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>>98625609
>>98625688
Arch didn't start throwing punches, TC did. They literally showed arch video thumbnail as an example of an "extremist influencer" trying to bring down TC, despite everything he said about TC up to that point was in good faith with mild optimism. Frankly he was completely in the right going autistic rage on them after this.

TC publically endorsing the vile moderating behaviour of 28Mag

Rules of TC Discord, biggest fucking hypocrits in existance but to be expected from these sorts of people.

Ofcourse the TC glazers will hide behind the fact that its a "non-official server" completely overlooking Tuomas and his dev gang send thousands of messages there, endorsed it as the defacto official server and promoting there, and only recently started distancing themselves.

They may not have been stupid enough to explicitly express their left wing beliefs, but they are more than happy to let the narratives of "kicking out the fascist" run rampant and the only people they work with are other avowed leftists, including the LGBTQ endorsing Monk they got translating latin for them.

Spess kangz is what marinefags want from GW, because even now GW's marinewank is not enough for these secondaries.

>>98621863
But it does. They just hate people they don't like are allowed to play with the same toys.
But still. How scorned of lovers these people are? "You will miss me! See how much happier I'm with this other product? I do not care about you, I just think about you every day!"

>>98625269
All you have to do is not act like a cunt until you're too big to fail.
I don't know why some people just can't keep their stupid political views off the internet at least until they make it.

>>98624741
>making a sincere effort
doubt.jpg

>>98625323
>LOOK AT HE METACHRISTS

I enjoy that they made a game about God and Hell being real. With a helpful God and choir of angels as hell churns out rape egg monsters and soul stealing shyster demons. Then try to paint the God side, where he cant come down or he'll unmake Creation by his mere presence, as morally grey since he inspires and allows the use of his blood and flesh, that bends the rules to further the cause of Faithful humans.

It's like they dont understand the most basic tenet that God sacrificed his own son to be ultimate blood sacrifice.

They dont even understand their own setting

>>98625886
>No real world political topics
>No political propaganda

Unless it the stuff we personally agree with, so we just label that as "not political" so we can have our cake and eat it too. Enjoy promoting and talking about your "totally not political" LGBTQ ideology over here!

If you don't see the double standards you must be blind

>>98622215
I would presume the fuck up with compatible with trench crusade, and the GW level Copyright strikes was indicative of them flying too close to the son.
Bitch you don't even have your plastic sets in stores the fuck are you doing trying to copyright german ww1 guys with medieval helmets.
But what the fuck do you expect from a company headed by a guy who worked for EA and Obisoft
You people are subhuman animals l

>>98626045
Unfathomably based.

>>98626045
Reddit is that way friend and i think itd more your speed.

>>98626045
>LGTBQ ideology is a political topic
>Ermh no axzually gay people have always existed?

Not even remotely the debunk you think it is. Might suggest you hone your debating skills on other places than reddit sometimes.

>>98626045
>Gay and trans people have existed throughout human history, and will continue to do so. This is not a political statement.
Except when you make it a political statement, make and raise flags proclaiming your political movement, create an entire ideology based around being gay/trans, align being gay/trans with another political movement, declare that anyone whom does not follow your ideology is wrong and evil and should not be allowed to have a voice or even a job, hound and harass anyone whom does not bend the knee, threaten those that still remain unbowed with violence,... need I go on?

I have gay friends, I have an mtf friend. I have a friend who is bi. They don't make bring themselves political, they are regular normal people. They also do not like the rainbow cult as its done nothing for them but curdle public opinion against them.

>>98626091
He's one of those retards who thinks every gay person is inextricably linked to the LGBTQ movement, not realizing many gay people fucking despise it and see the trans as ruining any social progress they made. They've co-opted the rainbow flag and keep adding new letters and shit to it.

>>98625269
Woke doesn't mean assholes or retards.

>>98626161
No I mean they're actually unironic woke progressives. Main founder is a hollywood nepo baby who lost his shit when trump got elected

>>98626163
You say a lot without actually saying anything
Bunch of self congratulating sophistry

>>98625269
They don't keep it in their pants. The whole thing is juvenile CAPITALISM BAD. Not sure how anyone can find their views surprising.

>>98626163
M'nigga, der chuddenwaffe did not make you adopt a flag, ally yourself with extremist left wing groups, or glue yourself to communism, that was all your doing, as we're the campaigns of harassment and violence against anyone who didn't bend the knee. People like were happy to live and let live until the rainbow cult declared us kulaks and counter revolutionaries in need of queerection.

>>98626254
*people like me

>>98626045
>gay and trans people have existed throughout human history
Lmao. Faggotry is well documented but transgenderism was rightly classified as a mental illness. If gender roles are social constructs how the fuck can it be “biological” that a man wants to wear a skirt and suck BBC? It’s porn induced autogynephilia, often exacerbated by autism. But the jews love it because it helps population control.

>>98624818
>make cool space warrior setting
>people who like cool space warrior setting show up excited about your new setting
>garner a large excited audience
>everyone hyped about cool space warrior setting
>turn around and tell everyone who likes the cool space warrior stuff that you actually hate them and the setting is actually about how cool space warriors are actually stupid and lame and fuck you
>retards are shocked and surprised when all of the cool space warrior fans leave and are burned by the whole experience and wish the setting nothing but malice
This is you idiot

>>98624462
This. I don't get why this is so hard to understand. It's an entire hobby dominated by autistic White men, of course a massive chunk of them are gonna be chuds, or chud-adjacent. For some reason this obvious reality is the most obscured thing ever for any company running a TT game

There are no Aeldari in Trench Crusade; therefore, I couldn't care less about it or their chuds wars. Everything gets simple when you are not an Imperium fag.

>>98623741
Bro Hitler was one of Christianity's biggest supporters lmao. We have AI voice translated speeches of his now, it's not even remotely obscured
>but muh occultism
Nigger I'm a die hard Christian and I think some occultism is a lil neato here and there as a treat. Fuck outta here you faggot lmao

>>98626283
Fun fact: Homosexuality was inofficially tolerated by the nazis until the failed Röhm coup demonstrated that political homosexuality was inevitable and always against the interest of wider society. Political gays got all the other gays killed explicidly because they tried to push for a communist military junta run exclusively by gays.

Again: Even the fucking nazis were willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and you still tried to fuck over society for selfish reasons with Himmler breathing down your neck.

This is not a unique occurance BTW. This is the exact same behaviour we see throughout history with cases like the treason of thebe against the greeks, the treason of egoballus against rome or the treason of the "eunuchs" against the emperor of china.

>>98623942
Athiests just aren't that creative when talking about religion. All y'all can think of is reductive down to just "well, heh, what if all of this was actually just dumb and pointless heh. Bet you never thought of THAT christcucks heh" as if thats a riveting creative point at all

>>98622303
>went back
Kek. None of these tourist supremes were part of the hobby in the first place.

>>98624468
I disagree but also to be fair to them, not all of their hate against other ttgs was valid. Like for BT for example then didn't think it was that deep, to which all the BT fans in the comments section laughed at them. Iirc to they thought bolt action was cool just not really their style

>>98626045
>Gay and trans people have existed throughout human history, and will continue to do so. This is not a political statement.
That is a political statement and a statement about your stance on those politics.

>invade a community because you can't do anything by yourself
>try to make your own thing to prove that you're more than a parasite
>it's garbage
>>98621863
The chuds were there before you and will be there long after you are gone. You have never loved or cared about anything in your entire life and you will never create anything of value in your entire life. Space King is for tedious redditors that know absolutely nothing about 40k, which is more your street, tourist.
>>98626459
You will never be a real woman.

>>98626538
>gaggot
Look at you, so mad that you can't even say faggot.

The thing I refuse to ever let anyone forget about this board is that it's just more of this. It's so completely infested with these mutant faggots that every consensus drawn about any topic from any game is completely manufactured to make you give up on protecting what they are trying to take from you. The performative retard pessimism, the revisionism (40k was always bad, roleplaying is cringe, narrative doesn't matter, the horus heresy is slop lore you don't have to read etc. etc.) and the subtle, then slowly more and more explicit, apologetics for woke culture disguised as hand-wringing people for caring "too much" about getting rid of it whatever the fuck that means. It's all fake. Every single opinion you see here, the opposite is true every single time. That's all it is.

>>98626549
>u-u a t-tranny
Oh no, the potential wargamer is upset.
Why don't you transition into someone who owns models?

Have we all done this before?
I'm getting hard deja vu right now
Did I have a dream this would happen?

>discussion mostly related to the game, and rightfully shitting on trench crusade
>suddenly veer into /pol/ bullshit
>reads back the posts to see where it started
>it's a left-wing faggot posting off topic shit
>again
Why does this happen every time. It's starting to make the people who blame /pol/ for posting off-topic shit look rather silly.
>>98626045
>>98626163
>>98626283

>>98626845
>phoneposting

kys

>>98627029
It's okay, just like always the janny will delete one side of the argument to make it look like it was the /pol/ side was the one who started being off topic

>>98626045
>Gay and trans people have existed throughout human history, and will continue to do so.
Existing is one thing.
Encouraging hedonism and non productive behavior officially as a government and society is another

>>98627153
Who is going to buy your stuff? Or do you expect the machines to do all the work for you once you've gotten rid of the human cattle? Then who will stop other guys from deciding you are not useful anymore until only one stands alone over countless mechanical slaves? Because one day even the migrant will stop existing.

>>98627256
Okay, janny. Whatever you say
Wouldn't want to talk back and get a deletion and ban, lol
Man, what a shit board /tg/ has become

>>98627256
[citation needed]

>>98627170
The goal is quite literally communism in the same vein as Alpha Complex from Paranioa RPG.

>>98626586
You're mixing a bunch of opinions from opposing crowds.
>the horus heresy is slop lore you don't have to read
Based true right-wing take from OG 40k fans
>apologetics for woke culture
Comes from newfag tourist trannies who like slop

Etc

>>98622605
So they spent the money on the tabletop game instead of taking it and running.
This doubly signals the game was a success.

I'm not sure why autists on this board can't understand that two things can be successful at the same time.

Man, there's an incredible amount of seething in this thread.
Shame I missed whatever was making you guys seethe.

>>98626313
Perhaps if you were less generally disgusting as a people, the people making things you like wouldn't hate you.

>>98626204
Capitalism IS pretty shit. It seems to be incredibly unstable, and all of the "good times" under it were when it was extremely socialized.

Frankly, capitalism and communism both don't work, and revert to monarchies and oligarchies within 50 years.

>>98624741
No one in this room is sincere.

>>98624741
>I am supposed to hate this, because they're 'money-greedy backstabbers'
and retards, only a retard would make a hyper grimdark game named x crusade to compete with 40k and be mad that templar "chuds" want to play the game.

>>98627762
No, all they need is to have basic principles.
A shocking concept for you, I know.

>>98627811
What fucking principles? The creators act like spastic retards when Arch tried to give genuine praise or they encounter anyone they consider "chud-shaped."
>>98627506
What imaginary strawman are you conjuring?

>>98624790
You wouldn't get it. They us to leave a discord. Us! Potential customers!
>t. man who was never going to buy anything

>>98624741
>I am supposed to hate this, because they're 'money-greedy backstabbers'.
Yes this is correct. A big kickstarter caused Tuomas to start singing a different song.
The proof is out there. Educate yourself or maintain your ignorance. The choice is yours.

>>98625617
No, what you guys don't get is you can just say things because they're funny and riffing on a present day issue without actually trying to make a point.

Not everything is trying to move the ball forward for some ideology. Something can just be funny. Believe it or not, people can actually even make fun of their own beliefs. A good example is the agartha memes.

>>98627811
they only need to sell a product and make a decent ruleset, there is no need for engaging or even acknowledging any cultural war bullshit. it is like making a ww2 game and not wanting people to play with germans.

>>98625958
This was always my issue, too. Despite really liking the aesthetic when it was first coming out, the theological and historical issues made me hesitate. The more that came out the better I felt about that decision.

Now that the dust has settled where did TrenchCrusade go wrong?

>>98624818
> Troon Crusade advocates calling ANY other product 'less professionally made'
They LITERALLY sold STLS with resin traps in them, so if printed, they would be a time bomb of when the model cracks and fucking toxic resin spills everywhere. The community VOLUNTEERED to correct their shit, they refused, and it took WEEKS for them to unfuck their own files, because they had some early supporter retard, who had NEVER done this level of work, design it. They then gave the responsibility of producing and sending resin models to, once again, another completely unqualified 'early supporter,' whose previous 'experience' was producing literal cat girl gooner models.
The fact that a Trron Crusade fag could EVER call another product 'less professionally made' is so fucking hypocritical it's hysterical. And that's before we even bother to much the rule book that got so delayed it was literally out of date months before it even shipped
Shut the fuck up, don't respond, you fucking lose.

>>98621828
I don't think this has do to do with politics, I thought TC started initially as a 3d printer game, where they would just sell you STLs, but then pulled the rug and started selling hard plastics without providing and option to buy STLs.

>>98628633
Yeah I think the politics are part of it, but that's not what's causing tc to trend toward failure

>>98628633
TC was also just always the most gay and lame of the alt games such as quar and turnip28 or even sludge. Its entire goal is being grossly edgey.

>>98627514
No system is perfect because we all are different and act/respond differently.
Capitalism with social protections is the best system we have figured out thus far

>>98628633
>I thought TC started initially as a 3d printer game
Its deeply fucked that it discarded the kitbash and conversion roots of
>take ww1, 2, perry knights monsters, whatever and make them look cool
for
>There has only ever been official Trench Crusade Product CONSUME
Its one of the most impressive sellouts I've seen in ages.

>>98621828
>blah blah blah culture war blah blah blah based
Who fucking cares

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>>98621828
$4,000,000 get, brothers!

>>98625770
TC basically had a group willing to put money down to support them only to have them spit in their face then are shocked people left and actively hate the group who shits on them, their religion, etc. Remember if this a game company that makes a group shitting over gay pride after acting like it would be pro gay or something you see everyone call it hateful, however look at TC and they still act they did nothing wrong.

>>98629744
PRAISE BE TO SPACE KING!

>>98621828
>>98629744
Why on earth do they need $4 mil to make a board game

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>>98629765
They don't, it's to fund MORE SPACE KING!

>>98628559
They had some great art, That's all they did right. They fucked over their kickstarters, went back on everything they said they would do during said kickstarter, then started to hate on the group that was their biggest spenders cause they straight white men thinking they could get a replacement.I give TC 3-5 more years before it gone. They fucked, the gameplay is shit, the story is a joke, the cost is the same as 40k now. The play group is smaller than other Wargames. The figures are shit and have resin traps in official models. What makes you think it worth keeping alive?

>>98629786
>What makes you think it worth keeping alive?
Containment for it's fanbase.
>t. burned backer

>>98629835
.... Meh, I am not willing to keep TC alive to try and contain the fags and activists, especially since gatekeeping them does a better job than keeping an IP alive just to contain them. I mean they end up leaving and trying to shit on our stuff and smear their "rainbow + shit" once something gets bigger than their containment anyways.

>>98625397
I'm so tired of you faggots who don't want anything to take itself seriously. Angloid millenianoid were a fucking mistake.

>>98630043
Dude, even TC doesn't take itself seriously. I mean between everything canon to actually pushing the demons and the church are both shades of gray. Don't forget adding Commie Russia, and the Middle East both having the power to stop the demons without being as "bad" as the church. To fucking admitting in 4k they will shit on the church as the bad guy whenever they can get away with it. Let's be honest. This was made a few cool pieces of art and try to make a world around it but then saw it was pro-christian/cathodic. So they did whatever they could be shit on them and make them somewhat the bad guys too.

>>98629782
They don't watch Hatemonger's sermons and it shows. He explains everything in them especially the "Per Capita"

>>98629690
>make them look cool
If only they did that.
I never saw the appeal in washed-out mud coloring.

>>98624491
> by the actual-angels fighting alongside humanity,

The actual-angels aren't fighting alongside humanity. When actual-angels show up they just kill everyone.

>>98625323
Yes actively rejecting political movements is an important part to keeping something apolitical

>>98630655
LOL Oh wait you're serious. Let me laugh even harder. HAHAHAHAHA!

It takes way more than a few million to make a small state. Plus, who going to go there to start from scratch. You? I don't think so, plus at this point I want to see how much white people will take it before they wake up and say fuck it we play by your rules and become a voting block. Cause once they do, I mean not just a good amount but more than 3/4 of them. Then it's over, outside of maybe Japanese and Koreans which are often counted as white in all things outside of actual whites. Can a group even build or make something outside of a 3rd world shack. Look at the middle east and Africa.

>>98625958
>allows the use of his blood and flesh,

He also allows earth to get skull fucked by demons

>>98630655
What's up with that editing?
Is this someone making fun of fascists?

>>98630655
b8

tourist chuds idea of rebellion and fighting back against white genocide is giving millions to redditor cartoon funko pops

>>98630693
>Then try to paint the God side, where he cant come down or he'll unmake Creation by his mere presence, as morally grey since he inspires and allows the use of his blood and flesh, that bends the rules to further the cause of Faithful humans.
>where he cant come down or he'll unmake Creation by his presence
>Argos was taken by God and is no more
>Angel nukes

It's either destroy all of Creation or help the Faithful fight it out by being distantly present but supplying visions and inspiring magitek. The reason the demons have to fuck dogs and goats and send their spawn instead is God will simply hit reset if the true Demons take to the field. Vs God is letting humans, the carriers of Free Will use his gifts in similar fashion. It's barely murky. But it's still heretical eternal torture oviposition rapists vs faithful monks plucking their eyes out to see as God, djinni being made to serve man because God is keeping a promise to Solomon even if Solomon turned from him, various alchemical knockoffs of Creation and Doomslayer Christpostles to allow humans to compete with Demonic Dog fuck spawn.

>>98630720
>You're not chud, youre a zionist tool just like the leftoids were 10 years ago
I'm a National Socialist, I'm just against this political off topic posting regardless, it doesn't belong in the hobby and makes any nationalist movement look bad and off topic. It's one thing to criticize their side stepping out of line and their blatant propaganda, it is another to do it yourself. There are no battles to be won here, any victories in the TTRPG scene will be from cultural osmosis from victories elsewhere and in actual government.
It's pointless on this board anyway when the jannies have already picked a side. I guarantee you that you are going to get banned as soon as a janny sees your post. This is literally the worst board on the site to discuss this shit.

>>98630720
>Tourist hating that Space King beat their gay grimdark mocking Christianity and the chuds thinks he can armchair build a mirconation with chump change.

First off, why do you think most people don't do it if it's so easy?
Simply dumbass, you need to own land, get the building supplies for all your housing and farm units, generators, skylink, etc. Plus you have to have a group of people that aren't fags or commies. As they all need to build and work for said place. Plus, once one is made, the land around it tends to be taken to sell for a premium. So you need more than a few mil.

This is why often you need someone with deep pockets and somewhere where you can build enough land that you can fucking grow and still make enough or have enough to pay the taxes to keep it.

If you want a starting fund for a "mirconation" that isn't just a farm or two combined. You need at least 4000 acres.

>>98630655
What the fuck is this editing?

>>98630720
>No
Then hire a better editor or learn how to properly edit then

>>98626617
It's because they're sons/daughters of accomplished people that let them "do as they please" aka being worthless slobs and lived on the internet indocrination 24/7. If these MF had to work they would have no time to be faggots or dykes
Also wargames are for rich/elititsts so no wonder

>>98625609
>It's not like people got banned from the discord just for being vocally right wing.
No, they got banned from the discord for being *suspected* of having right wing sympathies based on vibes, or because the deranged tranny mods cyberstalked them across social media and found a tweet or whatever they could twist into being not 1000% supportive of identitarian wokery. A buddy of mine is a literal, actual, publicly-avowed Communist and an actual tranny(masc, I'm not misgendering before you start screeching) and he got booted from the discord because he first attempted to join at 2am in his timezone and the deranged and paranoid mods sent him a message asserting this was proof he was an Arch-sent infiltrator coming to spread right-wing poison.

You will not be permitted to rewrite history on this, you disingenuous faggot.

>>98633923
>based on vibes
>cyberstalked them across social media and found a tweet or whatever they could twist
Don't forget ignoring change and growth or/and just being edgy with no deliberate malicious meaning. Context is never considered.
>You will not be permitted to rewrite history on this
What you fail to understand is that most casual wargamers that had hopes for TC have left. The last defenders are the radical ones and/or haven't broken their sunk cost fallacy chains. Or culture warrior grifters who can't evict chuds out of their heads.
>t. broke sunk cost fallacy chains
I envy the ones who got inspiration to make hellish weird war soldiers and had their miniatures be usable in other wargames as their work can be repurposed for other games.

One thing about TC was it supposedly being a satire of religion and it is quite fascinating seeing such religious devotion to Trench Crusade despite all that's happened.

>>98622091
Flashgitz were making animations aimed at chud manchildren before orange man went anywhere near the White House, they're not going to stop after he's gone.

>>98622091
There's no way this post is real ahahah, this has to be satire itself.

>lord Cheeto
There is NO WAY you are stupid enough to think chuds are only on the rise because of trump and that he's the cause, not one of the effects. The cultural causes of young men moving further and further right aren't going anywhere. We don't even fucking like trump anymore, we're all just waiting for his fat ass to reach the end of his term so we can vote in someone WAY further right.

>>98622911
Looks line old Space Hulk don't you think?
>>98622193
Doesn't seem like you are ignoring the drama. Hope you games go well though

>>98634752
It's basically Space Crusade.

>>98624437
>I wonder if that general is just "pity bumped" by /awg/ or /40kg/ anons to keep Trench Crusade anons away from their generals if that makes sense.
Pretty much, I see TC as that containment board. Though, 40k is already being consume by the faggots of chaos. (Let's be real GW wants to be bought out by someone like Amazon or Hasbro and just walk away rich.)

>>98626320
They saw a DEI hobby video filled troons and POC and thought it was true. I mean look at any Game con. No, who was let in as guest, or as a speaker. The people paying for the tickets to enter. 9 times out of 10 it's a white guy. Plus some of those 1 out of 10s are their girl being dragged along.