Nehekhara Rises from the Sands Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Battle March General's Compendiumhttps://mega.nz/file/tP5STCAS#4yDuu8WLk-Mn4Ut2pe7x7AWwxJmEjXW5cvV0xtwMWD4>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>98684094>Thread Question:What do you think of the Tomb Kangz refresh? What army do you want to see refreshed next?
>>98696467Sure, but I really like the new sculpts. The chariots I may actually love. I am considering doing a chariot based army.
>>98696472New skellingtons look cool just in time for OctoberRefresh the noodle Wood Elf dragonCome out with Kislev and Cathay wave 3 already
>>98696485You better hope for new rules in that AJ for light chariots because they're pretty shit.
>TQI have nightmares of assembling necrons and death rattles, the arms look fragile as fuck and I fear these things are gonna break easy just trying to cut them out of the sprues. They’re rather boring individually but they look good when ranked up, which almost every kit has had a problem with since tow launched. Again though they look quite boring on an individual level, I don’t know if it’s the true scale or the fact that they’re not entirely naked.>what do you want to see refreshed nextI’m pretty apathetic to new releases honestly. I’ve spent more on the ajs(big mistake) than I have for actual minis since tow launched. I guess seeing some of the old cidatel stuff for renegade crowns would be nice.
Was it ever worth to take the anvil of doom bellow 2500 points?
>>98696526Yes, early on in TOW dwarf comp players developed a strat where they used an anvil and the dwarf beer cart along with marching column to sling shot a massive block of heavy dwarf infantry 27 inches into the enemy deployment zone on turn 1
>>98696516They refreshed the Deathrattle kit a second time (same design, new sprues) and it actually went together quite nicely overall and didn’t feel like you were constantly on the verge of breaking your model. I think this kit will be a lot of the same. I hope some of the chest accessories are optional, they look sculpted on but I know the sculpts they use for these pictures are technically different than what will be in the box.
>>98696472>What do you think of the Tomb Kangz refresh?Magnificent. I've been waiting for something like this for twenty years.
That is it, biting the bullet and grabbing the TOW launch Tomb Kings box for the old sculpts ASAP. My other armies can be sidelined to get the sculpts of my teens!
So, I've been reading the old army of the Lichemaster list (which I'll assume will be the inspiration for the barrow kingdoms).It has some nice diversity in units that make it feel distinct from VCs and TKs.>Shadow DruidsEthereal Necromancers>Barrow KingSort of a chariot tomb king>SimulacraS5, T5, W3 living statues with a 5+ ward, core unit >GhostsUnderwhelming banshee>Skeleton warriors Can take javelins, I'm hoping the AoI allows both melee or bow skellies>Embalmed onesMummies, not too interesting >Unquiet Horsemen Essentially black knights>Barrow Guardians Wights/Grave/Tomb Guard in all but name>Tomb stalkerMonstrous statue, the example army uses a Tomb Scorpion painted like stone>GloomsGhost infantry tarpit, they can't do shit with their WS2, S2, but they're ethereal and have the equivalent of warband, so they won't be going down easily.They also hate themselves and are always subject to super instability, so they'll die on their own slowly, even outside of combat.>Winged Nightmare Flying monster, pretty much a proto varghulfOf course, I don't think this army will translate 1:1 to ToW. I expect to have chariots added to tale advantage of the new release. The statues could be done by painting some other existing TK model line stone, but I'm doubtful.There's two possible outcomes, really:A) the rules team lock in and provide a very fluffy list that is somewhat between VC and TK, and has lots of conversion opportunities, with some callbacks to the old Kemmler list.B) the rules team fuck it up like with Hordes of Chaos and we get a mediocre Tomb Kings list with emphasis on skeletons and chariots, no access to monsters and probably some regen gimmicks. Sadly, this seems the most likely scenario.What do you anons expect, hope and fear about this AoI?
>>98696810half those options wont make it into the AOI at all. I dont really have any expectations for an AOI at all, if they dropped the ball as hard as they did with hordes of chaos.
>>98696472You forgot this part, early throoder>Threads policy:>Bot-made and bot-edited images are banned from the thread and to be reported as the off-topic trolling spam they are.
>>98697033I don’t agree with that policy, that leaves out well intentioned community members like Beastmen 3d print bro out in the cold
>>98697037no, it doesn't, he can post his trash models, but he can't post his trash images
>>98697046Don’t be so angry dude it’s not like he’s spamming
New skeleton cav is going to have different shields
>>98697033No one gives a shit, you're acting like a reddit bitch.
Does the Wizarding Hat provide any real value or is it a trap option? I like the idea of making one of my generals a caster but giving them the stupid rule really gives me pause. I was planning to put this on a dark elf master if that matters at all.
Any predictions, hopes or simply wishes for future Armies of Infamy? I hope for the return of Overground Defence to represent ranger encampments, clans that lost their holds and now travel the roads or just a throng moving fast to aid an ally.I'm writing up something for fun but I'm not an expert on balance, might use it in games against friends:>limits: no warmachines (including anvils of doom) aside from gyrocopters, no hammerers, iron breakers or iron drakes>army comp: all characters aside from anvil, rangers and miners with 0-2 per thousand points in core along with quarrelers, warriors and thunderers in special along with 0-1 slayers per thousand points, gyrocopters longbeards and carts in rare >new hero: Josef Bugman - I think he can be transplanted from the 6.5 book mostly intact >new unit: Bugman Rangers (0-1 per thousand points upgrade for Longbeards OR a 0-1 per thousand points core choice) - scout, move through cover and maybe skirmish, and lets them buy throwing axes, recommended to model them using warrior bodies >special rule #1: spring the trap - once per game at the start of your movement phase you can declare this special rule, if you do so in the first turn your vanguard units add +X inches to their vanguard move, if it's in later turn they can add +X to their charge and march moves (I'm thinking 3" added after all other modifiers)>special rule #2: all your infantry units can buy one of the following special rules combination if they don't already have it: scout and move through cover OR vanguard and ambush (I think +2 points per model since it's dwarfs?)>special rule #3: all your infantry units can be switched to open order before the gameHope this wouldn't be broken, I'm fine with it being underpowered since I only play casual.
>>98696810I imagine that the Barrow Kingdoms AoI will be Skeletons leading Skeletons, though this is largely based on AoS skeletons coming from the “Barrow Kingdoms”. Not to mention this refreshes’ focus is on the new skeletons. Like maybe there will be a profile for a powerful Skeleton dude that (You) gotta make your self to be the general.
>>98697293would be nice to implement that ying yang mechanic they had in tww for cathay and recognize that their sex actually matters rather than just flat out ignorning the only good part of their lore.
>Be a bronze wicker chariot faction that would get it's shit slammed by any other faction if they a gave a fuck
>>98697260Well you can't cast spells if you have armour; the Empire engineer for example is the only one who can get it and actually cast the spell he knows in the Empire roster.
>>98696472>TQAs predicted they apperas to be skeletons with tons of useless shit on them, I cannot wait to see the sprues to again confirm that they are CAD-made horrors
>>98696639They can reform from being blasted into pieces the size of sand so long as the priest is pulling them together. I forget what happens if they burn.
>>98697381Actually, you can because the Bearer isn't actually a wizard (for some reason):https://tow.whfb.app/faq/magic-items-faq#can-the-wearer-of-the-wizarding-hat-cast-spells-whilst-wearing-armour
>>98697385kys ESLtard
Warriors of Chaos: worth it to upgrade the chariot to have the gorebeast over the horses?>Pic not related, just including it for engagement
>>98697430those longships are neat
>>98697568I still wonder if they're real models or drawn on, and if real, what models are they? Selling a longship kit would be very cool.
R8 my BM WoC List - 498ptsLevel 2 Exalted Sorcerer w/light armour, hand weapon, MoC Undivided (Unsure on what flavour magic is best)Core:2 x 5 man Marauder horsemen, 1 unit w/flails & Cult of Bloodied Hound + Horsemaster, other unit w/cavalry spears & Cult of Carrion Crow + Horsemaster1 x 5 Chaos Warhounds + vanguardSpecial:7 x Chaos Warriors w/hand weapon & shield, MoC Undivided + Champion (Sorc would roll with these guys in the centre)1 x 2 Skin Wolves inc. Jarl
>>98697591They're probably a custom build for photoshoots
>>98696554It's insane how much GW devs hate dwarfs. "You don't get to participate in the most crucial parts of the game: magic, cavalry charges, and movement, but here's stuff to make up for it like shooting and runic magic. Except fuck you we're going to nerf your shooting and runic magic and any other thing you come up with to make up for your shortcomings." Just look at the dwarf cannon stats compared to every other race's cannon. Sell your gyrocopters now while you can.
>>98697568>take faction>make them pirates>instantly twice as coolEvery time.
>>98697591Email GW and ask, you won't lose anything by doing that.
>>98697731>shortcomingsHeh.
>>98697430Isn’t Warhammer World filled with custom models for the dioramas? I bet it’s part of that.
>>98696472So I'm assuming the new skellies will be locked in this fuckoff huge reinforcement box before being available seperately later on, right?
>>98697633WoC at BM level can be tough, especially at that points level. Good selection on the horses and wolvrs, as with skin wolves.I would downgrade the sorcerer to lvl 1 and give him the ruby ring or swap for an aspiring champion. The chaos warriors are super fragile at this points. Try to bulk them out to 10 by reducing your points in your hero or swap emtirely for an infantry block of maraudersxwith HW+shield
>>98697755>the ogre towering over the elfThis guy looks about 12-15 foot. Huge!
>>98697731>Except fuck you we're going to nerf your shooting and runic magic and any other thing you come up with to make up for your shortcomingsWhat did they nerf?> Just look at the dwarf cannon stats compared to every other race's cannonOn one hand it makes sense: dwafs are about sticking to what works instead of pushing the tech whenever possible like making the cannon bigger and deal more damage. However since they care so much about reliability they should be able to reroll the misfire table once or something without needing a rune.
>>98697872A good diet is important.
>>98697872>I'm sure to win because my speed is superiorMoments before the elf gets anchored
>>98696472>What do you think of the Tomb Kangz refresh?Great, no notes, the only question now is the price and whether assembling them will be hell.>What army do you want to see refreshed next?Looking over at how AoS has massacred dwarf warriors and dwarf gunners, I want to see TOW make its own with normal dwarf armors and weapons.throw in slayers as third kit of this wave.
>>98696472>What do you think of the Tomb Kangz refresh?The new skellies look great, so I'm pretty happy with that. I'm also glad I delayed buying the old ones long enough for the refresh to happen.
>>98697852Great advice, thanks anon.I'm a migrant from Necromunda, and I'm used to being able to casually check out a million other gang rosters on Yaktribe. Is there something similar for TOW where I can see what lists other people are building for Battle March? I just realised there are those pre-made BM forces I could go off.
>>98697332nah, they would win because of their superior speed
>>98697332I don't think you are actually meant to want your chariots slamming into anything, speed is the name of their game, impact hits are an abstraction.
>>98698157You do if their Tomb Guard Chariots
>>98696472Do we dare making size/proportions comparisons between the new skeletons and the tomb guards?
>>98698289This looks about right, they obviously made them to not be too dissimilar to the current range.
>>98698289The gold did feel too bright
>>98698289I never understood why the tomb guards have such massive heads, compared to the crypt guards
>>98698289man I love the new skellies but with all the additional detail they're going to take a lot longer to paint than the old ones
>>98698312So they don't stand out too much from the ancient skeleton models they would be fielded with.
>>98698289They kinda look like the old tomb guard now.
>>98698312Nehekharans just built different
>>98698312they work out in the library
>>98697755Fucking A
>tow has undead so bad they can't even revive this thread
>>98698418>refresh so good threadshitters have nothing to complain aboutI view that as a good thing.
>>98698418There's nothing about it's the same thing with WFRP5e releasing it's what everyone expected, and no one has any complaints about the new tomb king models yet.Outside of maybe the Night Goblin BB team, it was probably the reveal with the least drama around it
>>98697293I'd want them to do something like that fake Heroquest/Fimir AoI, in that it's something that none of us would have thought of but when we saw it we all went "Oh that's sick actually."
>>98698442>yet ANOTHER stunty teamI wanted Tzeentch or Slaanesh, or even Kislev/ Cathay.
>>98698465Kislev won't come until they in they are in TOW, im kinda surprised why Cathay hasn't shown up, but they probably are trying to figure out the gimmick of the team
>>98698337I've been thinking that, I'm tempted to make a unit of tomb guard with them using the tg shields and halberds
>>98698337I bet the Tomb Guard refresh is going to be based on these guys.
>>98698481>>98698465GW are looking for a new lead design for Blood Bowl and other spin-offs, they are scraping the proverbial barrel until someone new is brought in.
>>98698512>a new lead design for Blood Bowl and other spin-offsSo SDS in general, or just the BB stuff like Dungeon Bowl?
>>98698523the job/s is specifically for Necromunda, BB, Underworlds and Warhammer Quest. It's SDS but not the big titles of TOW and HH I guess.
>>98698549Underworlds and Warhammer Quest are not SDS, to my knowledge.
>>98698549i thought Warhammer Quest was a mainline Studio game, not an SDS one; that's why all the new ones are either AoS or 40k (and why all the SDS games but Necromunda are either set in the HH or TOW)The Necromunda RPG feel almost like an SDS replacement for Warhammer Quest if I'm being honest
>>98698549It seems odd to advertise for a new lead designer right after releasing a new edition of munda. Probably a "ghost posting" and they already intend to promote someone internally who's been working on the team already.
I wonder if they're going to try to keep up this pace of range refreshes going forward. One for every quarter or so? You could have a full core refresh by the time the next edition rolls out.
>>98697430As a general rule, no. It's never worth bringing a chariot in the first place, with the sole exception being as a mount for a sorcerer.
>>98698588Hard to say without knowing if they plan on slowing down should people not buy stuff fast enough.They might have a quarter of big releases then a quarter of low-effort/high-yeld releases (heroes and books) and so on
>>98697755You are onto something anon.
>>98698619Wow. I remember Chaos Heavy Chariots being the scourge of 8th ed. They nerfed them that bad in TOW?
>>98697755It doesn't work for every race
>>98698629It’s more that elite infantry and chariots don’t have a role
>>98698640I think it would be much better with a less retarded colour scheme
>>98698629At the risk of reigniting the embers of an argument long past, it's not that they nerfed chariots, it's that they nerfed chaos warriors (the guys riding the chariot) and that the comparative advantage of bringing a chariot (utterly worthless outside of on the charge, explodes if anything so much as looks at it, and the impact hits aren't even good) vs. literally anything else in special is just farcical. Why would you ever bring a chariot when chimeras, chosen knights, and dragon ogres exist?
Most paint schemes for Nurgle Daemons I see use white basecoat, followed with green, yellowish brown or creme speed paint and drybrush/highlights.Do you guys have any idea how to paint them quickly but with black base instead?I was thinking about drybrushing them extensively with white first and achieve a darker tone this way but I started to wonder if washing them with a dark wash over black base and then simply following with purple drybrush wouldn't give interesting results as well.
>>98698751start with a purple spray, then dark blue wash, then off-white drybrush (either bone, skin or very pale pink), then the green contrast of your choice, ideally pick two and apply them with a gradient and/or multiple passages to darken certain parts.
>>98697872The thought of the elf getting donked by a fucking anchor makes me grin
>>98698751My Nurgle Daemons in AoS is painted like this over a black primer:>Castellan green>Athonian Camoshade>Highlited/Drybrushed with Nurgling green
>>98698767I already have then sprayed black. Unfortunately my dropped my only airbrush needle during cleaning so I can't follow with another colour. I thought I may as well treat it like a sign to work with the minis as they are now.
>>98698771Forgot the image like an idiot
>>98698772then you can drybrush them with the light colour and then use the wash, a dark wash on black isn't going to achieve much, it does something, but it's not much.
>>98695507>>98695573Cool! I'm already downloading the gallery.
>>98696472TQI like them. I'm not super impressed by them, but the models don't have inherently impressive concepts behind them so it's not actually bad. They're workhorse soldiers and have models appropriate for them.The chariots are based and I like the tilted wheels.
>TQAbsolutely based move on GW's part. I think an obvious choice would the High Elf spearmen, silver helms, and archers. The Y2K ones are so bad. And I'm getting to that stage of my gaming career when I want to be the affable older player with an iconic army, you know? Maybe I'd even do them blue like the studio army. After that, maybe Empire? The 7E state troops were a huge downgrade, sleeves not puffy enough etc.
>>98696639Wait, that is a good question. Do Tomb Kings make new guys somehow? Why have I (an autistic freak) not wondered this before?
If you guys ever think TOW prices are high. GW is charging 700 Aussie dollars for the collectors edition space marine codex lmao. Absolute insanity.
>>98698944What's that in real dollars? Like 70?
>>98698987it's £250 so probably like $300+
>>98698991Man I wouldn't even pay 70 for that shit. Are the pages covered in real gold or something?
>>98698944>Aussie dollars
>>98698289>>98698337I'm interested in how the Tomb Guard refresh will look since they gave the basic skeletons so much armor. They look more like Nehekara Warriors from Total War now than basic bitch naked skeletons. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing, but GW can still do mostly naked skeletons without them being too fiddly and fragile. They did it with the Sepulchral Guard and they look great.
>>98698995No, I don't even think the metal inserts are made of any expensive metals
>>98696472My only complaint is that there are no bare skeleton heads. They look more professional sure. But I kind of want a bit of ragtag on my skeletons. I hope the scale of the warhammer skulls box fits these guys so I can do some swaps.
>>98699038>Tomb Guard refreshdon't expect one within the next decade
>>98699057I think the archers have some bare heads; I wonder how these skeleton heads work with Skull from the Skull Throne Skulls
>>98699062We are in the age of two factory max efficient capitalist GW. I fully expect the pace to be a 2-4 kits refresh for a different faction every 3ish months.
>>98699038Best skeletons gw has ever done btwAnyway as for the tomb guard, I genuinely don't know. People had the same question vis a vis the AoS grave guard since they similarly made the basic skeletons very heavily armoured. The grave guard ended up being fairly straightforward, which meant there was honestly not that much difference between the two kits. The barrow guard have bigger shields and more elaborate helmet crests, but honestly that's about it. I like both kits but they should've been differentiated a bit more.
I am saddened at how bad Sepulchural Stalkers are. I can see a use for the Necropolis Knights, but the Stalkers just seem bad all around.
>>98699069Why is it that GW seems to genuinely make the best looking skeletons of any company? Any other third party undead I look at has weird proportions or the skull looks all fucked up. How hard can it be to sculpt a good looking skull that actually looks at least somewhat realistic? Even Duncan's new range looks like ass between the weird skull shape and the solid plastic chunk that is their loin cloth.
>>98699089So I have a theory about how the AOS skeletons ended up being the basic skeletons. I think they were intended to only be for Cursed City and that whole Slavic aesthetic was only going to be for that game setting, while the range-wide refresh was going to be more in line with classic Vampire Counts for the general look of Soulblight. But then all the shit happened with Cursed City, it died way before GW intended it to due to production issues, and they pivoted to just using those designs as the whole look for the range.I bet that originally they were going to be like a semi-elite city guard that only came with Cursed City and standard skeletons would be the more naked ones. Then there wouldn't have been so much similarity between Grave/Barrow Guard and the regular skeletons.
>>98699077>We are in the age of two factory max efficient capitalist GW. and that means twice the number of space marines and twice the number of tomb king releases, which means you get one release every 10 years instead of one every 20
>>98699138the multipart skeletons came way too close after cursed city for them to be a desperate change of manoeuvre
>>98699105GW have had literal decades of practice to perfect making skulls. Ever since the inception of warhammer skulls have been extremely prevalent.They also have a very clear vison of what they want a "warhammer" skull to look like.Most depictions of skulls in their art range from somewhat stylized to extreme, strong defined edges and sharp features.I wouldn't be surprised if they have archives just of skulls they can look at, from 3d to 2d.
>>98699212Yes, but it's a skull. It's completely universal and anyone can see those same references. I don't get why GW seems to be the only one to have it down pat while other companies make these weird things that are all fucked up looking. It shouldn't be difficult for even a mediocre 3D modeler to make a good looking skull on par with GW.
>>98699243the difficult part isn't modelling it but casting it
>>98699243skulls DO look fucked up irl anon, generally speaking GW just does a very good job with model proportion which is actually their special sauce, not 'detail' like they love to claim in their financial reports. It's knowing what looks right to the eye and not trying to copy anatomical examples or 2D artwork.
>>98699138The full mutlipose deathrattle kit came out like 2 weeks after cursed city's initial launch, they were always intended to coincide. Just poor foresight on gw's part I think.
>>98698442These are literally gonna be negative fun to assemble aren't they?
>>98699418They might be as simple as one piece for the entire torso+legs, one bit for each arm and then one for the head.If you look at them you can see the use of knives at the belt or loose rags strategically placed to act as extra contact points between legs and torso.
>>98697100And barding hopefully, heavy tomb king cavalry long overdue
>>98699515A bronze age faction shouldn't even have cavalry, that's what chariots are for.
>>98699515>heavy tomb king cavalrydun like itit shouldn't be a thingnot with horses at least
>>98699105Think about what a close relationship there is between skulls and warhammerI mean half the way to warhammering something up is adding skulls (fuck you cathay sensitivity team, eat a meaty dick)Its no wonder then that theyve basically perfected themAlso, its easy to "upgrade" other skele kits by adding GW skulls to them
>>98698640Are these meant to he pirate lizardmen?It doesnt help that the models look like ass, like is that a lizard or a nid
>>98696472Man, why are tomb kings so based and vampires so cringe?
>>98698289>>98699069How readily could the new models be turned into having a more generic bronze age or barrow wight look?I like the idea of a tributary army from the old world that may have had a connection to the ancient tomb kings in the long past, now raised once more as Settra invadesThink less egyptian and more conan
>>98699627More inspo
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>>98699615James seems afraid of sexy and cool vampires and if you’re gonna do vampires, they aught to be sexy and cool. They’re just weird and grotesque.
>>98699627That's probably what the Barrow Legion AoI is meant to representYou could probably kitbash them with the WGA Skeleton kits, Warlord games Skeleton Warriors and the Oathmark ones(which are very Conan-inspired) since i think the TK ones will be very simmiler to the original TK ones
>>98699627>Think less egyptian and more conanNorth Star Figures has Conanesque bronze age Skellies and Wights for Oathmark. Skellies come in boxes of 30 with enough shield, spears, hand weapons and bows for EVERY model in the box. With the second edition of Oathmark already on pre-orders we can expect skeleton cavalry to be released as well.
>>98699418With how flat their poses are, I'd be surprised if they're more than 4 parts each. This is gonna be a very simple kit.
>>98698628Nippon comes out first.
>>98699726Already here.
>>98699671>Barrow KingdomsSounds very Kemmler or at least Vampire Counts. Which is weird because they're still trapped in Legends hell.
Ordered a 3D printer on a whim today and I've no idea what to use it for.
>>98700208Open an Etsy print shop so you can afford health insurance to treat the eventual cancer
>>98700071I’m wondering since they’re invading wood elf territory they unintentionally find ways to respawn without the Liche Priests resulting in a pure skeleton force. Unless they decide to surprise everyone again with new models after the reveal show I can’t think how they could make the AoI make sense with that name.
>>98700263So a Tomb Kings army without a hierophant? Sounds dumb and lorebreaking. Maybe they break into nearby barrows and wake up the dead of the Old World. Could it be some prodding by GW about bringing Vampire Counts out of Legends?
>>98700208Resin or FDM?
>>98700321>Sounds dumb and lorebreaking. Welcome to the old world.
>>98700351What else has happened? I know female Bret knights are a thing now for some retarded reason. Anything else?
>>98700263Might be pure necromancer from the empire list with additions for rez
>>98700360Ruined lots of the mystery, such as canonizing that chaos warriors just buy their armor for the most part, the Bretonian crusades are lame now with araby being replaced with skeletons, Cathay’s entire fucking existence, they made some changes to Kislev that I didn’t like but I honestly can’t remember the specifics of, some tech is also just retconned in for no reason. I could go on if I actually wrote shit down. Or actually cared for the old worlds settings to be more exact.
>>98700321It’s not like they’re the only guys that know come to know how to raise Skeletons, like >>98700371 says they could see non-Nehekaran Necromancer’s rise up. This AJ is apparently taking place post Border Prince invasion of the land.
>>98699627Here's your Tomb... Barrow guard bro
>>98700470First row, second from the right. That's a chimp.
>>98700470Celtic combat raisins.
>>98700470spoopy mummies
Anyone know where I could get some rat tails to add to models?The old clanrat/nightrunner kit had them
why are we talking about barrow kings? how are nehekarans strolling into athel loren connecting to them? they stumble on northern undead and resurrect them to their services?
>>98700345FDM. I know essentially nothing about 3D printing but I guess now is time to learn.
Why don't they just burn the fucking Drakwald
Dwarf organ gun should go back to rolling only one artillery dice but being auto hit with strength penalties at long range and 24" range.
>>98700570Don't get fooled with pictures of FDM-printed minis that are supposedly as good as resin-printed minis. FDM quality is MUCH lower than resin printing. FDM is perfect for printing terrain tho, especially if you are not choleric and willing to print slower but with more layers for extra detail. I have boxes full of scenery pieces printed for cents. What brand and model have you bought?
>>98700371It would be interesting to have some sort of barrow/cairn gimmick instead of Invocation of Nehek, having resurrection be linked to board control and unit positioning would be a fun change of pace. It'd also make a cool scenario.>Undead player begins the game with 3-4 cairns on the table. >Each cairn can do a form of resurrection, somewhat better than a regular necromancer, but only for units within 6".>Cairns can also add new models to existing units, similar to zombies.>All skeletal units can be upgraded with ambush, and may be deployed within 4" of any cairn when they arrive.>Any unit with 10 or more unit strength can charge a cairn to collapse the structure and destroy the necromantic ritual that reanimates the undead.>Once all cairns have been destroyed, the entire army becomes subject to instability and will begin crumbling rapidly.
>>98700606Yeah terrain was my most likely port of call, good to know. Its a elegoo neptune 4 plus because there's a sale on and I heard it was a decent sized tray for terrain and a decent beginners model.
>>98700508Well, they don't call it raisin the dead for no reason
>>98700561The new AJ will have a AoI called the Barrow Kingdoms.
>>98700470>>98700521The specialist games team is scared to death of this much SOVL. We'll be lucky if we get regular tomb kings with a little extra verdigris and forest bases to show off the AoI
>>98700394To their credit, it went back and forth>1st to 6th edAmbigious, chaos armour was gifted by the gods or mutated from their old armour>7th edThey mostly traded with the chaos dwarfs woth the minoroty being ancient artifacts>8th Back to 6th and before. No mention of chorfs>TOWRitualised armouring in the fortresses of the Chaos Wastes.
>>98700582>Turtle IslesHere be sea elves
>>98700470pretty sure barrow legions is just another excuse to never add VC.
>>98697755What if you already start with pirates? How would you make them more piratey?
>>98701055Make them African
>>98701055That's obviously pirates that prey on other pirates, i.e. privateers.
I really like the new Ogres but do they fit on squares?
>>98701112Probably, those are still 40s. They'll just be kinda awkward and angled.
>>98700987If/when they add Counts, what're the odds they bring back Vlad, Manny, Kemmler, etc.
finished another 7 double choppas and a shaman
>>98701112With the right posing they rank up. I bought some of the new gluttons but I’m thinking of just getting the old bulls off eBay after buying some of the old Ironguts for parts. Just more charm in the old models imo. Guess I’ll make the new ones into Bruisers/Maneaters.
>>98701303Nice work, anon. I like that vibrant green.
>>98700987It's funny to see the public opinion divided between>Barrow kingdoms means vampire counts never, this is the closest he will ever give us!>Barrow kingdoms is GW warming up the engines for vampire counts in 2e!
>>98701310Meant for >>98701272
>>98701303Do you have some pics of what they look like ranked up?
>>98701327Not mine, but here
>>98701351They do way better on squares than the new LizardsThanks anon, I think I'll buy some after all
>>98701392Dont. Theyre a pain to assemble and paint. Also they have women in it. You will lose your cock.
>>98701392Yeah, they’re very nice models. My only real gripe is how small their heads are, but I guess that’s to sell the “big belly, tiny brain” thing. Good luck on your project, ogrebro. I got my metal butcher today, now I’m just waiting on my tyrant.
>>98701403There are no female ogres in the gluttons or ironguts kits, you hysterical retard.
>>98701403>Also they have women in it.always had them
>>98701410You fucking retard, do you not see the female heads? their luscious lips that are asking for a strong virile man to steal them from her? You faggot. But yes there are women in the gluttons kit at the very least, now lose that dick, if you dare.
>>98701416So you’re blind AND stupid, got it.
>>98701351Y'know, I'm the biggest AoS hater, but those stag beetle collars go kinda hard on them
>>98696472I seriously hope empire state troops and greatswords get refreshed, going from 6th to 7th was the biggest visual downgrade, i fucking hate the terry pratchett looking fuckers especially the one guy who has no shoes
>>98701451terry prachett has charm, the empire does not.
>>98701451Just paint his feet black or brown and they look like shoes
>>98701462No.
>>98701467Ok then wait for the refresh to add women and blacks to the unit I guess
>>98701112Apparently yes, but you have to be particular in how you rank them up.
>>98701471I wouldn't mind if the women were cute like Elisse instead of the abominations that are the nudorfs.
>>98701480you'll get cathayan females then, got it.
>>98701112>>98701303I'm working on the new ogors for wfg. Physically the models are the same size as the old ogres but the weapons are a problem. Bulls are pretty easy to fix. Because of how the wrist joint is made I recommend gluing the weapons on then cutting them off at the wrist to angle them more inward. I haven't figured out what to do with the ironguts yet other than rank them up in a very specific way.
>>98701456The empire should have style and panache, a certain grim flamboyance
>>98701151Vlad is dead, and I don't think Kemmler's been born yet. Depending on the source Mannfred is either at the bottom of Hel Fenn or in hiding. Mundvard, the "Master" of Marienburg, should be around in this era. Dieter Helsnicht is alive, somewhere.It might be more convenient to look beyond the Empire for notable vampires. Neferata is presumably in the Silver Pinnacle, Walach Harkon is accounted for in the northern Border Princes, Luthor Harkon is active albeit all the way over in Lustria. There may be others in the Dark Lands.
>>98701486Ogres. Call them ogres in this thread.
>>98701599Ogres are the models that aren’t for sale anymore Ogors are the latest hot thing with women in it.
>>98701486I was looking at the old ironguts but they seem to have been taken off the store.Any murmurings of if/when they might be back? Or do you think they're getting the full refresh treatment?
>>98701622They’ll be back whenever iron blasters, and thunder tusks are gone from the webstore.
>>98701599I also called the game wfg.>minor spelling mistake.gif
>>98701622I wouldn’t complain getting Ogres as a legacy army, especially as it’d mean Man Eaters would be back and I’d love to get some of those models, but I have a suspicion it’ll be a long while if at all. Everyone thought the refresh for skeletons in AoS meant VC soon after all, snd how long has it been?
>>98700987>>98701319>Barrow LegionsKemmler and Krell coming back? This is better news than VC, fuck vampire timmy lords
>>98701532There's a decent chance Kemmler is around. We don't really know how old he is but he was already powerful and old by 2401. So he might have been doing something during Magnus' time. But frankly I just really want a modern Vlad model. I don't care if it comes from TOW or if they bring him up in AOS. It would also be nice to see a modern Kemmler because the old murder hobo is a fun guy.
>>98701768>Kemmler and KrellSadly not. Kemmler is still pretty young and unknown, whilst Krell is dead and buried for now.
>>98701650>Everyone thought the refresh for skeletons in AoS meant VC soonWho the hell thought that?
Is there an army or armies that you love everything about with one exception, the exception being enough that you did not buy the army(ies)? For me it is Tomb Kings. Loved when they had their armybook in 6e, but I was broke and unable to afford them. When a LGS opened up I had a chance to read the 8e Armybook and look at the boxes and fell back in love, but the play style just did not mesh with me. A few years back, I yearned for the Egyptian skeleton aesthetic and designs and bought into the Mantic Empire of Dust for display purposes, but they just lacked the charm and whimsy of the GW TK line. While late to ToW, I read the Arcane Journals and loved the content of the Kings. Loved the looks and designs of the miniatures, even as people made complaints about their age. Now, I am tempted to buy into the army before the old line is fully OoP, but the play style is just so unfun to me that I can not bring myself to do it. Anyway, do you Anons have any similar stories with an army or armies you like?
>>98699627Make a mockup for a more de-egyptified version, without adding additional parts
>>98702055>without adding additional partsdude its not even an option. You would have to shave it off.
>>98702055*except the shield
>>98701980Dwarfs. I actually like practically everything about them, their look, fluff and the concept of their gameplay. But when I fought an actual battle beyond BM size, at least above 500, it was apparent there was only one way to use them: Sit there and wait for the enemy to come to you. Amazing if it happens, appalling if not.
>>98702094As a lifetime Dwarf player, that is so understandable. You basically just have to footslog under the cover of artillery and missile units or castle up. Beer carts and the Anvil can give you some bonus mobility, as well as taking Drilled on things like Warriors and Longbeards. Miners tend to surprise a lot of my opponents, as does tossing an explosive cart or two near melee units who can suddenly stand and shoot charging enemies.
>>98701980The Vampire Counts. I really liked the look of "The Undead" from the old 5th edition book with snippits of each army. I liked the idea of a necromancer and Skeleton Warrior leaders, or as we know now, Wights. However the 5th edition focus on Vampires put me off as a kid and the 6th edition book for them was, for the time of my age, pretty spooky for me. I still find the art of the mutilated fairy extremely gnarly, even for warhammer.
>>98701532To be fair, all the Vampire's were dead, and that didn't stop them coming back or having rules. Most of the Ork named characters like Grom or Azag were dead, or missing and presumed dead. Bretonnians like Repanse or Odo are also characters who weren't alive for the "current" timeline, yet had rules. Granted that was back when Warhammer felt like it took more after historicals, so I do think your right that it's unlikely modern GW will add dead characters to the game. I think if they bring back counts they should focus on something new instead crawling back to Sylvania again. I'd like to some more based on the other vampire branches with some characters for them.
What causes the winds to split from raw chaos stuff into 8? Does it just happen? Is it some relic of the portals? Have there been multiple explanations over the game's lifespan, like one pre end times and one (probably stupid) one from the end times?
>>98702258this is from the tow rulebook but it's been the explanation for a long while
Finally saw the new dwarves. They are impressively bad. Like they look like they were straight up ripped from a low poly mobile game.
>>98702288So initially an artefact driven thing that became a self reinforcing eddy and eventually a change to the metaphysics of the world. Thanks.
>>98702306The leafblowers are so bad its funny
>>98702306Looking at these I just noticed that at least one of these models is holding their weapon wrong. Lmao
>>98702306I'm honestly under the impression the shit sculptor for 40k got benched onto the AoS design team. Such a sudden shift in quality compared to any of the death releases.
>>98702306what the fuck do they have against normal guns?
>>98702306Two of the characters are nice, and I like the artillery. But yeah everything else is dogshit.
>>98702386I honestly have to believe whoever was in charge of votann was in charge of making the hellsmith and nu-dwarves for AOS. Its the only possible explanation for it. Even Khadrons have more sensible gun designs (I also think these are the best dwarves have looked while bracing with a gun but thats a different convo). They just reek of 40k design that has completely failed votaan and, in my opinion, the necromunda squatts, and now this stuff. Its like the people behind the units and the hero's were in completely different creative spaces.
>>98702306the basic units work for some weird offshoot subfaction inbetween normal dwarfs and full-on steampunk dwarfs, with the gyrocopter banished with them as wellwhile the valayan guards, gholems and characters do fit with old dwarfs
>>98702386They're British.
>>98702325>The leafblowers are so bad its funnyMan. This almost makes me want to buy some so I can model them blowing big piles of leaves.
>>98702421>>98702392Those don't look particularly good either. Not bad but definitely meh. If I wanted a dwarf golem I'd probably just go third party. I'm sure there are a lot to pick from.
>>98702426>the trees can't start speaking elvish if they're naked
dwiggers get exactly what they deserve
>>98702409I think the bigger issue with dwarfs in general since 7th edition is the lack of art direction and identity.They want to make them steampunk, but also dieselpunk, but also Norse inspired, but also employing only metal and stone, but also very ornamented, but also whimsical and also having clear callbacks to classic Warhammer, and it all ends up so saturated and aimless that it looks like crap. In their endless struggle to stay away from stereotypical and time proven dwarf designs, GW keep finding new ways of making the shittiest dwarfs possible.
>>98702421>>98702548evidently splitting them up is the only way forward>Hills dwarfs>Norse dwarfs>Slayer dwarfs>Normal dwarfs>Imperial dwarfs>Industrial dwarfs>Steampunk dwarfs>Evil dwarfs >Chaos dwarfs>Chaos chaos dwarfs
>>98702306OH LAWWWDDD, LAWWD O DEM RANGZ
>>98702409Kharadron thankfully feel like an evolution of the armor and design cues of 8th, mainly Ironbreakers/Irondrakes. The Nu Dwarfs can barely be called Dwarfs and manage to make the Mantic Dwarves look good.
>>98702306GW branched out into wagnerian wargaming?
>>98702421I don't like aos dwarfs using howitzers instead of cannons.
>>98702646>thankfully8th edition dwarf models were a disgrace to the army and the absolute worst every unit has looked. Sorry, but steampunk dwarves are cringe, Reddit and troon coded.
Getting ready for a 1500p causal game today with my beasty boys.
>>98702727>Reddit and troon coded.So perfect for dwarfs.
>>98702727>and the absolute worst every unit has lookedand yet they were still miles better than 7th ed plastics and these aos dwarfs
>>98702306Besides the infantry there's a lot to like. I'd straight up use this guy in TOW.The rune powered boat and cannons are neat, so are the golems.
>>98702740how many master runes of kingship is this dude carrying?
>>98702731Trvke.
>>98702057What are you trying to convey?
Posted this kitbash a couple weeks ago, still painting it but it currently looks like shit WiP. Should I expand this one dude out into a little Nurgle themed Battle March army?
>>98702762Two. One if you don't count the stylized one on the helmet.
>>98702786I like it and sure, a small BM theme based around that would be great!
>>98702789Does the one on the axe count?
>>98702808Missed that, make it 4
>>98701980Demons. They’re great but they’re so explicitly unsuited for a rank and flank game it’s not really funny. I don’t even think they work if they were souped back with hordes of chaos. I also don’t like how uncreative demons have been handled with gw as of late. Though slaanesh is nice.
>>98702740not a fan of the helmet but if the kit includes other heads, it's a fine dwarf lord for TOW
>>98702421every time the gunners are posted I just see Cadians kek
>>98698823Here's the gallery, for convenience.>mega (dot) nz/folder/PXRi0LLA#FdWDbvkbi1HkOFD_Xd4lJA
>>98695507I want YOUfor total elf extermination enlist now
>>98702740jesus the symmetry of AoS sculpts look so much like AI it's unreal.
So what should I buy now if I plan to buy that box? What do I need for battle march?
>>98702984Just CAD.>sculpt one leg>copy it>flip it>etcIts why when people try to justify the increased detail level as a reason for such high prices I laugh in their faces. Models are easier than ever to sculpt. The ones GW were making 20-30 years took way more time and effort.
>>98702306OH LAWDLAWD EM RANGZ
>>98700470>WE NECROMANCERS NOWIf there are no vampires or necromancers in this AJ, I see some problems. If I understand it correctly, liche priests aren't necromancers per se - they wake up their legions, not animate corpses - the spell was cast by Nagash long time ago, they just activate it. In other words a priest can't go to the local graveyard and just raise dead. This may be a disaster lore-wise.
Funny how GW don't allow artists and designers to show their names even though it's obvious one person is working on this, one person apparently obsessed with tassles.
>>98703124forgot pic
>>98703126It's probably part of an object library in whatever software they use.
>>98702984>symmetry>>98703063>copy it>flip itYou don't even have to do that, you just start with the basic shapes (cylinder for body, sphere for head) and then sculpt with mirroring mode on. Then you just sculpt one half of the model and when you're done, slightly repose the other half. I've been learning to sculpt with some squigs and it's been easier than I ever thought it would be. I literally only have to spend my time on perfecting one leg, one eyebrow, one horn, etc etc.
>omg you guise the Kislev release is right around the corne-ACK!
Made some progress with my lord. Nowhere near done, but it's coming together at least.
>>98703124>>98703126not exactly unusual or an invention by GW. Doesn't really mean anything.
>>98703160Looks mint anon. Liking the green. May he spread the plague for Nurgle.
>>98703126>the good FW sculptor went to TOW>meanwhile in 30K
>>98703154Once again GW finds a new way to disappoint me...
>>98703179Cheers anon. I'm wondering whether I should have him vomiting some ooze from under his chain mask.
>>98703190Well, it is Nurgly. So long as he doesn't have a prolapsed anus like the AoS model, go for it.
>>98703154I knew it wouldn't be Kislev and some random AoS shit.Which hurts more because I really want Kislev
>>98696472>What do you think of the Tomb Kangz refresh?Same as all other TOW refreshes so far really, they're inoffensive and have no major fuckups which is a pleasant surprise from modern GW, so I'm happy with the overall direction of the edition, but imo they're still over-detailed for troops, not easily convertible or kitbashable, and slightly too non-heroic scale for me. And way overpriced like all GW kits these days. So like all other releases so far, I won't be purchasing. If they were cheaper and styled similarly to the new BB night goblin team, I'd be all over them. Minor gripes for the skellies: they seem to have a weird elongated gap between their pelvis and rib cage that I can't unsee. The hand weapons would have benefited from variety e.g. clubs, axes. And the HW unit champion is not doing anything to dispel my theory that GW is blatantly copying other creators' designs (picrel) and relying on a defense of "if you complain then you're admitting you copied our IP" (which would be correct lol). Has also happened with the MK2 HH marines and another one that I can't remember recently, copied detail for detail from 3rd party sculpts.>What army do you want to see refreshed next?Any legacy army, since I'm only interested in rules and expansions from GW and not so much the minis.
unimpressed by all nuGWs shart. Im looking yonder there are many better alternatives now
>>98703210Where do I unsubscribe?
>>98703203>copying other creators' designsAlso this. Could be something, could be nothing. I will be watching their future releases with interest though.
>>98703198could always go to the historical inspiration at least.
>>98703241>>copying other creators' designsI believe that was itself copied from a gw artwork
>>98702548It's baffling and sad, they had a good thing going with their dwarf range up to 6th edition, and then just completely dropped the ball from the 6.5/7e range refresh and onward.
>>98703241Isn't the left based on a piece of art by Kevin Chin?He's still working at GW so I wouldn't be surprised if did a lot of the new AoS dwarf design work
>>98703247Ha! Fair play on that one, never seen that art before. I've noticed copying older art into miniature designs is a theme among 3rd party creators too (not that I'm complaining).
>>98703268GW themselves also do this like that High elf special character is based on this old Mark Gibbons concept art from the 2000s
>>98703285wait its a WOMAN? I thought he-well she, was a riff on that one cartoon character from adult swim. I cant remember his name, or the show.
>>98703292Why did you think a character with the first name Ishaya was a man?seems to be more commonly used as a women name
What the FUCK is this skeletal anatomy?The acetabulum is not a damn hole through the pelvis you jam the caput femoris into.
>>98703268Anon, I don't wish to be that guy, but that art as been used as recently as the TOW Forces of Fantasy book.
>>98703301>What the FUCK is this skeletal anatomya 28mm fantasy mini with stylised proportions
>>98703241i said it in the other thread but i wish the new guy had his art pose and not the one they settled on
>>98703581It isn't the proportions he's talking about.
>>98703322checked, yeah I have a physical copy of that book for posterity but never pored over it, I just use the PDF to Ctrl+F straight to whichever unit profile I want to check. Personally I think using TOW for anything other than the game mechanics is a poor investment of my time so I just don't look at it. I'm guessing it's originally an 8th edition artwork because that's the only edition since 4th I've skipped entirely. I admit that my ignorance has caused a faux pas in this thread and brought shame upon my family though.>>98703301for me the weirdest thing about highlands minis skeletons is their giant ribcage. makes them easy to paint though and are perfectly good skellies otherwise.
>>98701532Melkhior/Zacharias should be lurking up in the Forest of Shadows around this time.
I'm confused by the new paint range. Are they discontinuing the old one? Are the new paints the same but rebranded?
>>98703684no, its a new line alongside the old one. But an apparently better formulation for paint.
>>98703684no the old ones are staying for now, at least.these new paint are chemically diffrent from the older stuff
>>98703301Shut the FUCK up 'Dr. V' you whale FAGGOT.NO ONE FUCKING CARES
>>98701599Thr whole "trademark friendly" names became kind of stupid for AoS. "Aelf", "duardin", and "ogor" for everything just feels way too clear they're trying to be "we are unique and most importantly trademark stable", like when fantasy authors write a name using Ys instead of various letters.
>>98703719i will never understand why this chaps so many peoples asses. fantasy shit having goofy fantasy names is like fantasy 101. thats very boilerplate stuff
>>98703735Except they are not goofy for the sake of goofy but rather goofy for the sake of trademark, which is like picrel
>>98703735If you don't get it you'll probably never get it and should join the aos team.
>>98703752there are no teams. you can just play both.i mean, unless you dont have adult money i guess.
>>98703763>AoSfagGross.
>>98703763I'm talking about as an employee. They want people like you.
>>98703109Yeah they only bring back the loyal dead. Its a fun take on a mostly neutral undead race that they've declared evil again for some reason.
>>98703719>like when fantasy authors write a name using Ys instead of various letters.the one time gw had to do that was when making up the name of the votann race, kynn instead of kin
>>98703735Personally I think it’s a major wall to getting into AoS. The names of factions no longer efficiently communicate what they’re about, you need to know the jargon of the faction to know what the name even means and relates to the models being sold.
>>98703875Honestly I think the "$300 for an 'army' of 9 dudes" might be even worse.
>>98703709I don't know who that is highlandbro.
Is there a point to making a green skin army without gobbos?
>>98703875Are you implying Slorkgit Dankmanglers aren't evocative and easy to picture? Troggoth Orrukguzzlers?Who wants a lame "night goblin" when you could have a Thwackwheezer Puffshroom?
>>98703958Why wouldn't there be?
>>98703969Just didn’t know if goblins were necessary since most of the roster are variations of goblins
Why can't GW make cute women?
>>98704014*barf*
>>98703958you got pretty much all unit and hero types except ranged cavalry, and depending on how you feel about slave gobbos you even have artillery
>>98703988Well, you can take orc mobs and one black orc mob (if you have a blorc general) in core, and they're perfectly fine to build your army around. Get some boar boys and chariots and you're good. O&Gs have a pretty wide roster of stuff that mostly works pretty well, so you can definitely make a good orc army if you want to. The only thing you're missing is artillery if you're really strict about not even having goblin crew.
>>98703965although to be fair the Dragonborn is also called the "Dovahkiin" but at least that's part of the language the Elder Scrolls writers made up, instead of whatever the fuck AoS uses
One day, you'll all see the wisdom in exclusively collecting models from 30 to 40 years ago. Liberate yourselves from the garbage pile, anons.
>>98704083I think it started with 8e dark elves with the bleakswords, dreadspears and other faggotry
>>98704014Because sexy women work better in Warhammer.
>>98703719>they're trying to be "we are unique and most importantly trademark stable", like when fantasy authors write a name using Ys instead of various lettersyep
>>98704118man is there any other faction more edgelord than dark elves?I mean Chaos Dwarfs are kind of their equivalent for Dwarfs but they're not as black or emo in color
>>98704014Corporate sensitivity team won't allow it.
>>98704083I don't think anyone has a real problem with in-setting words for things, stuff like sylvaneth and kharadron are innocuous.
>>98704135>kyng This is a Warhammer parody that made it to official print.
>>98704118That's just Dark Elves being edgelords.Cathay is newer than almost every AoS army and they have normal names, so it's clearly a setting thing.
>>98704143yeah an in-setting name for stuff is fine if it's part of the languagestuff like this is kind of dumb. Like is spelling "abhorrent" with an A instead of an E really that necessary?
>>98704018>anon when the woman isn't fat or black
>>98704135Vi var kyngar och skit.
>>98702306>GOTTA FINE US A KAAANG FOH DEM RAAANGZ
>>98702740This guy isn't bad at all, aside from the helmet as you said
is this /aosg/ or is it /wfg/get out of here
>>98704197But enough about /aosg/
>>98704284Here's a blurry WIP snotling to ward off evil
>>98704393GTFO MY LAWN UMGAK
>>98704402FIRE AT WILL
>>98704409
>>98703109According to the old barrow army lore, the people of the barrows had some form of necromantic rituals in their burial site. Their warriors were buried fully clad in weapons and armour, expecting to eventually come back and be ready for battle. Technically they should be able to reanimate without s necromancer, though having one wouldn't hurt either.
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>>98703130I would say it's a company library, rather than a software one, but yeah, GW has been digitally recycling parts from other kits and ranges since at least 2017.
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>>98704421They are swarming the walls
>>98704412There’s something hilarious about dwarfs defending a wall and then a picture being taken from the attackers side and it looks empty. Absolute kino tho chorfanon
>>98704424Get shredded by 20d3 shots of blunderbuss, that chorf qualität door is not breaking on my watch.
>>98704284Chaos warriors should always look like this.
>>98704433Yeah it's pretty funny seeing only the tall hats.>>98704436Those umgaks crashed on our walls like waves on a cliff.The fortress holds!
>1500p game, beastmen vs empire.We rolled the meeting engagement scenario in the core book and came up with a fun theme for a board being a river crossing both needed to pass/control, making it a monument of glory to have a reason to hold it as well.Pretty fun and narrative heavy game in terms of the layout and the set up.It was pretty close in terms of the points in the end, with me losing with around a 250p difference. Gore and glory were aplenty but with some unlucky rolls my forces were slain or driven back, but not after leaving only most of his forces slain, making his general and demigryph knights the only ones left on the board on his side at the end of the game.
>>98704471Here was my force in full prior to set up.
https://youtu.be/IUM62HtgXNw
>>98704527Pre measuring is unfun and takes away from any game's experience. There's nothing as fun as learning to measure by eye, pulling off critical cannon shots through guesswork and wasting a turn of shooting after discovering your target was out of range.A lot of issues with artillery could be fixed by removing pre measuring, hell, dwarves could become an army with very high skill base and ceiling if they only buffed their cannons in exchange for the measuring change.
Think I've nearly finished my Lord. Need to think about to base him now. What do?
>>98704560>There's nothing as fun as learning to measure by eyeI think skills-based betting is less entertaining than both luck-based betting and mindgames-based betting.In my experience the lack of premeasuring was only satisfying in that brief period when both you and your opponent are inexperienced enough to fail at it.
>>98704625I can’t read his left arm.
>>98704560>hell, dwarves could become an army with very high skill base and ceiling if they only buffed their cannons
>>98704625Looking great anon. I especially like the weathered/rust effects on the armour and the gore seeping out of the antlers.
>>98704151>>98704135Warhammer fans as a collective need to clown on GW harder than ever before for shit like this. It's retarded.
>>98704156It's also counter productive because google just assumes you spelled it wrong and corrects you
>>98696472Thinking of slowly getting back into old world with the new Tomb Kings coming up. And this time just taking it slow and just building and painting 1 box at a time even if the boxes are pretty large for infantry and such.
>>98704560There is nothing skill-based about cannons. You just declare that you're shooting ten inches from the back of your target and you will, statistically, almost always hit.
>>98704653Yeah, this was an issue that I generally had with the sculpt - his left arm is raised but because of the antlers the other hands either didn't fit or you couldn't see at all. In person it's much clearer he's raising his shield.>>98704660Cheers.How should I base him anons? Snow? Mud and slime? Tundra?
>>98704412Red Whippy Stick Spotted!
>>98704684Skeleton Warriors will probably be 36 models in a single box
>>98704560>Pre measuring is unfun and takes away from any game's experience. There's nothing as fun as learning to measure by eye, pulling off critical cannon shots through guesswork and wasting a turn of shooting after discovering your target was out of range.NTA but I agree. It adds to the drama of the game and to the story being told. It can turn the battle in your favour once you 'get your eye in', adding to the tension in a fun way.The most common case I hear against guessing ranges is "I shouldn't be penalised for not being able to guess ranges as well as my opponent, it's an artificial handicap", which is not a position I've ever understood. Surely it's part of the point of the game, and surely it only takes a couple games to learn how to eyeball within a few inches of your target. I can't imagine there are people out there who simply cannot learn that skill even after multiple games, so I can only assume they don't want to try? Not sure if that's too uncharitable.>>98704645>skills-basedI don't think I understand how learning to eyeball ranges is different to other skills that are generally accepted as part of the game and the responsibility of the player to git gud at, e.g. learning to use screening, baiting charges, how & when to use a refused flank or whatever. I'm open to having my perspective changed though.>>98704685>I shoot my cannon 10 inches from the back of your giantIs not a guessed range, it's just pre measuring with extra steps, no?
>>98704625Looks good anon! Good progress in just a day. >baseI'd vote either tundra or swamp. Here is a good nurgle swamp base tutorial if it helps http://www.mengelminiatures.com/2020/02/tutorial-nurgle-swamp-base.html?m=1
>>98704711Nope.
>>98704711I expected 40
>>98703719How did they escape getting clowned on?
>>98704756Looks like it's probably going to be tundra because I left the lid not fully done up on my diorama mud over the baking hot summer.
>>98704731>I don't think I understand how learning to eyeball ranges is different to other skills that are generally accepted as part of the game the other skill is just planning ahead, simple logical thinking, not something that comes exclusively from experience, or from cheating, because if you remove premeasuring people still measure indirectly through the fixed deployment distances and known movement values; even the most noble-hearted people just can't simply shut down their brains to the fact they know what are the measures involved in the game.It's not unpalatable because it's a skill that's difficult to master, but because it's only ever difficult to newcomers and because artillery gets balanced around this theoretical rarity to guess ranges correctly, but in practice it only ever meant that they were buffed to insane degrees, and were still way too reliable.
>>98704645But anon, everything in wargaming is a skill, it's just that most of them are either something we've all become quite proficient at or they've been solved by third parties and everyone just copies them.List building is a skill.Army deployment is a skill.Target priority is a skill.Movement and positioning is a skill.Yeah, the game can be a bit of a gamble most of the time, even the most solid of plans is subject to the whim of the dice, but that doesn't take away from the fact tha t the game requires different skills.Things like removing pre measuring, simplifying scenarios, standardising objectives and prioritising pitched battles have been ways in which the game hasstreamlined the skillset needed to play it, to the point where it feels like list building is the single most important thing; your game depends on how good your units are and how well you're optimising your points expenditure.
>>98696472When making a character, I remember how blueballed I felt after reading the warhammer Witchhunter trilogy. I remember really liking the inital feel of the POV witchhunter, a pragmatic witchhunter but one who had refined tastes in the arts, I think it could lead to a lot of interesting encounters. Someone who strives for the elegent, but recognizes the necessity of the rough and tumble. But to my horror, over the next few books he became super generic action-man without any really notable traits. it didnt go into his relationship with religion and the church, it literally just felt like a day job for him, his religiosity or unorthodoxy didn't play a squint of a point. His Refined artistic pallete was completely abandoned and he wasnt even a particularly good investigator even though he started out shrewd. He kind of just fell where the plot needed him... Best you could say was that he was an ok fighter and had some institutional connections., but he didnt have the fanatical grit of soloman kane or the artistic boldness of a Montaigne.It was such a fall from grace. I think that really made me want to keep the stronger atributes of my character purer. A slightly snobbish gentry outrider who wants to preserve the finer things in life but does not want to loose sight the practical realities of life. A sort of constructive pragmatist.sorry to blogpost (not sorry)
>>98703124>>98703126Could be management meddling. A former sculptor said that when a model he worked on (Hibou Khan iirc) was finally released it had had a ton of greebles added to it that the sculptor didn't intend on.>>98704774Misspelled from the beginning.
>>98704471Did a little narrative write up of the game for fun.
>>98704774Because no one fucking took them.
>>98705034I'm just mad there's not an audibook for it. I heard that it also needs a fourth book because the third doesn't fully resolve and leaves some cliffhangers. Sucks.
>>98705371Well, grimdark narrator use to have an audio version on it on youtube that I listen to. that is untill his channel got bombed.Anyways, I thought book 2 and 3 didnt fulfil on the potential of the first. especially book 3.
>>98705283Kino and inspiring as always, beastanon. Thank you
>>98702952Thank you kind anon
How inspired by Persian culture are the Chorfs?I've been thinking of writing a Persian Zoroastrian inspired faction of humans, I've been getting into WHF lore but I haven't gotten around to the Chorfs quite yet. I know they're kind of near the area of where Persia is (along with Araby).
Okay look endtimes had a lot of things wrong but I think souping all elves into an army was kinda cool and I hope we get an AOI that does something like that again.
>>98706271>souping all elves into an army was kinda cool
How boned am I coming back to warhammer with only a bunch of Khorne demons and some cahos warriors. I split from AOS after the Legion of the First Prince was nerfed and ended up selling most of my other stuff to play OPR using demons and havoc warriors.Is there a way I can play with a decent list at 750?Something like a herald in a block of blood letters, a couple furies, a unit of juggernauts, and a skull cannon?
>>98706480Demons are unfun Warriors are kinda sucky too. Your hero is gonna be the best thing you have.
>>98702306It's interesting because I feel like this range has an odd mix of pretty classic dwarfy and very 'out there' aos designs, and then some in the middle.Personally I like the more classic-looking models (queen on foot, king on foot, artillery), I like the more out-there ones (throne-boat, the golems), but the ones that are kind of a mix of both look absolurely fucking terrible (warriors, gunners, valayan guard though to be fair the valkyrie helm one is midly better). The runewright is the only model that imo succesfully combined both the older and newer design cues.Also this is without even considering the fact that this army also has fyreslayers still taped onto the side who are a whole other thing visually too
>>98706480Daemons have both an "official" legacy army list as well as a fan-made and widely accepted Renegade list. Play them if you like them. Make sure they're on squares.
>>98704412HASHUT! NAGGRUND! HASHUT! NAGGRUND!
>>98706152They're essentially mesopotamian inspiredThats pre-persian, persia conquered the region and incorporated itAny persian influence is essentially derivative rather than direct
>>98706152>I know they're kind of near the area of where Persia is (along with Araby)Nope, their main hold is in the Darklands, aka wasteland Siberia nestled in the northern parts of that region in between the Worlds Edge Mountains and Mountains of Mourn.
>>98706480>AoS refugee>Left the game because he can't be a WAACfag anymore Please don't bring your brown ass into my white neighbourhood.
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