Are Beastmen inherently evil in Warhammer Fantasy (I know they were all genocided in Age of Sigmar) or is more like 40k where they are regular mutants/abhumans but are so mistreated by the righteous authorities many of them end up embracing Chaos?
>>98631006They’re inherently evil. Mutants join them and are merely tolerated as the least of them.
>>98631006Yes, they simply can't help it. They are human intelligence coupled with predatory instincts and hatred for anything that isn't pure Chaosno bullshit about "nature vs nurture"; being evil is their nature and the product of Chaos
>>98631006They are born evil and tainted with chaos. No wholesome chungus furries in Warhammer
Yes, they are Chaos-tainted.40k Beastmen is "the AdMech and Inquisition can't FIND Chaos taint but we're pretty sure".
>>98631025>>98631032>>98631042HOWEVER
>>98631052Everyone knows it doesn't count if it's a tiger.
>>98631006>Are Beastmen inherently evil in Warhammer FantasyYes. They are fully creatures of Chaos. They are usually also too stupid for empathy. Gaves can be smarter hand have a wider range of moral sophistication, but they're always evil still.Killing them is a mercy. Their existence is a cruel joke by eldritch evils.
>>98631052nu-WHF is not WHF. It's basically just an AoS side-product. And it looks the part.
>>98631006>Are Beastmen inherently evil in Warhammer FantasyYes, anon... yes they are.No "raising the little monster baby with love" like you Redditors love so much. The moment you raise that young, you will immediately have a Dunwich Horror conundrum in your hands. Their instincts will immediately kick in, and they will eat everyone in your house and start attacking everyone in the village. Beastmen function and run on instinct and primal urges. When they go on Warherds, the Bray Shamans tap in that nature and make them go on blood frenzies. When you see a Beastmen raid, it's just a pure animalistic stampede.And to follow up the next question, there is a reason why a lot of people in Warhammer Fantasy give up their mutant babies instead of snuffing them out outright. Spilling the blood of a Chaos-touched creature directly, especially with your own hands inside your own home, can leave a spiritual stain or "attract" the gaze of the Dark Gods to the remaining family. Also, a lot of peasants are mired in superstition: Villagers often believe that killing the child outright invites a curse, while leaving it to the "will of the gods" (or nature) absolves the parents of direct murder. If the wilderness claims the child, the parents fool themselves into believing their hands are clean. They also believe that breastfeeding or raising a mutated child is believed to physically infect the mother or corrupt the household's livestock and crops. There is also the issue of Witch Hunters, Priests of Sigmar, or paranoid neighbors discovering a mutant in a home. The entire family is routinely burned at the stake to purge the corruption. They have to get rid of that shit QUICK. Exposure in the forest is a frantic attempt to destroy the evidence before anyone finds out.
>>98631006>Are Beastmen inherently evil in Warhammer FantasyYes, Mutants are not, but Beastmen and Skaven are just evilTigermen might be the weird exception, and even then, if they don't fervently worship their ancestor god, then they fall to Chaos
>>98631052>>98631117that's not a beastman that's yet another old one experiment I'm pretty ure
>>98631006They're still around in aos, only the non-god aligned ones got purged
>>98631128The cat beastmen had no complex lore in old Warhammer Fantasy, they might not even have actually existed, since the only people reporting on them were Tilean sailors, IIRC.Also they killed the not-Indians who worshiped them seemingly at random, so it might've just been a 'pajeets are stupid' joke.
>>98631006I really dont like this dudes comics.
>>98631184They did exist; they even had art in WFRP2e, but they basically weren't developed at all
>>98631195They have no stats, are mentioned in OWB as an anecdote only and in a piece of art. I'm pretty sure the devs (wisely) thought it was more compelling to leave them to the GMs to develop (or ignore) as they pleased.Something a lot of people don't know either is that beastmen didn't used to always be goats or cows. Used to be any animal head could show up pretty regularly. Some Chaos gods preferred specific beastmen. Khorne likes dogmen, apparently.
>>98631208Not the same anon, but from what I recall, rams, goats, and cows are the more common beastmen variety because they're the most common domesticated livestock, especially in the Old World.Reminds me of Morghur. The moment he came out of his mother's womb and ripped her apart, people started turning into animal freaks, and animals started sprouting limbs and becoming abject abominations, trying to crawl around with human appendages.
>>98631147offtopic but>TWO sets of new pestigors wowie!>Neither of them are "properly" armored as they are supposed to beAnother GW beastman hatecrime
Sorry libtards, but i already decided to pet the fluffy goat
>>98631254Try being a Tzeentch fan. God of mutation with no mutants.
>>98631254>>Neither of them are "properly" armored as they are supposed to beWho told you they're supposed to be armored?OG's had bloated bellies and malformed horns, Darkwater ones are rotting with skulls showing, main game update are birth defects None of tgoae are supposed to be heavy armored unit
Funny enough the beastmen from 40k are more tolerated and maybe even not inherently chaos tainted.
>>98631635Yes nigger, that's what the OP says.
>>98631098Would you rather have a wife that fucks like a tiger or is loyal like a DOG?>inb4 bothMy Yeezy, how do you intend to crossbreed humans, tigers AND dogs? You gotta choose.
>>98631128>>98631184felinids were actually created in a lab and they're on their own planet so the emperor can have his personal cat cafe planet because he's a filthy WEEB
>>98631254Eh the original ones were pretty sparsely armoured too. I feel like the darkwater ones are pretty close. Would've liked some mail though.
>>98631231>>98631208Beastmen almost always displayed domesticated characteristics because their whole aesthetic is around how the docile cow you're milking might despise you and would happily gore you to death if it had the opportunity.
>>98632027I mean if cows wanted to gore you (or crush you) they can just do it, very little is stopping them
>>98632069It's like... Symbolic, man.
>>98632087There's definitely an aspect of that in the WHFB lore golden age, that this world is so fundamentally chaotic that even domesticated nature will rise up and destroy you if you fail in vigilance for even a moment. But Greg Stafford was probably on more of a "vile fertility" kick when he came up with the Broo, and the Broo are utimately the reason there are beastmen in Warhammer.
>>98631779>4 tits vs 2 titsit's no contest
>>98631117>And it looks the part.Don't be silly. AoS actually gets good minis, even if they're not very Warhammer.
>>98631052They're not beastmen, they're creations of the old ones.
>>98631006They just have a shit culture. For as close to Chaos as people will claim they are, the gods sure seem to love to ignore them, meaning they have a very dim connection to the warp. If you got them to start worshipping Sigmar you'd get awesome shock troops that you can send out to die first instead of actual humans.
>>98632087Symbolic of city boys never interacting with farm animals? Believe me, when livestock wants to hurt you, it will.
>>98632272>For as close to Chaos as people will claim they are, the gods sure seem to love to ignore themTheir souls are already forfeit. The game is won, and therefore gay and boring.
>>98632255That's what the propaganda says
>>98631006>Are Beastmen inherently evil in Warhammer FantasyEverything and everyone who isn't human, straight, and white, is inherently evil.This is also true in Warhammer Fantasy.
>>98632272No. They simply are evil. This has been stated repeatedly and plainly in the army books.>>98631779Dog. Besides, dogs can be trained.
>>98634117>Besides, dogs can be trained.We're still talking about dog women, and women can't.
>>98631779>loyal like a DOG?Liable to maul kids? Shit, give me the tiger mom, at least that's what a tiger is supposed to do.
>>98631118Now I'm imagining a standard always evil race baby being raised by passive zoomer parents that just give the monster baby an iPad and never discipline them or teach them basic reading and walking and pooping skills
>>98634472I'm not gonna sleep easy tonight after reading that.Sometimes I wonder if I've messed up my reading skills as I can't focus. Admittedly not much interests me these days. But my attention span is shot.
>>98632027>the docile cow you're milking might despise you and would happily gore you to death if it had the opportunity>>98632069>I mean if cows wanted to gore you (or crush you) they can just do it, very little is stopping themYeah, honestly it'd be more likely they kill you on accident...>>98632168>>4 tits vs 2 tits
>>98631006Evil in fantasy. Mutants/abhumans in 40K but they get mistreated the most for looking the least human of the 3 that are actually prominently shown so they're more likely to turn to chaos.
>>98634460This is giving real man vs bear vibes.
>>98631006They are evil and savage to the core. But that is what makes them fun in my opinion. The air of mystery and superstition around them also open them up to flavor your Warherd as you see fit within the parameters of Beastmen of course.
