Why don't I just pocket the million? Its not like the nerds need the money
>>98623659Gonna need some context here. Did something happen at MWG?
are we supposed to know who this guy is?
>>98623771No one has gotten the kick starter they did and they are laying everyone off and sold their location and they raised a million for ravaged star
I doubt they pocketed it, but they might of done some shady shit like use the money to pay off some other debt or something like that. Seems like they've made a bunch of bad financial decisions over the years that are all catching up finally.
It was really funny to watch Dave take to minutes in that video to explain, "I have no skills, and do nothing at this company, which unfortunately led me to do nothing about the Kickstarter."They're SO fucking Mormon. The idea that you can have the co-lead of your company be your childhood friend who brings nothing to the table but uhhh *checks notes* his excitement? Even though he's always been a midwit theatre kid tier hype man anyway. Not even good at his one job.
>>98623775Genuinely.This is just, as far as I can tell, some guy.
>>98624263Mormonism really is satanic, they are always caught up in some horrible scandal, like that Lego shit or running those Synanon derivative pederast cult schools that torture "bad kids" to defraud the government out of healthcare funds meant for addition.
>>98623775>>98624275Same so I went and looked for MWG. Leaf youtube idiots bungle a big kick starter. Spiky bits has an article on it.
>>98624098MWG Dave made poor financial decisions?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
>>98624370>location>They actually are near me. I feel odd finding out now. I'm not sure if I would have financially supported them.At least MWG got Wargames Atlantic to release The Damned models. So they did something good. Also their tutorials were nice for me starting out.There is a chance that they're moving house because the homeless numbers are rising. I'd call that chance low though but it is there no matter what.>t. Google says I only need 33 minutes of bus ride time to get thereAnyways don't harass them. I'm gonna lie and deny using this site if you somehow run into me in real life while I am at an LGS. Normies will assume the worst if they find out.But you can earn my friendship through giving me +500 USD free money or a safe to eat cooked broccoli and cheese chicken kiev.
>>98624275If you're here as a wargamer (and not a RPGfag) and don't know who this fag and his partner are you're genuinely ignorantThey trailblazed wargaming content on youtube. It doesn't matter if you think wargaming youtube is bad or not, because it's still culturally, socially and economically relevant
>>98624488Did Miniwargaming have a golden age? Or were they just one of the earliest miniature painting/wargaming channels that hit social media?
>>98624370Spiky bits is literally AIDS though
>>98624530One of the earliest channels with high quality video production in an age where most people just had blurry shaky cams and no editing. These days they are not only dime a dozen, but have been out-competed in quality and upload speed.
>constantly shilling kickstarter campaigns and patreon as way to support the channel>has the ability to go on paid parental leave when his son is born due to generous audience support>immediately fires all his staff as soon as his paid leave is over>subtly blames it on lack of audience support in the damage control videoi'm glad i've never given money to a youtuber
>>98624263>Even though he's always been a midwit theatre kid tier hype man anyway. Not even good at his one job. Nah, Dave was certainly a driving force for their growth. He was the face of the company, and I certainly cared more when a video involved him back around 2010. I never got too into wargaming content, it just fundamentally doesn't hold me, but Dave usually made it watchable. I'm certain that isn't an unique experience. Otherwise what you said? Pretty on point imo
>>98624934This rat faced guy looks untrustworthy
>>98624530They've always kind of sucked and been weird, due to the Mormon thing. Like they can't swear or acknowledge that a model has big boobs. MWG Dave can be like, "Raaaaargh! I love CHAAAAOS!!" but it doesn't quite hit when you know he's strictly forbidden from drinking coffee.If it wasn't for that element, they would be normal nerds (with stereotypically annoying nerd qualities) and YMMV over how enjoyable you'd find that to watch. Dave is an ADHD theatre kid type who needs to be the centre of attention and will derail things to achieve it. Matt is a mega autist with bizarre opinions and preferences about rules, and is also a very poor sport who gets pissy and rants about bad luck and OP rules if a game starts going against him.Their weirdo hirelings were always more interesting than they were themselves (although Mormon skepticism prevented me from truly enjoying any of them). But they care about wargaming in genuine (and, again, sometimes stereotypically annoying) ways and never felt like fakes or posers. They also weren't cucked to GW like so many influencers are now to keep their free merch flowing. MWG's biggest moment was probably when they exposed GW's toxic LGS policies and then eventually shut their store down and went full youtube.
>>98625161you really seem to care about that mormon thing
>>98624934Youtubers always seem to go bust or complain about not being able to make any money when all they do is overcommit to the channel and produce less content at a higher cost.I swear everytime one of these guys gets a little famous and opens a patreon they go from producing weekly videos to maybe once every two months.
Having 12 employees for a youtube channel is baffling to me. Same with that australian cunt who fired 4 people or something. You're making toy soldiers fight each other on camera what the fuck do you need 12 people for? So you can push out MORE videos that average 1k views? Patreon was a mistake.
You aren't guaranteed anything if you back a kickstarter.
>>98625161That's a retarded standard. Liking fiction doesn't mean it reflects your life. It's the same stupid idea that playing nazis in a game makes you a nazi.
>>98625434Hello, defensive christfag.Being a practicing, true-believer member of an extremist, evangelist cult/religion does indeed disqualify you from liking fiction that your cult, to which you tithe material support, would ban outright if ever given the power to do so. At least it disqualifies you from doing so without being called weird, annoying hypocrites faggots, which is what the MGM guys are.But this is ever the story of the religious/conservative. Nobody in their fold makes any art of note or value, so they must selectively consume art made by people they would jail or kill in their supposed ideal society.
>>98625370I am guaranteed the right to shit talk anyone who fumbles their kickstarter though. Especially when it is successful.I didn't back MWG though.>>98625518NTA but I don't believe MWG were really preaching their beliefs even subtly. Unless they were you're coming across as straight out of 2011 r/atheism on being offended when you sneeze and get told "bless you" and then being anti-religious going too far focusing only on Christian ones and ignoring that other religions exist.
>>98625518FICTION ISN'T REAL RETARD.
>>98625370You aren't guaranteed to be murdered if you steal people's money, but hopefully it will happen all the same.
>>98625527Show me the practicing fundamentalist muslim warhammer youtube channel and i'll make fun of it too. There isn't one, because religious extremists in other countries actually make sacrifices for their beliefs and endure the privations. Treatlerite North Americans cannot go without their toys and entertainment.MWG are not merely "culturally mormon," they are practicing members of the orthodox institution of their gay religion; they literally fund missionaries with their youtube channel. Seething christfag posts make me feel good.
>>98625530>literally believes in some gay ass fiction about turning the other cheek from 1700 years agoChristfags are worse than trannies.
>>98625220I think a lot of them don't treat it as a business. Then you have Majorkill who do focuses heavily on it bring a business and makes shitloads of money
>>98624488>They trailblazed wargaming content on youtubeSo it's tertiary shit. Gotcha.
>>98625370I think you are. Because they promise to make a certain thing for the money you pledge. Thats a deal.The only thing is, the site Kickstarter are not responsible. And the question is if the project still has money you can sue them for and if legal fees are higher than what you invested.No wonder so many kickstarter are scams, it is quite easy for them to get away.
>>98625576I'm only voicing my observation due to your conduct that gives off r/atheism vibes. It was highlighted in a different thread, but the old "this side can't make art" is weird because "modern artists" were making slop like unpainted canvases in museums or a red line over dark blue selling for millions. Then now that AI is here suddenly this is too far and not art? I don't like AI sloppers acting like they're any better when they're putting out their slop beyond a joke or to be taken seriously. Nor do I like modern artists. I think modern artists are a pompous bourgeois coded clique of grifters.>Seething christfag posts make me feel good.You know "own the libs" mentality but libs being replaced with religious people isn't a good look, right? You'll look really weird if you double down on this.
>>98625220they make the mistake of thinking that because there is patreon money coming in they need to increase the production values, which in the mind of the midwit means hiring production staff and editors. these are ongoing costs that enslave them to a minimum monthly income just to keep the lights on. when in reality all they "needed" to do was upgrade their camera and mic (fixed one time costs) and keep on trucking with almost zero overheads. the other thing these retards do as soon as there's a whiff of paypig money around is to build a set that they can blogpost in. their channel was kino when they were a faceless sperg yapping about terrain building a mini painting. building a set and facefagging for 50% of the video in it is the worse thing they could do, but it's the default move for these people.
>>98624488>They trailblazed wargaming content on youtubeI don't watch wargaming videos online. They're, truthfully, pretty boring. I've probably seen this dude, went "wow that's boring" and clicked off.So I ask you again, who is this guy. What has he done beyond talk into a camera?
>>98625605Modern art is effectively all meta commentary on art, both on the general concept of artistry and also how someone interacts with art.Take, for example, Maurizio Cattelan's Comedian. You know this statue, even if you do not know Maurizio Cattelan or the name of the piece. It's the Banana duct taped to the wall. You know this piece of art, even if you do not recognize it as a piece of art. Part of what makes it art, in the context of modern art, is the fact that people are arguing over if this can even be classified as art.That said, I'll admit, it is pompous. It's art nerds talking to other art nerds about what art even is. It's a circlejerk. Most art circles are and always have been.That said, to your core point - it is incredibly childish for people to act like their ideological enemies are incapable of art or have no internality or what have you. For example - I think Jon McNaughton sucks, both as an artist and as a person. But even though I think his art is dimwitted, servile and uninspired, but importantly he is out here making art.
>>98625579>majorkillThe nepo baby who shills porn and peptides to an underage audience. Complaining on some random business podcast he regretted linking the channel to himself so now he can't sell it some investor. Or the new "business" he shilled raffling dioramas which was obviously not going to work and now he stopped because it didn't make enough money. He's the most shameless, insincere talentless warhammer content creator to ever exist.
>>98626166Forgot to add, seems to get away with making the most blatant GW ripoff proxies even marketing them alongside actual GW minis. I'm surprised they haven't sued the living shit out of him.But yeh a real business guy right there brother
>>98625577Mormons aren't christian, they don't believe in the trinity as decided under Constantine. Further more they believe that man can ascend to godhood and rule there own world after learning lessons in this life. They also believe Satan is Jesus brother. All these heresies preclude them from being christian.The core tenniant of Christianity is a universalist all powerful god. Even the Adoptionist of the 2nd and 3rd century who believe Jesus became one with god on the cross would challenge these aspects as being acceptable to a christian.They are theologically closer to Islam than Christianity, honestly they are demonic and focus elevating man and their sins to the place of god. Its why they are always stealing or involved in some sex cult.
For me it's the Warhammer branded hotel rooms 40kids really are morphing into Disney adults
>>98625530Sir, these are mormons.They have a hard time indeed making the distinction.
>>98626166>the nepo bay who shills ...peptides.I don't really fuck with warhammer youtubers, so I thought "oh anon must be exaggerating."Nope this dude just straight up owns a supplement company and uses his warhammer channel to shill it.Vile.
>>98626182imagine taking your escort back to this place for the 2 hours
>>98626182Surprisingly cheap for a kitschy themed room
>>98626182Considering this flopped and MWG is broke, this demonstrably didn't work, which kinda goes against your theory that GW Whales are the same as Disney adults
>>98626218it would work if someone tried it near warhammer world and it was space marine themed
>>98626176>Mormons aren't christianThey kinda are.To be clear, I do not think that they're in communion with other christian sects. There is clearly some fundamentally different beliefs going on here.Thing is that mormonism hasn't totally broken off of Christianity yet. It's gonna get there, but right now, there is enough connective tissue there that these are one thing. I say this with total sincerity - you give it a century or two and Mormonism will be a distinct religion. But right now, it's just a prominent and weird christian cult.
>>98626182Consider the smell.
Why have Mormons turned their attention together to miniature wargaming?This was basically an infomercial for Doom1490
>>98623659Fuck off with your literally who vagueposting.
>>98626249Socially isolated people they can trick into their cult and children to molest.
>>98624488>you don't get it man this guy is ON YOUTUBE>you're genuinely fucking IGNORANT if you don't follow this guy on the YOUTUBE>this so heckin culturally and socially and economcally relevant because he just he just IS OK!?You absolutely desperately need to go back to Plebbit and kill yourself, holy shit.
>>98625577>Christfags are worse than trannies.They're not exactly worse, but they are pretty much exactly the same thing, as we have observed in recent years. As Christoid pearlclutchers lost relevance, they were enthusiastically replaced with Transfag pearlclutchers. It is all very tiresome.
>>98625600>I think you are.You are in fact not. It is extremely clearly laid out by Kickstarter. You are an investor in the potential of a product, and the reward for your investment comes in the form of the product that you have invested in, should the product come to fruition. But many of them do not and you have not guarantees, and you are in fact repeatedly warned of this face.>Because they promise to make a certain thing for the money you pledge. No, they promise to try. If you want to, you can try to sue on the basis that they did not try, but that's literally it. And then you can get the privilege of being very low down on a list of claimants on the bankrupcy proceedings.
>>98626176>Mormons aren't christianOnly a Christian would engage in the sectarian nonsense that's "On X isn't TRUE Christians!". You're ultimately no better than the retarded Communists doing the same with Marxism. You can find any number of various transgressions against purity if you look for it, it all depends upon what you emphasize.>>98626182Wow that is exceptionally cringe.>>98626192>escortYou can just say prostitute or more accurately whore. It's fine, this isn't plebbit, you can use real words here, you dumb nigger.
>>98626309It isn’t a no true Scotsmen Mormonism may be derived by the same philosophical heritage but it has new prophets, redefines what god is, has crazy lore about North American native Jews and believes man’s goal is to ascend to godhod.It’s a religion but not Christianity. If you weren’t a history illiterate Reddit atheist you’d see it. It’s as Christian as Marxism. He’ll Marxism may be more Christian than Mormonism with its universalism. It’s basically just a Franciscan Christianity that sets out to make the world whole itself instead of waiting for god.
>>98625209because Mormonism is evil.
>>98626309If that room isn't to your liking you can always stay in da ork hut! (no gits allowed)
>>98626249It's just a clumsily coordinated market break-in effort. Not for the sake of any surface level nefarious cult stuff like that other anon said, it's a bit deeper than that.Mormons so, so desperately want to be like the jews; coordinated financial stakes in as many markets as possible, influence through interconnected institutions, fingers in every pie and people in every hall of power, the full works of ingroup shadow-power.The problem is that they aren't high iq schizo-autist ashkenazis with two millennia of culturally honed cunning. Rather they're the descendants of some of the dumbest whites that continental america could produce, self-selected by the retardation of their own mythology, working with less than two hundred years of set up.So what their efforts at shadow power amount to various podunk corporations and local government services across Utah (this is why and how the lego thing happened), alongside a solid hand in the CIA and FBI [for which they do deserve credit]. More on topic, it's why their efforts to break into wargaming are a sad store-brand trench crusade knockoff with a bad documentary to market it.
>>98626327It's Christianity.It's weird, culty Christianity, but it's Christianity.
>>98626399>tranny ideology that was invented by jews to defy gods design of male and female and christianity which innately rejects this ideology and the jewry that invented is are basically the same thingFirst of all this is the stuff you trannies whine and dilate about on /x/, not here, so fuck off back there immediately, but what is the actual point? It's been completely raped into oblivion as an idea a million times already. It's basically safe edgy fodder at this point. >they want you to obeyAnd you will (Philippians 2:10) good observation!
>>98626192>"...Are you some kind of... nazi or something?"
>>98626264>"I'm a classical musician and I've never heard of Beethoven. What do you mean I'm retarded? Y-you're retarded!"
>>98626799.........No.Simply, no. Dear gods, no. Holy fuck, no, you're retarded.You might be the most retarded poster on this webzone.The equivalent would be->"I'm a classical musician and I've never heard of xXItakeItInTheBach6767Xx or his youtube channel."
>>98626404nta but its not. Christianity rests on the deity of Jesus Christ, his prophetic fulfillment and his sacrificial atonement, thats the absolute minimum foundation of Christianity, whether its roman catholic/orthodox/protestant/nondenom etc. everything beyond that, theres room to argue which explains the various traditions and their conflicts, but mormons and jehovas witnesses do not believe in that foundation and cannot be considered Christians. Read the the Nicene Creed and see if you can get it to fit mormon doctrine
>>98626815Holy fuck you're dense. I'd say use your brain to parse the meaning but I don't think you have anything but calcium under that dome
>>98626799It's more like saying knowledge of Brentalfloss is integral to understanding videogames.
>>98627027That's a name I haven't heard in a long time.
>>98626192>scream "FOR THE EMPEROR!" when you nut
>>98626218This is because it's located in Welland, Ontario, a town nobody wants to visit. Their only customers were probably parasocial youtube viewers who wanted to come play the on-camera presenters.If they had opened that themed hotel in downtown Toronto, and charged appropriate prices, I could see it doing a lot better.Are there testimonials from anyone who has stayed in those cells? I'm so curious how they worked. Do they have 24/7 access? Can you leave your room in the middle of the night and get back in? Is there a concierge?
>>98626192>taking the streetwalker you picked up in a provincial Canadian backwater to the mormon-run Warhammer hotel
>>98626192haha yeah that would be weird hahaha
>>98626249The ones at Catalyst have been successful recently so there are more of them flocking to a new grfit.
>>98625833In general most youtubers also forget that your average youtube career has a shelf-life of about 5 years, maybe less, unless you're willing to adapt and evolve with the market.
>>98626404Only to Mormons.
>>98627326So that's what Gondor was up to when the Westfold fell.
>>98626166Exactly. He runs it as a business rather than a hobby. Which is why he's been successful. Hence the expansion out to other ideas and cancelling shit that doesn't make money
>>98626182>Warhammer branded hotel roomsBoy I thought I bought too many Warhammer 40k video games mostly Dawn of War expansions before getting into the miniatures.This is too much. I feel 2nd hand embarrassment that there are fans taking this too far. I get enjoying things. There is a limit to everything though. This is too far.
>>98627326is this your hooker?
>>98626009If you did watch wargaming content, these were apparently decently entertaining, and "Dave" was a consistently likable personality for some. His mere presence is nostalgic for some. Like you, I don't think I've ever sat through a single battle report or whatever, but for some reason I know Dave and have a strange liking for him. I guess everyone's known someone like him at some point in highschool and it's slightly cheering to see him still there consistently being who he is.
>>98627027Honestly unironically yes if you don't know a brentalfloss song by heart you probably don't actually play video games and just know them by the memes
>>98631259Thats his Clockwork Orange table.
>>98631259No, got the image from here a while back. Something about seeing the >summon a succubus to get it to play games with you comics but irl years later is amusing.
>>98626853Eh a christcuck is a christcuck
>>98623659>personality focused battle reports
>Half of the posts are from an r/Atheism refugeeThat's on me I guess, what did I expect from a thread about F-list e-celebs?
>>98623659>let's get into the highly competitive miniature wargaming market with a generic ripoff product despite not owning any manufacturing!
>>98626404It started from Christianity but it's like saying Muslims are Jews just because they share some rootstock.
>>98634034YWNBAC
>>98627326>Do you MESBG?
>>98626343Lol i slept on the top of that bunkbed. A few years ago, before TOW launched there was one last 8th edition warhammer fantasy tournament.I didn't want to bother with actually searching for accommodations and split the room with another attendant so it was fairly cheap. I thought the room were gimmicky and a bit tacky but nothing too crazy. Just another themed AirBnB. The beds were clean and comfortable, the room was actually dark at night, and insulated well enough that despite many other players getting drunk and noisy during the night, i could sleep just fine. The bathroom was clean and i can't remember if it was themed or not. The shower worked well and a variety of soapbars and fresh towels were provided.I did steal the little soaps my roomate didn't use (all of them).Never met the guy before or after the event (he flew in from the UK, I drove in from Toronto). He was stocky and had a goatee to, I assume, delineate where his chin and neck were sipposed to be. He wore a grey sweater the whole time, whit his face disappearing into the hood, and his neck disappearing into his round and protruding torso.I also remember that a bunch of the players were dressed very sloppily: hoodies, shorts, ill fitting t-shirts goddam fucking flipflops.The only exceptions were Dr. Blaxill, who was wearing what seemed a costume for a remake of the Rocky Horror Picture Show, including some sort of maroon leopard print shawl under a leather jacket; and this Italian (or French?) guy who was wearing a button up shirt with a vest (!) and some way too elegant leather shoes. I remember jokingly telling him that he was way overdressed for the event, and he just told me in the most serious expression I've ever seen that "no, [he] didn't dress particularly well, [he] just dressed with dignity"It was interestingI'll say this though, while technically "Southern Ontario" Welland is truly very out of the way. The store would be cool to play with semi-regularly but
>>98623659I'll add to this what I'm aware of.MWG were working with Lazy Squire Games as silent partners or sub contractors on Ravaged Star,Whenever LSG have come up MWG have simultaneously distanced themselves from LSG and defended them.LSG scammed millions through Stormsunder on backerkit and Wild Assent on Gamefound.They've been stringing backers along for years, I myself am all in on both pledges having followed King of Average's advice on the company since they had fulfilled before and Wild Assent was effectively a reprint.LSG have done work for MWG in art and may be behind miniature design and fulfillment.They have also worked with Scott Taylors Legend of the Keepers.Being behind book layout and design and the go between for printing contacts in China.(Which I didn't know at the time of backing).I believe MWG had every intention of fulfilling, but didn't properly vet LSG and have paid the price for choosing poor partnership.
>>98627099I replied here>>98634620 But it's not an hotel. It's more like an airbnb. So once you get your acces card, you can do whatever you want. All the rooms are on the same 2nd floor (kind of) but the only thing they share is the hallway.
>>98634620were the game store and tables open 24/7? My game store would always start closing down at 10:30 and it was super lame
>>98626341why? they seem less evil than american evangelicals.
>>98624263>but uhhh *checks notes* Fuck off
>>98623659Kek
>>98623659If you give your money to a Mormon, you shouldn't be surprised when they steal it. This is how they are. No refunds!
>>98624263When Matt wanted to start the company he needed capital from Dave's lawn mowing business (this is literally what he did before MWG. Matt ran a shady small call centre operation from his basement).That's it.
>>98625161Dave and Matt give zero shits about wargaming, Dave got in shape and immediately tried to get into acting (forced the company to fund an entire movie, and it's shit, for a side character he played in some straight to TV f tier movie). He literally only wants an audience and gives zero shit how he gets it. Matt cares about wargaming as so far as it gets him paid. Both were too lazy to change their video format when it became clear 40k in 40 minutes was the future.
>>98626166Literally this. Fuck that ausscuck>>98634620Bro you make this sound like a gay meet up
>>98635224The game area is physically separated from the sleeping portion. They're on different floor with different entrances if i remember correctly.At the time, a couple of people did stay in the gaming area till 3am. But I'm unsure if that was a special arrangement for the tournament, if it's indeed open 24/7, or if those people kust didn't leave the gaming area (which was completely unsupervised).>>98635691I mean... given that it was a warhammer fantasy tournament, that it was organized by the two people who run the square based youtube channel, that several of the attendees happened to be youtubers themselves...
>>98626182what the fuck
>>98623659>Another overly ambitious crowd funded project fails to deliverWhy do people keep backing these things
>>98635742Nah anon, you sound really gay in that post. You focus a lot on your roommates physical appearance in a really weird way
>>98626404>Baal worship>Rabbinic Judaism>Sabbatean Frankism>Freemasonry>MormonismFreemasonry is Baal worship for the goyim and Mormonism is just freemasonry codified into a religion for utter retards. Seethe all you want, but it has nothing to do with Christianity
>>98634620I was certain this was going to end in a nocturnal sexual assault
>>98636311Mormonism is just a greatest hits of ancient heresies.You know how after the Gregorian reforms the religious authorities would ascribe various beliefs they'd read about in the ancient history of the church like Gnosticism and Messalianism to local resistance against the reforms.Mormonism is the opposite of that, some half-read venal American accidentally reinventing Arianism, etc., out of pure stupidity.
>>98631769Remind me that time I used to hire college girls to dress up in silly clothing while cleaning my place.Eventually we played some Dark Heresy. Outside of one girl none of them like it, but at least they did not hate playing it.
>>98626249Mormons have been super into wargaming since the LotR game came out, they love LotR more then Jesus but less then polygamy.
>>98623802Oh dear. Id call a lawyer and fast, before he runs off to Mexico.
>>98623659In short, these retards embarked on a business venture they didn't have the means to do and by the time they figured that out, they were already legally responsible to deliver the product.So now they are scrambling to get it done and off their backs while paying their regular bills, when business is slowing down.They are not the first or the last to step into this self made trap. The game will be delivered eventually, but by then nobody will give a shit and the delay has ensured it's dead on arrival.
