Bluesky Seethe EditionPrevious: >>98686276>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: How did you deal with an uppity player in your pod that was just so wrong with his play/understanding of rules that it was laughable? Bonus points you didn't embarass him out of leaving the table
>TQI pulled out my phone and showed him the rulings.Which is weird that I have to be the one to do it so many times
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98695104>I pulled out my phoneimpossible for /edhg/
>>98695104This but nowadays he pulls his phone out and shows you Grok telling him he's right. (I've had this happen btw)
>>98695060>>98694906Thrax is my dude (been using him since like 2011 or 12 in commander; I recommended him to the Sauron player) and I just learned this today. [I didnt play until 2010]. very cool>>98694878it is a bit confusing but hes holding a sword and a skull torch, I thought crashing onto the ground in a n action shot but it makes sense that its cropped an he's riding some other phantom zombie beast thingWHOS GETTING READY FOR FNM commander????
>>98695236>WHOS GETTING READY FOR FNM commander????i've been ready ever since wotc announced bracketsprotip: your lgs should be smart enough to allot at least 80mins per round
>>98695116>SOVLFUL grog dev >Get's his public image defined by a low Charisma check roll when he was sent out to damage control for BlizzardSad!
>>98695060Don't use that word, anon. That triggers the melenated anons in this thread.
>>98695236>WHOS GETTING READY FOR FNM commander????Is that a thing? My LGS does draft (thank god) Commander is Saturday and Tuesday
>>98695390>get 12 players>3 rounds>guys you have X time to have a winner or you all lose>best record gets booster packsit's not that complicated
>>98695427Okay turn 1 I cast demonic consultation and thoracle gg ez no re
>>98695500>judge! he didn't pay for the UUB!
>>98695500And you'd win HOW that way, retard?
>>98695519please understand anon he got wrecked on how to set up a commander fnm so he has to say *something retarded* as a response
>>98695390I avoid my LGS and only play with my friends. My LGS edh FNMs include a bunch of reddit types who talk like youtubers, as well as a dad who feeds his 11 year old son Monster and keeps him up playing until past midnight. The kid starts crying if anyone uses interaction or removal against his cards, or if he loses. Never again am I going back to witness or take part in this. Only kitchen table with my bros at my house now. Everyone just has a good time and no one gets butthurt if someone wins or uses removal.
>>98695564Grim. Saturday commander houses those people at my LGS, Tuesday is a much more chill commander crowd.
please help with cuts / additions (from sideboard) for my zedruu deckhttps://moxfield.com/decks/RTSqusbheUOEZ0tP2NE_ygalso jeweled lotus unbanned monday
>>98695781>jewlotus before primetimecmon now
Darksteel Colossus will always be the mightiest creature to me even though he sucks major donkey balls.
Congratulations to Cristi Balanescu for producing far and away the worst and ugliest illustration of Massacre Girl. I hate it.Also is it just me or does MtG use a lot of art from Romanian artists?
>>98695312as the Roach King once said:>you can build a hundred bridges and you'll be called abridge builder>but the moment you suck one dick, you're a dick sucker for all timeparaphrasing him but details
>>98695838>Also is it just me or does MtG use a lot of art from Romanian artists?They're cheap to hire and that massacre girl is a troon.
>>98695781>>98695787I'm for unbanning Jeweled Lotus, but I'd probably unban a dozen cards before it.Zesty Elf is definitely the most egregious one to still be on the list.
>>98695838you dont need to pay the big bucks to 3rd worlders
>>98695781Ban rhystic study monday
>>98695861>that massacre girl is a troon.
Preban monday or the format burns down
>>98695865>>98695787I have 100 jeweled lotuses I desperately need an unban or I traded most of my shit for nothing lmaofastbond would be based.idk why they dont just unban everything and then ban sol ring rhystic and riftim sorry but those cards are for faggots
>>98695427introducing prizes to EDH is cancerous
>>98695884I hope it stays banned forever
>>98695883Can still counter her. Can still remove her.As much as people want to meme, people don't have infinite counterspells.
>>98695945>introducing prizes to EDH is cancerousand why would that be? elaborate.
>>98695869rude. Romania was aligned with the Soviet Union and China which made it second world not third
>>98695976Introduces a competitive mindset to a casual format
>>98695996>Introduces a competitive mindset to a casual game>huh? what's rocket league?ok unc time to rest now
>>98695976>Four player ffa bo1 is somehow a good way to competitively play magicSurely you jest.
>>98696016>i don't care about winning>it's a casual game you know, why are you so sweaty>so you wouldn't mind if i take the win now? you're just happy to be here anyway right?>aaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>98695060>TQ: How did you deal with an uppity player in your pod that was just so wrong with his play/understanding of rules that it was laughable?I'm too much of a betaI once avoided playing my Ashling Flame Dancer deck because when I showed it to some guy I'd never played against before he kept telling me that it would be too crazy for the magecraft trigger to always give you draw and discard, and what it means is you only get that the first time it triggers.So fucking annoying. First of all it doesn't say "instead" or anything similar, and secondly, having played the deck dozens of times the draw discard is actually very fucking annoying when I only have 1 or 2 cards in hand so it isn't always upside.This was before the new Strixhaven which is a shame because I think Opus would have been a good comparator as more of those have "instead" than Magecraft
>>98696024Not at all my point. I'm saying if I wanted to play competitive magic I would play a real actual format that is suited for it with sideboards and bo3 instead of whatever commander is at this point.
>>98696024winning in CEDH is largely determined by seat position, it's an absolute joke of a "format"
>>98695781>>98695865Rather just see a new Lotus that sacs for 3 but can only be spent to cast commanders of CMC 6+Much more balanced card
>>98695976A four player singleton format. The entire concept says casual.
Can anyone explain how the Izzet guild is still called izzet if Niv Mizzet is now the leader of orzhov? I thought the point was he named his guild after himself?
>>98696042well it would in fact be crazy if this was magecraft draw discard (loot), that's why it's discard draw (rummage) instead
https://moxfield.com/decks/vSWgAY9y33iRVfcHWBAw5gSomeone help me not make a stupid Miku deck, because I clearly can't do shit while drunk. I know you can just do the usual fuckery of infinite 1/1 token spam, but I want to focus on making tokens of big shot with Populate, as well as lifegain to use with the reservoir. I THINK I'm heading in the right direction here, but I think I need more lands and draw (e.g. vaultborn, trouble in pairs, sylvan library, etc).
>>98696064Yeah yeah i said 2 words in the wrong order can we save the autism for the competitive table please?
>>98696050cEDH is also solved considering the lack of bans towards cards like Thassa's and underworld breach.
>>98696062>A four player singleton format is casual and can never ever ever ever ever be played with the intent to winyou know what else is a singleton format that you can play with 4 players? poker
>>98696063Niv formed Izzet while he was alive then took over Orzhov when he died.
>>98696048>i want to play with a 50% chance to win not 25%fair enough, but you're only talking about your odds to win not whether edh can be played with the mindset of winning for prizes (it can be)
>>98696080Yeah and the world's greatest poker player still loses to 83 year old grandmother and knitting enthusiast, Beatrice, if luck is on her side. That's why poker is classified as gambling the world over.
>>98695976My LGS did it for one of the commander days, and its aids.>pay $10>you automatically get two packs for playing>if you knock someone out, you get another pack>you can get up to 5 packs if you get 3 knock outs >this leads to a game of chicken where everyone waits for everyone else to whittle people down
>>98696080If you wanna play competitive monopoly that's on you. Me personally I think it's fun to place little houses and collect $200 pass go. I'm sorry life is so pathetic you need to "win" every casual game of monopoly to feel important.
>>98696099>i'm sorry life is so pathetic you need to "win" every casual game of monopoly to feel important.>said by a guy who plays a children's card game aged 13+ competitively 'cuz 60 1v1 makes it le based'
>>98696098well gee no wonder it sucked they were reinventing the wheelcompare that shit to>>98695427
>>98696086It can't, not as it currently exists. The seat position problem and the tendency for games to end in draws make it a failed competitive format.
>>98696086The problem is in a 1v1 format with both decks designed to minimize their own randomness, the deciding factor (at least in a best of 3) is who makes the fewest mistakes during the game.Bad luck can be a factor, but over 3 games if you have bad luck each time (or I guess worst case scenario just 2 games) then your deckbuilding was flawed. It's 1v1 so the only person who can be advantaged by a mistake is the 1 opponent.But in a best of 1 with players 1v1v1v1, turn order is a massive problem, but also the fact that some effects negatively impact some match ups more than others. When a player makes a mistake it may also unequally advantage other players at the table. Add to this that it's best of 1 and therefore not minimizing random chanceIt's a joke of a format and the only people who take it seriously are people who can't compete in 1v1s and want to feel like big fish in small ponds
Xth for goblins.And to a lesser point stop putting so much text on cards wotc
>>98696144I'm so fucking sick of seeing your posts
>>98696096Yeah and the world's greatest mtg player still loses to you, 40 year old 4chan anon if luck is on your side, your point?>but it's gambling!protip: tcgs get away with gambling because they do not recognize the secondary market
>>98696119>The seat position problempoker players 100% always want to play on the button instead of under the gun and yet it's still considered competitive>the tendency for games to end in drawssolved by flagging draws as losses, but people aren't ready for (and unwilling to have) that conversation
>>98696150>Yeah and the world's greatest mtg player still loses to you, 40 year old 4chan anon if luck is on your side, your point?Objectively not because he built a deck to be as consistent as possible. If he's as good as he's supposed to be then the randomness is minimal. In competitive Magic players are rarely ever losing because they bricked. Someone who has never played Magic before isn't winning a pro tournament- they're probably not even winning a single game, but someone who has never played poker before can and will win hands against "pros"
>>98696161>yet it's still considered competitiveAnd yet it's still considered gambling... huh.
>>98696132i never said competitive is 'playing for the honor of being crowned the best'all i'm saying is that edh can be played with a competitive mindset, 'to play to win despite having only a 25% chance of doing so', why is this wisdom so hard to grasp?
Gambling is fun and addicts don't deserve our compassion. The same way everyone understands that alcoholism is the alcoholic's fault, any "evils" associated with gambling are the degenerate addict's fault too.Fuck you and your pearls.
Plague Wind with upside if you play it on turn 2 or 3, this is going to be great
>>98696161Poker is considered "competitive" by gambling consortiums who want to promote gambling to the masses.
>>98696173>secondary market? what's that?that simple sentence saves tcg companies from the law, funny huh?
>>98696149But then who would you tell to kill themselves?The images all use the same dimensions anon. Learn how to use filters.
>>98696161>people aren't ready for (and unwilling to have) that conversationso it's a failed competitive format because the players refuse to actually fix the problems with it
>>98696177>all i'm saying is that edh can be played with a competitive mindsetAnything can be played with a competitive mindset if you're a big enough faggot. You could play competitive "guess the card" in a 52 card deck if you're good at card counting, it still doesn't mean that your wins are down to skill. There is a chance of calling the right card first try, and your chances of calling the right card go up the fewer cards are left in the deck if you're keeping track, but it's still fucking random chance.
>>98696177>only a 25% chance of doing soMore like 85% if you're in seat 1 or 2, 10% in seat 3, and 5% in seat 4
>>98696186Sure but sports gambling apps and prediction markers should be banned and their owners and operators given the death penalty.
>>98696200I genuinely don't know how you think this is a good argumentThe point being made to you is that poker is gambling because too much of it comes down to random chance, whereas Magic has so many features that mitigate random chance and ways for players to influence the game itself that make it a strategic game of skill.You saying>w-well there's randomness in opening packs because cards are worth money therefore the whole thing is gamblingis perhaps the single most retarded fucking thing I've ever heard. The secondary market has fucking nothing to do with how the game is played.
>>98696212>you're good at card counting? that's not skill, that's totally not why players get kicked out of blackjack for card counting? it's totally luck!i accept your concession
>>98696201I didn't think of that, but thanks and bye you retarded pedophile. Kill yourself.
>>98696201ngl better overlay here than most real cards. I like how it goes over the frame yet under the text.
>>98696226Funny how I wasn't talking about blackjack and you had to try and make it about blackjack to support your own argument.By the way, blackjack? Still gambling bud, random chance. The only thing you can influence is how much you bet and that's what casinos kick you out for. You aren't actually playing the game any better, you're just spending your money better.
>>98696201>it is on YOU to remove me from your browsing experience and not on ME to stop spamming the same AI gooner slop constantlyStatements made by the mentally ill
>>98696245you're the one who brought up card counting, i only followed it to it's logical conclusion, it and other things like *gasp* deck building is playing to win and doing so requires some form of competency (aka skill) no matter how you seethe and call people fags about it
>>98695883Just when green is slowly catching up they drop this for blue.
>>98696224your inability to understand why tcg companies do not recognize the secondary market (that to wotc, rhystic study is the same value as basic lands) to avoid gambling accusations is painful, you're so stupid
>>98696255>you're the one who brought up card counting, i only [completely iginored the example you gave because it hurt my argument and tried to replace it with something else that still didn't even help my argument really but I felt more in control of this conversation as I tailspin]It's funny how you haven't even tried to argue your corner on blackjack after it was explained to you how your point is stupid. It's a shame too because I was so ready to demolish you on that again
>>98696205and it will be a better competitive format when they finally do accept it, like how the JP cedh crowd already does
>>98696267Please, PUHLEEEEEEEASE explain to me how you think randomization of card packs helps you argue that playing the game itself is gambling. Please man I'm begging you, I need to hear this.
>>98696242That shit irritates me too, both in real cards and other people's proxies.
>>98696270blackjack is gambling, yesyou know what wouldn't be gambling though? anything wotc endorses (like say a b2/b3 event in a commander fest)you know who will win such events? that's right, people like me who play to wininb4 you seethe again about fags playing to win in children's card games lol
>>98696274please point to the post where i said edh is gambling
>>98696287Your wins come down to random chance in competitive commander because players can take game actions that unequally advantage/disadvantage other players around the table.There is no way around this. Turn order, deck matchups, the best of 1 format.You can accept this and be grateful when you win, or you can delude yourself and pretend you won by pure skill. Either way we all know you couldn't compete in 1v1 so you chose baby-mode
>>98696247>You need to stop doing something because I don't like it, and you MUST BECAUSE I SAID I DON'T LIKE IT!Also said by the mentally ill. You have a solution. use it or don't.
>>98696297>Either way we all know you couldn't compete in 1v1 so you chose baby-modehearing 60card faggots say other games are baby mode is so funny, imagine playing with hidden information and introducing variables like shuffling
If this is a cycle, predict what the others will get.
>>98696311Blacks will be "You may pay 0 life instead of any other amount when you pay life.""Ward, lose half your life rounded up."
>>98696294Sure, right here. I said poker is gambling because due to random chance a player who has no idea what they're doing can beat a pro: >>98696096And you replied by saying some nobody could beat a pro in Magic if they got lucky (still not true by the way) and then started rambling that tcgs "get away with gambling" by not acknowledging the secondary market: >>98696150So I said poker is gambling for the reason stated by example, you then said that my example also applied to Magic, ergo (presumably) you are saying Magic is also gambling, because the next thing you say is that it's only NOT considered gambling because of some kind of loophole.How else did you want that to be read? And while we're here by the way. I know your knowledge of law only comes from TV so you think you have to physically pay an attorney a dollar to have privilege, and if you say "allegedly" in front of any statement you'll get off scot-free and whatever the fuck else, but I assure you no government in the fucking world lets companies themselves determine whether or not they provide gambling based on what the company publicly acknowledges to be true. Gambling in law has more to do with what governments choose to regulate. Regulators do not care that the contents of a pack of cards or randomized, nor do they care about mystery prize toys or arcade games. It's not because there's some magic trick to play the black letter of the law, it's because the law does not care to regulate those things.
are commander foundations worth it?I started playing in July and only have 1 slightly upgraded precon from tarkir dragonstorm
Gobpedo, or swordfag. Who is worse
>>98696299You have a solution, kill yourself and spare us from this spergatory.
>>98696339The gay bolas furry from sh*rty is worse than both.
>>98696336tcgs get away with gambling because they are in fact (as far as the law is concerned) not gambling retardand this is all tied to tcgs not recognizing the secondary market, and also due to how tournaments are handled (you only pay an entry fee, you don't put a pure wager, and the top prize is officially the same value as a basic land)>it's because the law does not care to regulate those thingshmmm now i am starting to wonder what else you want to regulate kek
>>98696338Always buy singles. You can get a ton of mileage out of sub-$1 cards.
>>98696311White's is "You may have target opponent win the game, if you do, they may choose to make target spell you control uncounterable. Activate this ability only once per turn as a sorcery"
>>98696338The precons? Are the lists out yet? No one will know until then>>98696339It's swordtard by a pretty wide margin. That man was an actual fucking narcissistic autist kind of like Chris Chan. He truly fucking believed that simply being present and posting his decks generated conversation and therefore was a net positive contribution to the threads and justified him tripfagging.He would samefag, he would play his own defense force whenever people told him to fuck off, and he would post the same fucking 200 card decklists constantly and be like "I don't know what to cut! :( " when he had the same fucking shitty $1000 cards that didn't advance his game plan in any fucking way and which he had been told repeatedly should be cut.I'm genuinely getting worked up just remembering him. Much worse than some faggot proxy coomer. For now anyway.
>>98696311Green - Whenever you cast a permanent spell, copy it twice and the copy is not legendaryBlack - Discard a card: add [B][B][B], Sacrifice a creature: draw two cardsWhite - During each opponent's upkeep, tap all their permanents unless they pay [2] for each of those permanents
>>98696354>tcgs get away with gambling because they are in fact (as far as the law is concerned) not gambling retardCool that's not what you fucking said here:>>98696150or here:>>98696200And is ctonradicted by you repeating:>and this is all tied to tcgs not recognizing the secondary marketI'll say to you again:>no government in the fucking world lets companies themselves determine whether or not they provide gambling based on what the company publicly acknowledges to be true. Gambling in law has more to do with what governments choose to regulate.Law courts are not fae courts. Despite pop-culture depictions there is in fact no verbal trick you can play where the right string of words or absence there of makes something what it isn't. Cracking packs isn't gambling because the law says it isn't gambling, you got that part right in your first fucking sentence. This retarded bullshit of somehow it would magically become gambling if they acknowledged the secondary market is completely made up by you.
>>98696368https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/foundations-commander-decklistsfrom 3 hours agoshould I stick to buying singles?
>>98696339gobpedo is a harmless annoyance. swordfag seemed like he was genuinely here to make the thread the only about himself in all the ways the other anon said.
>>98696388What color are you looking at? Just any of them? Whichever is most valuable?
>>98696387>This retarded bullshit of somehow it would magically become gambling if they acknowledged the secondary market is completely made up by you.actually it would be, your inability to accept this only proves you're a retard
>>98696311Destiny Spinner and Frenzied Baloth both sort of fit the sort of effect I'd expect for Green.White would probably just be Voice of Victory, but instead of Mobilize it's a tap ability to grant protection/hexproof to a single target.
>>98696390God do you remember the time he got a copy of Chains of Mephistopheles and people said it was fake, and his justification for how it wasn't fake was because his "friend" bought it for him ($1000) by the way, for his MAYBE PILE?He was such a fucking stupidly bad liar.
>>98696388war rooms everywhere!
>>98696394>refuting my point makes it true!Oh great, we're in the gnome-logic stage of this internet shitfight.
>Have all the generically good equipment>Decide to build a random R/W equip slot.>Pass this card in my box of multicolor>Looks cute, pass it up>Realize several minuets later> It can’t be blocked that combat.Holy shit. Any cool tech before I go hunting? Other than Voice of Victory or whatever.
>39 lands>very little ramp>a lot of big cost creatures>mono green loot is in the 99 when the deck was clearly made for him in mindCowards didn’t have the guts to put him in the command zone.
>>98696411please tell me how wotc acknowledging that booster packs actually contain randomized pieces of paper worth specific cash amounts would totally not make their product a lottery and would not give them any legal trouble whatsoever you absolute moron
>>98696320>Card that will very obviously age extremely poorly and require multiple immediate bansThey're not THAT retarded
>>98696422>green>very little rampBut why? Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't green be running dorks and Kodama's Rewch and co whenever possible?
>>98696423>please tell me how wotc acknowledging that booster packs actually contain randomized pieces of paper worth specific cash amounts would totally not make their product a lotteryBecause the definition of a lottery has nothing to do with whether the person running a lottery acknowledges it as one.Lotteries, and gambling as a whole- really not sure why you suddenly wanted to make this about lotteries specifically- is defined by a set of criteria and not your fucking acknowledgement of those criteria.Do you also think a crime is not a crime if you just choose not to acknowledge it? Are you a sovereign citizen? Do you think speeding in a vehicle is simply lawfully traversing in your land-boat and the cops and the courts have wrongfully convicted you of a crime?
>>98696311>WhiteAlready exists (Voice of Victory/Grand Abolisher)>GreenFrenzied Baloth/Delighted Halfling/Allosaurus Shepherd (or just another Dosan, Falling Leaf, but unlikely)>BlackDuress. Burglar Rat.
>>98696431It runs 5 mana dorks and no land fetch sorceries, no cultivate, no kodamas, nothing faster than a hasteless lanowar elves besides a few rocks. It needs more or ramp in the command zone.
>>98696447>Because the definition of a lottery has nothing to do with whether the person running a lottery acknowledges it as one.so why DOESN'T wotc acknowledge the secondary market if there's no risk in doing so, retard? they just chose to out of sheer randomness? lmao
>>98696450>>Black>Duress. Burglar Rat.lolwe all know what's coming next
>>98696404I remember, and I don't think it was fake, It was just a very weird cope to avoid admitting he spent that much money for something. Which was in line since he was so generally autistic.
>>98695838It's impressive how I wanted her in a deck at one point because of one of her known killer arts and now i don't want anything to do with her
>>98696054Yeah I'd like that too, but for mono colored commanders the current one can be gas. Turn 1 Azusa and Rofellos followed by turn two Primeval Titan? That's a world I want to live in.
>>98696422lists are out?
>>98696144Is she selling that bath water
>>98696455>so why DOESN'T wotc acknowledge the secondary market if there's no risk in doing so, retard?There is a reputational risk and not a legal one. No one wants to talk about how the sausage is made. You can create chase cards and 001/001s, you can print cards at higher rarities and even tell your customers how many of each rarity is in a pack so they can do the odds of there chances of pulling something on their own- but when you acknowledge that you're aware of the value of your cards you open a dialogue about your business practices. That is a dialogue WotC doesn't want to fucking have because it is wildly anti-consumerThat's it anon. It's just not a PR move in WotC's interest to make.I'm genuinely astounded that you made all this bullshit up about the law- which you could easily fucking look up and understand properly if you wanted to by the way- just because you didn't understand a business decision but wanted to feel like you DID understand it. Absolutely wild man.Maybe next time you run your retard ideas through ChatGPT or something to check whether you're completely full of shit before you base an argument on it
>>98696492Only costs your soul, and just noticed she has 6 toes, back to the chopping block with that.one.
>>98695838>>98696477Just use the non-ugly art.
>>98696496>There is a reputational riskincorrect, it is in fact a legal risk>when you acknowledge that you're aware of the value of your cards you open a dialogue about your business practices.>coming from the company that uses the pinkertons and other tomfuckeryi 100% assure you that reputational risk is the least of wotc's worries about their product being stereotyped as a game for trannies and mentally disabled autistsyour fundamental flaw is your inability to accept that certain words / not speaking about certain things do in fact save you from legal repercussions, perhaps actually read up the legal definition of gambling before you kvetch any further
>>98696519>>98696477the arcade treatment is great too
>>98696519japs once again saving this game
>>98696528>>98696529I don't think I've ever seen a JP guest artist draw an ugly card. Why has WOTC never tried "oops all JP" for a set?
>>98696519Her use cases are rather limited though.
>>98696489https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/foundations-commander-decklistsHere you go, nigger.
>>98696537Because the people who run wizards hate attractive women.
>>98696544>he doesn't want nonstop aristocrat board wipe in the command zone
>>98696537not a fan of Japanese OG Teysa. it's okay I guess but not great. but the average appeal is definitely higher than the average westerner they contract with >Why has WOTC never tried "oops all JP" for a set?Foundations Jumpstart kind of did this. everyone loves Cynette
>>98696460R&D has been moving in the opposite direction. Thoughtseize effects are getting weaker, not stronger. Their standard has moved up from 2 mana to 3 for an unconditional Thoughtseize, and the 2 mana ones are receiving restrictions on what they can take. I don't see that being very likely. It would be like expecting WotC to print Swords to Plowshares that exiles 3 creatures of your choice without targeting.
>>98696522>incorrect, it is in fact a legal riskI'm done with you man. You can either choose to look up Dumas v Major League Baseball Properties (2000) and Schwartz v Upper Deck (1996) or you can continue to be wrong.
>>98696558>It would be like expecting WotC to print Swords to Plowshares that exiles 3 creatures of your choice without targeting.that would be pretty mid in the grand scheme of things, in the sense that it relies on your opponent doing something firstthe best cards are the ones that punish people for doing unavoidable game actions
>>98696247Yep anon glad you got how 4chan is supposed to work. It's about freedom
>>98696566
>>98696561major league baseball won that case you retard, all the more proof that saying/defining certain things as they are do in fact save companies from the law, and that wotc does not recognize the secondary market for purely legal reasons>I'm done with you manyeah run away now i clearly won this argument lol
>>98696548Cucking the tokenspammers isn't worth the command slot to me. Worth tossing her into the library though. Using her as commander when everyone else is using tokenspam would be quite funny though.
>>98696566What the tithe being paid where?What's smothering?
>>98696566>A powercrept version of THE defining most piece of white creature removal in the game>mid in the grand scheme of thingsNever show your face again here this is the most embarrassing thing I've read on /edh/ in the past 3 years and I've seen some shit. Holy shit you retards do not play this game.
>>98696555Objectively speaking she still looks nice. Just a matter of personal taste.Much of western "artists" deliberately draw women to be ugly, and not for comedy reasons.
>>98696582>major league baseball won that case you retard, all the more proof that saying/defining certain things as they are do in fact save companies from the lawHoly fuck. How did MLB win the case you fucking moron? It's called the "benefit of the bargain" ruleYou are genuinely so retarded you shouldn't even be alive
>>98696570No one wants you here. Kill yourself.
>>98696566I don't see it happening since it's the same idea of taking one of the strongest interaction pieces ever printed, then powercreeping it just for the sake of filling a perceived niche in a 4p format. That's a rather dangerous road to start treading and it's pretty clear WotC knows this when cards like Grasp of Fate and Soul Shatter sit pretty firmly at 3 mana which is a threshold that some boardwipes are at (e.g. Temporary Lockdown). You'd be looking at a card that's 4 mana at a minimum, likely 5 just as a tax to discourage people from slotting it without a strong plan behind it and wasting tons of time deciding what to take (since I think we can both agree the average EDH player has intelligence lower than a cabbage). At that point you can just run some stupid Thought Distortion or Wit's End combo.
>>98696597>he came back after saying 'he was done'>only to be btfo yet againthe court granted the motion of the defendant to dismiss the case without leave to amend you retarded faggot, MLB won that case clean
>>98696593smothering being mentioned had the implication that cedh meta was being considered as what makes a card truly powerful, please take your timmy games elsewhere
>>98696308CEDH is in fact baby mode compared to actual competitive 60 card formats
>MLB won that case cleanBUT NOT BECAUSE OF YOUR RETARDED LEGAL THEORY ABOUT REFUSING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SECONDARY MARKETMLB ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEIR CARDS HAVE VALUE ON THE SECONDARY MARKET IN THE FUCKING CAAAAASE YOUR ARGUMENT IS SHIIIIIIIITTHEY WON BECAUSE THEY NEVER PROMISED THAT PARTICULAR CARDS OF PARTICULAR VALUE WERE IN A PACK, THE CONSUMER GOT WHAT THEY PAID FOR WHICH WAS RANDOM CARDS OF PARTICULAR RARITIES
>>98696599Unfortunately for you that doesn't determine my ability to postLive and enjoy life anon
>>98696610are you trying to imply swords to plowshares sees no play in cedh
>>98696618stp is only used half the time in blue farm lists, so yes it is quite mid in the grand scheme of things indeed
>>98696623I hate this place and every retarded faggot in here holy fuck
>>98696614>THEY WON BECAUSE THEY NEVER PROMISED THAT PARTICULAR CARDS OF PARTICULAR VALUE WERE IN A PACK exactly, now guess what wotc isn't promising in their booster packs too! retard!
>>98696612CEDH is a poker minigame.
>>98695519>Swamp>Lotus Petal>Imprint Bolas’ Citadel with Chrome MoxIt’s just that easy
>>98696612and 60 cards are for babies, careful about them glass houses>t. chess player
>>98696630>yeah let me do an illegal game action with chrome mox just to prove a retarded point hahaha
How does black, red, and green keep up with rhystic and smothering in cedh
>>98696629CEDH is a baby format for babies who couldn't hack it in legacy so they ran away to the solved format that never gets any bans
>>98696643They don't get to, it's a stupid format.
>>98696643dockside, but sheldon needed blue to have all the fun
>>98696643they don't, red is there to provide access to Underworld Breach.
>>98696628Holy fuck you can't actually be this stupid.You said that cards magically become gambling if a company acknowledges the secondary market. MLB acknowledged the secondary market in that case but it still wasn't classified as gambling. Your theory is immediately disprovenThe reason it is not gambling is because the way the law treats it is literally as buying cardboard. The company has cardboard to sell, you buy it.In gambling you do not purchase something for value, you put money up for the chance to win money or money equivalent. Because you are literally buying cardboard in the eyes of the law, you are getting more than simply the chance to obtain value. Even if the cardboard you get isn't worth shit, you still own carboard instead of nothing. The company's acknowledgement of the secondary market value of that cardboard is irrelevant unless they hold out that you WILL get cardboard of a specific monetary value when in fact you may not.That is as simple as I can make this fucking case for you.
>>98696643green is doing fine right now in cedh believe it or not, it's never been strongerred needs dockside backblack is currently gimped by cards being ante (contract) and reserved list (yawgmoth's bargain) and a pussyass design philosophy (can't thoughtseize people!), that's why black in cedh is very limited and is just>rituals>tutors>necro and adnaus>consult and pact
Total Loot death
>>98696658when i say wotc 'acknowledges' the secondary market it means:>*internal boardroom discussion* hey rhystic is $60 on the market>*makes public announcement* anons rhystic is $60! just in time for us to release modern horizons 4!obviously everyone knows the secondary market exists, the whole point though is that on official marketing wotc makes no mention of it to the point that they even ban ante (!) despite not making any declaration that certain cards are worth more than others - only that certain cards are *more rare* than others - and yet again you still cannot wrap your head around the fact that defining things in certain ways does in fact save you from the lawat this point you're just mad and you can't let go despite saying 'you're done', you must have a humiliation fetish or something lol
>>98696646That's what I said.
>>98696666>Pact >6666okay uber satan.Forgive my idiocy, but what "pact"
>>98696690
Made a bunch of last-minute tweaks that aren't reflected in this list. Traded for an Urza that gave the deck a pretty notable power boost, all that said I didn't get to play much.A late start and game 1 was exceptionally poor. An uncontested turn 1 Sol Ring from a Hakbal player led to him snowballing. Punted a few things in my attempts at dealing with his merfolk, and rather than let me swing in so I could trigger cipher off Stolen Identity to get the mana to improvise a Cyclonic Rift vs. the deterministic lethal on the Hakbal player's board, the naya elfball player decided to greed and chump blocked. So before passing I 2-mana Cyc-rifted his Chulane to hand and we all died.The deck gets a bit more engine-y than I would like, and the Descendants' Fury stuff might eat a cut despite being cute.
Mr Mailman delivered some excellent upgrades for my old borders Jarkeld deck, but sadly my friends canceled on EDH night tomorrow
>>98696688>>*internal boardroom discussion* hey rhystic is $60 on the market>>*makes public announcement* anons rhystic is $60! just in time for us to release modern horizons 4!They could still do this as long as they did not make promises of you getting $60 of value from a pack when you may not.I seriously do not get how you don't understand this.Again. The distinction between packs of cards and gambling is that with cards you are purchasing game pieces and wiih gambling you are purchasing only the opportunity to win money or a priize.It does not fucking matter that the cards are randomized, it does not fucking matter that the cards have different values on the secondary market, and it does not fucking matter whether the company behind it acknowledges values on the secondary marketAll. that. fucking. matters. is whether you bought cardboard or not. Can I make this any clearer for you? Seriously.Gambling:>money in>win: get money or prize>lose: get nothingCard packs>money in>regardless of the value of those cards, you got cards which is all you were promised to get
>>98696726How much did these bangers cost you
>>98696735I think about $7 but more than half was on shipping
>>98696731>They could still do thisand yet they don't, funny how wotc never has and never will do that>gambling is that with cards you are purchasing game piecesincorrect, try scrubbing out of certain major 60 card events and you get virtually nothing, not even a foil promo card>All. that. fucking. matters. is whether you bought cardboard or not.incorrect yet againwhat matters is>are there pure wagers (the stake); your entry fee becomes it when you consider full proxy cedh tournaments running around>how luck-based is your supposed 'game' (the outcome)>what exactly is the prize?it's also not a coincidence that tcgs will never ever give cash payout as a prize for a very very good reason
>>98696775>and yet they don't, funny how wotc never has and never will do thatBecause it is bad PR to admit that you design cards to be powerful, make them exceedingly rare, in the hopes that it motivates people to crack packs, yeah.Funnily enough announcing "hey guys we're manipulating you!" is something companies don't like doing even when we all know they are manipulating customers.You don't see candy companies crowing about how they're putting less chocolate in a chocolate bar while the price actually goes up, and yet we all know they're doing it, it's called shrinkflation.>he's now trying to pivot into discussing tournament prizes when this conversation has been entirely about whether cracking packs is gambling or notHoly fucking shit dude, you are the worst kind of loser. You said something stupid, it got explained to you. You're on an anonymous board you don't even have to fucking reply you can slink away silently if that's what your ego requires.
>>98696682Black loot canonically rapes troons btw
>>98696796Does that mean regular loot is raped by troons?
>>98696786>it's not a legal risk... it's reputational! I promiseAfter everything wotc has done you still think it'a reputational? Let me guess you think they're not abolishing the RL cuz muh PR? Huh? Retard>you said opening packs were gambling!I never said they were, you just dont like the answer why. Retard.
>>98696796black loot also enhances tits
>>98696617No, your life needs to end. All you do is make this general and your lgs miserable with your aislop pedobait proxies
>>98696804>nissa shows pits and boobs>might not even be a dyke anymoreHe really did fix Nissa, rest in power Jace
>>98696599Incorrect. I want him here, mainly because it pisses (You) off.
>>98696835>I want to be part of the problem and let porn addicted pedotroons further obliterate this site
>>98696804Jace made Nissa a super straight homophobe, I bet she takes so much white cock. Good job Jace you did something right you tranny fuck.
It's good to be back
>>98696799>>you said opening packs were gambling!>I never said they were, you just dont like the answer why.NTA but your reasoning was that they're not gambling because WotC won't acknowledge that they are lmao
>>98696859Correct, why is that so hard to digest?
>>98696862Not gonna fall for you bait
>>98696863You dont have to continuously argue a losing point you know
>>98696845Took you long enough to default back to "da troons."Its not your thread, or your site. You just need ot accept that and get on with your life.
>>98696682Please try harder anon
>>98696877To kill Loot? Thank you father, I will!
>>98696643Cabbage Merchant feasts on Rhysticslop decks actually, by parasitically outslopping rhystic decks. Green is great in cEDH.
>>98696922I get that he's "good" but he seems meh to me. Like a worse Urza. I'm aware I'm probably wrong, but I don't get the hype.
>white card draw is so garbage that the design team folded and put a fucking Investigate sub-theme into the monowhite preconel emming my ay ohs
>>98696936gleaming splendor
>>98696933cabbage is like a rhystic where it punishes game actions (most actions in cedh being casting noncreature spells)thing is an abundance of mana is oftentimes *better* than having a bunch of cards, that's why a lot of free spells are used in cedh, because it's not very useful to have a large grip but not be able to cast them
>>98696643This guy single-handedly changed how Kinnan was played
>>98696537>Why has WOTC never tried "oops all JP" for a set?is that not what the FF set is?
>>98696942Thinking of making a cEDH loot deck now.
>>98696949Yes and they should do more
>>98696942Buy giving his dorks pseduo hate?
>>98696957https://m.youtube.com/shorts/HqguIZFXzog
This is such an underrated card in white weenie decks. It's won me so many games.
No one posts decks anymore
>>98696976Slop spammer drove off all serious posters
>>98696976swordfag killed deck posting by being an attention whore with it
>>98696976Here is my old (updated) Vendilion Clique 1v1 deck. I need to update it, but I haven't played it in almost a year. Obviously nobody likes playing against it.
>>98696976
>>98696981>>98696982If you ask, people will post. Just that simple.
>>98696994>Quint>Quint>Quintorious
>>98696982Swordfag hasn't been in here for months upon months.
>>98696997Chat is this true?Why does no one post official cards with female feet on them anymore?
>>98697000And yet the scars he leaves behind run deep
>>98696422>>98696431https://moxfield.com/decks/m_jqtk3F6EOQiq1gytJFJgYou are genuinely fucking retarded if you'd rather run cultivate than llanowar tribe in a ghalta deck.What this deck lacks though is recursion and protection. One wrath and its just fucking over.
>>98696989this isn't good enough for duel commander
>>98697024>dumb nigger thinks relying on creature ramp is an intelligent decisionOnly stupid dumb niggers can’t recognise that ramp that fetches lands over everything else is superior.
>>98696976I haven't played it in a few weeks because it's a headache to keep track of.
>>98696547It's literally just the art director. She's scared/dislikes big titties and female forms but loves romantasy gay smut
>>98696966Whos the commander, Myrel?
>>98697065Theeere he goesthere he goes again
I attack you 2x your go
>>98697049>hmm i could cast my commander (12/12) on turn 3 if i had a 3 power creature that also generates 3 mana>okay but what if the enemy board wipes though, i better play a rampant growth stapled to a lay of the land, that'd be the safer bet
>>98696976>>98696966Luv me robots
>>98696933It makes so much mana it's able to win at instant speed in response to other people's wins.
>>98696976this is a cedh thread now casual decks are not welcome anymore
>>98697113>opponent board wipes turn 4, dumb nigger can’t play recursion because they no longer have mana dorksMany such cases, should’ve fetched lands nigger.
Both of you never played a Ghalta deck
>>98697043I know. It's a deck I made in 2010 for 1v1 before dual commander was a thing. Slowly upgraded it but barely played it since then. It was obscurely strong when you could bounce a commander to a player's hand, then put it on the bottom of their library. I looked it up and apparently Dual Commander is now a format with it's own ban list. I guess I have a few cars on it. No worries. It's just a deck I play if I want a quick casual 1v1 game against someone.
>>98697170I have. It goes infinite really easily but it can also just kill by big stompy if you can't assemble it.
Anyone got any combos that aren't infinite but can consistently do just enough damage to win the game? Only one I can think of is BlasAct + Repercussions
>>98697188There's the classic Scorgue of Valkas+Rite of replication.
>>98697188winota + an attacking non-human
>>98697170If you’ve played big stompy including green you’ve played ghalta.
>>98697188
>>98697201Yeah buddy! This has won me a few games before.
>>98696981So you admit you're an unserious non-games poster?
>>98697188If you are allowed to cast either one of these your opponents might as well scoop because there is no recovering.
>>98697188>Anyone got any combos that aren't infinite but can consistently do just enough damage to win the game? Love to see people finally thinking on how to break bracket limitationsFor starters there's always this card
>>98697233I cast fog
>>98697216this didn't happen
>>98697276I dropped this with ents though
>>98697322doomblade
>>98697322prevent all damage. it can be prevented.
>>98697233>>98697322I say good day sir
>>98697361>yeah on your end step I cast Final Showdown choosing its first and third additional costs >untap upkeep draw I cast Biorhythm
>>98697233>>98697322You left me with no choice, greenbros...
frens let my test out the new MonoB Avacyn last night and damn getting to loop Kokusho 4 times per cyle is nasty as fuck
>TQnot about rules but every time I tell my opponent they will lose to the 3rd player if he kills me I've been right. it's started to happen so embarrassingly often for them I needed to remind them that there are no second places
>>98697480too bad people are retarded"if you kill him I won't kill you next turn""ok"
>>98697329sorry, got dosan from that spell too
>>98697387angel's grace and bolt to your face
damn I'm winning every interaction so easy!
Who for Arabella if not Ranni? There's not many toy characters.
>>98697496I think you missed something because the bolt is not needed here
>>98697500Always have it
>>98697488oh if only they even wanted a deal like that. they just do it to kingmake so I can't even counter offer
>>98697502Bo Peep from Toy Story
can you guys help me with my Miku deck?i made it low/barely-mid bracket 4 but i just wanted a high power bracket 3 deckeven better if it can reduce the cost for upgradingi actually also really like the non infinite combo win cons you guys have postedhttps://archidekt.com/decks/26387232/miku_upgrade?sort=cmc&stack=customi started playing in July of this year so i dont really know what im doing and the infinite combos came from a decklist analyzerim not taking out the miku cards (maybe except vorinclex only if other players arent ok with it)
>>98697502chucky obviously
>>98697502whoops, left a reference to Aminatou in the ult
To the anons who suggested those 2 white and 2 blue cards to help stick it to my gishrath friend, thank you. I flashed in the white chick and he tripple checked her card text before sighing and saying that's dumb. I asked if he'd prefer I return the standard removal cards I replaced for them and he said maybe. God I fucking hate removal man.
>>98697691what's up with Gishath? Was he popping off too hard?
Is there a good alternative to using dice for counters? Currently running a prolif deck and tend to make a shitton of them and move them around, so constantly manipulating dice to find the exact next number tends to be annoying and time-consuming and if someone bumps the table or something it's a whole mess of shit trying to get everything back togetherI've seen life counter gizmos that have two spinnable digit wheels on them and those would do the trick but they're too bulky to haul a dozen of them around for every game.
>>98697716I'm using an app called Tripling Season
>>98697716life counters. otherwise stop playing counter/token strategies. they are against the spirit of true magic the gathering.
>>98697716Get little trays for your dice is the easiest solution. A little grid tray will keep dice from rolling or slipping.Otherwise: >>98697776or there are disk counters and things like that to try.
>>98696809Well it's not gonna. The sooner you accept that reality the happier you'll be.You "win" this exchange btw, you can have the last wordI'm not going anywhere tho
This is the worst set I've seen in years. I think conspiracytard anon was right about them intentionally trying to sink UW sets by releasing garbage in universe sets.
>>98696976that one anon trying to doxx everyone probably has something to do with this
>>98697836who asked?
>>98697847How do you dox someone via decks posted?
>>98697866Something in the image data I presume.
>>98697866Accent on "trying". He didn't, he saved the pictures and whenever he argued with someone he'd go, this is you and this is you deck because you post like this or that and this is your tapped out/reddit etc
>>98697836Wasn't it obvious? UB consistently has the best and most fun designs, it's much too frequent for it to be a coincidence
>>98697871And that is why you remove that.
>>98697743>>98697794Will look into these, thanks>>98697776That's the exact kind of thing I'm talking about, but it's a bit large to carry a bunch of them around
>14 cards where the set is “fra” and the card types include “cleric”we cooking
>>98697919nice
>>98697855>NOOO YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT MTG SETS IN AN MTG THREAD
Bolas gay
>infinite multiverseslop mirror universes are canon>not one has a straight bolas Dragons being gay is the only constant in magic.
>>98697937who cares about sets in EDH?singles only, no matter the source.
I think the foundations precons are kind of cute. I should really get around to building a mono colored deck, I've been slopping it up in 3+ colors for too long.
>>98697974>8 different art versions of GiadaI like how they know angels are a popular card type but those fags at wotc still can't bring themselves to release a bunch of up to date angels with pleasing art to build angel tribal around.
>>98697697I just fucking hate it because it's incredibly one note to play against him with my friend. Every single game he plays 10 billion mana ramps, because every match he gets kodamas, farseek, miraris wake, mana reflection, etc and by turn 4 has 10 billion mana and plays gish. So every match has basically turned into me mulling until I get removal so I can just kill on sight him. I just think it's super boring and binary and it's literally all he's played for like 2 months.
>>98698123Could also try playing Fin Fang Foom single target land denial, although that might also make him hella salty
>>98696626They should make a 1 mana spell that exiles all lands your opponents control. It would honestly be kinda mid because cEDH is all about mana rocks anyway.
there should be a 2 mana spell that destroys lands down to the lands of the player with the least
>>98698152He doesn't have any land enchantments. I'm about to start running MLD I'm so tired of playing against him like this. We had one match where I got lucky and pulled some artifact removal and blew up all his rocks and he complained non stop he couldn't play with no mana (he had 5)
An OP commander fyiFew know this
>>98698199Casuals aren't giving their own creatures shit. cEDHtroons creatures are already in the graveyard waiting to be cheated out.
>>98698199>... targeting Horobi, Death's Wail. Response?
>>98698242>*plays him again*Uh oh stinky! Not so fast!
What do you think about house ruling the last player becoming the monarch as they start their first turn?
>>98698262weird to play the same commander over and over every two turns just to have it die for 1 mana but you do you
>>98698270I’ve never played someone that has as many spells as I do to the purpose and is able to do that, it’s more of a hypothetical you’ve invented
>>98698262>... targeting Horobi, Death's Wail... again. Response?There's nothing wrong with building around him to do some goofy stuff, but "Dies to Removal" at least usually is a matter of having removal. "Suicides to Targeting" is a serious flaw to work around.
>>98698199Secret commander in abzan with this
>>98696388white one looks solid only need some changes and better removalblue is a weird one with an artifact theme and going 40 landsblack and red has nice reprints but lack some cards to assist in their strategygreen has a lot of mana dorks butt lacks more dinosaurs/big threats
>>98696388>>98698558Yeah I don't see any reprints that stick in my memory as more than $5. I'm sure there's a couple $10 ones in the Angels precon just because even mediocre angels are often around $2 so that's your floor.I think the blue one is fine, what's weird about it? It's like they hit copy paste on a budget Emry Lurker of the Loch list and put in some splashy beaters for the TimmysOf them though I think black looks most focused in what it's doing. It stands out to me that it only has zombie tokens and then like a dozen ways to make zombies, so it knows what it's trying to do and just does it
>>98698226casuals actually love playing equipments
>>98696388>>98696545The red one is cool, so's the black one. But they're clearly starter decks to get a loved one into the game.
>>98697987What do you mean an 8 mana 6/3 with haste and the ability to tap to redirect 3 damage to anyone is CRAZY value man!
>>98698600As a casual can confirm. Voltron, regular creatures, all of it. I love giving them swords, armor and auras. Sword of the animist and extra combat steps is my favorite way to ramp
>>98697691What cards were they?
>>98698787They are cute decks that you can play unmodified with lgs randos to avoid gay powerlevel discussions beforehand. I kind of want them but then I'd have to buy a million sleeves to keep them in.
They'll never see this coming
>>98698968They look pretty underpowered. I build a lot of budget decks and I'd say they're about on par except with some really odd less than desirable choices.I find that a good measure of a deck's consistency can often be as simple as how many rares it's running. Of course there's always excellent uncommons and commons (especially in green), but yeah the number of rares is a good measure and there's less rares than I would expect in these precons
I didn't know Gisa was that stacked, damn.
>>98698988I believe they are considered budget / entry level decks which is why they are cheap , but arent anything too crazy like the new Ashling precon
>>98699058>arent anything too crazy like the new Ashling preconWhat do you think was crazy about the Ashling precon??? They completely cheaped out on the lands and didn't even include no-brainer tribal staples. Ashling is the objective best elemental commander and I still never see anyone playing her. Hell I have the fucking precon and I played it precisely once after trying to upgrade it.What I'm saying about these monocolor precons is that even for budget there's just some strange choices. Artifacts can actually run pretty cheap because often they're not good unless you're going all in on the card type and can then cast them for free. But there's some includes in there that are just not worth playing, which is odd when they could have put a 10 cent rare in its place
>>98699080Fair enough, ive seen the Ashling precon absolutely go bonkers mutiple times in my playgroup though, including when i play it. I do see your point though anon, id like to give the zombie one a go because it looks competent for the most part. They have a habit of putting in cards in decks that defentally has you questioning why, like the Sphinx in jaces new deck
>>98697974they re-whitened her
>>98697266nope they already consider BlasAct+Repurcussions a two card combo and bracket 4 only.
>>98699108>like the Sphinx in jaces new deckThat one's pretty easy though. It's basically the original Etali except it has wings and fur. Not very hard to figure out, it's a good and fun effect on a big beater.
>>98698305this is one of the craziest cards in a few years. hitting platinum angel with this is hilarious
>>98698266nah i think we should just yank seat one's balls more by making them skip first draw.your idea is silly. seat one just punches seat four in the face to get the draw for themselves, you're literally making seat one even better.
>>98699108>They have a habit of putting in cards in decks that defentally has you questioning why, like the Sphinx in jaces new deckWell in that one it's more understandable because the truth of it is that they wanted to colorshift a few more characters than they had space for in the main set.The real question with that one is what idiot talked the design team into making so many of them 6CMC. It makes it feel like more of a win when you cheat it into play, but goddamn some of them are really not 6 mana worth of stats and effects. Jhoira and Tamiyo in particular are overcosted. But yeah the simple answer is they wanted to print a bunch of new commanders but only had 1 precon to do it in
>>98699137It synergizes with sphinxes when there are no other sphinxes in the deck AND has an eminence effect.
>>98699206It's a 10/10 flier that shits out value without any other sphinxes unless you get supremely unlucky. I don't understand what your problem with it is. Do you just have tribalbrain?
>>98699251This shit has to be bait.Here's a question. You can take any 1 creature spell out of the precon and replace it with Edgar Markov, do you do it?
>>98699259Profoundly retarded comparison. Thanks for answering the question though, tribalbrain.
>>98699275>erm it's fine to have the sphinx tribal commander in the precon but no I would not trade any of the worst creatures in the deck for the vampire tribal commanderThanks for proving the point, retard. An eminence commander does not belong in the 99 of another deck.
>>98699355>hurr durr the ur dragon would somehow not be a good sneak attack payoff because it's a dragon in the 99 of another deckThis is how you sound.
>>98699479How many eminence commaders do you run in the 99 of your other decks anon? I'd love to know. It's more than 0, right?
>>98698558>>98698590>>98698787which of the decks caan be properly upgraded?
>>98699526All of them??? All decks can have cards taken out and replaced with better cards anon, what the fuck are you asking?
>>98696696Couldn't help retooling the deck now that I've seen it in action. The ramp package has somehow dwindled into even more deranged territory, but with the baseline curve of living weapons so low it feels weird taking an early turn playing a rock vs. playing a living weapon.Something about the deck is still nagging me structurally, but I'll see after I get a few more games in next week. I'm much happier with this version.
>no reality fracture yawgmoth, urza, gerrard or ixidor or mirari
>>98699667Here's your Mirari bro.
>>98697902I think there's a simpler explanation>UB has established characters that force top-down designs more consistently>UW is flooded with safe bottom-up designs that don't do anything new because it's easier to make
>>98699667>Make universe with no Bolas>Ugin MIA>Make universe with no Phyrexians>Urza and Mishra MIA
>>98699556thoughts on this for the same sort of strat?
>>98699745Ehh, I mean he will let you run every living weapon in one place. But then the rest of your deck is just a colorless equipment heap? I'm not too big a fan, especially when he's six mana to get out.I vastly prefer the novelty of commander + strategy and going from there. Dalakos and living weapons has a synergy in that he hastes the equipped creatures. But what you do from there is sort of up to you as a brewer. The polymorph subtheme isn't necessary; you could easily just go all-in on flying haste aggro. I'm sure there are other novel living weapon commanders, though I've sorta latched onto Dalakos. If only because he's like 1500th place on EDHrec.
>>98699667I just wanted my rakdos faeries man
>>98699800yes ok cool but consider
>>98699859Honestly a based card, though good luck finding a commander who capitalizes on it AND lets you run more living weapon synergies. Cloud is close. The fact that he draws you a card for each attacking equipped creature is relevant, though he only makes it a 5/5 which isn't very interesting.Jinnie Fay also makes living weapons work. As does Sephiroth, Fallen Hero. Even this fucking thing has some synergy. Not that any of these help you run Tangleweave Armor.
>>98699889OH, there's this guy. He would make it a 10/10 and he has blatant artifact synergy. But of course that synergy is ETB: draw card and he's a 5 color pile, making the deck unbelievably slop.
>>98699667>No color swapped goblins.>No goblins at al other than some crummy prepared creaturesC'est la vie. Maybe because Jace didn't know the really old story guard, so he didn't think to remake them, or some other lazy excuse
>>98699667did they touch anybody from the weatherlight saga in this? (besides karn)
>>98700055Jhoria
>/edhg/ is always dead as fuck>reddit is reddit>discord is full of tranniesWhere the fuck do you go to actually discuss EDH?
>>98700094Mtgsalvation of course.
>>98700094You don't. This game is meant to be mindlessly consumed. If you think about it for long enough you start realizing that many issues could be fixed, but won't be because the playerbase is too retarded to accept a fix.
>>98700094/mtg-UB/
>>98700094small discord channels where only a specific commander is discussed.
>>98700094/edh/ isn't always dead what are you on about
>>98699740Mishra got name-dropped in Karn's bio, apparently he became the planeswalker in the mirrorverse
>>98700222That's cool and all, but well never see him since the echo verse is already dead
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