Of course the day I make the new general before work is when /tg/ is too slow to kill a page 8 thread and discussion dries up

I was looking at Emperor, and isn't there a lot of anti-synergy? The cool thing about the bow is that you don't have to avoid shooting your allies, you buff them when you do so. But then you have powerful buffs attached to overshields on tech abilities that you can apply to characters, and then when you hit them with the bow, it makes the buff go away the next turn. It becomes more limiting to use the bow which takes away the upside of it encouraging you to fire into groups and hit your own allies.

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i love this little faggot so much you wouldnt believe

>>98696984
It's a toolbox, you use the buffs on flankers and you hit the meatshields with the healbow

I still dont understand the paracausal entity stuff, how did they summon a demigod that disapeared later

>>98697435
To some extent, the point is to not make sense. But it helps to break down the meaning of the word.

Para-, a prefix that can mean beyond, or beside. Like paranormal, beyond the normal.
Causal, adjective form of "cause," as in cause-and-effect.
Combine them: outside cause-and-effect.

>>98697435
Dustgrave implies that Ra is actually benevolent towards humanity, so it might have intentionally removed itself from sight.

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>new cancer thread
>it's less than 18 hours old
>already been necrobumped one >>98696944 two >>98697093 >>98697435 three times.
>the exact same 'totally organic' discussion anybody with half a brain can see through
Why not just return to your discord and subreddit at this point?

>>98697700
You gotta chill out, man.

>>98697926
>4th bump
You have to go back

>>98697700
I love it. It's almost like a cross between asylum and zoo.

>>98692582
>Caliban
Very few things in life have disappointed me more than trying to play this thing.

>>98692582
So how do I run this shit without it being all about combat? I bought the PDF and it might as well not have Pilot rules at all and making encounters is miserable. What's the best way to make this work in totm without preparing battlemaps?

Is there any other mech systems more focused on pilot interaction and roleplay?

>>98698404
Mechwarrior, i myself am currently making a lancer hack for mechwarrior.

>>98697700
Hmm yes today i will discuss Lamcer and bump it's general on /tg/ to spite a miserable faggot who's mad that his unc games don't get enough traction. Remember, a stealth erp thread died for this

>>98697501
like fuck he is, he puts a mandated limit on lifespan when humanity could be living virtually forever
that's pure evil

I love the pixel style of the mechs made by retrograde and often use them, but i also need to draw my own, of course my style is very different, do you guys know any filter/website that turns normal drawings in pixel art?

>>98696984
the bonus shield then disappear can actually pair very well with Shahnameh if your genghis or whatever heatbuilder wants to have a turn going crazy then reset it back to zero

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>>98697093
DIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIE
DIE
BLEED
DIE
SUFFER

>>98698918
>puppet systems someone in front of the hound missile
what now?

>>98698727
Mind uploading is a murder box, same as Star Trek teleporters. RA is doing us a favor there.

>>98700845
he's also nixing biological immortality
which doesn't involve transporter paradoxes

>>98700884
>he's also nixing biological immortality
Strictly speaking, I don't think that's true. Medical technology that helps prolong the human lifespan is still around in plenty of forms. It's possible that RA doesn't predict/foresee/believe that any amount of biological research would actually extent human consciousness indefinitely like decorp would.

>>98697700
necrobumped? i posted when it was on like page two man (98697093)

>>98701032
nah he canonically put a hard limit on how long people are allowed to live

does any one have the mechsplo supplement

Is this game fun? I'm a huge mechafag and this seems to be the only real option.

>>98703493
It's fun but is both designed for a very particular type of midrange skirmish combat and has a pathetic lack of support for most non-combat/pilot rules. If you like the kind of combat it supports though you'll have a great time.

>>98703493
Also its setting is an infuriatingly mediocre clusterfuck written by annoying modern audience losers who have just enough neat ideas to make it sound inspired and original to normies.

>>98703493
I'd describe it as a streamlined/baby battletech, with very hand wavy RP elements. Literally need a expansion book to add basic RP mechanics.

>>98706083
>streamlined/baby battletech
wrong, there's zero battletech in this

>>98703493
Great if you want to make time with tgirls, questionable if you want to play a mecha game on tabletop.

>>98698109
You really gotta chill out, man.

>>98706128
why is that such a big part of the fanbase anyways?

>>98707363
Any fanbase of terminally online dudes will eventually have a nontrivial percentage of transgender girls; furries, tabletop games, anime, doesn't matter. Mechs in particular pull them out of the woodwork because if someone already thinks their physical flesh doesn't align with their self-image then the allure of a second skin of perfect metal is very enticing, and Lancer redoubles it by being nominally leftist.

>>98707411
>Mechs in particular pull them out of the woodwork because if someone already thinks their physical flesh doesn't align with their self-image then the allure of a second skin of perfect metal is very enticing
Mecha never at any point had any real attachment to the online pervert faction until specifically AC6 came out and a horde of molested puppyplay fetishists got really horny over the dog/handler themes. And even that is tenuous, they pretty much instantly balkanized to their own fanfic circles when they found out AC6 isn't actually sexual.

Lancer just had lots of them because it's an explicitly communist game and that doesn't really need any further explanation.

@98697700
you are a tranny sodomite

>>98707448
I disagree
The majority of the ones I know are big into gundam, battletech and star trek(to a little off- topic degree) and have been so even before AC6

I agree with the anon above you that it's more of a 'fusing with metal' thing they wanna do.

>>98707363
Idk man, maybe the rulebook can help us here
>art of tranny characters
>pinups of trannys
>the designated good guy faction is a queer trans communist utopia
>it's also the most described faction in the book
Hmmm... no idea anon.

>>98707411
>Mechs in particular pull them out of the woodwork
Hard disagree here, none of them cared about mechs until Battletech became popular and thus another vector by which to push THE MESSAGE and as >>98707448 said AC6 came out along with that one fanfic that started the mechsplotation genre. Prior to that there were pretty much no obvious trannys in the fanbase.
It's pretty obvious all of them are "fans" for political or fetish reasons as all the work they produce focuses on one of those lines, or both, with little thought given for the actual mech content. See this game, it's got none of the hallmarks of a mech game and the 'mechs' could be replaced by fantasy characters with no mechanical difference.

>>98707786
Don't forget about witch from mercury and the yuritards.

What's the best mech combat system? By best, I mean fast but still strategic, and highly customizable. Idgaf about the roleplay part, I'm going to homebrew that anyway

>>98707930
>yuritards
aren't like all of them butiful fertile animay womyn of their dreams o algo right here and now?

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I always hear people saying there's more to the Manticore than "lmao suicide", but what exactly is that? Does non-castigation Manticore have worth as a unit or are you playing a strictly inferior version of another license?

>>98708103
Reading it and the license systems it feels really strong, a heat based brawler specialized in energy damage. The self destruct is more of a flavor thing imo
Never seen it in action tho so this is pure speculation on my part

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just looked at the lancer discord for the first time and holy shit man I thought I was getting trolled reading the rules, what the fuck is wrong with these people

>>98708103
2 armor and resistance to energy and burn make you pretty tough and the ability to tack on 2 AP damage just by self-inflicting heat every round is nothing to scoff at. And the core power is 3/4 the power of the suicide bomb without the suicide part. You just have to be able to keep your enemies from getting away from you.

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>>98708159
holy shit nigger what am i reading, you sure as hell werent kidding
to list off a few
you cant link stuff from xitter because musk is a nazi
you cant name anything in your homebrew after a nazi (so like, all german sounding names are banned lol)
you cant joke about warcrimes (despite HA existing to make jokes about warcrimes)
you cant post pepe because hes a racist/alt-right dogwhistle

>>98708121
>>98708269
How does it compare to Lycan? Feels like it's the same frame just with extra goodies instead of the suicide bomb

>>98708377
few months ago i got banned because i posted art of a tank that looked like a merkava

>>98708453
lycan is in many ways just flat better and the parts where it isn't aren't that relevant for it

it's a power creep alt frame

>>98707930
I mean Gundam was already pretty gay before GWitch, so I don't know that it moved the needle all that much there.

>>98707943
>Fast
>Strategic
>Customizeable

Pick 2.

>>98708623
Are the altframes considered powercreep? Most of them look the same or worse than the mainframes

>>98709619
most of them are not it's the Lycan in particular that is a powercreep
similar to the Chomolungma being power creep over half the hacker frames out there

coincidentally, they were both made by the same person

>>98709653
Also the Tsukachevski over the Napoleon, but that's more a problem with the Napoleon than the Tsukachevski itself.

>>98708377
Lancer is like TrenchCrusade. There some neat art and the potential for a cool setting but it is completely and utterly destroyed and hamstrung but its """community"""

>>98709751
>neat art
wronga

>>98708846
Y doe
>Strategic
Have many options to choose from
>Fast
Can only pick one of those options each turn
>Customizable
You can equip different options in between fights
.
I don't see why a (good) system wouldn't have all three. Like, I enjoy lancer but two quick actions really slow down the game

>>98709677
yeh I'm not counting that one because on one hand it is power creep but on the other hand, it's effectively "what if the Napoleon wasn't a complete waste of a team slot"

why bother with dumb gimmicks when you can just lmao kill everything - basic bideo gam logic

>>98709751
Mostly correct but I don't recall any decent art.

>>98710058
umm you don't like tranny space pirates from space California?

>>98708846
MechWarrior/Battletech
>game is tight and plays fast once you've had a few games
>baked in system for swapping parts out
>game scales out to grand strategy or down to single person as you wish

Ok assholes, im homebrewing some fluffy roll tables for damage location (outside the usual one pc's and npc's with structure get) to enable some shenanigans.
so far i got the easy ones down:
1: cockpit shots, either annihilates the thing entirely or whats left of the pilot's foot is stuck on the pedal, so the wreck becomes a wandering ramming danger for everyone
2)chest shots: either normal chest shot that may or may not give a chance to the pilot to eject, an ammunition explosion thats like way milder version of a reactor meltdown (blast 1 1 or 2 explosive or force people in the area to make a save) to your usual reactor meltdown in a turn.
anyone has any fun suggestions for arm and legs shots?
was thinking maybe killing an npc with an arm shot gives them a chance to make a wildly inaccurate attack before the pilot eject or something.

>>98710110
a neat arm damage could be hitting their wepon, requiring a quick action to fix it or disarming it entirely
for example John protagonist shoots enemy badguy in the arm and manages to puncture the magazine of his weapon requiring him to reload/get a new battery/unfuck it
leg shots logically would be disabling/halving movement until a quick repair is used or some shit

>>98692582
i ran part 1 of no room for a wallflower when the game first came out waiting for parts 2 and 3 and as we all know that never happened. At least thats what I thought having found out there are outlines or something for parts 2 and 3 and i want to know is it worth it to even read them let alone are they playable? Getting the gang back together just for it to be hot fucking ass would piss me off to no end. whats your opinion /lg/

>>98692582
>look at this troon infested game
How does it keep happening. I know that they come with the territory sadly (no idea how poor hygiene and trannies = tabletop but hey ho it's like a force of nature at this point) but how do they reach such dominance in all these startups? It's always gays and grannies that just gain a stranglehold as mods etc. Insane shit.

>>98708377
I haven't seen pepe outside of communities with 4chan's taint on them in ages, and we obviously have a reputation. I don't blame them for that one.

>>98710340
Frogposting is an instant "maldjusted freak from /pol/" redflag or a vtard

>>98710227
In this specific case the guy behind Lancer made a mildly popular webcomic with tumblr art and a bunch of they/them shit (you know, the usual), so when he started doing Lancer they just followed and infested all socials around the game, despite most of them not even giving a shit about the part where it was a mecha ttrpg. I think to remember in the beginning it didn't even have the character pronouns in the rulebook until they appeared to be "the audience" for the game by being loud and making it insufferable for most regular people who were interested (you know, the usual), only to keep using the socials as their tranny hangout and not playing the game in any number that matters to this day.
>>98708159
>>98708377
I still remember way back, when I visited that cesspit one time being interested in the game, and stumbled on the channel where they listed ban reasons, and most of it was "vibes", like a specific one I remember, according to the list, was a guy getting banned for the way he wrote, like that was a sign he was up to no good, and then got unbanned further down after apparently another user vouched for a key on his keyboard simply being broken. Meaning, he was initially banned because a few of his words were missing a letter.

>>98710773
>In this specific case the guy behind Lancer made a mildly popular webcomic with tumblr art and a bunch of they/them shit (you know, the usual)
K6BD definitely had an audience here on /tg/, I'm pretty sure I first heard about it in filename threads ages ago. Of course, that was back when /tg/ was less influenced by /pol/.

>>98710830
as with everything on this site, /pol/ just makes it worse
if they had it their way it would be basically discord tier here as well, just discord tier rules they agree with

>>98710830
lole it "had" an audience because to got lame and gay. It's current state is beyond pathetic.

>>98710830
To you everything is influenced by /pol/, because you don't even realize how obnoxious you have become in your own right (that's me giving you the benefit of the doubt at least). /pol/ didn't make Lancer and everything surrounding it what it is, your friends did that in the first place just fine by themselves. And being capable of vaguely gesturing at the bizarre official discord having lost the plot a long time ago, should be more than enough to prove that this isn't a case of
>exaggerating things when actually they always used to be this way
Your friends loudly and proudly didn't want Lancer to be a mecha ttrpg first and foremost, so now don't get upset and find excuses when someone points it out.

>>98711285
would you even lose anything if you switched robbuts in lancer for basic dnd classes o algo

>>98711305
As queeftopia anon used to reiterate before the lancertroons pet mod got his iPhone range banned: you could replace the mechs with human fighters elf archers dwarf clerics and tiefling warlocks and the game would play exactly the same. Or words to that effect.

>>98710830
>"muh pol"
Your kind kvetch and squeal at the slightest hint of anything beyond your hugbox. I find it amusing that you allude to those you don't like wanting to make the board a discord circlejerk when your cult does it's level best to troonsform every space it infests into a heavily moderated echo chamber ala the lancer or 28mag discords. Its not "muh pol" its the old board culture you rainbow turd.

>>98711285
>>98711358
To me, everything is influenced by /pol/ because I watched firsthand how the culture changed during after Gamergate. It was an obvious psyop even at the time because the express purpose of posting that shit outside of the /v/ containment bubble was to convince people of a conspiracy.

Is lancer tranny coded?

>>98711453
yes

>>98711305
would you even lose anything if you switched the fantasy classes of D&D with big robots?

>>98711358
>Its not "muh pol" its the old board culture you rainbow turd.
saying as someone who's been around this place for longer than the average user has been alive, /pol/ in absolutely and utterly no way is old board culture, it takes itself far too serious for it, it actually picks a political side and supports it
for sucks sake how can you even begin to think anything old board culture would support fox fucking news?

>Multi session Lancer tournament arc's final round
>Horus cultists who hired me and one other player to sabotage the tournament we joined to sabotage in the first place are our last opponents
>They make the fatal mistake of assuming my Lancer values their life and won't grapple onto them while their mech is melting around them

Fun session, I got to beat three cultists in a game of mech chicken and lived. It was a near thing, last rounds heat check could've made me explode in a fiery ball of death but I passed it

Despite piloting a blackbeard

>>98711659
>blackbeard passing a heat check
this is how I know you're shitposting

>>98711659
question, why not just activate SEKHMET and bail out of your mech?

It's not like they'll stop grappling someone just because they're about to explode

>>98711675
I don't know how it happened either.

>>98711683
Cause the GM didn't level up our licenses between the matches so I was still License level 2 and had to do that shit manually.

>>98711683
because the yandere AI cat waifu will see an ejecting pilot as "the next closest (visible) target"

>>98711693
eject puts you 6 spaces away so you're not next closest target
the only issue with ejecting from SEKHMET is that you can't disable it but if it's already exploding that's technically not an issue

>>98711688
when you do finally get your NHP could always have them dig up the combat logs and hit you with a "you, pilot, I like you style"

>>98711683
>activate SEKHMET and bail out of your mech
doesn't that lead to getting flyswatted by your own mech?

>>98711740
see
>>98711703

as long as you eject 6 spaces away and enemies are within those spaces your mech will attack them rather than you

the only mech that is actually dangerous to bail out of is an Enkidu with an NHP in it, because primal fury will cause them to attack you mid evacuation

>>98711759
I'm still pretty sure she can overwatch the shit out of you while you're trying to eject

>>98711712
I imagine it'll go like that, I AM playing a former child soldier who considers themselves the wetware of their mech/ just an extension of it and gets angry if you do not call them by their numerical designation/ their current mechs' call sign. Which our company leader found out when they tried to be chummy and called them the name they had before they were kidnapped to be fodder for the meatgrinder.

That was a fun interaction.

>>98711765
that one depends on if your group lets enemies overwatch you if you eject or not
generally groups I've been part of have excluded ejecting from being a valid overwatch to avoid it being useless but you could argue either way
in any case, if the mech is currently grappling someone it can't take reactions so you're safe to eject

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Can Enkidu only use the plasma talons when it is in rape mode? The description of the ability only says "it rears up and EXTENDS" its plasma talons, which could mean anything from "you can only use them when enraged" to "they gain more range when enraged". I'm assuming it's the former, but I don't see any restriction on the talons themselves, compared to the Lycan's claws which DO have a clause saying they only work in Loud state.

>>98711807
I still think about the fact that Heero Yuy's codename is essentially George Washington in-universe but everyone just rolls with it.

>>98711834
nevermind, just saw the "danger zone" restriction

>>98711842
look do you want to see what he'll do to you if you make fun of his codename?
kid's not right in the head

>>98711878
,,,blow himself up?

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>>98711885
god that scene rules

Where does it say NRFaW Act 2 is being worked on?
I’ve got a Kickstarter pledge that still needs fulfilling.
They can give me an updated errata too.

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>everest is one of the best offensive mechs in the game
>chomolungma is one of the best hackers in the game
What's the Sag for? I don't regret picking it until LL2 or building it for cqc/melee and I got substantial momentum swings off its abilities but I feel there are several better options if you want a big bruiser/gunner, like the Tortuga or Drake.

>>98713464
The Sag is for having the Guardian trait at LL0 and 1.

>>98713464
Would Sag be fixed if it had one more point of armor?

>>98713977
either that or give it low level self heal

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Are Superheavies ever worth it? Aside from the cool factor of course

>>98714481
I've seen siege cannon put in a lot of work, 30 range (35 with stabilizers) can easily allow someone to just shoot into the enemy deployment zone turn 1 before they get a chance to move out

>>98714576
What about the melee ones?

>>98715863
the D/D 288 is mostly for style points, but it is very stylish when it goes off so people are willing to tolerate it

the built-in superheavies are very strong, maybe a bit too strong

combat drill absolutely can work if you have some semi-reliable way of triggering it's activation

and there's a bit of a funny thing with the tempest charged blade, usually mechs with heavy slots don't "really" want it, but it has a bit of niche use with the superheavy mounting to turn otherwise defensive mechs into surprising strikers

>>98715940
>Tempest Blade
Any examples? I think Calendula/Minotaur might be able to put it to good use?

>>98715963
well it's a very silly thing but I've personally ran, of all things, a friggin dusk wing with a tempest charged blade and had it actually work out

but to not be silly, I've actually seen tempest charged blade work out really well on an Orchis and bonus points for it being a pretty darn good thematic match, the only big issue is that you can't overwatch

calendula can work with it, though calendula definitely wants to tech attack to take advantage of it's sculptor of fate

there's also always the supreme sillyness of melee lich

and of course, there's always the Superheavy Enkidu which is all kinds of silly good fun

>>98716134
>calendula can work with it, though calendula definitely wants to tech attack to take advantage of it's sculptor of fate
Good thing there's a Horus core bonus that gives you bonuses for hacking a target, then hitting them with a melee attack (Thinking Tomorrow's Thought).

On the topic of superheavies, I'm interested in Lancer and wondering if there's a good combo of licenses or gear to play a Macross, ie enough missiles to pull an Itano Circus and a fuckoff huge energy cannon you may inly get to fire once. From what I can see taking a few levels in Monarch seems the way to go for missiles, but then it's a tossup between Sherman, Ghengis and Barbarossa for the big cannon.

>>98711568
Nope. As other anons have pointed out there is no change if you flavour the 'mechs' as human fighters or elf warlocks, it's the exact same. Because lancer is a 4e dnd clone and has exactly 0 mechanics to simulate mech combat. No location damage, no ammunition depletion, no component destruction, no real critical damage rules, nothing. It does not even have r&r, you just take a long rest and your chara- sorry mechanical is magically hea- repaired. It does not even have out of cockpit rules. Its just a lazy dnd clone.

>>98716644
yeh but that doesn't work with superheavies, which is why calendula with a superheavy is rather iffy

it's also why nelson doesn't work with it either, because nelson really wants to boost

Is this game as woke as people say or are they just looking for excuses to be outraged?

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>>98716686
Monarch is the designated Macross frame, no questions asked. If you want a fuckoff energy cannon, Sherman has a built in one and ab unch of laser guns as part of its license. But I'm not sure if you can have both in the same build while remaining functional

>>98716934
It’s very woke. But the in setting universe is advanced enough that wokeness is treated as medical issues and not a feature of personality.
Like there is a transsexual character. But like the Alien universe, she literally had her DNA rewritten to go male to female as a major medical procedure. So it’s one line.

>>98716766
TTT doesn't have to hit in the same turn it hacked, so Superheavies aren't actually completely out of the question. You just have to wait for LL6 to do it on a Calendula since it only has one mount.

>>98716962
You might be able to pull something off. Sherman wants to Stabilize to build up charges for its onboard laser gun, so you could run the GMS missile rack and RPG that have Loading. Range 10 does feel a bit short for a mech as slow as the Sherman though.

>>98716686
Something else a little unorthodox that might work if you're willing to trade the laser cannon for a kinetic one is a missile rack Raleigh.

>>98716962
Sherman's built in, the Solidcore, does have a wide beam and only takes up a Main slot so one could add a Heavy and Main missile system on top of that. But then Monarch needs to be your chassis if you want to missile absolutely everything within 50 so you'd need Sherman 3 for the Tachyon Lance (bigger damage but single target) or Ghengis 3 for the Plasma Thrower (slightly lower range and damage but variable AoE and leaves burning terrain).

>>98717163
Kinetic could be acceptable, it's why I'm a bit yempted by the Barbarossa and its railgun, though I do prefer a line AoE over single target. So far a Monarch with Plasma Thrower is starting to sound like the best one to shoot for. And then add +3 range to the plasma from SSC core mod, too bad the Monarch stabilizer only works on launchers and cannons.

>>98716962
Tlaloc isn't the worst to use with a tachyon lance since you can retarget anywhere within 20 range, but yeh the monarch really wants to use a launcher every turn, preferably one with either multi-targeting or accurate so the tachyon lance is a bit of a non-starter on it

if you want a big fuck you cannon on a mech that otherwise uses missiles there's always the option of going with monarch systems on a Barbarossa

With both siege stabilizers and stabilizer mod gandiva become range 25 and pinaka become range 30, so you can just plant your arse down while charging your apocalypse rail and reliably hit things way over yonder

something stupid but possible with the barb and pinakas (if you're actually willing to use that weapon, it's not the best) is that between resistance to explosives and armor 2 you can just danger close yourself with a pinaka to get something annoying off of your back

that said if you're going this option it's probably better to just take heatfall, use your high heat cap and fire the gandivas multiple times in a turn, you could get away with 1 or 2 turns of overcharging for double attacks before you have to overcharge to stabilize

>>98717201
I am dumb I forgot stabilizer mod adds ordnance, still range 20 with siege stabilizers on a seeking weapon should if you're picking a good spot to root yourself in get a bunch of double attacks

Was looking through the line weapons and I kind of have to ask, is there any reasonable way to use a railgun without either going 3pp and picking the Oleander or else by slapping nano-comp on it?

>>98717058
>a
>plural
There's multiple and additionally the only white people shown are explicitly tied to the designated badguy faction. Meanwhile the designated good guys are made up of mystery meat queerfats several whom I'm pretty sure have trans surgery scars.

>>98717281
the whitest dude in all of Lancer is the Lancaster pilot

>>98717281
Show me one that has the surgery scars

>>98716740
Confirmed for having never read the rules

>>98710214
The second part is coming out fully formed very soon, dw

>>98713464
It's a tank that doesn't have shitawful speed and evasion, and also has really good weapon mounts.
Unfortunately house guard exists and can turn much better frames into instant tanks so it gets heavily overshadowed.