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Previous thread: >>98680236

>Thread question:
What cyoa has the best race picking section?
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>>98687349
Not posting cyoas in full is dumb
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>>98687356
Because the typical quality of another post that could be in its stead is near-guaranteed to be lower
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>>98687365
I don't want to be too absolutist about this of course
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>>98687369
For example posting a cyoa in full is bad:
* if it's a cyoa that was already posted in full very recently
* if it's in the middle of more relevant ongoing things, disrupting from them - that's spamming in a literal sense
* if it's an extremely low quality cyoa - high school anime is what i mean here of course
* if there's already very many images in the thread so it pushes the thread too fast towards the image limit
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>>98687380
But all of those are still exceptions. The default should be to post it in full as this is the cyoa general
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>>98687387
While it is not a very frequent mode of replying, 4chan site software conveniently allows a poster to reply to a page within a cyoa, to say something about that page in particular. Reddit and most other sites do not provide that possibility, for example. So that's one niche advantage of posting a cyoa in full
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>>98687356
Not everyone has the time and mental strength to post big ones, it's understandable. It is when they linkpost 4pagers or lower I can't contain my disgust.
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>>98687396
But the real reason to post a new cyoa in full is that this is the cyoa general.
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>>98687400
Sure I agree with that. I rather meant, there's anons who actively oppose other anons posting cyoas in full, which is nuts.
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>>98687352
A but early, isn't it?
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>>98687429
I'm used to doing it at page 7, not too early imo? I want to do it before someone makes a new thread without the oc in op because I like the convention of putting recent ocs in op.
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>>98687431
I usually see it later, but fair enough on the reasoning.
The AI writing isn't my cup of tea, but having it as OP makes sense.
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>>98687349
Absolutely disgusting
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>>98687431
>without the oc in op

Do you at least suspect that our threadmakers might not automatically save all the OCs if they just happen to not like them?
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>>98687356
I was making a build for this, but I got bored
I guess Acedia is a good sin for me
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>>98687349
Disgusting posting the entire thing keep the slop limited to a link
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>>98687671
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It's crazy how the same anon can be mostly fine with SDA's butchering, but can't even touch Suri's cyoas.
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>>98687704
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Dragonfall question: how fucked am I if I take the enslaved option and take a companion that doesn't have any great plans? For example lets say Grix?
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>>98687704
Nobody was fine with SDA's desecration of his own beloved cyoas.
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>>98687723
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>>98687704
>It's crazy how the same anon can be mostly fine with SDA's butchering
Anon, literally NO ONE liked the battlemage remake.
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>>98687737
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>>98687704
Surinical cyoas can be pretty alright at times, but the shitty AI update of Battlemage was sacrilege, and I wince everytime it gets posted instead of the old version.
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>>98687349
>Prelest
>but also pick Heaven's Candidate and End of your Sin
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>>98687787
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I'm posting his largest cyoa because of this post >>98687622
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I do wonder if the AI art in my CYOA will be quite so derided
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>>98687801
maybe you hate that guy, but why do you hate everyone else here so much
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cyoa for this feel?
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>>98687904
Isekai light lord
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>>98687901
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>>98687905
That's not an isekai, it's a reverse isekai, beings from other worlds are coming to earth.
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>>98687869
If it's done well, no one will particularly care. Problem is, most people using AI art are also too lazy to actually try and make good images. It's more of a lack of effort issue, you can take >>98687671 as a great example. Or really, a lot of these CYOA's that have been posted currently. Consistency is key, having a bunch of slop thrown up all over your pages will make your shit look ugly and make people wonder why you couldn't just go the extra step instead, or leave out images entirely if you couldn't be bothered.
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cyoas where you can take control over a small tribe or company, and lead them to victory after victory until you eventually establish an empire in your own right with a harem of women, sycophants fawning over your every word and millions of men who would gladly die by your command?
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>>98687801
I had completely forgotten about The Great ACK
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>>98687953
Conduit
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>>98687937
consistency is actually the problem, slop looks so extremely consistent that it becomes awful
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>>98687953
spirit conscript with a new sect
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>>98688045
I mean sure if you consider being awful consistent, but I'm talking about actual details being lost in generation when trying to recreate characters/places and also just knowing what type of style you want. I see a lot of times its used to generate pastel painting type shit and then they swap to anime, and then maybe some western fantasy style, and it's so many clashing design choices that its clear the creator didn't take a few minutes to sit down and actually decide what they wanted.
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/cyoag/
>relentless authorfaggotry
>no builds posted, ever
>every new cyoa is hated on and shat on
>except if the cyoa caters to instant winners and cyababies that want immortality
/mcyoag/
>lots of builds posted for new cyoas
>lots of builds posted for old cyoas making comebacks
>intense build comparison and discussion
>constructive feedback to the authors is constantly shared
>in-depth writefaggotry that goes beyond stat dumping your builds
>relationship charts between builds
>not one singular post about the author themselves outside of giving them feedback

You know, the more I think about it, the more obvious it becomes. Everything that /cyoag/ hates is peak. In fact, the more that /cyoag/ hates it, the more peak it is. In other words, this place fucking sucks and has nothing to do with cyoa anymore and I feel sad that I didn't vacate my ass years ago to /mcyoag/.
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>>98688175
Ok, move to the better thread then
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Shoving my ovipositor down anon’s throat and laying my eggs in his stomach
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>>98688175
I've posted several builds but only like one or two anons talk to me about them.
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Insects are cool but arachnids are cooler
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>>98688200
same thing
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>>98688175
begone /mcyoag/ shill
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>>98688175
3 problems:

>1.
ERP.
There's less now than in the early days, last I checked, but still.

>2.
"Writefagging".
Your primary mode of engagement is supposed to be writing pastebins of what your character does. Not La Erudita style kino, they don't do that, it's just writing about your character. I don't hate that they like it but I have zero interest in reading those myself (and consequently zero interest writing them). They're generally not written with an external audience in mind, and it shows. The one exception is "what my character thinks of each other character" charts, which is a bit like La Erudita but sadly without the narrative element, still a fun format to read.

>3.
Conflict.
Many CYOAs revolve around conflict between builds, eg Fate. How to resolve that? Does one build's player just say "ah okay, I decided that my character loses :)"? Obviously not. I actually asked mcyoag this and their answer was: as long as you produce pastebin writings your character is alive, and the only means of "losing" a fight is that you get bored of writing the pastebins after which your character may as well be dead. As long as both characters are alive, nothing decisive in any way can happen between them (since the call on who gets to win would be completely arbitrary and nobody wants to lose arbitrarily).
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>>98687801
this sucks, dawg.
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>>98687349
I might actually post my build for a Surinical CYOA. Though I finished only like 50% of it and have no more time today.

Sin: Cowardice (As an immortalityfag, that's my ultimate destiny)

Undivine Providence (Devils rolled 1d5000000000, ignoring obvious soulless nations such as Indians and Chinese, and picked me)
Unclaimed Country (I build a castle in the swamp! It sank in the swamp.)
Impossible Anatomy (Looking like a skeleton, DR 5/bludgeoning)
Carnival of Bone (Bone is the safest form; people can't stab you in the dick if you'r all bone)
Guild Commonwealth (Arbeit macht frei)
Mindless Cogs (I'm going to cultivate a North Korea kind of power structure in my hell to make everyone slowly give up more and more of themselves in pursuit of safety, ultimately becoming mindless skeletons)

[Laws]
Sanctuary is Sacred - you'll be safe here, pinky promise
Guests Leave Unharmed - same
No Soul is Coin - slavery is cringe, we have more progressive methods to make you into cattle now


[Influence]
I feel like most people are already cowards at heart so might as well chill and not make too many waves... It's the safest route after all.

1 Bedside Whisper - "hey dawg, you should totally not speak to that girl you like, she'll say no anyway"
1 Useful Stranger
2 Clerk of Fortune
3 Demonic Legation
3 Patronage Fund
3 Civic Machine - cowardice is already so ingrained in most bureaucratic institutions that I don't honestly need to do much

[Works]
0 Seat: Fortress - to keep me safe from death
1 Guest Wing - you'll be safe here, dude
1 Unfailing Library
1 Archive of Small Truths
2 Office of Arrivals
3 Hospital of Continuance
3 House of Names
4 Engine of Embodiment
4 Palace that Follows - now my castle can run away with me

[Court]
2 Pallid Knights
2 Unburied Artisans
2 Iron Legion
3 Night Fleet
Secret police and standing army is a must for Best Korea (and I don't want to fight Satan head on)

Crownfire/Staff

Didn't have time to spend my crowns yet
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>>98688175
>only 121 posts in 5 days
So this is the power of /mcyoag/...
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>>98688273
quality trumps quantity, something /cyoag/ fags wouldn't understand
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>>98688273
It used to be mcyoag was the faster general. Although it was more that cyoag was particularly barren then.
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>>98688297
Only one general can be alive at a time
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>>98687718
It depends if you are into that or not. Tok himself might have a build enslaved to Ilithyia somewhere on his PC.
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>>98688175
>Everything that /cyoag/ hates is peak
Surinislut, is that you?
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Rolled 1, 2, 5, 11, 3, 11 = 33 (6d12)

>>98687349
Hrmmm....
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>>98688531
>double Hollow Bell
Ouch
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Where is GIL
AIEEEEEE- *dies*
*resurrects*
Anyway… how is that new surinical oc kino?
AMAZING NO??
What do you MEAN it’s not amazing?
Are you furphobic or something???
Commit sudoku
This is your first and only warning
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Furries?
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>>98687349
Holy slop, the description of everything is so vague and unimaginative, how the fuck am I supposed to even keep interest, let alone play this?
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>>98688682
What about them?
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>>98688747
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>>98688757
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>>98688761
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>>98688764
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>>98688771
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>>98688497
>Surinislut
>EAsskisser
>Toksucker
>Softsniffer
The 4 Horsemen of /cyoaGlazers/
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>>98688175
I tried giving mcyoag a chance during the first Spirit Conscript popular phase and I found it unbearable. Its 10% what you said, 30% mha spam, 30% arguing and rulefagging, and 30% cringe/boring roleplay.
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glup shitto cyoa?
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>>98688858
One of these is not even an author but a player.
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>>98688876
Lets try again anon.

"I raise my eyebrow in a curious way -So, you said you wanted my little spirit worm?- I asked perplexed"

"-Yes, I do- You said without any doubt in your beautiful femenine voice, like the voice of a maiden -I want to be your spirit conscripthole. Please, fill me of your aura with your legendary technique...- You said with all the passion in your heart"

"I raise my third leg as a yes and I destroyed your trigram of holes"

Do you prefer this?
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Why won’t the Harry Potter cyoa let me beat Dumbledore
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>>98688953
Because you have a terminal skill issue
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>>98688858
EAsseaters, your reply?
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Why won't the mushoku cyoa let me fuck orsted
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>>98688988
Because you're a charm 0 succubus
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>>98688983
what does that mean? and btw what does softsniffer mean?

its a very weird comment, I only understand two of them. Am i not cultured enough?
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Plebbit OC from a few days ago. It's based around a creating a Sci-fi TV series, which I thought was neat.

Be the Robot Sidekick: https://imgchest.com/p/9p4n9wv257n
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>>98688931
And yet he still gets felated more than any author in history. Curious.
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>>98687349

>(1) sin
6: despair
[+ Belph, -Asmod]

>(2) invitation
3: the safe choice
[+2 works]

>(3) inheritance
6: inverted palace

>(4) infernal identity
8: silhouette
3: procession

>(5) domain aesthetic
9: winter lanterns

>(6a) soul economy
1: civic tithe
>(6b) approach
6: ascension
>(6c) laws
1: your name is your own
2: sanctuary is sacred

>(7) influencing earth
[12 p]
21: public avatar, -4 p, +1 attention
19: chorus in the wires, -4p, +1 attention
17: pilgrimage network, -3p
3: talisman circuit, -1p

>(8a) seat
[18 p (+2 from earlier)]
1: palace
>(8b) palace upgrades
31: border orchard -4 p
20: observatory of consequences -3 p
12: dream conservatory, -2 p
14: impossible workshop -2 p
10: court of exact wording -2 p
33: foundry of edicts -4 p
2: unfailing library -1 p
9: small door -1 p
3: baths of unburdening -1 p

>(9a) retainers and forces
[9 p (+13 from general points)]
(i pick all except candle choir)
>(9b) subjugated goddesses
(skipped)
>(9c) bond
(skipped)

>(10a) infernal politics
3: chartered neutrality
>(10b) six princes
belphegor (sloth) - (courts, because i'm despair)
asmodeus (lust) - (opposes, because i'm despair)
5: satan (wrath) - arrangement??
1: mammon (greed) - rival
>(10c) rivalry
2: border
>(10d) starting attitudes
1: leviathan (envy) - warm
3: beelzebub (gluttony) - transactional

>(11) optional burdens
(skipped)

>(12) ambition
5: crown beyond the crown

>(13) opening incidents
[2 attention]
5: hunger below
5: hunger below (repeat)

>(14) your tool of office
2: sovereignfire
2: bow

>(15) lieutenants
[4 points]
6: nacreth
7: sivren
2: iscauro
13: serevain

>(16) optional missions
(skipped)

-------------

I am Uhuwugghu of Despair.
I'm a group of hiveminded black slinky shadow people. My weapon is the bow.

I rolled everything randomly, except I only found out at the end there was a general pool of points I had left unused. I poured them all to Retainers.
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>>98688953
Why do you want to beat him What did he do to you? He's a just a chill and gay old man.
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>>98689013
He sucks himself off, no mystery there.
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Why won’t the danmachi cyoa let me molest bell
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>>98688996
You're just jealous of THE League.
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>>98689031
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>>98689014
Weird build
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>>98689017
Assuming the balance in this wasn't shit, what kind of powerset would you lean towards?
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>>98688988
He’s part dragon. His balls only start gurgling one every thousand years. He is perpetually living a life of eternal suck.
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>>98687869
Not a chance, surinical makes blatantly obvious ai slop, what I can see from you is soulfully curated art. What people mean when they say "slop" is art that was prompted with no thought. soul is the psychic imprint of someone's hard work and it it visible in the final product.

I really look forward to it.
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>>98689168
Speak for yourself. I will shit on aislop in all forms no matter the source.
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>>98689032
>League of Troonk
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I’d enjoy Surinical a lot more if they actually tried to balance their abilities. Some of them go from 1 to 10 and I’m like ā€œwhat?ā€.
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Somebody remembers the cyoa where you are a hero, defeat the demon lord or something like that, you become the new one. A maid succubus greets you and show you the ropes, with former companions becoming corrupted monsters?

I can't seem to find it
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>>98689190
Yes, it's a (very mildly) nsfw CYOA, it's not postable here. Go to cyoar.
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>>98689190
Apodaimosis.
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>>98689175
Better start shitting on your PC bro
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>>98689211
Thanks my guy
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>>98689225
np
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>>98689216
>shit on the floor
>shit in the sink
>shit on your pc
We invented toilets a while ago bruh
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>>98687349
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Rolled 10, 3, 1, 10, 4, 1, 1, 9 = 39 (8d12)

>>98689336
feck
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>>98687869
It's a little bit of both the responses you got. Surinical is just SO sloppy with the AI but even "good" images will get some push back. I have to say I think Surinical using the AI for writing is a bigger problem IMO. He got a few nibbles on the great stage despite the terrible art, but no one understood how the abilities actually worked because the AI descriptions were so bad and you could tell he prompted the AI to give long descriptions about nothing.
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>Anyone remember that one cyoa
>The cyoa that did that one thing
>Yeah that one cyoa you know
Stop doing this
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>>98687349
>Sin
Escapism
>Invitation
Measured Greatness
>Inheritance
Unclaimed Country
>Infernal Identity
Almost Human
Crowned Absence
>Domain Aesthetic
Velvet Night
Black Ocean Of Stars
>Soul Economy
Indulgence Market
>Approach
Endless Pleasure
>Laws
Your Name Is Your Own
Sanctuary Is Sacred
No Soul Is Coin
The Right To Appeal
Guests Leave Unharmed
A Path To Freedom
>Influence
Public Avatar
New Necessity
Fork In History
>Seat
Impossible House
>Works
Baths Of Unburdening
Whisper Orchestra
Impossible Workshop
Hospital Of Continuance
Observatory Of Consequences
House Of Names
Sea Of Unlived Days
>Subjugated Goddesses
Hem 3 (Chosen Name)
Rue 3 (Chosen Name)
Cinder 3 (Chosen Name)
>Arrangements
Asmodeus (Reciprocal Partnership)
Belphegor (Reciprocal Partnership)
>Rivals
Mammon (Prestige)
Satan (Restored Goddess (Hem))
>Others
Beelzebub (Warm)
Leviathan (Warm)
>Optional Burdens
Unsettled Precinct
Redacted Week
>Ambition
A Hell Worth Choosing
>Incidents
Virtue Beast x3
Invisible Fires
Plague of Curses
The White Sun
The Drowned Sea x2
>Tool Of Office
Crownfire
Lantern
>Pride's Fate
Assassination Of An Idea
>Lieutenants
Nacreth
Sivren
Zharess
Eshikabel

And we're done, man that took a while. The idea is to create the nicest hell ever, full of dazzling entertainment and technological wonders.
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>>98689457
Also my realm:
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>>98689466
Ai slop
Kys
KYS
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>>98689472
Alas, I have been cursed with life unending.
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>>98689017
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>>98687349
I want to touch Pride.
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>>98687349
Anyone who chooses anything but Subjugation is gay.

You are replacing PRIDE, be prideful. Vainglory is also accepted.

but yeah, thats idea wise, as another anon said. This one is hard to read because AI doesn't speak like a person.
Some like Cruelty are understandable, others are hard to read, not because its not english but because it sounds like AI or are vague af. Like Velligo is the wolf villainess of a book that burnt or something? Maybe not? who knows
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>>98689549
She is dead, anon. Don't touch corpses.
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>>98687349
Fanaticism is my favorite Sin.
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>>98689596
Only if you want her to be.
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>>98687869
Echoing other anons here, if you’re using it to fill gaps you can probably get away with it. I find AI art to be in generally bad form, but I’d be less bothered by a creator using AI to give tonally consistent art to a strange option than I am by creators using waifuslop art or irl screenshots with no sense for cohesion.
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>>98687953
Anon, conquest is evil
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>>98687787
>>98687794
Utter gutterslop
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>>98689658
Depends on the case.
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>>98689658
Wrong, it's exalted
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>>98689678
It has eleven separate pussies THO.
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>>98689686
>separate
They may as well all be one and the same.
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>>98689692
Absurd, they all have different hair styles; eye colours, and sexual fetishist. That is more than enough differentiation for anon.
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>>98689597
This is what trench crusade could be if it wasn't made by tranny fake indie devs.
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>>98689702
But I am not any anon, I am an anon with a headache. And to me, it's all the same homogenous AI-generated mass. Some kind of brownish tumor with car ears tacked on, and with Brandon Sanderson's signature drawn in permanent marker.
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>>98689680
Genuinely name a single time a conqueror has caused mass death and suffering for a good reason
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>>98689729
https://imgchest.com/p/ne7bwokpg75
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>>98689743
When I do it it's ok, when YOU do it it's bad
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>>98689713
Its what crusadecucks deserve.
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>>98689729
Spain conquering a part of America. The result was a territory where the majority of its people ended up mixing with the colonizers, getting a higher level of technology and ending barbaric traditions and the fighting of the separated territories.

Without spain those conquered territories could have continued warring with each other, causing more death. And then the british empire would come and kill them all like they did in the north.

So now looking back, Spain did a great favor back then in several ways.
"War always bad! Conquering always bad!" is a childish black and white mindset. Almost nothing in life is always black or white. War tends to be bad, but sometimes its for a greater good.
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>>98689729
Jan Zizka led the Hussites to conquer his home country so that they could freely practice religious rites in their own tongue. This was done without the mandate of the nobility or even the initial agreement of most of his countrymen, and was condemned by Jeanne D'Arc. He's one of the very few generals who never lost a battle in his entire life, either.

>>98689750
Dropping trvklear warheads on the thread.
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>>98689729
War can be fought for a good reason, but there is no such thing as a good reason to conquer
>>98689777
Setting aside the questionable nature of your argument, this doesn't qualify as a "good reason"; you yourself said that you see the benefit looking back. They weren't thinking that they would partially assimilate the natives and therefore avoid their slaughter by the British
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>>98689881
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>>98689881
>this doesn't qualify as a "good reason"
It doesn't matter if they did it because King Kinggasius XVII wanted to. It was good. If it didn't happen more suffering would have been caused. Thats a fact. A war was positive for the conquered in this case.
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>>98689881
Thistlewaite seems to have a perfect batting average. Or maybe we just have very similar tastes.
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>>98689903
nta but they were specifically talking about the reason behind the conquest.
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>>98689936
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>>98689936
Best waifu? and i don't mean just fuck her, but to actually make her a wife (I am looking at you, sister) for politics and love
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>>98689939
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>>98689729
Stalin defeating nazi germany
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>>98689944
Fox beast, clearly. Cracked subterfuge.
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>>98689952
You absolute baffoon
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>>98689944
Sybil, the thought makes me gag but fay blood will strengthen my line.
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>>98689953
>Has to pay the full economywrecking price everytime you want to fuck your wife
>She doesn't help because its a contract
All of this if she even would marry you.
>>98689944
That barbarian girl with white hair. She is canonically hot and loyal
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>>98689960
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>>98689964
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>>98689960
>horse fucker to get horse babies
hmmm, tok behaviour
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>>98689903
Too bad someone couldn't have prevented the suffering you are causing me
>>98689906
They're pretty great, even though they all pretty much have the same central idea. I don't blame him though, it's the nature of our time
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>>98689999
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>>98689999
>Too bad someone couldn't have prevented the suffering you are causing me
Cute tsundere~
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>>98689881
>but there is no such thing as a good reason to conquer
Every day we drift further from Crom
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New Thread time
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>>98690032
You fucking nugget, we are 59 images from the limit.
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>>98690031
If he were alive today and tried that shit he'd get executed via cruise missile from a guy who plays overwatch
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>>98689777
Spanish weren't doing it for a good reason; don't twist the question to suit your own ends. I am specifically asking for a conquest that was done with pure and good reasoning by the people who started it.
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>>98690176
Some anons are... special
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Seriously though. How do I beat Dumbledore?
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>>98690349
If Conan the Barbarian were alive today he would be a carrier of 284 different STDs from all of the sex he'd be having on hookup apps.
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>>98689960
>>98689984
*Sigh* adding it to the list of similarities...
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>>98687801
I have read through the whole thing and i think i drowned in text. I am interested and i might make a buiid but right now i think my mind is spent
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>>98689964
Do you think the Cogwork Colossi would be eligible to fight the tigers?
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...new thread time?
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>>98690979
Go make your own thread anon!
You can name it: "anon's little thread! all friendly guests are welcome ^_^"
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>>98690979
>206 replies

Are you crazy? Is this a bait or something?
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>>98690993
?
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>>98690999
Tourists don't know about bump limits.
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>>98690959
If you were a tiger spirit that prized martial valour and insisted that summoners duel you to prove their worth, would you be offended if they challenged you with a soulless clockwork robot?
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>>98691013
But it's new thread time?
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>>98691015
no it is not
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>>98691014
Thank for the answer, guess will keep using Nakai and the slayer saints to fight them.
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>reddit balls cyoa
yawn
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>>98691131
Waifumancer and divine ascension are too powerful.
Probably angelic bride too.
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>>98689037
Yes, it was rolled.
Update:
>>98687349
>>98689014

>(1) sin
6: despair

>(2) invitation
4: pride's chosen
[+2 court]

>(3) inheritance
6: inverted palace

>(4) infernal identity
8: silhouette
3: procession

>(5) domain aesthetic
8: white expanse

>(6a) soul economy
8: crucible
>(6b) approach
4: endless torment
>(6c) laws
4: no soul is coin
7: rank must be earned

>(7) influencing earth
[12 p (+1 from reserve)]
1-4: correspondent -1 p
3-1: academy -3 p
3-3: civic machine -3 p
6-4: new necessity -6 p, +2 attention

>(8a) seat
[18 p]
1: palace
>(8b) palace upgrades
1-1: receiving room -1 p
1-2: unfailing library -1 p
1-5: guest wing -1 p
1-8: archive of small truths -1 p
2-8: muster cloister -2 p
2-9: office of arrivals -2 p
3-2: observatory of consequences -3 p
3-7: bureau of correspondences -3 p
4-4: border orchard -4 p

>(9a) retainers and forces
[9 p (+12 from reserve)]
1: inkling chancery -1 p
5: advocate without a mouth -2 p
6: mirror agents -2 p
7: pallid knights -2 p
9: iron legion -2 p
9: iron legion -2 p
9: iron legion -2 p
9: iron legion -2 p
10: rogue beasts -3 p
11: night fleet -3 p
>(9b) subjugated goddesses
(none)
>(9c) bond
(none)

>(10) infernal politics
mammon (greed) - (curious)
asmodeus (lust) - (opposes despair, rival. rivalry: border)
leviathan (envy) - (curious)
beelzebub (gluttony) - (curious)
satan (wrath) - (reciprocal partnership)
belphegor (sloth) - (courts despair)

>(11) optional burdens
(none)

>(12) ambition
5: crown beyond the crown

>(13) opening incidents
[2 attention]
5: hunger below
5: hunger below (repeat)

>(14) your tool of office
2: sovereignfire
2: bow

>(15) lieutenants
[4 points]
1: drousette
2: iscauro
8: auvrille
12: khezri

>(16) optional missions
(skipped for brevity)
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>>98691177 (me)
I tried the same approach before (make a rolled build to familiarize myself with the cyoa first, then later return to fiddle with it manually) with the interplanar empire CYOA. I think I'll try it in the future too, with other cyoas that I'm not motivated to read cover-to-cover right away.
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>>98689936
>Shogun Showdown
>Method of Rulership
Administrator
Architect of Legacy
>Seat of Power
Land of Earth
>Beast Clans
The Tiger
>Advisors
Kugitsu Ayatsuri
Nakai Silk Spinner
Lady Lian
Gobbla Weylandottir
>Force Composition
Those Few Strong And True
Ashigaru
Nobushi Outriders
Yumi Archers
Slayer Saint x2 (Bow) (Spear)
Death-Weave Stalkers
Engineers
Shinobi
Cogwork Colossi
War Vessels
>Rival Shogun
Enemy: Kyojo The Cruel
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>>98691452
kino
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>>98691470
>Those Few Strong And True
>Administrator
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>>98691452
kino
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>>98691503
That's why I have the tigers to boost my army.
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>>98689936
where's the non piece of shit artifacted and high image quality version
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>>98691643
Not planning to fight Lung, just the squad commanders, Lung is just the deterrent.
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>>98691698
I forgot and thought you needed to pay the lord summon price at least once, since they're all just there to act as deterrents it's fine
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>>98691707
Am not so crazy to try and fight Lung, if I had to I would have taken my second choice (the centipedes), as while disgusting the great devourer wouldn't kill me or one of my greatest alliies.
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>>98692191
having ambivalent not give the same amount of points as kill order if not more is some bullshit, when vigilante's are under twice as much pressure when going after both heroes and villains than a villain with a measly kill order
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>>98691452
Nice build
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>>98692524
nta but thanks
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>>98692527
nta but I don't think ambivalent should give the same amount of points. I don't know why you say this
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>>98692537
nta but it's time for a new thread
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Let the dragon fall, let it crumble
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>>98692544
nta but its impossible to defeat unless you weaken him first with Yoku.
Although Yoku is in theory not much below them. You could make Lung fight another Lord and Yoku (fresh) fight the weakened Lung, she should win

Its not a bad deal
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>>98692575
nta but I wish the whole human body could regenerate like the liver can.
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>>98692585
Then the whole human body should be named liver and not just body.

>>98692567
nta but I think Bloom not being a trap is sad, I wanted her to ram her monster trap cock inside me until I beg for forgiveness I didn't earn
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>>98692567
Least problematic drawback to unlock Megumin's pacts ?
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>>98692740
Arrogant. You're a dragon; it's not exactly the most misplaced emotion.
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>>98692740
Horny or ravenous, depending on the build.
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>>98691452
Soulful
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Dumbledore too strong…..
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Post Conquest
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>>98692567
My first build for Dragonfall, its been far too long. Thank you Tok for consistently being the best author we have ever had. I'm ashamed to have ever doubted you and never gave Dragonfall a chance until now.

Whoever says Tok's CYOAs are bad is deceiving themselves. There's such a variety of choices and the best part about Tok not writing in-depth descriptions for them is that it allows you to more easily let your imagination go wild with them on what they can and can't do, compared to lengthy, heavily limited powers that won't let you take a single step outside of what is 'allowed.' Dragonfall and Tok CYOAs in general feel so much more carefree in that they allow you to actually have fun and be powerful. THIS is how all CYOAs should be. And even having lewd options, they're absolutely neccessary.

I would have liked the worlds to be more fleshed out, I would interact with them more if I had a more detailed understanding of them. Powers and magic is one thing, but I'm not very imaginative when it comes to worlds.

And I'd like more pacts, not with Gods, but with mortals and mortal groups. For example, a mad scientist who wants you to mate with as many high-profile females as possible, female knights, princesses and queens and as a reward you get a loyal Scaleborn or child who can take Greater Dragon traits. Or a pact with an assassination guild to target heavily guarded marks and brush it off as a freak natural disaster dragon attack, in return they will handle procuring your dietary needs.

I'll be sure to take what I learned here to my own CYOAs. Looking forward to Hentai Heroine.
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>>98692988
>I'll be sure to take what I learned here to my own CYOAs.
What cyoas have you made?
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>>98693105
One about Magic the Gathering. Probably you didn't know, its a great cyoa but it was underrated.
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>>98692567
Post the dlc. It has good companions.
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>>98692988
I don't know if I would got that far but Dragonfall is legitimately very good and there is no other Dragon CYOA that even comes close.
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>>98693260
thanks anon I needed the laugh today
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>>98692567
Alright here is my image build (just copy and paste stuff but I had fun), along with one of my famous writeups (autistic ramblings).

https://rentry.co/v2oku9zd
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>>98693275
You are welcome anon.
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>>98693105
Everything in unnamed creator 09
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>>98692988
this has to be a psyop
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>>98693105
All of your favorites~
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>>98693105
All the ones you think are ass
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>>98693411
Is it really so hard to believe someone might geniunely appreciate Tok as a talented CYOA author?
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>>98693502
I appreciate him because he has the balls to fuck a horse infront it its owner. What a chad!
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>>98693105
All of them, all. Every pill picker, every shitty cyoa, even cyoas from trash. Yes I did Isekai Rape Monster. Yes I did Entropist. Yes I did Magic the Floppening.
What are you going to do now? Do you want to make me mad? And destroy all the flow of cyoas? Be my guest, you coward, you absolute tack sized piece of shit
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>>98693221
>dlc
?
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>>98692988
>Not actually a Dragon, just a living orbital attack satellite.
Not really my thing but you do you anon.
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>>98693502
You already know the answer to that.
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>>98693502
Tok has always had a following but his haters like to pretend he is completely without talent and support which was never true. In fact his most infamous moments come from his interactions with his fans.
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>>98692988
1. Animate construct doesnt make them alive or able to think for themselves. Even at higher levels it just means you can give more complex commands.
2. Constructing a doll of dragonite? okay. Fucking it...? You know you would be fucking dragonite right? Its like making a doll out of rock and trying to stick your dick inside, you will only hurt yourself.

3. Doll-phylactery-daughter-wife-slave is... wtf, poor doll, thankfully its not intelligent nor alive.
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>>98693531
There is a dragonfall dlc with finally some good companions.
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>>98693636
post it
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>>98693665
No, I asked for it. You wont turn it around on me.
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>>98693636
checked but are you going to post it or what?
>finally some good companions
The base companions are pretty good and if the new ones have dumb wishes it could fuck up the whole thing.
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>>98693624
>1. Animate construct doesnt make them alive or able to think for themselves. Even at higher levels it just means you can give more complex commands.
This is what I'm talking about when I say Tok doesn't make his chocies retardedly limited, since it says nothing about limiting intelligence then the player can assume whatever he wants because then it's more fun that way. Why bother nitpicking over stuff like that at the expense of your enjoyment?
>2.
Don't care. I'm fucking the doll.
>3.
She's Runic Bonded to me she she understands me and loves me on a soul deep level.
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So the Harry Potter cyoa says I can be strong but just not Voldemort or Dumbledore tier strong okay wow that’s kind of gay y’know?
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>>98693708
Just post the cyoa if you want people to talk about it
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>>98692988
I don't think glider wing's work the way you think they do. You are gimping yourself IMO.
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What can't you kill cuddly bear in choose only one? Why is he always stronger?
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>>98692988
Fullfilling Ignar's wish probably would just create a second egg's worth of dragonite, rather than requiring you to expend yours.
Anyway cool build, some parts of it reminded me of my own.
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>>98692988
Why would you do this to yourself?
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>>98693221
>>98693665
Can't post images while in unknown mode, but are you talking about this?
https://imgchest.com/p/wl7lm8zoyx2
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>>98693743
Nah
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>>98693700
>Don't care. I'm fucking the doll.
>The first Great Dragon to break their dick and phylactery at the same time
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>>98693700
>She's Runic Bonded to me she she understands me and loves me on a soul deep level.
Runic bond doesn't work like that. Assuming it can be targeted by that spell, the spell just make you able to communicate with telepathy.

And by the way, is runic bond level 1, 2 or 3? because if its 2 and 3 that means you can very well die at the same time as your doll. Its a very bad idea to runic bond your way into resurrection.
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>>98694003
He's a weak large, he isn't approaching the breaking of a dragonite doll.
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>>98693771
Maybe, I considered that gliding as high altitude might have some issues, if that's the case then I'll just mutate 1 pair of glider wings and one pair of thruster wings.

>>98693911
I assumed I couldn't wish for more dragonite, it felt like I would be cheating the system more than I already was.
Orbital superiority is a no-brainer, even Tok did it. I ended up copying his arcane-mana fusion breath inclusion once I realised I was fucked against mages.

>>98693979
Desperation to play a fun CYOA. I was beginning to forget what it felt like.

>>98694041
>Runic bond doesn't work like that.
Works on my system
>And by the way, is runic bond level 1, 2 or 3
Oops, forgot to cut off the Tier 2 and 3
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>>98694003
They don't have magical metal alloys or snug fit enchantments in Elderia?
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>>98694071
>I assumed I couldn't wish for more dragonite
You can fullfill Ignar's wish AND give Shokunin your egg, the dragonite you give Ignar is a bonus if you pay the ur-embers, if you go for Megumin you have to actually give yours.
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>>98694071
>Desperation to play a fun CYOA. I was beginning to forget what it felt like.
...As in, why would you sentence yourself to being in the sky forever?
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I realized scales+shell is a much cheaper way to create dragonite-tier stuff than my legendary tail, even if it wouldn't be able to help against hive minds.
This might completely change the build I posted yesterday.
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>>98693700
Tok is generous with possibility but not being a cheapskate. You need T4 animate construct to do what you want to do. Luckily for you there is a way to get it. Grant Aamonteps wish and he can have the spell. Honestly though I think there are easier ways to get a custom waifu.

>>98694071
The wishes are VERY powerful and Ignar was always the option to gain more Dragonite. It's important because it is a way to get more if you trade your egg to Sokunnin (which I might recommend for Mark of ownership since your constructs are currently vulnerable to being counter spelled or anti magic auraed).
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Make a cyoa about Dalas Review
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>>98694191
I think it would be peaceful. I also have a pocket world.
>>98694212
Who says I can't improve the spell on my own? Imagination doesn't stop at the choices.
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Danmachi > Hairy Pooter
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https://imgchest.com/p/6eyrnaz3g7p
Underrated cyoa
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>>98694212
>Aamontep has T4 spells
That's even stronger than I thought, and I already expected him being really strong.
Could you elaborate a bit more on which spells he has?
>Honestly though I think there are easier ways to get a custom waifu.
Commbined with the next suggestion to have a pact with Shokunin the easiest seems the immaculate bride, or sufficently twisting one of the wishes, like Grix's.
Another question, if you mutate a feature, detach it and unmutate it, does it vanish?
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>>98694271
>Who says I can't improve the spell on my own? Imagination doesn't stop at the choices.
You can learn T4 on your own if you have T4 magic but Tok has said it can take millennia to do so. Until then the spell can't actually create life. If you want to Sarte go ahead but currently your build doesn't work.
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>>98694364
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e6PHtPcUoqM?feature=share
I WILL have sex with the flesh doll
I WILL have sex with the rope doll
[YOU ARE HERE]
I WILL have sex with the metal doll
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>>98694391
>"Straight doll teeth"
Jesus... the phrases zoomers come up with...
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>>98694334
You need to read the wishes carefully anon. Aamontep is a wizard trapped in a Draggonite body very similar to the dolls anon wants to make but is unable to animate it. If you grant his wish to animate it you could do so by giving him T4 animate construct. He doesn't have any other T4 spells but implicitly giving him T4 animate construct gives you fiat to give him T4 magic to use it.
>>98694334
Tok has said that if you unmutate something any thing connected to it is lost (I.e enduring features or resserection egg)

Also for a custom waifu I think the easiest thing to do is grant Xixis wish (you can give him ANY body you want).
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>Dragonfail posting
????
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>>98694430
>implicitly giving him T4 animate construct gives you fiat to give him T4 magic to use it.
Makes sense to me
>unmutate something any thing connected to it is lost
On the other hand I heard Broodlord would stay effective as long as it was active when they were born.
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>>98694428
I get an immediate hard on when I hear the word "ropeussy"
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>>98694468
Let tok have his fun, his samefaging is entertaining.
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>>98694475
>On the other hand I heard Broodlord would stay effective as long as it was active when they were born.
Yea Tok has been inconsistent on the mutation pool but overall he is just trying to avoid exploits. Mutating enduring features to get a bunch of material and then unmutating sort of feels like an exploit but mutating a new breath attack to make a specific Dragonite type and then unmutating doesn't despite mechanically those two scenarios being very similar in a pure sense.
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>>98694468
Its just Tok sucking his own tiny cock again. Ignore him
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Let the dragon fuck dolls
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>Animate Construct can make a stone statue move as fluidly as a real creature
>Can't make a dragonite metal fleshlight
Yeah, that's bullshit
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>>98694557
The great dwarvern master smiths are rolling in the graves right now, the most prescious metal on the planet, used to make sex dolls. jesus...
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>>98694568
>Can't craft an anatomically correct doll out of dragonite
Severe skill issue besides there is probably plenty of dragonite on that egg still
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>>98694557
Makes sense. Dragonite is suppose to be an immutable anti-magic metal. It wouldn't do if some random wizard could just cast a spell and turn your Dragonite armor into a sex toy while your still inside.
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>>98694587
I mean... I wouldn't dispell it if that's what he wanted to do...
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>>98694587
Thats my fucking fetish you cunt. God give Tok grace for letting me finally fulfill my fetish
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>>98694587
Well a guy is gonna be able to animate their dragonite body so clearly it is possible.
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>>98694568
But the weeb smiths are saying hell yeah.
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>>98694590
>>98694598
>>>/cyoar/fags begone.
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>>98694590
>dispell exists
>dispells your phylactery doll
>becomes a lifeless doll
>I fuck your lifeless doll and break your phylactery
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>>98694640
Oh yeah? my cum was stored in that. Do you enjoy your dick being soaked in my dragon cum? disgusting.
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>>98694640
yea anon needs Mark of Ownership pretty badly.
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>>98694587
>Dragonite is suppose to be an immutable anti-magic metal.
No, quite the opposite. It's a very magical metal that can be gloriously enchanted. Whatever metal the Vorpol Blade is made of is closer to what you said.
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Dragon cum sells for so much fucking gold on the wizard black market. A dragon will usually only ejaculate once a century. The sheer amount of uses for dragon jizz are astounding. The debate over who should get the not!Nobel prize for this discovery is still a hot topic today.
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>>98694653
I do not enjoy it but I know it fucks your mind. Its the same reason why I would fuck your ass, a form of torture
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In a good mood. Post your cyoa requests and ill whip something up for a couple of them.
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>>98694713
Wizards are nasty and should all be killed
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>>98694602
Japanese breast fat folded a billion times
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>>98694718
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>>98694731
Multiplayer fantasy gladiator CYOA.
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>>98694755
s-soft...
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>>98694751
Completely superior to Western Boobs.
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G-GIVE ME SOFT, G-GIVE ME WARM …
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>>98694773
Dont expect anything super high effort, but ill see what I can do.
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>>98694789
I don't know about that. Your mom's tits are pretty exquisite.
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>>98694773
That's actually a pretty cool idea. I would have a respawn mechanic but that's just me.
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>>98694804
That's fine. Something is better than nothing. Make sure to make minotaurs, nagas, harpies as playable races.
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>>98694806
>doesn't know my mom is a Chink
lol lmao even
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>>98694818
No promises on those, but ill see what I can do.
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>>98694731
You're a mutant in a post-apocalyptic wasteland, and being hunted by some professional exterminators. How are you going to survive? Fight, Flee, Hide, or Parley?
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>>98694807
Respawn is too gamey for my liking. Just call it resurrection and make the Arena serve as a grand ritual circle that empowers the Sorcerer-Emperor via continuous bloodshed.
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>>98694602
For me it is the sleepy loli nemuidesu
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>>98694713
Can confirm this is unironically true.
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>>98694825
Is that why you love asian boobs? because your chinchong mom has a big pair that you constantly yearn to suckle on like you did as a child? kinky.
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>>98694859
Yea, name doesn't matter but permadeath makes death arena settings far less interesting for logistical reasons
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>>98693982
This actually has some pretty good ideas, it is pretty nice.
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>>98694860
nobody asked lolinigger
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>>98694889
By jove anon that's amazing. Thank you for curing me of my hicups
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>>98694870
Don't believe them, that shit is toxic.
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>>98694919
:(
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>>98694891
Infinite respawn also makes it far less interesting. A middle ground would be to have a single digit number of respawns available to the player before permadeath. Easily explained by soul loosening further after each death and rebirth.
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>>98694939
>>98694859
How about something like "fights arent usually to the death"/"only poor performers get killed off"

Like irl gladiator stuff, while theres obviously risk to it (esp vs animals and shit) you have the expectation that putting on a good show will see a fight ended before someone finishes you off (provided you tap out and whatnot), and that you will get patched up for another round.
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>>98694860
Is nemuidesu a loli?
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>>98694927
Poison and medicine are only differentiated by dosage. That's toxicology 101 anon.
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>>98694961
I like to believe she is
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>>98694959
Well "fantasy gladiator" implies you are going to be fighting monsters and wild beastmen as well as other gladiators which makes the non-lethal theatrics difficult to enforce. Also less interesting in my opinion.
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>>98694860
No portrait, no waifu. There is no known way of waking it up. And we dont know if its an adult or not.
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>>98694860
Do you have any reason to think it's a loli or are you just head cannoning (seriously though not knowing anything about the sword makes it a serious gamble especially when we can get the Vorpal Blade that is just the ultimate at everything).
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>>98694974
I am Tok. Nemuidesu is a fatty woman with a beard, it simulates the experience of getting too drunk and sleeping for a couple of days. It happened once to me and I woke up with a little of beard and a few kilos extra. It went quickly away with a shower and some training.
But yeah, don't expect her to be beautiful unless you are into it, then you can become one of the strongest beings just by mastering her.
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>>98694990
>There is no known way of waking it up
It wakes up for a greater Dragon. But that suggests it's first owner was the first greater Dragon from Ixatacok (since the other swords where made a 1000 years later after the fairy landed in Mizuchi (and became the Phoenix Empress). How did he get to Mizuchi and get it crafted, how did the spirit king come to possess it? Maybe he traded his egg to the Spirit King and he made the sword himself?
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>>98695002
head cannoning
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>>98692988
Are Breath Attacks affected by Size?
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>>98695041
>fairy landed in Mizuchi (and became the Phoenix Empress).
The phoenix empress is the greater fairy dragon? Wouldn't that make her be way stronger than her 2 rivals and your alliance a guaranteed win in the whole world?
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>>98695068
I would assume so, I didn't want to go any smaller than large since it would make the breath laser too thin. Really I would have prefered enormous or gargantuan if the points allowed it.
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>>98695070
It also makes her an enticing prospect for marriage. Imagine how many cute fairy-dragon babies you would make...
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>>98695070
Tok hasn't confirmed this but there are a lot of hints about this. Yea a team up would be huge which is why she has that Geisha make a wish, but then again from her perspective we might try and eat her for the old Gods or something. The unknown of what type of Dragon we will be is why everyone is groveling so hard.
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>>98695068
Yes that is confirmed on the second page under the Size blurb.
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>>98695068
Yeah
>Even breath attacks are affected by a dragon's size
>>98695120
Nta, I'm curious, which are the hints?
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>>98695120
>Yea a team up would be huge which is why she has that Geisha make a wish
Literally everyone wants to teamp up with the new greater dragon. That doesn't really hint or confirm anything.

> but there are a lot of hints about this.
for example?

>>98695111
Assuming she is, if she doesn't have a human form... I am not touching it.
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>>98693982
Does this have the /cyoag/ seal of approval, or would I be mocked for using it?
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>>98695070
>>98695111
Yea and it is something to consider if you consider the Spirit King's T3 pact to unite Mizuchi. You would either have to fight her or Marry her to fulfill this pact which kinda makes it a trap option if you didn't want to do that (same with Menoph T3 as it's likely the 1st greater Dragon is still one of the Rulers in Ixatacok).
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Who are all the Greater Dragons before us?
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>>98695157
The description of Mizuchi describes the 3 kingdoms and their rulers and says the Phoenix Empress is beautiful and immortal suggesting a scaleling. Combine this with Tok having confirmed that the fairy caused the sundering, took the Elves memories and landed in Mizuchi where she used her egg to have the Katanas made and it seems likely. Then there are little things like the Phoenix court making public wishes to try and outsmart the new greater Dragon. That's the sort of tradition the fairy might start.
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>>98695192
1st greater Dragon landed in Ixatacok and made a pact with the great old one dude and captured the Arkenstone (the large number of Dragons there are his descendants), second was the Fairy who caused the sundering, took the Elves memories and landed in Mizuchi, 3rd or 4th was a necromancer dragon that tried to help undead Goddess conquer Kaldagrim but was slayed by the Norse gods (you can get his skull), and 5th Greater Dragon was the Demon asshole. So one is unaccounted for (which is a good thing from a writing perspective).
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>>98695204
>Combine this with Tok having confirmed that the fairy caused the sundering, took the Elves memories
Where did he say this?
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>>98691131
You only really need Fetish Manifestation. Literally anything can be a fetish, and something as ridiculous as timestop is given as an example of what it can do. Maybe also take some mental abilities to psych yourself into considering outlandish things fetishes, like,
>Singular Skill: Gaslighting
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>>98692461
Kill Order villains are generally slaughterhouse-nine tier of pantshittery, no one in their right mind would ever give killing you a second thought, excepting only the most estraneous circumstances. At least, with Ambivalence, you have that 'or alive' factor.
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>>98694731
Wizard hat.
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>>98695204
> is beautiful and immortal suggesting a scaleling
Beautiful is a normal occurence. There are a lot of companions that are simply beautiful. And in this kind of setting if a woman is powerful, she tends to be beautiful.
Immortality is as easy as a tier 1 spell.

You can explain it as a scaleling or simply a beautiful sorceress.

> Combine this with Tok having confirmed that the fairy caused the sundering, took the Elves memories and landed in Mizuchi where she used her egg to have the Katanas made and it seems likely.
The only part here that could link both is Mizuchi. Elves memories doesnt really link to anything, like the sundering or the katanas. You would have a point of the katanas were confirmed in her possession.

>Then there are little things like the Phoenix court making public wishes to try and outsmart the new greater Dragon
Thats not what they are doing. Making a wish is obligatory, its not something they are doing to somehow trick the dragon. And what they do with said wish is try to not get it fulfilled.
This, by the way, goes against the theory. If the phoenix empress was a greater dragon trying to game the system, she would make them make wishes you could fulfill and that would benefit her. But the traidition is not get wishes granted.
With the exception of Meili.

By the way, making wishes trying to get something is something obvious I think, you dont need to be a greater dragon yourself.

And one of my points against the theory, why would she be called Phoenix empress then?

Knowing tok and his obsession with Avatar and Azula, just like Ozai started calling himself phoenix king, he made an Azula expy with that theme. An immortal fire sorceress. Not a greater dragon.
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>>98695316
For fucks sake read Yanmais description. The Phoenix court intentionally make wishes during Dragonfalls to demonstrate their cleverness. The point isn't to actually get the wishes granted but to demonstrate they understand how tricky it is. I.E the fairy wants them to make wishes with the right FEY wording so that the Dragon won't grant it. Immortality is extremely uncommon. It may be a T1 spell in our section but in practice real wizards very rarely achieve it (otherwise Bonius, Aamontep and several others don't make sense). I admit the evidence is circumstantial and Tok has never confirmed it (not should he), but I would bet on it.
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>>98695316
>You would have a point of the katanas were confirmed in her possession.
Dragonite only comes from greater Dragon eggs and the 13 Katanas were made after the second Dragonfall (the Fairy). We can't draw it directly too her but there was definitely an infusion of Dragonite into Mizuchi.
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>>98694896
Yeah, some of it is fun.
it was made before the update, so it wasn't intended, but I think it would be fun to create indestructible tooth soldiers, especially making them also based on a fusion of all elements.
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>>98692988
How much did tok pay you for this endorsment?
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>>98695402
So all of this is trying to say it was fey worded? My guy, a fey would try to trick the dragon into doing a bad wish for them and a good one for the fey. This is "my wish is for your anus to explode mr dragon" tier of not wanting it granted, and again. This doesnt come from the Phoenix empress, the empress is tyring to form an alliance specifically using the wish system in a way so unfey like.
>For fucks sake read Yanmais description
I did, and I understood it. Your try at explaining is something I knew except you were all in in just "fey".

> It may be a T1 spell in our section but in practice real wizards very rarely achieve it
I am not saying every peasant has it. I am saying its a tier 1 spell, so the possibility of it being why she is immortal is very much open. Your way of thinking is "immortality and beautiful? it must be a fey dragon using magic to transform into scaleling" when it can simply be explained as a beautiful sorceress got a tier 1 spell.

> (otherwise Bonius, Aamontep and several others don't make sense)
They went other ways of magic or didn't know how its done but its not beyond their ability if they had a teacher.
Spells take decades to learn, and thats knowing how to learn them. Starting from 0 should be harder.

>I admit the evidence is circumstantial and Tok has never confirmed it (not should he), but I would bet on it.
I only wanted you to admit its cirumstantial at best. In the beginning you didn't say "in my opinion" or "I bet" you acted like it was confirmed
> after the fairy landed in Mizuchi (and became the Phoenix Empress).
And if I had to bet, its an Azula expy tok masturbates to in his lonely nights.
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>>98695425
>Dragonite only comes from greater Dragon eggs and the 13 Katanas were made after the second Dragonfall (the Fairy).
The katanas coming from the fairy dragon egg its a strong theory, yes. It makes sense and the other ways for it to be done need the prior dragon to give his 1000 year old egg. So its pretty much confirmed.

Now, the dragonite coming from that specific dragon egg, and said dragonite transforming into the katanas how does it link to the phoenix empress in any way except country?
In no way, which is my whole point. If it was confirmed in some way that the majority of katanas were in Phoenix empress's possession, it would have a point. But literally nothing links the empress to any katana any more than it does to the dragon king or the tiger psycho.
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>>98695466
>>98695497
And adding to this, one of the 3 rivals in Mizuchi has the "dragon king" as a name and is under a guy with one of the 12 katanas. Going by your theories, the dragon emperor HAS A LOT more of hints than the phoenix empress. Starting from the difference in names, one being a phoenix that has nothing to do with the fairy dragon, another being literally called dragon emperor. And then the dragon emperor having some kind of relationship with a god with one of the 12 katanas made of said dragonite egg.

With this I end my conversation here. I dont even like dragonfall but ffs
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>>98695466
Sorry anon if I didn't put a bunch of fucking disclaimers everywhere about what my opinion is. It's pretty obvious when I am referring to something known or my opinion and constantly saying that would make my posts too long but I guess you're an idiot. Explicit fag strikes again.
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First request cyoa. This ones from discord.

>one of those 'pick 1 of 2 waifus' but they're both ugly old dudes
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>>98695517
Tok confirmed the Dragon Emperor is not a Greater Dragon
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>>98695532
>It's pretty obvious when I am referring to something known or my opinion
> after the fairy landed in Mizuchi (and became the Phoenix Empress).
No, I am not in your head and if you do a phrase like this, thats an affirmation, then I am going to think you are affirming it.

If you are genuine about it, you must realize it objectively is not a sentence about an opinion. Is not about making the text too long. You were talking about some things that were confirmed, were those opinions too? because you talked about those in the same way.
An "I think" its not a lot of words to make a post too long if you are able to read at all, which I am starting to doubt if you can.
If I am an idiot you need to ask your country to give you money for your disability. Being probably in your 30s and unable to read nor write an opinion like an opinion is being retarded.
Have the day you deserve
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>>98695561
Good, I didn't think the dragon emperor was one, but I found funny how they were hellbent on the phoenix empress being the greater dragon when if one of those 3 was one, it was obviously the dragon emperor.
Another day where reading comprehension gives me the result. And well, this time also you. Thanks anon
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>>98695602
Yea anon in my first post I didn't but a fucking declaimer but I repeatedly emphasized it was my opinion in my follow up reply's
>>98695120
>Tok hasn't confirmed this but there are a lot of hints about this.
>>98695204
>SUGGESTING a scaleling
>it SEEMS likely
>the sort of tradition the fairy MIGHT start
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>>98695636
nta but what is your opinion about Tok? As a person i mean
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>>98695618
>it was obviously the dragon emperor
Lol, lmao even. Ruling out the Dragon Emperor doesn't rule out the Phoenix Empress. That's terrible logic. Imagine if Sherlock Holmes ruled out a suspect because a suspect he considered the more likely culprit was found innocent so it can't be the next person on the list.
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>>98695648
He a really horny bastard but we both like Dragons. His hatred was earned for real reasons but he is capable of good work. As a USA fag he is a bit like Donald Trump. Many people hate him to such a degree that everything he does is wrong but I go on a case by case basis.
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None of the 3 rulers of Mizuchi are greater dragons or even dragons. The dragons of Mizuchi are all about neutrality and would not stand for a dragon ruling over mortals.
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>>98695685
A WoG.
Hi, Tok.
How are you?
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>>98695661
This is not a sherlock homes book. This is Tok's mind. Which is something you all fail to see.
Keep thinking the phoenix empress is the fairy dragon if you want. Being wrong is not a crime. But I think its obvious that if in a 3 way fight, if one of you is called the Dragon Emperor, that one is the most likely to be the greater dragon. You know, Greater Dragons, the strongest dragons in the whole world known to the masses, whose births are a 1 in a thousand year event.
In your mind a Greater Dragon can fight a weaker dragon and the weaker dragon will be called Dragon Emperor while the Greater Dragon will be called a Phoenix...
Not only that but the mere 3 way deadlock itself meaning the like 4k yo greater dragon is not overpowering the lesser dragon and a guy that is mortal and recently got appointed as such. At that point Potential Man from JJK is stronger than said dragon and you and any player of dragonfall should commit seppuku if you all think the strength of the cyoa is so small.
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>>98695685
Alright I yield to WoG. It was always a theory and I don't think I was misrepresenting that. I do wonder what experience the Phoenix Empress has with Greater Dragons considering she has seen one first hand.
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Another day where simply reading comprehension saved the day. Ahh, it brings me back to the Spirit Conscript days when I debated with that anon a lot until the author came and said the obvious several times perk week. Good times.
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>>98695714
Dragon and Phoenix have gendered connotations in Asia anon, so I didn't use that logic because the Empress might have taken the name because she is a girl. Tok has confirmed she isn't the Dragon so the rest is moot.
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>>98695714
>>98695743
Spirit Conscript
Who's cares about that unbalanced piece of trash?
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>>98695743
Spirit Conscript was a particularly egregious example of this. For some reason it attracted badfaithfags like flies.
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>>98695756
Spirit Conscript is genuinely one of the best power fantasy cyoas ever made. Sad the pdf ban
>>98695757
It really was, back in the day it made me mad. But now I miss it.
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>>98695756
Better than dragonflop.
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>>98695757
>For some reason
It was a super intricate weeb setting built on BS hax, of course there were going to be disagreements
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>>98695757
>For some reason it attracted badfaithfags like flies
This is basically the entire reddicord
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>>98695315
Second request cyoa.

Will see about getting that fantasy arena thing done at some point near future, have it mostly drafted out. Going to be a lot higher effort than these two though, hence the longer time.
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>>98694858
Give me some decent images and I could do that.
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>>98695743
>I debated with that anon a lot
Might have been me but there were a lot of different discussions and rulings with a lot of anons. If it was it was actually constructive as the author ended up confirming the ABSOLUTE supremacy of certain options. It's why I haven't made any more builds, it's a solved CYOA.
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>>98695832
Cogfop, it seems the easiest to empower.
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>>98695873
Youre going to look like a tool tho.
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>>98695880
I am a tool, so it's fine.
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Speaking of, where's PCA?
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>>98695880
Calling the techfag a "tool". That's a compliment to them.

>>98695899
yep
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>>98695849
I doubt it was you, even within this discussion I don't think you are such an idiot as the other guy.

He was the one that thought the aura paper storage technique meant he could have trillions of papers with trillions of aura stored despite the technique having an stated clear limit. One example of the things he said.
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>>98695904
Wasn't he making another cyoa? Haven't heard of him since then
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>>98695848
What kind of images do you need? I could set up a folder, maybe, though not right now as I'm at work and looking up deformed mutants might get me fired.
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>>98695908
No that wasn't me. That really is dumb. I had a funny discussion with an anon who thought Transmutation would allow him to copy techniques (obviously not you), and several discussions about Illumination of the Heart with several different anons (that's the one I was thinking of). On the second one I was genuinely glad to know what IOTH actually did I still think the description is vague.
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>>98695940
Well transmutation does allow you to copy techniques , you just have to nerf them accordingly.
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>>98695972
Well that was the discussion. What constitutes a suitable nerf?
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>>98695940
>I had a funny discussion with an anon who thought Transmutation would allow him to copy techniques (obviously not you),
Then... we both discussed that guy. I also remember having to explain a lot to him about transmutation not being able to just do everything else.
Man, I miss him
>and several discussions about Illumination of the Heart with several different anons (that's the one I was thinking of). On the second one I was genuinely glad to know what IOTH actually did I still think the description is vague.
About IotH, isn't it just stopping soul and body alteration plus resistance to illusions or something like that? I just remember an anon thinking without it you just die like an Itachi fanboy discussion
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>>98695983
and on that I might add that more than one anon wanted to do it, but one of them was completely dumb about it.
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>>98687508
>might not automatically save
I never save cyoas at all, except when I'm downloading them to post them, after which I delete them immediately. Most worthwhile cyoas come from authors with author directories in the allsync, you don't normally need the files locally. And if you do want local copies (eg for more advanced searching) it makes sense to periodically download the whole allsync instead of saving individual cyoas piecemeal.
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>>98695984
The issue was soul attacks specifically. There are only a few ways to counter soul attacks and as a result I consider it the ultimate strategy. It also means the majority of core defensive techs are worthless IMO as they are tanky and require you to get hit (and thus be vulnerable to on touch soul attacks). I never thought not having IOTH was an instant loss but it did (and does) provide protection against some of the scariest abilities like Sigil's.
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>>98696056
kinoest cyoa
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>>98696036
nta but I was one of the people arguing in favour of direct soul damage beyond IOTH ability to defend. Glad I was proven correct.
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>>98696056
Seismic Strike negs your Legendary Status. Never forget that.
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>>98696109
I am not glad but it was a verdict that needed to be given.
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>>98696036
>It also means the majority of core defensive techs are worthless IMO as they are tanky and require you to get hit (and thus be vulnerable to on touch soul attacks).
Its more like pokemon. You can have a lot of physical defense like regirock, or a lot of special defense like Regice, but completely lacking one of them makes you vulnerable to counter.

Can you technically do some weird soul shit to a physical core guy? Yes. If he didn't train his soul to gain defenses he has a weakness.
That doesn't make the majority of core defensive techs worthless.

If you only have IotH and someone hits you with the equivalent of a 10 tons club in your face, you die. Meanwhile a core physical guy can tank it, regenerate and become stronger from it.

They protect different things and you die as long as one of those things is affected enough

> but it did (and does) provide protection against some of the scariest abilities like Sigil's.
thats true, its worth being legendary with how useful it is.
In general there is a weird squared rock paper scissor thing going on with affinities. With the most esoteric alchemy techniques being able to defeat core without hurting the body, but being unable to hit Phase, while Phase's speed is meaningless against huge aoe of Flow, and said aoe is tanked by core until it can hit the Flow user and kill him.
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>>98696056
Wish we got more info about Heaven and Hell, their techniques and their forces. As is we're basically going into the war blind.
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>>98691470
No immortality?
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>>98696159
irrelevant build
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>>98696124
And this >>98696124 is why I was pro IOTH. Only an immortal soul can ever escape impermanence with that ruling. I have accepted it though. To cling onto our flesh and try and punch mountains is counter to Budhhahood. All hail the Majushin Sorcerer Dynasty! The only true Gods!
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>>98696152
Well, you got Mai in heaven's side, a guy that is basically useless in fight and just about politics in hell's side, and the leader of the monks being a Flow user almost in legendary status of the Heaven side.
>>98696124
It doesn't. The basic hit of the legendary status of core can one shot the other guy and quickly regenerate the damage. Basically picrel
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>>98696151
>If he didn't train his soul to gain defenses he has a weakness.
There are NO ways to do that besides Legendary Alchemy.
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>>98696179
>pick Alchemy
>win
It's a simple CYOA.
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>>98696172
You don't regen soul damage anon
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>>98696179
I assume aura has some thing to do with it. The more aura you have the more chunky your soul is.
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>>98696179
the majority of people are not fully bend on one affinity. And its confirmed all the techniques we are shown are not just the only ones there. I don't doubt there is a less powerful technique that offers some kind of protection for the soul. Nothing close to immunity but I seriously doubt there is no other technique that reinforces the soul
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>>98696192
>t. jobs to pack of succubi
ngmi
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>>98696192
Hence why I said it is solved >>98695849
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>>98696194
You do. Soul damaged is healed, maybe not at the speed of the body but its not like if someone hit your soul 10 trillions of years ago you still have the wound
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>>98696202
it's okay they have 0 Charm
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>>98696204
Let's see.
Alchemy, how do you win a fight with a core chimera hunter whose weapon has that effect that the damage of summons reflect on you and is specially good against chimeras.
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>>98696195
>>98696199
Headcannon, There are no ways to directly reinforce the soul. There are ways to not be hit though which is why core is inferior. If your enemies are touching you, you have done something wrong.
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>>98696211
Unlike a certain retard. SC succubi strategy hinges on swarming and sucking alchemy nerds dry in moments. They have no need for charm because they are basically spiritual locust.
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>>98696223
Take a companion that deals with pests for you.
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>>98696163
No build is irrelevant, they are all precious and deserving of appreciation. Are they not the reason why you read (most) cyoas, so you could choose your own adventureā„¢? Every build is an anons adventure, even if they might be dumb or badly optimized.
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>>98696215
Who said my Buddha uses summons? As said everyone has multiple affinities. Legendary Alchemy isn't for combat it is to escape impermance.
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>>98696220
phasesissies acting high and mighty like they don't die to a gentle breeze
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>>98696231
I only care about the One True Build.
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>>98696211
That's why the original mythic succubi just raped sleeping people.
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>>98696232
We are talking about fights. Escaping death is good, but you need to defend yourself. Otherwise you are weak to being killed over and over again and at that point being immortal is not good. Words from our favourite skeleton who envies being mortal compared to reforming in the spiritual womb.

>As said everyone has multiple affinities.
That would mean you need different affinities, which means no affinity is inherently superior to other if to fight a guy with only 1 affinity, you need more than yours. Counters exist.
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>>98696209
Perhaps but it isn't influenced by bodily regeneration.
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>>98696230
Case in point. Alchemyjobbers hiding behind Corebvlls when faced with the weakest opposition. Embarrassing.
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>>98696249
>Counters exist
Yes and I have the one and only counter to soul attacks.
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>>98696240
reddit meme
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>>98696231
>Shelter
>Soulful Music
>Remixed Version
Universes containing this song are brought into a pocket dimension, one that is fully under your control and can be molded boundlessly.
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>>98696257
>Not being hit
>Killing first
>Stealth
>illussions
4 different solutions I quickly thought
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>>98696279
Yea which is why I said the core techs are worthless. I didn't say Phase or Flow were. Solved build is an alchemy+ flow, or alchemy+ phase build. It's like the Flash and the Hulk have roughly equivalent power but the Hulk would always lose to the Flash.
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Performance of a predestined event

>>98696319
>>98696319
>>98696319
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>>98696302
>Solved build is an alchemy+ flow, or alchemy+ phase build.
>Gets hit once by a 10k ton club and becomes red mist
You never learn
A Flow+Phase+Core is more likely to kill you than otherwise.
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>>98696335
Phase and Flow? Maybe. But core has nothing to contribute. Every ability in core that lets you tank or recover assumes you are taking hits in the first place which is inferior to not taking hits in the first place, and all the strength bonuses in the world aren't worth a dam if you can't land hits. Core anons lose to the fucking Jing Elixer, much less any of the secret martial arts.
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>>98696056
I really need to tighten up my build.

Tried to be/do too many things and diluted the character of it I think.
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>>98695552
>This ones from discord
You should just kill yourself
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>>98687904
Child of the Metal or (NSFW) Realm of the Vixen Queen.

https://imgchest.com/p/9p4nwxvw4nq
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>>98687904
Lord of Xen
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>>98695922
>What kind of images do you need?
Honestly? Quite a lot of everything. I dont think I have many post apoc/mutant images saved.
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>>98697442
There are two kinds of anons; discordfags and those in denial about being discordfags. You are the latter, and that's worse.
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>>98698784
I don't have a discord account and am not an attention whore faggot who would want one, I also don't have a reddit account. Not everyone is as patehetic as trannycorders



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