All Shall Submit Edition>List Builder & Ruleshttps://sc.starcraft-tmg.com/>Tacticahttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/StarCraft:_Tabletop_Miniatures_Game/Tactics>Print-and-Play Cards and Instructionshttps://starcraft-tmg.com/downloads>Wave 2 Unit Focuses Immortal:https://starcraft-tmg.com/news/rules/immortal-glory-through-enduranceRavager:https://starcraft-tmg.com/news/rules/ravager-corrosive-death-from-aboveSiege Tank:https://starcraft-tmg.com/news/rules/siege-tank-thunder-from-the-high-ground>How-to-Playhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDBsIPVIOHw&t=3s>Art of War Battle Reporthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR4tT_UTlBc>Play On Tabletop Battle Reporthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fImg1-vXX8>Previous Thread>>98566857>Thread Question:If you could choose one unit for each faction (cannot be a named character) to be released in Wave 3, what would it be?
>>98692752>TQFirebats for TerransInfested Marines for ZergDark Templar for Protoss I think these have all been confirmed as coming, but I want them sooner rather than later.
>>98692752TQ: Ghosts so my dad will quit asking about them (personally I want Vultures as soon as possible), Lurkers, and maybe Archons. This is deliberately avoiding the announced/planned road map stuff since most of that makes sense as it is (a caster wave, a flier wave, etc.). I'd love more gimmicky drop-in structures like the Pylon. I'm hoping there's a consistent growth of terrain with each wave going forward.
>>98692816>That fucking designThe fact people genuinely believe SC1 has a better aesthetic compared to 2 is insane to me. >>98692752Spectres, Banelings and Dragoons
>>98692816>Infested Marines for ZergHow would you distinguish them?
>>98694294Worse shooting. Better melee. Tougher. Explode on death. Faster on Creep. Shi like dat.
>>98694294Same way they do in the games. Obviously.
Adepts are SHIT to assemble omg fuck these damn models
>>98697644Yeah loincloth part is ass, but at least you can go out of order and glue cord to head before you attach head to the rest of model without problems
>>98697644I found them fine, Goliath is what I nearly lost it with. Fuck those legs.
>>98697644I left the generator off to use as markers and they look fine, they pretty much just look like the shade
Still don't know what to do about the clear plastic parts
>>98697944Paint over then so you can actually see the details
>>98697949Was thinking of putting a blue wash over mine. How'd you do this?
List I'm bringing to my game in two hours. Should be fun to see how Kerrigan works at 1000 points.
>>98698154Drybrush white then blue ink, think I did it twice for extra highlights and to tidy up
>>98698324oh and a satin varnish to make it all shiny again
>>98698190She's a powerhouse, especially at lower points. Raptorlings are OP. Fine list.
>>98698361>>98698324Sounds simple enough. Looks good too! Might steal.
>>98692752Man, I don't care what anyone says. The Hybrid are fucking kino and some of the coolest enemies in any RTS.
>>98699299How? They're just tentacle 'toss with silly stats.
Will we get Spectres someday or do we need to paint Ghosts up as 'em?
Will Archon make models for Starcraft 3? Will we get models for the new Marines, in their more geometric armour, for example?
>>98700191>Will Archon make models for Starcraft 3?Jesus FUCKING Christ, anon. It has ONE trailer and almost no info has been released about it and you ALREADY want to consume?!?!?!Actual fucking cattle, genuinely kys!
>>98700191as >>98700735 said, fucking christalso its still another 4 years away.
>>98700191CONSOOM
>>98700735That's our Dahaka!
>>98700191Goy.>>98699299Yeah they are pretty neat>>98698190How'd it go?>>98697949Very nice, anon. Might do this myself.
Is it too much to have two Heroes? I kind of wanna run Artanis and Zeratul in the same list, it is however like 500 minerals in two models, so I have my doubts.
>>98702765Not at 2000 point games, no.
>>98702765even on taldarim you'd take 2 heroes and those niggas will want to sacrifice supply for buffs
>>98702960>you'd take 2 heroes and those niggas will want to sacrifice supply for buffsI really hope this is how Tal'darim play
>>98694352Seems fair
>>98703651it is unless mr designer i spoke to is reading this and will spite-nerf for spoilingwave 4 alarak with ravagers btw
>>98703898>ravagersThe unit we've all already pre-ordered? 'tis poor bait, m'lord.
Well I was possessed by a demon this weekend and have done the devils work: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cbcVod_79CbNLjqTbaSrLVpyOymHVq2K?usp=drive_linkThis is a complete build for a Warcraft TMG using the Starcraft TMG rules with a few main rule changes to smooth it out a bit, it is still best to have a copy of the Starcraft main rules around because this is very much a rough draft. >Why did you make the generic heroes WoW Classes?Because >Why can't I play X, or X unit is not in the game?!I am but one man, if I can get enough interest here maybe I will expand the scope but I am doing my best.
>>98705182Archon is 100% going to make a Warcraft game someday and I'm here for it. Give me plastic Night Elves and I will march to war for you.
>>98705278I think so too, I am just impatient and wanted to try out how a Hero system might work.
>>98700191that's not starcraft 3that will be a shooter
>>98692752thinking dominion Delta Squadron. Wish me luck!
just finished my first game it was amazing. i come from a warmachine, 40k, and killteam background and the game feels like it takes the best aspects of all those games. super excited to get more games in and play at 2k
>>98705559You already got one of those huge ramps?
Have they said if Primal Zerg are coming to the game?
>>98707747Hope so. I think Primals are the coolest thing (and biggest example of wasted potential) in all of Starcraft.
This company stole my money
>>98708001Good. Kys.
Less shitposting more models. Got these guys put together yesterday and had to start painting them immediately I'm so hyped to have my shit finally.
>>98707747They talked about wanting to do variants but that'll be later down the road- solid chance they'll actually get to them though with the game doing better than expected and the trailer for the new game generating some buzz and at least killing the 'dead ip lol' argument.
>>98708409I'm one day away from finishing my UED army (at least until new units arrive, will be posting them tomorrow)
>>98709004Did you have fun painting white or did you pick one of the squadrons?
>>98709004>UEDPics? I want to do 'em but painting so much white over blue plastic is scary :'(
Wave 2 rules are up!
>>98709043>>98709064Im going for a Starcraft 1 style color scheme, so the marines are mostly dark metal with only a couple selective white parts, Medics being the painful exception.That said, since im going a bit grimy with wear and tear, I'm not suffering that much, basically slapping some thick Glacier blue over the metal base coat without perfect coverage, and stippling some actual white on the parts that catch more light, and I'm gonna paint Raynor green because everybody knows that Terran and Protoss heroes are green.
>>98709505>and I'm gonna paint Raynor greenI was actually thinking of doing that myself since I might wind up with two of him since another friend wants the zerg half of the box apart from one I already split one with. Be neat to paint one version of him SC2 style and another in the classic version
Immortal fucking fucks when it comes to sniping heroes holy hell>>98704417meant reavers, sorry but I didn't actually play that much of sc1 (just terran campaign) so I mistyped. Also either epic scale or 3k/apocalypse sized games are starting talks
>>98709684>Alarak Comes with Reavers, a unit that has nothing to Tal'darimThe bait gets worse.
>>98709768look, that's what i've been told a week ago when they came to the lgs and guy was just dropping spoilers since he saw my Taldarim painted protoss. Should they be believed? Idk, he did use both Blood Hunters and Ascendant instead of their Daelaam names so I didn't even try making a guess which one would be his/faction unique unit and not like Taldarims aren't just reskins that have all ass to do with actually owning any unit as their origin. And those were those I did remember more accurately with buffs at 5 lost supply being either Critical Hits or Precision at the downside of Taldarim faction card not giving you Psionic Energy. Minor ones were High Templars/Tassadar having psionic storm on template, and absolute territary one being that Fenix starts as infantry and after dying can redeploy as a Dragoon
>>98709825ok buddy>>98709505I love this scheme. It looks just like they do in-game. I might steal it for my UED. >>98709684Weird you need to pay to upgrade the Immortal to remove more than one model per attack but otherwise a pretty cool unit!
>>98709684>epic scaleDamn how I would love to play one of those, a pity my gaming table isn't that big
SCgrogs, is there even a unit that you would consider adding to Protoss that would be fitting for support/core slot instead of elite?
>>98710550>SupportArbiterOracleDark ArchonSentry variants (Havoc, Energizer)>CoreZealot variants (Aiur, Sentinel, Legionnaire, Centurion)Supplicant
>>98710550Nah, Protoss are kinda like Custodes where all their shit has to be elite to reflect the core gamplay of both versions of SC
>>98710592thats already handled by supply better i think, i was just wondering if future lists would be more than 0/x elite free and plenty of others in spare droves
Will we get the Infestor? I wonder how he'd work in the game or if it's the sort of unit that'd be too difficult to balance on the tabletop?
>>98711031Man, I wanted to like those guys in the game but I always found them kind of niche. A lot of the new zerg units/mechanics felt like that I had to babysit them in order to use their abilities at the right moment, forcing a lot more micromanagement. It wasn't just zerg rushes. Hell, a lot of times you'd have to go back to the hive if your recently dead zerglings respawned (thank goodness you could set rally points for that).Terrans and to a large extent the Protoss didn't seem to suffer as much from that. Maybe it's just me. Maybe also it's because it's been ages since I played and my memory is shite. It felt like the Zerg were much squishier. More emphasis on surprising from the ground, or unexpected movements on the battlefield. A lot of that depends on which upgrades you choose. Zergings with jump, the ability to move when burrowed.I don't know, maybe I'm overstating things. Maybe I'm just full of shite.
What's a rough percentile of minerals typically spent on non-weapon upgrades relative to models? Figuring out how to go about 1000pts on Terrans and expanding that to 2000pts sometime later.
>>98713022I spend roughly 25% of my point limit on upgrades I find. Roaches and Hydralisks LOVE their upgrades
>>98713541I tend to cramp as many unupgraded units as possible, Its probably a bad idea, but I just love seeing many units on the table, and it will only get worse as more units are released.
>>98700735>>98700943>>98701190>>98702621Damn, alot of dirty Yahwidel pig monkeys in this thread, he's just hyped for the future of the game you coincuttas.>>98708334Dude what the fuck is wrong with you, your acting like he just Lindsey Clancyed your whole family.
>>98707747>>98707863I hope they release a large range of Primals and Primal versions of existing Zerg like Roaches and Hydralisks. I want to be able to field a huge Pack of 'em, led by Dehaka
>>98713573Its the ceo
>>98713022for 2k on protoss i make sure to give zealots at least MLfA and leg enhancment, for adepts i always give the RoA buff so ends up maybe like 15% of mineral budget on upgrades
I still can't decide how to build my siege tank.
>>98713835Can it be built in a way where it can be magnetized?
>>98713845yes, but actually nohttps://www.youtube.com/live/IUb7eYzJzcA?&t=2877
Question for pylon, on round 2 if I deploy from it I can still activate the deployed unit in movement phase? So i could do something like pylon-deploy->use Khalai to activate another unit->move the just deployed guys?
>>98713968IIRC the deployment is just treating the pylon as an entry edge.Since there is no "deployment" phase, just moving the unit from that edge and into the game.
>>98713877>71 magnetsDoesn't sound as bad as that one Baneblade magnetizing kit (which has an astronomical amount of parts and variants), but Jesus.
Little bit of drybrushing sure goes a long way to making these guys look good- can't decide if I should darken the marauders tho or stick with their primer as the base and go lighter
Do you guys use the transparent plastic bits as-is or do you paint them? How do you paint the lenses and shooting effects?
>>98714504Varnish and contrast paint if i want tintvarnish, white/grey primer if I want full recoloration and don't mind transparency loss
>>98714697Varnish first then contrast? I'm guessing varnish helps it stick without covering it up.
>>98714876if you want to tint and aren't shifting too far on the hue then yes, so it will act like a transparent primer so it sticks to it, if you go too far you kinda have to do normal primer into the color that you want
>>98715082Much appreciated anon.
>>98712915>I don't know, maybe I'm overstating things. Maybe I'm just full of shite.Nah. StarCraft 2 was a good rts, even great, but the apm creep exploded as competency grew. A lot of the new units were made just to give pros something to do; chronoboosting, injects, spellcasters, old units given new abilities, etc. The idea was to give players options, but the reality was why try to micromanage a ton of shit when marines, zerglings, and stalkers are just good enough? If you're opponent is being clever, just cross the map and punch him in the face.
>>98715179>The idea was to give players options, but the reality was why try to micromanage a ton of shit when marines, zerglings, and stalkers are just good enough? Because a faggot protoss player presses T a couple times and deletes everything.
>>98709825>Fenix starts as infantry and after dying can redeploy as a DragoonBullshit of course, but that would be COMPLETE FUCKING KINO HOLY FUCKING SHIT OMG
Anyone painting their Terrans as Moebius Foundation/Corps? I think they black and yellow colour scheme would look awesome on the Terran models and we know Hybrid are on the way so it'd be pretty sweet to play Moebius
>>98715179The zerg may also feel especially egregious in that regard due to how Kerrigan was implemented as always there, central to nearly every mission. Micromanaging was there right from the start. Mind you it was still a better experience than the fucking Terran campaign having rushed missions due to a forced timer bs. Get to the artifact finish line before Kerrigan! Keep relocating your base away from the giant wall of fire! Don't let the Tard'darim cap all the cocaine geysers! Well shit the floor is lava again! Gotta outmine the Dominion to pay Matt's whore girlfriend! Chase that train!Fucking hell, I don't know what they were thinking. Will the tabletop recapture that magic with a chess style timer?
>>98716202I'm thinking of doing my dudes up as Mengsk's Royal Guard. They're kino looking and we're meant to be getting Arcturus at some point so it'd be awesome to have him and his guards on the table.
>>98692986Eh, I think the problem with SC2 specifically for the terrans is not the redesigns themselves, but the fact that their proportions end up looking fucked when seen from any angle but top-down. The Thor and Marauder in particular are top heavy to the point they look cartoonish compared to not only SC1 units but SC2 versions of SC1 units like the Goliath and Marine which are more reasonably shaped.
UED done (for now)
>>98719156Solid work anon!
>>98719347Thanks, IMO the founders set should have had 4 marauders and 2 Goliaths, 6 marauders is way too many, and will probably be the first unit to go when I add the siege tonk.
I dont have any models, i played SC2 way back when, and i love the marine armor.Just awesome. And that trailer blizzard did back in the day.Probs one of the best game cgi trailers still to this day.I want a box of marines, but i dont want ten.I want like...four.
>>98719612Have you considered looking online for spare models or sprues? It's a pretty young game so you're unlikely to get the small boxes and shit, so you may just be SOL.The box itself is like, fourty dollars plus whatever shipping, so not that much for a one time purchase.
>>98719652nah, i have a queue of trench crusade to paint and three gundams to build.and dont want to add too much shit to do.
>>98719657>trench crusadebro, a trench crusade warband can be painted in a day
>>98719156Fucking awesome. I love this way of painting the UED.
>>98719156close to having that force, 2 marauders instead of 6 and 3 medics instead of 6. gonna wait till we get firebats before i get more marauders.otherwise really like how youve gone for good ol MMM. marines, marauders and medics.
>>98720858Bio Terran is always good
>>98721338You'd think so but no
>>98719156>UED MaraudersThe very idea...Fighting these fuckers was hard enough in Brood War without them having an easily spammed anti-armour unit.Looks good anon!
>>98716202No but I really want to play an "All Khalai" army that represents the Golden Armada following its possession by Amon. I really hope we get a Selendis model so I can have a fluffy leader.
>>98719156Had my doubts about the green Raynor, but damn was I wrong. Solid work anon.
>>98720858>really like how youve gone for good ol MMM. marines, marauders and medics.Actually I didnt go for anything, this is the Terran part of the All-in pledge of the crowdfunding campaign. I just wanted to get a starting point ready without thinking.Now that I know how the game and list-building work, basically my plan will be to get one of every new thing that releases and a lot of stuff will still be cut from the lists because you can't fit that many things in a 2000 mineral list but at least I'll have options to keep the games fresh. That said I may still get two copies of units that I particularily like, Siege tank for example at least to be able to build both versions.
>Siege Tank is the same cost as a Missile swapped GoliathGoliath offline.Seriously though a base Siege tank with Transform and Coordinated seems strong.
>>98722256>5+ saves Tanks are made of wet cigarrette paper these days.
>>98722424>indomitable gives defender evade roll>siege tank has no evade stat>obligatory 40pts tax, argueably 60 if you wanna snipe from deploy edgedamn i hope they give you terrans something eventually>>98721439i got a feeling that Taldarim under Ma'lash faction will be the ones for Amon-aligned protoss to get Hybrids (if you could ally them in that is). Overall once there are more subfaction variant units in each it might get annoying trying to find balance between functioning and fluffy
>>9872252910/10 bait man.
>>98722256>Goliath comes stock with anti-air missiles>no air units to shoot atIt feels like a misstep to release the anti-air unit before the air units
>>98724031I cant wait for the air units though, Starcraft is not the same without its wraiths and mutas.
Just bought another box of Zerglings and Roachies at my local store to represent raptors and viles. I know its not necessary to represent the units accurately but my autism always prevails.
>>98724740I bought the same combo of boxes because I want to bring my Zerglings up to two squads of 18 and I want to run Corpsers and Viles in the same list. Zerg really do get like twice as many unit options are the other factions thus far lol
>>98724031Terran have a natural advantage against air, since not only they have the Goliath but they have Marines which is the only basic troop of all three factions that can counter air power, If I brought two lists to a tournament I would make one without any air at all to use against Terran.
>>98707747>>98707863>>98713744>PrimalsIn Co-op Primal Zerg just use standard Zerg skins 99% of the time with a strange gray-green scheme so you could just use that colour for the Zerg models, paint Kerrigan up as Primal Kerrigan and BOOM you playing Primals.
>>98725325Are you retarded? I clearly meant the actual primal units from campaign, not the co-op generic Zerg reskin.
>>98721439>>98716202The UED, according to Archon, will allow players to bring a mix of Zerg and Terran units in one army. I plan to wait for that sort of army list to come out before I try and make an Amon-aligned force.
>>98726889I would've thought they'd have more advanced equipment, but the Umojan Protectorate probably covers that base.
>>98726889The UED will (hopefully) have Duran as a model as well so that would actually a pretty kino way of representing a force loyal to Amon.
>>98726935It kinda sucks though that the only UED in-game hero is a non-UED double agent. I suppose the UED will just be a faction card and probably valkyries, but its tough to justify bringing a 100% AA unit that cant even target ground. But including Zerg in the list... does that mean I have to paint my Zerg white too?
>>98727001Duran and Stukov seem like a given imo for a UED release. This + a faction card and an army list that lets you bring Zerg is more than enough to make them "feel" right and play like the UED should.
>>98727041But Stukov is gonna be infested Stukov from SC2, either as Kerrigan swarm or as his own infested terran faction and not the human Stukov from the UED. DuGalle would be Battlecruiser which Archon already said they won't do because of the scale.
Would I be allowed to proxy these guys as Zerg units?
>>98722668not everything is bait, here it's wishful thinking that amonites will actually get shit
>>98727217Tournaments? No. Anything else, sure.
>>98727041I feel like Stukov would be more of a puritan terran guy whereas Duran would include zerg and such.
>>98727076I obviously meant SC1 Stukov, 'tard.
>>98692752>TQI want Specters and Ghosts.After that I want Wraiths
>>98727489Sure, but the only SC1 Stukov unit is a civilian model.
>>98727582NTA but he uses a Ghost model in-game
>>98692752>TQReapers are literally my fav unit in all of Starcraft so we NEED those. Swarm Host is a unit I'd love to get on the table just because it's such an odd unit. I want a full Purifiers army and most of the Protoss range can be painted up as them, but the Zealot looks far too different from the Purifier Sentinel to be painted up as and used as one, so I'd want the Sentinel to get a release.
>>98727624>Loves Reapers and Purifiers What a genuinely bizarre pair of things to like. I never think about Reapers, never even hear anyone talk about them, and loathe the Purifiers due to their dumb af loreWeird...You're weird
>>98727740>You're weirdWell fuck you too, cunt.I've never got the hate for Purifiers. They're robot Protoss. That is objectively the coolest thing in all of sci-fi!
>>98727740wats wrong with reaperrs
>>98727582And Mengsk is only ever seen in a BC yet he's coming to game. They get to take some creative liberties.
>>98724031Makes sense desu, if they add anti air options to the units now they dont have to patch it in to the rules when flying comes out. Also imagine having to reprint all those cards half a year after first release. Arnt air units meant to come out wave 4 anyways?
>>98729577The major air units are wave 4 but Raven is coming in Wave 3
>>98727740Reapers were cool in the mission they were introduced for in WoL, and arguably better than Hellions in their own mission too.I wish we had reasons to use them in the rest of the campaign, but that's like half the units of the roster anyway.Goliaths, Diamonbacks, Hellions, Wraiths and Thors were complete memes.
>>98711031I think we will get them but with very nerfed infested abilities- I think it will support infested terrans healing/spawing more- The infest part will be meh: Roll to infest a unit (there will be limits on what can you infest), if you succed you can force it to do a move or shoot at a friendly
>>98729667Maybe also a zerg/infested marine unit can be deployed from it once a game?Also i wonder if in the future there'll be a possibility of carbot promo models.
>>98729702>Also i wonder if in the future there'll be a possibility of carbot promo models.I would literally buy every single unit in "Carbot Mode" if they released waves of Carbot models.
I hope we get Stukov, Infested Colonists and Infested Marines and Infested Tanks and so on because I want to play an all Infested army with nothing but Infested Terran units
>>98730523Stukov is in the works. He was meant to be wave 5 after flyers if you check >>98729577
>>98730523Stukov + Infested, Tal'darim and Primals are the things we know are confirmed.
>>98730770Also Nova and Firebats (though 2 different waves)
>>98730870>NovaAfter reading the novels and comics, plus the Nova Terra Ops dlc, she's my favourite Terran character by far, so I can't wait for them to release a model for 'er.
>>98732052>she's my favourite Terran character by farI've always liked Nova, but my fav Terran is Arcturus Mengsk. I always loved him in-game but Co-op Mengsk, plus the books Uprising and I, Mengsk, cemented him as one of my fav parts of all of Starcraft.
The Fáfnir brood! Rushing out soon to a battlefield near you!
My image got uploaded upside down… words fail me
>>98732411Shiiiiit dat white boi got da DRIP
>>98732052>she's my favourite Terran characterSame actually. A surprisingly nuanced and well crafted character.
>>98692752Just got myself a box of zerglings. What are some examples of canon colors?
>>98735162Just look at any opponent colour during the campaigns.Or just pick a multiplayer colour.
Zerg color test
>>98732678They'll fit right in with the rest of the australian wildlife lol
>>98729577>Release the Goliath alongside the air units>Would have to patch the rules of the Goliath that wouldn't need any changes
>>98735162The SC1 manual has Brood names, lore and canon colours listed at the end of the Zerg lore section
>>98736606https://devnonsense.com/pdf/StarCraft-manual.pdfThere we go.
Dead game?
Batch painting Zerglings is so much worse than batch painting Tyranids for some reason.
>>98738707What's the problem specifically? Minisodes made it look easy and I've yet to make a start.
>>98738722More detailed so more paints used and much more "closed off" poses so it's annoying to try and get into all the little bits hidden by their arms and such
>>98738737>2 Full Units>Kerri's Special Raptor UnitI have 42 Zerglings to paint :/ Will be pain
Zeratul or Artanis for my first hero?
>>98739574Artanis is much easier to use when getting into the game. Zera is actually quite a complex hero who is hard to play right.
>>98740258Yeah probably a good call. Kinda wanna go ahead with my cringe idea of making a Selendis mini and run it as Artanis for some good Primitive glassing fun along with lots of zealots. Still getting the Artanis model model though to support the game.
>>98740643>SelendisShe's confirmed as coming some time down the line so either wait or make a proxy you can use as Arti then play with her official rules someday.
>>98737212I can post random stuff toohttps://www.scribd.com/doc/259959459/Alternity-StarCraft-Boxed-Set#page=98&bby=0.02
Lore Deep Cut that I'd like to see on the tabletop, Ulrezaj and his servants. Give 'em a faction card for the Fist of Ulrezaj/Aiur Tal'darim and a model plus a THICC AS FUCK statline. Would be kino
Is the starter box with both terrans and zerg not a thing anymore? Can't find it anywhere.
>>98742153Founder's Edition was a limited thing, yeah.
zerg seem so fucking strong it's kinda absurd
>>98742153The individual starter sets have better force compositions than the founders anyway.
>>98742153My local store in the UK still has like 15 of them in the back not selling.
>>98743019I'm actually finding Zerg hard to play correctly. Currently lost to the Terrans 3-2 and 3-0 against the Protoss.
>>98743844how are bongs feeling about James Workshop? maybe they aren't as fatigued as the rest of the world?
>>98727001They've said we might get Lt Rosa Morales from Co-op and Heroes of the Storm for the UED.
>>98744011Gw is super strong here, going to head office for a pilgrimage is still seen as a blessed thing. It just overpowers all other tabletop games. Ive been in this store for so long but I got to go other smaller places to get my fix of games like moonstone.Im trying to get a community for starcraft going but im really busy with work and im juggling too many games
>>98742153There's some at my shop but I don't want zerg, I just want the terran.
>>98744490>I just want the terran.BASIC
>>98744668You hush, space rednecks are cool. I also want protoss.
>>98744687>I also want protoss.Alright, you saved it.
>>98744713I just don't want to do them out of sequence so I'm waiting for the next terran boxset, might just pick up the new wave stuff so it's ready anyway.
Replaying Starcraft series. Duran/Narud is a cunt and I am glad we got to follow him into Squid God Afterlife to destroy his soul and make sure the fucker stays perma-dead.
>>98746706>Duran/Narud is a cuntDude helped fight off the invading UEDickheads and kick them back to Earth with their tales between their legs. Octopusboi is a HERO!!!
>>98746893UED are the good guys though
>>98746706I replayed II, I forgot how horrendous it gets the second Zeratul goes on about the bullshit prophecy.
>>98746893>Care about genetic purity >Powerful enough military to keep their people safe>Want to rid the galaxy of Zerg and Protoss to keep mankind safe>Want to remove the Dicktator Mengsk from power >Has actual medics for its men>Doesn't Neural Resocialization its troops >Braves the horrors of an unknown region of space to protect the humans dwelling there>Admiral tries to save his men by admitting defeat to the Queen above Char and begging for mercy to keep the loyal men and women of his fleet safe>UED ARE THE BAD GUYS!!!?????
>>98746921I've softened on SC2 over the years and come to appreciate the story and characters for what it is. Still, I prefer the story of SC1.However, Zeratul is one of the greatest characters in all of sci-fi and I'll hear no fucking slander about him!>>98746893If I had to live in the Starcraft universe and got to choose which faction to belong to, I'd be a hardcore, die-for-the-cause UED supporter.
>>98746934If anything the Admiral's biggest misstep was allowing himself to be convinced that Stukov was a traitor when the guy was a crazy maverick commander, DuGalle couldn't keep it together on his own.
>>98746976That whole part was IMO very lazy writting
>>98746995I thought it was okay in that it explained why you could take chunks out of the UED throughout the other campaigns. As for Stukov getting stiffed, yeah that was a big leap for DuGalle I thought unless Duran used some psychic trick or something.
>>98746956>I've softened on SC2 over the years and come to appreciate the story and characters for what it is.Yeah, SCII's story was mid, but it wasn't insultingly bad. Particularly when you look at the way other IPs rape their legacy characters for the shittiest conceived sequels.Hell, Starcraft II isn't even the worst storyline in-house when you look at the abomination WoW has turned into with Sylvanas becoming one of the most insufferable cunts in video game history.
>>98747010Raynor saving Mengsk because Zergriggan said >UED bad because of the 260 year old stories from EarthI don't think Raynor would become an UED lover, but saving Mengsk and helping the Zerg? that's quite the stretch. But the thing about RTS campaigns is that you need to fight against all factions and several combinations of them, so in the end the whole side switching and spontaneous alliegances are pretty much a plot requirement, though I think SC2 actually resolved it better by including multiple subfactions, while in SC1 it was the game limited cast of characters doing the weird side-switching dance.
Terran force ready to finish, if i dont get sidetrack it shouldn't take me long to finish these guys.Not gonna base until the entire 2k army gets done. Thinking sand for them.
>>98747056Yeah in that case I think it was hard for them to figure it out compared to say, Warcraft 2 and 3.
>>98746995I wouldn't say lazy, more just rushed. Even one more mission would've given this plotline more time to grow but they were held back by the amount of missions each campaign got. I like it, even if it's a little hasty.
>>98747056>I don't think Raynor would become an UED lover, but saving Mengsk and helping the Zerg? that's quite the stretch.Better the devil you know
>>98742153>>98743308>make FOUNDERS EDITION set featuring Terrans vs Zerg>Roaches, no Hydralisks>Marauders, not Firebats/Vultures>no Goliathwtf even is this
>>98748667>wtf even is thisA founder edition based on SC2, like the bulk of this game is. Not hard to figure out.
>>98746956>However, Zeratul is one of the greatest characters in all of sci-fi and I'll hear no fucking slander about him!Trvth Nvke
Anyone know of a company that sells mats with an aesthetic similar to pic? Like a space station or underground base that's being overrun by alien biomass?
>>98747121Really is neat how just a few basic base coats are all it takes to get the terran models looking solid- the raised faces on the shoulder pads do wonders for their presentation
>>98749888Archon is gonna make more Starcraft terrain, so getting something like that officially is not out of the question
>>98750028Char themed terrain would be kino
>>98750044Thinking of basing all my zerg on char, no clue how though...
>>98748667Brood war balance is a lot whackier and uneven with just the starter units than SC2's, so obviously they were going to follow the buildpath for the latter in the first few waves.Not like you literally didn't get all the SC1 units anyway on the side except the firebat which is coming next set, the dragoon which is replaced with 2 cooler units, and the vulture which is a unit that can wait on account of how weird it'll be to implement.
>>98750066Something like this anon? Black crackle paint on top of a mix of reds and oranges. Hairdryer to exaggerate the crackle effect.
>>98750220Oooh that looks good, though I might try and get the cracks a bit bigger. Also was thinking of getting a lot of greenstuff op make creep for my queen n hydralisks
>>98750220Mmmm... chocolate Hydralisk
>>98750066>Thinking of basing all my zerg on charThe missions set on Braxis, Borea and Kaldir are my fav missions involving Zerg or controlling Zerg in all of Starcraft so I'm basing my Zerg on snow and ice :)
>>98750295>BraxisThat world had it rough. Invaded by Protoss, UED, Protoss again, the Zerg, then Stukov and his Cerebrate friend set up shop there so the Protoss came back and Purified the world, then during the Second Great War the Zerg invaded it again.Like seriously, that's a cursed fucking planet.
>>98750241For bigger cracks, you’ll need bigger globs of paint. As for creep, I use PVA White glue and super glue mixed together. Paint once dried.What’s the plan for colors?
>>98750389For zerg colours? No idea yet. Im gonna paint kerri her own colours but for zerg im thinking a dirty beige basecoat with brown contrast. If im doing char I might do charred carapace on some of them. Roaches will be a different colour like in sc2.
>>98746956I don't mind Zeratul, he's great. I mind that he becomes a vehicle for essentially some fantasy prophecy bullshit purely to shill miss Mary Zerg, and how it just slams straight into the rest of Wings of Liberty.
>>98750364>then Stukov and his Cerebrate friend set up shop there so the Protoss came back and Purified the worldAH! I fellow enjoyer of the extra (but canon!) SC1 campaigns! I like you, my dear anon!
I wonder if Nova is going to come with a Dominion Special Forces faction card or if they'll release said faction later down the line when they release the (confirmed) Special Forces models themselves.
>>98755228>(confirmed) Special Forces modelsLegit?Fucking love Nova Covert Ops and would play the shit outta dem
Co-op Dehaka and his Primal are literally the most fun I've ever had in all of Starcraft. Until they release Dehaka and his goons, me no buy >:(
>>98692752Don't care if the TQ says we're not allowed to choose a name character, I want Desolate Queen Kerrigan. Fucking LOVE her design and plotline in HOTS I'd settle for a Promo Model you can use with current Kerrigan's profile but I'd much prefer a bespoke profile and maybe even a sub faction for her
>>98692752>TQLurkers, Reapers, Vanguard
>>98746956>>98749756>fallen member of race sacrifices himself to save said raceIt's Grom Hellscream 2.0
>>98757818That's hardly a bad thing
>>98756206It'd be cool if they released her and she could also be brought in Terran lists. She did (kinda) work with them in Flashpoint and the start of HOTS
>>98756127>>98730770>>98713744>>98707747>>98707863The Primals have a unique skin in PvP so they be lazy and just say "here's rules for Primal Zerg, paint the existing models differently" but if they actually released all the unique Primal unit there's enough there to almost have a full faction.Primal Ultralisks, Zerglings, Hydralisk, Mutalisk, Ravasaur, Igniters, Creeper Host, Zerusian needle, Quillgor, Tyrannozor, Primal wurm, Viper, Glevig, Murvar, Dakrun, Zweihaka and Dehaka.That's a fairly big army that Archon could milk for releases if they wanted to. I, for one, hope they want to milk it :D
>>98761453>That's a fairly big army that Archon could milk for releases if they wanted to.They already plan to milk the Tal'darim and Nova's Speical Forces, I'd say them wringing Primals for everything their worth in order to pad out releases is a given
I paint a lot of purple for other games, are there some fun non-purple Zerg paint schemes from the games?
>>98761930Red or orange are pretty solid zerg colours.
First 1000 M game. Turned out 6:6, misstakes where made but the game was fun anyway. Dunno how i feel about sitting on objectives, this kind of sucks. I hope there will be better missions in the future.
>>98762285>Dunno how i feel about sitting on objectives, this kind of sucksObjectives in SCTMG are sticky
>>98757818>>98757997Hell its so damn common we've seen that story since before the time of the Greeks. It's just a storytelling trope.
>>98762285See >>98763083 I missed it too on my read of the rulebook and played with it in place yesterday and had a great game.
So im already doing 3 armies, one of each faction with the founding starters. However I really like stukov, do you think that would qualify as a 4th army as it would probably replace lings with infested marines?
>>98763697My hope is someday Archon releases enough Infested units (Marines, Colonists, Aberrations, Volatile Infested etc) that we can play an All Infested army led by Stukov. Would be pure sex.
Can you mix and match the leg sets on the queen and still remain level with the flat parts?
>>98763808Yes.
>>98762285You avoided the biggest mistake by no one playing terran. I'm expecting the raven to be pretty game changing and able to charge deny with turret placement or something, that's the only way terran being as bad as they are right now makes sense.
>>98764235NTA but at my club, win rate between me and buddy (I am Zerg) is two Zerg, 3 Terran and 1 Draw. Terran ain't that bad, they're the weakest faction so far, but Siege Tank is fixing that. Point Defence Drone be busted fr fr
>>98763813Thanks, I wasn't sure which one I wanted so assembled all of them and forgot which was which.
>>98764572Is Zerg without Kerrigan viable?
>>98764809I've not brought her in any game so I'd say yeah. Never felt undeepowered. Vile Roaches and Hydralisks are fun as Hell to play
>>98764826>Vile Roaches and HydralisksViles and 2 Hydras are how I begin almost every list
>>98766277>2 hydraswhy not 4?
>>98766316We only play 1000 point games around here since buddies haven't got enough for 2000 yet and 2 Hydras with everything upgrade except Burrow Ambush is quite expensive already. 4 is great fun but very hard to justify imo at 1000.Although once I brought 4 of them fully upgrade and they ate to squads of 2 Marauders and a Goliath like it was nothing lol
>>98766337Why no Burrow Ambush?
>>98766361Overlord Card more useful for them
>>98766337I was just thinking about buying another box of hydras to bring 8 to my 2000pt games, hydras are just the face of the Zerg since SC1
I hate the design of the Ravager (it's the most generic looking "video game monster" design ever made), but I'm loving how it changes up the Zerg playstyle. Bloated Bile Ducts and Potent Bile are an auto-include for them imo, however, so they're a good bit more expensive than their list price
>>98766517the aberration is even worse though
>>98766523I like the Aberration fuck you>>98766517The most generic Zerg unit has always been Ravager. It doesn't even fit with the aesthetic of the rest of the faction. Bought but not played them yet. Bloated Bile Ducts seem overpriced since they only increased your hit range by one inch
>>98766531>It doesn't even fit with the aesthetic of the rest of the faction.It always looks Primal to me, and that's a whole faction of generic-looking "video game monsters".
>>98766531>Bloated Bile Ducts seem overpriced since they only increased your hit range by one inch2 inches + blast marker size is bigger than you think
>>98767111HOLY TRIPThe Ravager truly must be an amazing unit
>>98766523Aberration is fucking KINO KYS
If I upgrade my Terrans with the AGG-12 Upgrade, does every member in the squad replace their C-14s with them or just one model?
>>98769376Just one model, that's what the Specialist keyword is for, only one model can have that weapon per squad.
>>98769392>that's what the Specialist keyword is for,I somehow missed that every single time I looked at those upgrades...
>>98769796No worries anon, it'll be on your unit card in the upgrades section.
Chances of Archon releasing the more niche or obscure faction units, like the Nerazim Centurion and Annihilator? Trying to build Zeratul's Warband from Brood War and SC2 but not sure if I should build up my Zealots and Immortal and just paint them as Dark Templar (purples/blues for armour and green energy) or hold off and see if we eventually get them as actual units with custom models.
>>98766523They hated him because he told them the truth
>>98770431I'd say likely, but definitely not any time soon. Those are perfect units to pad out future waves when the obvious unit choices begin to dry up, so paint your Protoss now however you want, you've likely years to wait.Also, your plan is wrong. Zeratul's Warband wasn't all Nerazim. Even all the way back in the mission Dark Origin, which is arguably when the player first gains control of Zeratul and his boys on their hunt for answers, his advisor is a High Templar and he starts the mission with Khalai Dragoons. Even in SC2, he leads a force of Nerazim and Khalai, able to build an army of Zealots, Stalkers, Dark Templar, Immortals and so on.So painting up the current Protoss range in the colours they are meant to be (Zealots as Khalai and Stalkers as Nerazim for example) and taking Zeratul as your hero unit would be a 100% acceptable and fluffly way of playing Zery and his followers.
All marines done now medics too.All thats left is Radnor and marauders.
>>98773093Love the yellow window of that Goliath, great colour choice
>>98772908Thank Christ for autism, God damn
>>98762285How are the Protoss? Very curious about them
>>98763112We're talking about two mainline story beats from the same developer/creator though.
>>98774006Very tanky and super mobile. Also the impact hits felt petty stong in a small game.
>>98774006NTA but very hard to play right, however if you do they are insanely rewarding. Unmatched mobility, tanky as fuck and able to react to almost anything the enemy can throw at them. Insanely cool army to play.
>>98773093Raynor n marauders done.Botched his helmet a lil but I am happy with the end result as I just paint to tabletop quality. Next is building n painting all my protoss.
>>98775763I would just dab your brush in ipa and strip the paint off the helmet cause that shit looks like ass dude. Ain't nothing wrong with leaving the helmet unpainted if you can't do it right bro, just put a wash or something on it and call it a day
Why would they make a StarCraft table top game before Warcraft? Anyways which faction has the bigger future? I have no ties with StarCraft so everything looks weird to me desu.
>>98777338The concept of Warcraft as a strategy game died like 20 years ago.
>>98777338They've hinted (all but confirmed) that they're going to make a Warcraft game like Starcraft eventually. Would will be kino tbhondesu
Zeratul is pretty powerful, you can only really target him if you're within 4 inches since there's very little detection in the game currently and no one seems to bother with it right now. Honestly, he just seems straight up better than Artanis, although if he does get attacked he'll die fairly quickly. Only 5 wounds and Evade 5/4 doesn't go very far.
>>98777368>>98777338GIVE ME PLASTIC NIGHT ELVES ARCHON AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!!!
Which army is harder to get into Protoss or Terrans?
>>98778088Terrans. Protoss are so insanely expensive you can get a 1000 point list with 13 models.x3 Zealotsx3 Zealotsx4 Adeptsx1 ImmortalSprinkle in some upgradesYou've a 1000pt list
>>98778119oh and x2 Sentries
I'm buying this shit and playing both the rts games just for the Protoss adepts. Sex with cute protoss adept.
>>98778088>>98778119>>98778120Witness
>>98778121If I had to choose a Starcraft character to have sex with, I'd choose Valerian in a heartbeat
>>98777368It would be hard not to make it WoW/HoTS miniatures game.Considering how lethal SC already one can imagine what Pyroblast would be in Warcraft.
>>98778334>>98777368>>98777338I would have missionary position, tongue kissing, eyes open sex with the fattest, greasiest, smelliest Argentinian hog-foid if it meant we get a Warcraft game with rules and models as good as Starcraft
>>98778449
If they made a Warcraft game, what would the factions be? Alliance and Horde, or would they go more in-depths? Alliance, Horde, Scourge, Burning Legion and Night Elves as playable factions on the tabletop, for example.
>>98779050IMO Horde Alliance, Scourge, Burning Legion with racial subfaction (although i would like also see non-playable factions also being included, like Scarlets or Dark Horde)
>>98779050Start with Horde and Alliance, Scourge (or Burning Legion) and Night elves released around 3 to 4 years after Wave 1
>>98779050It'd be awesome to see the WC3 races and heroes, but it would be even better to see all of the neutral mobs and stuff.
>>98777338Starcraft was always the bigger game than Warcraft (now WoW, Warcraft), and besides that the mass military combat just works better for Starcraft than Warcraft, which was more about herohammer with the unit cap at 100.
>>98777338Starcraft is simply better and more kino in every way.
>>98692752>TQZerg - RavasaurProtoss - SentinelTerran - Reapers
>>98775763Everything else is fine but the fake skull mask is actually dogshit, at least from this angle. Get rid of it.
To those who have built/painted their protoss army:How much sub assembly did the army require?Ive built stalkers and im building my extra box of adepts before i build my founders box and it seems to me that a small amount of sub asssembly painting is required. Mostly adept backpacks and stalker shields, but not clue about the rest of the range.
>>98780095Christ I'm amazed how many of you bitches want primal zerg and reapers
>>98777368With WoW Forever, the new Warcraft 3 campaign and the promise of new, future Warcraft releases by Blizzard, Archon would be stupid not to do something. Just leaving money on the table
>>98727582Negative, hes a ghost. Similar to other portrait only units, hes available in the standard editor, but exists when you use StarForge or any other enhanced editor.
>>98780123Sub assembled my Adepts, Stalkers and Immortal. Adept backpacks and cannons, Stalker arm-shield-thing and Immortal left the arms off until everything was fully painted
>>98780095>RavasaurNiche but based choice, not bad not bad
>>98778127Nta but that looks like a hella fun list
>>98782253Building the adepts and its the complete opposite of the terrans, already hating it, especially when im building 2 squads of adepts.Also im still debating whether to try and keep the clear parts as is or paint over but if I paint over im also gonna have to do the adepts holograms and the pylon to keep the army uniform.
>>98783220the hologram and pylon at least take to drybrushing very well since they're all hard angles
>>98783220>Also im still debating whether to try and keep the clear parts as is or paint overI'm painting my Adepts up as Purifiers so I've at least not got this to worry abput
>>98778449Patriot
2nd game with an Immortal on 1k and he rapes, Artanis beheads kerrigan, Khalai like always is pretty bonkers on double activation. Next week gonna play a 2k game against terrans
>>98785069He's probably fairer at 2k, which seems to be the vibe alot of the stuff in the game's design has currently. Which is the only real drawback I see in the game so far- that people are buying the starter sets to try out the game, and if they get their asses run over by some of the more whack abilities there they might not bother trying the game as it was intended to be played.
>>98785265from what ive also noticed marines are super hard to play at that size as 36x36 means a lot of shit is at you turn 2 and if you greed the supply and movement you might have to be shooting with less than planned after impacts with evades on top. Lowk expecting nerfs to protoss soon, even if I'm excited for Tassadar
>>98785265>>98785301Also people need to learn at the lgs and stop running their units to center when there are buff speed (2) zealots with leg enhancement closeby because that's just asking for getting charged at that map size
>>98785301Nigga's not playing Raynor's Raiders with Dropship and Proxy Barracks. What a retard!
>>98785801for some reason people dismiss the fucking drone and I don't wanna be rude when 2 other people are playing with backseating and then they get cornered and die
>>98785801RR doesn't really seem like the faction to run at 1k- Armed Forces seems to matter more because you REALLY want to hit first in the first assault phase and get your damage in, so going first when you need it seems essential.
>>98785801>>98785810Raynors RaidersProxy Barracks DropshipPoint Defence Drone MedicsThis is the best way to play Terrans
Just realised the Point Defence Drone is re-deployed every turn. I've been playing it as a deploy once per game unit. Holy shit, that's a game changer.
>>98785810Drone is pretty much useless in tvz tho- hence why a lot of people don't make much of it since the games most people play are the two halves of the starter set more than likely.
So next wave are going to be new heroes?Alarak for ProtossNova for TerranZagara/Abba for Zergs
I dunno if I wanna make artanis pre or post zerstul death.Post death with his wrist blade is cooler but I own promo zeratul
>>98789951We know what we're getting in Wave 3.Tassadar and High TemplarNova and RavenZagara and Defiler
>>98790078I wonder if zagara's faction will reduce supply for a unit of max size zerg considering all her gameplay styles in coop commander n hots are horde of zerg based.Maybe give a unit of zergling the explode on death rule considering banelings dont have models
>>98790148She'll likely have a load of Respawn abilities on her faction card
>>98790148imo her special zergling will be effectively -1 supply compared to vanilla max stack. Probably more healing and rez compared to normal queens
>>98789390Blocking two dice from a Hydra shot is still pretty good tho.
