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>tqMore detachment options
>TQI hope they make my army the strongest army
>>98657346>Buff the Sisters of Battle Editionwhy?
>TQI desperately hope Necrons become an elite army again, no C'tan spam doesn't count, C'tan are gay
1 HQ, 2 Troops, and some stuff for fun, simple as.
Sister anon, do you have any recommendations for basing to someone that's just done armageddon dust on marines before? I was maybe going to do that marble effect with a stretched out baby wipe
>TQIf we honestly have to go with detachment BS, I just want detachments that actually make most of the units in my army useful as opposed to being stuck with like two or three load bearing datasheets.
Make warriors feel like the big elite infantry threats they're supposed to beUnfuck wargear options (toxin sacs, adrenal glands, all the carnifex head and tail options, etc.)Make gants worth taking againMake my army actually feel like it can kill stuff and not rely on ignoring my opponent for 5 turns to score points
>>98657357Cuz they need it>>98657358Eh I’d be ok with like 1 or 2 being viable picks but they shouldn’t be staples
>>98657363just do it, you can't go too far wrong with basing because if worse comes to worse it just a base
>>98657346>TQPlease give nids something ANYTHING better than the current shadow in the warp.
>>98657346give all eldar units psyker level 1 at minimum
>>98657370DUDE what do you mean Battleshock is SUPER IMPORTANT
>>98657357>48% win-rate with the best players on the most optimized lists playing perfectly>worse version of salamanders in every way>extremely overpriced infantry units>tax on taking the few usable models in the entire range>any time sisters get to 50% GW nerfs best units for no reason>extremely few detachment options>can't combo best two detachments because reasons>extra cp generator has to jump through hoops>faction rule relies on models dying or its almost useless>t3, s3 in current year>low mobility Sisters are in a grim state right now
>new detachment further reinforces Marines hitting on 2'sWhy are they bothering to pretend? Just give Marines BS 5 across the board and remove a bunch of text on the unit cards. It'd be cleaner and less disingenuous that way.
>>98657380Welcome to the club with ad mech.
>>98657364Both new codexes have a general purpose 3dp detachment so far.
>>98657380>48% win rateThis is perfectly fine. 45-55% is within the balance range. Sit down. Plan your deployment. Play the objectives. Get to work.
>>98657370SitW is going to go away (likely locked behind the psychic detachment) and the army rule is going to move to synaptic imperatives wih different detachments giving you access to different imperatives
>>98657346>What 11th edition changes are you hoping GW makes to your army when your factions codex drops?some cool fluff for NLs
>>98657389I don't play either, and that doesn't necessarily mean it'll work for other armies. Take ad mech for instance who I guarantee won't be able to effectively use every datasheet in a generalist 3dp detachment.
>>98657358Are you yourself a Necron player? I love C’tan personally.
>>98657390Wrong they need buffs
>>98657404Well if the situation you've made up in your head is worth getting angry about I won't hold you back.
>>98657388Suffer with me admech bro. I have to maximum effort and draw perfect secondaries to have a chance at winning even casual games>>98657390>le git gudanon pretending the army doesn't have fundamental issues is being willfully ignorant you also didn't address any of my points
>>98657397Now we’re talking
>>98657413Yeah I don't know have you seen the past couple of editions?
>>98657408Yes. I have always hated C'tan. They look gay and retarded next to my perfect shining phalanxes of silver skeletons. The only one I own is the old nightbringer I got when my buddy stopped playing 40k. I hate C'tan. I fucking hate them so much.
>Secrets...
I want Sister sisters buffed because of anon who posts them here and the sweet girl who plays them at my lgs. Like we discussed before, either give them 2W or T4 or some kind of FNP (pick one) and some better anti tank options.>TQI honestly don't know how they can buff Eldar without making them cancerous (again). But I'd really like to see Exarchs get powers back and have them be good again. Want my Autarch on a bike back and cool psychic powers. PLs are sick but it's really kinda funny seeing 2-4 of them in every list when they should be close to primarch levels of bullshittery.
>>98657419I've seen this edition and how they're doing things so far. Cheer up, Eeyore, things aren't looking so glum.
more like slutsters of buttle LOL
>>98657426>some kind of FNPThey really do seem to be reducing FNPs this edition. Orks lost them, as did Infiltrator marines. Hopefully will be far more rare and thematically appropriate than they have been.
KINDKOLOSSALKUSTODESKNOCKERS
>>98657426I have a list where I run every single phoenix lord minus the corsair ones, with a couple of wave serpents + avatarIt's surprising how effective they are at brutally murdering an entire unit then hopping back into a transport lol
>>98657426GW said we’re not a real bolter army and will not receive buffs. The update honeymoon is over
>>98657426Buffing Eldar is actually quite simple, you give us the Psychic phase back with every unit being a minimum Level 1 Psycher. That's the only change we really need.What will actually occur is we will remain slower than Marines, less tough than Marines, worse armor than Marines, fewer melee attacks than Marines, weaker weapons than Marines, and still cost more than Marines.
Started a new program in college and so I'm thinking of picking out a new unit to start a new army. What should I grab? I've already got necrons.My current two frontrunners are centurions to start a renegade-proxy army, and a wraithlord to start a exodite-y CWE army, but I'm open to most things that aren't full horde armies.
>>98657443based. femstodes for life
>>98657459>and still cost more than MarinesWhy lie so blatantly?
>>98657397Sorry but that's not allowed. Seriously. ADB supposedly loves the NL, is the head of narrative for 40k and does NOTHING with them. ffs
>>98657459Why do you care about unit stats so much? 90% of the game is the army, detachment and stratagem rules now. Eldar still rape Marines all the time
Why don't you want to play Rogue Trader-esque narrative scenarios?
>>98657459No man you get nothingEldar get nothingYoure fine as is
>>98657471Theyre already pretty coolIf nuGW starts fucking with them they will only do damage
>>98657473Because that wouldn't affect my ELO, fuck off back to DnD
>>98657460Since you seem like someone of a /m/fag I'll recommend getting a knight of some kind. They're fun to assemble and very easy to paint
>>98657417>>98657380>>98657414You lost and now you're throwing a fit trying to shift goalposts
>>98657473I like 40krpg stuff its dope>>98657483Dnd is aight too
>>98657488Wrong they need buffs
Sisters are fine and don't need anything.
>>98657470We get less value for every point spent, thus our army costs more. >>98657472>Why do you care about the numbers that affect the game>Eldar regularly hit 40% win rates using these numbers, pre-Marine codexIt's a mystery for the ages.>>98657478Bolt-carbinefag or mutie, call it
Sisters need a ~10pts decrease across Battleline and Infantry, - 5pts on characters.
>>98657485I kind of want a knight destrier, but only as a display piece. I've heard a lot of how knights aren't all that fun to play.Although I think there's a knight player or two in my LGS. How fun are knight-vs-knight games?
>>98657472the eldar aren't doing to well anon they either need a complete army rule rework, or some points cost reduction because their units are still priced like when they could move shoot move before james kneecaped them for being #2fast4u>>98657488wait are you agreeing with me or disagreeing with me, idk why u quoted me
>>98657385>change cover so thats its -1 to hit, to "reduce lethality">first 2 codecies of the new edition either spams ignores cover on everything or gives +1 to hit on everything
>>98657507The eldarseethe is just too goodHes taking swings at ghosts now
>>98657452Hell yeah brother. Are you running that list as Warhost to jump back into the transport with the strat or are there other ways to do it? I haven't fully grasped the million disembark/embark rules yet.
>>98657431Hey man, your army didn't spend the past three editions wondering if your full army would get its army rule on top of having a shit codex.
>>98657420I think you should shelve your Crons and pick up a more feminine army that suits your special needs.
>space marine battleline vs sister battleline>this is fine sisters need nothing okay.gif
I feel like every other army on /40kg/ has someone insisting that all the players are whining autists who are never satisfied.
>>98657482I don't need them to have the popularity of the cult legions but at least give us a cool night lord character or something.
>>98657541Permanent means forever.
How do we fix Guard for 11th edition?>inb4 stop playing them
>>98657544Yeah, they don't need anything.Tacticals are just same thing as intercessors now. And assault intercessors shouldn't even be a separate thing either.It should just by Intercessor squad + heavy intercessor squad. That's it.
>>98657544But you get 1 multi-Melta that hits on 5s in the new cover system! Totally worth being 25 points more expensive than Marines! And for 125 points for four 1 wound multi-melta girls that also hit on 5s! Now compare that 105 points for 5 Flash Gitz.
>>98657426>and the sweet girl who plays them at my lgshave you asked her how big her cock is
>>98657558I don't know. Give them 4 more kill teams?
Wtf are these, Termagants got new weapons?
>>98657559Buffing Sisters is actually quite simple, you give us the Psychic phase with every unit being a minimum Level 1 Psycher. That's the only change we really need.
>>98657518This legit bothers me. Looking at the Ork codex they have so many easy as fuck ways to ignore cover. 45pts for a Mek that attaches to all the good units for ignores cover is insane.Ignoring cover should be much harder to do, squishy armies absolutely need it to not get blown off the board t1/t2 by any mild shooting.
>>98657380Yep we need fucking buffs>No anti tank besides Vahl + Paragons (which is why this combo is in EVERY SINGLE Battle Sister list)>Even meltas will wound marines only with 3s. Two editions ago meltas wounded tanks on 3s and now they wound tanks on 5s and marines on 3s>Our regular guns will wound marines on 5s soon>Intercessors will wound us with 2s>11th edition transport destruction rules mean that Rhinos are far riskier since we lose a sister on 1s and 2s now rather than just 1s in 10th if the Rhino is knocked out
>>98657518>SM's hit on 2's in most cases>Now wound T3 on 2's as wellLmao
>>98657570>The word comes from a fictional deity named Termagant (or Tervagant). During the Middle Ages, European Christians mistakenly believed that Muslims worshipped this violent, boisterous god. The character frequently appeared in medieval plays and puppet shows wearing long robes. Because of the theatrical costume and the loud, aggressive behavior of the character, the name shifted by the 17th century to describe a similarly loud and domineering person, usually a woman.Neat.
>>98657426>FNPAhhh the good old days of Valorous Hearts. I liked them due to having the 6+ FNP while everyone else spammed Bloody Rose.
>>98657581Harridan is similar too.
>>98657585Ebon Chalice bros… always forgotten
>>98657541>you don't want to play the naked squid head guy? GAYI despite C'tan faggots
Please convince me not to buy this box. I've been looking at it since it got released...
Penitent Meltamine Spears(wo)men when...
>>98657510they're like Gundam fights where you both are spamming your shooting at each other while trying to hold objectives>>98657526Warhost all day every day bro
>>98657588so is "faggot"
Kino
>>98657594I mean, you do kind of need it. And it will pay for itself in entertainment value. And you've spent money in stupider ways before. Really there's no reason not to do it.
>>98657594Buy it, convince your friends to play older editions and bad touch your opponent by casting psy powers that put their units into ongoing reserves without their consent.
>>98657595Sure thing!>Wounds vehicles on 5's, does D3+1 damage
>>98657576But seriously the no anti tank is the worst thing about our faction since 10th edition. Our only shooting that is above S10 is HKMs and those are one shot only. And our only melee above S10 are Paragon Maces.Like please GW give us a Sister Land Raider so we can have Lascannons. Or since we have our versions of Razorback, Predator and Whilrwind give us a Sister version of the Vindicator.
>>98657616Hell yeah the Cyclops has returned.
>>98657594You can 3d print all the models it contains for the price of a McDonalds Big Mac Meal and still get to assemble the models by hand if you're into that.GW makes mostly shitty monopose sloppa these days.Eldar are kinda ass this edition and getting worse in favor of marine wankers.
>>98657619Anon sisters is an aesthetics armyYou pick it when you want to lose but look cool doing it
>>98657346>What 11th edition changes are you hoping GW makes to your army when your factions codex drops?If the unit costs change, they only go down or at least balance on my lists because I plan to slowly build this army to 750, 1000 and then 2000.
>tfw became such an obnoxious shitposter that most of the general has filtered me out
>>98657594Skyreaver's aren't all that great and that gives you 10. I'd rather pick up the Corsair combat patrol box that comes with the falcon instead of the vyper. Falcon will always be useful in any Eldar list. You'd have to pick up Yriel separately but that's ok.
>>98657595Sounds like you want orks
>>98657576And instead of reduction the cost of other units to make them seem more attractive, james spiked the cost of vahl and paragons! But they had to make sure the sob didn't hurt the marinepiggies too often, so they taxed our sacrosanct + hospitaller bricks, and COMPLETELY REMOVED celestine's ability to revive d3 bodyguard units! Can't have the sisters being in any way durable now!
>>98657639That reminds me I need to strip and repaint my falcons. ....I'll just do it after completing my pile of shame....yeah. any day now....
>>98657645Yep and Celestine didn't even get point reductions for losing the ability to revive Seraphim or Zephyrim that she's attached to. Celestine basically lost her 4+ FNP and now lost the ability to revive her bodyguard units but she still costs the same.
>that one anon at your lgs that cant stop buying and changing armies, never gets anything painted, has zero impulse control
>>98657595God I need Repentia that. Lunge mines are my favorite Bolt Action unit
>>98657659Nothin wrong with being a collectorOne of my friends is like this
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98657594Corsairs lost a lot of luster for me once I actually looked at the rules and realized it was just a detachment for a keyword with two units and two named HQs.
>>98657666As long as he paints his models. Seeing the same person with a different greytide army every few months is upsetting
>>98657659
>>98657580With their 1 attack firing mode which is D2, completely wasted into T3 models.
>>98657630> tfw the really good Russian recaster I used in the past is now selling super clean professional scans of all eldar stuff, including dragon knights> don't have a printer> It would cost me something like $700-$1000 CAD to get a decent brand new print set up, including wash/cure, peripherals, tent, etc> maybe even cheaper if I can find a good deal on something usedSo ~1300 points of the army I want would cost me $1200 CAD retail, at a discount store too. It's very fucking tempting to just splurge on the print setup. I'm still going to buy certain kits retail anyway, and especially old metal versions of my favorite units, but I think I'm just gonna get a print setup. GW lost the plot on pricing.
>>98657678They'll probably get some leader/buff/stratagem to correct that.
>>98657683Making up things to get mad at again.
>>98657645Sisters aren't doing that bad but I'm with you on the bullshit that is these marine buffs.GW seems to want everyone to run mass melta but goes shocked Pikachu.jpg when melta/at also kills marines because they're too stupid to realize that having the average statline in the game be a marine means any competent army has to kill marines or be some useless background army for the marine player to slaughter to enable his power fantasies. GW of course deciding that turning non marine factions into npc cannon fodder is cringe but they're too far up their own ass to realize anyone other than space marine players want to have fun in their game.
>>98657659Thats my buddy, just buys the most powerful army at the time. Maybe primes them, never paints more than a model or two. Basically has an entire LGS of unbuilt boxes at his house because the rules move faster than him (but not his wallet)
Played my first game of 11th last night, went up against my votann buddy at 2k points this time.Went with classic deffskullz theming this time instead of my usual Stuntie Smashaz list, meaning Madcap Meks, dread mob, and Wreckaz were my detachments for maximum "looting vehicles to build vehicles" theme.If his army looks small (aside from being dwarves) it's because he had a good chunk of hearthguard in deepstrike.
>>98657671They're really fun sculpts though. Great for kitbashing too. I'm going to make upgraded Dire Avengers with a box of the new guardians and bits from the voidreavers box. Something like picrel but using the corsair guns.
>>98657688>the bullshit that is these marine buffs.They lost Oath and are going up in points 10-20% but faggots have already decided they're OP based on a couple of okay datasheets and gravis detachments.
>>98657521>oink oink oink squeeee!Marinepiggies never cease to amaze me. They squeal out in pain as they hit and wound on 2's.
>>98657697good god
>>98657685Gravis are now Move-Shoot-Move machines that are wounded by Gladiators on 3s and lascannons on 4s with a relic. GW has lost the plot
>>98657672Yeah he’s always painting his shitBut he also has a huge pile of shit he hasn’t painted lolAnd he’s always buying more despite having a huge pile
Ahhh nooo Intercessors wont fall over to a stiff breeze anymore and bolters actually do something I'm going insaaaaaaame why gw
>>98657698I hope your orks won :D
>>98657697We both had a boring turn 1, and for the first time ever since 9th edition I didn't call my Waaaaghh!! on turn 2. Using some strats, enhancements, and Warboss abilities I was able to get key units riled up to get that bonus, meaning I was able to hold off until his key units arrived to call my main Waaaghh!.... unfortunately, though, 2 of those 3 key units failed their charges and were left out in the open this turn.
>>98657706Don't worry we'll get to the point where bolters won't do anything and we'll have to buff them again. S8 bolters might do the trick.
>>98657697Cool looking game man>>98657701He’s still going lol
>>9865769910% more points when you go from hitting me on 3s to 2s and wounding me on 3s to 2s. While I go from wounding you on 4s to 5s. That is worth way more than 10%.
>>98657698I really like the bits that the corsairs KT had. If I were to do a corsairs army, I'd just buy a box or two of corsairs for the bits alone, and make normal CWE units look corsair-y.Could also just do that with deldar now that I think of it.
>>98657708seems like you're gonna get your shit pushed in
>>98657697Well you seem to be playing on official layouts except you're not using the right foot prints, you're using the retarded clear ones that everyone got into using in 10th
>>98657682More and more people are figuring this outEventually the micro-economy of models/miniatures will probably readjust itself because of more and more people going over to 3-D printingWhen an entire 3-D printing set up costs the same as a single army of course people are going to choose to do that instead because then they can just have as many armies as they want
>>98657594Hahah look at them gay ass fairy faggots flying around with their butterfly wings!
>>98657594Not going to dissuade you I did buy it since it looked too cool. Alongside Realspace Raiders for Deldar. Couldn't resist daydreaming about my Corsair focused Craftworld. Saw some cheaper option show up and pulled the triggerI really shouldn't have, I have enough unfinished projects already for fucks sakeBut bits look cool. Already had Kill Team Corsairs, some random deldar and other craftworld stuff. I now have tons of customization options for elves at least, that's what I'm saying to myself hahaAnd the best thing? I have 3d printer and still buy GW models in an addition to printing. I really, really didn't need to buy those two
>>98657708As it turns out, meganobz got one hell of a glow-up this edition. I had 2 units of 5 with a big mek and Warboss leading one of each. The big mek had an enhancement to keep the unit riled up all game, meaning both units had -1 to AP against them and +1 to hit all game.I had both units completely out in the open against a massive chunk of his shooting and I'll be damned, both of them took very minimal losses. He killed my deff dreads, dakkarig (new model syndrome), and a trukk but the meganobz, breaka Boyz, and tankbustas were alive and well for my upcoming turn 3. Very bad position for him to be in.>>98657719You'd think that, wouldn't you? I certainly did.>>98657721The store has 1 set of the actual footprints in-house, and they were in use by another table. We had to make do with what we had.
I feel like eldar propaganda is being posted right now. And it's working.
>>98657714On top of that, traditional anti-marine weapons have suffered, but hey at least everything's free.
>>98657699They got a different army wide special rule. Stop phrasing it like they lost anything Marinefag. Everyone else gets to feel even more useless than before as their guns get worse and worse while gw endlessly buffs marine durability and damage output to the fucking moon. Shit feels miserable to fight if you've played for more than like 2 editions and going to T5 is fucking stupid.
>98657713>say stupid thing>"Wow, someone responded lol"
>>98657581I get that the idea behind naming Tyranids after various obscure words for "nasty woman" is because they're technically an all-female species but it is kinda funny.
>>98657731With my main vehicle-killers pushing into his gun line, with the proper Waaagh!! in effect, he lost both land fortresses, his kapricus, half of his steeljacks, and all but 1 of his thunderkyn. All that was left were his deep strikers to come in next turn, half a unit of steeljacks, and some warriors.
>>98657359You will furnish me with more pictures of that Whirlwind, without delay.
He’s ghost replying now lolEldar players are so sensitive
>>98657723I'm lucky because I have the space to have a decent setup, and I have time currently to actually fiddle with it. I can understand someone who has neither just buying stuff from GW...or from other people who have 3D printers.
>>98657740His turn 3 and my turn 4 sealed the game. His hearthguard came down and eliminated a unit of tankbustas (the other unit failed their charge against my MANz/Warboss unit) to take center ground from me. However, my follow-up turn had one of his hearthguard units destroyed by the meganobz they failed to charge, and the steeljacks finally going down against the other unit of MANz they were locked into combat with.Essentially, he only had 1 unit of hearthguard left on the board, so he conceded here.We got to witness an admech player have a small meltdown over the game he was playing against Orks on the other side of the store. Favorite quote was "why do all of your Orks have better shooting than me? What is this shit?" Which I have to agree with. My own performance was disgusting this game.
>>98657707Orks always win, anon. Even when edition creep puts them in a rough spot, Orks are just fun, and having fun is the most important victory of all.It's most of the reason why Ork players don't get mad at the I LIEK ORKS ECKS DEE shitposter. We just unironically agree that we do, in fact, like Orks.
>>98657629>returnedDON'T CALL IT A COMEBACKI'VE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS
>>98657605I still prefer those older Stormtrooper models, very nice. The Sergeant with the Boltgun strapped across his chest was my favorite.
>>98657751>We got to witness an admech player have a small meltdown over the game he was playing against Orks on the other side of the storethen the real victory was the friends we made along the way>>98657753based and cooljpilled
>>98657751So, it was a complete Ork victory. Fun game, but definitely noticing some potential issues with the codex. Just a lot of good shooting I don't feel like I'm supposed to have, and good gosh meganobz are absolute beasts this edition. A permanent -1 AP and the ability to have +1 to hit all game means they were basically custodians, hitting and wounding on 2s all game and barely able to die.My new dakkarig was able to kill 1 unit before he got new model syndromed to death, though. So that's nice.
how much model overlap could I squeeze out of eldar and deldar, if I try to kitbash corsair-y versions of their infantry? Guardians and kabalite warriors are definitely doable (though I'd need the turret still).
>>98657751Thank you for the bat rep. I like that your orks won! :D Beautiful models on both sides.Also I don't blame the Ad Mech guy lmao. I had an internal melty the other day vs Orks too.
I'm actually pretty disappointed with half the fucking codex focusing on gravis. I hate gravis. I hate how they look and how the units work and I fucking hate 3 man squads. And now that they've squatted devastators, I have no way of running half of the heavy weapons and no anti tank outside of vehicles. That transport detachment better have an upgrade for drop pods that lets them be fucking viable for once.
>>98657751>We got to witness an admech player have a small meltdown over the game he was playing against Orks on the other side of the store.I just feel sorry for this guy. I play ad mech and oftentimes it feels like you jump through tons of hoops just to do what other armies get for existing. Feels like they kneecapped shooting with 4+ BS on top of the bizarreo army rules. Fucking nonsense.
>>98657776The future is bright. The Omnissiah told me.
>>98657767Some other Eldarchad posted their kitbashed army a while ago, pic related
XenosCHADS, are you going to decline playing against the marinepiggies when their codex rules go live? Personally I may just wait until my army's codex drops instead of participating in a humiliation ritual for someone else's amusement, but I can see the argument for wanting to play for fun casually.
>>98657783I want those robots and stuff so fucking bad. They have such cool weapons and Thallax would be wicked too.
>>98657744And gay as well
>>98657786Imagine being this afraid of marines lolLittle emasculated xenoscucks scatter in our wake
daily reminder leman russ sucks big red wolf dicks.daily reminder leman russ fans have no jobdaily reminder leman russ fans haven’t painted in nearly a year despite having no jobdaily reminder leman russ fans do not belong heredaily reminder no one likes leman russ fans
>>98657775>>98657786Lol, SoB falseflag spotted
>>98657772Do you even play games you faggot ritual poster?
>>98657784Love that incubus on the right. Wonder if I could make a good midpoint between howling banshees and incubi.
>>98657368>>98657380still see no reason WHY they should be stronger. other factions are also weak and this is fine
>>98657796Le ebin ritual post, the decal dude did a proper number on your brain
WIP Destrier
>>98657804>still see no reason WHY they should be strongerBecause its the faction they play, duh
>>98657786nah, I have enough D2 high strength weapons. in fact, I will still wound them on 3s, most of the time while they have less models on the board than before.
>>98657697That list of detachments sounds like the funnest for orks. Dont know if id have enough units for it desu. Did you notice that they FINALLY gave the blastajet the mek keyword? Fucking FINALLY, it would be fun to run in that detachment
>>98657796Most of the SWfags here fit in and actually paint models. Fecalfag just gives everything a bad name.
>>98657804There are several reasons they should be stronger
I do like the Eldar Corsairs to a point, a bit like with the Harlequins and no doubt the Exodites, in some ways they don't need overexposing and an army made for no real reason.
>>98657819that’s true. I’ve thought about it, and I think I’ll begin saying “mutant” instead cause I’m quite fond of the other space wolves posters.
>>98657570the termagants in the leviathan box, and some other stuff, only come with fleshborers (the little boltguns with a fleshy magazine that they hold with both hands).the actual full kit for termagants comes with the other weapons, pairs of spinefists (akimbo pistols) for every gaunt, or a devourer (the cone with holes) for every gaunt, plus one spike rifle (the harpoon launcher), one shardlauncher (the biggest cannon in there), and one strangleweb (the horsecock gun).of these weapons the fleshborers, spinefists and devourers were also present in the previous kit, while the spike rifle and the horsecock existed at different points either just in the form of rules or associated with very old 2nd edition metal models.
>>98657826I just wish we got more one-offs that stuck about and weren't like £25
>>98657594Do they even sell it any more?Anyway you shouldn't get it. The skyreavers are a shite kit.
>>98657786Nah, I'll just continue to eat them for free with cheap, incidental transport shooting wounding on 3sEspecially now that they cost more and they won't always have access to AoC
>>98657826what is wrong with that nigga on the right
>>98657852He thought he would be a bloodletter one day but he became a bloody letdown instead, now he plays gachas and stalks elf women outside.
>>98657852It's a conversion of one of the old weird Bloodletters
>>98657773TIL 2 out of 15 is half.
>>98657826I do like presence of the zoat a lot in there, it feels almost natural to have them alongside corsairs or exodites.
>>98657830And yet he mogs your faction and paint skill.
>>98657872>henta but I’m still waiting to see your models btw
>>98657872Im really tall and handsome and muscular with low bf% though so I mog in the only way that actually matters>>98657826Exodites and harlequins get a pass because theyre cool
>>98657764Where did you get your terrain anon?
>>98657346>TQBrain Bug Sorcery, but with the way things are going from the Ork codex I think every faction with psychic is getting this so it’s a lock. I’m going all in on brains in 11th.
>>98657558You know those cannons they used to shoot clowns out of in circuses? Replace transports with those and also they can shoot shells too.
>>98657870Indeed. I do like how GW are finally re-adding random pets and stuff, unfortunately a lot of the time they're tied to expensive character miniatures rather than being a few quid in the Bitz Catalogue ofc
>>98657594>>98657767>>98657784>>98657802Corsairs being a keyword rather than a proper faction is arguably a strength making them the most kitbash-friendly army. You can represent any of the units with any of the kits with the weapons swapped out or at least abstractly represented since now all the arms can fit any body with some slight filing or a plasticard sliver.Except kabalites and witches but those still mesh with dire avenger bodies at least.
>>98657907>Except kabalites and witches but those still mesh with dire avenger bodiesalmost makes me want to pick up some mold slip avengersalmost
>>98657907Like if you want corsair striking scorpions you only need some armored bodies and weapon arms. Use incubi with scorpion swords. Have the exarch have a fire dragon's body with a punk-rock haircut and two power swords. Give scourges lasblasters and have the exarch have that meathook stave and a blast pistol and they're swooping hawks.
>>98657866I said half the codex in exaggeration that doesn't mean half the detachments.
>>98657544There probably won’t be battleline in 12th edition. They’ll just make it so certain detachments let you take 6 infantry units instead of 3.
>>98657914They're so easy to fix and the bits are so good>>98657914
>>98657786I almost always wound them on 5s anyways so it's no big deal, it's a matter of how high their points costs are.
>>98657544SoB are fine, space marines need all 4 of those squatted and replaced with tactical squads.
>>98657879
>>98657932We don't need tacticals.
>>98657948You don't need tacticals because you're a retard. Space Marines need tactical squads just like orks need boyz.
>>98657619I think Sister Vindie is a lock at this point.
>>98657905>Deepstrike with a mobile clown car cannonFund it
I like orks :D
>>98657870Zoat Terror Squads whenGeneric Prince and Voiddreamer when
>>98657547I'm about to read the Revenant Blade so I don't know if the main character from the book would make a good character or modelLord of the Night isn't canon so that character isn't coming backThe trilogy ended with everyone dying so no hope there except for Decimus but no one wants to explore him
Depending on how nutty you want to get you can even kitbash the wraiths to be corsairs. A wraithlord with dark lances would look sick
>>98657926You seem to be good at Eldar kitbashing, if I wanted to go glamor riders like pic related, what are some of the best heads? Banshee chests I assume?
kitbashing should be illegal
>>98657990After seeing the kneeling Knight Dominus for sale at my LGS I agree.
>>98657986>my shell is cold>their emotions are too loud>I wish I was back in the infinity circuit
>>98657990Call the cops i have already won.
Howling Banshees are cool but I have too many models already that are just sitting around to paint up a unit and not use them, but then Eldar armies are like 2000 bucks and I just spent 2k on my computer
>>98658024Wow they still look awful
>>98658024AWWOOOOOOO XD
>>98658024yfw
>>98657988I can't think of any heads with the proper swept back hair you'd get while flying. GW doesn't really do glamor heads anyway
>>98657619>so we can have lascannonsThey'd be the only lasguns in the entire SoB roster iirc, so GW would of course get rid of them "for thematic purposes.">Sister version of the VindicatorThis is the most likely to happen so GW can say they "did something" IMOThat said, "Holy Lance" tank destroyer PLEASEGive it the LR Vanquisher main gun in a casemate hull and I will never run anything else
>>98658020I give people credit for trying to pose their knights but 90% of the time it just looks goofy
>>98658024Marines should just always be wearing helmets manHeads just look so fucking stupid on marines with very rare exception
>>98658028Doesn't matter my dark work is accomplished and you can't undo it.
>>98657619How do painters manage to get those gnarly shiny volumetric highlights like on the front of that vehicle?
>>98658048I think GW has always just kind of decided Wulfen have never worn them just so they can bite a motherfucker. Which i mean werewolves so fair do's.
>>98658048Unless theyre primaris helmets then I'd rather have bare heads
>>98657786Can't wait to get shit on my marinebros over and over again as a gsc player, sure looks like FUN
>>98658049To be less of a prick, the simple headswap is far superior to actual wulfen. I just think wulfen are unsalvageable and you haven't swayed my stance. Props to you for making them your own if you somehow like them though.
>>98658053Hours of glazing and blending
>>98658055>Eyup fellow muties, these dumb loyalists arent even carrying guns lmao>*ripping phonebook sounds*>Oh no, not my guttyworks! i need those!
>>98657357Because they shouldn't be flanderized as nundams.list
>>98658039I saw some with long ponytails, but that was about it. I feel like I can cope and just say they're in their parked stance
>>98658055This shit does not aesthetically appeal to me at all so thats all you manI just thing heads look like shit in general on marinesThats for like guard
>>98658063>Hours of glazingbut enough about yo mama
>>98658025Yes they are. I have these as my new WIP since I finally finished my Avengers. I don't know what color scheme I'm going to go with. They're going to be Iyanden but I'm thinking of going with a dark/deep blue for the armour and yellow for the cloth. Classic red for the hair? Not sure. Also thinking of just doing the classic bone colors and just having bits of blue, yellow, and white.
>>98657971>so I don't know if the main character from the book would make a good character or modelHe's okaysh but he's no talos or sevatar
>>98657988You're just going to have to get something made up and printed out for you.
>>98658062Friend you need to consider the alternative here..
>>98658049>all grills and beakiesSOVL
>>98658078I can’t believe they haven’t been squatted yet
>>98658078Just exterminatus all of Fenris at this point
>>98658067Did Starship Troopers teach you nothing?
perpetual no games here thinking about finally getting into it after years but don't quite know where to start. There are a couple of local game stores that sell 40k stuff and I would assume they have game nights, events, etc. but I don't personally know anyone into it or anyone who plays. My question to you is how did you get into it, did you know anyone, and where should I start? What army is the most fun to play? How do I make friends?
>>98657988Best you can do for big hair is probably Dark elves models. GW doesn't really do that style of hair outside of headdresses behind crowns/masks and it doesn't really look good most of the time because a solid brick of plastic can't really show the floaty volume of hairspray 80s hair.
>>98658070Talos was cool but I never loved him like I did UzasSevatar was just great and in an amazing book. Kind of glad they didn't go with that crown stuff though, Conrad should remain dead it's a big part of the character
>>98658078Is there an uglier space marine unit?
>>98658053broke: buying 3 to 6 tones of the same color, layering on the lightest colors first, and wet blending as it radiates outwardswoke: airbrushing with the rest of the models coveredbespoke: using a contrast paint and spreading it super thininvoked: spray it with glossy varnish and let lighting do the rest
>>98658087Found out there is a local discord group, got invited, introduced myself and asked for an intro game, played an intro game
>>98658090centurions
>>98658103they got legends'ed lad. A new uggo has taken the crown.
>>98658089>Conrad should remain dead it's a big part of the characterYes but as I always say, eventually we're gonna have all primarchs running around cause they print money for gw, it's gonna feel weird if we're the only ones without ours.>Kind of glad they didn't go with that crown stuff thoughYet
What would incubi be closer to for the sake of trying to kitbash a good counts-as; striking scorpions, or screaming banshees? I'm assuming banshees because both banshees and incubi are 5-man squads.>>98657986Where would one get his hands on a wraithlord-sized dark lance?>>98658090Desolation squad. Though I guess they're not "uglier" so much as "more stupid."
>>98658103They’re not ugly you just lack imagination
>>98658103I think the wolfen just barely edge out centurions on the ugly scale
>>98658112They are literally a fallen striking scorpions shrine in the lore, but mechanically they've become more similar to banshees.
>>98658101How do I find that out? And what exactly was said?
>>98658089>Conrad should remain deadSame for Sanguineous obviouslyBut if they are just bringing back Primarchs like >>98658111 says then yeah fuck it I want Conrad too
>>98658113You're a contrarian faggot
>>98658077>>98658088A man can dream
>>98658111>>98658120you just know the levels of Schadenfreude and vindication Kurze will have when he sees the current state of the Imperium
>>98658117>literally a fallen striking scorpions shrine in the loreI've probably heard this a dozen by now, and I've forgotten about it every single time.
>>98658112Scorpions have heavier armor so incubi fit them better.
>>98658088Someone posted these yesterday and I think if you tone down the volume of the hair a bit and go for more styled approach it would work well.
>>98658118You can start by going into the stores and asking staff if people playing 40k there or if there's a 40k night. The store might have an events calendar on their Facebook or website they usually aren't maintained well so always ask the store in person
>>98658087>I would assume they have game nights, events, etcGo to one of these stores and look around, they probably advertise events if they host them, or they have tables to rent. If you don't see a sign advertising a game night/event, ask someone who works there if they do.>how did you get into itSaw 40k stuff in a store as a kid, bought/was gifted models>did you know anyoneI formed my "play group" when I was in high school, so yes. Friends and friends of friends became 1st-order friends. When I lived in a big city during college one LGS had events and I was cordial with most of the other players, but we never would interact outside of "talking about/playing wargames.">where should I start?Go to Warhammer dot com. Look at a few different categories of armies under the 40k category, see which ones appeal to you visually first, making note of them to reference later. Liking how your army looks is more important than anything when starting out. Once you've picked out a few, compare between them, considering how they play. If you don't know how they play, ask here or the search engine attached to your browser.>What army is the most fun to play?For me? Guard. I like tanks.This is mostly down to your own play fantasy and what (you) want out if an army, not an objective metric.>How do I make friends?Talk to people in front of you at mutual interest events, build rapport, be personable. Don't be too autistic, don't spill spaghetti, don't be too edgy until you know you can.
>>98658135I'd need to get a good color inspiration for it all, since my army's motif would not work at all with them. I guess I'll need to watch some '80s OVAs, damn...
> Gravis Marines getting 15"+D6 movement T1> 5" scout, 5" move, +advance, + new shoot move strat of 5"
>>98658123I have them painted and love them, I walk the walk. Now explain to me why you don’t like them, they’re supposed to be brick houses that can withstand constant barrages of small fire and melee assault while grinding down the front lines and their appearance suggests they do a damn fine job.
Somehow I think Space Wolves would smell worse than Death Guard
>>98658186They look like dogshit, ugly helmets, retarded proportions, design themes that don't follow anything in the marine catalogue even after primaris, they fill a role above terminators that didn't need fillingpermanent means permanent
>>98658179based, you say?
>>98658192Death guard smell like shit in a based way. Space wolves smell like shit in an unbased way.
Okay. Talk me out of buying a couple eldar boxes.
>>98658179>mfw gravis marines end up faster than phobos>mfw phobos marines end up tougher than gravis
>>98658090Aggressors
>>98658192I doubt most battle hardened Marines smell pleasant, if you want to look pretty with a pleasant smell then go for the Custodes who just sit in rooms all day guarding a dead man and trinkets.
>>98658206do it, but be warned the combat patrol is kinda shitI picked up a set of the eldar issues of the combat patrol magazine and that was a bretty good deal
>>98658206I can't.
>>98658206Buy them now, before their codex brings them up to an average WR of 48% and demand spikes
>>98658186>I walk the walkOf course you do, they were a WAACfag pick for most of 10th, and that's the only reason anyone gives a shit about them
>>98658206They display rampant homosexuality throughout their lore, it’s best to shun such behavior.
>>98658207phobos already had access to scout moves and fire and fade without a detachment, plus a 6" reactive move in vanguard or shadowmark
>>98658206>kids are starving>welfare check comes in>buy a couple boxes of Eldar>flex on kids>life is good
>>98658192>Malchador is this new legion creepy or wet?>Haha its a fine legion my emperor>Mfw the Death Guard are wet.
>>98658227You seem confused, he didn't say he wanted to buy space wolves and blood angels and necrons
Custodes are pretty cool
>>98658222I’m not a WAACfag at all and play very relaxed and unserious, people love to play with me.
>>98658206Do eet
>>98657960I wasn't expecting there to be a precedent, nice.
Pay no attention to the attached image. Completely unrelated, but if I hypothetically put a 'captcha'd' magnet link in an image, are llms far enough along to descramble & figure out that it's a link? I figured I could just post an encoded magnet in text, but that seems too easy for bots to scrape.Asking for a friend. Also, picture unrelated.
>>98658049What chapter are these i dont recognise them at all.
>>98657950They don't need tacticals. Marines are warrior knights, not tactical slop.
>>98658218The only part of the CWE combat patrol that I like are the warp spiders and maybe the wraithguards. And the deldar box just looks no good to me, and the future of deldar models is very uncertain right now.I was thinking of starting by buying just some cool stuff to paint or an HQ. Maybe I try smushing an archon into an autarch.
>>98657346>TQNothing Legends-ed.Bring back generic Commanders, Infantry Squads, Command Squads, and Heavy Weapons Squads.Conscripts and Veterans back.Griffon and Medusa back.Bring in either the Malcador or the Macharius, something between a Russ and a Dorn.I assume we'll get the standard 15 detachments. Combined Arms will probably be the 3/2dp take-all-comers one. So kinda bring back the customizeable regiments via the detachment system.The only buffs we need are cheaper points costs. Quantity has a quality all its own.
>>98658300>macharius>between the russ and the dornthe macharius mogs the dorn
>>98657365Make Endless Multitude regens not once-per-battle.
>>98658268Space Wolves 13th CompanyThey got lost in the Warp and spent their time in it raiding chaos and resupplying through said raiding, and many devolved into wulfen because of the geneseed flawThey got out of the warp in time for the 13th Black Crusade and showed up in the books around that campaign>>98658300The Malcador and Macharius are both larger than the Dorn. The Malcador sits in the same size/field use spot as the Dorn, the Macharius is the step between the Dorn and the Baneblade.>something between a Russ and a DornWe need something smaller than a Russ like a Storm Chimera again, transport capability optional.The Russ is a perfect medium tank, the Dorn is a good heavy tank. We don't need an intermediate tank, we need infantry support that can actually carry its own weight (infantry that don't die to a sneeze would be nice too, but this vehicle would help that). The Hippogriff is too fast and not armored enough to fit into the infantry support role, but the Russ is too big to be there.
>>98658238I agreeCustodes are pretty cool
>>98658268The Space Wolves from HH that chased Abaddon into the warp and without resupply engaged in a -from their perspective- centuries long guerilla war on chaos, stealing armor, weapons and even vechiles to keep up strength. Very high geneseed flaw rate because they were all older grizzled veteran warriors on fenris when the emperor showed up and have gained a significant resistance to chaos and general warp fuckery. When the 13th black crusade happened in 2003 they showed up as a new army list where you kitbash loyalist space wolf and chaos traitor marine parts for a mostly on foot, on bike and wolf based high mobility army. Fun and simply kitbash army concept. The original core battleline troop box was literally a space marine sprue and a chaos space marine sprue forced to fit into the same box and made twice as many marines. Decent value for money.
Let’s stop talking about space wolves they’re fucking dumbAlso remember to treat spam bots for what they are it’s a simple ignore report
>>98657570>newTermagants got ONE new weapon, the Shardlauncher.Spike Rifle and Strangleweb are from 2E.
>>98657508It'd be less insulting if I could get an Ogryn Squad and a Commissar for only the same price as 10 battleline sisters instead of 10 points less.
>>98658353No we’ll continue talking about them because they are a Primary Chapter and highly sold unlike whatever drab and uninteresting faction you got sucked into.
>>98658369>Primarylmao
>>98658353Regular space wolves are lame but the 13th, especially in the GW scheme of HH sw mixed with word bearers is a fuckin' kino look for a space marine force.
>>98658206If only there was another way
>>98658353This guy gets it>>98658383These guys look sick
>>98658078>To be less of a prick, the simple headswap is far superior to actual wulfen. I already did, yes.
>>98658383>rafail slopshiggy diggy
Are crucible characters still legal?
>>98658339SoulModern GW would never do this
>>98658430Were they ever legal in matched play?
>keep misreading gravis marines as gravid marinesWhy did GW make an entire range of boypregnant marines?
>>98658380>my glup shitto yiffs in the style of the Gluppus Shittesy are ACKshully based and trad!Didn't the space yiffs call themselves The Rut in HH?
>>98658463Have you built your first model yet bud?
>>98658477How's those Hellblasters coming along?
>>98657682so which recaster are we talking aboutI have exodite scans, but they are raw/uncleaned
You're fucking crazy hahaha
>>98658217What do you think femstodes titty sweat smells like?
>>98658519You've never smelled titty sweat before?
>>98658520moob sweat doesn’t count bud
>>98658519Like goat cheese and mantits, since they have the chin, testosterone, and girthy cock of a male
What do you ritual posters get out of doing it every day? You've either been filtered by more than half the thread, and your posts dont receive (you)s anymore. Whats the appeal?
>>98658325>>98658314isnt the Malcador just a loooongRuss?
>>98658530Malcador is more of a ww1 tank
>>98658529They think they're impacting "board culture" by forcing a meme. What they don't realize is the moment they stop posting their faggotry everyone promptly forgets them within a week. Also most of them are so terminally online this is their only form of human contact so they form a parasocial attachment to these threads.
>>98658217>I doubt most battle hardened Marines smell pleasantIirc it is somewhat mentioned with marines, like they do seemingly give off an inhuman/weird smell to a degree which plays into the "transhuman dread" thing they have.It's the human brain's reaction to the uncanniness of marines. Same happens with how marines insanely fast, they can move faster than a human eye can track.It's the disconnect between seeing how large marines are, not just tall but massive, even firstborn are like 7-8ft tall on average. So you wouldn't expect something that big and heavy to be able to move that fast and even turn on a dime.
>>98658524>people are talking about women>anon instantly starts thinking and talking about men and their "girthy cocks"Gayyyyy
>>98658530It's "Big Russ" in the way that a Char 2C is "Big Char B1"There's a consistent design language between them, but they fulfill different roles and have very particular design quirks that make them uniquePic is the HH Malcador, it's similar to the Russ because it's made by the same designers both in-universe and out.
Alright guys how the fuck will I be able to paint with thumb arthritis?
>>98658563Time to become a sponge dabber and give up on self respect.
>>98658562It's like someone stretched a Russ in Photoshop
>>98658554Man they are so sick, I’m creaming with anticipation for the new Amazon show. I hope they just drop us into a massive battle full of carnage and death that showcases the Marines power like you’re describing for the opening introduction to the setting. I’m thinking an opening that matches the insanity of the Space Battle at the beginning of Star Wars Episode 3 but on the ground.
>>98658563Get used to gripping the brush with your first and second finger like a cigarette while using the web of your thumb as a third contact point.Or you can be like those perfectly mentally stable scale modelers and get comprehensively airbrush pilled.
>>98658559You can try to retcon your gender but it doesn't actually make it so, anon. Just because you slapped some tits on the Sons of Terra doesn't make them women. It makes much more logical sense that "fem"stodes are just the Emperor's final insult to the conquered Terran Elites.
>>98658568Two things made by the same designers for similar purposes often resemble each other.There's a reason the Tiger II looks so similar to the Panther in terms of the hull design.
>>98658568Looks like a Sherman Hess MBT from the legally distinct wargame, BattleMace: 3000AD
>>98658563become an airbrush chad
>>98658529I like the ritual posters
>>98658589:D or XD?
>>98658579Fucking love that guy.
How nonviable is a Sisters army made up mostly of stuff with [penitent]?Thinking about thos weird imperial gimps.
Hey guys, I'm heading down to the corner store to get some Centurions, Suppressors, and Hammerfall bunkers. Anyone want anything?
>>98658635ya penitent host is one of the ways to play them.https://listhammer.info/list/07a5e7be4bbbe6e446
>>98658647>BAWWWWWWWWWWWW one of my 10000 marine profiles that I always hated and was already made redundant and obsolete thrice over went away, what ever will I DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?!?!?!?!Suck it up, buttercup.
Update on the vintage models with gloss varnish that im trying to strip paint from; it seems to be slowly working. Is there any risk of using IPA on plastic models from the 90s? Im assuming they would be far more susceptible to warping or something similar due to their age
>>98658661Uh oh you'll get accused of being an exodite-fag soon
>>98658667you've been trying to make a scapegoat of this guy for years when he hasn't posted since 2024
I miss being able to soup imperials
>>98658670I have no idea what you're talking about m8
>>98658635Penitent Host is viable, you can even give a Canoness the Penitent keyword so Strats work on whatever non-pent squad she's attached to (but it doesn't work with the detachment rules since that's model and not unit).
>>98658688Nobody has mentioned the retard baselessly seething over exoditefags in years, you're not fooling anybody
>>98657547A character or two would be cool but I'd rather the NLs do something more impactful on the universe.I get it they're like the weakest legion but they could still pull some cool stuff off as a group
>>98658698Are you ok m8?
>>98658690>claims to be perfect>identifies with the gigatrans faction that's been butchered by medical science>cries about pedos while identifying with the faction abducts little boys and grafts tits onto themlel
Does this motherfucker have a fatal flaw built into the mold or something like the red terror and they’re having to redesign it? I’ve never seen a model come out and be oop this long with this level of popularity, it can be used in 5 factions for fucks sake.
>>98658749They made it broken as hell for five different factions for almost six whole months mate. Of course it was a hot seller
>fallen... fallen...
>>98658757Yet the demand still wasn’t met, you’d think they’d stop the presses and reprint it, ya know? They’ve had half a dozen other large sprue releases since it came out.
>>98658749>>98658776somebody doesn't remember wardogs being out of stock for 18 months
>>98658772>ballgaglol, homogimp
>>98658782Permanent means peramanent
>>98657605>>98657761I want to get a collection of Stormtroopers, Tempestus and Kasrkin STLs and then run a motley squad of different guard-but-more-elite if that makes sense using Tempestus Scions.Anybody know of some Tempestus recreation or high quality scans that could be mistaken as OG CAD files? I'd imagine those are hardest to get right now because they're currently being sold by GW.
>>98658782leemanrussfellatescanineCOCK
>>98658776I wonder what might be causing issues for a uk company stocking us warehouses over the last couple of years...
>Want to play with units, can't because they're not on bases and I want to put them on something special first>Can't build other units since they might get changes in the codex coming up
>>98658663Polystyrene is a chemical that is wholly inert in regards to isopropyl alcohol. Nothing will happen to the model.The chemical composition of polystyrene that models are made of didn't change between 1990 and today.
>>98657682Can I get some contact info for this Russian recaster, please? Preferably in /3dpg/ encryption because James is watching. I hope he covers more than just Eldar. I know of BLM and BMM and CnF but I don't know if those ones sell professionally cleaned scans yet.
>he now gets shot for reaction images alone now thats pretty funny
>>98658815I sometimes make up fake scenarios to justify my procrastinations anon but we must push through our excessive indolence lest our skills as hobbyists start to diminish. >>98658834It honestly makes no sense
>>98658778Fug I'm remembering I waited for like a year before I could get my hands on some Eightbound
>>98658830>>98658490You can find him on minifreemarket. All I can say. Just do some searching and you'll find stuff.
>>98657346I was reading the Sisters' 10th Codex and was surprised how poor is some art on one of the first dozen pages. I am not talking about Blanche here, who is the OG that has been with the company since Jesus' death. I mean this trash. All those cluttered details might make it hard to read for an average guy but if you pay attention to the actual people painted there, you will notice this is NOT professional quality. It looks like something out of early Warhammer, yet it clearly was commissioned recently. I am surprised GW was so cheap that they couldn't hire an actual professional for one of the first paintings in the contemporary Codex, a multibillion company certainly can afford to pay $1000 for a nice painting to some pro
Do es /40kg/ buy from the official webstore or amazon/ebay? I find the prices on amazon to be significantly less than on the webstore.
>>98658876Just look at their faces, guys. I wouldn't call the person that painted that even a mid tier artist, it's amateur
>>98658879Games Workshop offer trade partners huge discounts as they don't want to be the primary stock holder. It is pretty standard that you can buy 10-20% cheaper elsewhere, and should only go to GW directly for their online only exclusive stuff.
>>98658879eBay/Amazon all day ery day
So going over a bunch of competitive and semi competitive lists that have been posted online, It looks like the game plan this edition is to just Pick a Named Character and a detachment that also does the same thing as that character. Then just back fill the list from there? Back to Hero hammer unless you play an army that doesn't even have enough support to have a viable named character?
>>98658879Discount retailers. I buy from Wayland Games or Games or Gaming Frome in the UK, or from ebay.
>>98658915>or Gamesignore that bit
>>98658919no
>>98658922ok
>>986588793rd party vendors through their own websites. I'm in the US, CMOGames is the best place to order from if you live in the lower 48 IMO, they have free shipping on any order over $50, which happens to be below the price of 1 of most of GW's products, even with the discount, so you end up with it every time and get your shit in like 2-3 days.Prices vary on Amazon because it's a marketplace platform, not a vendor itself. I only buy single sprues (usually to get 2 tanks out of 1 kit) or army lot bundles on eBay. GW itself I only go to for things I cannot find elsewhere, which is a very short list.I know "ew reddit" but the "Warhammer 40k Retailers List" post on r/warhammer40k is very good to find places to buy from depending in your country/region and shows that store's flat discount rate.
>>98658914We're not really in a new edition until the marines codex is out.
>>98658914I wouldn't take anything other than orks as indicative of what list building willbe like as they are the only ones with a new Codex so far.
>>98658914>>98658937>>98658938The Space Marine codex will absolutely be a litmus test of what the edition will look like.
>>98658757Plus two of those factions (EC and WE) barely don't really have any good shooting units besides this.
Does anyone know where to find the rules for this I think narrative matchup. It may have been community created I don't know. I remember going into my LGS and they had this rules printed there back in 8th edition.It was basically an ambush scenario. One of the players is the ambusher and the other one is the target. The ambusher has 20% more units than the target. The ambusher would set up from the two long table edges. While the target would set up at the edge of the table. The target needs to get their units at the other table edge and once they are beyond that edge they are removed from the battlefield. If the target is able to get more than 50% of their units (in terms of points) out they win. If the ambusher is able to destroy more than 50% of the targets units they win.Anyone played this mode ever?
>>98658938Yeah but like... some people are going to spend the next 6 - 24 months playing with the rules that are out right now because they don't play an army that GW will prioritize.
>>98658988You just typed it up right there
>>98659009Damn bros good shit
>>98658988Crusade has had a couple of scenarios like that, but it doesn't usually have a point disparity so much as forcing you to deploy in weird places or keep part of your army in reserve. I think I remember one in 10th edition and there might have been one in 9th Edition as well though it was part of one of the supplements and I forget which. But as the other Anon said, it's usually fine to just make up your own fun scenarios and play them out as long as you have someone willing to play them out with you for fun.
My ravagers finna get some qwussy this weekend
>>98659009God I'm so glad sallyfag doesnt post his shitty paintjobs here anymore
>>98659051Permanent meant Permanent, decalfag
>>98659051He does and it's better than the nothing you've ever painted in your life, keep seething /v/ermin
>think about trying contrast paint to quickly base stuff>think back to most of the times I've seen people use contrast in here>stop thinking about contrast
>>98659009What was the theme for this one? trying to remember why I wasnt in it.
>>98659067I thought sally poster got banned too, iirc?I post here on and off an have not seen them in a while
>>98659083Kitbash
>>98659084nope, pure delusion on your part
>>98659078They’re pretty useful
>>98659009I like how the faggot who made the collage thought people wouldn't notice he put himself on it twice
>>98659102Yeah i confused sallies with lamenters for some reason, i need to go to bed
>>98659104Who, what?
>>98657639Does that combat patrol include the "new wave serpent" kit that includes the falcon alternative? Or does it only throw in wave serpent old kit?
>>98659113bottom right and the one above it. its so obvious its the blue ork poster.
>>98657926> mold-slipped dire avenger headPure kino, anon
>>98659113tech terminator and world eaters terminator
>>98659086Oh thats why I think I was scared to try actually kitbashing at the time.I did do some later down the line. Still proud of this one.
>>98659142>himselfis it confirmed collageanon owns models? either way, iirc that dude asked to share two kitbashes and collageanon said it was good. I absolutely love and appreciate him, but he honestly has trouble saying no.
>>98659142From the thread
Has anyone here electroplated their minis? And if so what was it like?
>>98659161oh well shit >>98659170 I guess I just made it up lol.
>>98659054That wasn’t him and you damn well know that
>>98659171Someone in /wip/ used some machine to coat a necron with 25nm of pure atomic gold once, if that counts.https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/63511709/#q63512313
>>98659170he badly lied to cover his ass
>>98659191yeah, there’s been some weird schizo who’s hated sallyfag for a while, but its still funny to call him decalfag even if he isn’t.
>>98659201lmao okay anon, whatever you want to believe
Titan-class squig model when? It has art in the new codex.
>>98659220Sadly the time of art always being real models is over
When will Thousand Sons get a refresh? Their kits are the oldest of the Cult Legions now.
What should I use as a base for my corsair HQ conversion?
>>98659170Pretty sad but we gotta support the guy ya know?
Does anyone make decent warhammer scale desants? All I can find are the old valhallans or catachan, which are nice but cost £20 per model, actual historical stuff which are always even more squished than warhammer designs, and the OLD old RT107 which are a little too far divorced from modern designs to work (even as humans in power armour instead of space marines)
>>98659247permanent
>>98659244No because that would be Heresy
>>98658879I don't really buy from the GW webstore unless it's something like MTO models. ill buy larger boxes on ebay but for regular 50-70 dollar kits I get them from my LGS.
>>98659247What
>>98658879Never from GW webstore unless it's the only place for that specific model. I will either buy used from ebay and such. And if it's a new unit then it's from one of the two local LGS' I have, since they both have a 10% discount over GW prices. Plus my local area doesn't have a GW store so it's also showing my support for my LGS' where I can play.
>>98659229tzaangors refresh soon
>>98659170>decide to read thread>mutie crying about getting bullied and pretending to be other people to defend himselfI’m kind of a newfag, but holy fuck, how long has this been going on for? it’s like reading a thread from yesterday.
>>98659284A year and a half?Two years?I'm not sure anymore honestly
>>98659252If you want guard, the Centaur comes with 4 bodies that can be used for this purpose, but they're meant to be sat in its rear compartment so the poses aren't perfect, and there's only 4 of them, but they're new Cadians.Otherwise I can't really help, sorry. You want bodies posed as if they're leaning/lying on the vehicle, 99% of models are posed for action (standing, shooting, running, etc) so you're already looking for a niche inside of a niche unless you get into posing STLs for printing your own.>desantsI'm so glad I learned Russian so I knew what the fuck you were talking about, this is not a word used in English outside of history nerd spaces.
I have friend that might be interested in 40K. What is the better first game for them? A Combat Patrol game or something like a 500 point game?
>>986592843 years
>>98659067>He doesSad I was hoping he would've killed himself by now
>>98659313500 point game, combat patrol is wildly unbalanced
>>98659078They look decent if you know how to use them. Unfortunately most people just slop them on
>>98659313A 500 point game where you hand-hold through the rosters on both sides to ensure each side is fair and not too skewed would be ideal. Don't go "I'm bringing 3 Leman Russ" for example (which you can do at exactly 500 points btw), make sure both lists are built to play comparably to each other without much skew either way.Just saying "any combat patrol" leaves a lot of variables where someone could get the wrong impression via buying a good/bad combat patrol box and steamrolling/getting shit on every game, respectively.
>>98659313ork/marine starter set
>>98659310That's about the conclusion I came to, yeahI was a bit shocked at just how slim the pickings are even when you go to 3d prints, so I was hoping they were maybe all hidden under some esoteric keyword I wasn't using
>>98659339Reminds me of a conversation I hadMe:>I don't really like a lot of the speed painting techniques, but I have had some success with painting the mini in greyscale then using a contrast over the top.Them:> I agreeimmediately after>Zenithal
>>98659313I wouldn't worry too much about balance for early learning games, I think combat patrol is fine. Some are horribly balanced, my first game was GSC Combat Patrol vs Blood Angels CP, the ones from the 9th. I tabled my opponent hard. But in any case it's a quick game system to learn the core mechanics, phases etc. Here's another Combat Patrol vs. the old CSM one.
>>98659161at least one person did two models for this collage too
>>98659373If you want marines you *might* be able to get away with cannibalizing bike kitsHH Scimitar Jetbikes are a separate dude that you attach to the bike, and so are Chaos Bikers. Those are obviously a sitting position, but ymmv on how far you can kitbash them.Resin alternatives to the above I just listed would obviously be cheaper as well, and might even have better poses.GSC Jackals are a similar situation for the same reason.You should also be able to bash some guard heavy weapon squad soldiers to be in "sitting" poses instead of kneeling depending on your wont to do so.Do still check around the various proxy and recast places, things get put under weird verbiages to avoid the C&D hammer even when the words don't matter like "biker."
>>98659394Who on that one?
>>98659284None of what you referenced is me btw you fat retard
>>98659130I can't say with 100% certainty, but reading the product description on my lgs site is says the wave serpent can alternatively be built as a falcon, and my LGS is generally pretty good with these things.
Which chaos god is more representative of scat play? Nurgle or Slaanesh?
>>98659484slaanesh. nurgle worshippers just has scat included that as a consequence of wasting away, and a tool for spreading more disease while while slaanesh worshippers are taking activd sexual pleasure. they likely do have tons of infighting over this distinction though.
>>98659421the titan and the battlesuit are by the same person
>>98659510You are wrong anon, the titan is by the guy with the really flat cheese spread tau.Neither of the battlesuits on there are his.
James! There's only one way to save 40k! Release the Hrud!
>>98659161I'm still so happy with how the LIMITED wolf turned out alongside the Tson.
Don't mind me. Just perusing the pages of the greatest edition of 40k ever. 11th edition is a pile of shit in comparison. Return to fundamentalism. This is like the bible and 11th edition is like those tranny versions of Christianity with womans priests and pride flag altars.
>>986594841000% Slaanesh, it has nothing to do with Nurgle. It's a depraved fetish, not a manifestation of despair and death.
>>98659563>This is like the bible and 11th edition is like those tranny versions of Christianity with womans priests and pride flag altars.Holy based comparison
>>98659563Iron take alert!
>>98659563and your contribution to the thread aside from posting your codex?
>>98659563Based templar bro!
>>98659576>codex newfag please shutup veterans are talking
>>98659563
>>98659576Bro is so fucking new he started with 11th and doesn't even know what a codex is yet
Should I quit 11th edition to play worlo classic plus?
>>98659563Fortunately my community has a 5th edition group going, but I like both. It's like SCBW vs SC2.
>>98659563I kneel king
>samefagging harder than fecalfag
>>98659585>>98659603actually, I don’t play the game at all, I only read the codices, and never bothered to learn what the main rulebook is called. I just assumed it would also be called a codex.
Goodnight anons
>>98659557Funny I thought it looked like shit
>>98659632what are they looking at?
>>98659637That's because I was copying the decalfags style
>>98659627>actually, I don’t play the game at allNeither do any of the other retards in these threads
>>98659640Heretics.
>>98659567>>98659572>>98659576>>98659578>>98659597>>98659603>>98659622>>98659623>>98659627Actually none of these are me. If you enjoyed 40k back then you know without a doubt that it is superior to what we have now.>>98659624
>>98659637Permanent meant permanent.
>>98659624Nah I'm a different anon, I'm certain there are more of us. Goyim's Wokeslop FEARS the 4th edition revival movement.
>>98659624Proof
>>98659563>jarvis I’m low on (you)s>>98659616Iunno 11th is aight
>>98659564Of course, foolish of me to believe wallowing in filth and refuse has any relation to Nurgle, who is well known for being the chaos god of obsessive hand washing.
>>98659641must have been torture knowing you could do the model so much more justice, and yet still went on slopping on a poorly applied wash and covering him with decals. thank you for your service.
>>98659657
>>98659661don’t be a retard, scat is sexual while wallowing in filth is a lifestyle in of its own.
>>98659668STDs are Nurgle's creation
>>98659667Ok bro, you can live in your deluded little bubble. I get it, you joined in the last few years. But those of us around back then can all admit 40k was much much better back then compared to today.
>>98659667dear god…
>>98659646I did, I just know when blatant samefagging is happening
>>98659672dude literally every fanbase says that about their games.You think people didn't bitch about 8th edition when it came out?
>>98659668Scat, as in shit by itself, is Nurgle's deal. It's waste and decay that demonstrates the cycle of life by becoming the catalyst for bacterial growth and fertilizing soil.Scat -play- on the other hand is Slaanesh, because it;s not so much the sexuality as it is the intensity of both the physical and mental stimulation of the subject matter.
>>98659680Gork and Mork tier distinction.
>>98659677>You think people didn't bitch about 8th edition when it came out?They did, because 8th was also total shit compared to 4th. Even compared to 7th in terms of core rules. 7th had a balance issue and allies fucked it, but the core rules were far superior to 8th onwards because they had the same skeleton as 4th/3rd.
>>98659142>>98659161I usually never post during the month but I just want to say that the duplicate submission was my bad. That anon isn't me and I'll be very sad if he gets any grief from this. I am another modelposter though but I'll never reveal who I am. I don't want any clout or power or anything. I just want the thread to have a good time.
>>98659683I look forward to the 500 page BL novel in which Nurgle and Slaanesh challenge each other to a Abrahamian test of which one of them the scat fetishists pray to most.
>>98659687I tried to like 8th but the loss of blast templates, armour facings, initiative, etc was all so lame. I liked the subfaction rules it added to everyone but that was about it.
>>98659689fair enough, I appreciate you keeping truly anonymous while still doing a lot for board culture, very humble stuff. do you enter your own models in the collage? either way, while you’re here, I’m not sure if you saw, but some anons made some recommendations for themes earlier in the month.psyker Old Good versus New Good “Paint your favorite sculpt that has had multiple versions and pick your favorite version, whether the newest one or an older one.”ElevatedTreasureSneakyVictory
>>98659705>I tried to like 8th but the loss of blast templates, armour facings, initiative, etc was all so lameI completely agree, it was the stripping of many aspects of what made 40k a wargame in favor of it becoming a board game t sport.
>>98659694I would read it.
>>98659710Yes, I've participated in the collage on occasion. I'll add the suggestions to the next poll, thanks anon.
Hi I'm from Israel and my favorite faction is Salamanders
>>98657558This is the way to make Guard good>10/20 man guardsman blobs down to 65/130>Artillery pieces made not shit, give them a detachment that works around 11's Indirect rules (Maybe something as simple as "Hits on 5s if it can't see/Hits on 3+ if another unit can see it")>Tanks generally seem alright for now, but buff Leman Russ Tank Commanders so they're actually worth running and aren't overshadowed by Rogal Dorn Commanders>Give Lord Marshal Drier actually good rules so people want to play Death Riders for onceAlso something something Chimeras but Transports in general seem kinda fucked in 11th, that's not just a Guard thing.
>>98657426>Battle sisters>lacking anti tankHow can this be? Meltaspam the army somehow needs more anti tank? Did the game change somehow that the quintessential anti tank weapon doesn’t work?I only play homebrew midhammer now.
>>98657426>either give them 2W or T4That's so fucking gay, fuck off
>>98659761Melta was overpowered in 9th to the point where no one brought vehicles by the end of it (thanks in large part to Sisters spamming them) so it got massively nerfed in range and strength
>>98659553>only way to save 40k is to release a meme "totally not skaven bro" xeno armyOR, we do something far simpler. We, uh, kill the marinepigs.
>>98659775They're not skaven at all.
>>98657558>Scions go to 2W>Other infantry gets a points drop or army wide rule that make infantry in cover get +1sv ontop of -bs for attacker> Artillery betterIDK seems about it. The infantry cover buff might be too good but really they probably need it.
Buying some Ork Boyz to kitbash into Special Weapon Boyz, do I buy just the orks for $29 or $35 for the boyz and 5 grots?
>>98659793That image makes me happy for some reason.Buy the grots too.
>>98659761Meltas are S9, many tanks are T10+. So you're hitting on 4s, wounding on 5s and need (on average) 3 damaging hits to kill a Russ, 4 to kill a Dorn.
Tyranid warriors worth it or nah?
>>98659811We won't really know until the codex.
>>98659811From what I've heard, not really. Lets hope they get a buff in the codex with how stat bloat is going.
Things dont really need buffs the game is still too lethal as it is
>>98659826Buffs aren't only to damage, dumbass.
Guard players, I am new to GW and their ways, what do we think the risks of buying Catachan Heavy Weapons Squads before the star army codex drops are cause they did survive the start of 11th?
>>98659761Sisters struggle with anti-tank in terms of repeated uses.Melta units (Dominions, Retributors) are all t3w1 and therefore incredibly squishy, meaning you get 1 chance to do a jump-out on something before said unit of meltas dies, so you have issues against tankspam (ie guard, who can fit 13 LR tanks into 2000 points right now).The only anti-tank options that have any amount of staying power in the SoB roster are Morvenn Vahl-led Paragon suits (which is why they're in EVERY list, and even then they're still rather squishy) and slightly-underpowered Castigators (s10ap-1 shooting at t12 vehicles most of the time).Meltas are slowly becoming an anti-marine weapon as well due to stat bloat. You can manage into a Russ (t11) still, but into a Land Raider (t12) or something else at that value it starts to get rough.>>98659850Moderately high for the entire Catachan line, I'd be cautious unless I were collecting or finishing a Catachan list to justify the sunken cost.They dropped Predators, Vindicators the Razorback and Centurions despite the edition starting, anything is on the chopping block and Catachans are the oldest ones in the Guard list that have easy replacements already in production.
>>98659850>cause they did survive the start of 11th?Means nothing, the Codex is what matters. Catachans will probably get updates or things fucked around with/squatted, I would wait.
>>98659841Bro if you keep talking to me like that I'm gonna kiss you
>>98659876Yeah you're gonna kiss me on the knuckles when I sock you one.
>>98659865Okay. I thought things were cool but I learned units like the jungle fighters are from 1999 and then I saw what they legends with the edition. Glad I decided to buy slowly, can wait to see what they do. Thanks
>>98659156This guy is very cool, anon. You can do it if you try, always remember that.
Are there any ranges we are expecting a lot of units to get sent to legends in? Or is it just kike a couple odd units that are long overdue?
>>98659156I feel like there's a few too many colors going on here, I would have opted for lightning blue for the claws, but otherwise very cool.
>>98657558Guard is fine, it's just the players are shit.
>>98659883You can't punch shit with those skinny arms and that girly waist
>>98659900Turn your monitor on lil bro
>>98659900>>98659907Get a room you two
>>98659884GW squats whatever they want to with no regard for anything, it's their game and enough of the playerbase are just ball-garglers who eat whatever GW tells them, too afraid of "difficulty finding games" to go off of the current-edition plantation.Older models are the most likely to go, either replaced or discontinued. Catachans as a whole aren't a big seller for guard currently, and each of their options has a sidegrade in Cadians (the current guard push) so I can't see GW intentionally keeping Catachans around.They also promised a Steel Legion refresh in a few years, so they're itching to scrap *something* from the guard list to shorten it up.
>>98659914The fact that they released the Spectre Recon team as Cadians instead of Catachans is probably a bad sign for the jungle boys if we're being honest, but I could also see GW getting that release out of the way first before also doing a big Catachan refresh so they can double-dip and get people to buy both.
What is the easiest way to make plastic models feel somewhat like metal? I don't like how light and cheap they feel compared to metal models which feel solid. Does adding a coin or something for weight help? I don't think you can fill the cavities of plastic models with molten metal to add weight unfortunately....
>>98659939anon I think you might have autism
>>98659935Yeah I'm gonna go into stuff like artillery teams and all the sentinels I want and leave the other three HWS who can use mortars till last while hoping for a refresh, it'd be a shame to lose cool looking Rambo models
>>98659313750 -> 1000 -> 2000 is what most people are doing for progression. I think 750 is a good sweet spot for starting.
>>98659939>Molten metalYou're insane but I respect it. I also prefer metal. I think your best bet is coins in the base, yes.
>>98659954Yeah but most combat patrols don't give you 750 points worth of stuff. They seem to want to use their own army rather than use one of my three 2k+ point armies, which I offered to just let him use one of them for a game.
>>98659957I mean I would do it but it would just melt the model so not going to work. Part of me considers getting the tools so I can recast stuff in metal and then just straight up recasting the plastic models in metal. Has anyone ever tried that?Plus some of my metal models in my armies are becoming very very expensive and I need more of them for my armies to be complete.
I think marines losing Oath is a nerf. People take it for granted because everyone plays marines and we're used to it. It's full rerolls to hit and +1 to wound. It's actually insane, and is stronger than a good number of other army's rules.That being said, I am worried about the changes. As others have said, increasing points costs by a measly amount means they have like one less unit on the field, which is more than worth it to have +1 S and +1 T and better guns. In the past I said "Don't worry, points costs will balance it" but recently the more I think about it, the more I realize that like 1, maybe 2 fewer units don't make up for significant stat increases. It is still a net buff.Their new rule is basically scoot+shoot or scoot+charge or fall back+act, which is one of the three parts of Gladius detachment just as an army rule now, and so that frees up more detachment choices rather than everyone taking Gladius. I think this is a fine change. More choice is good. But I think it is overall a nerf. Having Oath as an army rule and taking Gladius is stronger than having Gladius as an army rule and taking some other detachment. Most detachments are weaker than Oath. So we hope that this is what actually offsets the stat buffs, not just points increases. Marines won't be full rerolls to hit every single turn, they'll do something else that is weaker.I'm pretty unbiased since I play several armies and I don't really identify with marines as my main one. I am interested in a balanced experience for everyone. I want GW to update other armies faster rather than having some people wait a year+, and I want every army to be as close to 50% win rate as possible. But I also believe that win rate isn't everything. For example, a book can be oppressive and unfun to play against, but still lose half their games since the opponent abandons fighting and just scoots around with Recon missions. That's still an unhealthy, unfun game. But GW might say "look, healthy 50% win rate".
>>98659974Go for it. Just keep an eye out for james' corporate death squads.
>>98659986Yeah I don't fucking care
I plan on basing my Cadian Tank Army on the 2nd SS Panzer Division Das Reich with historically accurate decals, camo, and markings. Wish me luck.
>>98660002Yeah we know you are decalfag
>>98659986that's the reasonable take and that's how I feel as well. we'll have to wait and see the extent of the points increase and how much losing oath really matters. maybe it will all be fine.
>>98660002Good luck chad, HH.
>>98660012That guy doesn't even have models. Let lil bro chud out all over the place I say. If the execution is good then it's fine in my book.
>>98659897I give all my nightlords green soul weapons, I think its cool.
>>98660002>>98660025As a genuine Nazi I think it's a little boring to do exact historic accuracy with 40k, the hallmark of the setting is that you mix different historical periods and cultures and put them through this tens of thousands of years future filter IIIN SPAAACE to make something new. Inspired by and evoking Panzer Division aesthetics and heraldry? Yes cool. But add something else alongside it, don't just do a 1:1 rip of one point in history.
>>98659935>Spectre Recon team as Cadians instead of CatachansThey could have been literally any other regiment (Tanith, perhaps?) and it'd be more welcome than more Cadians, but GW doesn't care about what the consumer actually wants.I honestly don't see Catachans getting a refresh at all. They're very far from the current pop culture zeitgeist, there's not much demand for them beyond metagaming with 3 more HWS in your army. Plus they promised Steel Legion, so *if* Catachan are getting new models, they're at least 2nd in line, most likely 3rd-5th in line behind:>Steel Legion (confirmed to be coming)>Valhallans>Vostroyans>ElysiansAnd it's not likely that we get any of these following the SL within a decade of right now.If the SL models are a kill team instead of a full model line I'm going to be *rather* cross with GW and their insistence on antagonizing their customers.
>>98660039Steel Legion genuinely don't need anything but a single infantry kill team and an upgrade kit for the closed-compartment Basilisk though.
>>98659965No, but playing with the contents of a combat patrol is really gay, you don’t get any vehicles or monsters.
>>98660002Mine are based on the 36th Waffen Grenadier Division
>>98660052>you don’t get any vehicles
>>98660066Noticing the way GW takes the photo from a corner angle so you see some of the models on the side of the box and it creates the illusion there's more of them, like restaurants using mirrors to make their interiors look bigger and more impressive.
>>98659986yeah that's all true but I still don't have faith in gw. they're going to make something too good and it will be lame for everyone else for a few months
>>98660066I hope we get a better combat patrol this time round gsc bros
>>98660043Unless they get a detachment like Scions have that makes them battleline and gives them a gimmick for jumping into and out of Chimeras, they should be a battleline unit by default.Making them battleline would also open us up to so many nice things, like>Chimera refresh>Steel Legion HWS that has a unique-to-it not!MG42 tripod-mount multi-las and not!Panzerfaust missile launchers>single character officer so you can have a leader ride around in the Chimera with the Legionnaires>Basilisk refresh because that model is a 2004 re-tool of a 1995 kit and it really needs one>actual melee guard (that also has explosives) in Armageddon Ork HuntersI don't want Yarrick and 30 boys to be all I get in a 2k point game. I want to *actually* play Steel Legion again.
>>98660081>Nooticer nootices this but doesn't nootice that the factual number of models included is also printed plain as day on the box>>98660089I know it's rough to compare to the one that came with a truck, but this one also had 10 acolytes, and anything offering acolytes at a discount has value for collecting the army.
Abaddon is a sympathetic character. He's a smart guy who is just using chaos to help his brothers overthrow a tyrant.
>>98660081you may be retardedthis line of thinking also leads you to defend GW replacing the sick art on boxes with shitty pictures instead so stop that
>>98660098ADB pls go, your writing is terrible and you will never make abadabbadingdong an interesting or sympathetic character no matter how hard you dickride the cunt.
>>98660101Other people have written Abaddon.
>>98660031That is cool
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>>98660066One marine solos this.
>>98660094>but doesn't nootice that the factual number of models included is also printed plain as day on the boxRetard that isn't the point, it's a psychological effect.
