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>What's Trench Crusade?
An indie wargame with World War One holy crusader vs forces of hell dark fantasy vibes.

>How do I get started?
All the files are free online:
https://www.trenchcrusade.com/rules/

Old TC mega:
https://mega.nz/folder/70QH0BBa#Eg-blxYQKkY_C02wErnFTQ

>third party sources for making trenchers:
https://pastebin.com/YzXPVUAc
Vote with your wallet in protest against so many promises walked back on instead of using the official plastics.

>Trench Companion, warband builder and campaign tracker
https://trench-companion.com/

>Previous Thread:
>>98502795
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How many early Trench Crusade supporters are still here and hoping that things turn around for the better after all that has happened?
I'm still here and hoping.
>t. backed the kickstarter and got my book very late
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>>98636451
How about we add some slop to ditch jihad to warn up the view of the game, amirite?
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>>98636451
this is my favorite artwork by mike franchina
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What do you guys buy for your Nuns?
Flails? Swords? Mauls?
I tend to go with flails, since their basic +1 to hit isn't that much and I like to give them shields in the other hand. That and Warcrosses for the Assault keyword. Kinda tempted to give one a misericordia and use her mobility to fish for easy downed targets to finish.
Sucks you can't give them molotovs or any non-shit guns
>>98636473
>things turn around for the better after all that has happened?
To be quite honest I just have fun playing the game with my friends using the minis we got from KS files and some conversions and don't care about any of the shitty drama in the slightest.
Fuck the OP for using another fucking AI slop picture though
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>>98637061
>don't care about any of the shitty drama
Walking back on founding selling points of TC after giving so many hopes that this will be the gold standard of what indie wargames should be is "shitty drama????"
Anon feigning ignorance is a terrible response.
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>>98636473
>here and hoping that things turn around for the better after all that has happened?
What happened? Backed the kickstarter, and haven't seen a bad turn.
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>>98637061
Miseracordia +cross if i can afford it. But I don't frequently play pilgrims. Giving them armor is also stronger than it sounds because making them die on a 10 and getting more blessings is massive. Or they require your opponent to focus them, which means your anchorite and elites aren't getting focused by special weapons or elites
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>>98637061
I tend to run mine with warcrosses and either flail+sword or anti-tank hammers.
Flail+sword is the chaffblender choice. Chuck 1-2 of those at enemy troops and nine times out of ten all that remains after the charge are two slightly more bloody nuns in a pool of gore.
The AT-hammer ones i use as essentially guided missiles. I don't expect them to survive but they will put the smackdown on whatever big beastie i aim them at.
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I've played a couple games and this is the worst balanced skirmish game in a long time. And that's counting Kill Team 3. I don't understand why would anyone see the appeal.
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>>98638521
post your list and what you were playing against.
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>>98638767
Don't remember all the details but the worst offender was me (Black Grial) vs Heretic Navy. Dude couldn't remove a single model, it was a steamroll. He was learning to play and he quit shortly after that.
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>>98636451
>Indie
Hah. Haha.
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Is it worth trying to make my Antioch elites good at shooting and melee? Or should I just pick one. I'm new and not sure how much I should be spending on each guy at the start.
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>>98639015
>shooting or melee
Antioch melee is not good. Their strength is cheap fireteam bloodbaths and a really really good ranged armory. People love using steal skills on their armory for a reason.

You might be able to justify it as Abyssinia, but you will be paying ducats to just be OK in melee rather than great.

>how much should I spend
NA in general loves building wide. If you want to think heartless, you are more worried about the gear they lose rather than the models themselves. You want more guns on the table to blow away your opponent rather than building Elite/Tall. It is not uncommon for your entire warband to never buy armor unless it's part of their initial cost
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>>98638834
How mamy flamethrowers was he running? What was his list? That shouldnt be that bad of a matchup.
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>>98639196
>Abyssinia
Guilty as charged. I was going to buy armor for my Lt and Holy Warriors, maybe I should just buy more bodies instead?
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Trench Companion anon... please updates the Naval Raiders and Sacred affliction units to have Profile Pics I can't live like this setting up my warbands...
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>>98639447
Activations are very important in most scenarios, so I would encourage you to do so when you can. As Abby you can get away with spamming basic Yeomen because they're capable of hitting things due to SRM.
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>>98639814
Thanks for the help! I can probably get 2-3 more Yeomen in there.
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why does this game suck muslim cock so hard
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>>98639905
Isn't the designer Polish?
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>>98639905
examples?
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>>98639905
they dont want muslims to murder them irl
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>>98639905
Frank's kink
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>Wanna play a different table top game that isn't 40k
>No other store in my city
I so badly wanna try anything that isn't just 40k. This, Infinity, Crisis Protocol, etc. But I know if I decide to get the bright idea to open up a dedicated game store in my city, I won't be able to play.
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My carcass front just arrived, but i have to leave for the rest of the day so i wont get to open it till tomorrow,
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>>98640584
TC is banned in alot of stores
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>>98642103
Really?
Since when?
>>98640103
You'll be waiting a while.
>>98640584
You don't know anyone in your town?
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I tried to make honeycomb candy but I messed up and now it looks like gore art from trench crusade because I'm pulling it when it's still a bit soft and the sugar creates strands of gore and the inside looks like gore from the poorly formed air pockets and the smell is off because I burnt some sugar and I think the baking soda is too much or something.
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>>98642505
But did it inspire you to paint your minis?
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>>98642103
You are talking out your ass.
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Asking again cause why not. Will the Naval Raiders be released separately from the starter set in the future? Or is that info not yet known?
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>>98645165
I don't know if it's been specified explicitly, but it was heavily implied at least. Tuomas at NoVa mentioned that they wanted to eventually do a campaign box every couple years or so. Meaning they'll have these expensive pretty molds collecting dust otherwise, so probably, but we'll see
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>>98645860
NoVa laat year*** (he wasn't there this year)
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>>98639297
>how many flamethrowers was he running?
>only way for a faction to compete is to bring a shitload of a single type of weapon
Oh Toumas, you never fucking learn.
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>>98644658
Why? Isn't that exactly what overlord Tuomas said would happen?

>Without plastics to sell, no one is going to want TC in their store.

Now they got the plastics, but because the IP is completely toxic, gay and cringe nobody wants to buy it, which is effetively the same thing.

>You gotta incentivise the store owners man!
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>>98646552
And yet you're still talking about it. Curious.
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>>98646552
>completely toxic, gay and cringe
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>98646776
>98646782
It's telling that the only people still "defending" this game are bait trolls like you retards, because you know being a contrarian retard with posts that may as well be from a spambot to farm (you)s is the only purpose left for this general.
Make an actual argument.
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>>98646802
What stores did it get banned from?
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>>98646552
trvth nvke
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>>98646552
Post one (1) example of TC being banned in a store. I’ll wait.
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Post war-bands
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>>98648907
Don't have a recent warband pic, but here's one from NoVa, it was fun
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Companion guy here, Carcass Front post-release bugfixing is basically done so next up is dealing with homebrew - theres a few issues but the main things I'm dealing with are.
> the GUI for editing homebrew, ideally you should be able to do everything without fucking with JSON
> adding a draft/non-public state for homebrew
> helping with object IDs to stop them clashing
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>>98648907
Next time i'm down at the gaming club i'm gonna take some better photos of my heretics now that i have a better camera.
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>>98646802
For me there is no defending the choices of FFI. Only excuses.
I respect those who can still enjoy Trench Crusade despite all that has happened. For me the broken promises are like a loud fly always buzzing in the room that cannot be killed if that makes sense.
Bless CompanionAnon for continuing his website work. I do fear how some elements of the Trench Crusade remaining following would react if he was an active 4chan user knowing this site's reputation. Hopefully he'll be fine.
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>>98646208
Nta but to be fair, when you know you are playing something like that (which you always do) you do account for it.
>shitload
I dno bout that man but some seems entierly fair and reasonable to expect. The legions also have access to incendiary grenades if you want to go down that route.
I will agree that the black grail is kinda unfun to play against though.
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Hello, I would like to play this game. How is the community? I heard it is pro lgbt+... I am a shy trans girl, and I don't want risk to meet unsufferable people.
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>>98648907
I only have unpainted garbage. And posted them all in another TC thread. Whoopz.
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>>98652493
The community is a roughly 50/50 split of muscular racist transphobic chuds with 10 inch dicks and cute trans girls named Lilith with 10 inch dicks.
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>>98652493
Sorry, TC keeps halal, so you'll have to marry one of the other players or be accompanied by your father to be at the store during TC hours.
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>>98652493
very much depends on your FLGS/gaming club i'd say.
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>>98652493
You're the insufferable person most likely
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>>98655297
That's alright paint then up we would love to have them here, it's better than the retard gorilla niggers who reply each other to troll in an effort to farm (you)'s, and posting then unpainted here is alright as well, though less cool visually than with paint.
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did the thing release or are you guys waiting on kickstarter stuff
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>>98657029
Kickstarter stuff released something like 1,5 year ago I think. They produced a few minor releases and recently a big expansion since then (technically the latter was part of KS stretch goals)
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>>98650317
Nice extra touch on the priest. Don't really like how that model usually looks but that skull mask really works
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I just got my hands on models for the heretic legion, and am working on a warband using the basic faction rules (no subfaction). I'm struggling though on what to cut from the Cool Guys, since if I take all of them I am left with two troopers and not enough bodies. I feel like I want more elites early in the campaign to level up sooner but I know I gotta drop something. I'm thinking of dropping the commando but am not sure. For those that have played them, which is the ideal to leave off the roster initially?
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>>98657655
>I feel like I want more elites early in the campaign to level up sooner
This is usually a good mindset
> I'm struggling though on what to cut from the Cool Guys, since if I take all of them I am left with two troopers and not enough bodies.
HL special units are all really damn good, so I would say in case of them having somewhat small numbers early on is acceptable, especially if you're the basic legion, and not ghosts or naval party. But then again, despite what many folks online claim, zerg rush armies almost always fared poorly against smaller warbands of well equipped elites and special units in around 35 games my group has played so far.
>I'm thinking of dropping the commando but am not sure.
Commando is a beast with Tartarus Claws and some decent melee advancements, not so much without them, but still very useful. Don't underestimate the value of infiltrators.

It also kinda depends on what the other players are taking - if you expect to face plenty of heavy armour right from the beginning of the campaign, make sure to take the Witch and the Wolf so you can take them down somewhat reliably. If you expect plenty of firepower or enemies with numerical advantages, Witch and Death Commando are a must have. If you expect melee focused warbands, make sure to take the Chorister.
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>>98657181
Thanks, Here's a better look at him alongside the ghostly chorister.
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>>98657810
>>98657655
This anon has good advice, I mostly play raiders and I typically start my campaign at 7 doods worth a couple troops with smgs and an anointed with heavy flamer. Better doods aren't strictly better than more, but unlike most games heretics in TC are absolutely the elites/specialists faction
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What's a good warband composition if I don't want to use monsters like the witch?
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>>98662618
Just play New Antioch
Unless you don't want sniper priests, clerics and mechanised infantry either in which case I guess go play a historical wargame instead
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>>98662891
NTA, but what if I want a Heretic Legion warband, but for thematic reasons, want to avoid any Pit-born or monstrous infantry?
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>>98663690
>But what if I want to play a faction with tonne of cool and powerful special units, but want to only use boring regular dudes instead?
Then I guess you're welcome to just take as many Annointed as you can and fill the rest of the warband with basic bitch Troopers/Legionnaires, but it's not going to be particularly good or interesting, what else can I tell you?
As long you equip the dudes decently and manage to promote a a few of them into elites early on so that they can get some actually good gear it probably won't be like, unplayable tier awful, but certainly not very good either.

The whole point of Antioch as a "regular human" faction is that they have their fireteam rule that allows said regular dudes to actually kill shit reliably
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I want to run a TC RPG where players are communicants tearing through hordes of demons and heretics, Doom vibes basically. What system do you recommend?
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>>98663979
I just want to see if Tuomas is gonna make a larger scale version of TC. Where tanks get involved and monsters fight alongside and against them.
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>>98646552
this is some 40tard levels of delusion
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>>98636451
>ai slop
op fucking kill yourself
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>>98647462
It's always this exact same response to this exact same post..

Smells like samefag
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>>98667969
Why are you such a hater bro?
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>>98663690
Naval Raiders is your answer.
They can't get a war wolf, they can only get a max of 2 Heavy Annointed, which are still mostly human.

The chorister was a human... They just cut off their own head in ritual suicide. But you could flavor them still having a head.

The only unit that is a real denizen of hell is the artillery witch... And she's awesome.
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Hey Trench Companion anon
I saw that most of the new Naval Raider and Sacred Affliction Models didnt have photos because you were looking for some. I painted up my Carcass Front set and took some in front of this backdrop. I hope these may be of some use.

Sacred:
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>>98669773
Raiders
I apologize for my Iphones camera quality but I hope these still show up well
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>>98646552
No it's actually banned because of the Sydney video.
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I could not give less of a fuck over naval whatever subfactions where the FUCK is my beast faction already?
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Does Trench Crusade have funny little guys
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>>98670556
No.
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>>98670556
Yes
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>>98670556
we got a crab holding a grenade
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>>98670622
That model and faction don't exist thoughbeit.
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>>98665112
I made dnd 3rd ed into a goofball murder campaign with relative ease.

Alternatively, make your own, lightweight game with video game stats (health, armor, weapon stats, and temporary buffs). Drop the classes and make it about gear and upgrades, drop the dice as the core outcome media and make it about action economy and how players choose to lose health and armor.
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can someone make a general without ai garbage?
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>>98668390
AI slop is the antithesis of this hobby, fuck you and go fuck yourself
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>>98671960
AI slop reminds me of that old neurosis where you'd make a joke and nobody laughed but then Chad makes the same joke louder and everyone cheers. Except with slop engines you're just telling Chad what jokes to make in your place on purpose. Peak cuckoldry.
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>>98670838
>we got a crab holding a grenade
Return to crab
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>>98674053
I need like 40 of those just piled in a heap on a 35mm base.
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Dead thread
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>98674400
more like braindead anon
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>>98671960
Aren't you being a bit dramatic?
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>>98674053
Church of metamorphosis goes to war
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>>98648907
first of my HL Warbands
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>>98675996
Second one
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>>98675996
>>98675997
Nice work anon. They look ready to spread mischief and mayhem.
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>>98665112
4e D&D catches the big damn heroes demolishing lessers and heroically fighting the lords of evil.
CotD Promethean captures hellish creatures fighting for their reason to be in a tortuous existence, and has a lot of room for strange capacities. Deviant as well for the same, if lower in scale.
>>98651363
>I do fear how some elements of the Trench Crusade remaining following would react if he was an active 4chan user knowing this site's reputation
It's a big nothingburger. The end product is what matters.
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>>98677239
>It's a big nothingburger.
>the community mgmt with mass bans on behalf of a simulated indie game made by a marketing company won't care about 4chan's optics
lol
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>>98651363
>I do fear how some elements of the Trench Crusade remaining following would react if he was an active 4chan user knowing this site's reputation
They know. It is a known fact on the discord and no one gives a shit.
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>>98677478
Nah, you've just shifted to not engaging to pretend its not happening.
Its a late stage technique. You've got a solid enough base consumer so you're not rocking that by starting shit, you're into captive audience management now.
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>>98677374
>>98677525
You are free to show otherwise.
You won't, because you are just shitposting again.
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So saints are at least as powerful as paladins if Joan of Arc fucked up one of the Black Grail hegemons. How many humans become saints?
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>>98680634
I think lot of TC saints are martyrs. I doubt there are many living theosis achieved saints running around.
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Why do so many stores not let people play TC?
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>>98683445
Can you post 1 (one) example of this?
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>>98651363
>>98677525
very funny having people talk about me, still haven't gotten used to it (or people using 'sir' in emails like im a nobleman)
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Hi, first poster here. I played my first game of TC and really enjoyed, used my friend's stosstruppen, and now I'm making a BG list with what I had bought, is it a good warband compo ?

## Les Suceurs de Belzébuth ##

Faction: Cult of the Black Grail
Rating: 696 Ducats | 0 Glory
Patron: None

## Elites ##

Plague Knight - 155D
Upgrades & Choices: Knight Companion of the Fly
Battlekit: Beelzebub's Axe, Black Grail Shield, Reinforced Armour

Corpse Guard - 92D
Battlekit: Putrid Shotgun, Plague Blade, Gas Grenades

Corpse Guard - 82D
Battlekit: Plague Blade, Gas Grenades, Trench Shield

## Troops ##

Amalgam - 172D
Battlekit: Putrid Shotgun, Greatsword / Axe

Hounds of the Black Grail - 60D
Upgrades & Choices: Infested Carcasses

Hounds of the Black Grail - 60D
Upgrades & Choices: Infested Carcasses

Fly Thrall - 25D

Grail Thrall - 25D

Grail Thrall - 25D

## Stash ##

Stashed Ducats: 4
Unspent Glory: 0
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>>98686593
I would try to squeeze in at least basic armour for your Corpse Guards, having 2 or especially 3 armour points instead of o or 1 really does increase survivability by quite a lot
Also I would try to at least give some basic ranged weapon to the Knight - Grail is melee focused, but being able to soften the enemy with firearms before you get to engage them helps a lot
Amalgam, as it currently is in the rulebook, honestly isn't that good and I probably wouldn't take it for the very beginning of the campaign. However, the devs plan to rebalance him quite a lot and the new version is already available as a test rule preview, if your group is okay with using those (in my opinion all of them are pretty good) I would definitely use that version of Amalgam instead. It would also free up a bit of your budget
https://www.trenchcrusade.com/trench-wire/rules/amalgam-and-strains-rules-update/
Heralds are also handy units to have, but well, you can't squeeze everything in there right away

Have fun Anon, infect the hell out of them!
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>>98687003
Oh yeah those new rules look cool, thanks. Do you know when they plan to roll them out ?

I made an alt list more elite like you suggested, knight and guards are all tanky, and the knight can shoot, looks also fun:

## Les Suceurs de Belzébuth ##

Faction: Cult of the Black Grail
Rating: 689 Ducats | 0 Glory
Patron: None

## Elites ##

Plague Knight - 195D
Upgrades & Choices: Knight Companion of the Fly
Battlekit: Putrid Shotgun, Beelzebub's Axe, Compound Eyes Helmet, Black Grail Shield, Gas Grenades, Reinforced Armour

Corpse Guard - 152D
Battlekit: Putrid Shotgun, Plague Blade, Compound Eyes Helmet, Gas Grenades, Reinforced Armour, Trench Shield

Corpse Guard - 122D
Battlekit: Plague Blade, Gas Grenades, Reinforced Armour, Trench Shield

## Troops ##

Hounds of the Black Grail - 60D
Upgrades & Choices: Infested Carcasses

Hounds of the Black Grail - 60D
Upgrades & Choices: Infested Carcasses

Fly Thrall - 25D

Grail Thrall - 25D

Grail Thrall - 25D

Grail Thrall - 25D

## Stash ##

Stashed Ducats: 11
Unspent Glory: 0
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>>98684284
Outside the bullshit, the actual people who play the game appreciate you, bro.
You are a reminder, for me, of the good ol' days where people did shit on this board, like Chapter Master.
>>98687098
I can attest to the efficiency of shield and shotgun. Makes even my azebs worthwhile, albeit costly to run around foolishly.
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>>98636451
TRAAANCH CRUSAAAADE!!!***

*Tranches not included
*L-ruins and soi faces are
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>>98684284
I dub thee Sir Companionon, favored of heaven and hell, squasher of bugs, lord of css, doer of deeds, begeter of updates, and master of custom solutions

There now you are a knight in truth go forth and spread the glory of trench crusade
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Dead thread
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>>98684284
Mr Companion Anon, think any of my models can fill up your remaining empty model pictures?
>>98669773
>>98669793
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>>98695138
Could ya send it to me via email with any links/credit? Theres a page on the site for how to send info.

What I'm looking for most rn is group shots.
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How to Great Hunger?
Matagot Hag, 2 Butcher knights, Gula Gregory and 4 thralls

Any advice in the list or tactics insurance
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>>98683445
>>98683536
An lgs has near me sold itself to trading card games only so no trench crusade by proxy of no miniature wargames anymore. I hope the Pokémon scalping craze wrecks it somehow.
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>>98697154
You're a melee faction that's more about board control than killing. A better zombie apocalypse faction than base grail, really
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>>98636473
>I'm still here and hoping.
Same here lmao. Genuinely heartbreaking seeing what happened. TC is barely mentioned in the LGS Discord server where I am nowadays.
>>98637391
>What happened?
I'm going to assume you are being genuine and not a troll feigning ignorance.
Here is a good spot that highlights the things.
https://web.archive.org/web/20260626020847/https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Trench_Crusade#Controversies
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>>98703077
>https://web.archive.org/web/20260626020847/https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Trench_Crusade#Controversies
nta but am I supposed to care ? It sounds like discord drama bullshit. I'm not in high school sorry
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>>98703077
The only big problem is the STL support and shift to plastic models. While the plastic models are good in their own rights, it's true it's a change of paradigm in what they promised early on.
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>>98703077
>discord drama and whining that business is not run like a charity
K
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I think I found a treasure trove, if someone needs theme fitting stl files. Especially for those who play the court.
https://cults3d.com/en/design-collections/kaucukovnik/diablo-i-ii
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>>98703136
>>98703159
I legitimately can't tell if it is weird archtrolls pretending to be ignorant/dumb TC fans or genuine TC fans. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging company fuckups. Not worshipping a company as infallible is a thing that separates /awg/tists for Warhammertards
>>98703150
For me the change of paradigm (the prussian prices got me) was like the Animal Farm first sign when the milk was gone foreshadowing negative change. I sometimes scour here and other forums looking for posts that acknowledge the Factory Fortress Fuckups. I was a pretty ardent defender even in the face of facts, but I came around.
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>>98703926
I'm not defending the company, my only TC interaction so far is playing the game, which was fun, and getting my pre order minis, which I got.
I also bought more minis from etsy, so I don't care about the stosstruppen much, and as far as I know you're free to proxy them as well with whatever you want so...
Now of course in the future if the company starts going after third parties and making me pay 10 bucks a bottle of paint like GW I will stop buying anything from them, just like I'm already doing from GW, but we're still pretty fucking far.
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>>98704094
Check the "Broken Promises, or "How to Speedrun Being Little Jimmy Studio" section of the archive link.
Allegedly uses Brandshield that supposedly GW uses to smack around Etsy and STLs.
The strosstruppen prices are annoying because Tuomas was saying things about wanting the game to be financially accessible. Which means even the plastics have to reflect this and not be cheap by "Gw standards" excuses. Not everybody has the space for a printer and Etsy sellers are hit and miss.
Maybe this ignorance you're showing (assuming you aren't a troll larper) is how Warhammer fans enjoy Warhammer. By just shutting their ears and and blindfolding the fuckups a company is making...
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>>98704175
I'm not gonna defend the pricing and you're right to complain, just like I'm not defending GW's shitty pricings. I'm a reseller/recaster adept and no longer buy anything directly from GW. I don't see how I could not do the same thing with TC
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>>98704094
>Now of course in the future if the company starts going after third parties and making me pay 10 bucks a bottle of paint like GW I will stop buying anything from them
This has always been the plan. Tuomas Pirinen works as Chief Creative Officer at multinational game marketing leverage firm Reforged Studios.
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>>98703926
No one is forced to agree on severity of those mishaps, or even conside them as such.
The list begins with Discord drama, which is very gay. Faggot got booted, big deal. We've had a plague of those here too, sadly they didn't get the boot.
Stls and pricing? They have told on interviews that they need something for the stores, which are the community hub for wargames. The plastic sculpting and manufacture cost a lot, especially when they don't want to do it in China. The kickstarter stls are still purchasable, promise was made before they knew they would create a company. You still have third party models you're allowed to use. They might become like GW, but any business in the niche will become similar. You thought they would overcome the challenges of the market by becoming something different. The brandshield? They need to strike those down, because otherwise someone else sells their products, and they can't make money. AI apparently was trigger happy, but not really TC dev teams fault, they didn't code it.
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>>98637061
The correct way, which is flail+automatic pistol with Incindiary ammo. With two flaming shots and two melee attacks, you get the ability to apply six blood markers in a single activation, which is pretty damn good
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Thinking of getting into TC with Court of the Seven-Headed Serpent. Should I get yoke fiends or hellknights to start?
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>>98703077
I don't even play trench crusade but I'm over halfway through and it's all just discord drama, not even "they didn't deliver kickstarter stuff" just someone making a comment about Aztecs or women or the map being bad. Goddamn you guys sound like faggots.
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>>98706090
Court is getting a major overhaul in October, so I can't really say. The faction is generally ELITE and tall-focused, so you might want to lean more towards Hell Knight models at the moment. Keep in mind the game is also model agnostic so you can just b urself as long as you and your opponent are cool with your models
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what happened to the jews in trench crusade?
Are there any dramatis personae rabbis?
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>>98706918
There are a couple of lore tidbits and campaign exploration events that mention golems and kabbala. The hebrew knights are also a planned faithful faction
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>>98706918
Would be really ballsy to have them get front page presentation instead of crumbs that have to be searched for in lore.
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>>98706090
Definitely Hellknights, they're a great unit and they're elite, so you want them to start gaining xp as soon as possible.
Yoke Fiends are pretty mediocre fodder, I only really start buying them once I run out of other cool shit I could invest in
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>>98706090
Grab yourself a praetor/sorcerer and 2 Hellknights (3 if you aren't going for a Hunter of the Left Handed Path) and kit them out before setting points aside for yoke fiends and wretches. The fiends are mostly just blood generators feeding off of whipping your wretches.
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Is the lore good yet or is it still nonsensical not thought out bullshit hard carried by concept art?
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>>98711161
Its good, but its also absurd and rides heavily on vibes.
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Got back to uni on the weekend and hit up the gaming stores today, one of them has an entire section dedicated to TC in the back with multiple hooks for the diffferent resin models and they seem to be selling well
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>>98711992
Nobody believes you lol
Pics or it didn't happen
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This whole project annoys me, I love the aesthetics and a lot of the minis but so much of the presentation is half-assed in a way that offends me. Why is all the lore contained in articles on the website (no short stories, no codex-style collections of faction lore), why is there no comprehensive list of official minis. And why are you being Jews less than 2 years into release, any tech bro can tell you you need to wait a while longer before you start raising prices and being a shithead. It feels like the entire project was just about turning cool concept art into cool minis (well, I don't know about the rules, they might be good) and noone really gave a shit about the less sexy business and lore stuff.
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>>98711992
I’ve noticed a lot more people playing TC at my LGS as well. It’s a fun game, and it being model agnostic is a selling point for a lot of people.
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Gonna start a campaign soon, planning to use Papal State Intervention force. I built a sketch of my army:

Warband [493 Ducats, 10 Glory Points] (New Antioch)

• Warband Variant: Papal States Intervention Force
NAME ROLE GLORY POINTS OPTIONS
Lieutenant Elite 1
Sniper Priest Elite
Sniper Priest Elite
Trench Cleric Elite 2
Yeoman Troop
Communicant Anti-Tank Hunter Mercenary 5
Mendelist Ammo Monk Mercenary 2
Trench Dog Mercenary

Any thoughts or tips from veterans?
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>>98714059
Hard to say anything since we don't know how you equipped your dudes - it's very important, especially for NA
The overall lineup looks sensible, but do remember that you can also turn mercenaries into elites now (a very good idea in case of most of them), so consider taking one sniper priest less to free up the spot. Also, the dogs honestly aren't very good, but since Papal States don't have to worry about GP that much, maybe you could make them actually work with that variant.

As for overall tips, you're playing a low numbers, high quality faction, so you're almost certainly going to be outgunned and un-activated, even more so if you'll make frequent use of fireteams. Make sure that each of your activations count. Use concentrated fire to pick out key enemy targets. Use terrain and cover wisely to minimise loses. Consider investing in an altar to be safe from morale checks. Make good use of your Lieutenant's ability to waste the activations of crucial enemy models. Try hunting down merchants in exploration phase to spend your extra glory points on those neat campaign items.
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>>98711992
>>98713439
Bot posts?
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>>98704482
Tranch jannies do it for free.
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Made a dirge list with 5 Elites. Want to get a 3rd Corpse Guard and then thrall spam.

Faction: Dirge of the Great Hegemon
Rating: 700 Ducats | 0 Glory
Patron: None

## Elites ##

Executor - 176D
Knight of the Rotten Cross
Sniper Rifle, Trench Club, Trench Club, Compound Eyes Helmet, Reinforced Armour

Plague Knight - 155D
Knight Companion of the Fly
Great Hammer/Maul, Combat Helmet, Grail Devotee, Gas Grenades, Reinforced Armour, Trench Shield

Plague Knight - 155D
Knight Companion of the Fly
Great Hammer/Maul, Combat Helmet, Grail Devotee, Gas Grenades, Reinforced Armour, Trench Shield

Corpse Guard - 107D
Polearm, Compound Eyes Helmet, Gas Grenades, Standard Armour, Trench Shield

Corpse Guard - 107D
Polearm, Compound Eyes Helmet, Gas Grenades, Standard Armour, Trench Shield

Gonna upgrade armor to Reinforced on the guards too.
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>>98706918
One of the 5 announced future factions are the Hebrew Knights, which will be a Jewish faithful faction. Very little is known about them beyond that.
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These dudes are massive. Besides me opponent being alright with it, is there any issue with burning them all up a base size? Raiders on 32mm's and the Anointed on a 40mm
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>>98714684
see
>>98704358
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>there are faggots that lurk this thread to poopoo a tabletop game they don’t like
Man, I genuinely thank God I’m not a disabled retard like that.
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>>98716484
>so mad they got caught they can't even link the post
lol
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>retard comes out of the woodwork to deflect and shriek some more
lel
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>>98714684
>>98716428
God I wish i was getting paid to interact with you faggots
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>>98715368
You will need to keep track of their "real" base size, since many abilities and mechanics in the game have base-size conditionals.
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I know damn well I don't have time to paint minis. My paints probably aren't even still usable. But damnit I wanna consooooooom.
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>>98716915
Even better you could try getting paid to do something totally different and then stop coming here altogether
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>>98651363
Concerntrolling faggot
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I'm not completely sold on the game yet, but I think the artillery witch is a very cool concept for a character.
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>>98718834
Please don't validate the troll belief of every post that isn't positive of Trench Crusade being from a troll.
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>>98719670
What would sell you on it?
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>>98723258
>What would sell you on it?
Probably a faction of hot chicks, or nazis, or both.
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>>98644658
Titty models seem hard to justify in a basically public setting.
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>>98724669
Only in the united prude states of cuckmerica.
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>>98724669
There is one (1) official female model with bare breasts Anon and even then it's covered in shittonne of blood on the artwork and has an alternative, clothed version
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Also posting my WIP HMI here.

Thoughts on the 'radio rigging' idea? Big ol' land battleships should be able to communicate with wireless over a long distance imo.
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>>98717974
Aw christ. Can't I measure from center of model?
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>>98724975
I think Anon meant that there is a bunch of abilities with rules like "all models on bases smaller than 40mm get pushed back by the explosion" or "this weapon is more effective against targets with base size larger than X". Stuff like that. So you will need to keep the intended size in mind.. For the measurements themselves, I don't think it really matters that much, having a bigger base is honestly probably more detrimental than beneficial anyway
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Done with my second infractor. I made the skin too pale to my taste and the picture makes it even more saturated lmao, but I don't want to touch it anymore
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>>98725111
Cool mini, but wrong thread my sibling in Slaanesh
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>>98725121
Aww fuck my bad
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>>98658125
That chorister is so sick!
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>>98725433
Thanks! She hasn't seen any gametime yet but hopefully I'll be able to get a league going soon at my local gaming club
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>>98657810
>>98659800
Okay, coming back late but this was the list I was looking at running. I definitely want to get a commando and that would likely be my first recruit after the first game, so far I only know one of the other guys is gonna be running Court but I don't know what his warband will have. I'll post the other variant of the list as well which was more troopers; if anyone can tell me if it seems like I'm way off base let me know.

Heretic Legion - The Brimstone Brigade (1) - [700 Ducats]

## Elite [222 Ducats]
Chorister [113 Ducats]: Sacrificial Blade [23 Ducats], Trench Shield [10 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats]
Heretic Priest [109 Ducats]: Puppet Master, Sword/Axe [4 Ducats], Gas Grenades [10 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats]

## Troop [478 Ducats]
Anointed Heavy Infantry [120 Ducats]: Automatic Shotgun [15 Ducats], Great Hammer/Maul [10 Ducats], Infernal Brand, Reinforced Armour
Artillery Witch [110 Ducats]: Trench Shield [10 Ducats]
Legionnaire [52 Ducats]: Legionnaire [10 Ducats] (Ranged), Bolt-Action Rifle [12 Ducats] (Bayonet [2 Ducats])
Heretic Trooper [51 Ducats]: Pistol [6 Ducats], Musical Instrument [15 Ducats]
War Wolf Assault Beast [145 Ducats]
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>>98726154
And the variant list (also can anyone speak to if it is ever worth it to make a trooper into a melee legionnaire? It feels like it is just always inadvisable, unless maybe you give him a shield too and that's kinda going too all-in on just a mook)

Heretic Legion - The Brimstone Brigade - [700 Ducats]

## Elite [232 Ducats]
Chorister [113 Ducats]: Sacrificial Blade [23 Ducats], Trench Shield [10 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats]
Heretic Priest [119 Ducats]: Puppet Master, Sword/Axe [4 Ducats], Trench Shield [10 Ducats], Gas Grenades [10 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats]

## Troop [468 Ducats]
Artillery Witch [125 Ducats]: Trench Shield [10 Ducats], Standard Armour [15 Ducats]
Legionnaire [53 Ducats]: Pistol [6 Ducats], Frag Grenades [7 Ducats], Legionnaire [10 Ducats] (Ranged)
Heretic Trooper [51 Ducats]: Pistol [6 Ducats], Musical Instrument [15 Ducats]
Heretic Trooper [42 Ducats]: Bolt-Action Rifle [12 Ducats] (Bayonet [2 Ducats])
Legionnaire [52 Ducats]: Legionnaire [10 Ducats] (Ranged), Shotgun [12 Ducats] (Bayonet [2 Ducats])
War Wolf Assault Beast [145 Ducats]
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>>98724904
Not true, the great hunger hag also has titties out. Also the praetor has one boob, and the flamer model of the anointed has one boob with nipple on her armor
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Well. Even going halves with someone this is probably a bit much. I hope they get an actual Australian distributer for the plastic minis at some point.
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>>98725063
WYSIWYG 2.0

WYBIWYG
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>>98636451
AI slop is fitting for the company that tried to run GW's pockets and steal their lunch money, only to fail utterly because they did it too soon. Astroturfed rich money corporate scumfucks, no different to GW themselves. Rest in piss.
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i need more alchemist art, and suggestions for good base models to kitbash homunculi out of
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>>98725063
Oh, whatever, then. The models have listed base sizes on the book.
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>>98728877
Kike.
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>The 28 Discord server is unofficial, and while the moderators there are our friends and we trust them to make correct decisions, Factory Fortress will not be officially commenting on their actions. We'll also be making an official Trench Crusade server (with a strict "no politics" rule).
>Gee Mike, thank god we found that guy on FIverr to check out stl files over and fix all the horrific problems with them, that could have been bad.
>Hearing your feedback, we'll be changing the Community License to be less punitive. Going forward, any license-user can use Trench Crusade iconography and terminology provided they clearly state that their works are unofficial, and aren't ripping complete designs from us.
>Of course, we'll continue providing some stl files for as long as is practical, though they won't have all the customisation options that a multi-part plastic kit can provide.
Ah, what could have been... I hope they can rebrand a bit and recover with the plastics range refresh, all the stuff in the Carcass Front box is great especially the raider captain and the big nigga. I wish they'd put pictures of the sprues up like GeeDubs does though.
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>>98728877
Lmao fuck off retard
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>>98645165

Afaik, yes Naval raiders will be sold in boxes, it seems the team wants to model and sell NR-themed Artillery witches

Same for Sacred afliction,
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>>98732314
>Sprues.
A lot of youtubers have reviews that showcase the sprews. Rogue Hobbies, iirc, does a whole unpacking and painting (and isn't a pretentious basedboy or a shit hobbyist).

>Rebrand and recover.
Maybe. But honestly, I don't care if it never gets popular. TC's primary draw is that it's grimdark religious horror made by certain people for certain people, and not toned down so wider audiences can stand it. While more games would be cool, rebranding to appeal to the masses runs contrary to what makes TC great.
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Played my second game yesterday, three players. It was quite fun. Stosstruppen player had a bit of hard time but he managed to make a mine explode which blew three models away, pretty fun
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>>98733982
>rebranding to appeal to the masses runs contrary to what makes TC great.
I meant their PR and business stuff, not the tone or the content of the game. I don't think the grimdark or the body horror is nearly as normie-repulsive as you think, if anything the normies think its cool and autists like me want more WW1 military shit.
>for certain people
Yeah, chuds, who they then told to leave. It's frustrating because I know the game should have more momentum and positive energy behind it but there's just a missing chunk of people that should be pushing the series and were scared off too early. Feels like going into battle and realising an entire flank of your army has fucked off. /rant.
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>>98734162
You mistake things.

There's no need to 'push the series' with artificial spikes of money. That's not stable business, it's like dousing a houseplant in water to make it grow faster, when it's already ticking along. They didn't beg people to stop donating at the end of the kickstarter for altruism's sake.

And it's not meant to be some chud-coded, counter-culture 40k expy either.
It's meant to be it's own thing, truly regardless of culture war side.
I know a lot of people got upset that they weren't allowed to talk politics on the discord, but they all agreed to the 'no politics' rule to get in. At that stage, it's just filtering for lack of self control.

I mean, they didn't even get told "you cannot play Trench Crusade", they just got kicked from a discord server. Not like they were the only ones.
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Finally got the box after it got stuck in Warehouse limbo for 3 weeks. Fuck philpost, should have use a freight forwarder instead
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whats the best place to read the lore thats not fanfiction?
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>>98734934
on their website
https://www.trenchcrusade.com/lore/
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>>98646552
Do you just pride yourself on making shit up in every thread you go into, Fishfag?
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>>98734314
>And it's not meant to be some chud-coded, counter-culture 40k expy either.
>It's meant to be it's own thing, truly regardless of culture war side.
>I know a lot of people got upset that they weren't allowed to talk politics on the discord, but they all agreed to the 'no politics' rule to get in. At that stage, it's just filtering for lack of self control.
This.
The actual issue that you could claim would be on the production end, which a lot of fans are prepared to offer grace because the guys behind this are the artsy sort, not logistic workers.
The moment someone brings up any culture war or online nonsense is the moment you know they are just talking shit.
Even talking about actual issues is a problem, because the well has been so poisoned by shitposters and liars that you have to scrutinize any statement made.
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>>98734314
Except the "No politics" rule was always just a lie to be able to ban chuds over nothing meanwhile allowing their own side to spread their message under the guise of "but lgbtq+ is not political"

They're just fucking hypocrits and liars, nobody takes TC serious.
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>>98739030
>but lgbtq+ is not political
I do think agreeing that human rights should apply to all humans, no matter what race, creed or sexuality they are isn't political. It's called "being a decent human being".
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>>98739179
That belief originates from blank-slatism, it is political, and it is factually wrong.
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>>98739179
LGBTQ fags insisting on basic human rights is some real animal farm shit

>all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
>So under the guise of promoting basic human rights we only promote our retarded ingroup and demonise everyone else
Anyone falling for that shit is a complete brainlet
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>>98739277
And as soon as you point out this blatant hypocrisy they inevitably fall back on
>but muh paradox of intolerance
thinking they are being slick but failing to understand its just rationalization for their own bigotry and inevitably serves as an invitation for an identity politics free for all that destroys society
which btw they are now losing since all patience with their retardation has long since evaporated and everyone normal is sick an tired of their degeneracy and hypocrisy
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>>98739179
I actually think believing in a rights framework and in a fairly hardline version of egalitarianism is quite a distinct, parochial, and above all recent political opinion, that has prevailed almost exclusively in the West almost exclusively in the past 60 years. Virtually nobody outside of the west or the past 60 years would think any part of that makes the slightest sense.
It's healthy to remind yourself that apparent "obvious" views that "decent people" "all" have are typically nothing of the sort.
Self-evidently the lives of my non-family are nearly worthless to me, let alone the lives of foreigners, cripples, mental defectives, etc.; that's a perfectly normal calibration that would be totally intelligible to (for instance) a Confucian. As far as I'm concerned insinuating that my life is equivalent to that of a drooling spastic is an outrageous and immoral allegation. You should apologize, really.
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>>98739330
Thats because egalitarianism is a peak civilization very few have societes have reached.
However all good things must come to an end, as its weakness is being exploited by bad actors the west will gradually degrade back towards the more sustainable level other less civilized countries run at.
Its pretty much a golden goose story
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>>98739407
>its a golden goose story
The one where it lays golden eggs but in their greed to squeeze out more eggs they kill it
Not the one with the feathers
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>>98739407
I can't think of a single worthwhile civilization that was egalitarian.
Greeks: slave society
Romans: slave society
British Empire at its peak: Strictly class & racially divided society
Edo Japan: Strict class society
Golden age China (Song/Tang): Strict class & racially segregated society
Peak era South Africa: Apartheid
Peak era USA: 1950's Segregation

Literally can't think of 1 example actually
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>>98739431
>egalitarianism prevailed almost exclusively in the west amost exclusively in the past 60 years
>I can't think of any worthile civilisation that was egalitarian
>Continues to list a bunch of empires from centuries ago
Yeh I wonder why
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>>98739470
the last 60 years have seen Europe lose all its colonies and the USA cede its global dominance to China. It's a period of total decline for the West, any way you look at it.
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>>98739179
>I don't think my ideological conditioning is political
lol
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>>98739575
Equating civilization peak with amount of land is retarded. Unless you want to imply that shitholes like India Russia and China are peak
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>>98739939
He probably is russian or indian. There's been a huge influx of russian and indian users since the russian invasion of ukraine. Mainly on /k/, /pol/ and /b/ mind, but some probably have spilled over to other boards.
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>>98739431
>Peak era USA: 1950's Segregation
Amusingly, the US and their inability to get over their race classism is why they never took advantage of AFRI-COM and allowed the Chinese to monopolize the continent's resources.
America becoming a 2nd tier nation because of it's own racist culture will never stop being amusing.
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Has anyone scanned the new book yet?
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>>98739179
>being a decent human being
this kike shit hasn't worked for a decade now, kill yourself nigger faggot troon
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>>98740338
>Just be a decent human being and set next to that completely mentally stable black gentlemen on the bus please
>Get stabbed to death for literally no reason
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>>98740298
Everybody who got on in the kickstarter got digital versions so that probably is out there somewhere
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>>98670622
That's an amalgam for the Black Grail
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>>98741645
>he doesn't know
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>>98636451
>AI slop thread thumbnail
You guys are losers, even more for playing this crap.
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>>98741884
(you) really have to stop being such a fag about this
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>>98744781
Remember to tell your manager there's a limited time effectiveness to
>guerrilla marketing
before hawthorn effect tanks it. Once your job is a loss leader for long enough you'll get shifted to a different project or cut all together.
Worse if you were doing it to a favour to your boss to try and gain good boy points. They don't care about you.
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>>98744781
It isn't just one guy dunking on you, Tuomas. You are a poser and a massive faggot.
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Ignore all tourists and concern trolls
Here's my War Priest Charon kitbash. Just need some uhu glue for the gore and a few more decorative bits
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>>98745710
>Just need some uhu glue for the gore
Just wait for the trapped resin to pop, lol.
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>>98745736
This is plastic
Low effort bait
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>>98745701
Its sad how this dude could legitimately have been hailed as a hero of tabletop gaming if only his grandstanding promises about TC actually materialised.

>No walled garden for rich people
>No political pandering
>People's History deserves respect
>Community first
>Customers deserve quality product
>Open Community License to support indies
>We don't care about making money

I would have even overlooked the platform shoes. Instead he turned out to be a treacherous greedy woke goblin that deserves to be ridiculed for the remainder of his life
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>>98745869
He was a former executive at EA and Ubisoft. There was no way TC was going to have a happy ending.

>>98745779
The game quite literally blew up in your face.
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>>98741884
kill yourself fag, ai garbage has no fucking place on /tg/
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>>98745970
Let me guess you spend your time on r*ddit and play the geedubs garbage
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>>98741132
Fuck, I late pledged for the rulebook
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>>98746475
You cannot read English, mongoloid.

>>98746482
Fuck Jew Workshop, and fuck your Reddit-tier game too.
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>>98746475
>>98746482
>one minute apart
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IMAGINE being such a gay retard loser you lurk the general of a wargame you hate on a dying site because no other community can tolerate you kwab
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>>98747315
You are projecting and it is painfully obvious, Tuomas.
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>>98745970
>He was a former executive at EA and Ubisoft. There was no way TC was going to have a happy ending.
This. It was a conjob from the start. Guy's upper level marketing goon for some bullshit international firm now. Really explains how TC was astroturfed here so hard when it came out.
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>>98747315
Don't feed the troll(s) you retard.
They're just mad because they tried to force space kangz like TC was 'forced' and everyone's pointing out how they got scammed for a stupid amount of money for a product they'll never use.
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>>98747315
lurking?
No, I actively shitpost
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>>98748454
But the reality is TC did really scam their customers

Perhaps SpaceKing will eventually do the same thing, but so far there is no proof of that so you can just shut your retarded mouth until then
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>>98748454
>like TC was forced and everyone's pointing out how they got scammed for a stupid amount of money for a product they'll never use.
Fixed.
Guy works for these dipshits, of course Trench Crusade was spammed here. Its always been a scam. You're just mad you got caught. Remember to cycle your grifts, no amount of your bullshit will actually achieve
>By doing this we help grow their success in a sustainable way that avoids the “boom & bust” cycles developers often face on their own.
That's part of the sales pitch to companies. Stop drinking you own koolaid.
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Carcass front arrived, time to start a new campaign, just gotta get a few terrain pieces done
Also fuck me this threads desperately needs jannies, the tourism has gotten insufferable
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>>98745710
Based, I've been thinking about getting into heretics, Dirge had been pure cbt
How fun are they?
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>>98749850
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Just do what we used to do before /tg/ had jannies: ridicule the trolls into either A going away, or B: behave
Sometimes that even resulted in memorable memes and/or new /tg/ characters
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>>98749671
>Tuomas: "TC has no traditional marketing guys, its all grassroots from the community"

Meanwhile

They're just snakes at every level
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How would one go about making standard heretic troopers look more appropriate as a Mammon-aligned warband outside of just painting their armor gold? Coins dangling from their webbing/belts? Pouches stuffed with loot?
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>>98750129
Fat stacks of cash, violet silky fabric, jewish symbols, enlarged noses
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>>98750008
The trolls are too mentally retarded to realize they're being made fun of these days
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>>98750129
Fancy helmets
Gemstones
Elaborate patterns or animal hides painted on capes and/or uniforms
Scriptures with contracts
Coins
Pretty much any fancy looking ornaments and bits you can find
>>98749850
Friends from my group caved in and bought the box at a recent convention. We're still only 40% done with our current campaign though, so it will have to wait a bit. Haven't even unboxed it yet.
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>>98750211
>Elaborate patterns or animal hides painted on capes and/or uniforms
Hair Metal Heretics would go hard
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>>98750211
>Friends from my group caved in and bought the box at a recent convention. We're still only 40% done with our current campaign though, so it will have to wait a bit. Haven't even unboxed it yet.
Damn, wish we had wargaming conventions here, lucky
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>>98750070
Yep. Rugpull

So happy the SK kickstarter bodied this scam
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>98750638
keep astroturfing your garbage boardgame clowns, no one cares, it's not even a wargame, let alone a skirmish one
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>>98750627
Not really a wargaming convention, just a generic fantasy/popculture/anime/vidya/RPG/wargaming/boardgames/everything-else-nerdy kind of con. A relatively big one though.
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>>98744813
>favour
The opinion of bongistan citizens is not valued
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>>98745736
Are people really still trying to force this meme?
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>>98747315
Genuinely, it's the most insecure fags that think anything that isn't muh speece muhreens is a threat to James Sweatshop ever not having massive market dominance.
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>>98748718
>Did really scam
Releasing shit slowly is annoying but not a scam.
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>>98751295
the discord troons have been regurgitating the same shit for a year now and it's not going to stop untill jannies start doing their job
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>>98636451
>AI Generated OP
No wonder you lost to a shitpost of a flash cartoon.
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>>98751352
You knuckle dragging sped, TC is itself a Discord cult.
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>>98750129
Make them look extravagant. Furs, gems, jewellery and bags full of loot.

Lately I've been thinking how loyal to ww1 aesthetic should minis be, to retain the trench warfare vibe.
Especially when muses gave inspiration to create heretic legion warband with knight aesthetic. Since serpent head of wrath is referred as she, I thought of knights who have Apollyon as their lady. Since cult of the virgin, and adoration of Mary was popular among the knightly class.
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>>98750129
Give them kippahs, payots, hunched backs, and six-pointed stars on their clothes. They can be lead by Tuomas Pirinen.
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>>98751613
none in my local lgfs use trannycord and we've been getting into TC pretty hard
cope tourist
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>>98751902
>pretty hard

You mean the cock in your mouth?
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>>98751613
>>98752019
Neck yourself tertiary tourist
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>>98751613
Never used it and I just primed my models last week, tourist.
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>>98750907
Sounds nice
Nerd shit here is still treated like it's some sort of disease, we have way too many elderly ghouls for society to move past the 1960s
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>>98752289
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>>98751284
>has no reply
>getting outed as marketing team
>I know! Vowels!
lmao
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>>98756055
That's rough. Are you from the Balkans or outside of NA/Europe? Because I'm from Slavlands and even here this sort of thing has been increasingly normalised for a long time now, with first cons dating all the way back to even the late USSR days and first somewhat big ones in late 00s
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Can jannies ban the faggot shitting up every TC thread already
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>>98756324
Chewsday, innit? You got a loicense for that retardation?
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>>98757942
Every TC thread is advertising so they'd have to get on that too.
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>>98748454
Nta, but I really had high hopes for TC. Glad I didn't back the kickstarter now.

It wasn't forced at the beginning but they sure did fuck the dog.
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>>98750129
Wearing rags, barefoot with barely-working rifles. They don't GET the loot themselves that all goes in the vault.
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>>98759979
Same. When the ks went live the model design made it look like it had already succeeded. Glad I was prudent at the time.
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>>98752289
>>98752383
Samefag, fake, and gay.

>>98757942
>Can jannies ban the Trench Crusade faggots shitting up the board already?
FTFY
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>>98757942
Jannies now are all quiet rightoids.

Threads about trannies and how their mentality is weird, with no traditional games mentioned? Nothing.
Deliberately shit up on-topic threads with shit everyone knows is made up, and then proudly affirm that they're doing this with bad intentions to 'win'? Nothing.
Break down why chuds and rightoids aren't actually right wing/conservative, but a counterculture that depends on being antagonistic and contrarian for their entire sense of personal identity and self-worth, because someone asked "why are these people acting like this"?

Insta-ban for being 'off topic'.


C'mon janny. You know you can't help but prove me right.
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>>98759950
By that logic every 40slop thread should be banned, I'm all for it desu
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>>98761291
I feel like the jannies are paid off by the geedubs jews too
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>>98761291
>tranny mad he can't police thoughts like reddit
You won, you get wizard of the coast, you get hasbro, you get GW too(every other Imperium character is a girlboss), what the fuck more do you want? Everything has turned lame and gay, go play your lame and gay games with purple and cyan and tranny looking "women". It's what you wanted right?
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>>98761602
Equality feels like opression to those who are used to privilege
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>>98711161
Entirely vibe-based, like a more shallow 40K without the benefit of something like the Ciaphas Cain novels or The Infinite and The Divine to flesh out the world and some of the mysteries in it. I don't hate it, but the art hard carries. But I've given up hope for mysteries like Metachrists being cloned ever being explained.

I'm very tired of the Temple of Metamorphosis still being MIA, and it being a mystery if Zygotic Beasts will ever even have models at all

>>98713406
I hear you on that. In execution, the game feels like an advertisement for itself if that makes any sense. There is a promising foundation, and they do shit all with it other than the bare minimum. Where's the AMBITION for this damn project, outside of the art?
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>>98761610
As a cash-grab i'd say it was quite ambitious
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>paint golden Christ on mini
>never fail a single risky roll, pull multiple crits turning multiple heretics into pink mist in a single game
>kills a warwolf(after it was heavily wounded by a satchel charge of course)
>opponent fails 80% of their risky rolls
Christ is King I guess
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>>98761659
Blessed by the militant Christ the lion it seems, cool bit too where's it from.
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>>98761755
The whole machine armor guy is from Etsy, there's two like this one with the heavy shotgun (what a beast that is, short range it just works) and another with a heavy flamer. Haven't used the heavy flamer yet because so far I played only 700 ducats one-offs with my friend, it's just two of us and it feels weird trying to make a campaign work in 2.
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>>98761560
No you're dodging again. The guy who made Trench Crusade literally works for a game marketing company and worked in marketing at fucking EA and ubisoft before that. Its been advertising from day one. At best you got played.
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>>98761610
>the game feels like an advertisement for itself if that makes any sense.
That's because it is made to be so. Tuomas Pirinen works for these guys. Whole thing is preformulated slop in 'indie game' flavour.
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>>98761610
>But I've given up hope for mysteries like Metachrists being cloned ever being explained.
Personally i'd see metachrist stuff remain obfuscated and mysterious. For example WH40K became a lot less interesting when GW/Black library fleshed out the Emperor, the primarchs and the entire horus heresy in minute detail.
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>>98761902
Have you actually played it? I swear to God, sometimes I argue on this website for hours just to discover they actually enjoy sfiligoi shit like Dragon Rampant, then I realize I've been arguing with retards for hours.

TC rules is perfectly fine for a skirmish game, it's not bloated to shit with stratagems, weird rule exceptions, extra-resources, in short it doesn't try to be MTG with miniatures like many modern games. The balance is iffy, but the game being really swingy with dices kinda offsets it.
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>>98761941
Read them, too much cruft and fiddly shit for the results. Made a few warbands with the maker, not for me.
Looks like people complain about flamethrower spam and various things but that's normal for Toumas, he's not a good rules guy, he at best had goth vibes.
Game's fucked, been fucked from the get go. Watching it shift from kitbash to offical /tg/ janitorial sponsorship and Lore and official models has been one of the great examples of marketing enshitification in small spaces.
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>>98761291
>>98761562
Sisters, I think we'll find sympathizers for our cause on Resetera or r/sigmarxism

There are too many bigoted chuds here
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>>98761607
Preach, honey

This is OUR hobby now and chuds cant do anything about it
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>>98760553
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>>98761855
>He thinks the guys who work at GW haven't been marketing since their inception
My Shitposter Can't Be This Retarded
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Finished up another trench terrain block today.
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>>98763756
And from the other side.
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>>98761659
That's a warcrime
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>>98763756
It looks like a Lasagna
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How concerned are you guys by the success of Space King?
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>>98761988
t. gw shill that didn't even play the game
Fuck off and stop shitting up the thread tourist
>>98762433
neck yourself tourist
>>98761659
I should try painting crosses on my chud Dirge zombies i guess
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Would New Antioch,Trench Pilgrms or Heretic Legion be best for capturing this vibe on the tabletop?
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>>98763789
Boardgames are irrelevant to skirmish wargames, go shit up a different thread
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>>98763794
Naval Heretic proxies i suppose desu
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>>98763760
Top needs more texture feels like
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>>98763789
Why would I be concerned about more games existing? You aren't some kind of fag that treats the media he consumes like a personal religion and gets offended when people like other things as well, are you?
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>>98763794
Antioch if you're talking about vibes, if gameplay I have zero fucking clue what this is
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>>98761659
Looks great! My Abyssinia stuff arrived in the mail this week. I still have some stuff from other games to finish up but im excited to get started on them.
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>>98648907
Reposting my heretics. I still have a kitbashed artillery witch to paint.
I'm also preparing some swiss guard.
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Why haven't they released an art/lore book yet? I don't think the game sells, especially with the toxic community around it, but the models and setting should, and I think it's the game's strongest point.
I started collecting New Antioch a couple of weeks ago, but the setting is shallower than I expected. How do they expect customers to sink their teeth in if it's bone dry?
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>>98766577
The plastic seems to be selling pretty well, and they are releasing updated corebook with more lore and art in november
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>>98766499
what do people use to get that wet blood effect on their minis
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>>98767447
Blood effect paints duh
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Slowly working on me chud dogs that always fucking die turn 1 rrreeee
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>>98767447
not that anon but i tend to use GWs "Blood for the Blood God" technical paint. There are probably lot of other similar paints in other ranges
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Bump limit reached so flesh bled here:
>>98768430
>>98768430
>>98768430
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>>98739179
>decent human being

>>>/reddit/
>>>/tumbler/
>>>/bluesky/

you seem to be mistaken this isnt faggot vile gay nigger retard land is down the hall to the left
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>*mogs TC*
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>>98771608
>>98771612
Last for you're a fag



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