Inghilde edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98689335>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>4e Booksgofile.io/d/JXpc9g>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread Question:Rate the reveals
>the most magical cannons >the least decorated
>TQ>for AoS7 out of 10don't like the new infantry or the Velayan Gholems but everything else was good including the new Skink and Gacha models>The rest6 out of 10i don't care about paints but the TOW, Kill Team and Necromunda stuff was good
>>98695424>We never got models that actually matched the kino whfb concept artvgh...
Why are there so many niggers and women in AoS?
don't click if you're easily offendedthere are even more niggers and women in real life[/spoilers]
>TQI was bored. So thats probably not good. Ship was the most warhammery thing shown off, but damn man....STOP MAKING DAMN FACES, GIVE ME SOME FACE PLATES. I know people complain about stormcast helmets but its legit the best way to make your army memorable. Soulbnlight skeletons with that one slavic faceplate is more memorable than the blood knights to me because they still show their dumb teeth.
>>98695415Age of Sigma news. So well going through YouTube I just landed we saw age of Sigma the dolly are back new Fachtion announcement video.Anyone here got any links on YouTube videos for me to find out about the new not fire slayers not steampunk and not evil dwarves? And has anyone got a quote by Gotrek Gurnisson the Mortal rounds about this ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5w5HQuv-GQ
>>98695452You are experiencing a brain hemorrhage, call an ambulance.
>>98695424I'm convinced they made them more technologically advanced to bait whales into using them for 40k conversions.
>>98695452They were just introduced.
>High Kyngholy fuck GW stop with the Y's. He's just a king, no need to IP protect the concept of a king.
>>98695452>>98695415Age of Sigmar news: While browsing YouTube, I came across a new faction announcement video revealing that the duardin are back. Does anyone have links to YouTube videos with more information about this new faction that isn’t Fire Slayers, steampunk, or evil dwarves? Also, does anyone have a quote from Gotrek Gurnisson in the Mortal Realms about it?
>>98695467every time I see that shit I just remember the Kynhole pasta from votann
>>98695444Why would anyone want their toy soldiers to be women and/or niggers? Do autistic white guys really want this?
>>98695499No, nobody wants this.
>>98695499The average buyer of tabletop minis actually likes women and/or niggers and thinks it's neat. The femstodes release sold very well according to GW's investors report.
>>98695506>because its my fetish
>>98695424Man what the fuck were they doing with the chorf ones.
>>98695521r/Grimdank
That guy draws fast
>>98695535See just a simple change in shapes help the femgolems look better.
>>98695424Girth vs length
>>986955383d printers save us
>>98695467Ok that’s it. I’m having a melty
>>98695508I'm a right wing, white, straight male, living in a majority white country and I love female models. Why should I hate them? As for their skin colors - you don't need to paint them with dark skin and you can definitely do a better job at painting female faces than GW.
>>98695499I mean yeah I do like valkyrie/shield maidens in my faux-norse faction. The female lord is ironically one of the best models of the reveal. Don't really like em mixed in with the normal infantry though, leave that for elves.You can paint them whatever skincolour you like. >>98695508Well, not necessarily, the exact wording was that the models, "ever popular among hobbyists" were "received exceptionally well". Which imo leaves some wiggle room for them to be talking about visuals.Though probably they sold well, culture war handwringing aside.
>>98695562Every time someone says "you can paint them white", there will be someone who goes "uhh but dey sculpted dem with dark features" which is, *sometimes*, true, but it's basically only true for like 1/30 heads gw makes to have any dark features beyond a big nose
>>98695499>Do autistic white guys really want this?Way to out youself meximutt
>>98695471In short:during the age of myth dwarfs lived in mountain holds much like the dwarfs of the old world, they had 8 main ancestor gods, one tasked with looking over one of the realms and the dwarfs that would live therethen the age of chaos happened, shit hit the fan, and basically all of the mountain holds fellthe surviving dwarfs fled to azyr together with other races of order, becoming the dispossessedwhen the age of sigmar finally came, the dispossessed helped men build the new cities of order, conquer new lands, and reclaim the old landsafter long periods of seeming inactivity and lack of care for his people, the main ancestor god, grugni, began the process of recalling the dwarfs to himnow the dispossessed are no longer dispossessed, they're the khazalites holdsgazul is one of the ancestor gods and protector of the underworlds of the dwarfs, apparently he had a hand in hiding some of the refugees of the age of chaos toovalaya is another ancestor goddess, she was allegedly instrumental in casting down hashut when he betrayed the pantheon thorgrimm is now an ancestor god too, and he is the god of grudge keeping, obviouslyinghilde is the newest goddess, she's basically the patron of miners and explorers of the caves below the worlds
>fyreslayers merged into the larger Kazalite armyFyrebros.... we got deathwatch'd
>>98695508>>98695562The Dwarf Quyeen or whatever they call it is a good model though. The 'gholem of valaya' can be a 'gholem of grungni' or 'gholem of gazul' if you want it to be with the head options they come with. Even the handmaidens/whatever of valaya they can just be normal female dwarf nuns. The problem mostly comes from gw's own tone deaf painters who are like "nordic knight? paint him african for some reason" which has sent /tg/ into catatonic seething since 2015.
>>98695562Wait so this chick is a named character? The fuck?
>>98695599Yes, the last survivor of a dwarf hold.From the description I thought she was going to be bael-grimnir's daughter.
So where's the mounted magmadroth hero :)
>>98695613>the last surviI hate her already. Nobody writes that kind of backstory well anymore.
>>98695614Here
>>98695620It's par for the course with dwarfs, to the point fyreslayers have a generic hero model ro represent the last survivor of a hold.
>>98695614On vacation with the coatl, apparently.
>>98695632Infinietly better with him not actually surviving
>>98695614>>98695644>none of the cool shit we were promised happened
>>98695614I only remember the leak of the one we got WITH a magmadroth that had pics
>>98695653Don't worry. Spider any day now.
I'm really torn on this guy. On the one hand his weapon and especially his little droth ironfist thing are really cool, but his pose is just fucking awful I don't know why I hate it so much. The little gordita baby droth is fun but idk after 10 years I was expecting some more besides "okay they can stand next to the droth now".
>>98695670His jump frozen mid air makes it look like he's supposed to be standing on something, but there's nothing there. Pile of Ironjaw skulls from the skulls box might fix it
I hope the price jumps aren't something retarded, because i'm totally buying another Droth now that it's back in a Start Colecting box
>>98695535
>Bael Grimnir still irrelevant >Gholemkind retconned grim
>>98695614If you're going to bitch about rumourmongers not getting details right maybe try and actually read the details...
>>98695499Seems more like a brown thing
Dwarfbros... GW failed us all..m
>>98695562This is a great model. She has the plaits any dwarf woman should have and looks like a proper Lady. The top ones here piss me off because I can't actually tell if they're supposed to be women or shaved men. And I don't which option pisses me off more. Willingly shaved Dwarfs are anathema to Warhammer. And if they're meant to be women they're some of the ugliest female head sculpts GW has made in a while.The bottom ones are better because at least they're identifiable as women. Still inferior because no long plaits, but fine I guess.
>>98695415Amazing reveals, the most exciting of which was confirmation of the coming apocalypse as foretold by that new skink character... Battleworld next year!
>>98695562I don’t think are you
I would not be this mad if female dwarfs were actually cute...But if you also add n*ggers and ugly females then the army goes to hell.
Yeah, these really aren't doing much for me.The infantry feel way too animated for what I want from dwarfs. Everyone seems to be swinging shields around, throwing their arms up, or striking some exaggerated pose. I wanted them to look like a solid, disciplined shieldwall rather than a bunch of individual action poses.One of the artillery crew genuinely looks like he's wandered onto the battlefield in a dressing gown I'm also really not sold on the ranged weapons. The guns have this strange sci-fi/Halo look to them that just feels completely out of place to me.And the Valaya golems are probably the biggest disappointment. Compared with the original two-handed weapon versions they showed, these just don't land at all.There are bits I like, but overall I'm probably sitting at about a 5/10 on the range.
>>98695732In the end you can just use male faces for the infantry and the all female unit is not that bad, has some charm at least. The female golem is a bit lazy as well but overall I think this is a good release, no?
>>98695778>In the end you can just use male faces for the infantryWe can't be sure there are enough male heads for the whole squad, gw has been a dick about this before.
I always find it funny and weird when people complain about the skin tones of people who are clearly not even human so human ethnicities did not even apply to them. It's like Superman has to be white and I'm like dude he's an alien from a different planet he's not a white person when he's not even human to begin with.
>>98695798Or apply Earth’s genealogical and cultural context to fictional societies. And they never seem to understand the simple fact that this isn’t based on real life, so our historical context doesn’t mean shit.
Honestly I think Helsmiths have cuter women but thats only really between The champion for the gunners here, and the character on the bull mech. Aside from the characters new dwarfs have a single gem on the ship with the braids, but eh. I guess the khadron pirtates also have a cutie or two, but somehow the model is cuter than the art work for her. anyways thats enough foid rating. >>98695778its fine. I gotta say though im not collecting the army unless fyreslayers actually get something. I'd also prefer it if helsmiths got a vs box with khadrons than holds.
>>98695798superman may not be human but he's not a nigger, and neither are dwarfs
So, the Fyreslayers will no longer be their own faction and therefore won't have their own battletome anymore, right?
>>98695809helsmiths and khazalites really look like they were designed side by side.
i actually like the female dwarves but i wish there were less helmeted/hijiab heads. the ones sculpted with hair look good and dont look like little dwarf boys
>>98695732They definitely read like women to me, just horrendously sculpted imo.Shame because the dudes actually look pretty good, at least in the face. The beards help a lot, should've given the women fat german braids. Anyway, while I'm still not a fan of the infantry they at least look a bit better than in the blurry pics we had. Going from a 2/10 to like a 5, which is not great and I shan't be buying them but it's something I guess. I do like all the other stuff though. Especially the characters, they're great. I guess this release is like an anti-ogres in that sense.
>>98695812for nowmaybe they'll get one for themselves again when gw bothers with fixing their range, maybe they won't, maybe kharadrons will join them too eventually
If a video game company was asked by a game shop to create an Age of Sigmar IP video game and had to choose one of the four types of dwarves as the playable race or protagonist, which type do you think would be the best choice for players to play as?
>>98695837kharadronsthey are a fresh take on dwarfs, they exemplify one of the mortal realms, they have a branded look, they offer a plethora of weapons to have fun with, they have their flying gimmick for gameplay purposes, they mostly wear masks so they can have zero DEI bullshit
>>98695812Yeah, they are integrated into new tome Skaven style, rather than Orruk style. Which is great since you can just ignore all non-Fyreslayer stuff and keep playing like nothing changed at all.
>>98695837Start as a Khazalite and make choices to guide you down a path of one of the 4.
>>98695644I'm 80% sure boole just didn't notice the legs.He definitely loses points on the track record.
>>98695822I'm still not a fan of the armor in general. It looks weird, like it's too round I think. It almost looks a little sci-fi to me in a way I think because of all the roundness. And those little gut plates aren't doing them any favors either. The character models look better at least.Dwarfs aren't my thing anyway so I don't have much skin in the game for if they look good anyway.
I wonder if he'll have more bits.
>>98695875>Baby Coatl>Still no Coatl modelTepok cries
>>98695798Ehh, I can understand where somebody is coming from in a case like these where the faction is very clearly based on a specific culture (in this case faux-norse). In a similar vein to space wolves, where they're so over the top pop culture viking that it can be a little jarring.In both cases it makes perfect sense in universe both it just looks a bit odd.
>>98695885They would have been showcased.At best he's got a helmetless head, but I doubt it.
>>98695791They quite literally show it on the the page for them. And its been this way with the other dwarf factions too. >>98695798funny you mention that, I think some holds hold certain ethnics where others dont. >>98695819sorta, they were supposed to be mirrors. Helmsiths I think just had a more focused philosophy of being babylonian while being more cultured.
These will be the first GW Dwarfs I pass on. Impressive, considering I have Blood Bowl, MESBG, 40k, AoS and Fantasy Dwarfs.
>>98695909Helmsmiths are more Art Deco than Babylonian imo
>>98695898>>98695885being a fyredorfs fan must be humiliating
>drake heads on the throne>scale mantle>dragon heads on axes over the throne>horns/fangs in the crown>serpent with ram(?) horns on shieldSo I take it he has a thing for big reptiles. But they're clearly not magmadroths, so there must be a different angle for this guy.
>>98695909they haven't showcased 10 male heads and it's not been the case for helsmiths at all.
>>98695921They can be both, Maybe if they didnt have the beards or the sashes you could pass em off as simply that.
>>98695926it's a drakkar, anon, it's going to have dragon heads.
>>98695924>the marbled ornamentation in the crown and beardDamn that's good.
>>98695932>they haven't showcased 10 male headsLook at the article, you can see the difference in the bodies> it's not been the case for helsmiths at all.Aside from some select characters such as underworlds, it has in fact been the case. Hell you can stick heads from different kits to others. Ah but I think the Gong dude is monopose.
>>98695424Intricate designs on armor and artillery are for TOW dwarfs now. The ranges must be distinct
>>98695920I think you're lying.
>>98695956Ranges don’t need to distinct while custodes get the same kit for HH and 40k
>>98695926It looks pretty cool but painting marble looks intimidating. Any tips?
>>98695950>Look at the articleI'm looking, no confirmation that there are 10 male heads per kit, nor any showcase of 10 male heads in either kit.You cannot build the 2 chorfs' basic units without female heads either, at least one of the big-hatted models has to be a woman.
>>98695765>this strange sci-fi/Halo look to themTAHT'S IT! That's what they remind me of, the fucking covvie carbine.
>>98695960Because custodes aren't getting any 40k kit of their own anymore and their previous 40k kits are getting phased out in the foreseeable future.Meanwhile gw plans new models for tow dwarfs and aos dwarfs both.
>>98695957You are welcome to believe what you want, Anon.
>>98695977>You cannot build the 2 chorfs' basic unitsYou’re not being very descriptive of what you mean by the basic units. If you mean the champions you can have a male champion. If you mean the gunner champion, then you have a male option but he’s bald. Without a helmet.
>>98694960How did converting the razers save you money? Annoying having to buy them in boxes of 5.>>98695424I thought the new dorf artillery mogged the chorf's but seeing them side by side the difference isn't so big.
>>98696002>>98696002He’s sticking the leftover guns on the unit of 10 because of their modularity.
>>98696002what >>98696019 said, I got a giant lot for cheap and happened to have an extra 10 of the spear dudes.
>>98695990Post models or gtfo
>>98695893Now you’re making me really want something like this. In general Seraphon could probably benefit from more mythic units.>>98695837KO or Fyreslayers for sure.
>>98695995I've been very clear, the chorf basic unit should come with 10 hatted male heads for the melee one and 5 hatted male heads for the ranged one, they don't, bits are wasted on female bits.Even one of the shields is wasted on female iconography for absolutely no reason, in hashut's army.
>>98695979Heh
>>98695798Because it’s jarring and ruins the versimilutude of a settiny. When you see heavily gender mixed and racially mixed duardin. Your brain knows they are not human, and you register it (correctly) as the reason behind the diversity being extrinsic to the setting. Mandated from the outside, not coming from within. That denigrates the entire setting.
>>98695798Such a reddit line of argumentation. “They’re just le fantasy dude so make them look like afropunk somalian hippies as much as you want!”
>>98696034Lizardbros all want a Coatl. Hell it was what we all thought the Skink character was going to be riding instead of a really big Terradon. But I swear if it comes out one day and looks like this travesty I'm going to drop the moon on GW.
Dwarf lover here (here’s some painted MESBG dwarfs I have). I think the KH range is pretty bad honestly. Only the heroes look cool to me. The dwarf infantry ranges from bland to awful, and the artillery and gholems don’t do it for me.
>no other rumor engines are left
>>98696097>Spider that's never coming out>Some flavor of Ork>Necron
>>98696076These designs look cooler than what they revealed today
>>98696106The last one is a BL DEI sculpt they're too ashamed to get out.
>>98695598understandably so too
>>98695732>I can't actually tell if they're supposed to be women or shaved menThat's the point. People asking why they can't all have braids like the named character that actually looks good, but braids are feminine and feminine women aren't progressive enough. Not even trying chud out here but that's 100% why. Just think about how few feminine women GW does, outside of elves/eldar who don't count because even the dudes are feminine. And it's not just because they suck at sculpting the faces.
>>98696117Those novel tie in models are always odd. They put time and resources into them but then only sell them for like a month before they disappear forever
>>98696117>prominent black character as your book lead>for the traitor legion that's known for lies & subterfuge to the point they have no idea what they're doing but making things worse for everyone else
>>98696133The can be said about a lot of specifically AOS minis. Some kits are only around for a few years before being cut. I understand GW has problems with production and warehouse capacity, but they can't possibly be wringing all the value out of those very expensive molds by only selling some kits for 4-5 years.
>>98696136There's also the part where AL guys are supposed to look close to alpharius so having one black guy is weird unless they just forgot
wtf do I do with my sixty vulkites
>>98696170run them as clanshields
>>98696167One black guy who also HAS HAIR!
>>98696167>>98696188It's one thing to say other space marine chapters should all have "a look" like all the Wolves being white cuz vikings or all Blood Angels being Lestat pretty boys. Those can be generally true but really there's nothing that would logically stop them from being black or Asian because human colonization wouldn't have been mono-racial. But Alpha Legion's whole this is "I am Alpharius", where everyone in the chapter can pretend to be, and sometimes fully believe, that they are Alpharius. Which means they all need to look alike.So black Alpha Legionnaire is peak retardation.So GW is being stupid in a way they can't even excuse.
>>98696225I blame Mike Brooks especially.
Anyway, back to what AOS is really all about. When more?
>>98696286We don’t have any rumors about aelves
>>98695875Boole specifically called out tetaxi's mount for being more akin to a ripperdactyl, if anything this is another win for booleheads
>>98696303his mount is a fucking ripperdactyl
>kyngLolLmao
We used to have too many elf factions, now we have too many dwarf factions. When will humans get a second faction? (I'm NOT counting Chaos cultists)
>>98696327Makes me unreasonably mad. Why does GW need to name everything like fucking Fyrebourne™ Kyngmaeker™? It's obnoxious.
>>98696340You fuckers already ruined my faction, go play some other game.
>>98696341Couldn't copyright space marines, that's about it.
>>98696340What sort of human faction would you want that's not affiliated with the Cities?
>>98696365Chinks! No, spaniards!
>>98696188Honestly if he was bald people would probably care a lot less but the dreads really ruin 'the look' of a son of Alpharius because they are the baldest legion.
>>98696365Human cult of Nagash where they try and keep themselves alive as long as possible because they don't think they're worthy enough to join him in endless unlife
>>98696340Still waiting for order of the furrow as a subfaction for sylvaneth. Aside from that? Might as well just get some Japanese dudes as cringe as it sounds.
>>98696384Vampires
>>98696369Those are already in Cities
>>98696327>>98695467This is giving me super special tumblr oc flashbacks. I get they need to be legally distinct but come on, at least put some effort in.
>>98695852
>>98696392I was thinking more they become living mummies
Any need good fan Art of lizard man females yes? Yes I know it's super not canon .
>>98696038Nta but you can absolutely build the infernal cohort full male what are you talking about?
>>98696374Exactly.
>>98696416Hey :)
>>98696384>>98696365>inkan-themed mummy cult because doing egyptians would be reinventing the wheel
>>98695499Nobody actually want this but since it's been broadcasted that you're a good person if you accept it there people with not a single backbone in their body who will go along with it. Such extreme conformism is incredibly feminine and evil in nature.
>>98696429
>>98696441Image for ants.
>>98695499>Why would anyone want their toy soldiers to be women and/or niggers? Do autistic white guys really want this?Maybe it’s a woman playing the game, or a Black person, or even a Black woman—ever thought about that? Also, maybe they’re not obsessed with only male characters being super-powered badasses in a world where people can cut bullets or survive a gunshot to the head, yet somehow women—especially those with dark skin—are seen as incapable of the same feats.
>>98696429I'd pick that army up in a heartbeat
>>98696341>>98696363>>98696399It ain't about copyright, it's search engine optimization.Though in the case of a named character that seems pretty retarded
>>98695885Only good model in entire realise. Good job James, now can you hire somehow talented people? Skink hero is great.
>>98696461>Things are being named with SEO in mindI have no words. Something something end stage capitalism, something something death of art.
>>98696456>woman playing the game, or a Black person, or even a Black womanIts literally below 1%. You can check pics from tournaments and GW open days.Coloreds dont have frontal lobe developed enough to sit trough 12h painting little boots and shit.
>>98696429Imagine the fucking kinoA mortal death cult does sound like an interesting 5th faction for GA death.
Nice makeup, faggot.
>>98696498He is canonically trans
>>98696495Is that a fucking Dodo bird on the sides of the mouth piece?
>>98696499Oh shut up.
>>98696499I can see that being true behind the scene. That's exactly what one of those degenerate freak would do.
>>98696524Lmao what were they thinking?
>>98696524I saw someone on twitter say they're using Icebreaker from Destiny and now I can't unsee it
>>98696502Probably a pelican o algo
>>98696504take a chill pill dawg.
>>98696524I think I just noticed something else that I don't like about them. They kinda look like they belong on the Kharadron ships as crewmen but without any of the steampunk flair. Or maybe even a bit like Votann or like Imperial voidsmen on a ship. They don't feel like Dwarfs.
>>98696588>t.roon
PLEEEAASSEEE if they replaced vulkites and hearthguard with this basic armour design id pick up fyreslayers so quickly
>>98696456trying too hard and made it too obvious
>>98696563People still play that garbage? Jesus
>>98696654you know what, if the leaker was in the sprue packing department or something i could see how they think this was a cavalry model if all you saw was the unassembled sprues
How hard are the skink fliers to paint/assemble?
I've got a few questions. How important are the endless spells for Hedonites? Second, is sigvalds army any good? Third, outside of the gimmick in sigvalds army, is the contorted epitome any good?
>>98696729The lizard has large spines in the way of the dude sitting on him, and the dude in turn has his skirt and loincloth in the way of where the mount would go. It shouldn't take a Sherlock Holmes to figure out from the sprues that it ain't a cavalry model.
>>98696286Many are saying this>>98696225I mean I don’t think we know enough about human colonization to say whether that would have been the case or not, it could have been like Dune for all we know, but yeah agreed overall
>>98695973>inb4 another anon tells you to get an airbrush and some thin cotton mesh
>>98696755> How important are the endless spells for Hedonites? Like endless spells in general or their own faction spells? If your army can cast spells you probably want to bring them anyways just because their free, but if you're asking if you should pick their faction endless spell over the generic endless spells then I've only seen people run the hedonites endless spell rather than any of the other ones. Not sure WHY people ignore the generics, to me something like morbid conjuration seems better, but I guess the wheels and the mirror in particular lets them do stuff. >Second, is sigvalds army any good?To me it looks like the most fun, absolutely not gonna win you any tournaments though. >Third, outside of the gimmick in sigvalds army, is the contorted epitome any good?I dont think they're useless but they're not amazing and with an army like hedonites you really gotta min max your list.
>>98696225>Which means they all need to look alike.>So black Alpha Legionnaire is peak retardation.Are their melanchromatic organs broken? Because otherwise they should tan from "irish submariner" to "ghanan surfer dude" as the situation requires.
>>98696524>>98695926>>98695924>massively dissapointed by Chorfs>look forward to the new rumoured mountain dwarves>just as uglyWhy are they choosing the most muted and washed out color schemes for the new releases?Why are these dwarfs so fucking round and smooth? On top of being short, they just look like little silver meatballs.Why are they armed with super soakers and vacuum cleaners? Why do the fem-dwarfs have nun habits? Give them braids like the hero.And the golems look like Conquest modelsI swear they had it just fine in WHFB. At least they're generic enough that you can buy better sculpts from just about anyone.okay I think my kneejerk outrage is over
>>98696803>I swear they had it just fine in WHFBIt's because of WHFB. They wanted Dwarfs but visually distinct Dwarfs from WHFB Dwarfs (a core faction of TOW) to differentiate the range.
>>98696524If they wanted an unusual gun design they should've gone for wheellock
>>98696824saving that for the nippon rip off faction.
At least the new Dorfs still have that same kinda vibe as the old ones despite all the obvious DEI bullshit. Chorfs got fucked and look nothing like what they should have looked, and I'm still mad.
The Dark Mirror™ strikes again.
>>98696839Left is cis right is trans canonically
>>98696839Why the fuck couldn't they just do this armour for the basic infantry?
>>98696839Some of these sculpts feel like Stealth refreshes for TOW. Like
>>98696286I would really appreciate them just unfucking nighthaunt and obr.Death is likely relegated to npc faction status in both lore and gameplay. I reckon 5e is one more edition of tournament slop rules until they finally break and either go to a skirmish style game for aos or they actually write some fun asymmetric rules again for 6e.
>>98696885This is why I keep hoping next edition is death themed, also because the necroquake and surrounding events were probably the most coherent plotline in AOS history.
>>98696785>>98696755What does the Hedonite endless spell look like
>>98696839left has a stupid looking beard and weapon. yeah I get dwarfs are proud of their beards and it denotes status (or maybe it doesn't anymore since GW doens't seem to know either)Right side's head is just too fucking long and vertical. he already has this Bart simpson head, the beard just makes it worse.And I think giving him big puppy dog eyes was a mistake. His whole face is covered so the eyes need to be darker or shaded in to make him look tougher and. His hands and posture are really flat. Whereas the chorf has a big scowl and a hand that looks like it's going to crush something.The bear pelt is nice though.
>>98696885Ruleswise or modelwise? Rules I don't know shit, but as I understand Nighthaunt has sucked cocks for years. Models I can agree. Nighthaunt desperately needs something beyond bedsheet ghosts. OBR I don't know how you unfuck that but that's just because I hate their whole aesthetic in general. Maybe if they moved way further towards weird purpose built bone constructs instead of just making ugly guys.
>>98696524you guys are being retarded, those are perfectly fine Age of Sigmar: The Last World© Duardin© thrundok ryfles© they arent supposed to look like generic fantasy guns
>>98696524At least the variants actually look like guns
So in all the hubbub they previewed another seraphon spearhead I haven't seen much talk about yet.(Skink starseer, 3 terradons, 3 ripperdactyls, 13 (??) skinks)Is it me or does this seem fucking ass as a discount box? Aside from everything but the starseer being ancient, it seems like a very obvious stock clearance box, also doubling up on units never feels great. It's also a pretty meh discount at like 30% or so, and that's mostly due to the starseer being pretty expensive (though he is bulkier than you'd think on his little throne).Feels like it's be interesting in the game though. Lots of movement, those skinks are surviving jack shit but I expect some recursion.
>>98696456>Maybe it’s a woman playing the gameTip: trannies arent women
>>98696961I’d be fine with it if they didn’t give half of the skinks.
>>98696961>Aside from everything but the starseer being ancient, it seems like a very obvious stock clearance box,Exactly what it is. Sam Pearson, the former lead Spearhead designer said that sales dept dictated what was in spearhead boxes and they had to make it work.
Some Anons on the last thread kindly posted PDFs of the DOK and Ogor battletomes. Does anyone have a PDF of the Hedonites 4th edition battletome? That would finish it all up until the SOB battletome becomes avaliable.
>>98695651Whoa....He's SANS (Survivor After Not Surviving)...
>>98696969Baffling choice honestly. Couldn't risk giving out a full size 23 year unit in your discount box!
I was fucking around and swapped the heads on the two Valayan units, I kind of think they look better like this
>>98696995Can you try and put the character's braids on them? I think the alarielle hood kinda fucks them over.
>>98696961jesus christ this is even worse than the last one.I think OBR's 2nd and 3rd spearheads were pretty good. SBGL skeles and IJ are pretty good, Lumi and IDk aren't bad. The rest have just been Warcry surplus dumps before they officially kill it at the end of 4th. They've been so bad it's really kind of tragic.Glad I got the old ones while I could.
>>98696961>terradons>ancient
>>98696959I figured out why I hate these. They look like 40k voidsmen. They're wearing a metal carapace armor, but look like they're basically just wearing a jumpsuit underneath it. It's round and modern looking with none of the hard edge you'd expect from Dwarf armor.
>>98697011Yeah it's a real shame. Lots of double ups, especially on older kits. Reminds me of the fec one, at least that one was good value. Gw apparently makes 80% of the sales on a unit within the release period, so from a financial perspective it makes sense to use discount boxes as vehicles to up the sales on relatively older kits. But fucking hell, sneak some of the older ones in a box of newer miniatures, not the other way around. Like would a starseer + skink + skink cav ×2 be too much to ask for? Even gives you the double kit thing still. Splitting up the skinks is really insult to injury though fuck you shan't be buying.We got greenskin battalion'ed.
These new dorf models look like complete arse. Especially the nog female ones that look straight from amazons RANGZ DEM POWAH.Golems and the king look okay, if static as fuck.
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>>98697052Thanks anon, even shooped that already looks a lot better. Fucking braids man, when will gw learn?
>>98696967kek>>98696978im honestly tempted to just buy it myself at this point with how long it took to get those two
honestly i'd fuck the valayan guardians, that armour can barely contain their fat ass and tits
Valve owns the trademark to dwarves with guns so they had to change Leoric to Leafblower King
>>98697258>that armour can barely contain their fatFTFY
>>98695599Did you really think someone with taht model would be a generic lord?
>>98697306The Thrynn Kyngg model looks more impressive than her and is a generic, so it's not out of the realm of possibility.
>>98697311>KynggI understand its for copyright purposes but can't GW at least put more effort into this?
>>98695415Soon
>>98696117Well, that's the spear of Alpharius so it can be Alpharius himself.
>>98695467Cyng is the old Anglo-Saxon spelling, like Thegn for Thaneso It doesnt bother me as much
>>98697365no, it can't
so are all 5 fyreslayer players preparing their nooses? >SOUPEDDDDDkaradronchads winning yet again
>>98696803this is AoS anon, they will take everything you love and warp it into a grotesque mockery of what it used to be
>>98697360It’s not happening anon. He’s gone. Let it go.
>>98695979Good one
>>98696340>(I'm NOT counting Chaos cultistsYou should
i see the grogs are out in full seething forcesorry you guys only got half an army that looks like shit anyways. probably time for you to go right on back to playing TWW3 though. or, if you're an actual grog... well, probably just kill yourself at this point grandpa.
>>98697360You've gotten refreshed Tomb Kings coming so it's likely.
Why is GW fine with having 40k and HH models overlap but they're so against doing the same for AoS and TOW?
>>98697676I have a feeling they only did it for Custodes because some higher up told them they weren't funding two sets of molds for what is essentially the same faction so HH & 40k get joint custody in the divorce.
>>98697676HH needs all the support it can get tonot die, it even gets Underowrlds models now
>>98697676Says who? StD shares models. CoS shared models until a few months ago. It's a lie perpetuated by a fake leaker who has literally never been correct
>>98697478it's no big deal, they're souped like Ironjawz aka not at all we also got a new MALE model
So what was the Warhammer Quest news? Any word on the stupid blind boxes?
>>98697052NOOOO DWARFS CAN'T BE THIS FERTILE MY INCEL DOOMER MIND IS BROKEN!
can someone shoop horns onto the clansman helms?
>>98697714Heroes from the blind boxes will come in a single box with all of them.
>>98696499No, he just worships valaya because he is following his wife who died seeking reunification. He was a common dwarf with no ambition before she found him and recognised his heritage, but he remained unmotivated until news of her death reached him. He carries her shield and hammer, used the notes she left behind to find his crown and throne
>>98697708when is HH getting middle earth and bloodbowl models?
>>98697733just 4
>>98697708More like they negotiated to get daemons for HH and TOW(in the future) in exchange for Custards.
>>98697749I'm surprised they went with the crossbow guy and not the knight
>>98697787Probably to avoid overlap with the knight already in Darkwater.
>>98695875So what are your thoughts on this thing, lizardbros? To be perfectly honest I don't like it too much
>>98695810Except when he is.
>>98697805Uninspired
>>98695837kharadrons are the obvious choice, they're the most interesting dwarf faction and are distinctly not in whf or any other game. helsmiths would be the fan choice
>>98697805Given that it was the only new Seraphon model shown off it looks very by-the-numbers and bland
>>98697810>>98697826>we got this shit instead of Skink on a Coatlit hurts
>>98697834It's "3 units and 2 heroes" effect. It probably wouldn't be that bad if we weren't repeatedly told to expect more
>>98697843I didn't even read the rumors so I wasn't expecting anything and I still think it sucks
>>98696803The problem is, WHFB dwarfs look cool in the art as you show, but then you look at the models and they're unfettered ass.
So, those things are out already
>>98697858>gun more detailed than the new AOS modelsGrim.
>>98697879No need to lie, anon. The new guns are much more detailed, but the details are applied for a bad design.
>>98697709What models do StD still share with TOW? The chariot? Their overlap is almost eliminated
>>98696824>one of these but giantWould be kinda kino actually.
What's the tally of witch hunter special characters now while we still don't have a generic profile for one
>>98697927Cursed CityHexbaenand this.We have 5 name character models (3 if you don't count the fomo alt sculpt for Van Densts)
I don't know which army I should chooseI am a chaosfag and I am considering following armies:SkavenStDNurgleChaos DwarvesAny recommendations? Which one would be the most humiliating to lose to for Order factions lorewise?
>>98697955Skaven victories are always humiliating for the losers if you care about that, BUT you'll have to paint a lot of detailed models. If you want an elite humiliating army, then nurgle are the choice. They are stinky fat farters after all
>>98697955All those gys have new stuff, so it's kinda even there>Which one would be the most humiliating to lose to for Order factions lorewise?Chorfs aren't even real Chaos, so them
>>98697805For any other range it would be a revolutionary jump in quality.For lizardmen it's Tuesday.He's good, provides a character to build a flying list around, allegedly brings forward a neat cultural shift to lizards, and he's a loose update of a very old half-forgotten character, but he's not outstanding and lizards were waiting for some other stuff>updated skinks, guards, stegadon>larger sauropod dinosaur >coatl, either as unit or part of endless spells>special saurus character on larger theropod to stay on top of the size creep
>>98697955Nurgle has some absolute clowns and the models are easy and fun to paint in my experience, plus you get the enjoyment of being a stinky shitlord
>>98696303>Boole specifically called out tetaxi's mount for being more akin to a ripperdactylOnly after specifically calling it a coatl on a previous post Then making a post describing tetaxi's background and mentioning the coatl again, but being confusing about whether it's the same character or a different characterThen making a post saying tetaxi's mount is like a pterosaur, but more blessed by tepok, so technically it can be called a coatl of tetaxi wants it to be a coatland now saying a coatl is still coming >>98697346 ?
>>98695610I swear to fucking GOD
he died to save Dispossessed say his name
>>98698083he lives on in a better game
>>98695610they're really treating their customers like idiots that can't fucking mix paints don't they
>>98695610How does this work? Is it how many coats of the paint you need on a black base to get this shade?
>>98697927and the duo have an alternative commemorative too
>>98698087warcry is dead though :)>>98698093instead of having 5 uniquely named paints with varying classifications base, layer, etc for the same thing it's just X tone 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
>>98698095This one is fun because it has both a normal gameplay version and a diorama version. I'm baffled they don't do this more
>>98698099So they realized naming paints GLup shitto blue, Shit glupo blue, tEAlkien teal and Glup shito blue (LAYER) is bad and jsut went with Glup 1,2,3,4 so you can tell them appart better?
>>98698083He died to do nothing, actually.
I'm convinced there's still 4 dwarfs carrying the whole goddamn thing, trudging through the ground underneath it all.
I hate new paints.I went to the store recently to stock up on some basic shit i used on a lot of my troops only to find the base section has been decimated, replaced by a bunch of contrasts which are not the same shade. Now every new solider will be visably mismatched
>>98698125Yeah, a lot of the base paints will be Tone Pro paints now
>>98698125you should be switching to a different brand by the time you finish those gw pots you bought when you first got into the hobby
https://youtu.be/Ll7WmUHGlhs?is=U6CK6cYYAxSiXYKioh no no no AoS trannies got absolutely destroyed
>>98698105Yeah plus most of the names are for squatted shit nowadays
>>98698124Duardin ghosts
>>98698124Also GW could do the most frustrating thing ever by giving TOW dwarfs the unreleased steam tank, and so have the AoS range and TOW range schizophrenically divided on where they have industrial tech and traditional runic stuff.
>>98697478Speaking of, did they address vulkites getting axed (heh) at all on stream? In the article they're making a big deal about still using your fyreslayer stuff but then conspicuously never showing a vulkite model kek
>>98698150They didn't mention it at all. Some people will unironically go out and buy stuff about to be squatted after watching it kek
>>98698150Nope, zero mention.
>>98698138Buy an ad
>>98698148Look at it for fuck's sake, they're like two different factions.
>>98697805The design is pretty cool but the model is pretty busy idkAlso it bothers me how the skink looks like the has no way to actually hold on while this thing is flying. He should have on hand free.
Fyrebros I don't feel so good...>not just fucked over in rules and lore by losing their book but all magmaholds canonically failed
>>98698225he's perching with his strong skinky grippers and there's a handlebar in front of him for when he's not handling the weird egg
>>98698202No reason you can't use cheap TOW models as filler to stretch the valayan units out imo Shift it to 1 or 2/5 women to male ironbreakers/hamerers Unless sexism is actually heckin based if it's misandry
>>98695875>>98697966
>>98698238>strong skinky grippersDon't
>>98695415Interestingly, the hikikomori goddess is explicitly connected to miners, and grombrindal to rangers, yet neither got models, despite a ranger being the first thing we saw of this rangeclearly, they already have expansions planned for this range, with at least one unit for each of their god
>>98698240It's a valaya specific unit so it does make sense. The auric hearthguard are essentially the grimnir specific unit and they're all guys.Leaves the door open for more units based on the remaining five too which could be pretty cool. Gazul's swordbearers etc.>>98698259Oh that's cool. Proto tik taq to I take it?
>>98698274Flameseekers has women The king has valayan iconography It's just misandry.
>>98698274>The auric hearthguard are essentially the grimnir specific unit and they're all guys.yeah because all dwarfs were male back then, GW hadn't gone full retard yet. If they were to make that same unit today they absolutely wouldn't be.Same with KO, they were all male sailors.
what is it with AoS and gutplates?
>>98698295flameseekers are the newest Fyreslayer kit and they're mixed like everything else except the new female only dorfs
>>98698240>Unless sexism is actually heckin based if it's misandryGW has multiple openly misandrist factions, with khainites and eschers, so yes, to gw it's heckin based.
>>98698296The AoS team has completely given up on trying to design good armor so you only get gutplates and football(handegg) padding
>>98698296It's a convenient thing for hiding points of connection between bits, and it gives gw the spot for heraldry and symbols.In warcry all chaos bands have WWE belts with their brand on it.
>>98698300Yeah but that's a modern kit. They started shoving female dwarfs into the tomes starting with 2e but it took a while for it to happen to the models.
>>98695499My penis does
>>98698274>Proto tik taq to I take it?was a shaman instead of a chief, and tiqtak getting made didn't erase this minor character from the book, but if you want I'd guess he was the first skink character on terradon technically.
>>98698341I won't believe you until you post a video of yourself hotgluing this model specifically.
It sucks most armies basically only get 1 hero as an update in AoS, but it is amazing how good those single heroes can be. The Sylvaneth and now the Seraphon ones are crazy good. I think AoS may literally be the best wargame on earth for centrepiece models.
>>98698356Not like this...
>>98698356I mind these guys a lot less because they are literally dwarf matron warriors. They're like the dwarf equivalent of sisters of sigmar. Having the unit be all-female is lore-justified. It's a lot less egregious than forcing a 50:50 gender split in every single infantry unit.
>>98698372Anon, it's the same. You make up lore to reach the end result you want. You can't then use that lore to justify the existence of the end result. it's all made up.
>>98698388Right, but I don't mind>these are specifically warrior womenvs>coincidentally every unit in this army is exactly 50:50 men and women
>Kharadron guns are loaded with compressed gas that transmutes into metal slugs when fired>Helsmith guns are loaded with vitrified daemon flesh that is fired as shrapnel using energy from tortured daemonic essence as a propellantI'm guessing the Khazalite guns don't use gunpowder either. Might be using runes for combustion or something.
I fucking hate that they didn't give a fucking cavalry to the fucking fireslayersA fucking chariot would have fixed the entire range
>>98698271Did the old WFB dwarfs have an ancestor god of mining?I saw they kept Morgrim but not Thungi or Smednir, probably because they overlap too much with Grungi
>>98698372>They're like the dwarf equivalent of sisters of SigmarThe Sisters of Sigmar had plenty of cheese art and designs though
>>98698271Baffling this guy heralded nothing after the knight guy was just the new CoS unit
>>98698320They're just going to refresh hearthguard
>>98698432They got their pity hero as a last hurrah but make no mistake, Fyreslayers are marching to their graves now.
>>98698423TOW got the ranger sculpts
tempted to just get ironbreakers as my clanshields and use the clanshields and the irondrake bits to try and make not shit clangunners
>>98698452it would probably be cheaper on a per-model basis
>>98698138> IcewolfLmao at your faggot ass YouTube handle.Defo a 40s, bald fat man child.Might as well kill yourself
>>98698452it will probably be way easier to use the old bodies for the irondrakes than try to match the arms and heads onto the new bodies when it comes to arms holding a weapon across the chest
>>98698284Hence hearthguard and not the flameseekers>>98698295I mean obviously but it still works out
>>98698124I really do not like how it looks like he's got to stand up, walk down the stairs then over to the edge to hit people, then over to the other side to hit people over there. At least Thorgrim can kinda just lean over and swing his axe.
>>98698423If you can't see the pattern yet, you are literally retarded Everything is designed at once, and then they split the release into two waves, with a few heroes to pad out the third release.They did it with Lumineth. They did it with CoS. They are doing it with Helsmiths. They did it with Cathay.
>>98698544They actually only do it if the first wave sells. See Idoneth.
>>98698544Where are the rest of my fec
>Hashut - Ghur>Inghilde - Ulgu>Gazul - Shyish>Thorgrim - Azyr>Grimnir - Aqshy>Valaya - Ghyran>Grungni - Chamon>Grombrindal - HyshWe finally have the full account of which ancestor gods were allotted which realm.
>>98698573>azyr is soon getting fuckedgod damn it
>>98698532>At least Thorgrim can kinda just lean over and swing his axehe was ridiculous to imagine as well, lets be real, people had to fall onto him for it to make sense
>>98698573wait, if they had an ancestor god overseeing azyr that must have meant they would have had kingdoms in azyr, but previous dispossessed fluff implied every dwarf that was in azyr was a refugee of the age of chaos, and forced to live alongside humans and such.if they had kingdoms they would have been refugees into those kingdoms, wouldn't they?
>>98698508once I get the kits I'll try to see which one fits better
The release is as bad as people is trying to make it look or is just ToW brigade?
>>98698620There's a visible disconnect between the basic units and everything else >>98698202
>>98698612I think it's more about a wind of magic, not physical location
>>98698642It's referring to the realms. The gods agreed between themselves that they were each to take a realm as their domain. It's part of why Hashut resents the others, because he wanted both Aqshy and Chamon but had to settle for Ghur.
I find it a tad funny how in WHFB, the Dwarf Gods are technically both natives and younger than many other species gods due to being made for the setting instead of a survivor of the previous setting. And by being new survivors of WHFB, this means they're technically some of the oldest non-Chaos gods or characters altogether besides Slaan.
>>98698620Who knows? We've been raided by TOW pretty much daily at this point. You can't really tell what's a genuine AoS players opinion and what's a TOW baiting.
>>98698681I guess
>>98698620Is shit you have a bunch of females and n*ggers in what was supposed to be the dwarf army resurrection
>>98698700Fucking up the armors and guns is way worse than the dei quota here.
>>98698573For me, it's Inghilde.
>>98698700>dwarf army resurrection ???? we had two dwarf armies already?
>>98698681This got me thinking about who is the youngest WHFB survivor. I guess it must be Thanquol. Morathi and Malerion were 7k+ years old by the End Times. Slaans were even more ancient. Nagash (as well as Arkhan, Neferata, etc.) was also few thousands years old. Even Mannfred has been around for a while. Then there's Tyrion and Teclis that were about 300-400 years old. Alarielle was way older than the Tetris brothers. Thorgrim was also older than them. Sigmar had more than 2,5k years. That leaves who? Gotrek & Thanquol and I'm pretty sure Thanquol is younger than Gotrek.
>>98698722dwarfs BUT steampunk, dwarfs BUT slayers, dwarfs BUT evil, aren't THE dwarfs period.
>>98698739what is THE dwarfs, scholar anon? can you define it for the class?
>>98698227More like “Born of Lame” lmao
im more than a little bummed we didnt get this guy in this posehis actual pose is fine, a bit boring but its okay, but this would have been way better
>>98698227I'm fucking sad they killed the whole faction just because the first wave (that is the only the army ever got) was not so good... Is really another mistake on GW's account.
>>98698356i like the shieldmaidens, those helms are just a bit too goofy. the other ones are better. but shield maiden/valkyrie fits dwarf themes perfectly. honestly if you just cut off the buns and replace them with horns it would be a pretty good helmet for a helga themed unit. they've got the bust, unlike a lot of the other mixed dwarf units which are androgenous (likely just for ease of headswaps)but given what i've seen people do with sisters of battle, im not going to judge a GW sculpted face until i see it done by someone who can actually paint. their studio painters are notoriously bad at painting women
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>>98698757Can you not flip flop between being disingenuously dismissive and disingenuously pedantic?
>>98697805I like it. The only thing that bothers me is the little skink heads at the top of the staff. I don't like them, they should be serpents.
Just learned about the Last World rumors. Does anyone here believe it? Sounds like complete bullshit to me. And if it's real, it'd be the single most stupid decision GW has ever made since, ironically, the End Time. They've seen how much people hated the End Times, why would they want to essentially do it AGAIN?
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>>98698573kinda cool>>98698620like the other guy said it’s hard to tell what’s genuine and what isn’t at this point
>>98697805its kino, i love skinks
>>9869780510/10. perfect. unfortunately going to outshine the older dactyl rider models really hard and make them show their age, except for the mini ones in the chameleon skink set which have more modern poses and no shitty plastic rods.definitely gonna get it though, its nice to see a skink character with some swag
>>98697809>Man of Steal
>>98697957skaven are stupidly numerous though so it makes the most sense to lose to them
>>98698363More like this???
>>98697721… what?
>>98698791It's real, some details might be simplified compared to what we're actually going to read, but it's real and it's happening next year.>whythe minis are liked, the game is liked, the setting has failed to take roots into the wider warhammer fanbase, both in terms of popularity and in terms of genuine knowledge and understanding of it, and the writers as well have shown to be more comfortable and more capable at handling a smaller and more interconnected setting with more familiar scales, numbers and powers, than the endless potential sandbox with genuine gods and country-sized monsters set up at its inception.So GW has undergone the gradual process of adjusting the aim of what it produces, in both models, atmosphere and stories, is "fixing" what are generally considered lacunae and errors of the setting's launch (lack of normal humans and normal dwarfs, fatcasts, to name egregious ones), but the final part of this process is cutting off and leaving behind all the unused, or badly used, vastness and weirdness of the mortal realms, and this has better chances of happening with an apocalyptic development than a technical retcon.I also believe gw feels that by giving aos its own end times some of the sentiments about "aos killing fantasy" might end up feeling repaid, and no longer moved onto the setting, which would hopefully have a cleaner reputation.another reason for doing it, and doing it now in particular, is that warhammer is on the cusp of even wider popularisation (with tv series, secret level animations, videogames), and changing the setting so it's better received because more familiar and easier to grasp to this influx of complete newcomers seems like a sound strategy.
>>98698573>8 realms>8 ancestor gods>>Mhm Yeah just give me both aqshy and ghurWas it autism?>>98698681I've heard this implied pre-whfb cycle mentioned before, is there actually any meat to it? My knowledge of whfb's early myth is basically limited to "cold, dragons, dragon ogres".>>98698791Some believe it's real, some don't. I think the writing is one the wall though with even new reveals hinting at shit (idoneth tome, this new tetaxi guy, ...)That being said I don't think it's going to be end times tier though. More like gathering storm.
>>98698853in practical terms it sounds like not that much will change, basically noone with up to date models dies for good, the ranges stay, and even the maps and locations of the realms that we have actually explored seem to be bound to survive, just slightly displaced or cobbled into continents of one world rather than continents on 8 separate worlds.to someone who gets aos, this sounds nonsensical, but they will all keep buying the stuff, while to someone who doesn't get aos, which to gw is an ocean of potential customers, this may be what will make it click into place.
When did the Skaven and Bull dwarfs genocide the Fyreslayer capital that happened in a campaign?
>>98698341Too bad the setting is near completely absent of BiWiSi bait like this.
>>98697676Could it be because AoS and TOW are separate settings that they’re so anal about it?
>>98698858Now they will pretend like there aren't infinite distances between everything and that everything moves at the speed of plot. Much like how there are as many Elves or Empire villages as WHFB stories demand, and how 40k invents new planets to be destroyed as backstory, now they will pretend there are defined boundaries here.
I just realized that the Fyreslayer holds of different realms probably aren't on active volcanos because not all realms have active volcanos.
>>98698271if it isn’t tomoko I don’t want it
>>98698791It’s not going to be another End Times so we’re safe in that regard. That said, who knows what in particular might get the axe. It could very well be a spiritual one if they do too many retarded things.
>>98698392>>98698372I kind of get what you mean but at the same time having a fighting force made up wholly of women feels like it’s coming from the same place at this point. At least with stuff like DoK that kind of thing is on theme (though not always even then).
>>98698681that’s a neat parallel honestly kind of makes me wish they talked about it more or explored what that’s like for them
>>98698853>>98698858Meh. Personally, I don't mind the cosmic scale of current AoS even if admitedly only a small fraction of the realms ever gets detailed. Motre importantly tho, it'll ruin the whole lore surrounding the Realmgates. I mean, being a city on two sides of a Realmgate is the whole point of Hammerhall.
>>98698893Also that if one part falls the other immediately is going to
>>98698854>is there actually any meat to it? My knowledge of whfb's early myth is basically limited to "cold, dragons, dragon ogres".fimir have recently been confirmed as pre-old ones creatures too. the equatorial areas were warm enough to already host jungles and dinosaurs and lizard humanoids with their own culture, the saurus were made from them, and the cold ones are cousins of those troglodytes. there were other races in the world but the slann and saurus exterminated them because unfit for their plans. one gotrek&felix book mentions a mutated last survivor of a race of enormous insectoid things that used to mind control primitive humanoids, and primitive humanoids have been said to have existed before the old ones arrived, as they didn't create the races from nothing but uplifted these beings. malekith recovered his crown from a ruined temple-tomb complex of one such group of long dead ancient humanoids that to him looked like neither human, dwarf or elf, but with traits of all of them. the necromancer-sorcerer drachenfels was once a primitive humanoid that saw the arrival of the old ones and developed on his own a way for unnatural immortality because he was built different. one end times book has a paragraph spoken by some of the elven gods that outright say that the elves as a whole predate the world and come from another world also destroyed by chaos which in turn was just the last of a cycle of such events, with the elven gods being the children of the 2 survivors of the elves of the previous world and their plan on this one was to set up the new survivors that would father the pantheon, and the race anew in the next world; but everyone ignores that paragraph as nonsense.giants are at times said to have been created, at other times sky titans were said to already have been a thing. pygmies were technological advanced aliens that crashed on the world before the arrival of the old ones and reverted to a savage status.
>>98698900the moon used to be livable and inhabited, but the only and last survivor of one race that lived there is the cathayan's empress of which we don't know the real looks of because both her human and dragon aspects are stuff she learned to shapeshift into.
>>9869767640ks are losing the older (and in my opinion, better) custode models so it’s not exactly sharing a range more so forcing it onto one another. I don’t think tow or Aos players would want to share stormcast.
>>98698903Nu-lore- ignore.
>>98698893>>98698899I mean realmgates will still be around, it's just that they won't be the only (practical) way to travel from point x in realm a to point y in realm b. They're still portals, making them still insanely strategically important.
>>98698912Sure, but we already had a suggestion that there was life on the moon because belakor waged a war of conquest on it, even if at the time of writing it might have been outposts of the old ones.
>>98698900One thing I'll always praise AoS for is dodging this autism. The fact the TOW core book opens with the objective fact that everything was created by ancient aliens instead of letting it be an unproven theory in the background is wild. WHFB fluff is pure wikislop
Speaking of elven gods, do the daughters of khaine care about them at all? Or are they pure khaine 100%
>>98698900>pygmies were technological advanced aliens that crashed on the world before the arrival of the old ones and reverted to a savage status.Source? Sounds like some big time damage control depending on when this was said lmao
>>98698940Yeah, the Khainites thought he was the only living god but still worshipped the others. DoK is currently in a civil war because a real living god has reyurnef6
>>98698937Every mythological statement in aos gets considered factual by autists anyway, and every factual word-of-god statement gets considered dubious by the real austists.For example the existence of humanoids and dinosaurs suggests the world might have already beed visited or seeded in passing by the old ones long before their recorded arrival and full-blown geoengineering work beginning onto the world, because 40k established that humanoids and dinosaurs are signatures of the old ones' handiwork.Now, I'm not going to pretend that I don't enjoy it when a book has an unreliable, incomplete and immersive way to introduce things, but I still need what gets said to slot into place one way or another.
>>98698302>>98698284It’s lame but it’s nothing new for them at this point they’re just more bare faced about it at best now
>>98698937>>98698962The world was created from Nagandra biting his tail
>>98698945If it wasn't their introduction, it was close enough and their only real exploration as a thing in the setting.white dwarf 100, the one-shot rpg scenario the floating gardens of bab-elhon or however it's spelled.
>>98698979This is a retcon for WHFRP that came out years later
>>98698962>Every mythological statement in aos gets considered factual by autists anyway, and every factual word-of-god statement gets considered dubious by the real austists.I cling to my schizo idea that the post age of myth "hashut" isn't actually the same entity as the ancestor god, but essentially some warp entity pretending to be him to siphon power from chorf worship like morathi did/does with khaine
>>98698608What do his animations look like in Total War? Everyone riding a monster just waves their magic weapon around while their mount does all the fighting, I know that
>>98697025It bears repeating but this is just fantasy Votann
>>98698435Retard
Age of Sigmar
>>98697025
>>98698555Yeah I'm sure GW designed, printed and distributed an entire 2nd wave of LRL models within 6 months of releasing the first one because sales were good, retard. The point is that for bigger armies, they don't release everything all at once. IDK didn't get a second wave because GW already released everything they had in the first wave, like with most 1st edition new armies. If you track down the old Stormcast podcast from around the time IDK released, they straight up admit this, that they don't have anything else in the works for IDK for the forseeable future.
>>98698620Most genuine responses seem to be positive. The basic troops/gunners are the only thing that seem generally disliked. Anyone crying about Valayan Hearthguards being women is already outing themselves as being retarded.
>>98699003>>98699052Essentially. At first glance I mostly liked them, but the more I really look at them the more I hate them. You might as well just buy TOW Dwarfs if you want to run these guys because they look leagues better. Hopefully GW doesn't fuck up their refresh when that eventually comes.
>>98698858I prefer the /tg/ maps
>>98699002>What do his animations look like in Total War?Magic shockwaves
>>98699063it seems the criticism is more that they’re fat and ugly and… you know
>>98699052Kharadron mogsSeriously though, odd choice to do the cloth with loose metal armour over top design AGAIN for these guys. The characters look a lot better.
Fun detail i found assembling the new mortis reapers: the champion seems to have eyes literally at the back of his head
>>98699111>fatI mean they're dwarfs, they're built stocky. Can't say I understand this complaint.The other two yeah whateverDo think it's funny they painted essentially the entire range white except for these hearthguard which are like overwhelmingly blackWhat did gw mean by this?
>>98699116Kino
>>98697025Maybe some of the disappointing models GW has put out since the 40k blood angels refresh, and the worst since...? >>98699052The kharadrons are definitely better and even the votann model is significantly better than these new shitty dwarf gunners... Fuck my chud life
>>98699194the ironbreakers/irondrakes kit will solve all your problems
>>98699194>Maybe some of the disappointing models GW has put out since the 40k blood angels refresh, and the worst since...?Ooh that's a bold claim. I think you might be right though. Nothing else is sticking out in my mind as having been as bad in the last few years. Is this the biggest L AoS sculptors have had? The only thing comparably as bad I can think of is Kammandora's Blades, and that was thankfully only a warband.
>>98699229except the problem of dwarf handgunners
Talking about Fyreslayers in general here, even though it's a bit annoying that they're being diminished for the sake of KH, they will probably actually end up selling better than they ever have since their initial release, and that'll be good for the long term prospects. Fyreslayers have had to deal with a weak initial release, 10 years without any significant new waves for people to buy into, and several years of the absolute worst spearhead. Despite that, they've managed to hang on with a pretty dedicated core playerbase and a slightly surprising trickle of new players.With KH, they get an actually good spearhead finally (and the only non-fomo spearhead available for the army) and a wave of new players buying into the new dwarves, who finally have a reason to pick up a few Fyreslayers to round out their army. Even if they just buy the spearhead, which contains the entire range except a few heroes anyway, it'll amount to a big sales boost for Fyreslayers. Basically, even though it sucks now, I think Fyreslayers will be in a much better place long term. According to Boole, FS's are getting a special Path to Glory book as part of the EoE campaign, so it's not like GW is ignoring them in the lore, either.
>>98699052Amazing how the entire faction is basically tanked by how shit their infantry is. The heroes, artillery and golems are actually kinda neat.
>>98699280Me when the sky isn’t falling
>>98699229Yes, in that the solution to the problem is continuing to expand my old world dwarf army and not getting into AoS dwarves. Unfortunate though because I generally agree with >>98699280 that it's just the core infantry letting the army down. At a minimum I think I'll pick up the thane and runesmith to use them for old world.>>98699233I saw a comment of one of the dwarf announcements of a guy saying "the aos sculptors literally can't miss" lol
>>98697861Kenzo? So there IS fantasy Japanese people in AoS?
>>98698791No not really. It's one guy spamming it. At best if it is real, which you gotta really take with a pinch of salt, I'd say it won't be like End Times but just a shift in setting. No more realms but one big world again.
>>98699335He does have slanted eyes.
>>98697805Skink looks great, pterodactyl is in a neat pose. But I hate named characters.
>>98699068The move to true scale fucks dwarves over.
>>98699233At least no one had any expectations from a random underworlds warband>>98699280Reverse ogres
>>98698858I'm still confused as to all the concepts about TLW, yeah it's usually just some guy trying to get a reaction BUT I keep spitballing all the variations in my head.It's gonna be a massive timeskip, but all the named characters will remain. Status quo andfactions will be changing, but factions will have all the same units and play the same. All the realms will be gone, but all the realms will just be on the planet. It's supposed to be a death edition in the cycle, but the launch box is beaslaanevestodarkness. Also the whole "gods will be gone" bit makes even less sense UNLESS this world sucks up all the shit and the gods are basically left in the OG realms to tend to. So now the realms are the heavenly harder to get to part and there is a set planet where everyone is fighting over for land. (Also with the realms being gone the eight points becomes completely irrelevant since portal-ing somewhere means dickall) I'm still under my own idea that Sigmar has been building his own little arc planet in Azyr, basically just a thing he can work with the Lizardmen to shoot out into space and get people away from chaos to exist independent of the realms. But the Skaven show up and he has to launch it early before archaon kicks the door into Azyr and they do the big anime fight.
>>98699491Not really because the new thane is essentially a perfect dwarf model, I wouldn't change anything about him. They just made a series of very poor design and design philosophy decisions when they were making the warriors and gunners and arguably some of the others too.
>>98699533 (me) I meant to say "not necessarily" not "not really"
>>98699502>But the Skaven show upBasically the entire plot of of AoS in five words.
>>98699533>put a crown emblem on his crownit's a nitpick, but it's kinda stupid
>>98699554Nagash should have just been allowed to kill everyone. That would have solved this shit.
>>98699533I agree I like him but... there are so many stupid decisions and awful designs across all the range as you say that pollutes all the good things the dwarf release did in the end.
>>98695415Inghilde is cute!CUTE!
What are Gholems of Thorgrim gonna do? Get buffed everytime a unit on the field is killed or an enemy takes an objective?
>>98699502What if the last world is the result of Chaos/Archaeon trying to drag the realms into the eight points? So a chunk of each realm gets fused into planet eight points, but the greater realms exist and that's where the armies come from like daemons came from chaos wastes.
Every last last world theory or explanation is more nonsensical than the last one
>>98699649Oooooo actually shit that makes sense.... Then it would have more of that post apocalyptic vibe to it. You could also have every be dragged away and maybe unable to reconvene with the realms too with that! Then you time skip so they all have pseudo societies set back up again but are living in a much shittier place. But then the realms continue on as normal.>>98699658to be fair, the concept itself is pretty stupid so it's just trying to wrap your head around it.
>>98699658The idea of going from planet to norse worlds back to planet is stupid and nonsensical to begin with.
>>98699533Heros are not a good measurement of this. To an extent they have more leeway while troops are left to ensure they are optimized for their sprues, its why the female dwarves dont have braids in the troops.
>>98699502>Also the whole "gods will be gone" bit That's not a thing. That's never been part of the rumors outside of Sigmar specifically.
>>98696828I don’t understand. What should they have looked like?
>>98699700See I always forget how this shit goes but I thought there was some bit about like the gods not being around or some shit. (Basically just Alarielle and Nagash since I'm assuming as the 2 main playable ACTUAL god models they'd be the most relevant)
>>98697025Maybe I need to watch Boss baby more because I don’t see it they look just like KO units
>>98699708Like they do in total war!
>>98699608>>98698721>>98698271>>98695415>>98698878we love our cute dwarf loli goddess don’t we folks
>>98699665>>98699649This is definitely the best idea. Leave the realms alone, at this point they’ve become a cornerstone of the setting, they should only be looking to remix and add things rather than taking anything major away
>>98699709>but I thought there was some bit about like the gods not being around or some shitNope. There are in fact a few blurbs indicating that some gods are active and nothing claiming otherwise. Even with Sigmar being gone he can apparently still work miracles and shit, so not much changes there either. Mostly it's just an excuse to make Stormcasts more like Space Marines.
>>98699159those dwarves are definitely a good bit more than stocky though
Whats everyones favorite dwarf infantry models? Proxies included.
>>98699643either absolutely nothing because there are not going to be any ever or grugni and grimnir share the multikit of a way larger gholem and then one build is inevitably going to have 2 axes, while the other would have hammer and shield.
>>98699782Tie between thunderers and arkanaunt company.
>>98699782Hobgrots
>>98699782avatars of war's rangers
>>98699831I heard those were pretty low quality PVC and gapped/badly cast.
>>98699808Kharadron are so cool.
>>98699831and mom minis
>>98699533I'm going back and forth on the melee infantry honestly. I go between man what a disappointment to eh they're actually not that bad. I actually like the bearded faces, the weapons are pretty well done. There's stuff to like, it's just ehhhhh it could've been better man. I wonder how hard it's be to sculpt on a mail "skirt" or whatever that's called like the thryng here has.
>>98699864>every single new GW model is just pajamas with a breastplate or somethingThey've just completely given up on armor
>>98699841yeah they're neat. im also partial to the Rackham line, they're a bit vulgar but in a charming way. They're defintely different from warhammer dwarves though, which to me is a good thing, too much of the same thing is a cancer. Though I'll be honest, im only judging the Rackham Tir-Na-Bor dwarves based on their asthetics, never read their lore.
Last World will be the End
>>98699880Rostswords were such a weird fluke
>>98699858I am eyeing that wholf Dwarf and Forest dwarf range and I'm so close to just pulling the trigger, only problem is I've got ironbreaker, irondrakes, the gyrobomber and three heroes which I really like, so right now I'm leaning towars Ymir instead Love MoMminiatures though.
>>98699945Bro your gallants? Your grenadiers?
>>98699945Chaos warriors get full plate, it’s just the law. But yeah for other factions it seems like full plate can’t even given to elites, but rather just characters. I’m eyeing you, idoenth.
>>98699643>>98699797So are these gholems supposed to be ancient ones from the khazalid empire? If so, are there gholems of hashut?>life/death - valaya/gazul - axe+shield/two handed hammer>fire/metal - grimnir/grungni - dual axes/some sort of runic cannon bullshit>light/shadow - grombrindal/inghilde - two handed axe/warpick>heavens/beasts thorgrim/hashut - ???Gazul's golems should've had swords desu
>>98699715What?
>>98700007>If so, are there gholems of hashut?were, probably defaced themselves or defected with him
What armies completely prop up all of AOS, or at least their GA, with their designs? I think it's Nurgle, Soulblight, Lizards, Gloomspite, Skaven, and FEC. I want to also say COS but I'm a little wishywashy on the standard Freeguild guys.
>>98700040Stormcast do more work than CoS who only have a few unique minis standing out.
>>98700054But Stormcast suck balls. Even the newer models are just less shit than the old fatcasts.
>>98700059They still have more eyecatching designs.
>>98700040>>98700059Stormcast prop up the game by being 5 times overrepresented in usage comapred to the expected avrage for a faction
>>98699722Only if she's shy and won't leave her room (cavern) and hates the world.
>one IDK novel>a single novel >one >has a namarti becoming royalty what
>>98700068Yeah, you try stoating around in half a ton of gold and try not have people looking at you.
>>98700082They have some short stories too, but yeah it’s rough out here for fish lovers.
>>98700040I think your list is pretty spot on. Even the groggiest of grognards seem to like gloomspite for example. I'd add nighthaunt, shit convinced that onr megagrog outer circle guy from horus heresy to try out sigmar. Also apparently blanche's favourite faction.There's also a few other standout models which I've heard praise of even from people who don't really like aos. The light if eltharion comes to mind. Back in 1st edition I also heard a lot of "I hate age of sigmar but that fish elf water cape guy is really cool"
I know this is old news but I literally just noticed it because I was looking at them. GW really simplified the hell out of the Blightkings with the refresh. No open wounds, all draped in cloth, all pretty much using the same body. Just overall less nasty than the old ones.
>>98699782I don't know if I'd say favorite, but I'm quite fond of Warcrow's Dwarves. Really love the hero with the anvil shoulders.
>>98700082IDK should share the same destiny as Fyreslayers. We don't need that many flavors of elfs.
>>98700100Hmmm yeah. They need to be grosser.
>>98700100They're essentially a different unit using the name of the old one desu. The blight templars from darkwater feel more like what a blightking refresh would actually look like.That being said I do prefer the look of the new ones. Horrendous downgrade in customization aside.
>>98700100>>98700136Boy, do I have some news for you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXuM2tFraUI
>>98700136The Templars being one of the units not sold separately is also a travesty
>>98699942of the shitposting true
>>98700096I thought about Nighthaunt. I like all of their models individually and I don't think a bad looking one has come out. But they all look so samey I decided against it. As a whole it's just spooky laundry day: the army.
>>98700116Very cool, definetly more fantasy than WH so would actually fit kinda well with AoS
>>98700150Yeah I agree. Figure they felt they were redundant with the actual blight kings but a bit of a shame. Make for decent proxies I guess, if you can find some doubles.
>>98700082She's just a consort and her marriage to Lurien secured him the support of her akhelian parents. The calculus would have been the same even if she were akhelian herself.
>>98700040undivided, skaven, sylvaneth, lizardmen, stormcasts, gloomspites, soulblightseverything else is small by comparison
>>98700218>slaves, skaven. sylvaneth, seraphon, stormcast, sulblightThe obvious conclussion is that people love the letter "S"
>>98695499I don't understand the weird complex that people here have about racial demographics in modelsI don't get why it has to be a psychological evaluation if you paint a few different skin tones in your squad for variety's sake
I hate when people do that thing where they pretend not to understand what people are saying and strawmanning it.
>>98700116Not a fan of these but the Warcrow range overall has some stunning models. Love the mounted knights.
>>98700267Well that's me trying to be charitable and pretend that there's an explanation that isn't just the obvious one
>>98700258Because some people are freaks who have to see any inclusion of anything that's not a white guy as "politcal". When it's a fucking fantasy setting where the world is composed of 8 flat planes and there's no actual demographics really native to anywhere. It makes sense to be mad about it in Fantasy where there's set and well known geography and inspirations, but not in AoS where for all intents and purposes it can be as cosmopolitan as 40k.The real problem is when the models are just ugly like those allegedly female Dwarfs.
>>98699764Thiccness is a blessing from Valaya.
>we got dwarves before dark elves I can understand orrucks but holds just makes no sense. Gromnindal better be a tease to malerion or something.
Basically every Warhammer army release turns into a big circlejerk of people spamming about how much they hate the models and how it's gonna be a huge flop, then it comes out and sells a billion copies and after a couple of years no one even remembers any of the complaints people had because it's completely normalized.After watching the cycle enough times it becomes impossible to take it all seriously.
Is the Seraphon book the last tome now that the Fyreslayers are dead?
>>98700348>Is the Seraphon book the last tome now that the Fyreslayers are more alive than ever?Yes
>>98700335I don't remember anyone complaining overmuch about the Vampires' boney boys release. Couple of mutterings about spaghetti hair and over-armoured Skelets at worst.
>>98698202They are two different factions you fucking faggot
>>98700397NTA but I very much remember people bitching incessantly about wolves, the centaur vampires, and the hair
>>98700462The hair is a legit complaint. It's spindly, has practically no detail to it, and it's a bitch to paint. The bitch from Crimson Court has awful hair that would have been better if it was more solid with carved details instead of long spaghetti strands. But that's more of a model paintability issue than how it looks.
>>98700462That was all before the rattlers.
>>98700482For something that’s an easy scissors and green stuff job it didn’t require the level of bitching we got
>>98700311dark elves had to suffer because they were way more heavily caught up in the backtracking of slaanesh's execution
>>98700547This is my favorite conspiracy theory. It shows how creatively bankrupt the community is
>>98700073>>98699722What would she smell like
>>98700100In general I feel like Nurgle got pretty sanitized. It’s like they don’t want to put in the effort to make him truly grotesque anymore>>98700116What’s the big guy on the right? Some kind of armored spirit?
>>98700564It makes perfect sense and the rumors of the shitshow that will be malerion's involvement in the end times 2 will only validate the voices in my head.
>>98700577>It’s like they don’t want to put in the effort to make him truly grotesque anymoreThe literal lich? The pestigors? The Wayne gacey demon prince? I’d say they were a lot more effective at horror than blight kings or nurgle attempted to be pre 2020.
>>98700579>It makes perfect sense
>>98700267Redditors gonna redditPretending to not understand the issue is intrinsic to their outlook on life
>>98700577His name is "Waljan, the Last of the First". Don't know the lore, but he seems like come kind of Ancestor Spirit.
>>98699782You actually posted them, got me a unit of 30 of them some months back and might pick up more alongside some thunderers and rangers.
>>98700586There's an official nurgle daemon prince? What's his deal?
>>98700586Fair but on average I would say it still feels more toned down compared to what used to get put out >>98700609I have zero clue what Warcrow is about but he seems neat and those models seem cool at least
>>98700627was a priest in a church to alariellehe was waiting for one of the other priests or priestesses to bite the dust so he could get a promotion as their replacementexcept the fuckers drank enough aqua ghyranis to live unnaturally long so he felt cheated out of career progressionpledged to nurgle out of spite, trashed the whole temple and put the priests into his new sword
>>98700627He used to be a priest for alarielle, his greed for eternal life ended up getting him seduced by nurgle where he then proceeded to massacre an entire church.
>>98700643>>98700647Humans revere an elven goddess of murder trees too?
>>98700662the pantheon is way more interconnected in aos, especially in the past where even nagash and gorkamorka were part of the grand alliancealarielle is definitely the non-human deity that humans follow the most
>>98700676Skavenslayer was pretty shit, but for sure the best part was when the gang needed to hire a random priest to give last rites and it was just riffing on shit like the Kurnouth priest being really aggressive and the Malerion priest being a weirdo.
>>98700676I knew at least that some people follow Nagash... mostly out of fear & wanting to be close to their loved one's spirits I'd imagine. I can't imagine Alarielle's very protective though.
>>98700690Real worship of nagash is officially illegal since the soul wars, worship of alarielle is basically mandatory because she was instrumental in the funding of the seeds of hope, except greywater.
>>98700700Obviously but the ones in Shyish I mean.
>>98700118What would they even get combined into? They're very distinct from any of the other existing elf astehetics. Maybe Malerion's army?
>>98700643Is that black shit supposed to be… a pelt?
>>98700643I liked that short story on the community site where some other nurgle guy bad mouthed him after his physical form was destroyed so he waterboarded him with liquid shit
>>98700756I think it's meant to emulate the thick stiff hairs on flies going by the wings.
>>98700676>It was at that moment Sigmar knew it was a mistake to have invited Nagash to the poetry evening.
>>98700756 thought it's some kind of quills
Now that we have every tome, what are we hoping for in terms of end of edition models? Seraphon, IDK, Nighthaunt, and Helmsmiths would be my choice.
>>98700796Wild guess: Pestilance
>>98700662She created the Living City and gave it to humans, she's pretty chill as long as you're not mindlessly burning forests down
>>98700799I wouldn't mind more Maggotkin. I feel like they've gotten the most love out of chaos recently though (and they already had a lot to begin with).
>>98700662There are warrior priests to her in Hammerhal also she has a human follower in the eight lamentations series, he’s a knight forgot his name tho he was pretty based
>>98700802>>98700805Interesting.
>>98700805>eight lamentationsHaven’t heard that name in ten years
Soulbound does a pretty good job of giving a glimpse at religions and how the gods are looked at
>>98700796taking rumors into consideration, it seems that a big part of the eoe campaign is about giving at least one huge monster per grand alliance, and then maybe waves related to the other influential movers of the plot>order: magic whizzfort>death: ossiarch titan>chaos: chaos dragon¿>destruction: ironjaw soecial character on wyvern>khazalites: their army's release>seraphon: coatl>skaven: pestilens wave>stormcast: vandus>khorne: khul
>>98700766wtf link?
>>98700872I doubt it will be monster spam. They run out of standard updates, so they will do more shit like Darkoath and Ironjaw "2nd battletome" shit
Still think it’s odd there are no elf rumors.
>>98700895it's a dwarf edition
>>98700895>only 2 and a third out of 4 lumineth temples are out>no tyrion and phoenix guard on the horizon even>no malerion and umbraneth on the horizon either >all hype for kurnothi died at the third specialist cameo>idk fans fished themselves when they got "3 units+spells">morathifags don't realise they're going the way of the slayers
They're updating skinks and stegadons within 2 years, aren't they?
>>98700971Yeah and we’re getting blessed units and a new great white lizard
>>98700971There is a chance next edition will be a throw away tome with jsut like a new sourus hero
>>98700796I'd pick Lizards, Soulblight, CoS, and.... Tzeentch. 3 that I like and one that I just feel bad for.
>>98700971if only, the lizard range is really struggling compared to most others.
Where the fuck are the KO updates. This is the most neglected range after BoK in AoS.
>>98701059You got a rather well recieved releas with the unmasked heads bits box and unionic divin suit hero + drones
>>98701059no, the most negleted range is tzeentch and IDK. BoK is pretty much complete.
>>98700785>>98700770Either way it’s pretty gross since it’s growing out of his skin
>>98701059I see way too many KO model hate posts to believe this
>>98701075BoK is complete (bar khul and khornegors) but kinda dated. Not as bad as tzeentch, but they're all end times / launch aos aesthetic models that kind of stand out
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>>98701280>>98701280>>98701280
>>98701188>>98701282What the fuck idiots
>>98697749I like the guy with the shield and the halbard gun, not in the box unfortunately...
>>98698979Hard to say in this case then if >>98698992 is true
>>98700306>its le fuggin fantasy chud so just make everyone an obese somalian what’s da heckin issue ok buddy
