Primarisissies... how do we respond?These absolutely MOG my Primaris Intercessors and Incursors ;_;
>>98694275Anon you need a better fucking hobby.
can't believe they released a new tac squad before the ban on the previous one even came into force
Man GW dropped the ball so fucking hard on these guys. Absolutely abhorrent interpretation of them. Only good thing is that they aren't Primaris.
>>98694355This, why are they on fire?
>>98694446GW offices don't have air conditioning
>shitty looking sculpted flames instead of selling transfers to put flame designs on the armourlame, the fire is going to look like random shit jutting out of the models when 99% of painters attempt to paint it.
>>98694275are these just intercessors?
>>98694446>why are they on fireI dunno maybe because they're the legion of the damned, chud? You wanted firstborn back so here's an entire army of muh heckin' marvel Ghostrider. Finally, a third reason to buy outriders besides ravenwing and white scars!
>>98694275Also, expect this to be the beginning of a new direction for the lore unfathomable depths beyond the retardation you were already expecting. It's already basically canon that the leader of the legion of the damned is the headless ghost of fucking Ferrus Manus. Mary Sue marines? How about marines that can't die because they died already.
They don't seem very boney.
>>98694275
>>98694275the boltguns look like boltguns!the bolt pistols look like boltpistols!
>>98694505>It's already basically canon that the leader of the legion of the damned is the headless ghost of fucking Ferrus ManusThat's retarded memelore made up by fanboys with bad reading comprehension. It's not canon.The LoTD were the Firehawks chapter from late M41, they have nothing to do with Ferrus from M30
>>98694275First time I've considered buying a GW kit in almost a decade. These look fucking cool.
The flaming banner and some of the other parts are cool but it looks retarded on the armor.
I actually considered giving primaris a chance after all these years but GW decided to remind me what could have been...
Who would win: 10 ancient undead super soldiers armored in unobtanium and carrying the finest small arms available to any standing army, OR 5 fungal retards who were born yesterday and have armed themselves with scrap?
>>98694480How would you even paint the flames without them looking like something a.preschooler did? Seems like you'd almost need an airbrush.
>>98694496Original Legion of the Damned just painted flames on their armour, being literally on fire is nulore.
>>98695008My money is on the fungal retards, but I like orks.
>>98695008There's actually 3 gits and another 10 boyz, all kill team boxes have fluff NPOs like that now with the boyz filling out the box and bumping the price.
>>98694275True Scale Marines Malevolent already mogged prim*ris several months ago.
>>98695156Shut up, fake grog. They're been on flames forever
>>98694275The mk7s look so much better than Primadonnies its unreal
>>98695008Those are ork Nobz, do you know what a Nob is, you tourist retard?
>>98694275Finally a set with only kino helmets
>>98695215Even the new intercessors come with seveal Mk7 faceplates. It instantly makes them look better
>>98695132Paint all the flames titanium white, then paint all but the very base of the flame with thinned Imperial Fist, then paint the top 3/4 with thinned Magmadroth Flame, then paint the top half with thinned Baal Red, then paint the top 1/4 with thinned Fleshtearers Red, then paint the very tip of the flame black.A lot of legit complaints with this set, but Youtube tutorials have turned flame effects into a solved equation.
>>98695255Thanks for an actual reply. Never painted flames, but I might give it a shot. Worst case, you can just strip them and start over.
>>98695156Also, they looked like half dead zombies under the helmets.
>>98695132https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZITt2CavW8
>>98695247>nigger raven guard It's so tiresome...
>>98695213And by "forever" you mean "for a small and recent portion of the time they've existed, the rest of which they were rotting revenants wearing black armour with flames painted on". Seems like the only fake grog around here is you, pooftoid.
>>98695964They were only so in RT/2e, fake grog
>>98694798The snozzberries taste like snozzberries!
>>98695367The cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable is equal opportunity; there is no discrimination in the future, chud.
>>98694275I really hope the kit has an option for that head with the broken helmet showing the skull underneath it, really loved that guy from the 5th edition kit.
>>98694275I came.
>>98696758All are equal in service of the Emperor.That said, black Space Wolves and Alpha Legion is retarded. Space Wolves only recruit from one planet who are all Scandinavian, and the whole point of the Alpha Legion is that they're indistinguishable from each other."I IZ ALF-ARE-EZUS AN SHEET!" No you ain't Everyone can see you ain't.
>>98694275>once again mogged by 3D prints
>>98695213Yeah posting a picture from decades later isn't going to gaslight me into thinking the pic from 2nd ed wasn't real.You're allowed to like nulore, just don't pretend it's not a retcon.>>98695302Yeah, they were dying and decorated their armour with symbols of death to reflect their grim fatalism from being "dead men walking".Either is a cool concept for yourdudes.
>>98694728lyn would not give a damn
>>98694728>picatinny railsI guess Cawl can even reach into the warp to fuck up firstborn bolters lel
>>98697124Ragnar vists a nigger island on Fenris as a teenager in Kings's first space wolf novel (published 1999), larper
>>98695247>using the tried and true iconic aesthetics that you've cultivated for decades looks goodOdd it took GW so long to figure this out.
>>98697124>the whole point of the Alpha Legion is that they're indistinguishable from each otherOnly during the Horus Heresy. In the Harrowmaster novel there's a meeting of multiple different AL warbands and each is a different depiction of Alpha Legion. There's a warband that still looks the same as Alpharius, so they do exist but they're minority by the 41st or 42nd millenium. Heck, there's even a warband thinking they're still loyal to the Emperor and everything they do is for the Imperium. It's actually interesting how some nulore (like the fact that every AL looks alike) is accepted by the general and some isn't.
>>98697544It's kind of cool that they're painted to look like spines, though.
>>98695156This. Making them actually on fire confirms they are Imperial Daemons as opposed to a collection of survivors roaming the galaxy in search of desperate Imperials that they can save.40k used to allow much more personal interpretations. You could put whatever spin you wanted on events, and were just given a loose setting that was intentionally always written from the biased perspective of in-setting characters that were always missing some of the information.Previously you had 3 main options for Legion of the Damned:Space Marines from thousands of years ago who were lost in the warp. Believed to be Firehawks, a cursed chapter, the change in colours implied that they had been through some horrors. Whether in the warp, or when vomited out of it potentially in the distant past or future before yet again being spat out in the present; their new aesthetic made us wonder what they had been through. This seemed the most likely, they weren't daemons, they were real flesh and blood marines that were extremely unlucky when it came to warp travel, though it often led to them saving Imperials who were otherwise doomed.Then you had them being Imperial Daemons that are summoned by faith, which I guess is confirmed. Kind of ruins the Firehawks lore.Finally there was the idea that theyre a decimated chapter limping through the galaxy without active communications and appearing by chance in random areas where they would do their utmost to help any Imperials they encountered. Their silence and disappearance after conflicts could be speculated as being due to them either being renegades that are truly loyal but who officially are seen as enemies of the Imperium, and so they just leave before they can be sanctioned; or potentially even suffering from a plague or some other affliction.They were fun to speculate about. Nu-lore is so gay. It just completely goes against the old principles of creating a sandbox for players. It used to be a lot more like DnD.
>>98694275Those are primaris
>>98697265>5th edition is "nulore" nowfucking fake grog posers
>>98697820There's no "3 options". That's just people not being aware of their lore.Since 5th edition they're firmly stablished to be Firehawks that became "imperial daemons".They're drawn to key battles where imperials are losing, they help them, and then they go back to the warp. And that's it.
>>98697860Yes. Yes it is. I played 3rd edition and everything after that is nulore.I am strong believer in the fact that 3rd edition was the perfect balance of fleshing out the setting enough for it to be coherent and immersive in a way that it wasn't in the previous more satirical and less serious editions; while still maintaining enough mystery and intrigue to make it feel like a superstitious distant future where primarchs were regarded as semi-mythological figures of history like Hercules or Gilgamesh, and where we were playing in a new-dark-age, which perfectly fit the grim dark dystopia that the setting was supposed to be. Ever after 3rd edition they've gone too far with the fleshing out, and now rather than being brainwashed super-soldiers and unknowable legends from 10000 years ago; now the Space Marines are a bunch of retarded children and the Primarchs are a bunch of whiney man-children with daddy issues.
>>98697860I also started in 3rd and follow the honored tradition of everything before my starting point being outdated, and everything after being new drivel.
>>98697820You could still say that they are flesh and blood marines with anything from holograms to warp fuckery providing the flames, if you wanted to. But I agree that the trend of explaining everything instead of leaving some doors closed makes the world less interesting.>>98697886That IS the new lore retard. How many times do you need to be told.
>>98698112There's nothing "new" about lore from 20 years ago, you sperg.It's the same story with the "oldCrons" retarded fake nostalgia that nobody ever cared about outside a few online wannabe hipters. No real Necron player/collector ever wished to turn the clock back to 3rd.
40k Classic/The Scouring: The Game w/ refreshed Mk7's is all but inevitable.
>>98696758I actually encountered one of the people who love this shit in the wild last year. A new local club was trying to get started and purported to have some decent terrain so I went to check it out, was playing a couple of games of 4th edition 40K with a mate there and this absolute fucking creature of a "man" comes over - literally a parody stereotype; short, fat, balding, granny specs, whispy fail-beard, metal-styled not actually a band but referencing some trashy TV show tee, the whole nine - and just bluntly butts in and asks us to our face why there aren't any black people in our armies, are we racist or something? I honestly didn't know how to respond, I started to laugh thinking it was a joke but the guy literally went puce with rage and stormed off muttering so I'm pretty sure he was sincere. Fucking mental.
>>98697124The funniest one for me is Necroniggas. It took less than 10,000 years for the brown swarthoids who emigrated to Northern Europe to evolve away what were at that point pointlessly high levels of melanin and become pale as fuck, and the context for that is just "long winters", but these dumb fucks are insisting there are sustainable genetic populations of legit fatty-lipped coal-black giganiggas living in the depths of a sunless artificially-lit hellcity on a world shrouded in perpetual twilight because of industrial smog? Fuck. Right. Off.
>>98697228>primarishart>Ghost Rider skull>moggedI can see how you would prefer it, given it's almost as flaming as you are, you fucking queer.
>>98696140I always wonder why retards like you keep on with these larps, there are pictures in this very fucking thread that disprove you.
>>98698208what pictures, retard? Can't you tell apart 2e and 3e+ minis and lore?
>>98698127Again, I'm not saying it's wrong to like the new lore, but LotD were originally something other than what was presented in 5th. So claiming that is the "actually they've always been" is as valid as female custodes, black Fenrisians, Necrons with feelings, etc. Paint and play with whatever toy soldiers you like, but if you claim the retcon look is what they've always been you will be told that it's wrong.
>>98698219Wrong. There was no real retcon, the LotD just slowly turned into warp beings both in the lore and IRL. Their previous lore wasn't removed, just contextualized. Comparing that to femstodes or black SW is just disingenous.
>>98697886As someone who remembers the LOTD being released, yes, what you are spouting IS nulore. Backed by >>98695213 being a bit of digital art for nu40k.
>>98698251>5th edition is nulore, reeeeeShut up, senile retard
>>98698297Nigga, what you are describing is 8th and on nulore, 5th still had it up in the air as to what they were and had no mention of them being on fire.You. Fucking. Spastic.
>>98698306Wrong, in 5th their origins were established along appearing to be in flames.The digital codex cover above is from 6th. In 8th they became Legends.You're just another ignorant and uppity middlehammer retard that has no idea about what's talking about, as usual.
>>98697913>previous more satiricalyouve played nothing, you will also never be a woman
>>98698179What will happen before?Great Crusade; The Game when they release plastic Primarchs so they can high diff the ocasional orc player?Or Scouring/Historical 40k to play post heresy/ Badab War?
>>98698360>Great Crusade; The Game when they release plastic Primarchs so they can high diff the ocasional orc player?Orks will be the Knight equivalent of that setting under The Beast
>>98694275> how do we respondWith Blackjack! And hookers!
>>98694275Classic bolter looks so fucking SOVLFVL without that stupid fucking spinny drum that serves no function.
>>98698232>My revised lore is organically grown and genuine, that other revised lore you compare it to is artificial retcon. Disingenuous!All the examples are equally part of the current canon, and represented in the currently marketed products. They also all weren't fucking present in the first 20 years of the game. Making your point 1) canon and 2) not since forever.
>>98695964They were released in 98, pretty sure they were referenced as spooky skeletons in 4th eds codex but I dont have that on hand, anyway they were definitely confirmed as being flaming spector marines in the deathwatch rpg, thats 2010, 12 years after release and 16 years from right now. This means that no they have not been portrayed this way.>for a small and recent portion of the time they've existed.They have been treated the way they are now for at the very least more than half their existence.
>>98698181Sucking up the dei suppository is the millennial equivalent of boomers believing everything they see on television. It's possible to consider historical disparities and their causes with nuance, but that's not how universities brainwashed generations from the 90s to today. The demand for immediate parity or compensation is a product of complete resistance to compromise fostered by neurotic professors in academia whose highest offense isn't ignorance, but exposing a mistake made by them. Complete egotists.
>>98694275Cringercessors absolutely DESTROYEDThis KILLS the primaristroon
>>98698297Not him but 5th ed is absolutely nulore lol, that's when all the OG writers were gone and replaced by the nuwriters, it is the definitive objectively true point of where nulore took over.
>>98694275How do these guys even work, wouldn't they just set fire or steal all the oxygen to whatever ship that's transporting them?
>>98699899That's almost 20 years ago. Hardly 'nu' anything.
>>98699933>That's almost 20 years agoDoesn't mean shit, it's still nu compared to the original writing.
>>98699915>whatever ship that's transporting themHoly retarded newfag, they are fucking warp ghosts that appear out of thin air like daemons
>>98699962Sorry that airbrushed Ghost Rider boomer shirt decal marines doesn't appeal to me.
>>98699933Did we stop calling it numetal because its older than whatever came out this year? Its a stylistic term for designs and historical context.
>>98699955>the original writingis memelore and cope that doesn't mean shitMost factions were redesigned between the early RT release and 5th, so the changes in 5th were more of the same.>>98700015There were only incremental changes between 3rd and 7th, calling "nu" the edition in the middle is nostalgiafaggotry nonsense.And let's not forget that 3rd was the edition that simplified and streamlined the game to death in the first place.
>>98700035>Most factions were redesigned between the early RT release and 5thYeah, by the same writers who created them originally and just iterated/expanded on that and made some slight changes to the silliest early stuff that no longer fit.The changes made by nuwriters were massive overhauls that were completely different, and not knowing this is you exposing yourself as a clueless newfag without even realizing it.
>>98699980That's okay anon, we're sorry your taste transplant came from a 41%er.
>>98698325>Wrong, in 5th >The digital codex cover above is from 6thThankyou for discrediting yourself in one go
>>98700035>There were only incremental changes between 3rd and 7th,That you can't even get the editions or the change distinctions correct is telling enough you're incredibly ignorant, largely focused on broad sweeping generalization and don't have anything interesting to say. Have fun.
Answer me this, lore nerds, if they're the LEGION of the Damned, then who's their primarch?
>>98700184Ferrus manus is an often proposed theory, granted the evidence is pretty weak.
>>98694275These are all Primaris LOTD retard
>>98700201No, they're Truescale Firstborn. The Primaris models are only the height that Firstborn were in the lore, they're actually shorter than Primaris in lore, because that lore of them being taller was only created post-facto when GW decided to sell both model lines side by side.
>>9869782040k didn't allow for more personal interpretations, you just didn't fucking read the lore and lack basic comprehension skills anyway to understand what it is you read. Retard.
>>98698510They weren't released in '98 you retard, someone already posted the 2nd ed codex. 2010 was the literal dying days of GW and nothing after the mid '10s is canon in any way, so yes, the anon was correct and you're a fucking faggot, go eat your slop piggy
>>98700639Wrong. The 2nd ed minis weren't released until '98 along an army list, meanwhile they were just a single squad option in the UM codex.And the rest of your whining and moping deserves nothing but mockery, fake grog.
>>98694275>primaris FlamerI'm tired boss.
>>98700201No they are not you fucking monkey as that is literally impossible, they are just increasing the scale as that is all they ever should have done to begin with
>>98700672WRONG you fucking imbecile, LotD minis were first released in 2nd edition, the first one being the veteran sergeant who was given away in store on one particular Saturday, but you don't know that because your're a fucking faggot pretending to know what you are talking about.
>>98700718lmao, you had to look into Lexicanum to learn about that single (1) character that was just an optional leader for their single (1) squad which had no minis until 1998.You're still wrong and retarded, 3rd e faggot
>>98700672They're an option in Codex Ultramarines in '94 you spastic someone already posted it, the fuck are you even talking about? '98 was the release of 3rd edition and the first dedicated mini was Sergeant Centurius in '96 for the 100th store opening and he was, as has been pointed out, a cadaverous marine not a burning demon, you clearly know fuck all.
>>98697913> I played in the OG SHRIMPLIFIED edition> AND IM PROUD OF IT!!!!kill yourself faggot
>>98694275Give it the tranny trooner treatment!
>>98700816>3rd edition>simplifiedDude. That edition with all the minor books and the errata that were published in chapter approved via white dwarf that you were supposed to photocopy and glue into the books, the new experimental rules that you were supposed to give feedback back to Andy Chambers and the design team was actually one of the catalysts for the whole effort to streamline the game from 4th ed onwards - after he left. The game stagnated for a little and then got bloated, like a sinking ship with so many patches it got too heavy to float. The only thing 3rd really simplified was vehicles, because that was just a clusterfuck.You got the timeline wrong on top of being rude for no reason.
>>98697596Yes the novel space wolf: wakandaMay we see these black people anon?
>>98700958>no GSClol that's the one that works
>>98700639All the early 00's and mid 10's where the dying days, the cancer just started in whfb and took a long time to spread
>>98701098>3rd edtion larper doesn't know that 2nd was more complex and granular than 3rd-7th ever wasevery time
>>98701430complex and granular is certainly a way to describe it. Or just not a very good game. 3rd edition pulled the RPG element together and made it a wargame. Comparing 2nd edtion to any of the later editions is comparing ...well to completely different things. Doesn't even merit entertaining. So go fuck yourself you smug bastard, I'm going to bed now. Night, night.
>>98701447>2nd wasn't a very good game>but 3rd wasNeither was technically great, but there's a reason people still collect and play 2nd while midhammer fags can't agree on the color of shit.
>>98701461Yeah, because 2nd edition minis were dope and the colors punchy.Say what you want, but these days it's kind of depressing how everything is trying to be serious and edgy and all the minis and tables just look brown and dirty. Bright minis fighting on a bright green meadow between jungle trees were dope.
>>98701479It was more than that, the 2nd gameplay was engaging and fun in a way that was lost later. You also needed way smaller army sizes. At the time I didn't appreciate the level of detail and the randomness, but it's hilarious that midhammer fags pretend their favourite 3-7th era didn't start with an extreme dumbing down of the game, along with bigger army sizes out of greed.
>>98694275>Primarisissies... how do we respond?All we can do is pretend they don't exist and don't respond to the manlets that mention those Legion of the Damned.We can't say they're manlets. We can't say their scales are goofy. We can't really say anything. We can only suffer in silence.But in all seriousness it is nice that these are coming back. Hopefully they'll be good "scale and proportion" reference for STL makers.
>>987015012nd was still a game that friends played for fun with each other, you made your own units, armies, heroes, the aim was to have fun and not compete, those days are gone and just like safe homogenous nations will never return
>>98694275These look exactly like all other modern marines except they're on fire (slightly) and have cool bone aquilas
>>98700958It's a bit shocking to me how many transgender (ugly guys claiming to be women) there are in the hobby.
>>98700201it is actually so unbelievably over for primarishit
Legion of the Damned Kill Team but they're all Consuls from HH
>>98698181>I started to laugh thinking it was a jokeDude exists only to peer pressure people into buying extra paint pots for something as asinine as skin color. No wonder GW loves these trogs.
>>98694275What the fuck did you just fucking say about my primaris interlocutors, you little shit?Have you any idea about how much of my self-worth is bound up in winning a miniature console war?
>>98702460obsession + artistryIf you've ever worked for something you wanted, attained it, and enjoyed it, you eventually reach a point where the novelty wears off and even the accomplishment is unsatisfying. The contentment wears off and the next pursuit begins, because eventually getting what you want will make you happy.That is their curse; nothing satisfies. They endlessly chase higher highs just to feel the same satisfaction they knew before. It all leads to mutilation when they can't feel anything anymore
>>98700958>trans plague marineA rare instance of trans self awareness.
>>98694275Except for the little winged skelly man on the shin and battle standard they still look like a downgrade. Someone please tell James that flames don't have sharp edges.
Any idea when the set is going to be released? Cant wait to be able to waste my money on this.
>>98702596It's crazy, they are real life Slaanesh cultists
>>98694275IT MAKES ME SO FUCKING MAD>When GW makes good looking minis and I want to buy them but like 80 dollars brah.
>>98702969Yeah I'd like to know too. I just bought the Exodite set after not having bought any minis in 15 years.I got my first white dwarf and minis 32 years ago. Games Workshop knew how to pull my old ass back in with Exodites and Legion of the Damned.
>>98702647As cool as I think the new Legion minis look, this is a clear difference between those modern soft/clean/round looking computer made sculpts vs hand made, gritty, sharper and more detailed sculpts.It was only Forge World that made proper sculpts until Games Workshop decided to fuck them up too.I still want the new ones, but damn the new computer soft minis look, well fucking soft.
>>98702647>>98703105Because the current GW trend is to imitate the plain 2nd ed style intead of the more ornate 4-5th minis.That's also true for most new marine kits since 8th.
>>98703135truesame with new land speederthey are nostalgiabaiting so hard
>>98703135Why do the old ones still look sharper and more sort of "crisp" to the eye than the new ones?There's something off with the models they've made ever since they moved to doing them on computers.Also the kits themselves are fucking dreadful to build. Especially now where you have stuff like a plasma gun, but then 1/4 of the barrel is a separate fucking piece on a different sprue. And the hands of the exodite dinos. Two of their fingers are separate fucking pieces instead of just one piece. It makes zero fucking sense and I actually find the building/hobby aspect insanely annoying. Building and converting used to be my favourite part of the hobby aspect too. It's painfully obvious how fucked up their sprues and parts are after building a couple of Gundam kits too.>>98703138It's working. It got me to start Kill Team after not touching anything mini related for 15 years. I'm even making 2nd edition green cactus with red toothpick terrain for my jungle themed orks vs exodites stuff.
>>98703135They're not super far off from the 5th edition sculpts, the key difference is that the wicked sick flame decals were moved off the armour into sculpted ethereal flames and that's left a whole ton of plain black negative space behind. The 5th ones do have some extra non-flame embellishments here and there like the ribcage pauldron one guy is rocking, but I think if you simply erased the flame print from these they'd look pretty similar.The sergeant's skull helmet is a major downgrade though, the modern obviously artificial angry face doesn't have anywhere near the same impact as an actual proper human skull (and in this case bonus points for making it ambiguous as to whether or not that's actually his bare uncovered head, given the guy with the broken helmet showing his skull underneath it).
>>98703345It wasn't really ambiguos. Chaplains with these same helmets were around at the time.
>>98703345Left handed marines looks so fucking weird
the concept of "primaris" was a literary reason to explain a decade-long pipeline of slowly upscaling marines. Now that the range is mostly redesigned we are going to see the idea of "primaris" kind of disappear.in retrospect, it was just GW giving lore reasons to explain why your models had two different scales despite both being space marines. They didn't want to break immersion.Going forward it will be implies that new scale marines are primaris, but it probably isn't going to be listed and over time people will forget it ever happened to begin with.
>>98703510Best Chaplain mini of all time
>>98703540>it was just GW giving lore reasons to explain why your models had two different scales despite both being space marines.Probably more to do with the fact they were also restructuring the basic Space Marine army with a load of new specialised units. If it were just 'here is the new Tactical Squad, they're 5mm taller' or whatever, there wouldn't be any need for some fluff to explain why they're 5mm taller. But that wasn't how they approached it, instead it was>These are Intercessors, which are like Tac Marines but not. And these are Infiltrators and Reivers, which are like Scouts but not. And these are Suppressors, etc.>and you should buy all of these new models instead of just using your existing ones, because they're totally not the same thing.
>>98703540Should just have done a hard "they're now true scale" instead of all that other shite.And made the new primaris helmet just a variant you'd get a couple of on a sprue to mix it up.
>>98697913There is this weird survivors bias where the only retards still playing are the ones who think different. You can see it in the replies, but you speak the truth anon.
>>98703540>the concept of "primaris" was a literary reason to explain a decade-long pipeline of slowly upscaling marineslmao no it wasn't. The first and main priority of Primaris was to hard reset the marine range so they could resell an entire army to marinefags. The upscaling was just meant to sweeten the deal and make it harder for veterans to just substitute their old models as intercessors and ingressors and masturbatessors or whatever the fuck new Primaris line they came up with. The lore and immersion, as always, was a tertiary concern at best.
>>98704257NahMarines were getting new units casually without Primaris evenPrimaris didn't force marinefags to update, not back then, not even now since you can still play with Firstborn
>>98704272>thinks gw is casually instead of profit focused >still pushes the boiled frog bit about firstborn can't tell if retarded or gw marketer or both
>kills off firstborn>brings them back as literal ghosts
>>98698181kekWhenever you think being an NPC is just a 4chan meme and there's no way these people ACTUALLY exist and then you meet an actual fat bald redditor who probably simps for twitch thots, grooms teens on discord and pretends he's a gigachad who 'used to be a powerlifter'
>>98704272Centurions were never meant to replace anything anon. With the Primaris reboot, GW was able to resell marines direct replacements to every single role in their army.>even now since you can still play with FirstbornThey finally axed tacticals with the new edition. The great replacement is complete.
>>98697228>mogged>primarisLol
>>98701114Originally they were just supposed to be tanned people living in the planet's tiny tropical belt but that got retconned and now 50% of space wolves are black.
>>98698200necromunda wouldn't be believable as a setting if there were no black criminals.
>>98694275>Have one fucking job and that is upscale the legion of the damned with all their proper detailing >somehow, they still dont get it rightDon't get me wrong, they look fine, but some of the poses reminds me of Primaris, which is probably foreshadowing for nu-firstborn coming back eventually The flames don't fit really, it was painted on armor back then, and the lack of bone details or that one guy with this cracked open helmet and a skull underneath kinda makes it less cool than it could have beenIm not fully convinced on them, despite their really good look
>>98695367He's in blackface to remain stealthy, retard.
>>98704410>accurate representation matters! >except when it doesn't Not enough mexicans I guess.
>>98704543Some mexicans can also be black, like lupita nyong'o
>>98695008An ork Nob is capable of ripping a fully armored space marine limb from limb with his bare hands and a Power Klaw is no less effective than a Power Fist. It's like you fags forget that Humanity and the Imperium is losing and has been in decline since the DAOT. Even the HHslop and Great Crusade in 30k is still humanity in decline compared to their golden age, which literally happened before the Emperor even revealed himself to humanity and took the throne. Humanity's golden age was like 20,000 years ago. They've been in decline ever since. All the augmentations and fancy expensive toys given to space marines is merely to put them on a level playing field with the horrors of the galaxy at large including Orks and Tyranids who outnumber them a trillion to one.
>>98704594But then the ratio in the can is all off and there are way more white people in that can. Which I thought we were trying to get away from, over representing white people?
>>98704495>but some of the poses reminds me of PrimarisProbably because upscaled Firstborn and Primaris have basically the same proportions and there are only so many ways you can sculpt a Space Marine.
>>98704257The silliest thing is that Marinefags would probably have bought their entire army all over again if you replaced the Primaris release wave with truescaled versions of existing kits, they didn't need some half-arsed shitty nulore excuse for it.
>>98704495>>98704871Its because the lotd, primaris and the new HH era armour kits are all standing upright instead of power squatting.
>>98702460Dudes with autism.
>>98702460Autistic guys with an absent dad. They didn't have a positive male role model, so it's easier for them to pretend to be a woman.
>>98697820they materialize from the fucking warp onto random battlefields, they dont have ships, in what delusion were you told they were just a random roaming chapter?
not enough skulls and bones on the armour. and you just know there's not enough cool weapon options in the box to convert some HQ options. the sculpted flames are shit too, sculted flame decals on their armour or flame transfers would be the superior option. i dont hate the concept of sculpted flames but the problem is they have tried to rip off what the stl merchants have already created for years eg. >>98697228 but gw was too cowardly to commit to it properly so they stuck a couple of little whisps of fire on and called it a day. as usual it's just completely mediocre and disappointing, the calling card of modern james workstein. imagine how underwhelming the modern grey knights will be.
>>98694341Yea, lol it doesn't make any sense, like they're going to ban the unit but the release one last squad? So what, they can remove these from the next codex too? GW's is fucking the fans over with no lube.
>>98702460Why, Autistic Men Love Warhammer?
>>98705523>it doesn't make any sense,>remove old thing that weren't selling >release new version of old thing people will want to buy with special limited time set Not a complicated strat.
>>98700196How come Ferrus Manus gets two legions? I'm sure the Iron Hands are confirmed to be his.Now if they were the Chapter of the damned I wouldn't be asking this silly question.
>>98694275This unironically looks like someone's really decent kitbash of a more toned down LotD. That being said, these aren't worth $80 and I can definitely find a 3rd party site that has far better looking ones for way cheaper
>>98703540>They didn't want to break immersion.lol
>>98707387Maybe the iron hands have become such soulless machines that their spirits have left their bodies to become a new legion.
>>98701114Here you go, faggot
>>98701461>>98701479>>98701501This is some oddly specific seethe.
>>98700958>>98702597Extremely accurate as well.
>>98707915REEEEEEEEEEEE CLEARLY HE MEANT DARK AS IN SLIGHTLY TANNEDWILLIAM KING IS A WOKE FAGGOT
>>98713872You could probably ask King what he meant it's not like he's dead
>>98704257The entire excuse for the upscale falls flat when we have a history of marine models getting bigger each new release.Ignore the dates since those are when the fag painted the models, scale of GW models has been all over the place for years.Hell New Chaos and Horus Heresy marines got bigger without needing the primaris excuse
>>98697913>and the Primarchs are a bunch of whiney man-children with daddy issues.This one makes a bit more sense when you realize they're not actual humans in origin, but basically Warp entities who were incarnated in superhuman bodies. How they process their emotions is vastly different from us. Imagine how a man would think and behave if you gave him the soul of Odin or whatever. Dude would be alien to us.
>>98714884Or more accurately they are what Psycho Warriors are. Practically instant adults with most of them not having the time to actuall grow up & mature naturally. Driven by an instinct to lead & conquer. Then forced into compliance to lead armies of copies of themselves calling them father across the galaxy to bring it under heel. That's tons of pressure. Then you combine their individual circumstances that already left them extremely traumatized & bitter.
>>98695132Painting flames is relatively easy. People do it for salamanders all time.
>>98707915Daily reminder that Ben Franklin called europeans "swarthy".
>>98694275>Hey Grogs?>Yeah we actually could have just truescaled Space Marines all along>See?>Yeah, fuck you>That's what you get for supporting us, bitch
>>98695367Not even Salamanders are actually niggers, they're ethnic europeans with charcoal black skin because tge UV protection part of their geneseed fucked up to be always active.
>>98697124>Space Wolves only recruit from one planet who are all ScandinavianNo they aren't, it's an entire planet. It has regions where there's more sunlight and therefore more melanin and regions where there are pasty white folk closer to the poles. It's a fucking planet. The entire equatorial belt is a volcanic island archipelago that would probably feel more polynesian than anything.40k has very explicitly never been meant to have each subfaction represent ONE real world culture. They are all supposed to be weird gonzo fusions of multiple real-world cultures that never interacted to make them feel more exotic. That's why Dark Angels used to have a bunch of Native American influence mixed in with the Arthurian Knights stuff. Space Wolves were meant to be a fusion of ALL barbarian cultures, not just nordic/scandinavian, they were supposed to be saxons and germanic tribes and even pacific islanders.
>>98694492>are these just intercessors?No thats a space marine tactical squad with one heavy and one special weapon.
>>98715071So the average men in South America.
>>98698179Can't wait for the same 5 monoposes that we already got with other marks
>>98705184Not that anon, but they are the remnants of the firehawks. The reason they appear and vanish again is because they are supernaturally deployed by the emperor himself where they are needed, then fade away again. They accomplish this via the imperial tarot. Their master reads the tarot, and they appear where they are needed most. Whether or not the remnants of their fleet are still warp capable is unknown, and how they deploy onto the battlefield is also unknown, but their actions are guided solely by reading the tarot. They are at once living space marines and supernatural entities.
>>98697860"Fake grog" lost all meaning, hasn't it?
>>98716311They're still dead though.
>>98696758Still cant get over how the pajeet IG bitch from sm2 is named major sarrkana
>>98715071Can you keep your cringy cartoon to its containment threads please? Thank you
>>98702596It's like a human going on the path of chaos ending up getting spawn'd.
>>98718118You should make peace with the fact it's never going away. GW fucked up with its ban of fan animations and this is part of the price. Accept it or suffer.
>>98695008Fungal retards armed with scrap who are experts at turning scrap into functional 100 cal miniguns and are as strong as a special boy spehs muhreen 100% natty straight out of the fungus pod
