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>Previously
>>98671302

>TQ
Who is the best mom in Magic?
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>>98676520
>Family edition
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>>98676522
I really like Evil Garruk's design. It and Liliana Blanco's are peak.
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SEXOOO SEXOOO SEXOOO WITH WITCH SEXOOO

Mr drawfag man please post the version without the cat in the way
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>>98676538
>Evil Garruk's design
>Liliana Blanco
Then there's blue chill Chandra's design. YUCK
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>>98676617
Yeah, they didn't even try with Chandra. Even with boobanon's upgrade her design is kinda meh.
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>>98673449 #
Devout Decree
>>98673456 #
Flash freeze
>>98673462 #
Noxious Grasp
>>98673466 #
Fry or Combust but not really. But exile effect does hose black/green better than uncounterability.
>>98673469 #
No equivalent. I expected something like Veil of Spring.
I don't like how green is so different from other echoes.
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Are we going to find out the contents of those new Foundations and Jace precons this week?
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>>98676520
is that a genuine yank tranny depicted on that card?
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>>98676910
new Foundations?
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>>98676964
It'll probably be all reprints
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She's got glasses so pointy she could do TTGL cosplay
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>literally multiverse level threat
>also entire new school
>Jace drops dead in the same set and makes space for Emrakul
yeah about that UW writing
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>This is all wrong. I am incomplete, unfulfilled, inchoate. There should be blossoms, not barren resentment. The soil was not receptive. It is not my time. Not yet." The way she said, yet, sent a shiver through Jace's neck. She resumed her writing, blotting out a large section of dried ink.
>A voice came back to him, her voice as he had watched his chess pieces stab and kill each other. They are all my pieces, Jace Beleren. They always were. I just no longer want to play.
>Tamiyo's voice was near panic. "As this monster took over my body and read a scroll, a scroll that should have brought devastation to everything on this plane...instead it fueled a spell that trapped herself here. How did that happen, Jace? Why did it happen? What did we just do?"
All according to keikaku.
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>>98677139
>Jace transitions into Tam
>instead of the Jacetice League it's now the Tamvengers
this thread will slop up that renton wa writing don't worry
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SURE THE PIGGIES LOOK EXTRA SLOPPY TODAY
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>>98677041
in real life they are thugs and criminals, in mtg they are angels and scientists
real fantasy hours here
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>>98677170
is Giada not just a tanned Italian?
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>>98677176
southern italy is basically zimbabwe
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>>98677164
Excuse me?
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>>98676964
>>98677041
pretty sure they've explicitly said it's all reprints in the mono colour ones, yeah
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>>98676520
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>zeta set bringing new players to pauper locally
>might finally get a weekly tournament at one of the stores
hell yeah
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>/mtg/ still hasn't figured out that the reason wotc is now releasing mono colored commander decks full of reprints is because they realized that edh players have been snapping up your draft chaff and bulk rares to sell 'beginner' edh decks to casuals for insane markup and they want in on the action
you bunch of retards haha
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>>98677307
who cares
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>>98677307
No it's because they are planning to put EDH on Arena. They will do the redeeming skeem they had before, you buy paper commander deck, you get the code so you can get it on Arena too.
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>>98677139
>>98677141
Wait is Tam Tamiyo I don't know what I'm reading.
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>>98677163
I know people who say Wings of Fire is peak literature so I'm sure there will be Magic fans defending this in 5 years just like WAR. MOM is already showing signs of this where people are saying it makes complete sense because Elesh Norn was arrogant so that's why she was extremely stupid.
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>>98677368
The art is Tam. The story is Innistrad Tamiyo.
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>>98677330
Commander on Arena is still easily 1+ year away. They are honestly better off making an entirely new client for it, I doubt Arena will properly handle a 4 player Commander game (not to mention it is missing all of the Commander only cards...).
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>>98677397
>missing all of the Commander only cards
That didn't stop them from putting Pioneer on Arena.
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>>98677375
Didn't Lukka get compleated accidentally or some shit like that?
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>>98677412
>5 years later they are no closer to having Modern

Trust me, they suck at adding cards, especially with Commander nonsense mechanics.
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>>98677427
They don't need 100% of the cards. Just like with Pioneer they need "competitive parity".

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-goryo-s-vengeance
I look at this deck, and it seems only the titular Goryo's Vengence is not on Arena.
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>>98677452
What do you think, which one is the top and which one's the bottom?
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Is selfcest possible in the Echoverse?
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>>98677486
not only possible
but encouraged
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>>98677490
The boomer in me says you splash for this 99% of the time is that still how magic works?
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Between the witchstalkers and the situation with Jiang Yanggu & Mowu and now this, I think Jace might just hate dogs. They don't seem to have been treated very well by his multiverse.
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>>98677512
jace just became a chink just like the guy you get your fake cards from, no big deal
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>Koth, the Geomancer

>Koth hails from the plane of Mirrodin. For years, he used his powerful geomancy abilities to sunder stone and forge weapons in the fight against the Phyrexians. Koth fought with an unending desire for peace and freedom, desperately trying to undo the work of New Phyrexia alongside his brave Mirran comrades.

>Now, Koth finally has peace. Though he remains forever scarred from the war on Mirrodin, he works tirelessly as a father figure for the remaining Mirrans. On Zhalfir, he and his people adjust to a new way of life. He erected a monument to remember his fallen allies and looks toward a bright new future for those that remain.


>Koth of the Homestead

>A proud father and farmer, Koth has known nothing but peace his entire life. Mighty orchards of steelfruit grow on his farm, vibrant gold glistening as far as the eye can see on his idyllic plane of Mirrodin. Koth uses his protection magic to tend his trees, cultivate his fruit, and ensure the peoples of Mirrodin thrive.

>Each year, Koth's family hosts a large harvest gathering that welcomes citizens from across Mirrodin. Koth is always grateful to see his friend Malach return with his merchant caravan. The great creator Karn also joins the harvest gathering, sharing incredible stories with Koth and others.

>As a young man, Koth couldn't help but wonder what it might have been like to traverse the Multiverse as Karn had mentioned. Years later, he couldn't even believe he'd considered it. What plane could be more perfect than Mirrodin?
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>>98677452
>Not only are diamonds nigh unbreakable, they also scratch everything in their wake. Teyo Verada knows this firsthand. After witnessing a diamondstorm tear apart his childhood village, Teyo was determined to find a way to harness that destructive power himself.

>Teyo cloaked himself in shield magic so that he could wander into diamondstorms unharmed. Over and over, he subjected himself to the worst natural disasters of Gobakhan—and every time, he came back a little stronger, his geometric "shields" a little sharper. His masterwork? Slicing an entire city to ribbons as easily as snipping thread.

>Teyo has honed himself into the perfect, sharp-edged diamondblade assassin. There are few on Gobakhan who can stand between him and something he wants.
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>>98677368
Tam (Tamira) might have been named after Tamiyo. It's never actually confirmed, but it would make sense as Jace did consider Tamiyo a friend.
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Bitch
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So Empower Jace has to be a frontrunner of worst mechanics ever printed right?

Even if it's not mechanically the worst, I can't imagine a world where it's relevant in any format, and it's so hilariously parasitic it will never get any decent support.

>Inb4 JTMS
We haven't had a relevant planeswalker in any format in years sans Flip Ajani, Flip Tamiyi and maybe LotV for people still playing Boomer Jund.
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>>98677485
Wayne Reynolds > rest
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Reeking Rat - 1B

Creature - Zombie Rat (Common)

When this creature enters, each opponent discards a card.

1/1

As Liliana sent the horde swarming against her doppelganger, the sound of claws skittering on stone sang in her ears like a symphony
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>>98677561
empower is miles better than day/night no matter how much you hate the jacetice league
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>>98677561
It's probably there mostly for limited, like most mechanics.
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>Jace's last act was to aurafarm by doing a Mufasa
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>>98677553
That's a big syringe
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>>98677561
Empower Jace doesn't even work with JTMS anyway. It only works on tokens. So either copy your JTMS somehow or use the moderately okay Ixalan Jace or the dogshit Zendikar Rising Jace.
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>>98677578
You have big aids.
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>>98677577
>jace's gender reassignment surgery, the card
>simic too, the color pair of trannies
bravo wotc so stunning and brave
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>>98677568
yare yare daze
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>>98677527
>What plane could be more perfect than Mirrodin?
talk about rubbing salt on a wound
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>>98677568
Double Bulgar...Pioneer bros? Rats?
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>>98677577
having a planeswalker spark means nothing anymore
people can lose them, give them, or even win them as prizes...

fuck off, WotC
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>>98677561
I'd generally put it on par with Investigate or Map tokens, where it's just some cheap token that could turn into a bit of draw or card selection later. The more parasitic part is the cards that grant additional abilities to all your Planeswalkers while having Empower Jace attached.

Ironically you've listed the thing they could have done to make it actually interesting, which would be to remove 'Token' from the reminder text so that you could stack up a bunch of free counters on an actual Jace card. The only card I can see being a problem with a non-token Jace is Jace's Machinations.
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>>98677561
Of course not.
Gotcha, Day/Night, Ring tempts you, Venture into something, are all monumentally worse.
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>>98677550
>I will have our brother live forever
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>>98677656
Didn't he turn out to be an asshole anyway after becoming a lich?
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Should've resparked Liliana instead. Would've at least made sense of why she was kidnapped in the first place. Also she's worth it.
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>>98677690
Who doesn't turn into an asshole after becoming a lich?
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>>98677636
>Gotcha
why even consider a UN mechanic?
add stickers to the list as well, then
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>>98677696
liliana's story is essentially over even though we never got any satisfying answers about the raven man
this is a recurring theme with all the desparked walkers - wotc feels there's no point anymore in giving them 'the spotlight'
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>>98677702
People who already were assholes before?
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>>98677504
No but izzet prowess might play it.
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>>98677713
They kept bringing back jace after he could have finished his arc any number of times just to kill him off, so don't worry, they'll kill liliana off soon too
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>>98677632
Remember when WotC did the spark rupture because they acknowledged there were too many planeswalkers after WAR and they didn't feel special anymore?
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>>98677732
>They kept bringing back jace after he could have finished his arc
what arc? not only did we never go to vryn jace never had a goal to begin with, he aint trying to be hokage that's for sure
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>>98677734
walkers will feel more special once they only focus on a few of them and scale them to work better in edh
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>>98677748
You mean like the Jace that draws 3x as many cards in EDH?
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>>98677713
>we never got any satisfying answers about the raven man
The plot point was dropped because of one spiteful Italian.
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>>98677754
yeah and it only took them this long to make something like that, better late than never i guess
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>>98677732
No they won't, she's female. Can't do that.
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>>98677771
>T3feri
>K4rn
>Warset
>UEotS
>ESS
>Hitler (Kaito)
All relatively recent walkers that are EDH playable.
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>>98677527
Where are people finding these descriptions?
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>>98677789
>mention that wotc has focus on a few of them to make the story cohesive and so that casuals won't be confused on 'who to follow'
>you then mention a bunch of side characters
the only guy that's 100% guaranteed to remain relevant is teferi for obvious reasons, and he's more of a gandalf than a main character
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>>98677480
No, they need 100% of the cards. That is Arena's problem. If it doesn't provide the paper experience digitally then they didn't go far enough. That is why it is only F2P who make up the playerbase, people (outside of whales) who buy cards buy paper and play paper.
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>>98677847
Ugin and Bolas will be getting a larger romantic role in the story in order to pander to gay furries.
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>>98677860
i already knew wotc wants to pander to furries the moment ajani was created way back in lorwyn, yes i'm that old
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>>98677632
>people can lose them, give them
That has been a thing since original mirrodin at least.
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>>98677656
If you fuck your brother from another uniserve is it still incest?
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>>98677895
Yes, actually.
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Nothing beats ripping a fresh pack

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1789490675726821.webm
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Play premodern
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Hey anon, your movie finally came out
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>>98677577
>5 mana, shuffle some cardboard around in most cases
Awful, awful card. Even if you get one of the "big scary" walkers with this, you needed to go through a hell of a lot of uncontested steps to get there to do it.
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>>98677968
>Fakes a godpack a minute after explaining what one is
This guy is just sad. How long til he has a CWC mom event?
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>>98677976
I'd rather play pauper instead.
I mean, what the fuck is the appeal of playing with a CLOSED card pool?
The metagame will eventually be solved. And then what? Either play the tier 1 deck or lose? Wow, great gameplay.
Fuck off and eat you monkey soup, favelafaggot.
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>>98678006
>I mean, what the fuck is the appeal of playing with a CLOSED card pool?
yeah now you get to play with random rarityshifted cards that can upend pauper at any point just like a modern horizons set, congrats
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>>98677553
If this was an Elf, it would be Legacy playable. It is still solid but damn it was close to greatness.
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Theorix has recruited Void Lords from Azeroth.
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Wtf Jace
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>>98678046
A shade without the shade ability. Sad.
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Oh great, a flying prowess creature that can cost 1U while having vigilance and the ability to block well.
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>>98678015
Joke's on you, favelanigger. I already had multiple playsets of those cards. Did I specc? No. I had them in my collection, like any respectable mtg player should.
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>>98678071
>he likes standard-like gameplay where the meta can be as fleeting as the wind
funny how at the end of the day the criticism about standard isn't that it rotates a lot, but rather because people are just poor
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>>98678055
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>>98678070
This is going to be obnoxious. Yes, I will pay 1UU for Opt (or whatever 1 mana utility you want) and a 1/5 prowess + vigilance facefucker.
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>>98678091
it's not as good as you think it is
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>>98678086
Yeah. I like that the meta shifts.
Enjoy paying mortgage-tier prices for RL cards REQUIRED to play your made up format. I just wish your favela panel had the guts to go balls-deep and allow only pre-8th printings for the full premodern clown circus experience. But I know you won't, because current reprinting plus fakes (ie. proxies) are the ductape holding your shit format from falling apart.
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>>98678055
>We have Metyr, Mother of Fingers at home.
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am I being schizophrenic, or does this set seem incredibly underpowered? even the mythics revealed so far it are lackluster.
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I like the elf.
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>>98678112
>Yeah. I like that the meta shifts, i'm just too poor to afford REAL formats
ok poorfag enjoy your cope format that can't even have boardwipes haha
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>>98678091
true, but >>98678110
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>>98677561
Dude it's just Amass., it's compelaty fine
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>>98678160
>Needs boardwipes to not lose.
Lol, lmao
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Was the Chandras overlapping a plot point?
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>>98678185
>he locked himself out of certain strategies and effects because he's too poor
>and he's proud of it!
the absolute state of poorfags
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methinks this set tried to spread itself too thin
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>>98678203
Nobody likes to play against draw-go control autists like you
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>>98678192
so he's like Homer from that one episode of The Simpsons?
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>>98678212
>Nobody likes to play against draw-go control autists like you
yeah and that's why wotc made FIRE design for babies like you
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>>98678150
"I'll show her some ropes", etc, etc.
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>>98678220
specify
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>>98678198
>RKF art
>equipment that doesn't completely suck, its kinda good sometimes

Its no Rancor, but then again nothing is.
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>>98678205
It's almost like something of this size should have been a full fucking block instead of a single rushed set
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>>98678205
>>98678246
It needed to at least be two. One for Hexhaven and all the Jace tokens, and then the second where they can show off the entire multiverse of planeswalker doppelgangers and reality shifts.

There's a very clear setup and payoff there for building some suspense and then having the big chaotic conflict.
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>>98678189
It sure wasn't.
Twinned Vision seems decent if you have other ways to cast it like impulse draws, etc.
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>>98678198
This will slot right into my GB poison Pioneer deck.
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>>98678228
Enjoy playing with WotC's self admited design mistakes that were created while the game was still rough and finding its identity. And the cherry on top is that you will *NEVER* have a true "pre-modern" experience since your favela format is still affected by CURRENT rules change such as:
No damage on the stack
No manaburn
Attacking player assigning nonlethal damage
London mulligan.
Lol, lmao even.
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>>98677561
speed is still worse
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>>98678278
>draw-go was a design mistake!
>but damage on the stack, manaburn, free mulligan if you have all land/no land on opening hand (oops all lands is laughing), etc. are all perfect designs!
kekw
and also
>a self-admitted FIRE design cocksucker is ITT
roru rumao imagine being too poor to afford what you really love to play and that pauper is just the cope format that it truly is
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>>98678240
Crayons in the brain one
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>>98678240
you know the one I mean, that one
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>>98678265
post your GB poison pioneer deck
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Why no evil loot, i want to see evil loot fucking die
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>>98678378
In before "Loot is unique and exists outside of the normal universe so therefore he has no mirror" bullshit is revealed via flavour text.
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>>98677713
The Raven Man was Lim-Dul trying to prime Liliana to be his new body because... I think the ring he was stuck in ended up being buried near the Vess estate or some such. It never amounted to much, because Lili basically figured him out and now just happily enjoys not being on Dominaria.
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>>98677577
who the fuck is Tam???
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>>98678391
Jace
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>>98677561
I still dont understand if i can use it to power up a non token Jace planeswalker
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>>98678356
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>>98678071
congrats you live in downtown rio de janeiro?
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>>98678405
I keep forgetting how fucking good Sunslayer is, I should really try to play her more.
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>>98678404
empower is just amass ffs you think amass zombies/orcs/whatever power up your nontoken creatures too?
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>>98678391
Jace's heir and fake daughter who is not to be called his daughter.
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>>98678405
Looks cool. How much does it swing on drawing fynn?
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>>98677561
Thematically, yes. To give it to every colour was a massive mistake. With speed you at least had different effects baked to creatures. Here everyone gets the same stupid blue token plainswalker. It's already lame, and people aren't even playing cards with them.
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>>98678418
Amass can technically be used on nontoken creatures though. It's just that you need a Changeling or something else that has gained the Army creature type.

Empower Jace is explicitly hardcoded to never do anything weird or interesting.
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>all this fuckery touching random planes
>tarkir, ravnica, untouched
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>>98678391
Jace's, uhhh, clone/daughter/successor/new iteration/reincarnation.
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>>98678442
>it's hardcoded
more like they just haven't explored it yet
there's nothing stopping wotc from printing cards that have all walker types/grants walkers all walker types
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>>98678460
No, that wouldn't work. Empower Jace specifically says you put the counters on a Token Jace. A Planeswalker with an ability that gives it all planeswalker subtypes still wouldn't be a token.
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>>98678391
She was introduced to the lore in Lorwyn eclipsed, as a strixhaven student. Yes, jace's successor has been around less than a year, and is a clumsily written perfect girlboss.
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>>98678212
Cute Emika
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>>98678470
>have a walker that has all walker types
>make a token copy of it
>or hell just have a card that makes a token copy of a walker except it has all walker types
>empower now works
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>>98677577
What's the best walker to cheat out, even?
Picrel is the first one that comes to mind since he's fucking obnoxious and can fit in any deck, but you don't even get the cast trigger, and you're saving 2 mana at best if you sack a Tibalt
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>>98678470
Just wait for Return to the Echoverse! Tam, missing her father figure, makes Emrakul throw up the Echoverse so she can team up with crowd favorite Liliana Blanco to revive her dearly departed. One thing she didn't count on: the revival went wrong, and now EVERYONE is a Jace!

>In the same set, Jace is killed again and shot into a black hole, and Tam learns that women don't actually need fathers, fathers need them. She high fives Emrakul.
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>>98678484
I'm not sure there are any that are worth it. Way too much mana to spend and too many hoops to jump through. If you are using Jace tokens to fuel a tutored high powered walker then you had to make the tokens in the first place, spend another 5 mana and sac it (by the way, saccing is not part of the cost, so the walker can be killed in response and you get nothing) and hope the target you want to search for isn't already in your hand or your graveyard.

Legitimately one of the safest and worst "enablers" printed in a very long time. Even if you get this in draft or sealed you can't use it unless you also cracked an actual planeswalker.
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>>98678422
Less so than before. You still have 3 creatures that have toxic on their own. Slasher can just delete opponent on its own too. Serpent Society has basically hexproof if you reach 5 poison, and the force sacrifice ability is often overlooked, it makes the Fell Stinger draw 2 + edict.
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>>98678480
Why does the restriction exist then?
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>>98678449
Reminds me of being the less favorite nephew.
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>>98678519
Empower X on nontokens is a different story when it's the right walker with the right gamewinning ult, basically wotc just doesnt want that kind of gameplay
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>>98678391
Jace and Vraska hypothetical Daughter
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>>98677561
It might as well read 'draw a card' which is actually pretty good
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>>98678537
Except it's just the same thing with extra steps.
>cast Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God
>cast Spark Double
>cast spell with Empower Bolas 3
>use the -8 to win the game
That's going to be a 10+ mana three card combo

Meanwhile
>cast Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God
>cast spell with Empower Bolas 3
>either +1 Bolas and wait a turn cycle, or cast a second Empower Bolas spell
That's either 6+ mana and two cards to win on your next turn (assuming Bolas doesn't get attacked), or at minimum a 7+ mana three card combo.

Not to mention Proliferate effects or cards like Doubling Season that can just let every planeswalker you cast enter with enough counters to ult.
What format in the game is able to handle these other methods of a planeswalker getting accelerate towards a big loyalty ability, but would be unable to handle these late game combos?
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>>98678570
spark double isn't a token copy
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>>98678501
The cheapest Empower Jace effect is still 2 mana just like Tibalt, so you're always always always spending 7 mana minimum
And yeah you're right, all walkers are remarkably.. balanced? Surprinsing, considering the kind of cards they are
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>>98678471
>perfrct
She's really not. She's dumb as fuck, and absolutely vile as a person and selfish. But her entire character arc so far has been betraying her friends and being a dumb dumb
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>>98678570
>boardwipe
>cast walker
>cast a spell that's good enough on its own, except it also has empower (walker type) 5 or whatever, basically enough for a walker to ult and win the game out of nowhere
>people whine that it's shitty gameplay
heavy control decks with walkers as finishers have been done before, how old are you? you need to be 18 to post here
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>>98678600
Did you miss the part where at the end when she gets the spark she becomes perfect and whole? Her entire arc is done. One of the most boring characters in a long time and that is really saying something when it comes to modern Magic stories.
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>>98678579
Then instead of the 4 mana for Spark Double, you cast Applied Geometry. Or Mythos of Illuna. Or any of the other cards that copy permanents generically.
The only difference there is that now, Empower Bolas 3 isn't good enough even with the token.

>>98678608
>heavy control decks with walkers as finishers have been done before,
Yeah, that's my fucking point.
If somebody has enough mana to cast a boardwipe and a planeswalker, and still has mana leftover, then they're already in a game-winning position.
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>>98677577
>>98678484
Paying 5 mana to cheat out a 7-8 mana planeswalker is garbadge. This is a toolbox card only, not a combo/ramp thing.
Maybe some Super Friends version of Copycat could like it? You're already played Oath of Nisa to have prfect mana for planeswalkers
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>Hey guys why doesn't this mechanic let me rapidly put large amounts of loyalty counters on any planeswalker ever printed?
It takes 5 seconds to consider why this might age poorly.
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>>98678643
>and still has mana leftover
turn 4 wipe
turn 5 walker
turn 6 insta ult out of nowhere from a card that's good enough on its own anyway
this isn't complicated anon wotc simply doesn't want that kind of gameplay that blindsides people
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>>98678659
>turn 4 boardwipe
>turn 5 walker
>turn 6, copy the walker, Empower the token, insta ult out of nowhere
Amazing
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>>98678570
>Doubling Season
Notice how WotC never ever worded cards like it again once Planeswalekers became a thing
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>>98678675
And they never brought back Proliferate either. It'd be far too easy to put some extra counters on something.
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>>98678667
yep if you assembled your 3 card combo (walker+token copy+empower) you deserve the win
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>>98678647
I would have maybe seen it if it was an Instant, so at least in a Superfriends deck it could act as a very expensive way to play around removal, or to bait people into wasting attacks into your exposed walker (thus saving you life)
But a 5 mana tutor in Blue seems pretty dogshit
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>>98678070
I’ll never hate kikes enough for stealing Vigilance from White and giving it to blue, while White got nothing in return. Typical kikes.
Free Palestine, Free Mono White.
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>>98677553
Monster Hunter ass bow
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>Theorix produces necromancers, illusionists, all kinds of reality warpers, and cryomancers
A somewhat odd portfolio.
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>>98678868
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>>98678876
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>>98678868
Strictly better imperial Oath?
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>>98678449
I too was hoping for "Narset, Neurotypical Bully" and "Narset, Autism Unbridled".
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>>98678849
>>98678886
> damage to each opponent and you gain life
But why?
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>>98678449
>ravnica
Jace turned the plane's top gentleman detective into a kingpin of crime.
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>>98678940
Missed that one, my bad
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>>98678391
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I was never a fan of Jace, but this looks like a very weak way to get rid of what is (last I checked) their most popular planeswalker.
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>>98678886
Man, I remember when a 4 mana instant exile creature or planeswalker was a rare and Standard playable.
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>>98678849
The card would have legitimately been better (and totally fine) if it was just a Surveil 1 every turn and nothing else.
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>>98678940
>>98678943
I love that he has the "sickos" art motif.
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>>98678133
So why are they replacing Jace with some granny?
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Mind = blown
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>>98679000
Reminds me of some artifact from Ixalan 2.0 that would give some creature +1/+0 and haste every time an artifact entered, but it would transform into some worthless crap once you had 4 artifacts, killing all the potential.
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>>98679024
Tam is like 24 at most.
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>>98678145
Ajani's Pridemate still isn't pauper legal, but this thing will be
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>>98678278
>the retarded witch spammer is also the premodern hater
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Everyone hates premodern.
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>>98679079
Premodern is shockingly fun when everyone is playing homebrews, but the meta is dreadful
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>>98679079
You are not everyone, anon.
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>>98679079
not true ni**er
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>>98679079
thats why we play pre fire!
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>>98679159
pre fire modern is the future
keep an eye out for 2030+
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>>98678886
All the free lifegain in mono black is pie breaking. “Power at a cost” doesn’t exist anymore. It’s just power(for black).
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>>98679178
the powercreep has escalated to the point that black needs more than 20 life to make use of its defining gimmick
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>>98676897
STOP multi replying! Fucking fag
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>>98678627
Well yeah now she's a planeswalker. Planeswalkers don't get arcs, they just hang around and go "wow cool" at all the planes.
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>>98679087
Buddy, that's true of every format
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>>98676897
>he doesn't know why the green one is so different
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>>98679250
BTW what happened to Basri?
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>>98679278
fell in love with Davriel and planeswalked to acapulco to live out their days in peace
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>>98677533
>diamonds nigh unbreakable
What? Those writers are retards?
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>>98677527
So how did Mirrans came to be in echoverse? In original universe Karn created Memnarch and left phyrexian oil in Argentun where it infected Memnarch and made it mad to the point of bringing people from other planes to what would become Mirrodin...

It is amazing how the writers only have a basic idea of the lore of mtg.
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>>98679310
de beers influenced multiple generations anon, for once wotc isn't to blame here
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>>98679315
Golden Karn just made Mirrodin because Jace has no concept of Argentum.
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>>98679326
Also I guess because golden Karn isn't silver, naming his plane "Silver" would be inappropriate.
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>>98679334
Should've been Nidorrim
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>>98679343
or better yet Aurum, but clearly Jace and Karn weren't the bestest of buddies for the latter to recite his entire backstory
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>finish spark ranked
>lose 5 games in a row on turn 4-5 to 100+ landfall monsters
>put unsummon in my deck
>don't go against a single landfall gamer in 10 games
Does Magic the Gathering: Arena use rigged engagement matchmaking?
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>>98679541
use the banned-for-being-racist cards like crusade and cleanse
>also go to /edhg/ the anons itt hate it when people talk about edh here
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>>98677527
>On Zhalfir
So he will be getting a card in the Zhalfir set?
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>>98679625
No guarantees.
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Best creatures to put into the Cannon?
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>>98679795
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>>98676520
TQ
this asian angel milf mommy
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>>98679816
>looney leading people off a cliff
>cannon briefly gives him flying before destroying him
Holy flavor win Batman!
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>>98679865
He said mom you incestous freak.
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>>98676520
>TQ
OG Mommy.
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>>98679865
No even the hottest asian angel dude
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>>98678035
Legacy elves hasn't been a deck since bowmasters was printed
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>>98680050

cradle control is kinda a thing
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>>98678212
Ugly ass gook
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>>98677577
The most AIDS blueball ending to any arch/character in the entirety of scifi/fantasy.
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>WotC invests so much time making Jace the face of magic the last few decades because white men were the biggest demographic
>in 1 set they make him come out as a woman because the new demographic are redditors
Damn
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>>98680098
>still pushing this meme
You lost, UBrownoid.
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>>98676942
Who cares, you're going to buy it anyway.
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>>98678278
AGP-coded post.
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>>98679072
He's not me, an imposter.
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>>98680135
>green
no
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Are you ready?
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>>98678654
I hate magic niggercattle that just want infinity power level on every new card they deserve a real holocaust.
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Is this set, dare I say, pure unadulterated garbage?
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>>98676942
What is a yank tranny
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>>98680282
I’m guessing either Yank(American) or yank as in yankin the crank
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>>98680210
Commander players wondering why every card isn't at the power level of cards printed in Urza block.
>Ugh, Whir of Invention JUST searches the card and puts it into play at instant speed with Improvise? Why doesn't it also manacheat like Tinker? This X component makes it unplayable.
These retards have 0 mana Swords to Plowshares and still want better.
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>>98680245
Why?
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>>98680245
Nah, very excited for the new enchantment support
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>>98678133
Tam is
CUTE
U
T
E
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Snapcaster in standard when
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Ban it
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>>98677824
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/the-legends-of-reality-fracture
This page
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>>98678145
>another pridemate but better
nice
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>>98678678
Yes they did.
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>>98679029
Where?
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soo... who is getting banned 1st?
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>>98679378
yes, you can put a card in your deck that has very niche counters that nobody plays, queue up best of 1 and play against somebody running a shit card (except against you LOL) in their maindeck that just hoses you
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>>98679072
I'm not the witch spammer. I don't hate premodern I hate the Brazilian spammer and his Crusade posting.
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>>98680571
>landfall getting bans
heh, haha
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>>98678378
>>98678383
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>>98680571
Ok, you got all the mana. Now what.
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Where is Loot?
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>>98680604
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>>98680601
You understand this is ANY Land, not just Basic lands?

What combo you want to get raped by?
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>>98680571
How to spot a Commander-only in the wild:
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>>98680600
>>98680610
>mutates your loot into -20/4
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>>98680600
>>98680610
You know the crazy part is that the main giveaway is no "good" Loot is right next to him. I legitimately almosg believed it.
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>>98680673
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>>98680704
This is Gaia's Cradle with Extra Steps.. and worst.
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>>98680711
And in how many formats is gaea's cradle legal? I can only name three.
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>>98680720
Still, we have better options for "Add mana equal to creatures you control" than this.
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>>98680610
Noooooo not our Loot!!!!
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>>98680772
Calling it now, these will be called something like Jacelands or Sparklands or Walklands
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For me? It's Braids, Cabal Minion
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>>98680600
>Instead of devouring chests, Anti-Loot scours reality to grant absurd bazongas to those unfortunate to meet him.
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>>98680805
They're the duals of the planeswalkers.
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>>98680805
they will never see play so will not need a name
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Guiding Hydra - XW
Creature - Hydra Horror
This creature enters the battlefield with X +1/+1 counters on it.
At the beginning of combat on your turn, you may remove a +1/+1 counter from this creature. If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on each other creature you control.
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>>98680610
>Drew like a fucked up and evil Loot
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>>98680610
>>98680600
NOW SHOW ME HOW IT FUCKING DIES
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Sorcery

Create 2 2/2 colorless wizard soldier creature tokens named Cadet. If this spell was cast from a graveyard, put a +1/+1 counter on those creatures for every 3 cards in your graveyard.

Flashback 6UB
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>>98678772
Angel of Blooming Blessings - 3W

Creature - Angel Cleric (Common)

Flying, vigilance

This creature enters prepared.
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>>98680826
Jace legit saw all the Echos and thought "Yep, this is what "NOT SUFFERING" looks like" and trying to make it the canon.
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Transplant Surgeon - 2W

Creature - Human Cleric

This creature enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it.

When this creature dies, put its counters on target creature you control.

2/2
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>>98680846
did other colors get one of these legendary artifact creatures or just blue?
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>>98680850
we got Karn
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>>98680838
What's the spell?

>>98680843
You know, Vigorbloom is a terrible name for a school but I find myself digging their aesthetic. I do wish this would just say "Modular 1."
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>>98680861
It's the same spell every Vigorbloom prepared common has, +1/+1 on a creature and gain 1 life.
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>>98680867
stunning and brave
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>>98680867
Sorry, prepared common and uncommon. Every school's got one shared spell among those. The rares have their own unique ones.
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>>98680867
All Prepared Common have the same Spell if they share the same "house"
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>>98680878
They're called colleges.
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>>98680610
Evil Loot is so evil ... he can treat those negative breast sizes as positive!
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>>98680941
Now it all makes sense. Jace's plan was to unleash a breast expansion gremlin on the multiverse
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>>98680941
Do we have any concave chest representation in magic?
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Guiding Hydra - XW

Creature - Hydra Horror (Rare)

This creature enters the battlefield with X +1/+1 counters on it.

At the beginning of combat on your turn, you may remove a +1/+1 counter from this creature. If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on each other creature you control.

1/0

It points the way forward for lost souls.
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>>98680970
>Releasing a balanced Hydra just for White
And the Jewry continues
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>>98680970
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>>98680976
if wotc werent anti-white it would have landfall add a +1/+1 counter, or that but with tokens entering
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>>98680820
...Is there a reason this set has so many horror creatures, or is it just a mediocre attempt at making it obvious that what Jace has created is wrong? The only sets in standard with more horrors than this set are Lost Caverns, Duskmourn and Final Fantasy.
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Just 1 more and the Cycle will be completed.

Maybe now that Alchemy is dead, the red one will be freed
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>>98681002
Blue is easy, it just draws as many cards as damage it is dealt
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>>98681002
I like how 3/4 of the key words dont match the color identity
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>>98681006
DESU, White should have been Vigilance,

so its 4/4
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>>98681002
>Phyrexian Harvester
They should make a paper version of this card now that Alchemy is dead, except it exiles searched cards from your library and lets you cast them until end of turn.
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>>98681003
That would make blue not the obviously best one so that doesn't sound like something WotC would do. It'll cost UUUUUUUUUU and take extra turns equal to the amount of damage dealt and JotC will claim it is balanced because 10 blue mana is a ridiculous casting cost. The designers will claim they never thought people would cheat it into play via reanimation.
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So hyped to see the commander cards tomorrow
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>>98681000
Probably seeding for future sets.
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>>98680861
Modular has to go onto an artifact creature
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>>98677553
>name and flavor text related to sowing land
>no abilities that ramp your mana
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>>98681002
Harvester isn't a real card, it doesn't count. And technically there are 2 of the WWWW ones with Anti-Venom.
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>>98677632
You ARE NOT getting GodWalker anymore
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>>98681002
One of those cards is not real, anon, sorry.
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>>98681124
Maybe it will. There been cards that have escaped Alchemy into Paper
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>>98681002
obliterater is arguably the strongest but i've had some solid games with Vindicator.
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Legacy WR Energy has a 55% overall winrate over the past 6 months according to MTGDecks and noone has even mentioned a ban might be on the cards, while Tamiyo and Barrowgoyf are ignored in favor of banning Candelabra and Undercity Informer. Defend this.
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>>98681181
Vindicator preventing the damage to itself is bullshit. At least Obliterator can be beaten by brute force.
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>>98681097
Anti-Venom is 5 W.
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>>98681197
Having a good proactive deck in Legacy that plays to the board and is running shit like Goblin Bombardment is an important check on shit like reanimator and doomsday. Banning Candelabra is fine because it's only options are being useless or being the backbone of a deck that's very hard to stop, same as something like Survival of the Fittest or Arcum's Astrolabe. Undercity Informer is because a belcher player stole Maro's girlfriend back in high school.
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>>98678145
At this point I don't even care about the powercreep over Pridemate, we had the rare bat not long ago. But having this in pauper before Ajani' Pridemate...
>>98678189
Both solid.
>>98678192
Blue one looks like it could potentially go infinite with something.
Red one cost 1 mana too much to see play.
(I will be honest here: I didn't remember this guy existed. The guy that had a troll horn in his skull)
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>>98681366
>go infinite with something
He says nontoken, you're not going to do any Intruder Alarm horseshit
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>>98681003
So just a better version of red's ability
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>>98681382
seek after turn 4 is more or less always better than draw, and red inherently have more tools to shock themselves with
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>>98680202
At least it is a turn 2 thing.
>>98680600
He gives breast implants? OUR HERO!
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>FRA has Emrakul as 001
>then 119 mono-color cards
>121 through 165 are multicolor
>the next ten maybe are colorless artifacts
>LANDS
>then past 176 is this dual identity gimmick
>I think there's over a hundred of these, ending with Vraska at #278
>except only 171 cards have been revealed so far, about 60%
>28 of the cards so far have had empower Jace printed on them
>If only 60% of these fag factories have been revealed, we can expect the whole set to have 45 empower Jace cards
>that's more than there are Room cards in Duskmourn, counting DSC
God I fucking hate Jace
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>>98681006
Black has had Trample since alpha
White has flying since alpha
Green has vigilance since legends
Red has menace for a long time too.
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>>98681258
The Candle ban was silly because they banned it instead of Planar Nexus when Nexus is clearly the problem. Candle has been fine since it was last unbanned decades ago and has only been on their radar due to Modo grinders spamming for fast wins and F6 value. Delver is supposed to be the anti-combo check but the deck has warped in such a way that it's more like a controlly midrange deck now than fast pressure + disruption
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>>98681002
Green not being phyrexian bugs me
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>>98681502
I think that's because the curve of every deck is so low now that there's scarcely any different between tempo and midrange as archetypes
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>>98681503
I'm with you, but it's from Jace's mirror dimension where the Phyrexians don't exist so they're using that discrepancy to reinforce the parallels. It's less egregious than one of them being trapped in alchemy hell.
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>>98677568
Another fine addition in my Shizo discard control.
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>>98680571
I don't know how standard is doing atm
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>No Phyrexia means no Planeswalker Urza, possibly even no Brother's War
>No Urza means no Karn, no Argentum, and definitely no Mirrodin
This is the real reason the Echoverse can't survive without stealing reality itself. For all that he's convinced himself he's omnipotent, Jace can't complete the echo-people's existence and root them in a complete causal chain.
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>>98681616
for what i got from the story of the alt Karn, it seem that Mishra is the surviving brother that became a Planeswalker
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so why is the concept of "mirror universe" tied to strixhaven
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>>98681633
Not unless there was still a sylex explosion that drove both the Mightstone and Weakstone into Mishra's head.
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>>98681635
Because of its nature as a fusion of two planes, Arcavios made for an invaluable case study for Jace.
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>>98681637
this is just speculation, but what about the Brother War still happened, but whit the swapped protagonists (Urza is the one that killed Tocasia and became the "Bad" guy, while Mishra was the "Good" guy)
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>>98677553
Fauci Vigorbloom
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>>98681664
What's wrong with her faaaace?
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>>98681677
She has inserted strings attached from her forehead to her chin since nose rings signify subservience.
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>>98681712
>nose rings = subservience
>face strings = dominance
Bravo
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