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>tqImperial guard and I think in a gumless boy as I am still in the stl collecting phase of it. Haven’t decided on colors yet.
GW has discovered the STC for white paint!
>>98709310>TQJust started mu NL army yesterdayI apologize for the poor work I'm still really new
Anyone else not like the fact that the new LotD don't have any visual indications that they're undead ghost-skeletons? The old models had a few skulls and bones sticking out from broken armor.
>TQ Wolves Bangles KnightsCrons I don’t understand the other part of the question
What does this general think of picrel?
if 90% of the unit/vehicle is in cover it's in cover
>>98709329Better than like 90% of players kekThe lightening bolts are a bitch though, I've seen some people use copper wire painted as lightening attached to NL models to model the lightening because it looks cool.
>>98709349I was considering not doing the lighting but that idea might be too good not to use
>>98709339He seems cool
>>98709333those were the midhammer ones. the new ones are actually a return to form when they were weird boney nightlords.
Get some small bamboo skewers. You won't regret it.
>>98709333I mean you can replace the helmets with skelly heads if you want
why doesn't humanity team up with the necrons to stop the forces of chaos?
>>98709377You can find out in Age of the Emperor with Grand Alliance Order.
>>98709337>I don’t understand the other part of the questionare you retarded, or a lorelet? I can explain what it means if you’re the latter.
>>98709311>>98709374its kind of ominous how you’re not explaining why I should get one.
>>98709337
>>98709329My shit's in the mail and I'm hoping I can do as well as that first go.
>>98709398>>98709244>>98709299I said I would shout it from the highest rooftops, so that's what I'm doing.
>>98709407Thanks I just copied this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFW_iXCJS5E
>>98709310TQ: KnightsBuff them btw
>darkwing>everyone is wearing white.What the hell, Games Workshop?!
>>98709329Nah man its p gud for a noobieYou get better over time so dw about it
>>98709381can you expand on that?
There's no bodies on any of the bitz stores, which is understandable because those are the most important parts ig, but pretty annoying. Now that I've got myself thinking about it I really don't want to waste any more money than I have to. ... are there any main codex units I can use sword brethren for? Bladeguard vets I suppose but
>>98709387Just explain it or else
>>98708716The stream with erik swinson was very funny because he was a lot more down to earth about them (Still thought they were pretty good though), and he was there with Albert who was clearly trying to be conscious about not upsetting GW with anything he said.And naturally ninshill is saying they're the greatest paints ever, and GW has invented a whole new form of art.
Any reason not to go with hardware store primer spray cans as long as you do the minimum of research on the brands?
>>98709329You painted within the lines with mostly good coverage (the helm wings need a touch up,) and I don’t see any messy brushstrokes. You are 2/3rds of the way to being a mini painting master.
>>98709446I bought Wal-Mart primer and it works fine
>>98709429I really like the contrast deathwing terminators give to the rest of the army being green.
>>98709429>White>Clearly eggshell
>>98709444I’ll go with lorelet then. orks use their teef as currency, and so a gumless boy would be an ork who used up all his “money” and is broke while a toofy nob would be someone who has a lot of capital. now which are you?
>Even the Legion of the Damned's Tactical and Devastator Squads prefer to engage at point-blank range when possible. The Legion of the Damned also makes extensive use of Bike Squads, taking advantage of their superb speed and agility to launch lightning fast raids. so is we getting LotD bikes?
>>98709463I’ve got 16k worth of painted models, I’ll let you decide orkboi
>>98709468uhhh, your models aren’t a measurement of wealth, you can spend all your teef on little soldiers and then be broke.
>>98709446The paint in there isn’t as good. While the binders are probably the same, the paint might not be as fine and viscous and could clog details. There’s cheaper hobby primer out there than Citadel though, that’s just as good.
>>98709444>or elsetommy tough knuckles ova here.
>>98709477>>98709454K thanks I'll look around.
>umm, humanity was unjustified in killing xenos actually?What causes this kind of insanity?
>>98709446It can fuck up detail on the model.The Army painter/Vallejo is a good alternative to gw.
>>98709494leftists who don't understand the setting or fully believe in the "noble savage" stereotype
>>98709463would a lone ork boy who lives in an enclosed trukk be considered successful? I feel like owning a trukk would cost a lot of teef to maintain and fuel, but at the same time that would be one of his only possessions and he doesn’t have any other lads around him.
>>98709494
it's kind of crazy how few people understand that stacking defensive buffs scales up exponentially and are going "Oh it's just X number of wounds, it's just +1t"We've already had "Slow unkillable thing gets a rules nerf but more movement and more wounds" and it was C'tan that took over the entire game. The Lion is getting this treatment without the rules nerf
>>98709511>all natural things in the universe including inert entities such as rocksI've always wondered how xenos worshipping cult kept sporadically appearing across the Imperium but I guess it's just human nature.
>>98709463NTA but>Gumless boyDoesn't seem like the correct way to phrase it. That says the Boy has no gums, which means he's showing quite a bit more teeth than usual.
>>98709467no
>>98709523ah fuck, you’re right. I’m the retard here. I guess the word would be “gummy” or keep it simple as “toofless”
>>98709494Depends on the xeno, orks, drukhari, tyranids should be exterminated, it's self defenseOthers such as Craftworlders, Votann if they are not acting against humanity (depending on the faction) can be worked with and have coexisted peacfully with humans and were willing to be good with themT'au are a grey area since while not murderschizos they do wanna fundamentally take over everything under the banner of the "Greater Good"Sometime the Imperium is right, sometime they are unjustlly attacking people they can work with. But you can't really talk about this since 40K is filled with retards who either identify with factions and shill for them or insert their politics into it. Barely anyone actually discusses the universe on it's own.
>>98709533tbf, murder and genocide is bad mkay, HOWEVER from a complete political standpoint, having your neighbors be part of your in group (in this case humanity) is infinitely more preferable to having them be complete aliens who have their own culture, language, and ideas. the USA would likely never reach to the extent it has if their territories looked something like pic related.
>>98709533you can not allow Xenos to exist in a galaxy with the imperium. The Craftworld and Votann are still competitors for the galaxies limited resources
How hard is it to make shelves like this yourself?Or should I just buy them?
>look at how vicious aliens are in this universe! this is proof that humanity's crusade to kill all aliens was right!!!
>>98709533>Tau are literal fascists with a racial caste system that indoctrinate human colonies>Votann have no-bullshit Men of Iron working in their ranks >Eldar have been dicks for time immemorial Yeah I dunno man.
>>98709543Having an "in-group" will lead to bias and fighting for power. It'll lead to fractured groups fighting for power for their preferred interests America did so well because it was a people united in a shared ethnicity and culture.
>>98709550the survivorship bias meme doesn't make any sense in this context, you fucking retard
>>98709547More trouble than its worth. You'd need a table saw or a jigsaw cutter. Both cost way more than just buying one of those drawers and assembling it with wood glue.
>>98709544Bad argument since Craftworlders have a post scarcity society and just wanna avoid getting eaten by Slaanesh. The only ones that had ambition to restore the Empire were Biel-Tann and they are pretty raped. Votann can be easily boxed in and kept on a leash and traded with.>>98709543See above, can be easily boxed in and kept as defacto vassals. Humanity is under no threat from them. Imperials outnumber them a billion to one. In a galaxy with no Nids, Orks, Chaos, Drukeks, those 3 could relax together with Imperials rulling.T'au would be a problem due to their ideology.>>98709555Besides Votann, both of those apply to the Imperials tho
>>98709573>>98709533Also I forgot Necrons, Imperials are justified in killing themAlso all the previous listing were common enemies they share with Eldar and Votann, so another reason why attacking those 2 is not a good idea
>>98709566
Okay I had an idea that will help me get maximum value without wasting models, mostly by figuring out how to maximize bodies while only needing to buy peripheral parts, which are more often in stock. The idea is, I'll go ahead and buy the BT combat patrol, BA combat patrol, nemesis claw kill team, and scout kill team as planned. Then, once I've mixed together the sword brethren with the assault intercessors, I'll buy 5 jump packs and shields and use the remaining mix of 5 bodies to make vanguard veterans. After mixing together the scout squad and crusader squad initiates, I'll by a mix of regular jump packs and raptor jump packs as planned and use the 5 tacticus armored bodies in the crusader squad to mix with 5 of the nemesis claw bodies to make my death company with jump packs. This saves me from having to buy any jpi models for bodies at all. Bladeguard veterans will be saved to be later mixed with inner circle companions which leaves no leftovers. This ensures that the only leftovers are 5 nemesis claw bodies, which I will save for when I eventually want to make a second brick of death company, and 4 remaining scout bodies, which are admittedly hard to find a use for with their bare arms but maybe I can scrounge up another body that can serve as a sargeant for them to have 3 scout squads down the line, or I can use them as base decor for my aeldari later or something.
>>98709589>dude what if all all just like held hands and sang kumbaya with the alien dudes brofuckin' hippies
>>98709547I just buy some make up racks. The Chinese factory that makes the 8 tier make up racks might have stopped producing them so sellers marked up their stock like one wouldn't believe. So now it is just 7 tier makeup racks.The ones I have needed some screws for assembly.There are 7 tier ones that just snap together I think. Muh heckin' 8 tier rackerino might be discontinued so I can't use it. I'm sad bros.
>>98709590ahh, much better.
>>98709590now you're just spamming random memes, are you indian?
>>98709590Is this a thinly veiled metaphor about immigration? Someone explain it to me!!!
>>98709494It's an answer to the claim that mankind was justified in its own aggressions, which is not actually canon, but fanfiction parroted by people who feel the need to portray the imperium as infallibly moral instead of the grim dark worst regime imaginable.There was no specific or one-sided aggression from xenos towards mankind in the age of strife, no real basis for mankind to carry out retaliatory genocides during the great crusade, nor was coexistence impossible as a rule.Mankind was aggressive because it was the convenient thing to do to become the galactic top dog as fast as possible, not because it was the only way for it to survive or the moral thing to do.And despite arguments to the contrary, any morality that treats other sapient races as things that shouldn't be treated with the same fairness as your own kind is little different, morally speaking, to being sociopathic towards your own.Mankind is the good guys of 40k because they're human, not because they act morally, if you don't understand that you're in denial of the genre and want capeshit instead.
>>98709591>Okay I had an idea that will help me get maximum value without wasting models, mostly by figuring out how to maximize bodies while only needing to buy peripheral parts, which are more often in stock. The idea is, I'll go ahead and buy the BT combat patrol, BA combat patrol, nemesis claw kill team, and scout kill team as planned. Then, once I've mixed together the sword brethren with the assault intercessors, I'll buy 5 jump packs and shields and use the remaining mix of 5 bodies to make vanguard veterans. After mixing together the scout squad and crusader squad initiates, I'll by a mix of regular jump packs and raptor jump packs as planned and use the 5 tacticus armored bodies in the crusader squad to mix with 5 of the nemesis claw bodies to make my death company with jump packs. This saves me from having to buy any jpi models for bodies at all. Bladeguard veterans will be saved to be later mixed with inner circle companions which leaves no leftovers. This ensures that the only leftovers are 5 nemesis claw bodies, which I will save for when I eventually want to make a second brick of death company, and 4 remaining scout bodies, which are admittedly hard to find a use for with their bare arms but maybe I can scrounge up another body that can serve as a sargeant for them to have 3 scout squads down the line, or I can use them as base decor for my aeldari later or something.
>>98709311 What are bamboo skewers used for in this miniature painting hobby?>>>98709294>daemonifuge Is that still canon? And can I get a PDF of the whole comic book story or is it just novels now?I kind of wonder how much money Black Library could make if they made graphic novels instead of regular novels.
>>98709600>biology cartoon for middle schoolers>memebro you got filtered by something meant for children.
>>98709494Retardation.
>>98709573All eldar craftworlds are entirely built around warp derived prognostication to preserve the craftworlds, often at the cost of any and all other things around them, changing fate to kill a billion non-eldar to save one eldar is the idea. That the oracles are compromised by the warp and leads into further doom of everything they touch is part of their culture and the grim darkness.
>>98709617the fuck does it have to do with not committing justified xenocide?
Reposting my wip. Looking forward to getting home and working more on it. Still thinking about adding more corpses.>>98709359Holy kino. One of the few marine kits from that time that I don't have. One day maybe.
>>98709550If the aliens weren't able to stand up to a small force of savages, they wouldn't have survived in the galaxy for very long anyway. If the aliens are putting up a fight, they are too dangerous to be left alive. Simple as.
>>98709624let me explain the comic in 40k terms>there are 2 groups of xenos>happy xenos :)>mean xenos >:(>the imperium comes to their neighborhood and starts killing everyone>the happy xenos :) don't have the military to fight back and go extinct>the mean xenos >:( start cheating and use things like "tactics" and "stealth" to survive>after thousands of years of killing xenos all the happy xenos :) are dead and only the mean xenos >:( are left
>>98709640the only good xeno's a dead xeno
>>98709610>It's an answer to the claim that mankind was justified in its own aggressions, which is not actually canonThey figured this out between the Age of Strife and [present time] after countless humans perished at the hands of xenos.
>>98709410Thank for you pointing out what they're for. I feel stupid for not figuring that one out.
>>98709566Hes inferring that all the non violent xenos that would have stayed neutral or even become trading partners/allies got genocided by the imperium so now only the outright hostile and violent ones that wage war remainwether or not thats actually a canon fact I cannot say
>>98709646The point is that's not actually canon at all.
>>98709640Remember when we went through this list and figured out the ratio of hostile to non-hostile? I do. It was not even remotely close to in your ideological favour. Not even in the same order of magnitude. Its a grim dark universe primarily filled with bad shit. The humans are bad too. Everyone's fucked, everything sucks. That's the idea. That you need to turn it into some asinine critique of imperialism is transparent and hollow as you ignore all posted evidence.
>>98709616>Is that still canon?Yeah, GW even made a model a few years ago
>THE XENOS WUZ GUD BOIS THEY DINDU NUFFIN DEY WUZ GOIN TO COLLEGE IN THE FALLuh-huh
Sometimes, I am tempted to just bin/recycle models. I cannot sell them. I won't be using them. Half of them are kit-bashed abominations that other people won't necessarily like. Others are kits that no one wants or has no second hand market.
>>98709668I see GW was getting in on the>screaming womanmeme
>>98709661I'm not going to crack open my hard copy of 10th edition rules to check, but I'm pretty sure you're wrong about that.I vaguely seeing a picture of a mushroom carrying a gun with the caption "the universe is full of shit that hates humanity"
>>98709621>often at the cost of any and all other things around them, changing fate to kill a billion non-eldar to save one eldar is the ideaNot really this is exaggarated, it does happen sometimes, but not that often and a lot of them aren't malicious towards humans for the sake of hating humans. They are willing to fuck over others mostly because those others are hostile to them with a kill on sight policy. Eldar do value their own over others, but so does everyone else. In the scenario where they were allied with Imps & Dorfs they would have much more breathing room and less visions of doom.Plus Eldar are even less of a rival than Votann since they have no need for resources and own no land. Take out Biel Tann maybe and work with the rest (especially with Ynnari, but that plotline is RIP)
>>98709611Yes, I am treating being a special snowflake as an addictionSpeaking of, what methods do y'all think I can use to make them fly? I'm thinking of doing the "slam a hot metal rod into their boot" thing, then covering the rod with putty and sculpting it to look like rock to get that jump look
Are there any stores in Tokyo that sell Warhammer shit with discount? GW prices in Nippon are crazy high, I refuse to believe that official stores are the only places to get 40k crack here.
>>98709310>TQGreed/green is good. Took this over a year ago, although I'm thinking I should do an updated version once I finish my VERY procrastinated Stompa
>>98709533>But you can't really talk about this since 40K is filled with retards who either identify with factions and shill for them or insert their politics into it. Barely anyone actually discusses the universe on it's own.Pretty much. And that isn't restricted to this place or Xitter/Reddit political echo-chambers. In general the community is larp central.
>>98709688The entire race inspired by elric of melnibone is fated to be their own doom through prophetic meddling. That's their entire fucking deal. They fucked up at a minimum 2 primarchs, trying to kill Angron, trying to inform Fulgrim. They were an essential part of the Cabal, an entire collection of xenos dedicated to the destruction of humanity. That's before we even get out of the 20th millennium. Stop with your bullshit cope.
>>98709668With the change to fights first I don't even know what this broad and her twink are good for.
>>98709633This is rad as fuck, cant wait to see it finished. Are you planning to add a curb below the yiffs head or are you leaving it as is? Also more corpses sounds fun, though make sure they are all furfags
>>98709329Good shit anon. For a firstimer youre incredible. Some quick suggestions if you're willing to take it up a notch:>Try some shades and some highlights. So far your models looks a lot like youve applied a lot of very clean basecoats. Try giving some areas, like the silver or the red some appropriate shades, and then readd some of the og colors to make it pop. Its possible you already did this step, but it doesnt come through in the pic. >Definitely apply something to the base. A bit of texture paint and then some rocks glued on or tufts go a long way to making a model seem complete. >If you wanna paint lightning, an easy way I do it is I pick the color I want, in my case pink and follow the method of dark and big to light and small. >So I start >Big purple lines, slightly jagged.> Dark pink lines within that previous layer, > Brighter and smaller pink lines within that layer, >repeat as desired >End with either dots or very thin lines of pure white.
Does anyone think the buffs to Lionel and Gullyman are weird from a lore perspective? Their power levels should be below their daemon siblings
>>98709705>30th millennium Potato.
>>98709668I forgot about that model. Thanks anon!
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98709667>wenigga is fighting ghostsI'm not the person you argued with however many threads ago but again, the xenos in 40k are going to be inclined to be aggressive because all the non aggressive ones died to the imperium 10,000 years ago. >Its a grim dark universe primarily filled with bad shit. The humans are bad too. 40k being a shitty universe is like 80% the imperium and 20% the eldar's fault. In 30k it would probably be an even 50/50 split.
>>98709333My gripes is that they're very copy-pasted, the flame effects don't look great, that they skimped out on the decorations and that they really should have kept the drawn/sculpted flame motifs from before.As it stands I'd rather wait for some Mk7 marines from HH and sculpt bones and flames on them
It might appear that the joke this time around is sex, but that's a red herring. The humor actually derives from the subtle mocking of a very specific overlap between the 40k community and a subcategory of the readership of Japanese funny pages.
>>98709731Yes it's retarded
>>98709667I always like to imagine it's Chaos echoing back. Like when Khorne was born, it triggered wars, Nurgle triggered pestilence, etc. It's not just us reflecting in the Warp, the Warp reflects back at us and who's the loudest voices? The Dark Gods. Triggering baser impulses and making everyone a little bit more of an asshole towards each other. And those who aren't effected, are drowned in assholes.
>>98709429God the new deathwing knights are such a disagrece, can't believe people suck this shit off.
>>98709310>TQGutless boy who wields Storm Lords mareens.
>>98709705>brings up Cabal>saying I'm the one with the bullshit copeLmao Eldar were responsible for killing that. Not even near the majority of Eldar were part of that.>Ulthwé Farseer Eldrad Ulthran eventually came to view the Cabal as a threat to the galaxy. He believed that their path of destroying Humanity to kill the Chaos Gods was little more than a hopeless ritual sacrifice. Eldrad saw a new path beyond the acuity, one that involved helping the Imperium emerge victorious through actions such as aiding Vulkan in reaching Terra. However the Cabal refused to relent in its path, and Eldrad thus recruited the Word Bearer Barthusa Narek in a bid to eliminate the Cabal's members. Eldrad and Narek killed most of the Cabal's leadership and agents, including Gahet, Slau Dha, Cartur Umenedies, and Damon Prytanis.And also Eldar brought back Guillaman which gave humans a big boost.This is just Imperium fanboyism.
>>98709686>"the universe is full of shit that hates humanity"in the 41st millennium, after galaxy wide genocides carried out by humanitythere's never been any text, paragraph, or suggestion, that all, or even most, intelligent aliens were naturally hateful towards mankind specificallythe age of strife wasn't a difficult time just for mankind, but for any and all races that relied on the warp, and mankind was never merely a passive pacifist presence wherever it went before the age of strife and great crusadethe idea that humanity learned to be xenophobic with the age of strife because they discovered all xenos turned out to be fundamentally evil is pure headcanonthe setting never tried to portray humanity as any less aggressive, opportunistic and expansionist as other races
>>98709754Gumless I mean, I am mobile posting from my wagie cagie.
>>98709739>80% the imperium and 20% the eldar's faultThis is a bit too weighty for just these 2 factions. I'd say>30% God Emperor >10% imperium>15% eldar>20% tyranids>20% orks>5% others
>>98709435You can use them for anything. I made a hellblaster sergeant from one of them.
>>98709333I think some people have just mythologized and imagined the LotD as being way more over the top than they ever actually were in the models. I do wish they were more obviously decrepit though.
>>98709494If humanity is justified into going on the great crusade, then it defeats the point of 40k. Simple as.Were there many terrible xenos out there? Of course, 40k is a horrible and brutal place, but if the imperium doesn't run on ignorance and the same brutality, then it goes against the point of the setting.This is not a real debate, some people just want the imperium to be legitimate in their violence as validation by proxy.A lot of people need to learn to separate fiction from reality, and unfortunately they never will.
>muh imperium is good>muh xenos are good>muh justificationLol screw that noise40K is just over-the top cool dudes fighting other over-the-top cool dudes. Lore is irellevant fluff. 40K is about the rule of cool.
>>98709762>15% eldarCounting or not counting Drukhari violence?
>>98709731Nah.It's heavily hinted at in the Lion book that all of the primarchs are daemon-human hybrids capable of coming back from death. Lionel Johnson spends most of his days walking through 'the forest', which is his mind's interpretation of the warp, skipping from planet to planet and killing heretics. They are total bullshit but at least they are faithful to the lore.
>>98709786dunno, ask /hhg/
Stop trying to emphasize with the alien that wants to kill you just because you hate your daddy.
>>98709790What?
>>98709781GET DOWN CHARLIUS THE KIRKITE
>>98709727Thanks I haven't done the shading yet or but I appreciate the advice.You guys are convincing me to add lighting to the armor
>>98709791Same, but also stop trying to empatize* with the horrible humans that also want to kill you just because you hate your mommy
>>98709791That's a weird projection.
>>98709773>then it defeats the point of 40k. Simple as.40k is a dystopia though. The imperium may be bad but literally everything else is worse, unless you're one of those retards who thinks literal wrench monkeys discredit every bad thing that has happened to humanity.
>>98709773>A lot of people need to learn to separate fiction from reality, and unfortunately they never will.ironic. You've got a weird idea about whatever justification means that is attached to some moral background that isn't part of the setting. It runs on ignorance and brutality because that's effective in the grim darkness. It literally tells you to forget about liberal humanist progress in the opening blurb to the game since day one.
I'm a zoomie newfag who got into the actual hobby this year, played 40K before vidya and never been in hobby spaces prior to this. I'm wondering was 40K community always full of political inserting and people fanboying hard for the various armies regarding who is right in the lore?Or was this a recent development?
me when someone starts defending xenos to my face IRLhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v62QkD_q1bs
>>98709807>but literally everything else is worsetau, votann and eldar aren'tthey are only the enemy because they aren't human
>>98709731Daemonification really should just be a sidegrade for most primarchs>but horus was strong enough to face the emperor!!Horus was juiced up by all four and wasn't necessarily turned into a demon like fulgrim or w/e, it's probably more like the demon roids thing abaddon has going on
>>98709819I'm entirely convinced it's localized to the internet where everyone has time to argue. Not once have I heard one of these fuck ass debates in person at the FLGS.
>>98709819>as a zoomie >recent ehhhh sort of? However old you were in 2016? Most humans lost their mind around then and the ability to separate hobbies and fiction from irl ideological preferences got permafucked.
Where are people getting the points for the snowflake marine chapters? I've only seen the points list for the codex floating around.
>>9870981940k is inherently political. The problem is that the imperium is fighting for the survival of the human race, so they are the quintessential good guy faction, but they do a lot of bad shit in the process of making that happen.Autists who have difficulty separating reality from fantasy think that saying 'the emperor did nothing wrong' (factually true according to the lore by the way) is a tacit solicitation for space fascism or whatever.
>>98709824>Horus was juiced up by all fourI thought it was just Khorne
>>9870983717. I wasn't following any 40K hobby/lore forums, I just played some 40K vidya
>>98709823All of those factions kill/brainwash humans all the time. What are you even talking about.
>>98709819Vapid consumerism has caused people to believe that you are what you like so if you like playing as the uber space nazis then you're a real nazi. 40k has always had a lot of discussion about morality and political analogues to real life events are baked into the lore (not as much as when it was a smaller franchise, but Ghazkhull's full name is literally Margaret Thatcher, for instance). tl;dr people take shit that GW put no thought into too serioisly
>>98709844almost like it's a galaxy where you have to be brutal and inhumane to surviveIn our universe the Emp would be a mixed bag, but he's objectively the good guy in the setting
>>98709862It's true, I'm a based chud IRL but I play CSM because they look cool.
>>98709871>In our universe the Emp would be a mixed bagLOL
>>98709862>Ghazkhull's full name is literally Margaret Thatcher, for instancecommon misconceptionI'll also add that the analogues for real life events are mostly third-order simulacra: attempts to imitate pre-existing analogies of depictions of real events (real events => history => Dune => 40K)so basically we're on the same level of relevancy as Tron: Ares
>>98709840Doesn't goonertop battles have the points for some stuff listed in their preview on their website?
>>98709871If a prescient, glowing, brown-skinned giant arrived on earth he would be worshiped as a deity by everybody.
>>98709847So recent will adjust as you age a bit but if you're 27 now things that were 10 years ago might not count as recent to you, it was more than a third of your life ago. There's a lot of dumb bullshit that came with american election 2016 insanity, you can see both sides of the retard coin here >>98709844>>98709823where they will simultaneously claim everything is political but only the parts they agree with are okay while shitting everything up around them. Various LGSs did some of this insanity, its calmed down post covid thank god but whatever kind of optics people required to stay in business is always going to be part of the milieu now. Don't worry about it too much, anyone focusing on their angle being more true or correct that lines up with their irl politics are easy to spot after a while. You can largely ignore them, read the fluff you find interesting, play the games you think are cool.
>>98709819People who actively participate in the hobby and don’t mind James Workshop fucking them in the ass are hobbyists. They play/paint for the sake of it and could give less of a shit about muh lore. They’re paypigs and they’re the only reason why this hobby still stands. The people you’re talking about are fags who don’t play/paint
>>98709891nah I'd call it a psyop
>>98709886>basically we're on the same level of relevancy as Tron: AresGrim.
>>98709886can't we at least be Tron: Legacy? I liked that one
Anyone have that story about the Ork player that openly talked like he spent all day on /pol/ at his lgs but he never got kicked out because he funded the store by buying ork kits almost every day?
>>98709917yes
>>98709914No can do, Tron: Legacy was still trying to make a (naive) statement about IRL creative industries.
>>98709923I just liked when he went into the old arcade and Journey started playing
>imperium good cuz they're humansWhile I do think Imps are one of the good guys for different reasons, this doesn't really fly as it's trying to present a particularist claim as a universalist one. It's just self-inserting not really looking at any in-universe logic.Since if elves/dwarves whatever were real they would just say the same and identify with their guys. That's particularism so there are no universal good guys there, just following the in-group's interest.I think a better distinction would be:Order - trying to preserve their species and not actively just seeking perpetual war/inflicting suffering for the sake of it while pursuing their own interestsImperium, Eldar, Tau, Votann (maybe Silent King though Necrons being soulless robots puts them into question)Destruction - actively seeking perpetual war/inflicting suffering for the sake of it or to damn everyone to the dark godsEveryone elseI'd say order's aims are noble while they have their individual flaws they would be the "good guys" compared to everyone else. I do think the Imperium are ome of the good guys, but not the only ones. And no I'm not a leftist nor do I self insert into 40K since it's a fictional setting with silly incoherent lore lol
>lorefags
>>98709791>I would LIKE IT if you would STOP KILLING US
>>98709933>And no I'm not a leftistSome chuds see Imperium as jeets and Eldar as the "real Aryans" so not all right wingers identify with Imperium.
>>98709933>they would just say the same and identify with their guysWelcome to the real world, anon.
>>98709339I'm very disappointed with the Lorebeards show he does. Half the time it feels like neither hosts know what they're talking about, and they have only uninteresting and brainlet takes.
>>98709840Dataslates exist
>>98709952I know anon, I was just pointing out that's why presenting a particularist claim as a universalist one is bad logic.
>>98709933Order is Imperium Eldar (of all stripes, including dark) Tau Votaan Chaos is ChaosDeath is Nids GSC (Ultimately seek to consume all)Destruction is Orks, as they're the only ones blowing shit up for the love of the game, and Necrons (Who are 90% soulless killing machines and 9% people infected with one of two seperate viruses that make you want to destroy everything)
>>98709807>though>not a rebuttalThank you?>>98709817This is aimed specifically at retards like you, do not @ me
>>98709933Get >>98706353
>>98709894>but only the parts they agree with are okay When I said 40k was political, I meant its a dystopia that deals with various factions competing for survival and how they go about doing that. Not that it's a reflection of how things ought to be IRL.Maybe get your head checked.
>>98709933>order>destruction>other dudesWait a minute, this is just WFB!
>>98709960>including dark)OP here, I disagree since Dark Eldar can choose to either join Ynnari or Craftworld/Exodite/Harlequins to not need to torture, but they don't want to since they want to be murderous degens. Dark Eldar are malicious for the sake of it and belong firmly in Destruction.>>98709973Yeah, but it applies here too when you compare "order" to the rest of the armies
>>98709959100% of people consuming 40k are humans, humans in general have a pro-human bias, thus universally humans are the good guys in 40k.
>>98709980No that doesn't follow. Since that says nothing who's good according to the in-universe logic and is just self inserting. It doesn't make a particularist claim into a universalist one.
>>98709978dark eldar are all murderous degens but they generally want the other races to survive so they can keep torturefucking them for eternitythat's why they sometimes just come out of nowhere to save craftworlders (like against the Nids)
>particularist>universalistI can promise you 90% of the thread doesn't know what those 2 mean philosophically.
*farts*
>>98709511Hilarious that right wingers still don't understand this chart
>>98709994They are still doing so for the sake of enabling continous malice. It would be like Orks sparing/saving someone just so they have a fun enemy to fight in the future.
I like orks :D
[Cabal, Warpstrike] 3DPDP with wings, Tzagulla, TzeentchDiscolordKravek Sorc lord in terminator, Akshur Binding Runes, familliarWarpsmith, touched by the warp10 cultists10 Legionaires with balefire/reaper/havoc/heavy melee10 terminators, heavy flamer, reaper autocannon, 2 chainsts, 3 powerfists, 5 accursed weapons5 havocs, melta,2 autocannos, 1 chainautocanon, missile launcher2 oblitsDefiler with dual lascanon and ectoplasma and excruciatorsvenomcrawlerIs this list ok for 2k? Warpsmith and havocs babysit the defiler, Kravek goes with oblits into reserves, so does Sorc lord and terminator brick, anything that doesn't fit reserves goes to tie up middle till the hammer can come down and hopefully retreat into reserves afterwards.
>>98709900Don't associate hobbyists with jersey wearing compfags, it's rude.
>>98710022H-He’s literally me…
>>98709960>OrderImperiumTauVotann>ChaosChaos>DeathEldarNecrons>DestructionTyranidsOrks
>>98710022>danger hair on a manDisastrous
>>98709774orks
>>98709819>I'm wondering was 40K community always full of political inserting and people fanboying hard for the various armies regarding who is right in the lore?Just ignore the twitterfags they usually don't own models anyway.
>>98710022The tattoo is what sells it for me
>>98709849and they're still better than humans
managed to snub a box today, wonder if they'll refresh them this edition. Also between the HH combo box with Cathapracts, Discolord/cultists combo box and IW combat patrol which one would be a better go if I already have warpsmith (but have spare 32/40mm round to remake the Patrol one into something else), daemon prince and some old chaos space marines?
>>98709819These people have always existed in the hobby but IRL they're less likely to sperg out on people and are very subtle about how much they dicksuck their faction or think 40k agrees 100% with their politics compared to online where they go full retardIn my experience its almost always imperial guard and space marines (excluding blood angels and salamanders) especially space wolves and black templars players that do this
why is this fag like 4 days late?
>>98709834Same here, I've NEVER in all my years interacting with other people in this hobby heard anything of the sort. It was just neutral lore discussion when it came up usually boiling down to "X is cool or interesting bit of lore"
>>98709894>while shitting everything up around them.I did nothing of the sort, I stated a fact, which is that eldar, tau and votann live by better standards and morals than humansthis doesn't mean that they're flawless, this doesn't mean that everything else gets shat on, this doesn't mean that mankind isn't the good guy protagonist faction, it means that the good guy protagonist faction is less moral than some of its enemies, and the protagonist good guys we most follow because they're human, not because they're the goodest guys.
>>98709819I'd say it started when the left starting demanding female space marines and continue to push their political ideology into the setting.There's a reason they ALWAYS claim 40k is actually "mocking" it's fans
>>98710078I hope they refresh him too. I got 2 of the IW combat patrol boxes because you just get some good units in there, and the upgrade sprue is really nice for helmets and pauldrons. Pick whatever faction or warband you think would be the most fun and interesting to you.
>>98709819dude GW literally told people they support BLM and if you don't then you shouldn't play their game
>>98710115well i do want to do IW hence I even started to consider the heresy one with melee leviathan even if i'd have to kitbash/proxy it into something else and remaining 2 both have merits to them
>>98710106>when the left starting demanding female space marinesis the left in the room with us right now?
>>98710139disingenuous post is disingenuous
>>98710115>I hope they refresh him tooI can only imagine the price. The current one costs 50% of a full CSM Termie squad, HQ prices are fucking insane.
>>98709743I prefer gw's interpretation of vaguely anime inspired aliens due to being ignorant brit nerds that had little exposure to actual asian culture (internet or otherwise) over knowledgeable weeaboos stuffing them full of stereotypical anime bullshit.
>>98710139lol
>>987101713 blurbs for a faction that really wasn't a faction for over 30 years and were just background, essentially a maleable non-lore
Been working on a mek gun. Gonna put it aside so I can order a 100mm base to slap it and the grots on. Gonna start on the new trukk, next. Really hoping there's enough leftover bits to properly orkify a printed trukk I've been mulling over what to do with for a year or so now.
>>98709990Who's gooder than the main character?
>>98710136Honestly, of all the CSM armies, IW marines from the HH range would blend in the best in a CSM army. The bits just fit so well and already have the IW aesthetic of "were chaos warped but not THAT warped" I also picked up some chosen marines awhile ago and gave them helmets and shields on their backs for the pic related upgrade pack.>>98710153It is what it is, spending habits for me have definitely slowed down.
>>98709819Autism is a hell of a drug anon.I personally blame main character syndrome being why everyone wants to use anything to get a message out because they're the one who is right and everyone else is an NPC.As for Warhammer 40k being satirical. It is satirical in the sense that all of it's cruel means are not only inevitable due to the conditions of the galaxy but also necessary for the survival of mankind. The excesses are the result of bureaucratic incompetence worn down by unending wartime. The reasoning is still justified. But a lot of nerds will come in and make or parrot myths about oldhammer and what the satire is. The 'satire' part is a good panic button for GW's PR team to press if I'm being honest.I still don't know what "tourist" means in normiesphere speak. But given that supposedly some of the net is downstream from this site, I wonder if "post models" has reached the normiesphere.
>>98710106You know that its all shitposters right? Do you think that people who vote democrat dont use the internet outside of facebook boomers and dont get a kick out of pissing you off with blatantly retarded posts like you do to them?
>>98709819Normies and social leeches are mostly recent, if a decade+ is "recent"
>>98710202>it's just shitposting brogod damn that's some massive cope my niggaYou know you can actually read the reddit thread of the person who made those models, crying about how proud they are the the lgbtq marines got featured in white dwarf.my god you're dumb
>>98710184>existed in the setting since RT>had models before SoB>been a full faction for a decade>several codexes, army lists, supplements and books all saying the same thing>"no, those don't count, only this social media post counts"
>>98710199tourist and larper are zoomie speak for poser
>>98710202>>98710184Its the actual >it didn't happen>if it did happen it was just a little bit and it didn't matter lol lmao
>>98709819>I'm wondering was 40K community always full of political inserting and people fanboying hard for the various armies regarding who is right in the lore?Like in any fandom there were always people like that, but it was a rounding error until the early 2010s.40k, like Star Wars, D&D, videogames o any other nerdy IP began to be flooded with neurotic attention whores and culture war grifters trying to make everything about themselves. You can trace it all to the gamergate/2016 election years.If you look into old 40k forums still alive or the 4chan /tg/ archive, it's easy to see the before and after.
>>98710217What you're seeing is the old 'denial and downplay' actions.Just learn to look, laugh and laugh harder when it keeps going.
>>98710222dude Star Wars is literally about how the vietnam war was bad.Lucas talked about it
In my opinion warhammer powescaling arguments would all be solved if we just put things into the following tiers and just left it at "everything in the same tier is on more or less the same league, people one tier down can beat the tier above them by teaming up and having a really good plan" as followsLiteral God Tier: Chaos Gods, Big E, C'tan, etc. Shouldn't be on tabletopDemigod Tier: Primarchs, Avatar of Khaine, Greater Demons. Allowed on tabletop but should be rare. In lore stronger than vehicles but on tabletop it's good that they aren't, as we have nowMech/Tank Tier: Imperial Knights, Wraithknights, bigger tau battlesuits, biggest tyranid monsters, various tanks Peak Mortal Tier: Custodes, Chapter Masters, Phoenix Lords, Chaos Champions, Tyranid Monsters, medium battlesuitsElite Troops Tier: Terminators of all stripes, wraithblades, small battlesuits, tyranid small monstersSkilled troops tier: Marines, Aspect Warriors, Tyranid special units, fire warriors, sisters, elite guardsmen, the majority goes in this tier Chaff tier: guardsman, gaunts, etc. As I said in the beginning, characters can beat others a tier up with a good plan and team coordination, beating anything two tiers up requires a large numbers disparity and an incredible plan that expertly exploits the targets weaknesses, and so on. I didn't include titans because even though they are on tabletop they aren't really characters even in the way that tanks or mechs are. Tanks or mechs usually have a specific crew that can function as a focused group of characters, titans are more like moving fortifications or starships that more are used to setup the conditions in which characters fight
>>98710229>muh /pol/it's a chud site you dense fuck
>GW makes company-wide price increases today>Sentinel went up 1 (one) dollarGenuinely why even change it such a small amount? ONE extra dollar?
>>98710237Go have your melty somewhere else, you're losing composure over the gays on a tabletop gaming board.
>>98710237ntab this argument is retarded since youre spamming off topic shit, fuck off back to your containment board
>>98710233Where do Harlequins fall on your tiers?
>>98710233>phoenix lords >mortals It is their fate to get clowned on but they're in the wrong lore category. Add a hard line between >Literal God and >demigod No amount of good planning should have a bunch of knights beating a chaos god. You also forgot titans and spaceships.
>>98710245Small family company, they need every dollar they can get anon, you don't want them out of business now do you?
>>98710245You gotta boil the frog slowly. 2-5% increase in price two to three times a year until nobody notices they're paying double the price they paid ten years ago for the exact same kit.
I might not make it in time for the collage I've gotten addicted to wow again
>>98710233This is my favorite style of bait post in these threads. Guaranteed replies.
>>98710252While I think people saying solitaires stomp custodes are a bit wankish I think it's reasonable to put them about equal, so peak mortal >>98710253>It is their fate to get clowned on but they're in the wrong lore category.I also put lucius the eternal in that category. I simply do not think they are or should be considered primarch and greater demon tier, the avatar of khaine fills that spot much better>>98710253>No amount of good planning should have a bunch of knights beating a chaos god.Well yeah, but that's an outlier. The gap between god tier and demigod tier is by far the biggest gap, the rule I laid out at the end is more a general guideline that's more about how enough guardsmen can take out terminators with melta grenades and superior positioning
>>98710245>ONE extra dollar?How many sentinel kits do you think they sell a year? Now add up all the kits and all the price increases. Note how it coincides with the C-Suit's bonuses.
>>98710267Nah I unironically believe that adhering to a system like this more strictly would help lore stop having as many weird turbowank moments
>>98710233Phoenix Lords are on the level of primarchs though?
>>98710247NTA but the LGS to play Warhammer 40k is a den of severe autists.Now couple that with social issues and the sensitivity of rainbow and possibility of bad PR and possibility of bricks through the window and management will side with the autist who thought your breathing was problematic for a moment. Some autists have figured this out and are now "gaming" the system to abuse rule loopholes and "subtly" threaten to accuse someone of being a phobe of anything to get their way and in tabletop games.>t. one wig autist was doing this at the LGS and got banned years agoI still don't know how he was found out. Autism is a weird loose cannon but I guess some guys went NSA on him.
>>98710237No it isn't, you election tourists spamming your offtopic shit outside of your containment board doesn't change what the site is
>>98710245>Sentinel went up 1 (one) dollarThe Imperial Guard sentinel?I expected the guard stuff to go up more because I think the Imperial Guard is proxied more than any other army in Warhammer 40k. And GW is weird with business decisions too.
>>98710282Yeah, your scale is bad, you don't know what words mean and you don't understand teh lore. 2/10 its at least in the right shape.
>>98710171GW really should have just said "we're retconning" and I'd respect them more but it's like they're goddamn allergic to admitting they're doing things different to how they did before.
>>98710298Yeah I'd appreciate if they were honest about their changes in that respect.
>>98710290Newfag who doesn’t know shit about the site talking shit>>98710288It fucking sucks because at several game stores I have to walk on eggshells being scared of some imaginary dog whistle.Hell I’ve seen people to scared to disagree with femstodes
>>98710291Yea, the guard oneIt was 48 USD yesterday, 49 now.That was just the smallest price change I found when I brushed over them today. The Cadian Command Squad also increased in price 1 dollar.Some units didn't change at all, like the Imagifier, but of those that did, 1 dollar (0.75 GBP) was the smallest change.Then there's the Baneblade, which has gone up 45 dollars since 2 months ago, and is a huge part of a non-zero of tourney-winning guard rosters, so they're in demand.
I have a lore question.Do Orks 'need' clothes in the traditionally sense? The ordinary boy isn't dressed thickly and so isn't protected from the elements. Utility belts and armour obviously provide a practical use, but clothes themselves don't really seem to be something Orks necessarily bother with. Yet, they always have clothing, and clothing that fits.Orks don't have genitalia as we understand, so the social shame of exposing yourself isn't an issue.There is evidence of fashion with orks, especially around colours, clans and other things, but this usually goes on armour. The only 'fashion' that doesn't involve armour seems to be Freeboota hats.Im my head, I am imagining pic related. An Ork goes to the Ork equivalent of T.J Maxx or Next. The shop is run by grots but has a 'Janitor' (Runtherd who is unpopular by Runtherd standards) who oversees the grots at work while the Ork goes for a fitting and shoe measurement.
>>98710282aren't soltaires the closest there is to unbound eldar since their forfeit their soul to slaanesh to use their full potential staying sane only due to cegorach's influence?
>>98710287Even if they are in some showings they really shouldn't be, and tabletop reflects that>>98710292>having a melty over the definition of one word Mortal is used here in contrast to the divinity of the above tiers, rather than their relationship to death, which is perfectly linguistically valid and also true in lore. Sure, phoenix lords, custodes, and dante will probably all be alive 5000 years from now but they are clearly different from primarchs made from the god emperor directly and greater demons that literally cannot die in any sense
>>98710310>Orks don't have genitalia as we understand, so the social shame of exposing yourself isn't an issue.Getting a boot to the dangley bitz has been a thing since at least gorkamorka. Put some pants on for zog's sake.
>>98710310an ork wif cloves gotta lot more places to carry alla his dakkaunna dem nakey grots wif nutin on him gonna get his teef krumped real good by da boy wif sum squig leatha
>>98710233power scaling is gay and wrongif your scale doesn't allow a grot to kill a god, then you're doing something wrong, and are insecure about something
>>98710307>It fucking sucks because at several game stores I have to walk on eggshells being scared of some imaginary dog whistle.>Hell I’ve seen people to scared to disagree with femstodesThat's toxic positivity in a nutshell. Ironically makes "safe spaces" become uncomfortable for everyone as now everyone is afraid of accidentally saying or doing something or "satirically" existing in a way that could be seen as problematic and then getting banned. The way so many people who like DKOK and field them seem to have a pre-programmed speech about how they aren't fascists is funny in a morbid way. I do envy how some of the TTRPG crowd at my LGS that learned how to dodge the rainbows by having their DM and players in on the "we can't handle more players" thing and then that's it. I'm not sure if any autists have caught on yet. I'm grateful that Warhammer 40k for the most part in my engagement is just 1v1 casual games. Haven't been in a campaign with multiple people but hopefully the "we can't handle more people please" excuse will work.
>>98710320>still alive 5000 years from now Oh lol you actually don't know how phoneix lords work.
every time im drunk in the evening i open /40kg/ and see whats cookingso what waac armies have been ruined lately or whose book series tanked recently and is 11th edition still a big thing
>>98709731unironically you just have to wait until they do the chaos codexesChances are Fulgrim's datasheet will be unrecognisable considering how he was universally considered middling at best when he launched, and that was before GW turned fights first into a meme ability
>>98710288>>98710307>>98710337What fucking planet are your LGS located on. Is this a US centric problem? I genuinely can't believe this idea that half the store is filled with neurotics that will lose their minds over the slightest possible infraction or comment on something they approve or disapprove of unless you're walking in there and calling the guy at the paint section a slur.
>>98710310>Orks don't have genitalia as we understand, so the social shame of exposing yourself isn't an issue.They hide their butts because they're embarrassed by them because showing butt means you're caught in a silly and vulnerable pooping position, or getting slapped by a bigger ork.And in front they have a shroom-like growth they pee from, and excrete spores with the pee, and it's different for every ork so they all hide it to fit in better.>sourceyour mom.
>Star War Legion is dying a second time>Starcraft TMG never even got off the ground>Infinity is buried>Halo Flashpoint is declining fastMeanwhile 40k only continues to growIs it just market momentum or is GW actually doing something right?
>>98710339Never learned to comprehend the main idea of a written passage award>>98710335If anyone can win at any time then the story has absolutely no stakes
>>98710349Hes making shit up for (You)s, ignore
>>9871035240k has more going on outside of just being a game. How often have you seen people use those other games to make big dioramas for example.
>>98710355>If anyone can win at any time then the story has absolutely no stakeson the contrary, it has all the stakes, it wouldn't have any stake if there was an objectively determined strongest guy at any given encounter.You fundamentally don't understand stakes.
>>98710349I played AOS in a very obvious lefty group but they were mostly chill. Hell there was a right wing sperg they were cool with.He even talked to them about having to hide his power level and they just nodded alongI don't know if it's just my city that's liberal but my god AoS players are almost always leftists
>>98710307>Newfag who doesn’t know shit about the site talking shitProjection, I've been here since /tg/ opened and it radically changed in 2015Go look at /40kg/ in 2012 in the archives and see zero culture war faggotry
>>98710355>so mad their tiers are fucked they can't into a sentence You don't even get an award its remarkably common.
>>98710376I’ve been on this site since 2014The only thing that’s changed are people like you who try to poison the well.>there was no culture war shit in 2015Nigger game gate was in 2014 you stupid lying ass
>>98710390You are actually illiterate lmao
>>98710352Different builds.Starwars anything is always better as pump & dump. The mouse trying to make a new one every year burnt out even that desu. Starcraft and Halo are at least a decade late. I hear the Halo game is actually fun to play but no one outside of a small amount will give a fuck. Its also not designed as a 40k competitor, its a board game. Infinity did something weird, no idea really, it just disappeared. Did they make a 3rd edition and fuck it up entirely?
>>98710390Man a self own. Pretty common these days.
Reminder to simply stay on topic and report off topic
>>98710390>since 2014newfags like you don't get an opinion
>>98710390culture war in /v/ is not culture war in /tg//pol/posting in /pol/ is not /pol/posting in /tg/being able to say nigger isn't the same as getting banned for saying nigger
>>98710390Ive been here since 2008 and you’re full of shitBack in the day everyone made sexist, homophobic and racist jokes without fags coming in and trying to defend them
>>98710376>see zero culture war faggotrylol what are you even talking about.I've been on 4chan since 2006 and everybody has been getting into slapfights over the dumbest shit forever. Back in the day /tg/ was fighting over DnD editions and nucrons.
i just shit my pants.Say it again.
>>98710414That's not culture war faggotry that's just normal arguing retard
>>98710379You're genuinely giving me ESL vibes atp>>98710371Name one good story where there are no obvious power gaps ever
>>98710422Do you … do you think we didn’t argue about Obama?
>>98710422>factionaization isn't culture war faggotry hurr durrff hurp de durpShut up idiot.
>>98710401I wanted to finish painting my NL >>98709329 but I'm missing 2 paints and my local store is closed on mondaysnow I'm bored
Kinda crazy that people are off-topic arguing about whether or not 4chan used to have lots of off-topic arguing lolAnyway I like necrons and spikey marines and deldar
>>98710429Not on /tg/ you fucking tourist>>98710433Sorry you don't know what people are referring to when they mention the culture war
>>98710442>goalpost movingSo there was culture war discussion before 2012
>>98710444Ah, you were just shitpostingWho would've thought!
>>98710349>>98710373its not weird for atleast cities with universities to have a sizeable amount of left leaning people in them who are just waiting for the opportunity to lose their shit, after 2010s it became pretty much a givenused to live in one that is basically known all around for its skinhead history and im and old buzz cut guy who looks like one but we still had fun because at flgs everyone left their politics outside and let the dice do the talkingmany times people even became friends and went for a beer when they got to know each other while playing when before outside the store they were about to kill eachother
>>98710446>get proven wrong and called out for goalpost moving>only response is “you’re shitposting”lolLmao evenHey why don’t you try to defend female custodes
>>98710425>Name one good story where there are no obvious power gaps everName one good story where power gaps aren't an excuse for the underdog to win against all odds.That's what it means for anyone to be able to win.The opposite is some hue-monkey mentality where power scales are an excuse for bragging about whose anime daddy would win in a fight.
>>98710425>retard runs on vibes tries to create power scaling >doesn't work No shit.
>>98710452You don't know what goalpost moving isYou didn't know the culture war is the reactionary leftist vs rightwinger faggotry that flooded this site with the 2016 election period screaming about muh trannies and jewsI hate all cuckstodes, I'll never defend any of them, they should've never been added to the game and stayed as a footnote in shitty heresy booksNow go back.
why is it so difficult for you niggers to ignore off topic shitposting, god
>>98710433>thinks edition wars or elves vs dwarves is culture war This post glows.
>>98709329Did you buy your painting handle second hand? Pretty worn for a beginner.
one squad down6 more to go
>>98710459>muh election tourists Nigger everyone in the know knows that this shit started with mocking sjw in like 2011 and shit with Ben Shapiro vidsMy god you’re so fucking dumb
>>98710471You keep outing yourself as the newfag you are
>>98710436What do people even like about deldar
Leman russ more like gayman wuss amiritelads?
>>98710465I started trying to paint an AoS army but I stopped after like 1 20 man squad of dark oats
>>98710417it again.
>>98710471if you were "in the know", you'll know about gamergate or how certain dead jewish pimp and fixer was responsible of weaponizing 4chan in the 2010s.But you're just a dumb and butthurt reddit/twitter refugee
Anyone have experience with GW's support when it's a 3rd party store making the request?Bought a box that has a warped sprue in it and got turned away because I bought from an LGS and not an actual GW store. I'm good friends with the owner and was curious if they'd be able to make the request in my stead, since they actually ordered directly from GW.Anyone have experience with this? Will GW actually give a fuck or will they tell me (in this case the store owner) to kick rocks?
>>98710497i bought a 3D printer after ordering from 3rd party store mail order and was told none of these models you wanted havent been made in over 10 years
>>98710454>Name one good story where power gaps aren't an excuse for the underdog to win against all odds.That's the point I'm making. The existence of clear power scaling is necessary for literary stakes to exist, to make the sacrifices made along the way feel justified and necessary. To keep things 40k, if a grot can 1v1 khorne, now the space marines look like huge idiots for spending hundreds of years training to become stronger.
>>98710496If you were in the know you’d know that the culture war has been going on since the 60s with cultural MarxismAnyways let’s tie this into 40KDo you guys think inquisitors have slap fights like this about what’s best for the imperium.I mean like anonymously arguing with each other over “we should study necron” vs “na fuck I’m” stuff
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>>98710514Wdym "do you think" those fights are one of the most important parts of inquisitor lore. They would have almost nothing interesting about them if not for the radical-puritan split
>>98710497>I'm good friends with the owner and was curious if they'd be able to make the request in my stead, since they actually ordered directly from GW.Usually, yes. Tell him your shit is fucked and he will contact GW to replace it with a new one.
>>98710349Canada and earth so us by proxy.It was just one incident but it was very eye opening.I’d imagine this autistic antic isn’t even that big of one so the real autism antics would be worse.
>>98710522I mean more like anonymously
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>>98710349No one on this site has been outside in 3000 years.
>>98709998I'm not sure that the people conducting the study understand that chart given the categories are a series of increasingly large nesting dolls where each larger category contains all the categories below it.
>>98710523Alright, cool. I'll give it a shot then. Unfortunately that kinda squanders my plans for today, I was gonna build this thing, now I gotta wait until tomorrow when they open.Oh well. At least the sprue isn't all that bad. If GW tells us to piss off then I can greenstuff my way into a workable model.
Instead of voting we should hold a 40K tournament with all the politicians competing1st is president 2nd is VP
>>98709998What don't they understand?
>>98710553Outside isn't real. It can't hurt you.
>>98710514"cultural Marxism" is a meme for retarded americans. Whatever substance it ever had, it died in 80s with hippie boomers becoming cynical and greedy consumers. Anything afterwards is the product of neurotic and self righteous justice warriors, but divorced of the schizo bullshit children like you peddle.>Anyways let’s tie this into 40KSure. The 40k creators were the same. They were obviously left leaning (by 80s standards) but made minis inspired by 2000AD and anti-Thatcher stuff at the same time they showed the White Dwarf happily shaking hands with Ronald Reagan. 2010s chuds like you trying to pretend you own 40k is as laughtable as those fags painting marines in tranny colours. Neither of you belong.
>>98710514>Do you guys think inquisitors have slap fights like this about what’s best for the imperium.That's the entire meat of the Inquisitor game. Yes. They have more than slap fights constantly. Various factions, bureaucratic moves, fashion and politics infect them radical or puritan.
>>98710596Minor spelling mistake so I win btw>>98710549Cool art
>>98710596>guys cultural Marxism isn’t a real issue >now watch as I play both sides while aligning more with one than the otherYou’re transparent nigga
>>98710619but there havent even been /pol/ since 2013 so none if this even mattersnext thing you guise dig up is mgtow and make it into 40k
Repost, but im really proud of my army. I finally finished all of my custodes and managed two tabletop wins!
>>98710619The only sides here are people in the hobby and 40k for the sake of it, and NPC tourists like you trying to make everything about themselves.
>>98709933Believe it or not, but fighting for the survival of your people and culture is a very “right coded” thing so yes there are plenty of people who become attached to the Imperium of Man
>>98710637stay in your discord
Fellow sister players. Why did you specifically choose this army? My reason:>Sisters were the only all metal army left when I bought them
>>98710640tru>>98710641permanent
It's funny the deathwatch kill team didn't have a terminator in there
>>98710646aesthetics are awesome and I like the fact that they are an all female army instead of trans humans
>>98710641permanent means permanent
>>98710647>>98710659Not your decalpedo obsession no matter how much you scream itYou created a discord to try and kill this general, you're not welcome here selfie-spamming whore
>>98710596>Whatever substance it ever had, it died in 80s with hippie boomers becoming cynical and greedy consumersExcept for PC in the 90s.And Feminism in the mid 2010s.And the left adopting CRT talking points in the late 2010s. And the non-binary thing, and drag queen story time (Both from Queer theory btw). Yeah, totally irrelevant.
>>98710646I have always kind of wanted to collect a sisters army but the more I think about my other armies the less likely it seems. Atp it seems more likely that I'll just stick with eldar and marines, because I do like how the sisters look aesthetically I'm not super into any of the stories featuring them and I'm not a huge fan of their type of playstyle on tabletop. Kind of in a similar vein as knights or guard for me, where there are a few models I want because they look cool but the other stuff doesn't really come together for me.All their stuff does look cool as hell though
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98710673>PC>CRTWhy did I think first this was some PC technology answer......
>>98710665is this that decal anon thing i was warned about again
>>98710678Because your brain has not yet fallen to Chaos like mine has.
>>98710675Well if you have firstborn marine Rhino vehicles like Predator, Razorback or Whirlwinds you can always convert them to Sisters vehicles if you ever do decide to start a Sisters army.
>>98710673And none of that, right or wrong, had anything to do with "marxism" or any other similar boogie man for retarded americans.Or with 40k until you assholes began inserting yourselves in this hobby.
Why did gw specifically only fuck up the blood angels? Every other marine subfaction with special models got a sweet range refresh that held true to the original designs, but for some reason they really phoned it in on the blood angels.
